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mr.x
April 8th, 2005, 09:28 AM
We all know that we have three media super powers in Canada:

- Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, with main anchor Peter Mansbridge
http://home.utm.utoronto.ca/~mrubello/CBC-logo.gif




- Canadian Television, with main anchor Lloyd Robinson
http://www.ctv.ca/mar/images/logo/ctvLogo.gif




- CanWest Global, with main anchor Kevin Newman
http://www.canwestglobal.com/images/logos/global_red.gif



Who's your favourite considering style of coverage, graphics, theme music, opening music, special music, quality of coverage, honesty and non bias, etc.?

Evaluate if you want by copying and pasting the below scoresheet and filling it out for each of the three networks.


Style of news: /10
Graphics: /5
Music (theme, special, feature, etc.): /5
Quality of news: /40
Anchors, news reporters, etc.: /5
Special features and originality of coverage: /5
Honesty and bias: /30
TOTAL: /100

*Jarrod
April 8th, 2005, 10:33 AM
okay, i watch Global BC (BCTV). i find that it has a better style? i'm not sure.. but i used to watch BCTV when it was CTV, but now it's Global and i've just stuck with it. i like the anchors and the style. but sometimes i watch CITYTV Vancouver.
Style of news: 9/10, the deliver it really professionaly
Graphics: 5/5 very modern
Music (theme, special, feature, etc.): 5/5, it catches my attention
Quality of news: 30/40, sometimes i just get tired of hearing the same thing over and over. i also don't like how it focuses mostly on the lower mainland
Anchors, news reporters, etc.: 3/5. the morning ones suck. in the morning i usually switch to citytv
Special features and originality of coverage: 3/5 meh, nothing too special
Honesty and bias: 30/30
TOTAL: 85/100

Grey Towers
April 9th, 2005, 12:18 AM
The least bad is CBC's "The National" (forget the 6 o'clock) or "CBC Sunday Report", although I'm not terribly thrilled with any of the "news" services we have in Canada. I'd love to see something as no-nonsense and unadorned as PBS's "Jim Lehrer Newshour".

Anyway, The National:
Style of news: 7/10
Graphics: 4/5 (but I don't give a shit)
Music (theme, special, feature, etc.): 5/5 (I like The National's intro music, but again, who cares?)
Quality of news: 34/40 (sober, informative, but doesn't cast a large enough net)
Anchors, news reporters, etc.: 4/5 (all are tolerable)
Special features and originality of coverage: 3/5 (The National's documentaries are good)
Honesty and bias: 22/30 (The CBC has a clear lower-left bias (fine with me), but it is forthcoming about that bias, and always gives the other side its say. Alternate explanation: maybe I'm so accustomed to corporatized "news" (read: all the others) that I'm blind to news that is actually impartial)
TOTAL: 79/100

mr.x
April 9th, 2005, 09:43 AM
i watch Global by far the most with CTV and the CBC in a second tie.


GLOBAL:

Style of news: 9/10 (professional when it is professional and its fun and humurous when the time is right)
Graphics: 5/5 (very sleek)
Music (theme, special, feature, etc.): 5/5
Quality of news: 38/40
Anchors, news reporters, etc.: 5/5
Special features and originality of coverage: 4.5/5
Honesty and bias: 29/30
TOTAL: 95.5/100


CTV:

Style of news: 8/10
Graphics: 4.5/5
Music (theme, special, feature, etc.): 5/5
Quality of news: 36/40
Anchors, news reporters, etc.: 4.5/5
Special features and originality of coverage: 4.5/5
Honesty and bias: 28/30
TOTAL: 90.5/100



CBC:

Style of news: 7/10
Graphics: 3/5
Music (theme, special, feature, etc.): 5/5
Quality of news: 37.5/40
Anchors, news reporters, etc.: 5/5
Special features and originality of coverage: 5/5
Honesty and bias: 24/30
TOTAL: 86.5/100

samsonyuen
April 9th, 2005, 09:12 PM
CTV and Newsnet are much less partial than CBC and Newsworld. Global's coverage is quite dull and uninspiring.

crazyjoeda
April 9th, 2005, 11:48 PM
Global National is the best by far, its faster paced and less dull then the others. CTV's national news is the worst. Lloyd Robinson sucks hes so boring and CTV's news is presented very dull. CTV is Canada's most watch news because you fall a sleep with the TV on. CBC is good qulity news but I still find it dull, but they have great documentarys.

mr.x
April 10th, 2005, 02:09 AM
i love the Global graphics especially the ones for the National. on weekdays, its the red globe and on weekends its a red map in a room that goes upside down and then "Global National" appears.

i really like some of the CBC's graphics but some of it really do seem outdated and unprofessional. same with CTV.

mumbojumbo
April 10th, 2005, 04:14 AM
CBC definately.

LooselogInThePeg
April 10th, 2005, 05:57 AM
I chose Global more out of hometown pride than anything. I find it comparable to CTV for the most part though. CBC is quality but the bias is unmistakable. Their lack of impartiality detracts from the message and therefore I wouldn't vote for them.

Boris550
April 10th, 2005, 06:03 AM
I voted CTV because I watch CFCN for local news...

CBC is pretty good as far as graphics and depth are concerned, but their bias is very clear and a lot of the time the content is stuff I could have watched on CNN in far less time. Sometimes it also annoys me how some long stories on the National are about heavy snowfall in this area or another (often TO)...who the hell cares, it's Canada...

vid
April 11th, 2005, 08:38 PM
i love the Global graphics especially the ones for the National. on weekdays, its the red globe and on weekends its a red map in a room that goes upside down and then "Global National" appears.

i really like some of the CBC's graphics but some of it really do seem outdated and unprofessional. same with CTV.


Yoyu wanna see unprofessional, watch TBTV news (www.tbtv.com) it looks like it'som the 70s :p

Byron
April 11th, 2005, 09:08 PM
I don't look at graphics as much as impartiality and content. Global always seems to be touting the party line, which is why alot of people call it Fox News Canada. I don't think it's that extreme, but you can see the bias. CTV is pretty good, but the CBC is definitely the best, especially The National.

malek
April 11th, 2005, 09:17 PM
Radio Canada by far and don't tell me its the same as the CBC, its not.

Lord Arsenal
April 12th, 2005, 05:26 AM
cbc is number #1 for best programming and news Broadcast.

Homer J. Simpson
April 12th, 2005, 05:28 AM
I will admit that CBC is my favourite, but if I'm going to watch the news I am going to do so on more then one network to get a spread of different opinions/biases.

salvius
April 12th, 2005, 05:30 AM
CBC, because of The National.

WinnipegPatriot
April 12th, 2005, 06:25 AM
Global National is my preferred source: fast-paced, and Kevin makes me want to stay tuned; Lloyd is too stuffy--he has gotta go; Tom Clark is the best replacement! Everytime I tune into The National, they are always covering foreign crap that I am sick of. Brian Stewart is fucken scary looking--more times than not he looks like he is drunk--eyes all droopy and blood-shot-looking...

mr.x
April 12th, 2005, 06:50 AM
correct me if i'm wrong about your province.


the network news domination:

BC: Global
- Vancouver: 1) Global (300,000 local average)
2) CTV (50,000-90,000 local average)
3) CBC (30,000 local average)

ALBERTA: Global

SASK: Global/CTV

MANITOBA: CTV

ONTARIO: CBC/CTV
- Toronto: 1) City Pulse and CTV
2) CBC
3) Global

QUEBEC: Radio Canada (CBC)

NOVA SCOTIA: CBC/CTV

NEW BRUNS: CTV/CBC

NEWFOUNDLAND: CBC

PEI: CTV

malek
April 12th, 2005, 07:01 AM
correct me if i'm wrong about your province.


the network news domination:

BC: Global
ALBERTA: Global
SASK: Global/CTV
MANITOBA: Global/CBC
ONTARIO: CBC/CTV
QUEBEC: CBC Radio Canada
NOVA SCOTIA: CBC/CTV
NEW BRUNS: CTV/CBC
NEWFOUNDLAND: CBC
PEI: CTV

CBC doesn't dominate in Quebec, its Radio Canada with its all news channel RDI. But the most watched evening news are on the TVA network.

WinnipegPatriot
April 12th, 2005, 07:28 AM
CKY (CTV) dominates in Manitoba! CTV pretty much dominates the whole country since Global has been too cheap to buy top American programming; CTV buys it. CTV has been the ratings champ for the past couple of years, with Global having maybe two shows in the top 20. Actually, the latest ratings features an anomaly: Global has six shows in the top 20....

http://www.bbm.ca/en/nat03282005.pdf

Global does very well in the Vancouver market because it was shrewd and bought BCTV, the ratings champ!

rt_0891
April 12th, 2005, 07:29 AM
correct me if i'm wrong about your province.


the network news domination:

BC: Global
ALBERTA: Global
SASK: Global/CTV
MANITOBA: Global/CBC
ONTARIO: CBC/CTV
QUEBEC: CBC Radio Canada
NOVA SCOTIA: CBC/CTV
NEW BRUNS: CTV/CBC
NEWFOUNDLAND: CBC
PEI: CTV

For Toronto, it would be CityPulse & CTV. CBC would be third. Global fourth.

WinnipegPatriot
April 12th, 2005, 07:39 AM
As far as ratings, in Toronto, CTV is number one. CBC is last!

mr.x
April 12th, 2005, 08:10 AM
CBC doesn't dominate in Quebec, its Radio Canada with its all news channel RDI. But the most watched evening news are on the TVA network.

that's what i said. Radio Canada.



CKY (CTV) dominates in Manitoba! CTV pretty much dominates the whole country since Global has been too cheap to buy top American programming; CTV buys it. CTV has been the ratings champ for the past couple of years, with Global having maybe two shows in the top 20. Actually, the latest ratings features an anomaly: Global has six shows in the top 20....

http://www.bbm.ca/en/nat03282005.pdf

Global does very well in the Vancouver market because it was shrewd and bought BCTV, the ratings champ!

ok. well, remember though that CTV is owned by telecommunications and media giant Bell. they have a lot of dough in their hands. Canwest doesn't have as much.

The BCTV Global "News Hour" has a average of 300,000 viewers per night in the Lower Mainland alone.

crazyjoeda
April 12th, 2005, 10:01 AM
Vancouver's Top Local News Stations are.
1. Global by a hell of a lot
2. CTV
3. CityTV (fairly close with CTV in Vancouver but doesn't broadcast to all of BC )
4. CBC

mr.x
April 13th, 2005, 02:32 AM
^ i have never watched CityTV. is it on channel 13 (Shaw Vancouver)?

skyscraper_1
April 13th, 2005, 06:26 AM
The Weather Network!

goravens
April 13th, 2005, 07:53 AM
I like CBC the best, even with their bias (which I find you can see most in their news documentaries, though those are also interesting). The National > * . Maybe it's just because I grew up watching Peter Mansbridge and Peter van Dusen (former CBOT 6pm news anchor), but I feel like the others pale in comparison.

York Transit
April 15th, 2005, 06:53 AM
Would have to be CityPulse Toronto. :) I don't watch any other...
http://mfile.akamai.com/10676/rm/ondemandrm.chumtv.com/video/shows/inhouse/citypulse/promo/powell_giuseppe_seatle.rm

I also enjoy the morning's Breakfast Television, gets you laughing in the morning... :D
http://mfile.akamai.com/10676/rm/ondemandrm.chumtv.com/video/shows/inhouse/bt/bt_moments/june04/dave.rm
http://mfile.akamai.com/10676/rm/ondemandrm.chumtv.com/video/shows/inhouse/bt/bt_moments/jan05/liza.rm
http://mfile.akamai.com/10676/rm/ondemandrm.chumtv.com/video/shows/inhouse/bt/bt_moments/feb04/liza.rm
http://mfile.akamai.com/10676/rm/ondemandrm.chumtv.com/video/shows/inhouse/bt/bt_moments/liza3.rm
http://mfile.akamai.com/10676/rm/ondemandrm.chumtv.com/video/shows/inhouse/bt/bt_moments/dec03/liza_nalini.rm

crazyjoeda
April 15th, 2005, 11:25 AM
^ i have never watched CityTV. is it on channel 13 (Shaw Vancouver)?
You've never wached CityTV? Its Vancouver's 3rd largest local TV station.

vid
April 15th, 2005, 06:39 PM
The Weather Network!

I don't like the Weather Network. I fdind their information very innacurate. Like, how a couple days ago thjey said Sunday would be sujnny and 21C, and now it's going to be variable cloudy and 19C. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS! And they often have the temperature wrong! :|

Just so innacurate. :P

AND THE ADVERTISEMENTS! 8O Crrr-azy!

mr.x
April 16th, 2005, 03:00 AM
You've never wached CityTV? Its Vancouver's 3rd largest local TV station.


I'll take a peek tonight. I usually watch BCTV and if not, CTV.

mr.x
April 23rd, 2005, 07:28 PM
you will be very shocked:

For its first 40 years, Global BC was BCTV. The name has changed, but a proud track record, particularly in local news, has remained solidly intact.

Originally as CHAN-TV, the station went through a period of signal expansion during the '60's. Now, this network of more than 80 re-transmitters and satellite coverage now results in province-wide coverage. On-air news coverage has been just as penetrating. The 6pm BCTV News Hour with longtime anchorman Tony Parsons reaches 600,000 viewers. That puts it as Canada's top-dinner-hour program and fourth in North American audiences.

The same news facility originates "Global National" with Kevin Newman plus a daily 3 hour morning show, an hour broadcast at noon, half-hour at 5 pm and a full hour at 11 pm. Weekends are just as active. Overall, the station produces more than 40 hours of local news each week, a record unmatched in any other Canadian market.

The station continue to play a vital role within the B.C. community. For more than 30 years, BCTV produced the Variety Club Show of Hearts, raising millions of dollars annually to assist the special needs children of the province. Year-round activities include charity drives for organizations such as food banks and breast cancer foundations.

As BCTV, this Burnaby, B.C. operation was a prominent member of the Canadian broadcast industry. Now, as Global BC, expectations have risen and so have the opportunities to reflect the needs, desires and concerns of British Columbia.