How much space atop Petronas does the spire take up? I subtracted 50m and thought that was ample. :p
petronas height

How much space atop Petronas does the spire take up? I subtracted 50m and thought that was ample. :p
petronas height WITHOUT spires are 379m. thus 73m spires!

whoa the top of the tower will be uberwindy

Kaz, make sure you post your management professor's pics, it seems this year's cityscape is probably the most interesting cityscape ever.

He let me see pics although he won't share them :/
But he is sharing his seminar notes (irrelevant):

http://www.scar.utoronto.ca/~bovaird/a02/2004-Fall/Dubai%20speech.htm

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

http://www.alkhaleej.ae/dak/images/2004/12/17/eq-2.jpg

الصحافة الأمريكية تشيد بـ "مسار التميز" العمراني في الإمارة
برج دبي أعلى بمرتين من "بتروناس" ويتفوق على "برج الحرية"


حظي مشروع "برج دبي" باهتمام اعلامي دولي واسع النطاق كونه البرج الأطول في العالم، حيث ذكرت بعض الصحف العالمية ان طوله يصل إلى 800 متر نظراً لتصميمه شديد التميز.

وذكرت صحيفة “التايمز” البريطانية أن برج دبي تفوق على مشروع مدينة نيويورك لبناء أطول برج في العالم وهو برج الحرية الذي من المقرر تشييده مكان مركز التجارة العالمي الذي تعرض للدمار في سبتمبر/ أيلول ،2001 في حين أكدت “جيزمو” الاسترالية أن المشروع يعكس مسار التميز الذي تسير عليه مشاريع العمران الجديدة في دبي التي نجحت في التحول إلى مركز سياحي وتجاري حيوي يستقطب ملايين الزوار سنوياً. وتحدثت المجلة عن تفرد دبي ومشاريعها العمرانية العملاقة بداية من مشاريع النخلة إلى العالم ودبي لاند وغيرها من المشاريع التي ترسخ الدور الريادي للمدينة.

وبدورها تحدثت “نورث جيرسي الأمريكية” عن مشاريع دبي والسرعة القياسية التي تمضي بها الثورة العمرانية الجديدة للإمارة. وأكدت أن مشروع “برج دبي” سرق الأضواء من مشروع برج الحرية العملاق الذي تجعل منه المقارنة قزماً أمام برج دبي.

ونقلت المجلة عن اليزابيث كوباني المتحدثة باسم شركة سكيد مور أوينجز أند ميريل، أكبر شركات الهندسة العمرانية المختصة في بناء أطول أبراج العالم أن الشركة لم تعد تعتمد برج الحرية نموذجاً في حديثها عن الأبراج الأطول.

يشار إلى أن البرج الأطول في العالم اليوم هو برج سي إن في تورنتو وطوله 553 مترا، ويليه برج بتروناس التوأم في كوالالمبور ويبلغ طوله 452 مترا وقد شيد البرج عام 1998. وينتظر أن يحطم برج تايبيه 101 الرقم القياسي كثاني أطول برج في العالم، حيث من المقرر أن يصل طوله إلى 508 أمتار.

ويصل طول مبنى الإمباير ستيت في نيويورك والذي شيد عام 1931 إلى 381 متراً، أما كناري وارف في لندن فطوله 237 مترا.

ويشكل “برج دبي” جزءاً رئيسياً من مشروع وسط مدينة دبي الذي يمتد على مساحة تصل إلى 500 فدان وتقدر تكاليف إنشائه بأكثر من 8 مليارات دولار.

وسيضم البرج وحدات سكنية وتجارية وفندقاً ومكاتب ومحلات تسلية وترفيه ومساحات خضراء مفتوحة وشلالات ونوافير مياه وطرقاً خاصة بالمشاة ومدينة قديمة وأكبر مركز للتسوق في العال

does it mean they now say the present height is 900, like they have done it with the 800 a couple of weeks ago?

because the text still mentions the 800!

what does it mean exactly?

well the title says , Burh Dubai to soar at double the high of Petranos

the sentance in the article that has the 800 meter figure goes like this

" .....where some international magazines mentioned that the tower could reach a height of 800 meters "

ignore it :) coz the title is what matters , maybe it was a typo .

excited about what they will say in 2 months:
burj dubai to double taipei 101
imagine they keep releasing new heights till the very end of construction, it will be 4km tall :lol:

No , now that would be pure UGLY , in my opinion 1 km is the absaloute limits

EXCEPT

if the build ATLEAST ten to twenty - 450 meter towers below it :)

http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/burj_dubai2.gif
I hope that this is old rendering :sleepy:

I'm watching all the amazing stuff going on with Burj Dubai. It looks like I'll have to add UAE to my vacation destinations by the end of the decade, with all that's happening.

Let me suggest that it may be possible to extrapolate the height of Burj Dubai once they finish building up to the first two setbacks. By counting the number of stories between the setbacks (setbacks going in a spiral as the building is being built), one can then extrapolate the number of stories, assuming the setbacks continue predictably every certain number of floors, assuming a tall "pyramid" skyscraper.

An estimate may not be perfectly accurate, but we may be able to extrapolate to an approx ~100m accuracy once, say, maybe, the first 40-50 stories are built, based on how many stories tall between the setbacks are, and how many 'towers within towers' there are, n the 3-spoke design.

This skyscraper design, clearly, is a very flexible one. It looks like you can "build in" the ability to increase/decrease the height of the building while it's still under construction, simply by adding more stories to the top of the setbacks before the top of the setback is built, assuming structural strength is there. Keeping even the construction workers confused and keeping out leaks.

Perhaps it will have an 800m roof height with 900m including spire. Using the former is fair considering the Petronas vs. Sears spire debate.

Emaar names contractor for $1 billion Burj Dubai

Alabbar with Kim Kye Ho, executive vice-president of Samsung
The main contract to build the world’s tallest tower, Burj Dubai, has been awarded to the Samsung-Besix-Arabtec JV.

Speculation that the joint venture company would be successful had been rife in the market since early September, but up until last week the final agreement had yet to be signed. Commenting on Samsung’s role in the JV, Mohamed Ali Alabbar, chairman of Emaar, developer of the Burj Dubai, said: “Samsung Corporation has been awarded this contract because it matches Emaar’s global quality standards and processes, which have become benchmarks for developers around the world.

“The company has an impeccable reputation and unrivalled expertise in constructing tall towers. The tower represents the next stage of growth for Emaar and will be the basis for future developments and act as a signpost for the ambitions of the region.”

Meanwhile, the Burj Dubai, which could eventually top 800 metres, is going to cost an estimated US $1 billion to build, according to Emaar. Construction is already well underway. Chicago-based Skidmore, Owings & Merrill (SOM) has designed it and Turner International Construction is project and construction manager. The contract to build the structure of the tower was awarded to the JV following an 11 month process that began earlier this year and involved bids from major global contractors in joint ventures with local operations.

Middle East Foundations and Bauer did the piling work for the tower and Nasa Multiplex completed the raft. Construction of the tower from the ground up will now be taken up by the joint venture, whose members all now have some experience of high-rise construction: Samsung in Korea, Besix with Emirates Towers and Arabtec at Jumeirah Beach Residence.

Burj Dubai will combine residential and commercial space, and will include a boutique hotel, recreational facilities, serviced residences, apartments and an observatory. It will be the centrepiece of a US $8 billion residential and commercial district, known as ‘Downtown Dubai.’ This will include the Dubai Mall, currently being built by the Dutco Balfour Beatty - Al Ghandi Consolidated Contracting Co. JV, which is likely to be the world’s largest retail complex, a 3.5 km boulevard, The Residences and The Old Town.

The Burj Dubai’s base will rise upward in a series of steps and it is composed of three elements arranged around a central core. The tower thins out as it reaches towards the sky and it has been designed to reduce potential wind effects.

A high performance exterior cladding system will be employed to withstand the extreme temperatures during Dubai’s summer months. Primary materials include reflective glazing, aluminum and textured stainless steel panels, as well as vertical stainless tubular fins designed to accentuate the height and slenderness of the tower.

Burj Dubai will have to outdo some stiff competition to earn the mantle of world’s tallest building. The current champion is the 509 m Taipei 101 in Taiwan. It was completed this year. Though expectations are that Burj Dubai will soar to 810 m, the height has never been confirmed and Emaar is likely to allow for an increase in height during construction if required.

I wouldn't consider T101 "stiff" competition.

I wouldn't consider T101 "stiff" competition.

Don't disrespect the WTB!

nvm ;)

Don't disrespect the WTB!
But the difference is so great! It would be stiff completion for a half-completed Burj... :p

It doesn't matter how big BD gets, it does not take away the work, effort, and accomplishment of Taipei 101, Empire State, Sears Tower, or any other WTB. Just as the next WTB after BD will not take away the uniquness of BD being WTB for X years.

agreed STR

you can see burj dubai and the business bay !!!
http://www.ayuplanet.com/smussuw/Image(101).jpg

That's absolutely incredible! Aren't there villas where business bay is? Actually, isn't that a large chunk of Jumeira? This sure does make the Marina look small!

That's absolutely incredible! Aren't there villas where business bay is? Actually, isn't that a large chunk of Jumeira? This sure does make the Marina look small!

No, no, Shaik Zayed Road is on the left hand side but not visible on the render. What is missing is actually the DIFC by if you see carefully on the top left side you can see the shadows of SZR towers.

Has anyone heard of this tower or do we have a thread for it already? I noticed it in Gulf News and the title is "5 star burj dubai serviced apartments"

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/sahmad/5star.JPG

Yeah thats the 60 story hotel :) i think there is a thread out there somewhere , anyhow , good night all

construction pics of the mother of towers :D

all 3 pics taken from the residences sales center

the base will be incredibly massive! the hole is about 200m wide!

the left end of the site with the residences in the background
http://www.ayuplanet.com/dxblover/Construction/Burj Dubai/december2004-1.jpg


a wider shot of the site with al mualla and nuaimi tower in the background on sheikh zayed road
http://www.ayuplanet.com/dxblover/Construction/Burj Dubai/december2004-2.jpg


construction on the deepest level of the tower :D
http://www.ayuplanet.com/dxblover/Construction/Burj Dubai/december2004-3.jpg

its like that mcdonald's ad...... I'M LOVIN' IT!

Keep em comin Dubai Lover... great job

:runaway: :eek2: :runaway:

thx Dubai-Lover for the amazing pics :)

WOW!!!! FInally som pics!!!!!!!!

construction pics of the mother of towers :D

AWESOME!!11

Dubai is gonna be the Manhattan of the East

Any more news lately?

Nope. Waiting for Samsung to sort things out and start constructing this monster thing.

Ok here they are. I got to enter the BD site on my last trip to Dubai and these are the pictures that I took. The base is MASSIVE! To try and show you guys just how humongous the base is, I have tried to make a panaromic out of my images. Also I will upload a video clip of the construction site once I get back to the states sometime next week.

PLEASE DO NOT LEAK THESE PHOTOS OR USE THEM IN ANY WAY WITHOUT MY PERMISSION.

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/sahmad/0burjbase1.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/sahmad/0burjbase2.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/sahmad/0burjbase3.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/sahmad/0burjbase4.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/sahmad/0burjbase5.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/sahmad/0burjbase6.jpg

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/sahmad/0burjbase7.jpg

View from far (standing in level with top of the hole).... This is where the monster will have its base floor....
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/sahmad/0burjbase8.jpg

Panaromic:
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/sahmad/0burjbase9.jpg

Clips from the video:
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/sahmad/0burjbase91.JPG

Woaaaaaaaaaaaaaah , May i leak them at SSP ?

Sure, but please make sure you specify NOT TO USE IN ANY WEBSITE PUBLICATIONS OR MAGAZINES/NEWSPAPERS.... in short any sort of Media. Sorry for acting like this but I have no choice, the man who helped me access the site trusted me and I trust you guys.

wow, amazing work getting these!
well done, that hole is huge!

there doesnt look to be too much work going on when you took the photos, or were you there on a friday?

yup it was friday morning.

I also learned that construction is gonna pick up pace real fast once tons and tons of steel arrives in a month's time.

wish i was here to see it rise!

you deserve a medal mate
post them in the burj dubai update thread and make these people lose their minds!!! :eek:

Krazy, yuou should put a watermark and logo into the pictures as well as the warning text, so they can't be used by others as their's.

Ok I dont know how to do any of that :( Help from anybody?

welll dont post them any where till you do that
i can do it like 12 hours when i get to work

can hardly see the other side of that base wow !

Ok thanks Trances. Will wait for that!

thanks for the great update Krazy! :)

All props to my girl Ruminative from ssp for taking me to the site!

who'r Ruminative? and why doesnt she post here?

too lazy :)

well put little water marks with you name and the claim on them
hope thats enough and looks ok
but dont know where to send them !

well i am going home email them to my self let know your address or where you want them by PM

thanks Trances. I just PMed you.

amazing pics ... thats the whale of all holes......... u can actualy fit all the 6 towers in the background in them

Enough towers already?

back to topic now!!!

Thank goodness for Dubai-Lover

Can someone remind me when this is due for completion?

Trances, got your mail but the attachment is corrupt. Can you post the pictures here please?

Can someone remind me when this is due for completion?

As mentioned in the first post by Trances, the completion date is set for Late 2007 to 2008. Unless it has changed since then? Personally I find it hard to believe that such a massive structure will be completed in 3 years.

I cant post here
i dont have any web space

Ok do you think you can mail the pics again? Coz for some reason it says attachment is corrupt

Just got the pics Trances, will replace them now.

Just got them back up here as well as the projects and updates thread of BD... thanks a lot Trances!

Hope it not to crap but it should do the job of slowing people down and making them a little lest fit to spread around. Still you cant stop people and like some of the photos that end up here your great images will also make rounds

look what ive found in ssp by building@hk

http://image.p-share.com/all/fun/directlink?id=NDAxMDAyMzY=&image=MjIyemo5aG5jRm4uSlBH

http://image.p-share.com/all/fun/directlink?id=NDAxMDAyMzY=&image=MjIyY2dRTjJmSDIuSlBH

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

Anyone care to join me in camping at the top of those Emmar towers, and watching it grow every day???

Anyone care to join me in camping at the top of those Emmar towers, and watching it grow every day???


me

:lol:

me too
let me just earn some fast money and i'll buy the dusit hotel and the residences! :D

AWESOME

looks like the base is about 80m wide if you see the ants worrking :lol:

:eek: amazing pics...:eek:

http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/burj_dubai.jpg
:D

Anyone else hear that Nakeel are planning a 850m tower ... i.e. bigger than this one?!

Fantastic pictures!!!

HOLY CHRIST IT"S COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nakheel is going to build a tower that should compete with Burj Dubai for the WTB title on Palm Jumeirah and they say they're gonna build and ever bigger one on Palm Jebel Ali.

Not forgetting the behemoth of the business bay of course!!!

ooooo MY holly god!! im gunna start to cry

*hands a tissue*

Do you think there will be any apartments available to buy on the Burj Dubai around 2009? (probably on the resale market)

amazing :eek2:

i have added some of krazy's construction photos to the portal
thanks once again!

no problem D-L

my avatar has gone :badnews: time for a new one *sobs in memorium*

I guess that the current competition will be between Pinnacle and Burj Dubai and the next competition would be between Tower of Palm Jebel Ali and Tower of Business Bay

I guess that the current competition will be between Pinnacle and Burj Dubai and the next competition would be between Tower of Palm Jebel Ali and Tower of Business Bay
Well said.

I think it’s safe to say that we are looking at the entire foundation of the tower in these new aerials from SSP. If you compare it to the diagram previously released by SOM, you can clearly see the steel rebar where the central core, wing core and outer nose columns will be located:

http://www.graffitibiz.com/f_diagram.jpg

It also looks to be the same width as the tower is, if you disregard the base:

http://www.graffitibiz.com/burj_const.jpg

What I think is amazing is how small a floor plate this tower will have. I can only imagine what little usable space they will have left after the tower rises. Has anyone read an estimate of sq. footage this tower is supposed to occupy? I'd venture a guess that it's considerably less than say, Taipei 101.

I think that you might be seeing the effects of the height of this building affecting its usable space. Imagine if there is an upper limit to how much square footage a building can realistically contain. In order to build at such heights, while staying within this limit, they would have to make the floor plates quite small. This is just speculation on my part.

I certainly can't wait to see the steel rise on this beast!

huge
how did i miss these for over a week
guess i never here any more
but keep coming back to huge changes like this !
great shots and images works
as far as usable space goes any idea on express lifts, Sky lobbies and the like yet

Consortium begins work on Burj Dubai

Dubai : Construction of Burj Dubai the world's tallest tower has begun, said company officials.

The bid for the work was won by the consortium comprising Samsung Corporation of South Korea, Besix Constructions of Belgium and local Arabtec.

The building is slated to be completed in December 2008.

Arabtec Construction LLC, one of the leading organisations in the construction industry, has been forging ahead in the market with its aggressive growth strategy and its significant expansion plans.

The company's other recent projects include the 21st Century Tower (the world's tallest residential building), Dubai Pearl Movenpick Hotel, Silicon Oasis, Arabian Ranches, The Meadows, Jumeirah Beach Residence, Al Fattan Marine Towers and many more.

Arabtec has also successfully pre-qualified as part of a consortium for the proposed Dubai Light Railway project. With the anticipated value of the Dubai Light Rail project being set at $4 billion (Dh14.69 billion), the consortium collectively known as Metro One will bring together some of the biggest names in the industry, including Bombardier (Canada), Odebrecht (Brazil), Guris (Turkey), Ghella Group (Italy) and Parsons (USA).

Riad Kamal, managing director of Arabtec, said: "It is a great honour to be working on such a prestigious venture with such an excellent team of international professionals who will bid for the region's first mass transportation system. "The Dubai Government initiative is set to be a landmark development that will place the emirate on an international platform for its state-of-the-art infrastructure and its future vision."

The Dubai Light Rail project is about 70 km rail network that will span the business district of Dubai. A maximum payload of 40-50,000 passengers per hour can travel on the railway network, which is set to open in 2009.

Consortium begins work on Burj Dubai

Dubai : Construction of Burj Dubai the world's tallest tower has begun, said company officials.
The bid for the work was won by the consortium comprising Samsung Corporation of South Korea, Besix Constructions of Belgium and local Arabtec.

The building is slated to be completed in December 2008.

Arabtec Construction LLC, one of the leading organisations in the construction industry, has been forging ahead in the market with its aggressive growth strategy and its significant expansion plans.

The company's other recent projects include the 21st Century Tower (the world's tallest residential building), Dubai Pearl Movenpick Hotel, Silicon Oasis, Arabian Ranches, The Meadows, Jumeirah Beach Residence, Al Fattan Marine Towers and many more.

Arabtec has also successfully pre-qualified as part of a consortium for the proposed Dubai Light Railway project. With the anticipated value of the Dubai Light Rail project being set at $4 billion (Dh14.69 billion), the consortium collectively known as Metro One will bring together some of the biggest names in the industry, including Bombardier (Canada), Odebrecht (Brazil), Guris (Turkey), Ghella Group (Italy) and Parsons (USA).

Riad Kamal, managing director of Arabtec, said: "It is a great honour to be working on such a prestigious venture with such an excellent team of international professionals who will bid for the region's first mass transportation system. "The Dubai Government initiative is set to be a landmark development that will place the emirate on an international platform for its state-of-the-art infrastructure and its future vision."

The Dubai Light Rail project is about 70 km rail network that will span the business district of Dubai. A maximum payload of 40-50,000 passengers per hour can travel on the railway network, which is set to open in 2009.

just would like to what does "construction started" mean? :ohno:

does it mean arabtec will continue work from now on?

so probably what we've seen is the real base of the tower

i hate these articles

^ Since a couple of days there are some 4 - 5 cranes up at the site. Other ground proccesing machineries are around as well.

things are about to get exiting, may only be a couple of weeks before we see the first floor. :):):):):):)

^It think you mean exciting. ;)

The best I could do.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p754aef999e5c2a741733f3651d2d8504/f53a89ba.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p1464c950eb94e2509d708bf1bb1084e1/f53a4de8.jpg

Hi guys I was at the burj site yesterday with a bbc crew who are ding a docu about tall buildings. I managed to get several photos around the site. You wont believe some of them.
Will get them up in the next couple of days.
stay tuned

cant wait!

fantastic
so many guys doing so much for the forum :okay:

Yes that is really cool...
i think we know more about tower development than every other guy there outside in dubai...
I think we all should become property agents or what...ot travel guides..
explain every tourist where which tower is , how tall... hehe :sleepy: :okay:

and STR i think you mean i not it, easy to make spelling mistakes with a keyboard.. don't criticise

Looking forward to pics :D

cant wait to see the pics DubaiDave!

Muwahahhhaha :)

Zooming-in on a picture i posted earlier:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/pee5a2b5bb804d407afbd42ebce9a6a39/f5353ac1.jpg


cranes, cranes, cranes ... :cheers:

I like the Burj Dubai! I think it's one of the most beatiful buildings I ever see!
But it's really high 800 metres ? I don't believe in it, wow!!!!!
I like this city........ :)

^ Forget what they tell you about 800 and 900m Sonic.... this baby is gonna be more than a kilometer tall (by my prediction :D) !

Zooming-in on a picture i posted earlier:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/pee5a2b5bb804d407afbd42ebce9a6a39/f5353ac1.jpg


cranes, cranes, cranes ... :cheers:

Altind, those cranes are part of the downtown development surrounding the Burj Dubai. Many projects are expected to rise very soon, including the Burj tower...the area will start getting dense as many contracts are being processed simultaneously.
Dubai lover, the JV (samsung/besix/arabtec) are right now mobilising at site and construction of the basement is expected to begun mid march. The raft foundation is nearly complete with the contractors NasaMX topping out the raft in a few days.
cheerz

Duboy!!! Finally! Why do you keep disappearing like that, its impossible to contact you!? Ever since you mentioned BB's revised plans and then disappeared, i almost went crazy trying to find out more about it. Please leave (PM) an email or something.

Anyways, thank you for the info. Does that mean that soon we'll start hearing announcements of towers in New Downtown other than those by Emaar? If so, is there any more information you can reveal about those contracts?

Btw, where did you see the model of Business Bay's proposed WTB?

just wondering what raft foundation means
someone has to explain please

My god, 900 metres ?!?! Incredible!!! :)
A good start for Dubai!!

start?
start of the vision has already been several years ago...

but ,why now there are a lot of towers under construction in Dubai?

just wondering what raft foundation means
someone has to explain please

Raft foundations

Raft foundations are used to spread the load from a structure over a large area, normally the entire area of the structure. They are used when column loads or other structural loads are close together and individual pad foundations would interact.

A raft foundation normally consists of a concrete slab which extends over the entire loaded area. It may be stiffened by ribs or beams incorporated into the foundation.

Raft foundations have the advantage of reducing differential settlements as the concrete slab resists differential movements between loading positions. They are often needed on soft or loose soils with low bearing capacity as they can spread the loads over a larger area.

http://fbe.uwe.ac.uk/public/geocal/foundations/Fountype.htm#RAFT

but ,why now there are a lot of towers under construction in Dubai?

Forse di piu di quelle sotto costruzzione in tutta Italia. :cheers:

^I know, Dubai is the city with the highest number of skyscrapers under onstruction in the world! :)
TROPPO BELLA DUBAI!

Raft foundations

Raft foundations are used to spread the load from a structure over a large area, normally the entire area of the structure. They are used when column loads or other structural loads are close together and individual pad foundations would interact.

A raft foundation normally consists of a concrete slab which extends over the entire loaded area. It may be stiffened by ribs or beams incorporated into the foundation.

Raft foundations have the advantage of reducing differential settlements as the concrete slab resists differential movements between loading positions. They are often needed on soft or loose soils with low bearing capacity as they can spread the loads over a larger area.

http://fbe.uwe.ac.uk/public/geocal/foundations/Fountype.htm#RAFT


Unfoutunately you are mistaken on this point, the raft foundation will be an actual raft, due to the enormous amount of water that will be surrounding the Burj Dubai. (Businss bay, the artificial lake etc.) here's a picture to prove my point, taken with the Palm Deira in the foreground.

http://photos4.flickr.com/4468410_aeabccc0cf.jpg

not sure if i should laugh or cry...
the poor burj has to suffer such jokes... :jk:

:bash: dont fool the burj dubai and our palm projects! :bash:




hhehe :cheers: anyway...in the end it was funny...nice picture...
perhaps we should post it in the world forum as serious project... :runaway:
:bleh: :hahaha: :yes:

haha.

Finite, you werent interviewed today to become a comedian, were you?

Hi guys I was at the burj site yesterday with a bbc crew who are ding a docu about tall buildings. I managed to get several photos around the site. You wont believe some of them.
Will get them up in the next couple of days.
stay tuned

I can't wait no more :hammer:

oh yeah, almost forgot about those photos, DubaiDave, where are they?

:soon: i hope!

To damp out the vibrations caused by 190-kilometre-an-hour winds swirling around the building’s pinnacle, it will be made of poured concrete mixed with blast furnace slag and microsilicates, a material almost as strong as cast iron but more resistant to vibration, and will numerous setbacks and wings, creating 18 different sections, each of which disrupts the wind differently.

but what if juiced wants to dry his knickers by hanging them out of the window?

interesting materials though!

"but what if juiced wants to dry his knickers by hanging them out of the window?"

lol.

seems like what we have seen in the site pics really is only the core!!!

this is from the som website, check bold text


The super tall Burj Dubai will be the centerpiece of a large scale mixed-use development being developed by Emaar Properties PJSC of Dubai, which will combine residential, commercial, hotel, entertainment, shopping and leisure outlets with open green spaces, water features, pedestrian boulevards, a shopping mall and a tourist-oriented old town.

The design of Burj Dubai is derived from the geometries of the desert flower, which is indigenous to the region, and the patterning systems embodied in Islamic architecture. It combines historical and cultural influences with cutting edge technology to achieve a high-performance building which will set the new standard for development in the Middle East and become the model for the future of the city.

The tower is composed of three elements arranged around a central core. As the tower rises from the flat desert base, setbacks occur at each element in an upward spiraling pattern, decreasing the mass of the tower as it reaches toward the sky. At the top, the central core emerges and is sculpted to form a finishing spire. A Y-shaped floor plan maximizes views of the Persian Gulf.

The design was selected as the winning entry of an invited design competition for the tower held by Emaar Properties PJSC of Dubai early 2003. Construction started in January 2004 and will be completed at the end of 2009.

Oh my good... it will be soo huge...
you remember this pic dazz made with the tower on the core / the floor plate ( we did not know at that time)?

http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/burj_dubai.jpg


It looked soo big, compared to SZR Towers or Emirates Tower .
Now imagine this was way too small, as the 3 Elements were considered as floor plate by dazz!
Now think about this picture will look like if what we see now is just the core...
:eek2:
Post this in World Forum immidiately please!! :)

hey, i have some nice pix of dubai marina , and i would like to post them. i tried but it says tht i cannot do tht, so if anyone knows how to fix it , tell me how. cheers...

Try asking in Sky Majlis

I dont think what we have seen so far is just the core of this building. The photo and plan originally posted by Aural INK (below) clearly shows that what has already been built conforms perfectly with the floor plan issued by SOM. The central core is the hexagonal shaped structure defined by the rebar where the 3 elements converge. It may seem smaller than could be expected for a building of this scale but believe me...its a heck of a big core! Also don't forget that each wing has its own core which is shown on the plan too so an awful lot of the floorplace is going to be eaten up by the service cores.

http://www.graffitibiz.com/f_diagram.jpg

mhm not sure if this is correct...
actually i think what we see is the core....
but if you look on the plan, you can cearly see the shape is pretty much the same as of the floors, but way smaller of course.
So if this is the floor plate, wher is the core? i do not think it will directly built on the plate without any hole or something.So it must be the core!
is it possibly for somebody to ask at sales center...so that that clear finally...

i think thats the entire base, but i think the first 60 or so loors will have a wider floor plan. theyve gone so deep! this is soo much deeper than the emirates towers site was, probably close to twice the depth. [obviously this one needs to be deeper]. perhaps the outer wings will be attached to this base at higher levals of the foundation.

so we can come together when we say this is the base-core? :drunk:

I dont think what we have seen so far is just the core of this building. The photo and plan originally posted by Aural INK (below) clearly shows that what has already been built conforms perfectly with the floor plan issued by SOM. The central core is the hexagonal shaped structure defined by the rebar where the 3 elements converge. It may seem smaller than could be expected for a building of this scale but believe me...its a heck of a big core! Also don't forget that each wing has its own core which is shown on the plan too so an awful lot of the floorplace is going to be eaten up by the service cores.

larven, finally, a voice of reason! If anything, I think the first 5-10 floors will be wider than what we see here, but this is it folks.


so we can come together when we say this is the base-core?

Maybe as good as we get until the steel goes up! :cheers:

different opinions everywhere
this summer will tell the truth!!

:soon:
mhm this summer will tell us a lot i think... ! :)

Something I whipped up for another thread. I though you would all like it:

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/7293/bdother7pj.jpg

BD roof (not spire) is at about 710m in the diagram.

^ Wow, it's pretty easy to note the SOM similarities between the Sears and the Burj.

The burj looks very sexy in that image!

^if sears' hadas many setbacks as burj it'd be huuuuuuuuuuge

The burj looks very sexy in that image!

Of course it does. I literally took it straight from a SOM rendering. Every other diagram I've seen so far widens BD and makes it look far too fat. BD will be thin and narrow, period.

Tsss, HOT! Tsss, HOT!!!

thin and narrow, yet looking stable and elegant. almost castle like!

This first set of pics is from the Burj Dubai Sales office. It includes a mock up elevator and appartment.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/pbd780fed081a2f38d111798728c2ff64/f5229f1d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p6a7fe6f8c59fde14f33f313edd88df66/f5229f44.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p8ec515617c7f75cd5d8f264e0a581f26/f5229f23.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/pfbd3735de0976425d71de843361206c7/f5229f55.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/pc2fad5671fec2b40cc770996f8d29546/f5229f49.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p6193bbb1ecc67c0dc79452abb0365bb7/f5229f63.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p402a2b78b2711343f7681a1f9fa2e025/f5229f72.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p7c9c1990e156f2e90cbbf3cb98885d83/f5229f65.jpg

Stay tuned for update 2 in a minute

Heres shot os the residential towers and, of course, the view from the top.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p5b852ff5015ef8fb76aea9d3a716840d/f5229f2e.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p6c34464e74525e0e549d1d48e66a7f1b/f5229f4b.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p6ddd421804e929b40c7717193532d973/f5229f76.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/pe06bcd4e336ddb086e81b1d2871c2614/f5229f70.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/pc19b73172e109c9f744687759bcc7339/f5229f51.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p11883ca99783121c02598f9c1df4f6f5/f5229f69.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p487957b24bc043fa1194096098b5ad43/f5229f5e.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p0a40e6f5179e9ccde079e9421402f43e/f5229f31.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p76a8ad7011d5e0703de4abf7197f3b6d/f5229f58.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p07f122e05b0b4d6375caca7caaa987ef/f5229f24.jpg

Thats your ot.

enjoy

The site seems to remain silent, hopefully the main contractor, Samsung would move in soon. I'm excited, especially after seeing that Model!!! :eek:

YOUR THE MAN DUBAI DAVE

one more thing guys , do you remeber if the last set of photos of the foundation had steel bars sticking out of it ?

ok whos good at estimating heights from images???

theres a picture from thesales centre of a model of burj dubai going up 2 floors (this s cool) THere are a few buildings on the left hand side, does anyone know their height? I reckon Burj in this image is about four times the height of the tallest, anyone wanna try guessing the height?

Great photos DubaiDave thanks...

Looking at the base closely, not much has changed since the previous photo of the base was posted last month.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/AltTabDXB/burjbaseA.jpg
Originally posted on Jan 18th by smussuw/building@hk

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/AltTabDXB/burjbaseB.jpg
Posted by DubaiDave 14th Feb

AltTab

Bit clearer photo of model

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/AltTabDXB/burj1.jpg
Photo by DubaiDave.


AltTab

it is beautiful

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

:eek2: :eek: :eek2: :eek: :eek2: :eek: :eek2: :eek: :eek2: :eek: :eek2: :eek: :eek2: :eek:

this is awesome, highly appreciated mate!!!! :happy:

Looks like theyve tided the site up a lot.
awaiting arival of samsung...

great pics btw!

the burj will be the most sexiest tower in the world... unbelievable...
i am soooo excited to see the first floors being built...

That's a beatiful model, and I fell in love with the residences after seeing this picture:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p5b852ff5015ef8fb76aea9d3a716840d/f5229f2e.jpg

Bit clearer photo of model

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/AltTabDXB/burj1.jpg
Photo by DubaiDave.


so this is probably the final model of Burj Dubai, now we would only need to know height of the tallest The residences tower so we could calculate the height of Burj Dubai...
I estimated that Burj Dubai would be about 5.5times taller

Res.Tower - Burj Dubai:
125m - 690m
140m - 770m
155m - 850m
170m - 940m

well, this was just extremely inaccurate speculation... :D

man that's a huge model, wow. If this is less than 750m, i'd be surprised.

Actually from the model it seems to be around 700m range (which is dissapointing) if we take the buildings next to it to be around 150-180m.

Man, you people are lame. You get diappointed because you're getting a tower only 700 meters tall. Shut up and be happy about the beautiful tower you're getting.

hey...we guys in dubai are used to the mooooost impressive things...and 700 m are only...well impressing but we expect more from our city :cheers:

700 metres is not that impressive. i mean a country like the US could probably put together a tower that tall!

:bleh: :bleh:
:bleh:

^ LOL !

Edited post - it was a reply to something from page 7...

back to only 700 meters

btw we have no height until no and we will probably just have it when it is completed .. and a long time to go and other prolects are only waiting to be topped out by the burj... (al burj,BB Tower..) :)
So still hope for more than 700... but i am sure it won't stop at 700 actually..

700 metres is not that impressive. i mean a country like the US could probably put together a tower that tall!

:bleh: :bleh:
:bleh:
sure thay can, thats why there doing it year after year.

^ Repeat LOL

Ohhh i nearly had an orgasm after seeing the base of that sexy beast.:P I m sure it gonna be something more than 850m high. Plus , EMAAR is not that stupid to take a risk of building only 750 m high. Ah and Al Burj is just gonna look like a bush compare to Burj Dubai!!! Sexy, sexy , HOT!!!;)

sure thay can, thats why there doing it year after year.
Really, i thought the freedom tower was going to be the tallest. ill go check the US forums. but i think there are FAA regulations.
so will the burj not be the wtb?


hootflop.

Ohhh i nearly had an orgasm after seeing the base of that sexy beast.:P I m sure it gonna be something more than 850m high. Plus , EMAAR is not that stupid to take a risk of building only 750 m high. Ah and Al Burj is just gonna look like a bush compare to Burj Dubai!!! Sexy, sexy , HOT!!!;)

Burj Dubai is meant to be the climax of skyscrapers

^LOL!

it will be such a relief when its built!

700m is pretty disappointing, to me, it is like constructing a toothpick.

^LOL!

it will be such a relief when its built!

Everyone will look at the finished product and sigh in contentment

Everyone will look at the finished product and sigh in contentment

however some are bound to moan on and on about it...

however some are bound to moan on and on about it...
Yes, in bed after buying a unit in the Burj.

Where exactly can the burj dubai sales offices be located, I really wantt to go paya visit. Thanks

go to defence roundabout, exit towards nad al sheeba, follow the road along the big blue fence, take the road with all the flags near the end of it. there are signs too!

You have to fix an apoitment in advance, in order to be allowed in the sales office, otherwise you'll be "re-directed" on the nearby Old Town and Dubai Mall sales offices.:lol:

BTW I see that the height of the tower on the thread title is changed to "800m +". Why not change the numbers of floors also? On the BD web site, the render of the elevator panel, clearly shows the "189" buton.

Thanks for the info on how to get to the offices dxb raptor. I lwill try to set an appointment.

Will that be the actual width of the base of burj dubai? When i look at it closely, and look at the cars, it kinda looks , well not as large as i would have thought.

well that debate has and will RAGE for weeks to come!

its that hard to get in
maybe i wont bother already have some great images of the model and limited time for me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bangkok2/brjdb.jpg

How many floors on that thing? Who wants to count them?

I have a high resolution pic, I counted 3 times

7 Storey Podium + 15 Machanical floors + 175 Residential? floors. = 197 Storey.

To assure my counting...;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bangkok2/burj.jpg

too tired to count guys :D

who knows how many floors, how massive the base, how tall the tower

IT'S DRIVING ME NUTS to wait another 4 years :rant: :lol:

Patience, my friend. Four years is less than what I must wait for marriage.

197 floors...amazing..
will top the 800 for sure... :)

197???
no-way, they wouldnt stop there, 200 for sure!

^ It will probably will be, to stay competitive. Al Burj renders show (25x8) 200 floors.

^ It will probably will be, to stay competitive. Al Burj renders show (25x8) 200 floors.
I thought it was 7 sections, with 25 floors each. Now it's 8?

^ It is indeed 7. It looks like 8 if you count the section at the very top.... My mistake.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/kaz1_2ghz/alburjpool.jpg

Assuming the top section has 15 floors, that makes for a 190-story Al Burj. Definitely not shabby.

im dsparate to see them both alive:) aaaaaaa it will be exciting

i just went to the members gallery area and i could not find out how to post pictures and make my own gallery there. If anyone knows , please tell me how i have some cool photos of dubai marina etc.
Cheers...

NEW PHOTOS

Photos taken by DarkBlueBoss from urbanplanet.org
http://www.angelfire.com/d20/darkblueboss/Burj.html
(great The Residences photo too)

very nice!

nice but nothing changed so far

nice but nothing changed so far
..

those pics are awesome...the area is just so massive :eek:

Well, World's tallest tower, World's biggest shopping mall and a whole of a new downtown.

some facts...from german dubai magazine:
average 3floors a week are estimated to be built :) new record ;)
3100 people involved in construction
lift will run 65km/h
amazing...

3floors a week! that's insane :runaway:
12floors per month :)

When do you think the 1st floor will be up?

may or june i guess
maybe even later

if they can really build at a rate of 3 floors per week then the tower should be topped out in a less than a year and 4 months. Its just going to be very exciting wathcing it rise at this rate!

well this was the average rate. think it can be taken serious.
but the ground floors will take longer than the upper ones of course...

some facts...from german dubai magazine:
average 3floors a week are estimated to be built :) new record ;)

I think that's still much slower than Empire State Building. But probably it would be a new record for a concrete tower :-)

3floors a week? WOW!

I think that's still much slower than Empire State Building.

MUCH slower? Empire state was built at a rate MUCH FASTER than 3 floors a week?

I think someone said it was 4 floors in 10 days.

^ which is actually slower (especially if a week is taken as 6 days with sunday off - remember someone saying a while ago that people generally have sunday off on these projects)

3 floors in 6 days = 1 floor in 2 days
3 floors in 7 days = 1 floor in 2.33 days
4 floors in 10 days = 1 floor in 2.5 days

i think this rate is the maximum it will reach, id imagine the first few floors will take much longer, and maybe the last section will be done at 3 floors a week. either way its gonna be amazing when this starts to rise!

i'm convinced this won't happen in dubai
construction will definitely go on 24/7 every single day

oh yes exspecially on the burj dubai construction will never stop...

well, its got to break ground leval first!
before it can explode upwards!

You'd think at 3 dihrams per hour they could afford more than 3100 construction staff!

Is it true that 70% of Duba's population right now is construction staff on a salary of 3 dihram per hour? No wonder they are staying 4 families per studio! What will happen when construction boom ends in Dubai in 10 years time ?

MUCH slower? Empire state was built at a rate MUCH FASTER than 3 floors a week?

Didn`t you know ? They needed only 18 month to build this building.

Framework rose at the rate of 4 1/2 floors per week.

Actually, not 18 months. Groundbreaking happened in march 1930 and opening ceremony was on 1st of May 1931. Not sure if this is correct, but I remember reading somewhere that construction pace peaked at 8 floors/week (so that's even more than 1 floor/day).

This being said, it doesn't detract anything from Burj Dubai being an incredible engineering achievement ^^ 3 floors a week is definitely super-fast !

Actually, not 18 months. Groundbreaking happened in march 1930 and opening ceremony was on 1st of May 1931. Not sure if this is correct, but I remember reading somewhere that construction pace peaked at 8 floors/week (so that's even more than 1 floor/day).

This being said, it doesn't detract anything from Burj Dubai being an incredible engineering achievement ^^ 3 floors a week is definitely super-fast !

8 floors in a week is to much.

Here is my sorce.
[url]http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=114095

Edit:
Ups it seems that Emporis changes the "Random Facts" every day ^^
Yesterday i quoted the 4 1/2 floors per week.

A larger over view of the entire downtown project, we dont seem to have a thread for downtown project in the projects section, so im posting it here.

http://www.gowealthy.com/realestate/dubai/emaar/burjdubai/images/location_01.jpghttp://www.gowealthy.com/realestate/dubai/emaar/burjdubai/images/location_02.jpghttp://www.gowealthy.com/realestate/dubai/emaar/burjdubai/images/location_03.jpghttp://www.gowealthy.com/realestate/dubai/emaar/burjdubai/images/location_04.jpg

Putzmeister poised to break records

http://www.gulfconstructionworldwide.com/source/xxvi/03/images/G-Unimix130105.jpg
Khalid Mohammed S Bakhit, managing director of Unimix and Dr Hinrich Mahlmann.

Concrete pumping technology will be stretched to record heights when Putzmeister pumps get into operation on the world's tallest tower – the Burj Dubai.

German construction equipment specialist Putzmeister will soon be a part of yet another record-breaking team as its range of concrete pumps will work on the Burj Dubai – which at over 600 m (the exact height is not yet fixed) is slated to be the tallest tower in the world.

A contract to this effect was recently entered into between Universal Concrete Products Limited Company (Unimix) and Putzmeister (PM) the engineering and plant construction company.

Previously, Unimix as subcontractor had been given the order to produce, supply, pump and place all of the approximately 250,000 cu m concrete required, says a spokesman for Putzmeister.

“Co-operation between Unimix and PM is long-standing and has tradition,” says the spokesman. “Both partners have already worked together in excellent cooperation on previous large-scale projects in Dubai, including the construction of the seven-star hotel Burj A Arab, the Emirate Towers, the Shangri-La Hotel and The Tower.”

“During the construction of the shell of the building, Putzmeister concrete pumps are expected to reach a delivery height of distinctly more than 500 m,” he continues. “The experts are therefore reckoning that the current world record in concrete high-rise pumping of 532 m (set by PM concrete pumps in 1994) will be broken at this spectacular building site.

“The estimated $8 billion Burj Dubai tower is looked on as the centrepiece of the Downtown Dubai Development design and is financed by the real estate company Emaar Properties. A joint venture comprising Samsung Corporation (South Korea), Besix (Belgium) and the local construction company Arabtec was awarded the contract as general contractor for the construction of the prestigious high-rise complex. Skidmore, Owing & Merrill was commissioned with the design and planning of the Burj Dubai Tower while Turner Construction International has been named the project coordinator.
The shell of the building is estimated to require around 36 months of construction time for completion, he says.

University at Afghanistan

Putzmeister pumps are busy on a wide range of projects in the region. Among the current projects under way is the rebuilding of a new university complex in Kabul, Afghanistan.

An Afghan-Iranian enterprise is currently constructing the modern university centre commissioned by Ayatollah Mohseni, which once completed will accommodate up to 4,000 students on a campus of 36,000 sq m.
In addition to 50 classrooms, the area will boast a research centre, a mosque, a library, a cafeteria, a medical centre and residential accommodation for the students. The foundation stone for the mosque – expected to the largest in Kabul – was laid by President Hamid Karzai.

Elaborating on the work under way, the spokesman says: “In all, work is in progress on 10 buildings of varous sizes, all of which are planned to be handed over in March next year after a two-year construction period.
“The concrete pour for the foundations and the construction of numerous floors was pushed to some extent by Afghan Toos by using a new PM stationary pump type BSA 1005D and an RV 10 rotary distributor. The most important spares and wearing parts of the BSA concrete pump, the couplings and the rubber washers for the delivery line were safely stored in a container.
In addition, a Putzmeister mortar pump type S 5 EV, also working on site, deals with all pumpable mortars up to 6 mm grain size, output can be set infinitely variable (1.5 to 40 l/min) and is used particularly for plastering jobs.
Founded in 1958 for the manufacture of plastering machines, Putzmeister has over the years transformed from a craftsman’s business to a hi-tech company, with over 14 subsidiaries worldwide.

PM’s main products include machines for the pipe conveying and placing of concrete, mortar and high-density solids, including their mixing, storage, distributing, as well as machines and systems for high-pressure-cleaning.
In addition to actually providing the machines, the company also offers complete solutions, which include competent consulting and service, organisational assistance and process control systems.

“Our spheres of operation are in the construction industry, in mining and tunnelling, major industrial projects and in power stations,” he concludes.

read that already in german paper...!
well german quality is everywhere in dubai!

From the wolrd forums...
PortenodeSangre...

http://www.hoogbouw.nl/pix/mipim06.jpg



:eek2:

the burj is sooo sexy...

:nuts: :applause: :bow: :naughty: :guns1: :horse: :rock:

wow!

that is absoloutly stunning!

although, i was expecting downtown to be a little more like a downtown, i.e. dense!
but then again it is only a model!

the burj is sooo sexy...



Down boy!! Not in public, I'll give you a bit of kleenex and you can go off on your own ;)

But yes, good picture, where did they get that from though I've never seen it before

^ JAN took that picture on that exibition in Cannes.

ah jan said he will be there .... now i know.
the guy in world forum did not say that.
juice that was an offence...

suddenly all the towers around look completely different, i mean their locations and order is new

http://www.hoogbouw.nl/pix/mipim06.jpg

:eek2:

This is for those unbelievers who think BD wont cross the 1 km mark ! Look at the difference in heights of the might BD and the residences!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm beginning to believe Dubai Boy's prediction of 1,300 m !!!!!!!!!

well ... would be some kind of surprise...the ceo says the foundation can stand 950m , so everybody thinks that is the limit, and finally they reach 1000...that would be sooo insane...
:)

Yeah, the residences look puny in that pic!

but may be cause of perspective too..though i hope they look that puny in original too compared to the burj...

those 'puny towers' look pretty large from SZR!

but yeah, the burj looks massive! bring on 1k!

oh imjust sighing, nothing else. its sooooo tiring to think of its height, timewill show

do we get BD thread part 2 once this one reaches 500 posts?

might be an idea large threads can become hard

13 posts to go!!
but 25 sits is really hard...we need a knew one!!

I dont know if this render has been posted before, but I just found it and its quite stunning the night vision

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bangkok2/burj.jpg

is that from a pdf?
i got the same as DIN A4 picture on my wall...

On your wall? :eek: I bet that picture must be a real chickmagnet!

krazy, I see you have dubya as your avitar. whats that all about?

Hi guys,

Has anyone ever wondered how the foundation work of Burj Dubai seems to have been totally detached from construction above ground?

The consortium leader Samsung has the task to built the tallest building on earth at probably 950m. There was quite a time gap between the final pouring of the foundation and the announcement of Samsung as consortium leaders. Where was the technical interaction? Samsung and associates found out months later that they would undertake the actual construction - they couldn't have had a say in the way the foundation works were carried out.

It puzzles me and in way makes it appear to me that its technically not that difficult to put up building of that size. I presume that once again it must have had something to do with the will of the leadership that things are happening quick in Dubai.

SA BOY,
What's wrong with your avatar being that of a person that is an amazing leader and a real champion of administering "democracy" to otherwise crime-riddled, war-hungry nations?

lol would say he's right.
and chicks are almost flying into my room...fly emirates..

emir of ketir, i guess that the plans did not change because of samsung is now building the burj ,so it might be no problem that the foundation was already built before..

lol would say he's right.
and chicks are almost flying into my room...fly emirates..

emir of ketir, i guess that the plans did not change because of samsung is now building the burj ,so it might be no problem that the foundation was already built before..

Is this your chick? ;) http://chicken.bock.com/chick.jpg

no i would say this is mine.

http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/phil/leo/bilder_neu/nelly-furtado.jpg

isn't she a beauty? nelly furtado btw.

but back to the burj , or dennis kicks our asses.
i must say it is as sexy as nelly is, though it will never fly through my window, ok nelly will do that never ,too... :bash:

No Chatting!

naughty naughty. Verry Naughty!!!!!!

now unless im verry much mistaken, nelly furtardo will not be playing a concert on the burj foundation, and no eggs are hatching there at the moment.

it feels good to be oh so responsible!

ok, any guesses about the opening cermony for the burj?

Lets take this to Oatmeal

no, i will open part 2