That is to say, Made in "?" is strongest.

That is to say, Made in "?" is strongest.
Not sure - If something is 'made in Japan' it gives an alure of Quality and strenght - though Japan now outsources most of its manufacturing. German and Swiss products would probably be up there too.


jt

Japan, easily.

It used to be Germany, but not anymore.

in terms of cofee....100% Café de Colombia :happy:

i think Germany and Japan - however so much is out sourced I guess we have to think of design when it comes to manufacturing.

Yeah, it's very much Japan. With cars, Japanese cars don't have the character of some European cars but you know it's a quality product and won't let you down.

Personally, I like British and Italian cars - the two countries with the worst reputation in the automotive industry.

as for product, manufacture, german stuff still is solid and such but yep, some faulty designs around, siemens knows about that, and mercedes just joined the club

also sweden exports good prods

also sweden exports good prods
I was gonna say Sweeden but then I thought of Ikea - LOL. Volvo and Saab are well known for quality.

jt

The best products are still ones with the highest amount of highly skilled hand-made input and high quality components. So any place that has high labour costs means the market for those products is generally limited to high-end products...not mass-produced products which rely on lower quality and lower costs to manufacture.

Most european countries fit this bill....but "Swiss-made" still seems to hold the most cashe...and has for a long time.






KGB

I drive a 2001 VW Passat, and its maintenance costs are hard to swallow. But it is definitely a unique car, it drives well and it has a structure as solid as what one would expect of a car from Deutschland.

German cars and products are great, but Japanese cars seem to require much less maintenance.

Made in GERMANY of course.

When it comes to marihuana the Netherlands! Best quality product! Oh yeah, and our clogs are top notch! :D

When it comes to icecream, Italy.
When it comes to cars, Japan.
When it comes to chocolates, Belgium.
Etc...

Made in Japan, NO DOUBT!!
:wink2:

It seems that everything is "Made in China" these days. :lol:

few decades ago, Made in Japan implied poor quality....
today, Made in China means poor quality....

Made in Switzerland

Usually all high prize countries have to produce quality products, as they couldn't export non-quality products at those prices. You can't produce cheap in Switzerland, so you have to produce quality stuff.

Swiss

few decades ago, Made in Japan implied poor quality....
today, Made in China means poor quality....
Most countries in the world were poor few decades ago say 1950s and 1960s. But the Japanese economy was still better than Britain and France at the time. Japan surpassed Germany in 1967 and became the world's second largest economy. Until few years ago, Japan's per capita income was the largest in the world. Made in China really is poor quality and you can't use the same reasoning as Japan's, where has been distorted by full of prejudiced anti-Japan media all over the world. There is no reason the Chinese products deliberately claim being Japanese instead of being Chinese if they really are of good quality. Japan has never claimed anyone's products as Japanese.

Usually all high prize countries have to produce quality products, as they couldn't export non-quality products at those prices. You can't produce cheap in Switzerland, so you have to produce quality stuff.

???
Sorry, but it's totally absurd and so pretentious...


Moreover I think some of you mix up "quality" and "reliability".
There is no poor or good quality ! The Quality is reached when the custumer is satisfyed...

made in germany
but I can't forget some disgusting brands like Grundig, Nordmende, blaupunkt, or the Siemens combino!

Nippon (Japan)

Japanese cars are much better than German cars....

There are a lot of countries who have quality products though...

???
Sorry, but it's totally absurd and so pretentious...


Moreover I think some of you mix up "quality" and "reliability".
There is no poor or good quality ! The Quality is reached when the custumer is satisfyed...
No, it isn't.
Quality is a general costumer good, reliability is just an aspect of it.
People pay high prices for quality, reliability is an aspect of it.

Anyway before you do name calling, back up with arguments.

Germany

　　　

Made in Japan have quality products. Made in China will probably improve quality in the future as decades go by, since it's new in manufacturing items that they never done before.

It is definetly a good thing to have "Swiss-made" on one of your products.

First the product I think of Swiss-made is the mechanical watch. But I think it is a matter of taste. I use a wave ceptor watch which is far more advanced than it.

JAPAN, no doubt.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/digitaljoe/Boeing_Family_poster.jpg
Source: Boeing Co.

U.S. ... production of the finest commercial aircraft.

Japan, Germany, Netherlands, France

for Mobile phones, Korea wins :D
Samsung is known to have the most solid handsets around

but other than that, Made in Japan is better (cars, motorbikes etc)

Swiss, Germany, Netherlands, Japan.

Germany? ...or....Japan? hmm.....Hard to choose one.

It totally depends on what type of product you are talking about, just because a country makes good cars doesn't mean it makes good textiles, cheese, whisky, software or pharmaceuticals. The question is too ill defined to be answered properly imo.

Japan in general produces very good quality products, though in certain subcategories other places do better.

Swiss, Japan, US

Germany? ...or....Japan? hmm.....Hard to choose one.
hard? Japan no doubt :)

Stop thinking about cars, and you'll realize that products bearing "Made in the USA" last the longest, especially longer than "Made in China"

Japan- Cars, electronics
Germany- Cars, heavy machinery
USA- Aircrafts and military technology

I've known a few Italians and they give me the impression of being arrogant and boasts almost about everything made in Italy (coffee, leather fashion, cuisine... and even tea). geez

In terms of high tech stuff, like nuclear medicine, military equipment, space equipment, software, computers, nano chips, the US has the best reputation and quality.

If you want to talk about short-bread cookies, the Scottish have the best quality :)

Short-break cookies?

products bearing "Made in the USA"

I can't remember the last time I saw one of those ;)

Germania

The only time I have ever come across a product which had "made in ..." written on it, it has either said China or Taiwan. On the odd occasion you see 'made in the EU.'

I can't remember the last time I saw one of those ;)

There are quite a few, still. ;)

You just have to look more closely... unfortunately. :(

As for the topic of this thread... when we talk about large-scale high-quality manufacturing of advanced products that few countries have the capability of producing, three come to mind: US, Japan, and Germany. These three countries are still the world's three largest high-end and high-tech manufacturing countries for producer-goods as opposed to consumer goods. All three are huge in heavy machinery and high tech stuff that is sold to corporations and governments around the world... especially for companies and governments looking for contractors to build such stuff. Want construction equipment to build a new airport, or machinery to build a huge assembly line? Chances are the company you will call is in one of those three countries.

There are quite a few, still. ;)

construction equipment to build a new airport, or machinery to build a huge assembly line

Yeah, I think i've got some of that type of stuff lying around my apartment somewhere.

My briefcase is made in USA. I used to use a Coach briefcase but at present a Tumi. I used to be overjoyed at Coach's soft leather and smell at it a lot but after that I felt it heavy and got tired of, so sold it.

Germany. Swiss's ABB Co. isn't bad.

for Mobile phones, Korea wins :D
Samsung is known to have the most solid handsets around

but other than that, Made in Japan is better (cars, motorbikes etc)
No way. Mobile phones in Japan are also much better than the Korean ones.

A mobile phone is a mobile phone, i've never had one that has fallen apart whatever the brand. They are free anyway so it doesn't really matter.

When it comes to illegal disc copies, China definately wins. You can hardly find illegal CDs with the quality of official products outside this country. What a shame~

Germany. Swiss's ABB Co. isn't bad.

Talking of Switzerland I think of mechanical watches. Among others personally I like Rolex and at present own 2 Rolex watches.

A mobile phone is a mobile phone, i've never had one that has fallen apart whatever the brand. They are free anyway so it doesn't really matter.
A big part of the world is rather passionate about the build quality and functions of mobile phones and there's a large difference between the brands and models. Also, you pay for them one way or another, often by subscription and the stupid branding crap that certain network operators fuck up the mobiles with :)

For me those 3 countries:

- Germany - all of heavy tools, cars, trucks, cranes, electric equipment, machines, and other "big machinery".

- US - military (aircrafts, aircraft carriers), medicines, space 'tools'

- Japan - hi-tech microprocessors, computers and other staff.

i'd be happy with

MADE IN
japan
usa
germany
korea

and i guess england/france etc but u hardly see anything made in these countries

i'd be happy with

MADE IN
japan
usa
germany
korea

and i guess england/france etc but u hardly see anything made in these countries

But not Canada? :laugh:

^ of course canada as well.... i was just using examples

if needed i can add canada australia new zealand finland netherlands etc etc hehehe

When things are massed produced in one country it will not be as special or unique because you hear the name all the time. Take China for example it makes everything from paper to satellites and rockets. People only know the common products that China produces and neglect the fact that other products they produce are good quality. I'm not talking about shoes,clothes,furnitures or other stuffs you can find at Walmart. I am talking about Computers, semiconductor chips, super computers, satellite technologies, military technologies, aerospace technology, their shipbuilding industry(3rd largest currently), biotechnology, porcelains(thats why its called China),silks, tea, mobile phones and other consumer electronic products. Take the current LCD and plasma tv you see at your local electronic shop, it may have a Panasonic, Hitachi or even Sony labled on it, but some of them were actually made by TCL(worlds largest TV maker) and the Japanese brand was slapped on to the product.

Anyways as for what nations products regards for being the best,well it really depends on what kinda product you're referring to.

For vehicles it would be Germany,Japan,and Italy
Electronics? Japan,Germany,Korea, and Taiwan
Furnitures? Sweden,Netherlands and Italian
Perfume or cosmetics? France, and Italy
Wine? Italy, France, and Spain
Leather? Spain and Italy
Watches? Switzerland
Chocolates? Belgium
Superb quality sound systems? Britain,Netherlands, Denmark, USA, and some Jap ones.
glass? Italy (venice)
Cigars? Cuba
Coffe? Columbia
Tea? India,China, Sri Lanka and Japan
Ceramics/porcelain? Britian, Italy, China, Japan, and France.
Steel? Czech Republic, Japan, S.Korea, and USA
Mangos? Philipines (they're the best)
Durian? Thailand
Apples and Oranges? USA
Ginseng? S.Korea, and China
Silk? China
Salmon? Canada
Vodka? Russia, and Sweden

ok thats all I can think about for now.

Made in Germany, Finland, Austria, Japan...

No way. Mobile phones in Japan are also much better than the Korean ones.
no no no
Korean is better Technically,
Japan was first to introduce 3mp camera phone, but Korea was faster to realease a 5 and 7mp phones.

Korean Samsung is world No.3 GSM mobile phone maker, and the largest producer for CDMA devices.

Also Korea is the first nation in the world to adopt 3G technology (Third
Generation), by a US firm Qualcomm - in October 2000.
And only one year later (1st October 2001) did NTT DoCoMo release 3G service.

Talking about GSM phones,
Samsung is famouse for their vibrant colour screens, loud polyphonic ringtones and Solid Build quality.
LG has one of the top selling products in the '3' Network - the U81**'s

Also Korea is the first nation in the world to adopt 3G technology (Third Generation), by a US firm Qualcomm - in October 2000.
And only one year later (1st October 2001) did NTT DoCoMo release 3G service.

It depends how you interpret the term "world's first". Japan did faster than Korea to put it into practice.

all my things are made in China,they are all very good

Anyway I dont need cameras for phones and have no interest in cameras on phones. It's enough for me just to make calls and email.

Anyway I dont need cameras for phones and have no interest in cameras on phones. It's enough for me just to make calls and email.
me2

Made in China.

i seldom or rather never see anything that's not made somewhere in asia or the the eu so i can't reaaly say. But i do like french and american cars though.

japanese DESIGNED products are generally the best

gotta be germany by far....

Anyway I dont need cameras for phones and have no interest in cameras on phones. It's enough for me just to make calls and email.

It's shame to have a camera in the city, so the phone with a camera is better than the camera in the city.

When it comes to marihuana the Netherlands! Best quality product! Oh yeah, and our clogs are top notch! :D

^This is something to be ashamed of, not the other way around.

Overall there is no single country that would fit all criteria for superior products.
Examples are:
precision machinery/weapons/pharmaceutical: Switzerland
electronics/automobiles: Japan/United States
aviation/space technology: United States

Generally high wage countries specialize in high quality products.

That's news US superior products are autos.

Best Coffee = Guatemala

Best Rums in the world = Guatemala
-Zacapa Centenario-

Furniture = Sweden
Bikes = USA
Outdoor equipment = France?, Germany?, USA
Computer components = Taiwan, Japan?, soon China?
Cameras = Japan

US JAPAN AND GERMANY PRODUCES the overall best quality

The best is "made in germany"

And also really good: Any of the Old EU countries (15), Japan, USA

The best food of the world is without doubt "MADE IN SPAIN"

Japanese, German reputation has been taken a beating recently.....

Made in Germany,Switzerland,Sweden and Japan!

Most countries in the world were poor few decades ago say 1950s and 1960s. But the Japanese economy was still better than Britain and France at the time. Japan surpassed Germany in 1967 and became the world's second largest economy. Until few years ago, Japan's per capita income was the largest in the world. Made in China really is poor quality and you can't use the same reasoning as Japan's, where has been distorted by full of prejudiced anti-Japan media all over the world. There is no reason the Chinese products deliberately claim being Japanese instead of being Chinese if they really are of good quality. Japan has never claimed anyone's products as Japanese.

Japan surpassed Germany in 1967 and didn't become the world's 2nd largest economy. It surpassed Soviet Union's economy in early 1980's, then it became the world's second largest economy. Lets not forget Eastern European economies were growing head to head or faster than capitalist countries, until the late 1970's when their economies started to stagnate.

It depends how you interpret the term "world's first". Japan did faster than Korea to put it into practice.

Korea developed many mobile tech too and it is very good. You can't disagree with it..

No way. Mobile phones in Japan are also much better than the Korean ones.

Do you have any proof for that? Most of people would think Japan's cell phone is best but it isn't. You can't disagree with it. And I know Korea uses some core parts from Japan, but it's not a big deal since Japan invloved into technological industy faster than Korea

But not Canada? :laugh:

Softwood lubmers? :)

It depends how you interpret the term "world's first". Japan did faster than Korea to put it into practice.

It's kind a ridiculous. Korea also did put some technologies into practice faster than Japan

Do you have any proof for that? Most of people would think Japan's cell phone is best but it isn't. You can't disagree with it. And I know Korea uses some core parts from Japan, but it's not a big deal since Japan invloved into technological industy faster than Korea
did you know that more than 70% of core parts of korean mobile are from japanese technologies?

did you know that more than 70% of core parts of korean mobile are from japanese technologies?

hm I wouldn't think it's 70%. Japan got lots of R&D so even if other countries invent something, they still have to pay royalty to Japanese companies.. Other countries have no choice, except U.S.A, Japan and Germany which went into makret earlier than anyother countries.

and I know lots of parts are from Japan.. then Why don't countries like Africa or developing Asia just import parts from Japan and finish it? Why can't they do that?? They just simply can't do that. Even if you import parts from other countries, you need technology to creat them as your "OWN" technology.. Korea is doing that, and they even make it better than other countries.. and Japan's products are not 100% Japanese.. I know Mitsubishi's TV adopted Texas Instrument's core chip, the DLP technology.

Recently, Korea is inventing some core parts too. I would say 80% of parts are now Made in Korea

Lastly, if you just simply use Korean phones you would feel that they are working much faster than Japanese phone in internet and other 3D mobile games.

Today is global age.. nobody cares if you import other goods from foreign company, or rely goods on other countries. (For ex, Canada hugely rely high tech goods on Japan)

Good quality - Made in Japan, Made in Germany

Worst quality- Made in China.

I'm a little confused, are we talking intellectual properties? Because for example I think most things made in Japan are probably not made there at all, they are most likely made in taiwan or china? Also forgive me if it sounds like im bashing Japan (I love Japan) but as far as Japanese cars go (at least toyota) every car they sell in N. america except prius & lexus sedans are made in the U.S.A. and i believe are designed and enginered here too. Same goes for europe. Now, I'll tell you which country produces absolute filth and causes so much bull throughout the world, Saudi Arabia.

In some ways, the equation has been muddied a lot over the past decade. Japanese companies used to be the most aggressive about bringing new electronic products to consumers, then Sony became the world's largest content owner and overnight became schizophrenic about crippling their products to the point of consumer uselessness so they couldn't be used to copy anything (know anyone with a Sony mp3 walkman? Neither does anyone else...), and trying to bully other Japanese companies (Matsushita, Toshiba, etc) into playing along with their silly game.

User interfaces? Eeeeeew. Apparently, Japanese consumers love products with lots of tiny buttons. Americans, in contrast, tend to prefer products with fewer, larger buttons (and a big, solid-feeling knob attached to a rotary encoder for things like volume and tuning) that have context-sensitive functions and complicated gestures for less-common functions (ie, pressing and holding button #1 while turning a knob, or pressing and holding button #3 while pressing button #8 five times before releasing button #3). European electronic products tend to either go to an ever greater extreme of gesture-overloading and outright removal than American ones (generally, Scandinavian companies), or compromise by including lots of tiny buttons for obscure functions and hiding them behind a cover (German ones).

One thing you HAVE to give Chinese companies credit for... if including a feature doesn't cost anything, they'll include it, even if it doesn't quite work properly yet. American, Japanese, and European companies will disable features they don't feel like providing tech support for (Chinese companies don't provide tech support, or meaningful manuals for that matter, so to them it's a non-issue anyway). To this day, there are STILL brand new American DVD players that can't play an XVCD and freak out over American-region disks with MP3 audio (officially, American DVD players only HAVE to support PCM and AC3 codecs). Meanwhile, brand new high-end Chinese DVD players can now play HDTV video (the Chinese HVD format stores about 2 hours of 720p24, or 1 hour of 1080i60 or 720p60 on a dual-layer 9-gig DVD, treating them like ISO-9660 DVD-ROMs that are basically mastered like normal DVDs, except they use MP@HL instead of MP@ML). I'm still predicting that HVD will quietly slip into American living rooms through Wal-Mart, and end up as the preferred HD DVD format for homemade disks, porn, and pirated movies while Hollywood is still busy arguing over whether Blu-Ray™ or HD-DVD™ have stronger copy-protection...

Europeans

Renault is the make of car more sold in Europe Wester
thus you recognize that France builds good car.
for my
made in japan
made in germany
made in korea
made in sweden
made in france
made in italy
are best quality

made in Germany
made in Italy
made in Japan
and generally made in the EU.

for the car made in russie is better
Lada :runaway:

no made in germany is good

I love Beetle and Bora Cars from VW, does ani1 knows where are they made?

i love renault peugeot citroen toyota mercedes nissan honda vw and bmw

i think the better car are german japanese and french

In alphabetical order, countries that I perceive as having several physical/tangible products of superior quality (different products are attributed to different countries) are:

France
Germany
Italy
Sweden
USA

^ and I forgot Japan

I'm a little confused, are we talking intellectual properties? Because for example I think most things made in Japan are probably not made there at all, they are most likely made in taiwan or china? Also forgive me if it sounds like im bashing Japan (I love Japan) but as far as Japanese cars go (at least toyota) every car they sell in N. america except prius & lexus sedans are made in the U.S.A. and i believe are designed and enginered here too. Same goes for europe. Now, I'll tell you which country produces absolute filth and causes so much bull throughout the world, Saudi Arabia.

Yeah many Japanese companies depend on people in China to assemble a product from parts, but the parts are imported from Japan. Similarly Lexus SUVs are assembled in the US but their parts are imported from Japan, so they seem to bear comparison with the products assembled in Japan. :)

Made in Germany of course

Germany exportation Jan-Jun 2004 362.5 billions euros
Germany exportation Jan-Jun 2005 379.2 billions euros

The quality is here, Germany stayed the first exporter of the world in front of USA because of this I suppose. :cheers:

Japan
Germany
Korea (recently. go samsung)
USA

Europeans in General, Japan, Korea

Japan for everything from pen to car
Germany for some stuff
Swerden for car
Italy for desk and handiwork

germany and swiss made. exspecially watches of course.
breitling etc.

Made in USA means poor quality to my family... My dad's like "That's an american car it's ganna croak in 2km" or Oh God that TV says made in USA put it bak" lmao.

Made In Canada means good.

french cars are average but when it comes to large scale engineering and massive project, France is definitely the best. there are some few disasters like the CdG terminals but France develops the best in term of large scale engineering like the Eiffel tower, Millau bridge, eurotunnel, concorde,TGV, arianne rockets and super efficient nuclear reactors way superior to the japanese reactors, not to mention all the gigantic structure France has and is developping to study nuclear reactions, totally distancing every nation in some field. Large scale engineering, nuclear technology, food industry and luxury products France is the best. Cars and small scale engineering in btw the Jap and the germans. Banking the british, aircraft the Yanks with French and european close by.

JAPAN, Germany.

those who said that goods made in china are good are refering to goods made in china with Japanese and imported components, or under a foreign brand name (so that the foreign Quality Control team takes over). In fact all products in China with any technological content have their cores made in Japan, Korea or Germany because Chinese cannot make it themselves. All the decent Chinese products you see around the world are all churned out by Japan-made and German-made machine tools.

Made in USA means poor quality to my family... My dad's like "That's an american car it's ganna croak in 2km" or Oh God that TV says made in USA put it bak" lmao.

Made In Canada means good.


wow.. you must not use those planes made by boeing and computers made by dell!!

P.S.: do you own a ipod?

Pharmaceutical produts and military hardware: Israel
Mango's and coconut products: the Philippines.
Hi-tech: Japan
Agriculture: Holland
Electronics: Japan, Korea, Holland (Philips!)
Mass produced articles (low- or nontech as textiles): China
Nucleair technology: France
Airliners: USA, EEC, Brazil.
For many products mentioned above: Germany, Korea, Taiwan and the EEC are in some specific cases best, but not so overall.
Shipbuilding: Korea, Japan. (except cruise ships: France, Finland, Italy)

french cars are average but when it comes to large scale engineering and massive project, France is definitely the best. there are some few disasters like the CdG terminals but France develops the best in term of large scale engineering like the Eiffel tower, Millau bridge, eurotunnel, concorde,TGV, arianne rockets and super efficient nuclear reactors way superior to the japanese reactors, not to mention all the gigantic structure France has and is developping to study nuclear reactions, totally distancing every nation in some field. Large scale engineering, nuclear technology, food industry and luxury products France is the best. Cars and small scale engineering in btw the Jap and the germans. Banking the british, aircraft the Yanks with French and european close by.
What do you mean by superior than the japanese reactor?
You simply do not know about other country, but Japan has good reputation at large scale enginieering as well.
Did you know that company like Ishikawajima, Mitsubishi-heavy indutry...which relates to larger scale industry like rockets, space technologies or Mag-lev technologies are far larger than the company like sony which produces small scale engineering?

Yes. The Frenches are superior to the Japanese. The way superior to the Japanese reactor. We're fxxking shit arent we. We're just the most inferior in the world. We are just, just not worth being alive in this world. hehehehe.
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Peugeot fined €50m for breach of EU rules

BRUSSELS: The European Commission fined French carmaker Peugeot Citroen nearly €50m ($60m) for violating EU competition rules by preventing Dutch dealers from selling cut-price cars abroad. The commission, which polices competition issues in the EU, said Peugeot’s strategy from 1997 to ’03 of keeping dealers from selling cars to consumers in other member states constituted a “a very serious violation” of the EU competition law. The regulations enshrine consumers’ rights to buy where they want in the EU at the best price they can find. The pre-tax car prices in the Netherlands is among the cheapest in Europe, and it has encouraged some bargain-hunting consumers from abroad to shop in the country. In response, Peugeot said: “Peugeot will examine the decision when it is notified before deciding whether to appeal.”

The commission said that part of the remuneration of Peugeot’s Dutch dealers was made dependent on the final destination of the vehicle, which discriminated against foreign consumers, the commission said. Peugeot refused performance bonuses if dealers sold cars to non-Dutch citizens.

Hitting back, Peugeot said: “As a matter of fact, this compensation system was designed solely to increase Peugeots share of the Dutch market and was not in any way intended to restrict cross-border sales.” The commission also accused Peugeot of pressuring dealers by threatening to cut the number of cars sold to them.

Peugeot’s shares slumped over one per cent after the decision was made public, but in late Paris trading they had recovered to a loss of 0.78 per cent to 57.50 euros.

The commission has been looking closely at the car distribution sector because of wide but converging differences between prices for cars in member states. “This decision demonstrates the commission’s determination to use the (EU’s) competition rules to prevent companies from depriving consumers of the benefits of the single market,” EU competition commissioner Neelie Kroes said. “In the motor vehicle sector, such practices are particularly harmful, since the car represents the second most expensive item in the household budget,” she added.

In recent years, Brussels has taken action against a number of car manufacturers it believes were acting against the spirit of competition. Volkswagen, Opel and DaimlerChrysler have also been ordered to pay millions of euros in fines for anti-competitive practices in recent years.

.... "MADE IN GERMANY"
...espacially for cars like "PORSCHE" and the magnetic train by simens "TRANSRAPID"

made in china..... its hard to escape from that label

South African products may not swamp the international market, but our products are of the best quality:
shocking but true > award winning and highly sought red wines, & best quality brandy (better than France's); our own "tequilla" has internationally been voted a better quality than Mexico's; our olive oil is better than Italy's. Our agricultural products are of the most expensive in London shops (which speaks of quality). The BMW and Mercedes Benz factories in SA, have produced the best quality cars of those produced even in Germany. The leather for all BMW cars, are sourced from SA (best quality offcourse). Then there's our steel products (the reason why Mittal bought out Iscor & US companies asked Bush to slap us with high steel tariffs.)

Last but not least> the South African professional is the most sought after in the world, so much so, that the SA government has actually urged western governments to curb the poaching of South Africans. Why? Our universities produce some of the best doctors, nurses, teachers, IT personnel and engineers in the world! In London, almost every school, hospital and global company have at least one South African in service.

German products must have the best quality

Germany
Export: $893.3 billion f.o.b. (2004 est.)
Population: 82,431,390 (July 2005 est.)
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/gm.html

USA
Export: $795 billion f.o.b. (2004 est.)
Population: 295,734,134 (July 2005 est.)
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html

Japan
Export: $538.8 billion f.o.b. (2004 est.)
Population: 127,417,244 (July 2005 est.)
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ja.html

I know, china's product's are not common for quality products but they produce almost everything.
China
Export: $583.1 billion f.o.b. (2004 est.)
Population: 1,306,313,812 (July 2005 est.)!!!
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ch.html

It all depends on what kind of product you are talking about. In general, I'd say Germany or Japan. Those who said that France is the best because of the Eurotunnel and the Concorde (two of the greatest industrial failures ever) are ridiculous.

It all depends on what kind of product you are talking about. In general, I'd say Germany or Japan. Those who said that France is the best because of the Eurotunnel and the Concorde (two of the greatest industrial failures ever) are ridiculous.

How is Eurotunnel an Industrial Failure?

South African products may not swamp the international market, but our products are of the best quality:
shocking but true > award winning and highly sought red wines, & best quality brandy (better than France's); our own "tequilla" has internationally been voted a better quality than Mexico's; our olive oil is better than Italy's. Our agricultural products are of the most expensive in London shops (which speaks of quality). The BMW and Mercedes Benz factories in SA, have produced the best quality cars of those produced even in Germany. The leather for all BMW cars, are sourced from SA (best quality offcourse). Then there's our steel products (the reason why Mittal bought out Iscor & US companies asked Bush to slap us with high steel tariffs.)

Last but not least> the South African professional is the most sought after in the world, so much so, that the SA government has actually urged western governments to curb the poaching of South Africans. Why? Our universities produce some of the best doctors, nurses, teachers, IT personnel and engineers in the world! In London, almost every school, hospital and global company have at least one South African in service.
I try to avoid harsh words but this is some real nationalistic crap.

PS SA gets to produce expensive cars because the labor is so cheap. This is the only reason.

How is Eurotunnel an Industrial Failure?

Eurotunnel has debts of 6.4bn euros and still rising. Without any help from banks it will go bust in 2007.

Is that enough to be considered an industrial failure?

German products must have the best quality

Germany
Export: $893.3 billion f.o.b. (2004 est.)
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/gm.html

USA
Export: $795 billion f.o.b. (2004 est.)
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html

Japan
Export: $538.8 billion f.o.b. (2004 est.)
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ja.html

I know, china's product's are not common for quality products but they produce almost everything.
China
Export: $583.1 billion f.o.b. (2004 est.)
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ch.html

what? germany is no 1 exporting nation?/ do you believe crappy CIA data?? who the hell still beleive CIA? don't believe them, they are not reliable

JAPAN, Germany.

those who said that goods made in china are good are refering to goods made in china with Japanese and imported components, or under a foreign brand name (so that the foreign Quality Control team takes over). In fact all products in China with any technological content have their cores made in Japan, Korea or Germany because Chinese cannot make it themselves. All the decent Chinese products you see around the world are all churned out by Japan-made and German-made machine tools.

I bet that if you put this on any Chinese forum, you will be banned.
We successfully completed the man space mission twice so far, what about your country? :bash:
Is that Japan-made and German-made?

And in regarding to your saying about .....because Chinese cannot make it themselves.....did you feel guilty of saying so, did you?

what? germany is no 1 exporting nation?/ do you believe crappy CIA data?? who the hell still beleive CIA? don't believe them, they are not reliable

I'm sorry to tell you pal, but for once the US are not lying. Germany will be export worldcampion in 2005 too. Just keep in mind, the exports are all exported goods. Services are not taken into acount. Including them, the US would be the biggest export nation.

And how are the "Made in Australia" or "Made in New Zealand" products???

what? germany is no 1 exporting nation?/ do you believe crappy CIA data?? who the hell still beleive CIA? don't believe them, they are not reliable

1.Why are they not reliable ?

2.Show me a reliable source.

Made in ITALY

....super efficient nuclear reactors way superior to the....
funny isnt it?
i mean building and using them in your own country is always a political question. is there anybody here, who has ever been told by his government or his industry that the reactors in his country are not the best and safest ones in the world??



what? germany is no 1 exporting nation?/ do you believe crappy CIA data?? who the hell still beleive CIA? don't believe them, they are not reliable
whats your problem with that?
CIA does only lie , where it suits mr. bushs purposes. this time they are perfectly right.

I bet that if you put this on any Chinese forum, you will be banned.
im sure that will help the quality of chinese products, as well as the countries approach to democracy

Made in ~ ISRAEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, for me, anything European, and Japan.:)

Japan, US, Germany and maybe some european countries.

Pakistan is the best in producing footballs, however its a shame child labour is used.
Pakistani mangoes and oranges are also the best. There is one type of orange called kinoo which is only grown in pakistan by mixing 2 different types of oranges.

I bet that if you put this on any Chinese forum, you will be banned.
We successfully completed the man space mission twice so far, what about your country? :bash:
Is that Japan-made and German-made?

And in regarding to your saying about .....because Chinese cannot make it themselves.....did you feel guilty of saying so, did you?

Why do we need to launch manned ships now? Does that lead to business and do you think your country will be rich with that? Wasn't that just a show for Chinese people? Btw our country has launched satellites but aren't they enough for you?

Germany has been top exporter for long time although its trading surplus has been less than that of Japan's.

We should recognize that Russia is also great trade surplus making player in the world.

As far as I know,

South Korean's best products in terms of market share and usual prestige that recognized by the trading buyers who understand the field very well -

embroidered design machine.
LPG ,LNG ship
Coins
DRAM(semiconductor)
TMCP(stell)
GAS Plant
Fresh water plant

There can be more but my list is what I can say for sure now.

Why do we need to launch manned ships now? Does that lead to business and do you think your country will be rich with that? Wasn't that just a show for Chinese people? Btw our country has launched satellites but aren't they enough for you?

Yeah embedded with problem chips. Astronautics is an industry, systems engineering is an industry so cut that crap about business. I'd really love to see you get things done with the motive of showing. The most competent person must be the most showy person huh?

JAPAN

Yeah embedded with problem chips. Astronautics is an industry, systems engineering is an industry so cut that crap about business. I'd really love to see you get things done with the motive of showing. The most competent person must be the most showy person huh?

Don't you know that Cats hide their claws or Still waters run deep?

Don't you know that Cats hide their claws or Still waters run deep?
True making money is real "deep" and scientific research&engineering shallow.

Japan for electronics and cars
Switzerland or France for luxury items

JAPAN

and OBVIOUSLY

ITALY!

Quality:
AAA. United States, Japan
AA. Germany

Technology:
AAA. United States

A. Japan and some European countries

Quality:
AAA. United States, Japan
AA. Germany

Technology:
AAA. United States

A. Japan and some European countries

What are the "AAA" products of USA ?

You are right with the Technology, but quality ?

Personally, I like British and Italian cars - the two countries with the worst reputation in the automotive industry.

There's no more British car.

Stop thinking about cars, and you'll realize that products bearing "Made in the USA" last the longest, especially longer than "Made in China"

All household cleaners and detergents bearing "made in the USA" are ineffective

There's no more British car.

There are still lots of British made (and designed) cars even if the companies are not British owned.

few decades ago, Made in Japan implied poor quality....
today, Made in China means poor quality....
Given the same price, the Chinese products are not in poor quality. The impression comes from the fact that most Chinese products are cheap ones.

Which company/country makes the best trains? For example, if your city was going to buy new rolling stock for the subway and high speed rail, who would you want to build it? Mitsubishi or Kawasaki? Bombardier? Alstom? Siemens?

1- USA(Exclude Texas, please), Canada, Australia, UK, Sweden, Norway
2- France, Switzerland, most other Northern European countries, New Zealand
3- Germany, Spain
4- Netherlands, Japan, Ireland, Chile, Portugal
5- Second and Third world (include Texas, Italy, Mexico, China, Brazil, former USSR include Estonia, etc)

Given the same price, the Chinese products are not in poor quality. The impression comes from the fact that most Chinese products are cheap ones.

Chinese products with high price--- very smart design but no quality at all.

Canadian, Australian or British products with low price--- very dull design, but fairly high quality implied.

There's no more British car.

Wrong - there are still a number of British car companies, although most are subsidiaries of foreign parent companies.

Many foreign companies (Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Peugeot, Ford, GM) also own British subsidiary companies building cars in Britain.

Finally, the UK is home to a number of design houses which influence the world marketplace.

what? germany is no 1 exporting nation?/ do you believe crappy CIA data?? who the hell still beleive CIA? don't believe them, they are not reliable

If you don't believe the CIA, here are the WTO numbers:

http://offworld.homeip.net/pics/2005/wto_2004_merchandise.jpg

http://offworld.homeip.net/pics/2005/wto_2004_services.jpg

Made in Germany!!!
(Siemens, VW, BMW, Adidas, MAN, Hugo Boss, Puma, Villeroy & Boch, Niederegger ;o)

swiss made (Chocolate!!!)

Japan (Toyota)

France (Citroen)

made in holland

made in holland

Marihuana and beer?

Nah we have always been traders thus not producers.


I would go with Made in Germany.

Hmm, I tend to agree with Cymen yet for example Philips made in The Netherlands, is top quality stuff indeed. Made in Sweden also has this reassuring touch to it. And for long the NL steel industry also was top notch.

This forum can show how cynical one tends to be about one's own products. Italians quite fancied the NL Volvo cars of some 8 years ago and those sold better than in NL.

Deutschland (Germany), Sweden, Japan, Finland, Netherlands (Holland) and France may succeed to tempt me to buy their produce. Belgium and Britain are the least likely to. They pull the best jokes however.

:D

Nice new credo there, Mike! I once tried to argue in vain about NL exporting food on a huge scale. NL is the largest food exporter after US and France.

Just add to the export value to BRD that of the NL+Belgium.
1583 bln ...

Erm, that's a lot, eh? Guess why Rotterdam was the largest harbour for decades, and still ranks second within an inch behind Singapore. Yes :yes: under SPD/Grünen, Germany became the largest exporter ànd was the sole country to live up to the Kyoto Protocol. Quite astonishing, eh? Not a fashionable thing to admit: commies rule and the industry booms!

Nice new credo there, Mike!

Yes, you can call me Mijk from now on.


Yes :yes: under SPD/Grünen, Germany became the largest exporter ànd was the sole country to live up to the Kyoto Protocol. Quite astonishing, eh?

Not realy. Germany's carbon dioxide emissions were on a very high level to start from due to outdated heavy industries in former East Germany. Those East German industries had to be dismantled anyways so Germany was able to achieve quite a significant reduction in its emissions.


Not a fashionable thing to admit: commies rule and the industry booms!

Let's say the export industry boomed despite the communist rule in Germany and mainly because other countries weren't ruled by communists so that they generated enough wealth to buy German products from.

Mexico make's some good high quality tv's, dvd's, car's, and in the future high quality Bombardier airplanes :D!

Made in America, of course! Can't beat the quality of Amish Furniture. :)

Chinese products with high price--- very smart design but no quality at all.

Canadian, Australian or British products with low price--- very dull design, but fairly high quality implied.

Then why the merchandise in US supermarket are all made in China? If it's no quality, it won't last long in a competitive market. let me tell you, because the "made in USA" ones with the same price tag cannot compete. :)

My guess is because China has some of the cheapest labor in an industrialized country. Sure, labor in some parts of Africa is probably cheaper, but they don't have the infrastructure to build any finished products.

And for the most part, Americans don't bother looking at the "made in" tags, they just look at the price tag. For cheap finished goods like clothing or toys anyway. If I buy a car or expensive electronics, I'd be more finicky about where it was made.

The products made in China are never low quality because their parts are imported from the companies in developed countries. The operation in China is just to assemble parts into goods. That's a simple operation on the conveyer belt for day laborers in developed countries.

^^ the products made in China are never low quality ???
Please !

Even graduates from name university in China are pleased to get a blue-collar job at the low wages below those of junior high school graduates in developed countries. This is welcome to overseas companies. The facilities and materials are carried to the cities in China by these companies, so the quality seems to be warranted. Unexpectedly factory labor in China are brighter than those in developed countries. Factory labor in developed countries are full of low educational backgrounds like junior high school or high school or third rate university graduates.

yes yes

yes yes

:) indeed in italy they'd say:
''L'importante e' essere convinti''

What about food? Polish bread is the best:)

Made in Mexico

Made in Germany, !!!!!

.

Japan and Germany win

^^ the products made in China are never low quality ???
Please !
Some of the highest quality

Japan!!

Switzerland and japan/germany as close second

For cars, most of the finest come out of Germany & Italy, Japan is making up ground pretty quickly though. I would say Japan for electronics.

Japan is making up ground pretty quickly though.
Or rather it seems the Japanese cars are dominating the US market at the moment. How do you feel about it?

Depends on the product:

Germany makes excellent heavy equipment, optics, machine tools and chemicals. The cars are very good but overpriced.

Japan makes excellent miniaturized electrical equipment, electronics, cars that are excellent and not overpriced.

US makes very good agricultural products, various foodstuffs, military equipment, airplanes, and recreational equipment.

South Korea makes excellent large-scale ships for international trade.

Italy makes excellent hand-crafted products and specialty foods.

France makes excellent cheese and wine.

China can mass produce low-quality products and sell them at an artificially low price.

China and other cheap overseas countries keep stealing jobs from Australia :mad2: Just last week, Kraft sacked 150 Aussie workers to save a few cents by making the products in China. Stats show that over the last few years, 50,000 australian jobs were exported to China :mad2: Every bloody thing in the supermarket is virtually made in China, and apparently they use human and animal material as fertiliser for the vegies and fruits which get imported to Australia full of ILLEGAL chemicals :puke: Our farmers and workers are losing jobs, going broke because of this overseas imports bullshit and the main offender is China, with 95% of vegetables sold in Australia originating from China or some other overseas place :rant: :puke:

A few weeeks ago, farmers had to dump thousands of tonnes of Pure Fresh Australian grown oranges because they cant sell them because of shit quality chinese imports that are laced with god knows what.

go to any shop here, and EVERY FUCKEN THING is made in China :mad2: Honestly, you can't buy anything other than Chinese made stuff here because all our manufacturing is being stolen by China and other overseas countries while our people are suffering as a result; but manufactures and governemnts are allowing it to save a few cents on labour costs. About 2 years ago, I bought clothing that was, like every other fucken item under the Australian sun, made in China, and now, they have holes in them and are getting ripped. :rant:

In contrast, my dad has some German clothing which 20 years after being bought, are still in perfect condition.

INDIA doesnot have a name in manufacturing, but it is rapidly evolving into an important Research & Development and Design center in the world. Over the last 5 years, more than 100 multinational companies have established R&D centers in India not just for low cost but also for top quality of technical manpower available in the country.

This is especially true for electronics and software, and gradually also for mechanical, aerospace and pharmeceutical fields. Microsoft, Google, IBM, HP, Adobe and many others develop critical software in India. Intel, Cisco, Texas Instruments design chip and hardware circuitry in India. GE R&D center in India now employs as many researchers as in USA, and performs cutting edge research for GE aircraft engines and other GE businesses. Honeywell, Snecma, RollsRoyce, (soon Boeing), GM, Bosch, Delphi design their products in India. Pfizer, Glaxo and others are doing drug development in India.

Indian companies in IT, pharmecuticals, and automotive industry are also investing in R&D. As they globalise and grow in size, more revenues will be available for R&D. In space, India makes top quality satellites and is improving the capability of its rockets.

Given the speed of progress in R&D over the last 5 years, it is reasonable to expect that within a decade, India will be a critical R&D, design and services center of the world just as China is for manufacturing today.

No offense intended.. but those in the western world who underestimate the determination and capability of India or China to make their mark in high-tech areas (and I find quite a few of them in this forum) are in for a big surprise.

I understand that solid reputations are built over time.. as USA, Germany, Japan and other countries have built for themselves. That reputation can be built for India, in terms of quality of engineering and scientific manpower, faster than others may think.

China and other cheap overseas countries keep stealing jobs from Australia :mad2: Just last week, Kraft sacked 150 Aussie workers to save a few cents by making the products in China. Stats show that over the last few years, 50,000 australian jobs were exported to China :mad2: Every bloody thing in the supermarket is virtually made in China, and apparently they use human and animal material as fertiliser for the vegies and fruits which get imported to Australia full of ILLEGAL chemicals :puke: Our farmers and workers are losing jobs, going broke because of this overseas imports bullshit and the main offender is China, with 95% of vegetables sold in Australia originating from China or some other overseas place :rant: :puke:

A few weeeks ago, farmers had to dump thousands of tonnes of Pure Fresh Australian grown oranges because they cant sell them because of shit quality chinese imports that are laced with god knows what.

go to any shop here, and EVERY FUCKEN THING is made in China :mad2: Honestly, you can't buy anything other than Chinese made stuff here because all our manufacturing is being stolen by China and other overseas countries while our people are suffering as a result; but manufactures and governemnts are allowing it to save a few cents on labour costs. About 2 years ago, I bought clothing that was, like every other fucken item under the Australian sun, made in China, and now, they have holes in them and are getting ripped. :rant:

In contrast, my dad has some German clothing which 20 years after being bought, are still in perfect condition.
People live by the day and with only a few items they'd buy, would really give it some thought if that product is worth purchasing. Like, no ozzie would buy a chinese cricket bat, just why would you buy other products from China when it's pretty clear it's crap?
There's no need for import bans, just stop buying crap, all of you :yes:
I buy produce from genuine democracies only :yes:

the way I buy

Food: made in Portugal. Happy with made in Italy, or made in Brazil or made in Japan
Cars: don't really care. I like British and Italian cars though
Wine: Portugal and France, discovered Latin-American wine recently , not bad at all.
Clothes: don't really give a shit as long as they look good on me(and me in them) :sleepy: I do like Italian designers
Technology: whatever. Chinese do it cheaper. Japan is well-reputed , though.
Medicine: probably Switzerland, but don't they have a monopoly?
books :D : errrm, Portigal? :D
trips: to Brazil mostly
chocolate: made in Italy (I :hug: Nutella)
coffe: Made in Brazil, prepared in Portugal
beauty products: made in France, made in Switzerland
beer: made in Portugal :cheers: (there'snothing like a fresh Superbock)
music: made in the UK, made in Brazil, made in Portugal , made in the US of mighty A
clocks: I just wanted to say Switzerland again :D



Men :D : errrrm :D


I have a great lifestyle :tyty:
:D

Canada manufactures great Hockey players!

Made in Germany/Switzerland for most things.

People live by the day and with only a few items they'd buy, would really give it some thought if that product is worth purchasing. Like, no ozzie would buy a chinese cricket bat, just why would you buy other products from China when it's pretty clear it's crap?
There's no need for import bans, just stop buying crap, all of you :yes:
I buy produce from genuine democracies only :yes:
mate, we CAN'T stop buying products/produce from China because there is NOTHING BUT CHINESE products available here. Most Chinese products ARE SUBSTANDARD and DO FALL APART shortly after purchase. My ADIDAS pants lasted 2 years before getting torn and holed. A look at the label will give the reason. The result of cheap labour. I would pay the few cents or dollars more to buy genuine quality western products that LAST and wont' deteriorate at the drop of a hat. It is literally IMPOSSIBLE to find anything home grown/made these days. Believe me, I try to purchase Australian, US, European products but you cannot find any. It really defies belief. Just recently, I went out clothes shopping to a store where there are the big names: Billabong, Ripcurl, Quiksilver Adidas, Puma etc, and no joke, EVERY LAST ITEM was made in China. :rant:

thunderhead-
that's sad. It'd require a consumer revolt.

Germany and the UK!!!

There are high quality factories in China and there are low quality factories in China. Where your "Made in China" product was made depends on the corporation that is outsourcing the product to China.

Many top quality suits are made in China, but only in certain top quality factories.

It really depends on the product.
I've bought a Made In China Laptop. When i bought it i didn't even notice where it was made in.
The model is the Samsung X20. I've had absolutely no problems with it and i'm sure most of the components, eg HD were made in China.

However i bought a $2 dollar torch the other day made in China since i needed it urgently and it was the only one i could find.
And guess what.....
The torch didn't even work with the cheap supplied batteries on the first go.

So it really depends on the product and company that outsources their production along with the amount of quality control that company exhibits.

The best is "made in germany"

And also really good: Any of the Old EU countries (15), Japan, USA

The best food of the world is without doubt "MADE IN SPAIN"

Seat has the worst reputation in quality, among the cars of Volkswagen group, while Czech Skoda has one of the best, and these cars except body and interior are pretty much the same.

USA: Aircraft, computer software, medicine, home hardware, agriculture.
Japan: Automobiles, consumer electronics, tea.
Germany: Heavy machinery, beer.

China and other cheap overseas countries keep stealing jobs from Australia :mad2: Just last week, Kraft sacked 150 Aussie workers to save a few cents by making the products in China. Stats show that over the last few years, 50,000 australian jobs were exported to China :mad2: Every bloody thing in the supermarket is virtually made in China, and apparently they use human and animal material as fertiliser for the vegies and fruits which get imported to Australia full of ILLEGAL chemicals :puke: Our farmers and workers are losing jobs, going broke because of this overseas imports bullshit and the main offender is China, with 95% of vegetables sold in Australia originating from China or some other overseas place :rant: :puke:

A few weeeks ago, farmers had to dump thousands of tonnes of Pure Fresh Australian grown oranges because they cant sell them because of shit quality chinese imports that are laced with god knows what.

go to any shop here, and EVERY FUCKEN THING is made in China :mad2: Honestly, you can't buy anything other than Chinese made stuff here because all our manufacturing is being stolen by China and other overseas countries while our people are suffering as a result; but manufactures and governemnts are allowing it to save a few cents on labour costs. About 2 years ago, I bought clothing that was, like every other fucken item under the Australian sun, made in China, and now, they have holes in them and are getting ripped. :rant:

In contrast, my dad has some German clothing which 20 years after being bought, are still in perfect condition.
feel sorry for you but one thing to clarify is that by going to China, the retailers saved big money, not a couple of cents. China's a labour cost is only 1/30 of that in developered countries (imagine the big cost difference). Because of the high competition, Chinese factories' profit is very small. Thus neither Chinese manufacturers nor poor Chinese workers made any fortune. (China got trade surplus by mass production but think how much pollution it generated and how much energy i.e. oil it consumed). It's your country's retailers and brand companies who earned the big difference and should be blamed.

Hey, you, find a better job.

For cars : Made in Japan, Germany, UK, France and Italy (without Fiat)

Japanese products are getting a reputation as good quality but can never get the same prestige as German or British products. For example most middle classes in the world desire Mercedes cars, and Rolls Royces for upper classes. Chinese products going after Japanese are not worthy of consideration. Actually Japanese people love western European brands and culture. It's unclear why the Japanese love them but I think the reason is because European design and culture are superior to those of Japanese. Curiously it's applicable to human being as well. It's why Japanese women want to have sex with white men. There are some theories about it but the most convincing theory is that any woman has the maternal instinct to want to leave more beautiful posterity. The point is they want to have sex with white men to leave more beautiful posterity in Japan.

^^ Makes me want to go to Japan. :D

I went to China and the long established Chinese products, bought by the Chinese (the most discerning and demanding customers if ever I saw), usually by less megalomaniac companies were of superb quality - it was surprising how good. The big export factory stuff with contracts to foreign markets was shite, though the outsourced deals with the multinationals were of better quality. The locals always knew which ones to buy and which ones not to, and which ones might be ok to risk depending on the price.

My uncle who's in business there was stating how hard it is to get past the populace with faults or price increases, something you can see in the way the Chinese regard their food, spending a full third of all income on it - it has to be of the freshest, most natural ingredients and all at the most competitive prices you could barely skim past with a profit. Only if its really good you can charge whatever you like and people will buy in spades - quality is still the biggest selling point.

The good thing is that the workers are intelligent, efficient and the way traditional Chinese business practice works is everyone is involved and has a say for the greater good of all (read: the company), without the inefficiency of so much hierarchy. In a well run business the stuff they produce is done with a lot of responsibility and soul if you know what I mean, not just hard work.

The bad thing is the Chinese profit margins and the competitive price demands - this leads to corruption, also easily applied in the guanxi favour system - one of the biggest examples of this is the multibillion dollar Yangtze Dam, designed to the worlds highest standards and no expense spared etc... until it was discovered one of the contractors secretly replaced the concrete with slightly weaker grade stuff and they had to literally bulldoze huge sections and start again. The skyscrapers going up across China are meant to be to the worlds highest standards, having to deal with a combination of major earthquake zones, floods, yearly typhoons, and once-in-a-century mega typhoons - but of course only in theory. The reality would be different in many cases due to the pressure of short term gain over long term.

Most Europeans think themselves higher in social status than Chinese.

I think the manufacturing quality of the Chinese products have really been improved, and they are now some of the highest standard in the world. China is very underestimated in my opinion.

China and other cheap overseas countries keep stealing jobs from Australia :mad2: Just last week, Kraft sacked 150 Aussie workers to save a few cents by making the products in China. Stats show that over the last few years, 50,000 australian jobs were exported to China :mad2: Every bloody thing in the supermarket is virtually made in China, and apparently they use human and animal material as fertiliser for the vegies and fruits which get imported to Australia full of ILLEGAL chemicals :puke: Our farmers and workers are losing jobs, going broke because of this overseas imports bullshit and the main offender is China, with 95% of vegetables sold in Australia originating from China or some other overseas place :rant: :puke:

A few weeeks ago, farmers had to dump thousands of tonnes of Pure Fresh Australian grown oranges because they cant sell them because of shit quality chinese imports that are laced with god knows what.

go to any shop here, and EVERY FUCKEN THING is made in China :mad2: Honestly, you can't buy anything other than Chinese made stuff here because all our manufacturing is being stolen by China and other overseas countries while our people are suffering as a result; but manufactures and governemnts are allowing it to save a few cents on labour costs. About 2 years ago, I bought clothing that was, like every other fucken item under the Australian sun, made in China, and now, they have holes in them and are getting ripped. :rant:

In contrast, my dad has some German clothing which 20 years after being bought, are still in perfect condition.
You are sick. :)

Yeah, it's very much Japan. With cars, Japanese cars don't have the character of some European cars but you know it's a quality product and won't let you down.It has already been proven that Japanese and Korean cars are of better quality than their European counterparts.

Made in India : Anything Software, Science, Nano technology, Civil Nuclear Technology, Cinema, Cricket, Mobile Technology, and Cruise Missles.


Now entering Motorbike and Car markets. Indian cuisine is also of the highest quality.

Most Europeans think themselves higher in social status than Chinese.

hmmmm...

Japanese products are getting a reputation as good quality but can never get the same prestige as German or British products. For example most middle classes in the world desire Mercedes cars, and Rolls Royces for upper classes. Chinese products going after Japanese are not worthy of consideration. Actually Japanese people love western European brands and culture. It's unclear why the Japanese love them but I think the reason is because European design and culture are superior to those of Japanese. Curiously it's applicable to human being as well. It's why Japanese women want to have sex with white men. There are some theories about it but the most convincing theory is that any woman has the maternal instinct to want to leave more beautiful posterity. The point is they want to have sex with white men to leave more beautiful posterity in Japan.


you are so right. Stupid japanese!! Don't how they are richer than these "superior" (culture and otherwise) countries! thats a crying shame isn't it. Now can someone tell me where is my samsung :)

USA, wtf joke...

Germany, Japan and France of course.

USA, wtf joke...

Germany, Japan and France of course.


It DEPENDS on what you buy..USA does produce lot of very good quality products. Next time remember this before using a intel/amd processor (on which your computer is running). People dopn't even realise who many american products they directly/indirectly use.

Japan is mostly into consumer stuffs..When you build "rockets", you might wanna try made in USA.

According to my study at university German men are the second most popular after the Anglosaxons and Anglo-Americans. The Teutons (The ancient German tribes) that the Germans, the Anglosaxons and the Scandinavians belong to are the most typical and popular of Whites like they're often called living pearls. Anglo-Americans are descendants of the British but they're gentle unlike the other races in the US. But you should caution Australians. They're descendants of the British as well but their ancestors were banished by the British Empire for high crimes, so they're still violent and uneducated unlike the native Anglosaxons and Anglo-Americans.

^Dude, I think you should register at stormfront.org. This is a skyscraper forum.

According to my study at university German men are the second most popular after the Anglosaxons and Anglo-Americans. The Teutons (The ancient German tribes) that the Germans, the Anglosaxons and the Scandinavians belong to are the most typical and popular of Whites like they're often called living pearls. Anglo-Americans are descendants of the British but they're gentle unlike the other races in the US. But you should caution Australians. They're descendants of the British as well but their ancestors were banished by the British Empire for high crimes, so they're still violent and uneducated unlike the native Anglosaxons and Anglo-Americans.


what is this, a racist encyolepdia written by neo-nazis!! So australians are bad now but anglo-saxons are real charm!!

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yehh. damn right! all the racist "xyz" hang out there. Or may be this guy already is foot soldier of stormfront!!

what is this, a racist encyolepdia written by neo-nazis!! So australians are bad now but anglo-saxons are real charm!!

I think no one is bad in the world but the reason you feel them bad is for their family environment.

I have a Billabong shirt which I bought less than 2 years ago, Being made in China ofcourse, holes are already starting to appear in it.

The reason why China labour is so cheap because they just throw the products together for a few cents or bucks, then sell them for $50 only to last 2 years before ending up on the scrap heap. No wonder China has such a booming economy - they make crap, sell them for 100 times the production cost, rake in the massive profit and run home laughing while the consumer is left with an exhorburantly priced piece of crap.

I have a Billabong shirt which I bought less than 2 years ago, Being made in China ofcourse, holes are already starting to appear in it.

The reason why China labour is so cheap because they just throw the products together for a few cents or bucks, then sell them for $50 only to last 2 years before ending up on the scrap heap. No wonder China has such a booming economy - they make crap, sell them for 100 times the production cost, rake in the massive profit and run home laughing while the consumer is left with an exhorburantly priced piece of crap.


hence you have proven your IGNORANCE about how global economy works.

oh face facts you blind bat. China is a cheap labour place, the stuff that comes outta there is second rate. I am not kidding when I say my made in china clothes are falling apart.

I also have some German attire, which after 20 years, still hasn't popped a stitch.

The Slavs and the Chinese have always been hired at low wages by the Teutons like the Slavs used to be slaves of the Teutons in the middle ages. The Slavs are a shame to Whites. They behave proudly anywhere while the prestige of Whites was made by the Teutons. Also they often pretend the Anglosaxons and behave violently in the US, so we need to watch out for them. All real Anglosaxons in the US are gentle.

oh face facts you blind bat. China is a cheap labour place, the stuff that comes outta there is second rate. I am not kidding when I say my made in china clothes are falling apart.

I also have some German attire, which after 20 years, still hasn't popped a stitch.

1) Quality of chinese product varies from "company" to "compnay". Walmart sells chinese stuff, Old navy chinese stuff, JC penny sells chinese stuff and Gap too (get the idea). But the Quality of product is not same everywhere. It's walmart which is screwing you, not China.
2) All these companies buy chinese good for not even 1/5 of the price you buy it from them. So it's your fucked up australian company which is looting you and not China.

As I said, better learn "real economics" before bugging everyone with your version. And do buy GERMAN Tees which last for 20 years.

you cant get any German Tee's because the market is flooded by chinese imports. And Don't go calling Australian Companies Fucked up, you damn bitch

this is a very open topic, the best in what D:? For some of the products I use that I consider the best:

Apples / Plums / Fresh herbs & Fresh dairy products / Juices: Australia

Alcohol (Bundy / Woodstocks): Australia

Seafood & Red meats: New Zealand, by far

Pistachios / Mushrooms / Flavoured dessert essences: California, USA

PC Games / Music / Hi-tech products: USA

Gaming servers: Japan

Cars (that I want): Germany

Pasta sauces: Italy

Cheeses: Norway

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I've noticed in a fair few posts the discrimination of Chinese products, you only pay $5-12 for okay looking clothes that are made in China, and they last a while if you take care of it properly.

You should be thankful that you don't pay $30-55 for something thats basic and Australian made, I know i'd have a puny wardrobe if clothes cost that much.. and just imagine if you had to pay 10x for basic essential products if it wasn't made in China, I know i'd be broke!

I have a Billabong shirt which I bought less than 2 years ago, Being made in China ofcourse, holes are already starting to appear in it.

The reason why China labour is so cheap because they just throw the products together for a few cents or bucks, then sell them for $50 only to last 2 years before ending up on the scrap heap. No wonder China has such a booming economy - they make crap, sell them for 100 times the production cost, rake in the massive profit and run home laughing while the consumer is left with an exhorburantly priced piece of crap.
wrong.

Actually Chinese factories sell their products to big retailers like Wal mart, JC Penny at a very cheap price. It's the big retailers who sell them 100 times to the comsumers.

And look at how hard the Chinese workers are doing their job and compare it to yourself. you would know why China has such a booming economy.

you cant get any German Tee's because the market is flooded by chinese imports. And Don't go calling Australian Companies Fucked up, you damn bitch
You cant get any German Tee's because your Australian companies can't make any money out of it. Developing countries like China and India are simply the scapegoats.

I've noticed in a fair few posts the discrimination of Chinese products, you only pay $5-12 for okay looking clothes that are made in China, and they last a while if you take care of it properly.

You should be thankful that you don't pay $30-55 for something thats basic and Australian made, I know i'd have a puny wardrobe if clothes cost that much.. and just imagine if you had to pay 10x for basic essential products if it wasn't made in China, I know i'd be broke!
No, I have to pay upto $40-50 for brand neame T-shirts such as quicksilvere and Billabong. These are all made in China and are falling apart after just 2 years with proper care.

wrong.

Actually Chinese factories sell their products to big retailers like Wal mart, JC Penny at a very cheap price. It's the big retailers who sell them 100 times to the comsumers.

And look at how hard the Chinese workers are doing their job and compare it to yourself. you would know why China has such a booming economy.
When I go shopping for clothes, I see nothing but made in china clothing even in big brand shops such as Billabong, Quiksilver etc.

According to my study at university German men are the second most popular after the Anglosaxons and Anglo-Americans. The Teutons (The ancient German tribes) that the Germans, the Anglosaxons and the Scandinavians belong to are the most typical and popular of Whites like they're often called living pearls. Anglo-Americans are descendants of the British but they're gentle unlike the other races in the US. But you should caution Australians. They're descendants of the British as well but their ancestors were banished by the British Empire for high crimes, so they're still violent and uneducated unlike the native Anglosaxons and Anglo-Americans.

this is your last post here, any further of your BS and I'll be posting your links to Italian Police, to deal with you and your racist propaganda...

BTW, do not try to re-register, ...

When I go shopping for clothes, I see nothing but made in china clothing even in big brand shops such as Billabong, Quiksilver etc.
Just read news that Walmart employs Chinese worker at less than 40c/hour in China.

so you see how greedy the big brands are but you cant blame them too much because it's called profit driven, or in other words, we are in a free economy world.

bottom line is, there's nothing wrong for the poor workers to produce cheap goods, they are at the bottom of the food chain.

I didnt think I'd be sat here with my jaw on my knees in stunned and amused amazement after seeing which country's products are seen as the best quality! This forum is such good value for money!

... Anyway! I see Swiss and German as an overall mark of good quality, especially for certain things like pens clocks, cars.. chocolate etc. Italy for good shoes, France for good food and wine , Japan for the best electronics and good cars.

"Made in the EU" is something that always confuses me. For some reason I dont think 'quality' when I read that although it probably is. Made in the USA? I dont think I've ever seen on a product in a shop..... er... good sweets?

Scotland for the finest wool.

"Made in England" is one I dont recall seeing too much of. Its usually something weird like selotape, pottery, pharmeciticals etc. I think 'quality' whren I read a mountain bike or sports car is made in England.


This is a really interesting topic. Its obvious that we know very little about what various countries are REALLY good at making. Maybe someone could shed some light on this?

Made in England :D
http://www.automotivechronicles.com/articles/2005/mar/02/images/b33185-aston-martin-dbr.jpg

Made in the USA
http://thewaterexchange.net/ro100.gif

Made in the EU ;)
http://www.bzangygroink.co.uk/images/ozone.jpg

Japan.
;)

We cannot live without the Chinese products these days. Everything is made in China. They look all right though, from the clothes to the electronics. We can wear them and use them, which is very important.

You hit the nail on the head where you say everything is made in china. They may look alright, but they don't last. It's all cheap.

You hit the nail on the head where you say everything is made in china. They may look alright, but they don't last. It's all cheap.


there's always "designer" cloths..

We cannot live without the Chinese products these days. Everything is made in China. They look all right though, from the clothes to the electronics. We can wear them and use them, which is very important.

Yeah most of the cheap goods are made in China until they have the right to strike for higher pay.

Yeah most of the cheap goods are made in China until they have the right to strike for higher pay.


Ignorance is such a bliss!! Especially when it comes from most "advanced" human beings!!

The Slavs and the Chinese have always been hired at low wages by the Teutons like the Slavs used to be slaves of the Teutons in the middle ages. The Slavs are a shame to Whites. They behave proudly anywhere while the prestige of Whites was made by the Teutons. Also they often pretend the Anglosaxons and behave violently in the US, so we need to watch out for them. All real Anglosaxons in the US are gentle.
I think you are very offensive. The Chinese are the most dedicated workers and the Slavs are good-looking (probably the most beautiful people on the earth), much better than the Germans in my opinion. I mean they both are very gentle and hard-working people.

I think you are very offensive. The Chinese are the most dedicated workers and the Slavs are good-looking (probably the most beautiful people on the earth), much better than the Germans in my opinion. I mean they both are very gentle and hard-working people.

The Anglosaxons are the strongest and greatest race but superior derivation from the Germans (the ancient German tribes). The Germans are the second most superior race after the Anglosaxons.

The Anglosaxons are the strongest and greatest race but superior derivation from the Germans (the ancient German tribes). The Germans are the second most superior race after the Anglosaxons.
lol. which race are you from? must be the weakest and most inferior one. that's the only thing I can tell from your comments :hahaha:

The Anglosaxons are the strongest and greatest race but superior derivation from the Germans (the ancient German tribes). The Germans are the second most superior race after the Anglosaxons.

Are you on crack or something?? Why is this guy not banned yet?

The Anglosaxons are the strongest and greatest race but superior derivation from the Germans (the ancient German tribes). The Germans are the second most superior race after the Anglosaxons.

wow... uh...

no wonder Hitler wantted England so bad.

give me a break would ya? what are you 12 years old?

The Anglosaxons left enduring legacies.

The Anglosaxons are the strongest and greatest race but superior derivation from the Germans (the ancient German tribes). The Germans are the second most superior race after the Anglosaxons.
The Celtic people are very nice indeed. :yes:

The Celtic people are very nice indeed. :yes:

The Celts have been ruled by the Anglosaxons for many years, so they can speak English fluently. Actually the people who have round eyes, long nose and long legs can speak English while those who have slant eyes, short nose and short legs can't speak English even in Japan.

http://railpics.fc2web.com/studyeyes.jpg

lol man you need to be banned again .

Okay then, if I see someone with non reflective, square pupils then I'll refrain from speaking English to that person :crazy:

Nippon, no doubt about it. ;)

The Celts have been ruled by the Anglosaxons for many years, so they can speak English fluently. Actually the people who have round eyes, long nose and long legs can speak English while those who have slant eyes, short nose and short legs can't speak English even in Japan.

http://railpics.fc2web.com/studyeyes.jpg
You probably need to speak to the mods. :laugh: