I think this deserves a new thread. Behold - I have come across some rendereings of this new Lynx project we've all been hearing about. The size of the buildings seems to be a little out of scale compared to the rest of the skyline (especially when comparing it to 4 seasons), but who knows, maybe they'll get built that big. Some one please check the city of miami website and see if this project has made any progress with the approvals...

Ok here are the renderings (I hope this works):

Lynx Renderings

OK I guess it didn't work. Some one please help me post these pictures... thanks

do you have them hosted somewhere?

JR, if you don't already have them hosted online somewhere or aren't able to get them on here for whatever reason, you can email them to me at dpaz@bellsouth.net & i'll post 'em for you. i'm real curious to see what you've got.

btw, where'd you find 'em?

http://www.plhb.net/cms/images/article/library/1/tomschaefermiamitom.com.DSC02329.JPG

This is the Miami NAP ... we host there (http://www.plhb.net)

Wow...I can't wait to see them..I'll check back later tonight

::crosses fingers::

so........whos going to put them up,or is there a website?

and i hop this isn't a late april fools joke

jr , this betta not be an april fools joke, if it is, i would ban you cuz its so bad. lol

well if you need hosting, just email em to me wrestlechamp316@bellsouth.net

theyll be up within minutes since i get them.

cant wait, :cheers:

(starts "we want the pics" chant)

lol, I been waiting all day

I'M STARTING TO THINK THIS IS B.S. unless jr corrects me by posting the image i think he's lying. its getting to the point where i think we won't see this project until it goes to sales, because i'm sure that if rx,sfdave,and uptown haven't found it yet none of us are going to see it.

i've gotten to the point that if lynx is so great we can wait for it,after its built its going to last many years so lets just relax chill,sit back and look at the other projects.

ok about time jr,makes me be quiet and post the rendering

OK I've just forwarded the pictures to MIA & Dave. One of these guys will hopefully post them here soon. Sorry to keep everyone in suspense, but believe me, once you see them, it should be worth it. I hope it gets built...

sweet, JR, i just got 'em. have 'em up in a minute.

damn they look nice!

MAJOR thanks to JR79 for these!!! this is what i'm talkin' about!

http://img200.exs.cx/img200/1238/10057sd.jpg

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/1290/10060sa.jpg

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/9933/10072fh.jpg

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/5720/10086uk.jpg

all i can say is WOW. this is exactly what miami needs. height looks about right, too, assuming they'll actually be 746ft. very nice!

JR, you've done a great service to all of us here. we've been trying to find renderings of these for a while now. way to come through, man!

hey jr bro i'm sorry just been very frustrated about looking for these renderings for months.

bro again sorry how'd you find them?

and the second tower is definetly over 800ft,i think the first one is the 700ft

i personally don't like that lack of architecture done on the building its basically a box with glass but hey if its over 800ft i'll be happy.

again thanks jr i'm sorry i doubted you

i wouldn't say there's a lack of architecture as you call it, even though they are boxy. they're fairly simple, not trying to do too much & i think it works. there's some elegance to them. i don't mind boxy if it's done right.

i think these will make a great impression on the skyline if/when built.

yea but they're not going to look much different from 10musuem,ice2 ice, and icon

I like them they look like they have alot of glass.. Be a great addition

thats the shit right there,

JR You are a hero, u got these renderings, great job, this is definetly it, thnx dave for puttin em up quick


the good thing is that in the email it says there sales office is in the 4 seasons office, so thats the next destination when im in brickell.

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/9933/10072fh.jpg

this is the rendering i saw on the white board in that sales center for paramount beach.

great day!!

just imagine this awesome lynx project replaced this crappy old project
http://img5.exs.cx/img5/4367/02043Miacentralis1.png

:cheers:

Wow, S.F.Dave :) , great work done J.R. :) , still there's a puzzle missing here, 1st, has this Lynx Towers project been approved by the City of Miami ???, if so, where are the sales of these condos, and the last is Financing, such a huge bulky project, I just hope its a Go, soon. Remember, time is running out of this great boom. Interest rates going up and the higher the gasoline goes , the higher costs of construction. Always do what Jorge Perez :) says is best," Build Fast, finish Fast ". If this Lynx Tower Project doesn't break ground in the next 2 years, It will just be another tall tower of the past that wasn't built. :cheers:

just to prove that i wasnt b/sing, when i saw the rendering a couple months ago, this is how i rememberd to draw it

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/wrestlechamp316/render.jpg

kinda close lool

Great job Jr and great job remembering Miaballinboi! Now, just image if they do get built, think of the line of skyscrapers for just a sec.. Wachovia, Met 3, BoA, and two Lynx towers... that is going to rock hard!

this is a great pic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/wrestlechamp316/10057sd1.jpg

imagine a couple years, look @ the brickell density now and all the colors

btw, whats that tower that i circled in red, ? maybe theyre also designing this/?

their site is u/c

www.lynx-network.com

That friends is fantastic. Love the height and the pictures are great. I love when they put them in and make them look like they are already there. Nice, hope it gets built.

Wow look at that second picture that Dave posted, and put in Met 1 and 3 (and 2 if you please) and Dupont, and the towers on Biscayne and there will be major density there.

Holy Crap! This will be the city's signature tower if built.

oh my god! wat weve been waiting for for so long

and it was worth the wait... i would give up any project so far for this, no doubt, any three projects put together even, this is a new defining building for miami, and the line it will form will be quite stricking

im still shaking... this is beautiful

way to go, greeeeeeeeeeeeat find!

Chuck's gone from the great optimist to the group downer. I think he needs another vacation.

Those renderings are awesome. The towers really soar, which is something Miami towers lack right now. Love how they have the garage backed up against the highway and a great street presentation.

this is a hell of a project. the ground level looks quite interesting.

I will be in amazement for a few weeks..lol


thankfully I don't have any important tests coming up, because there's no way I'd be able to concentrate


this is such a Glorious building....the chills are taking over my body!!

Thanks a billion JR

WOW! I love the design, the height....I Love everything about it!

Let's hope this project gets built.

The density in the CBD will be amazing. :soon:

very nice. congrats to the people of Miami. :banana2:

did anyone say if this was a residential or office tower? i coulnd't tell if those were balconies (in which case it is definitely residential).

also, i particularly love the way the buildings blend nicely with the existing commercial tower next door.

sweet, hope it goes down
for some reason that building reminds me of the bank of china tower in hong kong. I think it's mainly because of the scheme close to street level. Hawt.
Who is the developer? and is it residential or commercial? I think residential/condo office mix would be the best way to get this project going. It's too early to get excited however since there's no official word on this building.

^ Though still in the approval stages, we've known about this one for months.

Awesome addition to the CBD: simple design that is great in terms of size, both in length and thickness, contributing to an already impressive skyline and to the developing downtown density.

Good God. You know, some Miami developers were smoking crack when they were designing that preliminary rendering of Lynx in the above pix, with painted stucco. What the hell is it with Florida developers?

Lynx: I like it alot. And if it looks like Chad Oppenheim's other towers... so what. Those are the best looking towers not only in Miami, but most anywhere else too.

Didn't someone post a newspaper clipping of the I.M. Pei buildings in that same location 2 or 3 months ago? Is that what these are? Are they designed by I.M. Pei?

Miaballinboi, I think that bldg. circled is Brickell on River--at least its in the same vicinity where BOR is supposed to be in that photo--except, I can make out any details on the building's edges that BOR has.

LYNX. How tall are we talking here: upper 600's for the shorter tower and upper 700's for the taller tower?

Lynx: we need to get a height estimate on this one. Good project. It will create a nice scraper corridor like this: Lynx 1, Lynx 2, BOA, Met 3, Wachovia, etc...

this kind of project will really transform Miami's CBD from one that is big merely in terms of real estate blockage, to one that is just plain big.

Metromover: Imagine taking Metromover to the BOA station now-- they'll probably change it to connect also to Lynx. It will be really cool. priceless.

jz, the city's spreadsheet that tracks all the projects lists lynx at 746ft. that's gotta be the height of the taller tower so you can assume the shorter is gonna be 50-100ft. shorter.

the project is being designed by a joint partnership of both chad oppenheim & the pei sons, who are actually the sons of I.M. Pei. not a bad combination & i think this design shows that.

let's hope they team up for more projects down here.

Miaballinboi, I think that bldg. circled is Brickell on River--at least its in the same vicinity where BOR is supposed to be in that photo--Definitely not BoTR...could be 500 Brickell...but I'll bet you it is a proposal for 600 Brickell which is a little existing building that doesn't utilize it's footprint efficiently. Since Arqutectonica has already designed 500 Brickell, I can't imagine why the Lynx group would put that building in there (afterall, they left out BoTR).

hmm, i didn't think about 600 brickell. i just thought it was something that the renderer was trying to hide for whatever reason. you know, like when they add trees or grass to open lots to make them look prettier than they actually are. it's hard to tell exactly where that tower is but it could be BotR. maybe they didn't want an U/C project in there? who knows.

developer propaganda. how do I get to the city of miami spreadsheets? Or are those the heights already posted on those updated master lists on a diff. thread?

Oppenheim and Pei. what a combination. I agree-- I hope they do more projects-- i like their vision of development-- I can't explain it-- but its so international-retro-futuristic. Unique. THe Lynx rendering is now my wallpaper.

EXCLUSIVE REPORTS
From the October 22, 2004 print edition
Top global architects planning Miami projects
Susan Stabley

Two of the biggest names in architecture are crafting new creations in Miami-Dade County: World-renowned architect Richard Meier of New York and the sons of I.M. Pei are designing works for Lynx Strategic Development, the new sister company to Rodrigo NiÒo's Prodigy International Development Sales.

Both Meier and the Pei sons would be working with local architects - Kobi Karp and Chad Oppenheim, respectively. The projects are in downtown Miami and Surfside.

NiÒo said both properties may get flipped or a
developer will be brought in to handle the responsibility - and the risk - of construction, from getting the general contractor to securing the financing.

NiÒo and partner Ian Ludmir have a $22 million contract on a parking lot parcel next to the colorfully lit Bank of America Tower at International Place, formerly known as the CenTrust Tower and designed by I.M. Pei.

Now the sons of the famed Chinese architect have designed a $300 million, mixed-use building for Lynx that has a pair of towers rising from a multi-level platform at South Miami Avenue and Southeast Second Street. Each tower boasts three facades and the unnamed project would house a blend of offices, retail, residences and hotel units under the preliminary designs by Pei Partnership Architects.

"We want very much to contribute something of enduring value," said L.C. (Sandy) Pei, principal of New York City-based Pei Partnership with brother C.C. (Didi) Pei. "We are looking forward to developing with Chad Oppenheim on something that hasn't been done before."

Pei had worked on the former CenTrust building with his father and said the new project is designed as a "city within a city" that respects the iconic tower next door.

"It's intended to be a fragmented composition, sort of an arrangement of buildings that orient themselves to some of the principal views of the city," he said.

The downtown project promises to be a "very high-impact, high-design project with a lot of glass, sort of a signature style fused with a little Pei," Oppenheim said. It could have up to 450 condos, 200 hotel rooms and another 200 condo-hotel units, plus about 80,000 square feet of office space, he said.

Oppenheim noted that one of the reasons he went into architecture was the work of I.M. Pei.

"It's definitely fantastic for me to be considered at that level and work with his sons on an equal basis," he said.
Replacing the Beach House Hotel

Meanwhile, a $170 million, 12-story condominium by Richard Meier & Partners could replace the Beach House Hotel in Surfside formerly owned by the Rubell family. Meier has been recognized with the Pritzker Architecture Prize, one of his industry's highest honors, and his finalist designs for the World Trade Center site. This would be his first project in Miami.

"We look at this as a great honor," Karp said. "It creates an opportunity to bring Miami even further into the international forefront of architecture and design."

The concept for the Beach House is "clean, sleek and modern," Karp said.

NiÒo and Ludmir are heading a group of investors from Chile, Venezuela and Colombia in a venture called Beach House Property that bought the hotel on Collins Avenue in August for $26.45 million. The Rubell family still operates the hotel and plans to tear down the property are a year away.
Life after Fortune International

Both projects are the brainchild of NiÒo, Ludmir and Senior VP Jorge Brugo, who is credited with bringing in Meier and the Pei sons. All three had previously worked for Fortune International in Miami. NiÒo said that Brugo was tapped as a Lynx partner this week.

It was just over a year ago that NiÒo left his job as VP of development sales at Fortune International and started his own third-party sales organization.

"It was just me with my laptop that I bought at Best Buy with my personal credit card," he said. Quickly, NiÒo had his first client - one from his former Fortune life - Brickell on the River. Then came Spiaggia in Surfside, SolÈ on the Ocean in Sunny Isles Beach and Solaris in the Brickell area. Recent projects include Paramount Park on Biscayne Boulevard and the Racquet Club & Marina in North Bay Village, plus redevelopments of South Beach's Roney Palace and Aventura's Bay Club.

Today, he handles a real estate inventory worth $1.5 billion. Prodigy has grown to 32 employees and serves a network of more than 40,000 brokers.

"This surpassed my wildest dreams," NiÒo said.

NiÒo believes third-party sales organizations shouldn't get deeply involved in development.

"Maybe I'm a pre-developer," he said. "No, no, I'm just a landlord."

E-mail Miami-Dade real estate/international business writer Susan Stabley at sjstabley@bizjournals.com.

JZ the spreadsheet is at http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Planning/pages/land_development/LargeScaleDev.asp
Guys there is also no Met, or Dupont, now of course they arent done, or even under construction yet, but I would like to have seen the pics with them in it. Probably didnt want to add because then the height wouldnt be as impressive

U know, being a heterosexual man i usually don't say the phrase i am about to say but: OH MY GOD.

am i supposed to download the large scale development report? I can't seem to do it b/c windows dnk which program created it.

Actually it just opens for me and then when Im done it closes it without saving it.

jz , u download it, its excel, if you dont have excel then get one of those free excel file viewers, if u need help i can email you a program to view excel.


anyways that building might be 600 brickell, maybe its a future lynx project?

wait up guys not so fast,i was reading the article which was speaking of the project from a couple of months ago and noticed one paragraph which i didn't like it went like this and quote"

"Niño said both properties may get flipped or a developer will be brought in to handle the responsibility - and the risk - of construction, from getting the general contractor to securing the financing. "

meaning that unless a developer comes in and handles the project it won't happen,this could be the same situation as the flatiron building.

whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jr you da man!!!

these buildings are hottt and look alot taller than 746ft,that building in the rendering is probably bor....i guess since 600brickell is a little further down.

and i thought lynx was the developer

yeah, that's always a possibility & is a little scary. i'm hoping that the fact they've already submitted preliminary plans with the city & are seeking a MUSP, plus the fact that they've spent some cash to have nice renderings done, means that they've decided to go ahead & develop the land. i don't know the process that well & am not sure how common it is for a developer to go to the trouble of seeking approval from the city to build something & then scrapping their plans to sell the land. i assume there's fees associated with filing those plans, but maybe they're not significant enough to stop someone from selling off land at that point if it's more profitable.

and i thought lynx was the developer

yeah, that's the other thing. isn't lynx the developer of this?

well usually only the exterior architecture is done,leaving it up to a developer to decide what uses he wants for the tower,i really doubt a project without a developer would go throught some much trouble as to go to hepb,udrb, and start musp application without having a developer ready to have the project developed.

although i've never seen it happen it is possible since the MUSP gives you 2 years to file construction papers,meaning that if they get approval they'll have 2 years to find someone to do the project

this is just me speaking as an "if" lynx and prodigy are looking for an independent developer.

That's what I have believed to be true.
The truth is that developers do hired architects to do conceptual renderings without having to shell out too much for the really expensive and labor intensive engineering drawings.
It's really not that expensive to come up with the conceptuals and then 3d model a rendering. That Lynx sure looks good though...I'm not sure that anyone is really clammering for new office space and there is a lot of condo supply that is on the water in that area...It would be great to see it happen if it would make sense.

Well now that the cat is out of the bag on Lynx, any news on the SMA twins? If so, I guess post a new thread for those bldgs as well...

Thanx for the advice on that excel file. I'll try it.

also another thing that rung a bell was that the article said the project was only 300million which i find to be b.s. this project is atleast 900million.the glass and foundation work will probably cost 100million by itself.this project is pretty much 6 400+ft towers,which will probably cost about an average of 100million each plus the garage and other expenses.i'm interested to see a site plan for this and also to see how much squarefeet will these towers have...
http://img97.exs.cx/img97/9933/10072fh.jpg
furthermore if you notice closely and study oppenheim's and pei's designs you can tell who designed each tower,all towers and garage with the cross diagonal X bracing windows and akward shaped were designed by the pei's while the boxy clear glass towers were designed by oppenheim.usually when you have a team designed structure you really can't tell which did what but since this is 8towers it seems 'as if' pei and oppenheim just divided the work load.and the pei's mostly handle floor plans

in conclusion i'm surprised that there only going to be 650condo and 200 hotel it looks like if they're were alot more

http://www.plhb.net/cms/images/article/library/1/tomschaefermiamitom.com.DSC02329.JPG

This is the Miami NAP ... we host there (http://www.plhb.net)

what exactly is this place?

what exactly is this place?

that is the NAP of the Americas building.

now, for an outside-the-thread-topic little lesson:
this is the point through which most of the internet traffic from South and Central American countries travels through. there is only a few "network access points" like it in the US. most if not all major carriers make business with this NAP. in terms of internet traffic and high-tech, this is a really important structure a lot of people don't know about. think of it as a Capitol Building for the internet capital of the south eastern United States.

score... well arent we in miami technologically important

I hate to say "I told you so", but I think I can safely say I TOLD YOU SO! Well, I'm just as excited about this project as everyone else is here. I've had these renderings for a few weeks but I just didn't have the time to post them here for everyone to see, and when I finally said to myself 'OK tonight I'm posting it, no matter what', then I tried to do it, but couldn't figure it out. Thanks to Dave for posting them for me... And to answer the question of where I got them from, I had seen them laying around the office at work last month, then I tracked down who had them and had that person forward them to me.

By the way, like I had pointed out before, on that panoramic picture of the skyline which shows the 4 seasons tower, the lynx towers seem a little too big to be real, especially when you compare them to the 4 seasons. They make the 4 seasons tower look pitiful. I hope the Lynx towers really look that big if and when they get built.

^ditto,

jr anyway, are you a real estate guy, or whats your job? j/w

thnx again

anyways that NAP fact was interesting

JR79 -

With respect to LYNX, are you in the 'optimist' camp, or the 'pessimist' camp. The former holds that the fact that LYNX has gotten this far in the process is a strong sign that it will be built. The latter holds that Prodigy spent a modest sum to throw something against the wall to attract a developer.

MIA- I work for Bovis, the person who had the renderings was the business development manager... his job is basically to make contact with any new clients/developers and try to develop a relationship between the developer/cleint and bovis that can lead to a construction contract for bovis and thus further develop new business for bovis. All of the big construction companies have someone dedicated to business development...

Dave- I would describe myself as a cautious optomistic, in that I'm hoping that all of these new projects get built, but at the same time knowing all of the different factors that can easily stop a project from happening. The fact that this Lynx project has at least started the permitting/approval process with the city is a good sign to me, but as we all know, that is only one of many steps toward making the project happen. We don't know anything about sales figures, which is just as important as whether it gets approval...

JR79 -

So, since there is a measure of uncertainty with any announced project, are you saying you're not especially concerned by comments in the article, that have worried other forumers, that the project might be 'flipped' and a developer sought ?

Didn't someone post a newspaper clipping of the I.M. Pei buildings in that same location 2 or 3 months ago? Is that what these are? Are they designed by I.M. Pei?

Yes, I posted a very raw design a few months ago. It looked like some computer modeling drawings.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v506/miami17/BOA20im20Pei20new20towers20design.jpg

Just because nobody else has yet I don't think.

Here's the specs according to the city's development report:

Lynx Downtown
16 SE 2 Street; 60 SE 2 Street; 41 SE 3 Street; 61 SE 3 Street
Mixed Use: Residential, Retail, Office, Hotel & Vertical Sports Club (8 buildings)
540 condo units
362 hotel units
114,700 sq ft office
32,280 retail
1,400 parking spaces
746 ft, 76 stories
status: preliminary

will it be taller than the Met 3?

I guess the days of the iconic BOA tower are over. It will be sandwhiched between Lynx and Met3. I wonder if it will have to stop being lit up since it will next door to people's bedrooms on both sides?

I've been wondering the same thing. Maybe tone it down a bit at least. What about the concerts at Bayside?

In theory that should all be part of "living in the city", but you know how people get.

Is that tall tower 746' like the report states, or will it be taller, like the metamorphasis that Met 3 undertook this past year?

I guess the days of the iconic BOA tower are over. It will be sandwhiched between Lynx and Met3. I wonder if it will have to stop being lit up since it will next door to people's bedrooms on both sides?
I don't see much of an issue with lighting... The Espírito Santo has condos and it's illuminated. So are a couple of other towers in the area.

As far as losing an icon, I don't think it will lose its iconic status, and here's why: Miami skyline shots are usually oriented to the southwest rather than perpendicular to the bayfront, so that allows the Bank of America Tower to be seen despite the fact that it's directly behind Wachovia... It may not stand out as much, but it will still be impressive.

The only issue I see with the lighting may be its visibility from the northwest corner of the building -- the light fixtures that illuminate the non-recessed side are actually mounted on the Metromover tracks and on the roof of a building on SE 2nd Street. Those fixtures would have to be relocated if this tower gets built. On the side with the setbacks, I don't think it will be affected, as the lighting points toward the building rather than away from it.

now we all just need to look out for when the sales begin?...then we could have more assurance that it will be built!!

With respect to LYNX, are you in the 'optimist' camp, or the 'pessimist' camp. The former holds that the fact that LYNX has gotten this far in the process is a strong sign that it will be built. The latter holds that Prodigy spent a modest sum to throw something against the wall to attract a developer.It's important to note that a rendering is not even close to far in the process: Prodigy is a sales and marketing company, not a developer; similar to International Sales Group, Related Cervera Realty Services, or Fortune Development Sales (a division of Fortune International, which also has a Development Division, Fortune International Realty ((general realty)), Construction Division amongst others).
Prodigy would not likely have shelled out a dime for any renderings...but the property owner may well have.
The process might look like this. Very rough, and not comprehensive, but hopefully valuable.

Buyer/s have an idea for what to develop on a piece of land
They put a contract on the piece of land to close sometime in the near future
they talk to the zoning/planning/municipal gov't
they ask an architect (or two or three) to help out with HABU (highest and best use)
they have a conceptual drawing or two drawn up
they consult a sales and marketing firm (Fortune Development Sales, RCRS, Prodigy) to see what the market wants and what it will pay
they consult a construction firm like Bovis or a division like Fortune International Construction, to check materials pricing, and feasibility
If the stars align....they may start to raise private equity and line up bankers and construction companies
If stars don't align...no go. They don't close on the land...or they close on the purchase of the land then sit on the land for a while. (Millenium Partner's Tennis Courts....Hank Sopher's parking lots...)until the time is right.

Hope this sheds a little light on some of the moving parts to the process...you can imagine why renderings that leak out are often times not what the final product looks like.
Also...that above list isn't in order, most things occur at the same time, and very often, developers will pre sell to insiders well before any floor plan or rendering is ever released to the public, and sometimes even before the size/floorplans/architect/construction company is determined 100%.

^^right roark,but i'm still trying to figure out whose lynx just a landowner or the developer who bought the rights to the project

now we all just need to look out for when the sales begin?...then we could have more assurance that it will be built!!Yeah....you're right. It is closer to a go with a project of this size, it is safe to say that when they begin sales to the general public. Remember that Ice opened to the public about 2 years ago, have had several nice parties, and several dozen Ocean Drive Magazine ads with beautiful leggy models. By the time those are a go...those models will have finished their dating photographers stage and will have moved on to the marrying skyscaper forum guys stage :)

^that's what i wanted to know, roark. thanks for explaining that.

now, having said all that, do you have a feeling one way or another about the chances of this project being built? something i just thought about that *could* be a good sign is that someone here recently posted a link to a broker's site that had a 'coming soon' page for lynx. now maybe they're just testing the waters to see what kind of response they'll get but i gotta think that's a positive sign. maybe a very weak & flimsy positive sign but a positive sign nonetheless.

By the time those are a go...those models will have finished their dating photographers stage and will have moved on to the marrying skyscaper forum guys stage :)

bwahahahaha! & i thought i was an optimist!

seriously, though, i call first dibs. :naughty:

Wow!! This is awesome!! I know I had a feeling I should of checked up on the forum for any news.. This is great. I guess you can rank me with the pessimist. I don't think that they have secured a developer yet, but I don't believe they will have much trouble finding one especially not after kick-ass renderings like that... And the applications filed is also a good sign.

J.R. :) , you said you work for BOVIS Construction Company, a great company, let us know when are they going to start on the Mary Brickell Village Condo tower on the top of that parking garage?, thanks :cheers:

bovis isn't doing skyline mary brickell village,

skyline is an entirely different project from mary brickell village the only thing is that skyline will go on top of it.but its being developed by skyline properties while mbv is by constructa.

and its not gonna b on top of the parking garage, its gonna b rite behind it... theres a big gap between the back of the parking garage and the street rite now... that will be filled in soon enough

and its not gonna b on top of the parking garage, its gonna b rite behind it... theres a big gap between the back of the parking garage and the street rite now... that will be filled in soon enough
Nimby :) , remember there's two different level's of garage's, the lowest one in the back , next to the street is the foundation on the garage that's already there, lol.The Skyline Tower just has to go vertical and be completed in 18 months. :cheers:
P.S. my mistake on the Bovis building the project, its Construta, lol. Strike 1 :cheers:

Chuck,

Bovis Lend Lease (not construction company), has some work going on at the Mary Brickell Village project. This is one of our projects, now beyond that, I don't know too many specifics about it. Who's Constructa? Are they another GC/CM?

By the way, I saw the Lynx renderings on skyscraperpager.com, and all I can say is I hope they really get built that high... they look awesome compared to Met3 and Wachovia...But my cautiously optimistic approach to this project doesn't let me get too excited until I hear about some more progress being made. In the meantime, I'm waiting to hear what happens on April 20th, when they go for their MUSP at the city.

http://img7.echo.cx/img7/8348/cbd016aa.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Nice diagram...really helps in imagining it!!


hey Rx do you mind telling us what's between BOA and met 3?...Pleeese:)

Street that is probably Met 2, skyscraper has it as something like 72 stories and almost as tall at Met 3.

CURRENTLY THERE IS A HOTEL ON THAT SITE BUT IT WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND THE SITE WILL BE REDEVELOPED AS A ONE TOWER COMPLEX WITH COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE.

THIS JUST IN I WAS SPEAKING WITH A FRIEND TODAY WHO IS CONNECTED AND WORD IS THAT THE SITE ON 3RD AND BISCAYNE ACROSS FROM THE COLLEGE WILL HAS UNLIMITED FAR AND THAT THERE IS A 100FL TOWER DESIGNED FOR THAT SITE WHICH SHOULD BE MAKING AN APPEARANCE REALLY SOON. IT WILL BE MIXED USE OFFICE/RESIDENTIAL AND SURPASS 1000K FT.

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THAT SITE WAS TO HOUSE THREE TOWERS THEN LAST INFO WAS THAT IT WOULD HOUSE TWO TOWERS NOW IT SEEMS TO BE DOWN TO ONE HUGE TOWER.

NOT SURE WHY 100 FLOORS STUDIES SHOW THAT PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH NO MORE THEN 80 FLOORS IN A TOWER ANYTHING AFTER THAT SEEMS TO AFFECT PEOPLE ESPECIALLY AFTER SEPTEMBER 11TH

CURRENTLY THERE IS A HOTEL ON THAT SITE BUT IT WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND THE SITE WILL BE REDEVELOPED AS A ONE TOWER COMPLEX WITH COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE.

THIS JUST IN I WAS SPEAKING WITH A FRIEND TODAY WHO IS CONNECTED AND WORD IS THAT THE SITE ON 3RD AND BISCAYNE ACROSS FROM THE COLLEGE WILL HAS UNLIMITED FAR AND THAT THERE IS A 100FL TOWER DESIGNED FOR THAT SITE WHICH SHOULD BE MAKING AN APPEARANCE REALLY SOON. IT WILL BE MIXED USE OFFICE/RESIDENTIAL AND SURPASS 1000K FT.

On the 330 Biscayne site?

interesting. any idea how long 'really soon' is, rx?

as far as the 270 meter height for lynx, i think that's bs. the original poster on ssp said it would be that height & that;s the only place i've ever seen that height mentioned. i'm sure the person who drew that diagram saw that height & assumed it was correct.

unitl i see it somewhere more credible i'm gonna trust the 746ft. height the city listed in it's excel file.

You know, Rx, if this 1000 footer doesnt turn up, we'll be really heart broken. So how credible is your friend???

well dont go commiting suicide by jumping off the top of any 74 storie towers any time soon cause you might just miss the big one.

lets just say that the design alone will impress you and then the hieght will leave you breathless. or vice versa next time i talk to him i will ask him what the guesstimate time is till they release any news on the tower?

i just hope it's not too thin because i saw the site in a satellite image, and it seems quite small. But i'll take your word for it. Don't remember you being wrong any recent time.

100fls thats crazy,i believe you rx but 100fls they're aren't many developers who have the financials to build or have the money to pay an architect to design a 100fl building.

isn't 3rd right by evgd,anyways the 300biscayne project has been redesigned more times then i have fingers.

I hope that 100 story bldg happens...

You know, that's all it takes: a 100 story bldg kind of completes the puzzle of a city's skyline-- and then all the other bldgs seem to have purpose- not just a scattered assortment of bldgs with no rhyme or reason.

This was the last I heard of 330 Biscayne:

http://www.kobikarp.com/article22.html

Wow, RX Great News!! Can't Wait!!

Mike19 The Lynx Site is Smaller by Comparison and the 330 site is about the same as everglades site i am not sure if they ended up buying the hotel if they did then the tower will indeed be massive and perhaps we will see two towers instead.

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ok so right next to boa is going to be a hotel,isn't that the james l.knight center

You know, that's all it takes: a 100 story bldg kind of completes the puzzle of a city's skyline-- and then all the other bldgs seem to have purpose- not just a scattered assortment of bldgs with no rhyme or reason.

that's a great point, jz. a supertall would really legitimize the the skyline, the buildings...really just bring everything together. & there's still plenty of land in the cbd or parkwest or even on biscayne to put one. it's just a matter of time.

& if rx's news holds true that time may come sooner rather than later. :carrot:

And didn't we hear that the city recently sold the James L. Knight center ?

This is getting very interesting.

CURRENTLY THERE IS A HOTEL ON THAT SITE BUT IT WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND THE SITE WILL BE REDEVELOPED AS A ONE TOWER COMPLEX WITH COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE.

are you talking about the marriott that's between met 3 & BofA? i hadn't heard that it was set to be demolished & redeveloped, although i'm not surprised cause it's prime real estate. do you know when this is supposed to happen or who's building the new tower?

i thought that was james l.knight

[QUOTE=Rx727sfl2002]Mike19 The Lynx Site is Smaller by Comparison and the 330 site is about the same as everglades site i am not sure if they ended up buying the hotel if they did then the tower will indeed be massive and perhaps we will see two towers instead.

ok last couple of questions. (in reference to ur 330 statement) I didn't quite understand wut u are saying here. Are u saying that they haven't decided the site for this supertall? i thought they were putting the supertall in the hotel site, now they're doing two? and now for the piece de resistance you said that i will be floored by the height/design, and im sure i will, but can we infer that u have seen the height/design.

the knight center is just south of there along the river.

[QUOTE=Rx727sfl2002]Mike19 The Lynx Site is Smaller by Comparison and the 330 site is about the same as everglades site i am not sure if they ended up buying the hotel if they did then the tower will indeed be massive and perhaps we will see two towers instead.

ok last couple of questions. (in reference to ur 330 statement) I didn't quite understand wut u are saying here. Are u saying that they haven't decided the site for this supertall? i thought they were putting the supertall in the hotel site, now they're doing two? and now for the piece de resistance you said that i will be floored by the height/design, and im sure i will, but can we infer that u have seen the height/design.


he's talking about 2 seperate sites,the 1000ft is 330biscayne which was suppose to be 2 659ft buildings. and the second is a hotel development in front of boa.

and rx have you seen this design?

wow....this is just too much to digest :nuts: :dizzy: :)

the hotel which is next to met 3 and boa is still going to be running for atleast another 5 years there is alot of talk and plans on the board of what kind of tower can go on that site but most likely nothing over 1000k feet unless they add a spire. this porject we will have to wait it out and see what developes.

the 330 biscayne site will come into the scene sometime this summer early fall but before years out we will have renderings and sales starting all depends on the city zoning board hearings. other then that as soon as im allowed to post something i will and if by any chance i can privately show the renderings to a select few on here that can hold water then i will...

miaballinboi, roark, streetscaper, and

perhaps dale eventhough he voted for bush. :bash:

^oh i see how it is rx,i'm not to be trusted

theres a few of you on here that have started posting in the miami thread i am not sure whom you are since now we are seeing alot of contributors to this post. if i get the go ahead to post it on the tread i will do so otherwise when the time comes i will have to use discretion as to who views the rendering and perhaps miaballinboi can draw up one of his lovely sketches for all others to view in the mean time.

so do you have the rendering now or seen it yet? or do you just know it's coming soon?

[QUOTE=JR79]Chuck,

Bovis Lend Lease (not construction company), has some work going on at the Mary Brickell Village project. This is one of our projects, now beyond that, I don't know too many specifics about it. Who's Constructa? Are they another GC/CM?
JR :) , I was by there today , tuesday, april, 12th, and there's BOVIS signs at every corner of the mary brickell village project, In Fact, the picture of the completed mary brickell village in front has Bovis at both ends of the billboard bordering miami ave., I also notice something else, the Parking garage in the back is starting a wall in the back of the village, could this be the 35 floor condo skyline mary brickell condos starting vertical in the back ??? :cheers:

:) you will be a savior if this is all true, lets hope they go for the gold, 1000 baby, thnx for trusting me,

i would be more than happy to do one of my professional renderings :cheers: lol,

you are a great contributor to the forum. since day 1,


looks like miami bounced back with these new tall towers,

met3, which at 866 feet might be only #3 or #4 tallest in miami,
the lynx site, hopefully 800 footers, and taller than met3,

sma towers at brickell, hopefully another height increase to strengthen brickell passed 805 feet,

its about time for the new city report, a couple days away..

I don't think I can wait. :bash: :eek2:

Ok I am confused, I keep seeing "sma", can someone further explain? I feel left out everytime you guys mention this site. Where is it going to be and how tall? As for creating a rendering of 300 Biscayne, you can PM me and I will make a nice sketched drawing.

havok, the sma tower is listed in the excel file on the city's planning department website (http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Planning/pages/land_development/LargeScaleDev.asp). it's listed as being 2 mixed-use towers at 64 stories & 805ft.

click on the excel file at the bottom of the above link.

havok, the sma tower is listed in the excel file on the city's planning department website (http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Planning/pages/land_development/LargeScaleDev.asp). it's listed as being 2 mixed-use towers at 64 stories & 805ft.

click on the excel file at the bottom of the above link.

Thanks

it's interesting to see how these buildings seem to be being set up in an axial pattern. the supposed 1000 footer will be a little ways north...i wonder if that will look balanced or not. from what i've seen miami has had a tendency of throwing up tall buildings in weird, not-so-pleasing locations. am i the only one that disliked where the four seasons ended up? i think it looks kind of out of place.

anyway, i wish i could see how this would look from all directions so i could digest it. right now a 1000 footer sounds nice, but it might be an eyesore if not set in the right place.

it will have two 750 towers next door and a few 650 ft towers and then a few 500-550 towers to the south of it and then a few 600-800 ft towers a few blocks away so its dead center of downtown miami.

four seasons works out great in its location only thing sucks is the 30 storie towers they have built around it those need to go eventually. but it will have a few (6) Neigbors around its same height in the next 4 years so its looking good....

it will all balance itself out

A few points:

Four Seasons: The location is perfect b/c it expands the tallness of the skyline further south on brickell from the Wachovia, in the same fashion that the Hancock in Chicago was over a mile from the Loop, and how the WTC and Empire State were so far apart, and how Midtown Atlanta, the BOA, and the CBD are spread apart. Now, the breadth of Miami's skyline is huge, especially with the advent of Blue and the other uprown projects, and the PAC skyscrapers. Its a beautiful thing.

RX: how did you take a still shot of the Google satellite image? I right clicked the mouse but it doesn't do it.

But yes, the Four Seasons was out of place at first b/c it is world class and there was nothing but crap there before it was built. Now, it set a new standard. Just look at the new park Place office proposal...

SMA: any renderings? anyone?

jz... while lukin at the google map just take a screen shot

and i agree, the location of four seasons is absolutely perfect, expanding the skyline substantially, which the new biscayne buildings, pac area, and upto to blue will do the same

ditto & thanx :)

Uh... how do you do a screenshot? I use mozilla firefox as a browser...

one ur keyboard, where ur arrow keys are, on the top there is a button that says prntscrn/ sys rq... press that and that will automatically put a screen shot on ur clipboard, i usually then just paste it into paint

i use a program named snagit to capture video and screen shots

Damn! I was out of town for 10 days and there's talks of a 1000 ft tower in the cbd

Nice design and very tall. Hopefully the FAA doesn't have a say on this one.

Do you mind if I ask where did you go?

Atlanta.

Media Mogul Gustavo Cisneros Introduces Pritzker Prize Winning Architect Richard Meier´s First Residential Development in Miami, ´Beach House´
MIAMI, Apr. 21 /PRNewswire/ --

MIAMI, April 21 /PRNewswire/ -- Richard Meier presented his first residential project in Miami, Beach House, to seventy of the America's most prominent business, political and media leaders. He was introduced at the Four Seasons Hotel in Miami, by media mogul Gustavo Cisneros, as he made his debut in the South Florida marketplace.

(Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20050421/NYTH141 )

Beach House is an oceanfront property that boasts an unparalleled 200 plus linear feet of beach front, with unobstructed, sweeping views of the ocean and of a private landscaped beach garden of lush palm groves and tropical plants. The glass building will contain 101 residences with 1, 2, 3 and 4 bedroom configurations with smart home technology including wireless access and an integrated control system for home appliances and electronics.

Each residence at the Beach House is designed to feel like a penthouse with floor to ceiling custom glass windows and generous terraces offering panoramic views. A full array of luxury amenities will be offered, including two pools, (an Ocean Pool and a rooftop Sky Pool), a private Beach Club with cabanas and lounging areas, a state-of-the-art Health Club, a Wine and Cigar Lounge, and a Spa with sauna, steam and treatment rooms.

When asked his opinion on how Beach House will inspire future architecture in Miami, Richard Meier offered the following, "Beach House will undoubtedly influence the new architecture which is being planned along the city's oceanfront. The glass walls create an open interior space filled with natural light. The transparency of the oceanfront complex transcends spatial boundaries."

The Developers, Jorge Brugo and Ian Ludmir, from Lynx Strategic Development, a Miami-based Real Estate Development Company, sought out Meier to be the Architect for this project as his work exemplifies their core business strategy, innovation and quality.

Prodigy International Development Sales is a fully integrated real estate company devoted to represent third party developers as the exclusive agent for the sales and marketing of residential condominium projects, such as Beach House. Prodigy President, Rodrigo Nino said, "The Beach House, Richard Meier's first project in Miami, will raise the bar in the South Florida real estate market. Prodigy is privileged to represent such a prestigious development."

Photo: NewsCom: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20050421/NYTH141

Hell yeah!! Developers are finally using star architects to give their projects that extra appeal.

LYNX DEVELOPMENT'S WEBSITE IS FINALLY UP!! IT'S OKAY.
www.lynx-network.com

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT STAGE THIS PROJECT IS IN?

I CAN'T WAIT!!

ok so do we have any new news on lynx.......i hope this wasn't another ice

i really don't think that strategic would spend the amount of money it spent on hiring architects and doing renderings and getting this building approved if it wasn't going to build it...i'm guessing they already spend in excess of $100,000 just getting it approved.....but with that said majestic did the same with ice,aria,and ice 2.

LYNX DEVELOPMENT'S WEBSITE IS FINALLY UP!! IT'S OKAY.
www.lynx-network.com

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT STAGE THIS PROJECT IS IN?

I CAN'T WAIT!!
TRUE, L.D. GATOR :) , this LYNX three tower Project is so real now :applause: , it may break ground in January, 2007 :hm: , I hope sooner, but this Project is Huge,
The Website here is updated now, and the three towers look great fronting S.W. 2nd Street with the west tower as Residential with the residents looking at the fatastic sunsets to the open west. the east tower will be all Commercial, Yes I said an office tower !!! :cool: :cheers2: , and the other tower seems to be undecided, But, with a parking garage bottom and next to the metromover , I see now why they call it " A City within a City ". :cheers:

MAD Uptown Hatter, this website is Updated, check it out., it has two openings, check out both downloads at the site. :cheers:

P.S. Remember , the west tallest tower is the Condo Tower.What a beauty,should be completed by 2011 all three towers.