View Full Version : Swan Panorama, Perth- UPDATE


Dilaz89
April 8th, 2005, 11:38 AM
from todays west- one again they got their stupid facts wrong. it wont be taller than central park at all. infact the towers will come in as 4th and 5thtallest unless heights have changed under this new seidler design. anyway-
http://img225.exs.cx/img225/5419/sedilerpano15kz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

This pic is focusing on the eastern aspect and ol' man Seidler. Very ironic that this got released today as i just completed a biography on harry fro english.

http://img225.exs.cx/img225/646/sedilerpano22zd.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Muse
April 8th, 2005, 11:59 AM
*Waits for barrage of the obvious Seidler comments, yet again* http://www.sayhey.co.uk/invboard/html/emoticons/ermm.gif

Thanks :) . (Any chance of getting a clearer pic?)

Perth4life05
April 8th, 2005, 12:19 PM
fuck there uglyish, i hope the height has changed, itd be mad to have bigger :D

Muse
April 8th, 2005, 12:43 PM
fuck there uglyish, i hope the height has changed, itd be mad to have bigger :DWell, I'm glad you can tell that from the pics.

I'd still like a much clearer one.

uewepuep
April 8th, 2005, 12:45 PM
Yeah those are shockers.
How tall are they in meters?

JayT
April 8th, 2005, 12:49 PM
Well I don't know how we can judge - the photo is pretty bad so its hard to tell.

Don't mind Seidler, at least his stuff is interesting and not bland.

Should be good for Perth.
jt

Malt
April 8th, 2005, 12:58 PM
Obviously they mistook the actual height with the number of floors.
The previous heights still stand (Unless they have 4.7m floors.. which they dont)

and they are over near Qv1?

Now not only will Brisbane and Sydney be having a Seidler-thon, Perth will have its own lineup of 3.

If im not mistaken that makes it come in behind sydney? (lol @ how many syd has)


It isnt that bad IMO. Pretty much Seidler lol.

CULWULLA
April 8th, 2005, 01:11 PM
wow, they look like there from the 60's lol.
ill contacte seidler office next week to get heights.
by the look of them-

both have 4storey atriums.(12m)
2-3 storey mid section plantlevels.(9m)
tower 1-52 levels of apartments-156m
tower 2- 49 levels of apartments-147m
tower 1 has 15m LMR
tower 2-18m LMR
thus-
tower 1 height to roof-177m (LMR-192m)
tower 2-ht roof- 168m (LMR-186m)
i could be way out but they look bloody tall!
@Malt-
Seidlers highrise

SYDNEY
Blues point tower
Australia square
Grosvenor Place
MLC Centre
Cove
Capita Tower
Horizon
North
Meriton Tower UC

MELB
Shell House

BRISBANE
Riverside
Riparian UC

PERTH
QV1
Swan pano-proposed

Perth4life05
April 8th, 2005, 01:18 PM
i hope theyre 177m and 168m, if they are, uve made my day :D

Malt
April 8th, 2005, 01:37 PM
^^ yes those structures on the roof could shove them up there.

uewepuep
April 8th, 2005, 01:52 PM
Cul you forgot cove! And the other one that looks like cove.

CULWULLA
April 8th, 2005, 02:10 PM
^thanks dan, yeah left Cove and Horizon. so many to remember.lol

Perth4life05
April 8th, 2005, 02:13 PM
anyways back to bitching about the design, i like the first proposal the best :P

Malt
April 8th, 2005, 02:21 PM
Buchan did the first design. It was better , yes

Perth4life05
April 8th, 2005, 02:26 PM
alot better than anything seidler, but i was just on his site, all his houses look the same, everything looks the same, but after reading his thing about art and architecture it sorta changed my oppinion on him.

Dilaz89
April 8th, 2005, 06:08 PM
no seidler is a great architect. after doing a small bigraphy on him i understrand now

@ everyone that is the only relased photo so far wo your going to have to wait. cull do u reckon you could drag some up?? hopefully next council meeting there will be something there. cant wait!!!!

Perth4life05
April 8th, 2005, 06:16 PM
yer thats what i said, it changed my opinion, his architecture maybe a bit boring but its very arty, and thats what it says on his sight, there some quote about art, in german or something.

Muse
April 8th, 2005, 07:35 PM
@ everyone that is the only relased photo so far wo your going to have to wait. But that's what a couple of us are saying. Not that we want more pics ATM but just a better scan of the one you've already posted - no complaints, just is it possible to clearly scan it? Someone?

Because of the blurry fuzz. I think it's making it look like there are more balconies than there actually are. :nuts:

Perth4life05
April 8th, 2005, 07:39 PM
if i had the paper id take a pic of it coz my scanners not plugged in and yer, but i dun have the paper, and its saturday here so i dont think i can get it :P

Perth4life05
April 8th, 2005, 07:42 PM
heres a smaller but clearer version that i think chris posted

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/perthcitycentre/aa.jpg

still looks like a shitload of balconies, reminds me of those ugly resi's right on the river next to riverside in brissy

zulu69
April 8th, 2005, 11:51 PM
Great news for perth. I'll reserve my judgements on the design when better pics come in. Either way they are at a nice height, and a twinish design is nice.

Orfeo
April 9th, 2005, 02:26 AM
I don't really mind them that much...definatley tall.

I wonder what the other side of the towers looks like? I guess we'll find out in a while.

Dilaz89
April 9th, 2005, 04:26 AM
Muse the photo in the paper was acutually very blurry and oly about 240 by 120. Once again typical of the west

Perth4life05
April 9th, 2005, 05:24 AM
i tried looking on the west site shop were u can buy the photos, but it only has up to July 2004....

CULWULLA
April 10th, 2005, 10:06 AM
as i mentioned. if an apartment tower is quoted as "52 levels" this probably doesnt include ground level or any plantlevels.so 52 might balloon to 56 ect. but since your comparing an apartment tower to an office tower is silly where heights are concerned. 52 level office=208m, while 52 level resi=156m or 52m dif.
ill find out EXACT heights from Harrys offcie this week and let everyone know. ill even draw up a comparison to CP.
papers just want headlines and when a headline says CP will be rivalled, it sells papers

CULWULLA
April 12th, 2005, 04:40 AM
is everyone sitting down? i told you they were big!!
207m & 195m!!

height stats
TOWER 1- cnr Mounts bay rd & Spring st
52 levels (47 above grd)
height to roof-179m
height to LMR-195m
add 2m for height above sea level (AHD)

TOWER 2 -cnr Mount & Spring streets
61 levels (55 above grd)
height to roof-190m
height to LMR-207m
add 17m for height above sea level (224mRL)
the site will have 6 levels of carparking.

render will come soon.

Dilaz89
April 12th, 2005, 05:17 AM
omg thank u sooo much!!!! EXCITING TIMES FOR PERTH!

CULWULLA
April 12th, 2005, 05:59 AM
its funny how the article mentions how CP "elevated" position will ensure its stays the tallest, when infact the tallest swan tower sits at RL17m and CP is RL14m.so its 3m higher above sea.
the Rl for tallest swan tower is RL224m while CPplantroom is RL240m. so not much in really. RL for Bankwest Tower is 226m.so it will be approx as high as bankwest.!

Malt
April 12th, 2005, 06:04 AM
wow that was unexpected. Good news for perth.
Although it will certainly unbalance the skyline youve got now. Oh well, it was bound to happen.

CULWULLA
April 12th, 2005, 06:15 AM
^ that means the eastern end will have to erect some tallies.

BrizzyChris
April 12th, 2005, 06:35 AM
How friggin tall are the LMR's!!

From the render in the paper they look ugly, but a nicer colour one could prove me wrong.

After quite a few Perth forumers bashing Riparian for it's looks, it will be interesting to see if they change their tune now that Seidler is coming over there.

Dilaz89
April 12th, 2005, 06:38 AM
seidler has been and conquered over here long ago lol. Those rederings were of the crap side so im holding my breath lol.

CULWULLA
April 12th, 2005, 07:22 AM
heres a quick skyline with notable tallies. all heights are above sea level. just checkout the impact these seidler giants will have!!!
even the short towers roof is 3m higher then QV1s roof!
these really are "skyline changers"! really bulk up the eastend.

http://img68.echo.cx/img68/3687/perthskyline5ox.jpg

Citystyle
April 12th, 2005, 08:56 AM
How friggin tall are the LMR's!!

From the render in the paper they look ugly, but a nicer colour one could prove me wrong.

After quite a few Perth forumers bashing Riparian for it's looks, it will be interesting to see if they change their tune now that Seidler is coming over there.

I hold Seidler in high regard for QV1 and expect him to his best.

I just dont think rapian is that good.

Citystyle
April 12th, 2005, 08:57 AM
QV1 is the western end.

Citystyle
April 12th, 2005, 08:59 AM
its funny how the article mentions how CP "elevated" position will ensure its stays the tallest, when infact the tallest swan tower sits at RL17m and CP is RL14m.so its 3m higher above sea.
the Rl for tallest swan tower is RL224m while CPplantroom is RL240m. so not much in really. RL for Bankwest Tower is 226m.so it will be approx as high as bankwest.!

They will look huge from across the river. :)

BrizzyChris
April 12th, 2005, 09:03 AM
seidler has been and conquered over here long ago lol. Those rederings were of the crap side so im holding my breath lol.
I realise that. I'm talking just recently.

Wezza
April 12th, 2005, 10:17 AM
How friggin tall are the LMR's!!

From the render in the paper they look ugly, but a nicer colour one could prove me wrong.

After quite a few Perth forumers bashing Riparian for it's looks, it will be interesting to see if they change their tune now that Seidler is coming over there.
A few already have started. lol :) Anyways, big news.

Citystyle
April 12th, 2005, 01:33 PM
A few already have started. lol :) Anyways, big news.
:weirdo:

Wezza
April 12th, 2005, 02:21 PM
^Um, care to elaborate?

Perth4life05
April 12th, 2005, 02:23 PM
how many 200m+ does/will brisys have?

Malt
April 12th, 2005, 03:33 PM
3, plus whatever comes out of the upcoming office boom (if any)

Perth4life05
April 12th, 2005, 04:40 PM
oh okays, we havnt had an office boom i dun think :S

BrizzyChris
April 13th, 2005, 06:00 AM
You did in the late 80's.

Homeroids
April 13th, 2005, 11:42 AM
Well Perth has had the highest absorption rate in the past few 1/4's.

Perth4life05
April 13th, 2005, 11:44 AM
wat dus that mean :D??

Malt
April 13th, 2005, 11:55 AM
I dont know if its right...

But it means

Perth had the highest absorbtion of office space in the past few quarters (or a year)

Homeroids
April 13th, 2005, 12:01 PM
Yeah I can't be sure. I read an article in the paper about 2-3 months ago. It may be in one of the WA threads. I'll check on that.

Homeroids
April 13th, 2005, 12:06 PM
Here we go but it doesnt say anything about being the highest but it's good news:

Boom puts pressure on CBD office space
The booming West Australian economy is creating a shortage of office space in Perth's central business district as big companies gear up for big resources projects.

But rather than a high-rise office tower, the next big development is likely to be modest, according to property leasing agents.

Figures released yesterday by the Property Council of Australia show Perth had its biggest take-up of office space for a decade last year at 45,000sq m.

Businesses have taken advantage of cheap leasing deals to move into better quality buildings along St Georges Terrace, with premium and A-grade offices experiencing the biggest growth in demand.

The new Woodside Plaza and Ernst & Young buildings have found tenants thanks to the flow-on effect of the resources boom. Woodside, with projects from the North-West Shelf to Mauritania, may have to seek office space elsewhere for any extra staff with its namesake $250 million, 26-storey building close to full.

Property Council WA executive director Joe Lenzo said with most financiers requiring pre-commitment from tenants before funding new developments, smaller offices were more likely to be built.

"But if you get one good pre-commitment, one of the office tower proposals may go ahead," Mr Lenzo said.

Three major office towers are proposed for the CBD - 100 St Georges Terrace (Pivot Group), the vacant Westralia Square site (Multiplex and Ric Stowe) and Bishop's See, on Mount Street (Hawaiian and Multiplex).

Smaller developments include Cape Bouvard's seven-storey Allendale Two on The Esplanade, which is under construction and will add 7000sq m of office space to the CBD.

Raine Square may also be redeveloped into retail and office space after development duo Luke Saraceni and Hossean Pourzand bought the site for $21.5 million in September.

Savills commercial leasing director Graham Postma said a development of 7000sq m to 10,000sq m should have been started six months ago.

Malt
April 13th, 2005, 01:33 PM
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=201649
^Brisbanes

I assume Bris and Perth are doing the best

Dilaz89
April 14th, 2005, 09:52 AM
when r we getting renders?:D

Citystyle
April 15th, 2005, 05:04 PM
when r we getting renders?:D

Meh I want Approved
And Sales

Dilaz89
May 11th, 2005, 12:02 PM
http://img224.echo.cx/img224/4853/emubrw9ix.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

JayT
May 11th, 2005, 12:32 PM
^^^
That looks awsome!! I love the design of those things, hopefully this will get built and make a great impact.

Very unique!
jt

uewepuep
May 11th, 2005, 12:45 PM
Sorry, those are absolute shockers. They're amazingly bad, right up there with shell and riparian.

Perth4life14
May 11th, 2005, 12:49 PM
lol i recun two, less concrete needed.

JayT
May 11th, 2005, 01:00 PM
Sorry, those are absolute shockers. They're amazingly bad, right up there with shell and riparian.
Eww! You can not compare Shell to Riparian - shell is a piece of shit in comparison, Melbourne got the bad end of the deal in that one - though what can you expenct, Siedler is from Sydney, LOL.

No - Those Perth towers will be great, nothing like Shell (which was meant for a city that will never be as dense as Sydney).

@Perthforlife - yes less concrete would be good on some sections but I like the facade in general because its varied and interesting - BTW Seidler will never date unlike much of the current buildings going up in our cities.

Australia Square is just as good today as it was when it was built.
jt

christarrant
May 11th, 2005, 01:16 PM
"gulp" re those renders.....avatar's going 2 have a field day redesigning them !!!!

JayT
May 11th, 2005, 01:25 PM
"gulp" re those renders.....avatar's going 2 have a field day redesigning them !!!!

Would be easier to 'dip' them in mirror glass:D
jt

Perth4life14
May 11th, 2005, 03:08 PM
lol christarrant, the first pic is a model, there isnt grey behind the buildings lol.

CULWULLA
May 11th, 2005, 03:28 PM
harry is a thinking architect. i chatted to devloper and they were very happy with design layout.they think hes a genious!!! each unit has a view towards swan river.the plaza at ground level is spacious and towers are graceful and onlt take up 1/4 of site.. they are unit blocks not office towers. we dont want any glass here!! perth has great weather, thus the balconies!!
sheesh

Grollo
May 11th, 2005, 04:32 PM
They remind me of this tower in South Melbourne:

http://www.travelvictoria.com.au/images/southmelbourne/photos/29.jpg

Tower in the park on stilts with a concrete lift core rising above the roof of the building and small windows. Of course these proposed towers have wavybalconies which makes all the difference.

Obviosuly the City of Perth do not require the development to intergrate with it's surrounding neighbourhood or have active street fronatges.

Malt
May 11th, 2005, 04:36 PM
Comparing these ri Riparian is stupid. Thats one of his better towers, alone with Cove.


This... is shockingly bad. The original newspaper scans didnt look that bad.


Let me explain my reasons.
1. There seems to be little consistancy in the design. It changes constantly (The balcony shapes, layouts etc) and it comes across to me as a mess.

At least all of his other towers have consistancy in their designs.

(Dont take this the wrong way you easily offended people)
I think maybe he had another stroke he didnt tell anyone about, and he had it while designing this.


Why did they throw out those original designs by.. who were they? MR or somehting.
Those were nice looking towers (although not as tall)


back to reasons..

2) The paint colour. Why does it have to be a yellow-white? why not the normal white of all his towers? at least that looks normal lol.



Overall these towers have the shitness of Brisbanes Admiralty district IMO.


Ill also add this: Seidler might have been a genious in the layout of the tower, i dont dispute that making everyone have river views is fantastic, but i dont know... couldnt he have saved the external design for someone else :P

Orfeo
May 12th, 2005, 02:03 AM
Pretty good.....I like the variety of the front of the towers, the sides less so.

Will really change the skyline.

CULWULLA
May 12th, 2005, 03:23 AM
hey malt, tell the board of architects on Seidler Associates your thoughts. they would laugh.lol
remember these guys know what there doing. just dont take the bldgs on face value.

Malt
May 12th, 2005, 03:31 AM
^

As I said, I dont dispute that they have done an amazing job in the layouts, but the outside is bad.

And they can laugh for all i care. I personally wonder how the developer can be impressed 100%.

The old design my M&L Was infinitely better

Dilaz89
May 12th, 2005, 03:52 PM
nah ml was shit.

Malt
May 12th, 2005, 03:56 PM
...... .... .. .


I think your just in denial because you got this instead. lol.

The ML ones were very good.

Malt
May 12th, 2005, 04:07 PM
Lookie, i put them all in 1 pic lol.

This is clearly better than Seidlers design.

I would want the ML ones in brisbane, whereas i would never want that seidler one here.

http://img230.echo.cx/img230/3758/mldesignswanpano4hz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

RocStar
May 12th, 2005, 07:21 PM
^^ hmmm....If we had to vote between Seilders design or ML, at first glance I would pick ML but after having a real close look at Seilders design, the ML towers kinda now seem ordinary. There seems to be a lot of curves in these two towers, and I’m not just talking about the balconies. It’s more evident in the 3rd pic. Having less consistency is what will draw u towards them.
.. Anyway I think this will be a case where the tower(s) actually turn out better than the render pic.
http://img224.echo.cx/img224/4853/emubrw9ix.jpg

Malt
May 13th, 2005, 04:30 AM
^ I would hope for Perths sake that they do.

The tallest ML tower resembles Aurora IMO.

NZer
May 13th, 2005, 07:11 AM
I think these would be better in the back of the skyline where they could bulk it up but not be so obvious in most views of the skyline.

It would be nice if the main view from the south could continue to remain free of tall residential buildings for good,they are just not as impressive as office towers imo.

Malt
May 14th, 2005, 03:29 AM
^ Eureka? Aurora? World Tower? Most of Vision?

well designed resi towers can easily compete with office towers.

BrizzyChris
May 14th, 2005, 06:01 AM
Although I slightly prefer ML Design's concept, neither really do it for me. I think no matter who designs it, there's is going to be a lot of concrete facing north.

JayT
May 14th, 2005, 11:42 AM
I think these would be better in the back of the skyline where they could bulk it up but not be so obvious in most views of the skyline.

It would be nice if the main view from the south could continue to remain free of tall residential buildings for good,they are just not as impressive as office towers imo.

I agree!

jt

Dilaz89
May 18th, 2005, 10:43 AM
ml looks like auroora in bisbane a bit cept about 50m difference. they are tacky and looked pretty shit.

the siedler ones will look good from the north and really really tall.

Malt
May 18th, 2005, 10:49 AM
^ That is insane denial.
If your implying Aurora is tacky and shit then your just pissed off because you got stuck with these 2 massive monstrosities.

Dilaz89
May 18th, 2005, 11:03 AM
im holding judgement so far to see how the will fit in. imo they have a very intersting desgin, just not colour.

Oriolus
May 18th, 2005, 11:09 AM
The ML towers aren't as tall as the Seidlers are they? Anyone have heights? Anyway from a design perspective, the ML towers are a great looking design that's not really going to offend anyone. The Seidlers, well, some will hate it, some will love it. Some (like me and probably most of the Perth forumers) will make themselves like it. Just like some in Brisbane would have made themselves like Riparian (Malt??) :D

Malt
May 18th, 2005, 11:17 AM
^ Lol.

I dont say Riparian is great. I say it is Acceptable. Better than i thought it would be.
Just as are most of Seidlers designs (I dot hate Shell in melb, like many do)

These arent normal Seidlers tho. Interpret that as a good thing or bad if u will...

His normal resi's have overlapping curved balcs which dont look too bad, but IMO these towers are just all over theplace. If thye had the default seidler balconies consistantly they wouldnt be as bad.

My opinion. The ML design ones would have complimented the skyline, these will detract form it.

Dilaz89
May 23rd, 2005, 01:21 PM
ml was 150 and 160 btw.

Citystyle
May 26th, 2005, 02:00 PM
^ Lol.

I dont say Riparian is great. I say it is Acceptable. Better than i thought it would be.
Just as are most of Seidlers designs (I dot hate Shell in melb, like many do)

These arent normal Seidlers tho. Interpret that as a good thing or bad if u will...

His normal resi's have overlapping curved balcs which dont look too bad, but IMO these towers are just all over theplace. If thye had the default seidler balconies consistantly they wouldnt be as bad.

My opinion. The ML design ones would have complimented the skyline, these will detract form it.

I totally agree about Rapian it has grown on you. Though it would never detract your skyline. If these are built it's at thewest end. past Qv1 and well i will reserve my final judgment or the final day. but all i can say is they wont look that bad.

Only problem is that perth is re-developing and replacing all the 60-70 stuff why build more of the stuff.

Perth4life14
May 26th, 2005, 02:32 PM
i dont get ur signature?

Citystyle
May 29th, 2005, 09:23 AM
i dont get ur signature?

Joh howard stoped a WA ALP MP who was in veitman and lost his leg from raising the australian flag at a school.

Perth4life14
May 29th, 2005, 09:35 AM
johnies a dickhed, yd he stop him?

sirhc8
May 29th, 2005, 09:46 AM
Joh howard stoped a WA ALP MP who was in veitman and lost his leg from raising the australian flag at a school.

Well, you've certainly spun that to suit your agenda. The reality is, Graham Edwards is a Labor MP and hence is trying to gain political mileage on the government (just as any opposition/government would do) - you've bought right into it.
It was a complete non-incident that only the most desperate Labor supporter would bother to bring up.

Dilaz89
May 30th, 2005, 03:49 PM
can we not have shitfights about hte fuking governemnt please!!!?!?!?!

Citystyle
May 30th, 2005, 09:12 PM
Well, you've certainly spun that to suit your agenda. The reality is, Graham Edwards is a Labor MP and hence is trying to gain political mileage on the government (just as any opposition/government would do) - you've bought right into it.
It was a complete non-incident that only the most desperate Labor supporter would bother to bring up.

Dictatorships also don’t allow opposition and thank you very much I am a democrat/Liberal Supporter but the liberal’s are good for nothing conservative’s.

I’m not a of Union’s but this government’s centralization is disgusting and none-Liberal.
I’m very Liberal but this government is not. I would support a real liberal Government any day.

Dilaz89
July 25th, 2005, 10:54 AM
this goes to the design comittee tomorrow night and if passed, will go to council next tuesday. The PCC are quite positive about it seems in the agendas.

Citystyle
July 25th, 2005, 12:30 PM
The PCC recomended that this gets the go ahead so this is probably the most promising chance yet.

RocStar
July 25th, 2005, 06:19 PM
Yep, Council 100% behind this....and as posted in the WA thread>>

Just some key points>

Tower 1 is a Y shape @ 52 lv 197.5m RL.
Tower 2 is a V shape @ 61 lv 224.3m RL.

Council says the buildings have international iconic status.

Mid level of both towers (above plant room) will have resident facilities which include 25m indoor/outdoor lap pool, spa pool, gym..meeting areas and get this, an outdoor BBQ area…how cool.

A 1.38 ha public plaza which incorporates a 4 lv commercial centre of shops/business/cafes/restaurants and tavern.(The plaza will occupy 74.5% of the sites total area)

“The focus of the plaza will be a cascading waterfall and lake that will utilise the natural ground water. The natural spring will bubble from the ground at the top of Mount st through jets enclosed in a 4 mtr high translucent glass box lit by the sun during day time and up lights at night. From the top of the glass box, the water will cascade down the southern glass face and flow over granite stairs and under stone bridges, until it reaches the lake on the plaza below. Public art in the form of sculptures, murals, mosaics and a heritage depiction will ensure the public places are interesting, educational and engaging”. :dizzy:

aussiescraperman
July 25th, 2005, 06:39 PM
what do you mean by Y shape??

RocStar
July 25th, 2005, 07:40 PM
Huh..The building is shaped like the letter Y.

aussiescraperman
July 25th, 2005, 08:06 PM
really? that's interesting...the renders i saw of it didn't look like Y's and V's.
But this is a great build for Perth, will look awesome from Kings' Park.

Dilaz89
July 27th, 2005, 11:35 AM
approved by comitee, now has to go to council then the wapc. 1/3 of the way there!:)

RocStar
July 27th, 2005, 06:31 PM
really? that's interesting...the renders i saw of it didn't look like Y's and V's.
But this is a great build for Perth, will look awesome from Kings' Park.
http://img224.echo.cx/img224/4853/emubrw9ix.jpg
If you look closely particularly at the 3rd pic, you can kinda make out the shapes..well atleast we know they aren’t boxed shape lol. They will look awesome from Kings Park, looking at their peculiar shape at eye level .

aussiescraperman
July 27th, 2005, 06:50 PM
oh yeah i see it...awesome!

Dilaz89
July 31st, 2005, 02:39 PM
Goes To Council Tuesday August 2nd

Citystyle
August 1st, 2005, 02:12 PM
TM cant wait. Whats the fasted you think you could get the result if there is one that is?

Dilaz89
August 2nd, 2005, 03:31 PM
APPROVED!!!

more pics and a short video coming soon.



**still needs wapc approval but its a sure thing!

Dilaz89
August 2nd, 2005, 04:19 PM
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3708/embr10pi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7062/embr25sd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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Citystyle
August 2nd, 2005, 04:39 PM
Approved what a releif.

Citystyle
August 2nd, 2005, 04:41 PM
what colour are they the pics are a bit dodgy but they look less yellow?

Citystyle
August 2nd, 2005, 04:51 PM
APPROVED!!!

more pics and a short video coming soon.



**still needs wapc approval but its a sure thing!

WAPC is dead set if the PCC approved it.

Grollo
August 2nd, 2005, 05:24 PM
They look like somebody has tried to flatten out to Marina City in Chicago with a hammer:

http://www.rion.nu/v5/post/121303/IMG_0145lg.jpg

CULWULLA
August 3rd, 2005, 01:17 AM
good stuff! looks like Swan brewery towers will get nick name-CORN COBS.but half easten compared to Chicagos marina city.lol
They look good on skyline.
lets get started!

pikey
August 3rd, 2005, 02:24 AM
Yob said it in another thread a while back..

"Honey, the 70's called, they want their shit back"

Sorry, I know height is everything, but, fuck, seriously, this will ruin the sleek looking perth skyline. Talk about a clusterfuck of a facade. It's amazing how Harry can design a tower is dated as soon as the intial render is released. There are other materials than beige concrete HS!!

Citystyle
August 3rd, 2005, 04:33 AM
I love them and they will look better in real life or high res render

Dilaz89
August 3rd, 2005, 10:00 AM
my scanner is crap. they look really good and fit in well.

uewepuep
August 3rd, 2005, 10:53 AM
lol. Keep telling yourselves that.

Perth4life
August 3rd, 2005, 11:22 AM
Yob said it in another thread a while back..

"Honey, the 70's called, they want their shit back"

Sorry, I know height is everything, but, fuck, seriously, this will ruin the sleek looking perth skyline. Talk about a clusterfuck of a facade. It's amazing how Harry can design a tower is dated as soon as the intial render is released. There are other materials than beige concrete HS!!

yer and adelaide has heeps of tall buildings........


did anyone watch rove last night? that comedian was talking about how he gets intimidated by the big buildings in adelaide haha (being sarchastic of course)


anways i quite like those ones in chicago.

Dilaz89
August 3rd, 2005, 02:12 PM
btw this was a 7-1 approval. the guy who oppsed it (max kay) said it looked like corn-cobs half eaten lol.

finn
August 4th, 2005, 07:41 AM
I absolutely love Chicago's corn-cobs - I stood for ages and stared at them when I visited last year just thinking how fantastic they look.

The Perth towers look brilliant IMHO - so sculptural and almost organic from some angles (especially from the north-side). I really hope they get built and that the apartment market doesn't completely collapse before they do. :)

pikey
August 4th, 2005, 08:47 AM
yer and adelaide has heeps of tall buildings........


did anyone watch rove last night? that comedian was talking about how he gets intimidated by the big buildings in adelaide haha (being sarchastic of course)


anways i quite like those ones in chicago.

^
Yer man you is right adlaide is crap we got not tall buildings, heeps nun of them yeah rove is from perth phat lol...

Being "sarchastic" of course.

Citystyle
August 4th, 2005, 09:26 AM
^
Yer man you is right adlaide is crap we got not tall buildings, heeps nun of them yeah rove is from perth phat lol...

Being "sarchastic" of course.

Translation?

Also people reserv judgement till video and or better quility pictures.

pikey
August 4th, 2005, 09:31 AM
^

Just have a look at who I quoted.

I agree with reserving judgement, and everything is opinion, I just think Perth deserves something better in such a prominent position.

Citystyle
August 4th, 2005, 09:49 AM
It wont be prominent in 30 year's so i see no problem with it. The design grows on you and the colour is at least white.

Pants
August 4th, 2005, 09:54 AM
yer and adelaide has heeps of tall buildings........


did anyone watch rove last night? that comedian was talking about how he gets intimidated by the big buildings in adelaide haha (being sarchastic of course)

What the fuck has this got to do with whether Pikey likes these two buildings or not?

Wezza
August 4th, 2005, 10:08 AM
Funny how certain people seem to like Siedler designs now............

Citystyle
August 4th, 2005, 10:21 AM
I have always liked HS designs, ive never liked Rappian becuase of the car park down the bottom and appartements up top the whole design seems odd.

I like the middle but the car park detracts from the buildings worth and official hight and looks ugly. I love QV1 and as far a fitting out a building it is the preimer office tower in Perth.

Citystyle
August 4th, 2005, 10:22 AM
Also alot of people in the WA forum dihave reservations about the towers design, but want it to go full steam ahead.

Wezza
August 4th, 2005, 11:33 AM
I have always liked HS designs, ive never liked Rappian becuase of the car park down the bottom and appartements up top the whole design seems odd.

I like the middle but the car park detracts from the buildings worth and official hight and looks ugly. I love QV1 and as far a fitting out a building it is the preimer office tower in Perth.
....

Malt
August 4th, 2005, 01:17 PM
^^^

Perth4life
August 4th, 2005, 01:47 PM
^
Yer man you is right adlaide is crap we got not tall buildings, heeps nun of them yeah rove is from perth phat lol...

Being "sarchastic" of course.

your an idiot, who taught you to read, i said "the comedian" not rove himself.

Perth4life
August 4th, 2005, 01:49 PM
btw he was a kiwin based in sydney.

uewepuep
August 4th, 2005, 03:06 PM
lol! pikey you need to insult people that will actually realise what you're insulting them about. Now he just thinks your down with it!

Citystyle
August 4th, 2005, 03:12 PM
....
Make a point or go away. Rapian Looks like a mess, is what im saying spazz.

RocStar
August 4th, 2005, 05:50 PM
He actually made 4 points ….get it:D

This pic is got to be close to the mark more so to what they will look like.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/752/02080517333nx.jpg

pikey
August 5th, 2005, 12:22 AM
your an idiot, who taught you to read, i said "the comedian" not rove himself.

Tell you what, you start actually posting something worthwhile, I'll send you some money so you can buy yourself a new Wu-Tang tracksuit.

Now, be a good boy and don't forget to take your Ritalin.

pikey
August 5th, 2005, 03:24 AM
Updated render from Seidler

http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL343/2004633/3879099/107123511.jpg

Malt
August 5th, 2005, 10:41 AM
nice job lol. you made me laugh :D

Perth4life
August 5th, 2005, 12:47 PM
Tell you what, you start actually posting something worthwhile, I'll send you some money so you can buy yourself a new Wu-Tang tracksuit.

Now, be a good boy and don't forget to take your Ritalin.

yer man send it to 313 phatdawg street, THE HOOD , Perth, W.A postcode DAWG (special postcode coz we straight up gangstaz)

haha, yer im like the biggest wutanger in the the world :sleepy:



found a picture of adelaides very impressive tall skyline...

http://www.gold-net.com.au/archivemagazines/mar02/survival2.jpg

Malt
August 5th, 2005, 12:54 PM
Reminds me of last time this happened...


Heres somehting in defence of adelaide...

Perths high quality, tallest building:
http://www.rosenblatt-sf.com/Selected_Photos/Shack%20(1976).jpg

Perth4life
August 5th, 2005, 01:01 PM
found one of the adelaide suburbs

http://www2.okstorms.com:8080/images/20000903001.jpg




id heard about there freeways but when i searched i could find any pics, haha.

Malt
August 5th, 2005, 03:16 PM
well if your going to continue sinking lower...

Ill go about as low as you possibly can (and lame)

http://www.bioedonline.org/hot-topics/images/mad-cow-040121.jpg
ya mum.





(any dipshit who takes me seriously deserves a ban from the forums)

Citystyle
August 5th, 2005, 03:57 PM
Updated render from Seidler

http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL343/2004633/3879099/107123511.jpg

Awsome look better than his original. It's also on the freeway?

Citystyle
August 5th, 2005, 04:01 PM
Tell you what, you start actually posting something worthwhile, I'll send you some money so you can buy yourself a new Wu-Tang tracksuit.

Now, be a good boy and don't forget to take your Ritalin.

Sounds like some one has some Mu-Tang Past. Perthforlife is nothing like that.

Citystyle
August 5th, 2005, 04:03 PM
Reminds me of last time this happened...


Heres somehting in defence of adelaide...

Perths high quality, tallest building:
http://www.rosenblatt-sf.com/Selected_Photos/Shack%20(1976).jpg

Smile and wave. :)

!!!STOP THIS CRAP NOW!!!

pikey
August 5th, 2005, 06:09 PM
Awsome look better than his original. It's also on the freeway?

Somethings gotta stop people leaving.

Malt
August 6th, 2005, 02:22 AM
lol citystyle :D

Perth4life
August 6th, 2005, 04:52 PM
bahahahahha i didnt realize it was on the freeway... least we have freeways..

Malt
August 6th, 2005, 05:27 PM
Stop being a twat PATTY.
Insulting someone elses city is the perfect way to start an un-nessacary arguement

Citystyle
August 6th, 2005, 06:27 PM
Somethings gotta stop people leaving.

Funny freeways dont lead out of the city just around it.