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falcon iv
April 10th, 2005, 09:48 PM
Here are the pics of new project that's being built in Srpsko Sarajevo these days.

http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/TrzniCentarLukavica/images/TCAksonometrija1_jpg.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/TrzniCentarLukavica/images/TCAksonometrija2_jpg.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/TrzniCentarLukavica/images/TCGro_jpg.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/TrzniCentarLukavica/images/TCDetalj5_jpg.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/TrzniCentarLukavica/images/TCDetalj6_jpg.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/TrzniCentarLukavica/images/TCDetalj7_jpg.jpg

MIMICA
April 10th, 2005, 09:54 PM
Do you have any pictures of Serbian Sarajevo? I'd like to see the normal day-to-day life...

falcon iv
April 10th, 2005, 10:00 PM
Do you have any pictures of Serbian Sarajevo? I'd like to see the normal day-to-day life...

here we go...
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/GalerijaSlika/Ostalo/TrznicentarTom.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/GalerijaSlika/Naselja/Famos.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/GalerijaSlika/Naselja/Marvel.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/GalerijaSlika/Naselja/PlavaZgrada.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/GalerijaSlika/Naselja/slike006.jpg

Sarajka
April 10th, 2005, 10:15 PM
I don't understand why they call it "Srpsko Sarajevo"...it sure is Serbian, but it's not Sarajevo - never was. ;) It's not like it's Grbavica or anything - it's just a bunch of strung together villages off to the East - Lukavica, Pale, and so on - they wouldn't even make the maps if not for their political importance. I don't think they ever did fall under the administration in Sarajevo.

In any event, here's more of that area:

http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/GalerijaSlika/Naselja/Cavarkapa.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/GalerijaSlika/Naselja/PremaSali.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/GalerijaSlika/Sport/PromjenapodlogenastadionuSlavija.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/GalerijaSlika/Ostalo/Raskrsnica1.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/GalerijaSlika/Ostalo/IndustrijskazonaEnergoinvest.jpg

Majevčan
April 10th, 2005, 10:29 PM
Here are the pics of new project that's being built in Srpsko Sarajevo these days.

http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/TrzniCentarLukavica/images/TCAksonometrija1_jpg.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/TrzniCentarLukavica/images/TCAksonometrija2_jpg.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/TrzniCentarLukavica/images/TCGro_jpg.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/TrzniCentarLukavica/images/TCDetalj5_jpg.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/TrzniCentarLukavica/images/TCDetalj6_jpg.jpg
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/TrzniCentarLukavica/images/TCDetalj7_jpg.jpg
:okay:

Nice project for Srpsko Sarajevo

Majevcan

salvius
April 10th, 2005, 10:30 PM
http://www.srpskosarajevo.com/GalerijaSlika/Ostalo/TrznicentarTom.jpg

How much more suburban can it get?

Markko
April 10th, 2005, 10:31 PM
I don't understand why they call it "Srpsko Sarajevo"...

Da se ti cudis...

Majevčan
April 10th, 2005, 10:43 PM
Da se ti cudis...
:D:D:D

Sarajka
April 10th, 2005, 10:44 PM
http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Bijelo_Polje_%20i_Pavlovac.jpghttp://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Dobrinja1_2.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/DOBRINJA1_1.jpeg
http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Autobuska_Stania2.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/autobuska_stanica1.jpeg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Autobuska_Stanica3.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Hram_Vasilija_Ostroskog_2.jpeg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Dobrinja1_Autobuska.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Dobrinja1_u_Izgradnji.jpeg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Dobrinja1_4.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Dobrinja1_3.jpeg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Dobrinja4_4.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Dobrinja4_3.jpeg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Dobrinja4_2.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Dobrinja4_1.jpeg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Dobrinja4.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/etf.jpg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/9.jpg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/8.jpg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/7.jpg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/3.jpg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Kotorac.jpg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Gornji_Kotorac%20_Vagane.jpg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Hotel_Terex2.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Hotel_Terex1.jpeg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Hotel_Terex.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Crkva_Vasilije_Ostroski.jpg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Hram_na_Vracama.jpg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/crkva_u_vojkovicima.jpg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/13.jpg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/14.jpg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/17.jpg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Karadjordjeva_ulica_2.jpg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Lukavica.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Lukavicka_cesta.jpeg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Novogradnja.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/19.jpg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/6.jpg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/table.jpg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/tabla-Kasindo.jpg

Sarajevo, the real one, is just beyond this mountain - Trebevic
http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Trebevic.jpg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Trebevic_i%20Bijelo_Polje.jpg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Trzni_Centar_Tom2.jpeg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Trzni_Centar_Tom1.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/4.jpg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/u_izgradnji.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Izgradnja-1.jpeg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Karadjordjeva_Lukavica1.jpeg

http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/Stefana_%20Nemanje_Lukavica3.jpeg http://www.sarajevo-rs.com/Foto-Galerija/albums/userpics/10001/23.jpg

Markko
April 10th, 2005, 10:59 PM
The real, or the crappy one is beyond the mountain?

Sarajka
April 10th, 2005, 11:05 PM
Nevermind. :)

The new project is lovely. In a few years, you might even rank with Pristina. :D Good luck!

Markko
April 10th, 2005, 11:09 PM
I said 'real', and it seems you can read, so why ask? :) But if you must:

The Sarajevo that people refer to when they say "Sarajevo" is on the other side of Trebevic. ;) When a Frenchman, Englishman, German, Latvian, Pole, Russian, Macedonian, Greek, American, Canadian, whatever else...says "Sarajevo"...what they're talking about is on the other side of that hill. ;)

Yeah and when they say Srpsko Sarajevo they mean the one on the picture, no one was calling it just Sarajevo, it was clearly labelled Srpsko Sarajevo.

MIMICA
April 10th, 2005, 11:29 PM
The real, or the crappy one is beyond the mountain?


Nice joke...:rofl:

As for Srpsko Sarajevo, don't you think they could have at least made the name a little more original. :ohno: :| Seriously, why not call it something else? If you think it's so crappy, why would the Srpsko Sarajevo hold half of it's name to the REAL one? :dunno:

Please, stop provoking, since all it does is make people angry for no reason reason...

EDIT: If you seriously think that Srpsko Sarajevo is better looking than Sarajevo, you've got to get your head checked, and not in the "fake" Sarajevo, the REAL one. :D ;)

Markko
April 10th, 2005, 11:45 PM
Nice joke...:rofl:

As for Srpsko Sarajevo, don't you think they could have at least made the name a little more original. :ohno: :| Seriously, why not call it something else? If you think it's so crappy, why would the Srpsko Sarajevo hold half of it's name to the REAL one? :dunno:

Please, stop provoking, since all it does is make people angry for no reason reason...

EDIT: If you seriously think that Srpsko Sarajevo is better looking than Sarajevo, you've got to get your head checked, and not in the "fake" Sarajevo, the REAL one. :D ;)
...

yugoboy
April 11th, 2005, 12:07 AM
I don't like Srpsko Sarajevo, becouse it is fake.. But then again I hear it is inhabited by mostly serbs from Sarajevo.. so that is why they call is srpsko Sarajevo.. I don't think any city with name Srpsko anything should be in Bosnia and Herzegovina :sleepy:

Sarajka
April 11th, 2005, 12:10 AM
I was just hoping we were past these f--king RS/FBiH threads. ;) But we have enough Cetniks here to keep it going, I guess. :D

MIMICA
April 11th, 2005, 12:10 AM
I don't like Srpsko Sarajevo, becouse it is fake.. But then again I hear it is inhabited by mostly serbs from Sarajevo.. so that is why they call is srpsko Sarajevo.. I don't think any city with name Srpsko anything should be in Bosnia and Herzegovina :sleepy:


Thank you for understanding my thoughts, but I appologize for my sudden outburst of anger. I just don't understand why the Serbs can't live with the Bosniaks and Croats...

Markko
April 11th, 2005, 12:12 AM
I was just hoping we were past these f--king RS/FBiH threads. ;) But we have enough Cetniks here to keep it going, I guess. :D

Well when we have such a huge poturicu like you, I guess us "Cetniks" have to show up...

yugoboy
April 11th, 2005, 12:12 AM
Thank you for understanding my thoughts, but I appologize for my sudden outburst of anger. I just don't understand why the Serbs can't live with the Bosniaks and Croats...
Mimica, we can, are, and will .. Serbs are a lot more normal, and good people than some of the serbs in these forums :)

yugoboy
April 11th, 2005, 12:13 AM
anyways back to the city...

It actually has a lot of good projects.. and looks like it will have a good economic future with all these projects going on :)

MIMICA
April 11th, 2005, 12:18 AM
Mimica, we can, are, and will .. Serbs are a lot more normal, and good people than some of the serbs in these forums :)


I am already aware that there are VERY nice Serbs, such as those that have faught, and lost their lives towards helping Bosnia and Herzegovina, and I truly extrend my heart towards them.

Bosnia and Herzegovina is progressing very quickly, and soon will be Unified with one...No more RS, No more Federation...Just BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA. :yes:

Sarajka
April 11th, 2005, 12:26 AM
I truly believe in that also, Yugoboy.

I've never met people like Falcon, Duckzilla, Majevcan, Roker, etc...in real life. I've met many like you and Stevan, though, Yugoboy. Many like Salvius and Pyromaniac also, actually - I would consider this type nationalist and proud, but not at the expense of everyone else.

I mean...to create a Sarajevo (Republic of Serbian) thread just blows my mind away. Republic of Serbian is a horrible translation of Republika Srpska, it doesn't even make sense. Sarajevo isn't in the "Republic of Serbian", it's in Bosnia and Herzegovina; and if you must split it up into entities, Sarajevo is STILL not in the "Republic of Serbian".

As for the terms found inside the thread: Srpsko Sarajevo no longer exists, not even within RS institutions. The High Court of BiH forced them, over a year ago, to change the name. They chose "East Sarajevo" and this is the correct, official name.

yugoboy
April 11th, 2005, 12:32 AM
Mila and Timur, the reason i am so against a Serbian Sarajevo is because i know how angry I would be if they made a "Muslim Banja Luka" a couple km away from Banja Luka.. and plus I like Sarajevo, and know it's a great city.. I visited Bascarsija this summer.. had no problems.. I saw a couple Serbian churches Tito pictures.. just like before the war..

BosRoker
April 11th, 2005, 12:40 AM
It's nice to see some small projects in the area.

But I never call it east Sarajevo.. it's always been Lukavica for me, and I think it's pretty stupid that people are trying to advertise it as something it isn't just for political reasons.

Markko
April 11th, 2005, 12:48 AM
I truly believe in that also, Yugoboy.

I've never met people like Falcon, Duckzilla, Majevcan, Roker, etc...in real life. I've met many like you and Stevan, though, Yugoboy. Many like Salvius and Pyromaniac also, actually - I would consider this type nationalist and proud, but not at the expense of everyone else.

I mean...to create a Sarajevo (Republic of Serbian) thread just blows my mind away. Republic of Serbian is a horrible translation of Republika Srpska, it doesn't even make sense. Sarajevo isn't in the "Republic of Serbian", it's in Bosnia and Herzegovina; and if you must split it up into entities, Sarajevo is STILL not in the "Republic of Serbian".

As for the terms found inside the thread: Srpsko Sarajevo no longer exists, not even within RS institutions. The High Court of BiH forced them, over a year ago, to change the name. They chose "East Sarajevo" and this is the correct, official name.

You single us out because we are people who are questioning you, not just bending over at your insulance like yugoboy. You like to rub salt on open wounds, and there is not a single person that can convince me otherwise. This is the most disgusting forum I have every been to, it acctually beats the GYL forum and it is caused mainly by you Mila. You know what irritates us and you just keep coming with it, a jab here, a punch there. These cretins that are your following are too stupid to understand what you are acctually doing, but you are doing it nonetheless. You are incredibly smart, but you are just as devious. Say what you want now, I know your posee is going to eat it up with a spoon, but I get your real intentions. I wish you never came back now, you sicken me.

Sarajka
April 11th, 2005, 01:12 AM
Good, then we're even. :)

The day you viewed a thread of pictures of destroyed homes, dead bodies, and crying women whose suffering was caused by Cetniks - and your only reaction was to post a Serbian flag? - you make me sick.

I wouldn't post a Croatian flag on a Jasenovac thread, but I suppose that's just how we're different.

I choose to hang on to people like Yugoboy with both hands not because they agree with me - in case you failed to notice, Yugoboy and I have had conflicting opinions many times - but because they don't befriend only those who think like they do. Yugoboy treats me with respect whether he agrees with me or not, as I do as well - and that is a basic human relationship - something people like you will never understand, or feel. :)

Markko
April 11th, 2005, 01:27 AM
Good, then we're even. :)

The day you viewed a thread of pictures of destroyed homes, dead bodies, and crying women whose suffering was caused by Cetniks - and your only reaction was to post a Serbian flag? - you make me sick.

I wouldn't post a Croatian flag on a Jasenovac thread, but I suppose that's just how we're different.

I choose to hang on to people like Yugoboy with both hands not because they agree with me - in case you failed to notice, Yugoboy and I have had conflicting opinions many times - but because they don't befriend only those who think like they do. Yugoboy treats me with respect whether he agrees with me or not, as I do as well - and that is a basic human relationship - something people like you will never understand, or feel. :)

You only befriend people because you want to make them think like you, thats what you have always done.


I wouldn't post a Croatian flag on a Jasenovac thread, but I suppose that's just how we're different.


No Mila, the difference is that I wouldn't make a thread about Jasenovac on an ARCHITECTURAL forum, because I am not here to spread my politics around like you...what you do on this forum is just politics and because I don't want to be a complete jackass to you I will not mention other posts as of late that are just plain wrong (not from a Serb point of view, but a persons). You don't know shit about being a friend, and even less about being a good person, you are just a bad influence.

yugoboy
April 11th, 2005, 01:31 AM
You only befriend people because you want to make them think like you, thats what you have always done.


Mila didn't make me think like her.. I have always beleaved in Peace, brotherhood and Unity :) I think she shares the same beleafs as me on that note.. I have many Muslim and Croat friends before Mila.. I mean come on just because one day she said "Sarajevo is Great" Doesn't mean i would say the same thing just because she did..

---That is the last post for me on this thread

Sarajka
April 11th, 2005, 01:31 AM
You would make a thread about Jasenovac if you came to a forum where a group of Ustasa were sitting around, patting each other brainlessly on the back, and talking about how peachy fucking keen a Serb-less Slavonia is. :)

Especially if they were a tiny, almost insignificant minority and you really liked most of the people on the forum, and vice versa. ;)

Markko
April 11th, 2005, 01:34 AM
You would make a thread about Jasenovac if you came to a forum where a group of Ustasa were sitting around, patting each other brainlessly on the back, and talking about how peachy fucking keen a Serb-less Slavonia is. :)

Especially if they were a tiny, almost insignificant minority and you really liked most of the people on the forum, and vice versa. ;)

No Mila I would not because unlike you, using dead people to serve a meaningless purpose on the internet, is something I am not a fan of. But nice try.

Sarajka
April 11th, 2005, 01:36 AM
Hardly meaningless. Probably, to those who died, the most important thing you could do with their memory. :)

Markko
April 11th, 2005, 01:36 AM
Mila didn't make me think like her.. I have always beleaved in Peace, brotherhood and Unity :) I think she shares the same beleafs as me on that note.. I have many Muslim and Croat friends before Mila.. I mean come on just because one day she said "Sarajevo is Great" Doesn't mean i would say the same thing just because she did..

---That is the last post for me on this thread

Friends don't try to shame your people...no matter where they are from.

SpotlessMind
April 11th, 2005, 01:37 AM
Owh, didn't notice this one as well...

Again, magical....

Lukavica is truly the real beauty on the other side of Trebevic.

Markko
April 11th, 2005, 01:38 AM
Hardly meaningless. Probably, to those who died, the most important thing you could do with their memory. :)

Yeah, nothing says you care like posting pictures of graves on the internet so that no one ever questions what you say or your motives...

Sarajka
April 11th, 2005, 01:41 AM
Last post for me on this thread as well...

Love your reactions to everything, SpotlessMind. I wish I could react to things with as few words as you do.

Mods - please note the first post on this thread was the thread itself: Sarajevo (Republic of Serbian).

Markko
April 11th, 2005, 01:45 AM
Last post for me on this thread as well...

Love your reactions to everything, SpotlessMind. I wish I could react to things with as few words as you do.

Mods - please note the first post on this thread was the thread itself: Sarajevo (Republic of Serbian).

My last words in this thread: REPUBLIKA SRPSKA EXISTS. GET OVER IT.

Kommandant Mark
April 11th, 2005, 01:59 AM
Aw, Mila....you didn't mention me...:(
in what group would I be, Majevcan/Duckzilla's or Stevan's/Yugoboy's?;)

KhApZ!
April 11th, 2005, 03:01 AM
What is the Republic Sprska (how is it said) ? and if it is "Serbian" why is it in BiH?

salvius
April 11th, 2005, 03:14 AM
Many like Salvius and Pyromaniac also, actually - I would consider this type nationalist and proud, but not at the expense of everyone else.

This is the second time someone has labeled me a nationalist I believe, and I'm still a bit confused--how am I nationalist? :dunno:

I am neither Croatian nor Serbian, or Bosniak. It's kind of hard for me to be a nationalist for any one of those. Although I am a Russian/Ukranian mix, I certainly don't consider myself a nationalist for either of these countries. I indeed am patriotic and proud, but of Canada which is my home.

I follow the EE threads because that's where I was born and I rather like the region. I am very happy to be able to show it to my Canadian-born girlfriend this Summer. As for my political views, they are influenced by people such as Noam Chomsky (although I am not an anarchist myself). You are, of course, free to disagree with them, but the last thing they are is nationalist.

MIMICA
April 11th, 2005, 03:38 AM
What is the Republic Sprska (how is it said) ? and if it is "Serbian" why is it in BiH?


Republika Srpska (RS)

If I am correct, I believe that it was mentioned in great detail in the Dayton Agreement. The land that it occupies in Bosnia and Herzegovina (49%) is the areas in which Serbs had lived before the war, and giving them this land was part of the agreement. It is just a temporary solution towards stabalizing the government, yet I don't think that it is needed. :no:

Basically, think of it as a training wheel, one in which when the rider (Bosnia and Herzegovina) is "stable" enough to ride on, will basically take it away since it isn't needed anymore. :yes:

The RS wishes to split from Bosnia and Herzegovina, even though it is seriously impossible, these matters are troubling...

I hope that explains it to you, and I also hope that my "explaining" the RS didn't effect either side...

:cheers1:

BosRoker
April 11th, 2005, 04:08 AM
What is the Republic Sprska (how is it said) ? and if it is "Serbian" why is it in BiH?

That's a long story.

The land that it occupies in Bosnia and Herzegovina (49%) is the areas in which Serbs had lived before the war

Not true. More than half of today's Republika Srpska was either heavily ethnically mixed or had a Bosniak or Croat majority.

MIMICA
April 11th, 2005, 05:05 AM
That's a long story.



Not true. More than half of today's Republika Srpska was either heavily ethnically mixed or had a Bosniak or Croat majority.


Thank you for correcting me. :yes:

Kommandant Mark
April 11th, 2005, 05:10 AM
Yes, and equally so, large areas Muslim-Croat Federation was Serbian majority populated.

http://xenohistorian.faithweb.com/europe/Bosnia.gif

Filip
April 11th, 2005, 05:20 AM
Jebiga vise bre, pun mi kurac. Can't we have one thread about Bosnia where RS is not brought up? It's the most pathetic argument that you can have on this forum.

That's why I've even stopped bothering to read the Bosnian threads...

MIMICA
April 11th, 2005, 06:13 AM
Jebiga vise bre, pun mi kurac. Can't we have one thread about Bosnia where RS is not brought up? It's the most pathetic argument that you can have on this forum.

That's why I've even stopped bothering to read the Bosnian threads...


I do agree that this RS vs. FBIH talk needs to stop, but we were just answering this kids question. :dunno: It seems to be that the fighting has stopped, and both of ours sides have agreed to stop fighting in these threads...

:cheers1:

California EU
April 11th, 2005, 06:36 AM
How many airports does BiH have, and where are the locations?

KhApZ!
April 11th, 2005, 07:32 AM
but i dont get it, does that mean Bosnia will lose a substantial amount of land? is that a good thing ?

MIMICA
April 11th, 2005, 08:26 AM
but i dont get it, does that mean Bosnia will lose a substantial amount of land? is that a good thing ?


Bosnia and Herzegovina will not loose any land due to this matter, it is just under the RS control due to an agreement. Things will go back to their old ways soon enough, just give it some time. :)

MIMICA
April 11th, 2005, 08:27 AM
How many airports does BiH have, and where are the locations?


I'm pretty sure that Bosnia and Herzegovina has about 4 major airports in the country. Sarajevo is the REAL major one, but the others are just to get you to the place you need to go quickly...

They are in...
1) Sarajevo
2) Banja Luka
3) Tuzla
4) Mostar

KhApZ!
April 11th, 2005, 12:18 PM
ohh okay so soon RS and BiH will join?

falcon iv
April 11th, 2005, 01:48 PM
I am already aware that there are VERY nice Serbs, such as those that have faught, and lost their lives towards helping Bosnia and Herzegovina, and I truly extrend my heart towards them.

Bosnia and Herzegovina is progressing very quickly, and soon will be Unified with one...No more RS, No more Federation...Just BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA. :yes:


mimica and mila are members of islamic radical organization in so called bosnia,bosnian al queda.why do you write that stupid things about bosnia and herzegovina?nobobody in rs or in federation with croatin majority won't live together with radical muslims as you are.you can say that rs does not exist any more,but radical muslims will never be able to live in rs or croatian area ever.i live in srpsko sarajevo.this area was part of city of sarajevo before radical muslims started war.i was not writeing about pale,trnovo and sokolac.i was writeing about srpsko sarajevo,whic contains two city munucipalities,srpsko novo sarajevo and srpska ilidza.almost 40 000 residents live there rigt now.we are all from sarajevo!

Indexi
April 11th, 2005, 03:36 PM
mimica and mila are members of islamic radical organization in so called bosnia,bosnian al queda.why do you write that stupid things about bosnia and herzegovina?nobobody in rs or in federation with croatin majority won't live together with radical muslims as you are.you can say that rs does not exist any more,but radical muslims will never be able to live in rs or croatian area ever.i live in srpsko sarajevo.this area was part of city of sarajevo before radical muslims started war.i was not writeing about pale,trnovo and sokolac.i was writeing about srpsko sarajevo,whic contains two city munucipalities,srpsko novo sarajevo and srpska ilidza.almost 40 000 residents live there rigt now.we are all from sarajevo!

Wtf is your problem? Me and the other bosniak forumers haven't posted ONE radical thing , yet you attack us. Fcuk it, go hang yourself you racist little shit. Get the fuck out of our country, go live in Serbia if your so fcuking scared of the "dangerous" bosniaks.

For your part, just wait...in some years the bullshit called RS will be gone and sweetheart if you don't like, GET THE FUCK OUT OF BOSNIA! WE DON'T NEED RADICAL RACISTS LIKE YOU!

Talking about radical, you and de koske always come with the anti-islamic BS and call US radical? How stupid isn't that? Okey I know what to call you cunts now: Radical Christians. Sounds nice eh?

Indexi
April 11th, 2005, 03:38 PM
Damn, you people piss me of. I hate farmers!( falcon iv, duckzilla , de koske)

Majevčan
April 11th, 2005, 05:20 PM
I just don't understand why the Serbs can't live with the Bosniaks and Croats...
The old ooold oooooold story again.
Why weren't e.g. Bosniaks able to stay in Yugoslavia :sleepy:
weird thing isn't it;)

Zdravo Majevcan

[P.S: To burst your bubble, I have croatian friends, who are loyal and integer and we respect each other. And I'm not as nationalistic as some people might think here, but at the same time I'm not the guy that is fooled easily]

Majevčan
April 11th, 2005, 05:27 PM
You only befriend people because you want to make them think like you, thats what you have always done.
.
Tog' pazara nece biti ;)

Majevcan

P.S: My last post in this thread, it could have been a 'good' one but it got destroyed :sleepy: :nono:

falcon iv
April 11th, 2005, 06:20 PM
Yes, and equally so, large areas Muslim-Croat Federation was Serbian majority populated.

http://xenohistorian.faithweb.com/europe/Bosnia.gif

things changed in last few years.

acurrate ethnic map is

http://www.geocities.com/savindan/2004etnickaBiH.PNG

Indexi
April 11th, 2005, 06:25 PM
Wow, what a suprise..After years of radical orthodox christians ( serbs) aggresion on croats and bosniaks this doesn't suprise me. Don't worry soon it will change..

Anyways this maps should not be trusted as there are hundreds of them telling a different story.

falcon iv
April 11th, 2005, 06:36 PM
it will never change.maybe,americans will want bosnia without radical muslims.

let me remind forumers.green marked teritory is populated by radical islamic fanatics as emir,mila and mimica.

Indexi
April 11th, 2005, 06:43 PM
it will never change.maybe,americans will want bosnia without radical muslims.

let me remind forumers.green marked teritory is populated by radical islamic fanatics as emir,mila and mimica.


It will change, the people want Bosnia without radical orthodox christians and so wants the US.

Le me remind forumers, red teritory is occuped by radical orthodox christians (serbs) just as falcov vi,duckzilla, these people are mostly farmers and therefor seek a way to blame all there problems on someone. They are dangerous and tend to go to war when people seek indepedence from a dictatorship..

falcon iv
April 11th, 2005, 06:48 PM
It will change, the people want Bosnia without radical orthodox christians and so wants the US.

Le me remind forumers, red teritory is occuped by radical orthodox christians (serbs) just as falcov vi,duckzilla, these people are mostly farmers and therefor seek a way to blame all there problems on someone. They are dangerous and tend to go to war when people seek indepedence from a dictatorship..

nobody trusts muslims,even you dont trust yourself.croats and serbs(pure christians) want their part without radical islamists as you are.

Indexi
April 11th, 2005, 06:54 PM
nobody trusts muslims,even you dont trust yourself.croats and serbs(pure christians) want their part without radical islamists as you are.

Right, spear the lies. Ask croats who they trust? Bosniaks or Serbs? 99% will tell bosniaks...Sorry but the whole Balkans, exept some orthodox radical brothership you have, have turned the back to you nobody likes you anymore so save.

Serbs are generally nice people, but so many farmers like ( most serbs that now lives in Bosnia are farmers) have ruined what serbian meaned. Am pretty sure if the serbian people in Serbia could decide they would have let you down, you are nothing but trouble to the real serbs. They do there best to overcome what happened and your type of serbs ( bosnian serbs) come and ruin it all.

yeah right..we aren't the one who can be trusted..save it you have been the most hated for years in the balkans.

BosRoker
April 11th, 2005, 08:59 PM
That map isn't quite accurate.. Serbs do not have control of a single municipality in the federation.

Yes, and equally so, large areas Muslim-Croat Federation was Serbian majority populated.

http://xenohistorian.faithweb.com/europe/Bosnia.gif

Would you mind showing us these massive tracts of ethnically cleansed land now populated by Bosniaks?

yugoboy
April 11th, 2005, 09:57 PM
Emirho and falcon iv,

You two are the biggest radicals of all! It's because of people like you there has been a war in Bosnia, and the rest of Yugoslavia.. but who cares, this is an architecture forum SO SHUT THE FUCK UP! Go somewhere else! :)

Hepec
April 12th, 2005, 04:54 AM
Jerry, Jerry, Jerry....

Let's call Jerry Springer show and have all religious fanatics, racists, fundamentalists, nationalisits, communitsts-let's all have one big fight in front of the world viwers so they can all see how primitive we are.

After all, that's why they call us EASTERN EUROPEANS. (Actually, this implies only to those from Ex-Yu, and not other eastern europeans)
:grouphug:

salvius
April 12th, 2005, 04:58 AM
That map isn't quite accurate.. Serbs do not have control of a single municipality in the federation.

Would you mind showing us these massive tracts of ethnically cleansed land now populated by Bosniaks?

Land information, of course, is meaningless without density information. Take the pre-war and post-war Sarajevo population figures, for example.

BosRoker
April 12th, 2005, 05:06 AM
Land information, of course, is meaningless without density information. Take the pre-war and post-war Sarajevo population figures, for example.

What does Sarajevo's population have to do with ethnic cleansing :?

Either way I believe KM was referring to "large areas" populated by a "Serb majority".

KhApZ!
April 12th, 2005, 10:26 AM
Why did Serbia start ethnic cleansing for? Did The Bosnians or Croats do anything to provoke Serbia?

Since this is already a political thread can someone please explain it to me, everytime i ask nobody replies to me

Thanks, Khapz

ps. I do not want any unreasonable explanations ie. I do not want to hear from falcon iv...thanks

BosRoker
April 12th, 2005, 01:38 PM
Why did Serbia start ethnic cleansing for? Did The Bosnians or Croats do anything to provoke Serbia?

Since this is already a political thread can someone please explain it to me, everytime i ask nobody replies to me

Thanks, Khapz

ps. I do not want any unreasonable explanations ie. I do not want to hear from falcon iv...thanks

O.k., to briefly answer you without starting any major arguements: because before the war Bosnia was very ethnically mixed and it would've been impossible to connect the different areas populated by one ethnicity without cleansing another from an area in between. So i.e., Serbs ethnically cleansed Bosniaks from east Bosnia so that they could make the area right next to Serbia have a Serb majority. All three sides ethnically cleansed by the way, just the RS did it more.

KhApZ!
April 12th, 2005, 01:52 PM
but why did they do it for?

Maksym
April 12th, 2005, 07:00 PM
but why did they do it for?

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Croatia/cleansing.html

BosRoker
April 12th, 2005, 08:57 PM
but why did they do it for?

Well for the same reason anyone else would ethnically cleanse.

Sarajka
April 12th, 2005, 09:22 PM
One last post from me...

"You may believe you have voted for independence, but you have only voted to follow the same dark road as did Slovenia and Croatia. You have voted for the extermination of the Muslim people."
- Radovan Karadzic, Bosnian Serb leader, April, 1992.
(You can see the video of this speech in No Man's Land - which won an Oscar! The scary thing to me is even today, and I bet even on this forum, there are people who will read this quote and say: Well, duh?! What other options were there!? That's the mentality we're dealing with.)

Also, it's important to note that "ethnic cleansing" is not a term that the West placed on what they were doing. Ethnic cleansing was their term, they gave it the name, and it was official policy. People seem to forget that sometimes.

MIMICA
April 13th, 2005, 04:09 AM
mimica and mila are members of islamic radical organization in so called bosnia,bosnian al queda.why do you write that stupid things about bosnia and herzegovina?nobobody in rs or in federation with croatin majority won't live together with radical muslims as you are.you can say that rs does not exist any more,but radical muslims will never be able to live in rs or croatian area ever.i live in srpsko sarajevo.this area was part of city of sarajevo before radical muslims started war.i was not writeing about pale,trnovo and sokolac.i was writeing about srpsko sarajevo,whic contains two city munucipalities,srpsko novo sarajevo and srpska ilidza.almost 40 000 residents live there rigt now.we are all from sarajevo!


Yeah...You've got it right, Mila and I are members of a Islamic Radical Organization. :ohno: :no: You've got to be the dumbest and most ignorant person that I know! :lol:

Yeah, that is right. No one wants with the Radical Muslims...Where did you get this information from, your biased teachers in RS? :| The Croats and Bosnians get along 100 times more than the Serbs do with anyone!

"Radical Muslims"? Again, do you know any other words but "Radical Muslims" and "RS"? :| Your a disgrace to all humanity, and look...A 14 year old Bosnian is making you look like a dumbass! W-W-W-What? Is it something hard for you to comprehend, or were you born this stupid? :lol:

Yeah...So the Radical Muslims were the ones that started the war? Is that the lies that they told you? Of course, we were the ones that had killed the Bosnians, and stood on the mountains like pussies while the Bosnians faught bravely for their countries freedom. Just look how stupid you sound, you fucking dumbass...

One more thing, your precious RS will fall. Look at yourselves, you are BARELY supporting yourselves, and your only future is to fall, and BEGG for the Federations forgiveness. :| Where did you come up with the lies that America was on the RS's side? Are you retarded, apparently you don't understand that both NATO and the EU are on the Federations side, and the only way for the RS is to go back with the Federation...

Now, shut the fuck up, since I don't want to hear anymore of your dam "RS Radical" lies, you dumbass. :lol: <--- See that, that's all of us on the forum laughing at you!

KhApZ!
April 13th, 2005, 04:33 AM
...And I thought the Balkans were finally at peace...

MIMICA
April 13th, 2005, 05:10 AM
...And I thought the Balkans were finally at peace...


No, don't get us wrong. WE are, it's just that some people, such as the Serbian Radicalists like to start things up, and this is a result of that. :D As you saw from falcon iv, he is apparently extremely againt Muslim, even though they hadn't done anything...

Markko
April 13th, 2005, 05:20 AM
Tolko sranja da pomislis da stojis u kanalizaciji...

MIMICA
April 13th, 2005, 05:29 AM
Now that I've told the world how many lies 'falcon iv' had said, and showed you all how biased he is, let's please close this thread, and NEVER make something soo similar again. :)

Markko
April 13th, 2005, 05:46 AM
Neither of you has proved anything but that Mila and I aren't the only people who hate each other in this thread...someone please close this, where are the mods??DO YOUR JOB MODERATOR(S)!!!!!!

Kommandant Mark
April 13th, 2005, 06:11 AM
Oh yeah, there will be war again.

Now that all "ethnics"(as Americans say) are living in their clear-cut, homogenous corners of Bosnia, it will be a much easier job for the people in charge of targeting the weapons - they won't have to worry about who's Bosniak, who's Croat, who's Serb.

As Bajaga says...

Ovo je ovde Balkan,
Zemlja iz sna,
Izmedju mocnih sila,
Dobra i zla.

Tu svako moze biti
Dusman i brat;
Svakih pedeset leta izbija rat.

I ratnici i pesnici
I razliciti bogovi.

Ovo je ovde Balkan,
Mirisni cvet,
Totalno nerazumljiv za ceo svet.
I svako moze biti
Dusman i brat;
Svakih pedeset leta izbija rat.

Ovu su zemlju pravili
I ratnici i pesnici

Boycie
April 13th, 2005, 06:51 AM
Oh yeah, there will be war again.

Now that all "ethnics"(as Americans say) are living in their clear-cut, homogenous corners of Bosnia, it will be a much easier job for the people in charge of targeting the weapons - they won't have to worry about who's Bosniak, who's Croat, who's Serb.

As Bajaga says...

Ovo je ovde Balkan,
Zemlja iz sna,
Izmedju mocnih sila,
Dobra i zla.

Tu svako moze biti
Dusman i brat;
Svakih pedeset leta izbija rat.

I ratnici i pesnici
I razliciti bogovi.

Ovo je ovde Balkan,
Mirisni cvet,
Totalno nerazumljiv za ceo svet.
I svako moze biti
Dusman i brat;
Svakih pedeset leta izbija rat.

Ovu su zemlju pravili
I ratnici i pesnici

Hmm, it seems to me like a shithole.:D


:cheers:

MIMICA
April 13th, 2005, 07:39 AM
Oh yeah, there will be war again.

Now that all "ethnics"(as Americans say) are living in their clear-cut, homogenous corners of Bosnia, it will be a much easier job for the people in charge of targeting the weapons - they won't have to worry about who's Bosniak, who's Croat, who's Serb.

As Bajaga says...

Ovo je ovde Balkan,
Zemlja iz sna,
Izmedju mocnih sila,
Dobra i zla.

Tu svako moze biti
Dusman i brat;
Svakih pedeset leta izbija rat.

I ratnici i pesnici
I razliciti bogovi.

Ovo je ovde Balkan,
Mirisni cvet,
Totalno nerazumljiv za ceo svet.
I svako moze biti
Dusman i brat;
Svakih pedeset leta izbija rat.

Ovu su zemlju pravili
I ratnici i pesnici

A war again? :lol: So, tell me...Who's going to attack us this time? :|

KhApZ!
April 13th, 2005, 02:41 PM
This is the vibe i am getting:

Bosniak + Serb = dislike
Bosniak + Sprska people = HATE!
Croat + Bosniak = like
Croat + Serb = dislike
Sprska + Serb = like
Sprska + Croat= dislike

Where is Slovenia?

falcon iv
April 13th, 2005, 06:00 PM
This is the vibe i am getting:

Bosniak + Serb = dislike
Bosniak + Sprska people = HATE!
Croat + Bosniak = like
Croat + Serb = dislike
Sprska + Serb = like
Sprska + Croat= dislike

Where is Slovenia?

you're not right.croats don't like muslims too.

here's the text about their love

Incident ispred kafića "Top gun" u Orašju

Masovna tuča Bosnjaka i Hrvata

ORAŠJE - Ispred kafića "Top gun" u Orašju juče je u jedan sat iza ponoći izbila masovna tuča između više desetina Hrvata i Bošnjaka mlađe dobi, potvrdio nam je izvor blizak oraškoj policiji.

Nijedan od čelnika policije u Orašju juče nije želio prokomentirati masovnu tuču, nazvavši taj događaj "narušavanjem javnog reda i mira u obliku vike, galame, psovanja, naguravanja i oštećenja tuđe stvari".

"Prethodne noći oko jedan sat u kafiću 'Top gun' potukli su se Namik T. (24) iz Orašja i Ivica U. (24) iz Oštre Luke, koji su zadobili lakše ozljede", rekao je naš policijski izvor.

On je dodao da je nakon toga izbio niz incidenata u kojima je sudjelovalo oko 100 osoba u dvije skupine.

"Na jednoj strani su bili mladići bošnjačke nacionalnosti, a na drugoj njihovi vršnjaci Hrvati", rekao je policijski izvor i dodao da su jedni drugima za vrijeme tuče psovali majku.

Na mjestu su intervenirala trojica policajaca i trojica pripadnika Postrojbe za potporu MUP-a Županije posavske, koji su pozvali pojačanje. Nakon toga na mjesto sukoba su došle sve raspoložive policijske snage u Orašju i pripadnici PS Domaljevac - Šamac/Bosanski Šamac.

Policajci su, kako tvrdi naš izvor, sve promatrali i nisu se željeli miješati u sukob, jer su Bosnjaci i Hrvati koji su se tukli bili znatno brojniji od njih.

Nakon 70 minuta, kako je rečeno u policiji, "stanje je stavljeno pod nadzor, ali nitko nije uhićen".

Policija je uspjela identificirati 15 Bošnjaka koji su sudjelovali u incidentu, a pripadnici hrvatske nacionalnosti će, kako je rečeno, biti identificirani danas i sutra.

Neki od njih će dobiti prekršajne, a neki kaznene prijave.

Za vrijeme tuče u Orašju oštećena su dva automobila, čiji su vlasnici Hrvati.


let's skpi this topic and talk about our cities.I'm fed up with islamic lies.

khapz,

do you really trust to muslims who writes lise here?noone trust them.

falcon iv
April 13th, 2005, 06:08 PM
are there some new projects from sarajevo?

www.sarajevo-rs.com

Sarajka
April 13th, 2005, 08:35 PM
^ A part of me hopes you truly believe all that. Then it's even funnier. :lol:

BosRoker
April 13th, 2005, 08:54 PM
This is the vibe i am getting:

Bosniak + Serb = dislike
Bosniak + Sprska people = HATE!
Croat + Bosniak = like
Croat + Serb = dislike
Sprska + Serb = like
Sprska + Croat= dislike

Where is Slovenia?

Croats in Croatia and Croats in BiH have different attitudes. The ones in BiH are generally more conservative.

BosRoker
April 13th, 2005, 09:07 PM
Well back on topic. Here's more news from our favorite ghetto. Apparently some chetniks got robbed.

Opljačkane prostorije BORS-a na Palama

Potpredsjednik Boračke organizacije RS Mihajlo Parađina izjavio je danas da Opštinska organizacija Pale u svojim kancelarijama nema finansijskih sredstava ni tajnih dokumenata te da mu nije jasno šta bi mogao biti motiv da neko obije njene prostorije.
"Mi nemamo para, naša tehnička oprema je skromna, a dokumenti su javni, tako da mi jedino preostaje da mislim da nekome smeta način na koji BORS radi i insistira na zaštiti i ostvarivanju prava boračke populacije", rekao je Parađina Agenciji SRNA.
Portparol Centra javne bezbjednosti Istočno Sarajevo Radovan Pejić rekao je Agenciji SRNA da je provala u prostorije Opštinske boračke organizacije Pale prijavljena Policijskoj stanici Pale jutros u 8.40 časova, nakon čega je po odobrenju tužioca izvršen uviđaj na licu mjesta.
"Nakon obavljenog uviđaja policija operativno radi na terenu na rasvjetljavanju ove prijave", rekao je Pejić.
On je potvrdio da su pripadnici Odjeljenja kriminalističke policije izuzeli određene predmete radi vještačenja, prenosi Radio Istocno Sarajevo.

MIMICA
April 14th, 2005, 04:52 AM
This is the vibe i am getting:

Bosniak + Serb = dislike
Bosniak + Sprska people = HATE!
Croat + Bosniak = like
Croat + Serb = dislike
Sprska + Serb = like
Sprska + Croat= dislike

Where is Slovenia?

Let that "falcon iv" talk to himself, since he has no idea what he is talking about. Basically, the Serbs only get along with themselves, and the Bosiaks and Croats are generally in good attitudes, except for some moments, but their relationships are GROWING well. :yes:

Falcon IV - If you think that the Croats hate the Bosnians, yet like the Serbs, go onto the Croatian part of this forum. You'll get a HUGE suprise, and learn something important, instead of what they are teaching you in your hate schools...:|

One more question, why do you have Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Bosniaks?

MIMICA
April 14th, 2005, 04:53 AM
facon iv, i'd also like to say good bye, since you're about to get banned from this forum, from all the lies that you've said...

KhApZ!
April 14th, 2005, 06:18 AM
Thanks for clearing that up for me...I was always curious whether the balkans were really at peace. I have done a bit of research on the war but it seems very biast against serbia as the aggressor? anyway i better not bring this up.

Lets just talk about this town/city....

ps. Mila isnt youre husband a Croat? (and you are Bosniak im guessing :))

MIMICA
April 14th, 2005, 06:40 AM
Thanks for clearing that up for me...I was always curious whether the balkans were really at peace. I have done a bit of research on the war but it seems very biast against serbia as the aggressor? anyway i better not bring this up.

Lets just talk about this town/city....

ps. Mila isnt youre husband a Croat? (and you are Bosniak im guessing :))

Mila is a Bosniak, and her husband is a Croat. This is probably just one of the many examples to proove falcon iv wrong when saying that "no one wants to deal with the Bosniaks". :|

As for your statement, "Sebia as the aggressor"...There are many interpretations. For example, Serbia had started attacking Bosnia and Herzegovina, and they were totally the aggressor in that situation. The only fighting that Bosniaks Soldiers did, was to protect its country, and nothing else. Not ONE Bosniak soldier had set foot on present day Serbia and Montenegro, so you were right in that case...

I personally, as do most people, believe that the war was everyones fault for not trying to keep the county going as hard as they wanted, but I blame Serbia and Montenegro for almost all the problems...

Now, answering your question, and expanding alittle, I'd like ALL the questions to stop about this subject, since falcon iv will simply troll it up, and get back to the photos/projects. :)

EDIT: As for your "Slovenian" question, they have always been sort of "out of the group" even in the times of Yugoslavia...It was basically part of the country, yet not REALLY "in it" if you know what I mean. :)

Markko
April 14th, 2005, 08:21 AM
Mila is a Bosniak, and her husband is a Croat. This is probably just one of the many examples to proove falcon iv wrong when saying that "no one wants to deal with the Bosniaks". :|

As for your statement, "Sebia as the aggressor"...There are many interpretations. For example, Serbia had started attacking Bosnia and Herzegovina, and they were totally the aggressor in that situation. The only fighting that Bosniaks Soldiers did, was to protect its country, and nothing else. Not ONE Bosniak soldier had set foot on present day Serbia and Montenegro, so you were right in that case...

I personally, as do most people, believe that the war was everyones fault for not trying to keep the county going as hard as they wanted, but I blame Serbia and Montenegro for almost all the problems...

Now, answering your question, and expanding alittle, I'd like ALL the questions to stop about this subject, since falcon iv will simply troll it up, and get back to the photos/projects. :)

EDIT: As for your "Slovenian" question, they have always been sort of "out of the group" even in the times of Yugoslavia...It was basically part of the country, yet not REALLY "in it" if you know what I mean. :)

We are always seen as the aggressor in the Balkans because the winner always writes the history...
What MIMICA has said is mainly propaganda that has been spread by the muslims and croats, as well as western countries. One reason how you can tell that this is their side's propaganda is because the war is always referred to as some outside aggression and not as a civil war as it was. It is a story that is supposed to make Bosnia look like a country that is ETHNICALLY BOSNIAN, even though there is no such thing as an ethnic bosnian. Its aim is to justify the muslim/croat position to Western voters, because its simple, so the people can easily be in favour of it. The thruth is too messy and gray, so America needed to make it black and white, good and bad, there could never be any middle ground. Why American administration took an anti-serb stance is a different long part of the story I don't have time to get into right now.However, the war can bassically be explained by the fact that Bosnia seceeded from SFRJ illegally just as Slovenia and Croatia and a civil war ensued. Blaming Serbia as republic for the war is the ultimate proof that what MIMICA is saying is propaganda because Serbia did not just send Serbs to invade a country, Serbs already lived there. Thats one misconception that outsiders to the conflict have because of major propaganda, that Serbs invaded a country they had nothing to do with. What acctually happened was that serbs living in BiH fought against seperation from Yugoslavia, with support coming from Serbia (well duh, they are our people) and everyone else fought for this, and i can't stress it enough, illegal independence. Serbia never started a war, and I believe that it never even declared war, however being that it was a civil war, I don't see why it would. Everyone chose their side, everyone fought for their sides beliefs, everyone suffered, everyone spread propaganda, everyone broke the rules of war (although how can there every be rules in war, if all rules were followed there would be no wars), however, serbs were the only side to lose the war, so they were the only side that did not get to write history. That is the reason for KhApZ sensing that their is a bias, because there is one. People from both sides on this forum are probably of the mind that the other side is more at fault, but the way I see it is it was a civil war mainly started by politicians and westerners. Choices have consequences and that is what all sides forgot.

MIMICA
April 14th, 2005, 08:39 AM
First of all, where didn't I state the fact that Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, and Croatia didn't leave illegally? :dunno: You'd think that if that many countries had left Serbia and Montenegro, there was something wrong! :|

Your telling me that I'm spitting some propaganda, but you have you realize that your doing the same thing. Of course you were told different things from Serbian point of view, and it would be just as biased as if any other Ex-Yugoslav country told it...

The breaking of Yugoslavia was a great mistake, not for the reason that they splitt, but that it could have been stopped if it wasn't for the different types of government...The things that I blame Serbia and Montenegro for, is for way they had destroyed everything in their paths, GREAT historical pieces, religious objects, it was INHUMAN.

EDIT: Your telling me that what "falcon iv" is saying is fair and nice...NO! What he is saying are some propoganda lies, and he singles out a relgion because of his selfish lies. :| :ohno:

Markko
April 14th, 2005, 09:09 AM
First of all, where didn't I state the fact that Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, and Croatia didn't leave illegally? :dunno: You'd think that if that many countries had left Serbia and Montenegro, there was something wrong! :|

Your telling me that I'm spitting some propaganda, but you have you realize that your doing the same thing. Of course you were told different things from Serbian point of view, and it would be just as biased as if any other Ex-Yugoslav country told it...

The breaking of Yugoslavia was a great mistake, not for the reason that they splitt, but that it could have been stopped if it wasn't for the different types of government...The things that I blame Serbia and Montenegro for, is for way they had destroyed everything in their paths, GREAT historical pieces, religious objects, it was INHUMAN.

EDIT: Your telling me that what "falcon iv" is saying is fair and nice...NO! What he is saying are some propoganda lies, and he singles out a relgion because of his selfish lies. :| :ohno:

First, falcon iv seems to be a spammer, so I usually ignore him...
Second, once again you are sounding silly when you act as if SCG came and attacked you
Third, I don't think that anything I said was based on propaganda, you just think its propaganda because you expect that since I am serb and I support serbs, I must just be full of propaganda. Everything I listed makes perfect sense, propaganda would be saying bosniaks are solely to blame they are nazis or something like that...anyway I'll be back tomorrow...

falcon iv
April 14th, 2005, 12:08 PM
Thanks for clearing that up for me...I was always curious whether the balkans were really at peace. I have done a bit of research on the war but it seems very biast against serbia as the aggressor? anyway i better not bring this up.

Lets just talk about this town/city....

ps. Mila isnt youre husband a Croat? (and you are Bosniak im guessing :))



khapz,do you really trust islamic lies?she has been lying all the time.she says that we were aaggressors.she is insane.islamic militants in 1992. tryed to kill all christians.serbia was not involved in war in former bosnia.please,don't trust muslims.their motivs to be false are their roots.for example,bosnia and herzegovina played croatia in siroki brijeg(herzegovina).all suporters on the stadium were against bosnia.they all supported croatia.do you want the text to read it?

let's talk about cities,not politics!

Sarajka
April 14th, 2005, 02:19 PM
^ Better be careful, Falcon. Bosniaks are already carrying out their attacks - did you hear about the suicide bombing in Belgrade last week? Or the hostage taking at the school in Banja Luka? I saw on the news there are even plans to drive Air Bosna planes into some of Istocno Sarajevo's hideous apartment blocks.

Sarajka
April 14th, 2005, 02:23 PM
For you, Khapz, not that Falcon iv really needs to be disproved to anyone who isn't a member of the KKK: "Bosnia's declaration of independence in March 1992 was the next flashpoint. Backed by the Yugoslav army, local Serb militias carved out several autonomous regions in Bosnia, which they declared Republika Srpska. Sarajevo, the Bosnian capital, was besieged and shelled by Serb forces for over three years (TIME, Aug. 23, 1993). Serbia's involvement in the war — in the form of both military and political support for Bosnian Serbs — brought international condemnation. The United Nations imposed economic sanctions on Yugoslavia in 1992. The massacre of thousands of Bosnian Muslims by Bosnian Serbs in Srebrenica in July 1995 was perceived as the worst war crime in Europe since World War II (TIME, Oct. 14, 1996)."

http://www.time.com/time/europe/timetrails/serbia/

Sve od Broda do Mostara,
pobijena naša raja.
Pobijena il' prognana
i po svijetu razaslana.
Do juče smo skupa bili,
zlo i dobro, sve, dijelili.
A sada nas protjeraše,
iz te Bosne, zemlje naše.

KhApZ!
April 14th, 2005, 04:27 PM
Thanks for that insight Mila, wow that is truly saddening :(

Falcon man I dont judge people due to their religion, here in Australia I have plenty of Muslim, Hindu, Christian, Jewish friends every religion under the sun.

I mean religion doesnt dictate how evil or non-trustworthy people are. Take Slobodam Milosevic for example, i have been doing alot of reading on him and he is named the infamous "Butcher of the Balkans" and he was a Christian.

SO to me religion plays no part in how good a person is...

ps. Incase you are thinking, no i am not a muslim :)

3tmk
April 14th, 2005, 08:17 PM
well this is closed...
we can never be too sure who started it all, but we can be all certain about the end.
now this thread seems to have been around for 4 days, we try as we can, but we cannot be on every thread. So next time you see something incorrect that has to be moderated, something that you consider ban worthy, please PM us, and we'll check it out ;)