The last poll in the UK Skybar on this was done in February, so I think with the election now less than a month away it's time to refresh the poll!

I've kept it to the three major parties for simplicity, but if you're thinking of voting for a different party (you may be in Northern Ireland for example), say so.

Ann Winterton is my MP and despite have a terrible press, she has been a good consituency MP and votes on alot of things the way I would, so I am voting Conservative.

If I were British, prob vote Labour.

Labour.

None I have never voted and never will they are all as bad as one another!

None I have never voted and never will they are all as bad as one another!

That's the spirit! Sod democracy and freedom, it's a waste of time :no:

If you don't like anybody you could start your own party with much better ideas.

I don't understand people who don't bother and say 'all as bad as each other'... because its that piss easy running a country like the UK is it??!

Frankly, Labour have made mistakes.. but it happens, overall however, they have done wonders and are continuing to do so. They really help people, everyone I know (no matter what age, background or situation) is treated well by labour and are much better off than back when it was Conservatives in power.

Today on PMQ's.. All Howard did was act childish, along with all his people...
Making accusations like 'Labour will lock away our nations teachers' to then shout about how Labour don't lock enough people away! Really grated me cheese that did.

So yes, Labour..

Lib Dem or Green, I'd rather vote for the Old Liberal Party but they don't field candidates in my constituency - they seem to only have candidates in the most obscure part of the country.

I'm voting Greens, but I expect Labour to win - and I don't have a problem with that.

I'm not that convinced by any of the big 3 really, and so will vote for the Greens as I like their stance on a lot of issues.

I'm too young to vote, but if I could I'd vote Lib Dem because in this area they are in second and the tories have the seat, and Labour don't have much of a chance. So out of tories and Lib Dem I'd vote lib dem.

I am very pleased with the state of the nation, i am pleased with the outlook, i am pleased with the general optimism..... i am happy to stick with labour and i am in favour of investment on the scale labour are talking about.

Personal individual problems aside, i think Labour has done good job..... but that isnt unconditional, i do have some reservations about certain large scale reforms....

That's the spirit! Sod democracy and freedom, it's a waste of time


It's a democratic right not to vote. if the abstainees were counted and if a government needed a majority of the electorate then maybepolitics and politicians would campaign more effectively to engage people and get them voting.

Mebyon Kernow

I rufuse to vote for an English party. :)

It's a democratic right not to vote. if the abstainees were counted and if a government needed a majority of the electorate then maybepolitics and politicians would campaign more effectively to engage people and get them voting.

I think we should have compulsory voting like Australia, if you don't like any candidates you can say 'none of the above'. If you can't be arsed to vote don't complain about anything politicians do for the next five years.

I am sympathetic to you mrtcosin, but an English Party? They are all run by your Celtic Brothers, not that Celts/Barbarians could ever acknowledge that. Still I support an Independent Kernow, and an Independent England, I just don't want to go and subsidise you.

I'll need to see the manifestos, but probably Labour.

Labour without a doubt, I'd top myself before voting conservatives and the only way to keep those bastards out is by keeping Labour in.

Probably vote Tory. They always get in here in my area...must be something in the water.

Good points Jonesy, 'none of the above' would at register that people aren't being addressed by the politicians.

Anyway this thread is pointless the tories are going to get routed and humiliated.

Something tells me Toadboy your going to get an orgasm over the Tories getting routed, that and stealing hubcaps :)

Lib Dem if I was old enough.

If I hear another tory saying 'hard working families' I'm going to scream.

Listen here Mr Tocsin, I'll be happy when the tories get stuffed but I don't rob hubcaps - they have no market value so why get your hands dirty.

Also i'm coming to Cornwall in the summer so any more lip and I'll hunt you down, tattoo "Marines are gay" across your forehead and drop you off in Plymouth.

i'm still undecided. Last time voted Lib dems - who got in (university area) in fact labour were telling people to vote lib dem.

I literally could vote either way now - if i can't decide between the big three then i'll vote green if there is a local candidate - that's what i do whe i can't make up my mind. However I tend to be more inclined to vote green in the EU elections as I think green issues need to be taken on as large a scale as possible - as for example bannig of certain metals in electronic goods wont ork in small blocks but when the EU does it manufactureres world wde make it the defacto standard as they can't afford multiple production lines.

Lib Dem or Green, I'd rather vote for the Old Liberal Party but they don't field candidates in my constituency - they seem to only have candidates in the most obscure part of the country.
would you consider running as a candidate yourself?

I'd vote Labour if I could. I hate the fucking Tories!

Good man Mr Gamer, your hatred is encouraging, keep it up.

I wish the conservative party (note, not conservatives themselves, big difference) were hated as much over here as they are over there!!! :cry:

Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Don't fucking vote Tory!

I think we should have compulsory voting like Australia, if you don't like any candidates you can say 'none of the above'. If you can't be arsed to vote don't complain about anything politicians do for the next five years.

I disagree. I think if people can't be arsed to vote, they shouldn't have a voice. If they can't be bothered to get down the polling station and tick a box, then they aren't going to be bothered to look into who they're voting for, what their policies are, etc. They'll probably just vote the same way people they know vote. That's a worthless way of electing a government. I don'tm think folk should be encouraged to vote at all.

Lib Dem for me.

If I hear another tory saying 'hard working families' I'm going to scream.

"hard working families" :laugh:

Klingon War Party (Thats Labour to you and me) http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/waffen/violent-smiley-041.gif

"hard working families" :laugh:

arrrggghhhh! lol

I am lucky, I suppose in that there is no chance that Labour well get in in my consituency. I can vote for the Lib Dems in the hope that the Tories don't regain this marginal Lib Dem held seat.

If I lived in a Labour area, I would have a dilemma. The Labour party are now cynically telling traditional Labour voters like me that: "Well, ok, so Blair is a cunt and you know it, but you have to vote for us because if you don't you'll let the Tories back in and you know what they'll be like".

The horrible truth is they are right. With their racist pre-election campaigns against immigration and gypsies, the Tories are showing themselves in their true dispicable colours. It would be a tragedy for the country if that gang of hard-right, corrupt, lying, self-serving scum got back into power. They need to be mashed again, so that they realise that in order to ever get back in power they need to try to move back towards somewhere in the middle of this country's political centre of gravity, with a truly inclusive "one nation", if you will, vision of Conservatism. They can be pro-business, and genuinely small-c conservative and have other traditional tory values of course. However if they got back in now, we'd be faced with a nasty very right wing government. Plus this country's social fabric and schools, hospitals and social services haven't yet recovered from the Thatcherite assault of the 80s, even after 8 years of partial recovery under New Labour.

The Tories need to be kept out for at least one more term.

Labour has done some half-decent things since it has been in power and I am willing to accept that compromise is necessary to achieve power in this country. If you're not in power, you can do nowt. Whilst I never warmed to Blair and didn't have many illusions about just how right-wing he was for a member of the Labour party, I was willing to vote Labour in 97.

The sticking point is Blair now. I really don't know what I would do if I had the choice between voting for a Labour candidate not doing so and help letting a Tory in.

Nothing that has happened in my lifetime has disgusted me more than Blair's support for Bush's criminal invasion of Iraq. This has to be punished. Blair and every Labout MP who voted for the war (even if the latter were so credulous as to believe the bullshit WMD pretext) are accessories to a war crime. There were not WMDs, the war was illegal.

All Blair needed to do to find "closure" on this issue would have been to resign honourably. If he wants us to believe that he genuinely believed that this country had to go to war, kill thousands of Iraqis and lose scores of British soldiers because of Iraq's WMD threat rather than other reasons he hasn't told us about, then when the WMD weren't found, he could simply have said, "I got it wrong, I thought the WMD's were there; they are not and I resign".

By not doing so, he clearly implies that we - those against the war, were right, WMDs were always a false pretext and their absense doesn't matter as he had other reasons for leading the country to war. Therefore, he misled the country. By not resigning, he proves that he lied and therefore should resign!

However, by staying around, he is preventing thousands of decent potential Labour voters from voting for what remains today the UK's last best hope of a reasonable government (the lib dems are ok but they have not chance of winning). Many people simply cannot bring themselve to vote for a proven war criminal. In my view and many others he is a liar and a mass-murderer. I probably could not find it within myself to vote for Labour with him as leader, even though I know that there is a chance that a total gang of shite could get back into power. Many people who would naturally vote labour must hate him for that.

Blair will be personally to blame for the extent that Labour's majority is reduced this election. If the man had any decency or sense he would have resigned.

[A bit of an essay there, sorry, but once I started laying out my thoughts, I needed to put it all down. At least I needn't post on this thread again]

I won't vote as not British, but I would vote for UKIP.

Liberals would come 2ND though.

I'm a bit torn. Labour narrowly beat the Tories in my constituency in 2001 (Wimbledon), and the Lib Dems were nowhere.

Naturally I'm a Lib Dem, so the conundrum is: have lots of Labour supporters decided to vote Lib Dem since the war, or is Labour's support high enough still? I would tactically vote to keep those miserable, selfish Tory boys out... (see below)

http://www.tacticalvoter.net (sorry Zim!)

As for the abstainers/'they're all the same' losers:
A single parent on minimum wage makes roughly £11ph as a result of Labour's economic policies. The Tories would scrap Tax Credits, Sure Start, Child Trust Funds and probably, if the CBI got its way (possible), the minimum wage. And that's one tiny policy area. Wake up.

I'm a bit torn. Labour narrowly beat the Tories in my constituency in 2001 (Wimbledon), and the Lib Dems were nowhere.

Naturally I'm a Lib Dem, so the conundrum is: have lots of Labour supporters decided to vote Lib Dem since the war, or is Labour's support high enough still? I would tactically vote to keep those miserable, selfish Tory boys out... (see below)

http://www.tacticalvoter.net (sorry Zim!)

As for the abstainers/'they're all the same' losers:
A single parent on minimum wage makes roughly £11ph as a result of Labour's economic policies. The Tories would scrap Tax Credits, Sure Start, Child Trust Funds and probably, if the CBI got its way (possible), the minimum wage. And that's one tiny policy area. Wake up.

No probs Bobser, one of the things I love about this country is that we can all vote for who we like with out threatening each other. I love elections and it's great that we are all so diverse, otherwise what a boring place it would be. :cheers:

Just read the report on the latest ballot-stuffing from Zanu-PF, what a massive surprise.

Then I thought just how outrageous those Labour postal vote scams were in Birmingham, very reminiscent. I have to vote Lib Dem...

I didn't realise there are 1 million Zimbabweans living in the UK.

Does anyone else think tories and libdem at a local level are quite competant, but only labour are worthy of running a government?

I didn't realise there are 1 million Zimbabweans living in the UK.

Zimbabwe and the UK are so simular up untill recently we even had GCSE's straight from Cambridge as our examination board, so I guess it's the natural home for us here.

I know alot of black Zimbabweans are joining the British army and that really pisses Mugabe off.

My only concern with so many Zimbabwe's coming here, is that there should be manditory HIV tests on all Zim immigrants as so many people in Zim are positive.

On a wider note when this is all over, the links between Zimbabwe and the UK will be stronger as there will be so many black Zimbabwean's with family in the UK and not just white Zimbabweans. White and Black Zimbabweans will also be united in their suffering and hopefully work together as one - which will be a big evolution in the development of Zimbabwe as a multiracial nation at peace with itself.

I sincerely hope it's sooner rather than later Zim.

Mbeki should be forced to eat every ANC poster from the last forty years due to his appalling appeasement of Mugabe. Does he not realise that it's overwhelmingly poor impoverished black Africans who are being starved to death and being thrashed by the man's militias?

Where's the rhetoric of freedom, justice, democracy and empowerment now Thabo? This bullshit neocolonial paranoia is causing people to die, get over it and help your struggling brothers. The terrible situation now in Zimbabwe is Robert Mugabe's fault, not Tony Blair's or the white farmers...

Does anyone else think tories and libdem at a local level are quite competant, but only labour are worthy of running a government?

yup.

The coneservative part are not fully fit to represent the conservative ideology, but the do get some decent candidates at local level who actually care about the area.

Thats why, If I could vote, I'd vote Conservative in local elections and for the member of parliament, however they won't win anywho at national level, they will probably just cut the Lab majority. But it will still be comftable enough for Blair.

I won't vote as not British, but I would vote for UKIP.
UKIP are one step above the BNP, no thanks!

mbeki should be injected with hiv so he can personally discover it causes aids. of course it suits him to blame poverty rather than hiv for the spread of aids as his govt doesnt have to provide people with anti viral drugs then.

The horrible truth is they are right. With their racist pre-election campaigns against immigration and gypsies, the Tories are showing themselves in their true dispicable colours. It would be a tragedy for the country if that gang of hard-right, corrupt, lying, self-serving scum got back into power. They need to be mashed again, so that they realise that in order to ever get back in power they need to try to move back towards somewhere in the middle of this country's political centre of gravity, with a truly inclusive "one nation", if you will, vision of Conservatism. They can be pro-business, and genuinely small-c conservative and have other traditional tory values of course. However if they got back in now, we'd be faced with a nasty very right wing government. Plus this country's social fabric and schools, hospitals and social services haven't yet recovered from the Thatcherite assault of the 80s, even after 8 years of partial recovery under New Labour.

The horrible truth is they are right. With their racist pre-election campaigns depicting the jewish tory Chancelor and leader on a pigs body and howard as a Fagin oliver twist evil Jewish charactor, Labour are showing themselves in their true dispicable colours. It would be a tragedy for the country if that gang of hard-right, corrupt, lying, self-serving scum got back into power again. They need to be mashed again, so that they realise that in order to ever get back in power they need to try to move back towards somewhere in the middle of this country's political centre of gravity, with a truly inclusive "one nation", if you will, vision of labour rather than a bodged attempt at devolution. They can be pro-worker, and have other traditional labour values of course. However if they got back in now, we'd be faced with a nasty very right wing government. Plus this country's social fabric and students haven't yet recovered from the large debts University students have to pay - or the difficulty in getting an NHS dentist leading people to have to pull out their own teeth, or the chaos in social services that has lead to many poor children suffering. Hospitals under 8 years of New labour have become the laughing stock of the world with huge levels of entirely preventable infectious desieases such as MRSA despite huge increases in spending. Not to mention the waste of money spent on privatising the London underground and poor management of the railway.

The horrible truth is they are right. With their racist pre-election campaigns depicting the jewish tory Chancelor and leader on a pigs body and howard as a Fagin oliver twist evil Jewish charactor, Labour are showing themselves in their true dispicable colours. It would be a tragedy for the country if that gang of hard-right, corrupt, lying, self-serving scum got back into power again. They need to be mashed again, so that they realise that in order to ever get back in power they need to try to move back towards somewhere in the middle of this country's political centre of gravity, with a truly inclusive "one nation", if you will, vision of labour rather than a bodged attempt at devolution. They can be pro-worker, and have other traditional labour values of course. However if they got back in now, we'd be faced with a nasty very right wing government. Plus this country's social fabric and students haven't yet recovered from the large debts University students have to pay - or the difficulty in getting an NHS dentist leading people to have to pull out their own teeth, or the chaos in social services that has lead to many poor children suffering. Hospitals under 8 years of New labour have become the laughing stock of the world with huge levels of entirely preventable infectious desieases such as MRSA despite huge increases in spending. Not to mention the waste of money spent on privatising the London underground and poor management of the railway.

Well said and a nice play on words.

I work in both the NHS and Social Services at present, and let me assure you they are considerably better than they were in 1997. The latter is modernising rapidly, and the former has had proper funds invested in it. OK the results are taking time to come through, but from 20 years of chronic underfunding it takes a long time to get things back just to the basic level they should be at. 80% of the public in a MORI poll were now satisfied with their NHS treatment, and the hysteria about waiting times etc is being redirected (rightly) to MRSA because that particular problem is going away.

We spent less of our GDP on health than Greece did under the Tories (under 7%) - now it's over 9%, still well below France or Germany. Hence their better health systems. It is getting better though, and it needs sustained investment.

The Conservatives' plan to offer a 50% rebate for patients who choose to go private for operations is disgusting. Only those who can afford it will benefit, while ordinary taxpayers' money will go direct into the pockets of that less-than-needy minority.

Furthermore, who does Michael Howard think is going to perform these extra operations to bring down NHS waiting lists? Well, it'll be NHS consultants who expand their private practice. Net result: Private patients will receive an increasingly quicker service, while NHS waiting lists stall as the doctors required to perform the extra operations are busy doing them on private patients elsewhere. Two-tier system. Genius!

there is apparently a shortage of approx 1500 dentists in the nhs. there are 300 asylum seekers who are qualified dentists and prevented from working. madness.

Labour for the simple fact that I can't get enough of Mrs Blair's singing.

No! Labour because there is nothing prompting me to vote against them. Sure they may have invaded Iraq, and that wasn't very nice - slap on the wrist, but what Blair and co have done for this country is amazing. Booming economy, near enough 100% employment, improving NHS, Devolution to shut up us 'barbarians' as lostboy so delicately puts it ... the list is endless.

I'll be voting labour, for three reasons

1. They haven't stuffed the economy up (this is what will keep them in)
2. Minimum wage
3. Their aims to help tackle third world debt

The horrible truth is they are right. With their racist pre-election campaigns depicting the jewish tory Chancelor and leader on a pigs body and howard as a Fagin oliver twist evil Jewish charactor, Labour are showing themselves in their true dispicable colours. It would be a tragedy for the country if that gang of hard-right, corrupt, lying, self-serving scum got back into power again. They need to be mashed again, so that they realise that in order to ever get back in power they need to try to move back towards somewhere in the middle of this country's political centre of gravity, with a truly inclusive "one nation", if you will, vision of labour rather than a bodged attempt at devolution. They can be pro-worker, and have other traditional labour values of course. However if they got back in now, we'd be faced with a nasty very right wing government. Plus this country's social fabric and students haven't yet recovered from the large debts University students have to pay - or the difficulty in getting an NHS dentist leading people to have to pull out their own teeth, or the chaos in social services that has lead to many poor children suffering. Hospitals under 8 years of New labour have become the laughing stock of the world with huge levels of entirely preventable infectious desieases such as MRSA despite huge increases in spending. Not to mention the waste of money spent on privatising the London underground and poor management of the railway.

Did the Daily Mail editor write that reply for you?

I'll be voting labour, for three reasons

1. They have stuffed the economy up (this is what will keep them out)
2. Minimum wage
3. Their aims to help create world debt
FTFY.

I wish the conservative party (note, not conservatives themselves, big difference) were hated as much over here as they are over there!!! :cry:

I don't think they're hated in England in general, after all, if Scotland left, England would probably be blue for years to come, but they appear to be hated a lot on this forum and if anyone on here is a Tory they probably won't say because they'll get torn apart, leading to stupid arguments fueled by peoples own political agendas (i.e completely and utterly pointless)

I'll probably vote conservative myself, but I probably won't vote at all, as I'm sick to the back teeth of British politics, complete and utter fucking joke.

I'll be voting Conservative. As I've always voted Conservative, and I'm a party member.

As for the hatred on this forum? Well, that's just people with a closed mind hating something without even wanting to understand the reasons behind the policy being debated and rallying against it because The Guardian or some other Socialist biased news agency is against it or purely because it comes from the Conservatives.

No different to the narrow minded closet Nazis chanting "tory scum" outside Downing Street before Cameron had even set foot over the door

Big difference is that Conservatives are prepared to do things which are unpleasant in the short term because they believe that those things will benefit the country in the long run. Labour, as a rule, aren't.

Governments are here to do what's best for the country - not to do things because they want to be popular.

The Tories don't make the right decisions though - that's precisely the point.

Cutting the 50% rate and privatising the NHS are not only deeply unpopular but they're the wrong decisions to take.

You'd think given that your party hasn't won a general election for 20 years you'd be a bit more humble?

Let's be honest here, the only way that Conservatives ever get elected is by lying through their teeth before the election, and then adopting a 'divide and rule' mentality once they get in.

Labour are no saints either. Admittedly you can say 'Labour have good intentions' more often you can of the Tories, but they just tend to spend spend spend without due care about value for money, and their strategies almost always end up being unsustainable.

Oh, has that thread merged with SSC Political Poll?

Does nobody on here look at the date these topics are started???

It's a wonder how they get resurrected in the first place ...

It's a wonder how they get resurrected in the first place ...

Sometimes it happens.

Right now I think the Tories are extremely close to a vote collapse. I would consider myself a core Tory voter : professional, good salary, family, middle class values etc etc and I am finding it hard to support a lot of what they do. In fact, I am writing a letter to my local conservative association to set out exaclty how pissed off I am with them and that as things stand right now they dont have my vote (I'll post my letter and response on here). I think I am similar to hundreds of thousands of core tory voters right now. In addition they have pissed on their other core vote - pensioners - who are turning away in droves.

The goverment has based its mandate largely on money and fairness in getting the debt paid down so I have two major beefs when they say 'those with the broadest shoulders carry the heaviest burden. How can they say this when :

1. Benefits are paid on household income not individual. My wife for example is not entitled to housing or income support because of my income. Although this doesnt effect me directly how the hell is it fair that a household with an income of £80k gets the child allowance whereas one with £60k doesnt?!!!!!

2. Why does somebody earning £100k have a marginal tax rate of 60% and somebody earning £1mln have a marginal tax rate of 45%. ?!!!!


There are many other things they have done that are pissing me off.

I am happy with some of what they have done and they would be unlikely to lose my vote to Labour because I dont trust them. But they need to stop taking their core vote for granted. Right now if there was an election I would spoil my ballot paper.

I have no idea what I think regarding parties at the moment. I'm in two minds about all of them.

It's dangerous to every say 'that party has my vote' as it allows the said party to be complacent. All parties are complacent at the moment though.

The Tories think they can rely on their core vote in the Home Counties and rural areas as they're clearly not trying to gain votes in the north. I mean they're reluctant to give a few million for rail improvements compared to the billions being poured into the SE. Equally Labour just keep whacking out the same working class arguments about how the Tories are overlooking them. But then when Labour get in, they're no different to the Tories.

Not that it matters - I don't have much choice. It's between Tories and LDs... as if that's a choice anymore!?

the pensioner problem is a problem not because of the tax they slapped on them - it isn't much - but because they lied about it which means they didn't bother trying to argue it. people don't like being lied to when they can see very clearly they are worse off.

i think they are close to vote collapse too. it's just about everything. it doesn't matter whether it was petrol or pasties or simply the fact they have completely failed to turn around the economy or civil liberties or just about anything. i never thought i'd say it but they are making the last lot look almost competent!