The Chicago Methodist Church stands 173m above the streets of downtown.

But it stands on a 22 storey skyscraper, do you think this is the tallest? Or the traditional ULM?
This (173m)
http://www.americansinfonietta.org/Ted_Lane/ConventionPhotos/MC_Chicago2004/DSC02570a.JPG

or this?(161m)
http://www.ciam.unibo.it/models/fabry/web-giorgia/photos/big/ulm-donau.jpg

Can someone post more pics of the Chicago one?

The Ulm Münster!

A combination of a church and offices in one building
The building is constructed as a 21 story office tower with an 8 story spire
At the time of completion, the tower was the tallest building in Chicago and the second tallest in the world.
It is still the tallest church in the world

http://www.vanermengem.com/img/chicago/kveus069s.jpg

http://www.aviewoncities.com/building/chicagotemplebuilding.htm
They call it the tallets church, i don't agree. The church in Ulm in taller, because it's for 100% a church. The other is just a high-rise with a church on top.

Should BE UM ...
as Central plaza's top is also a church
with services on sunday ...

the traditional Ulm is the tallast, is 100% churche!!

This is a weird question, and a play on semantics. Do you mean highest, tallest?

Look at it in the sense of mountains. Everest, in the traditional sense is the world's highest mountain, 8,848 metres above sea level.

However, Mauna Kea in Hawaii, is 10,203 metres tall, but with a lot of it below sea level, thus is the tallest, but not the highest.

Yet, Chimborazo in Equador is only 6,267 metres above sea level yet is further away from the centre of the Earth (6,384,404 metres) than Everest (6,381,670 metres). This makes it the largest radius of the Earth.

All of this obviously pertains to the current time.

So, this church is neither the tallest (as that is measured from its base as a functional building) nor the highest (as there are many churches built on top of mountains far taller than any skyscraper).

So, no!

They call it the tallets church, i don't agree. The church in Ulm in taller, because it's for 100% a church. The other is just a high-rise with a church on top.

Exactly, like building a church on top of a mountain.

For example, a crypt underneath a church does not define part of its height, so why should a 22 storey building beneath one, or a mountan?

so the tallest church could be in La Paz therefore... 3600 metres over sea level

for me the highest is the church of the second pic. The first is too similar at a skyscraper.....

Indeed, the time of both is counted...

In the start, the end of construction was expected for 2030, after 2023 now 2020.

http://www.hawelka.org/spanelsko/vylet_Barcelona/Sagrada_familia_2021.JPG

This rather reminds me of all those "but do you count the spire/antenna/whatever if it's not an integral part of the structure??" debates... :laugh:

Since La Sagrada Familia isn't finished, and the church in Chicago IS on top of an office tower, and thus, if you're a purist in these matters, shouldn't count the tower's height, I'll go with Ulm (besides, I'm TOTALLY hooked on Gothic...) :okay:

Ulm

The Chicago Methodist Church stands 173m above the streets of downtown.

But it stands on a 22 storey skyscraper, do you think this is the tallest? Or the traditional ULM?
This (173m)
http://www.americansinfonietta.org/Ted_Lane/ConventionPhotos/MC_Chicago2004/DSC02570a.JPG

or this?(161m)
http://www.ciam.unibo.it/models/fabry/web-giorgia/photos/big/ulm-donau.jpg

Can someone post more pics of the Chicago one?


do the math man.. which one is bigger 173 or 161 it's simple

do the math man.. which one is bigger 173 or 161 it's simple

okay, so compare the one in La Paz

3600 or 173, which is bigger?:D

Anywayz, the Chicago Methodist Church building is not just a chruch on top of a building, the skyscraper was contructed on church land by the church, it is a full building on its own.

Still, I would say Ulm

btw, why does the Sagrada Familia take so long?

The Ulm Münster is officially the tallest church in the world. The OLV church in Breda the most beautiful!! :pepper::pepper::pepper:

After the Cathedral of Our Lady in Antwerp ^^

Ulm is the tallest!!

No question: it is Ulm Münster!

It is ULM MÜNSTER!

lolololol

Please expand the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Methodist_Church

Will perhaps Sanctuary of the Holy Martyrs of Christ King & StMary of Guadalupe in Tlaquepaque, Mexico ( http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=4265493 ) get the tallest church in the world?

Sagrada familia, when finish would be 172 m. So now, the highest one is the church in ULM, in 2050 we should post this trhead again to know wich one will be the talles! ;)

The Medodist Church in Chicago (about three blocks from my apartment) is first and formost a church. There is a large sanctuary on the ground floor, and at the top is a small chapel. The church was already on this sight in the 1920's, and when they decided to rebuild their building, they decided to add office space above the main sanctuary. This was to bring in income to pay for the church as well as it's community outreach. They also built a chapel at the top, which is the highest chapel in the world without question. Yes, the Ulm is the tallest single purpose church in the world, but the building in Chicago remains the tallest steeple, and has the highest chapel.

That Chicago one looks pretty rad.

The tallest building in Maine is a church. I think it's 202 or 220 feet or so.

Correct me if i am wrong but doesnt The Central Plaza in Hong Kong have a chapel or church on the top floor? that would be some 350m up i guess...

I think that we are talking about churches, not buildings with churches or chapels. Anyway, I think that some modern mosques minarete's are higher than any church.

Are there churches under construction with pinnacle heights more than the height of Ulm Münster ( http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=218410 )?

La Sagrada Familia main tower when finished by 2020!!
:D

The Great Hassan 2 Mosque in Casablanca, Morocco is 200m.

http://www.globalgeografia.com/album/marocco/casablanca.jpg

thought its was the one in Ulm...

Again, it depends if we are talking about tallest or highest.

It isn't complicated to differentiate.

The Great Hassan 2 Mosque in Casablanca, Morocco is 200m.

You could argue that a mosque is not a church.

Ulm Münster! of course... :cheers:

That mosque may be the tallest religious building, but the Münster is the tallest catholic building.

The Ulm Münster is a Protestant Church (Lutheran) I think, not Catholic.

The Ulm Münster is a Protestant Church (Lutheran) I think, not Catholic.that's right, it's "evangelisch".

Sagrada familia, when finish would be 172 m. So now, the highest one is the church in ULM, in 2050 we should post this trhead again to know wich one will be the talles! ;)but building a high church today is nothing special, you should remind that it is over 700 years old and was finished in 1890.

I'm going to go with the one in Chicago after reading InTheLoop's post. Not only that, but I want to go against everyone else. :)

Riverside Church, in upper Manhattan, is pretty big.

http://www.telescreen.org/circleline/IM000141.JPG
http://www.worldfromtheweb.com/Parks/Grants/63635_09.jpg
http://www.telescreen.org/circleline/IM000138.JPG
http://www.morningside-heights.net/121st.jpg

Surely the 'highest' church is Rasta.......;)

^^ Riverside in NY is the tallest church in North America. The tallest
church in Toronto is St. James Cathedral (Anglican) at 92.9 metres/
305 feet, built in 1853. It is the second tallest in Canada after St Joseph's
Oratory in Montreal. Here is St James:

http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/1015/2005sept18stjamesiii1gj.jpg

btw, why does the Sagrada Familia take so long?

The Sagrada Familia is an Expiatory Temple meaning the church is financed by private donations (and I think donations from corporations and similar are not allowed).

Hence that slow progress, the construction of the church is thanks to the contributions received from the faithful and admirers of Gaudi's work and it's believed to be completed by 2025.

At present, I'd say is the Ulm church, a 'proper' one from top to bottom

Lincoln Cathedral used to have a wooden spire ontop of each of the towers incased in leed taking the height to 160 meters until it collapsed in in 1549. It was the tallest building in the world from 1311 until then and the first building ever to surpass the great pyramid of Giza in height.

http://www.sp3ccylad.com/lincoln-cathedral.jpg

It's obviously the Chicago Methodist. :|

Isnt there a church near the top of 2ifc or one of the other HK skyscapers?

Without doubt it's the Ulm Münster. This is a church.

The Chicago methodist is a tower with a church on top. Using this criteria the Central Plaza in Hong Kong with a chapel on top is taller than the Chicago methodist.

Still, I love the idea of the Chicago methodist, it's something Chicago should be proud of as is rather unique in it's design.

But it ain't the tallest church in the world, just like the chapel at the top of the Central Plaza.

The Chicago methodist is a tower with a church on top.

Actually it is a Church 'Building"

The building contains 3 sanctuaries: a 2-story main sanctuary on the ground floor seating 1,200; the Dixon Chapel on the 2nd floor; and the "Sky Chapel" below the steeple, 400 feet high. It isn't just a building with a church planted on top.

Nevertheless, there is a difference between church building and church, therefore the Ulm Munster is the tallest church, while The Chicago Methodist is the tallest church building :)

Riverside Church was designed by the Rockeffellers when was being built.

ULM MÜNSTER would be the tallest traditional church & Chicago Temple Methodist would be the tallest non-traditional church.

There are other high rise churches that are interesting.
Methodist House in Hong Kong is interesting and fairly tall at 99m.

From wikipedia:

Ulm Münster is a cathedral and the tallest church in the world, its steeple measuring 161.53 m (530') high and containing 768 steps.

of course it's ulm.
I've been on the top of the Münster in 143m, its gigantic!!

Isnt there a church near the top of 2ifc or one of the other HK skyscapers?
There is a church at the top of Central Plaza. The developer thought spirituality was lacking in the world of skyscrapers.

Funny noone has mentioned the Kölner Dom (Cologne Cathedral) yet. It's not the tallest at only 157m, but it's still very impressive, and definitely up their with the "super talls".

Also it has to be one of the coolest churches in the world.

http://www.wermelskirchen.de/stadt/tourismus/umland/koelnerdom.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Koelner_Dom.jpg

all this and people call Christianity a non-profit organization..

all this and people call Christianity a non-profit organization..

What are you talking about? And Christianity is a religion, not an organization. :sly:

The Sagrada Familia is an Expiatory Temple meaning the church is financed by private donations (and I think donations from corporations and similar are not allowed).

Hence that slow progress, the construction of the church is thanks to the contributions received from the faithful and admirers of Gaudi's work and it's believed to be completed by 2025.

At present, I'd say is the Ulm church, a 'proper' one from top to bottom

NOt only that,the donations are gained by the tourism that the country gets,and the tourism is mostly gotten in the summer,that is why constructions only happen during the summer and not the winter,I've been there,it is simply amazing and it will be gorgeous once it is done,but for now,can't say it is the tallest.

I wonder what is the purpose of building tall religious buildings? If building big,i would agree for it is to accomodate worshippers, but tall? :sly:

^easy. the early builders of churches wanted to feel closer to god so they built, spires to reach for the heavens!. Also a church spire can be seen for miles, which ment the township was established and worshippers were welcome.
I love church spires.There the most graceful of all structures.
the Cologne cathedral are the 2nd highest in world or tallest twin spires.
Ive studied Australia;s top 300 and spent many years researching stats etc.even made a model display which took 4 years which is on exhibit in st marys sydney.
I had many oz churches measured by surveyors and will eventually publish a book.
Australia;s tallest church spire is the magnificant St patricks cathedral in melbourne at 105m.

http://www.travelvictoria.com.au/images/eastmelbourne/photos/07.jpg


The Beavais Cathedral once had a central tower 153m high (1569) but collapsed 4 years later in 1573) due to poor structural supports. It still boasts highest church ceiling in world-48m.
http://arts-sciences.cua.edu/gl/images/safran_slides/Medieval_Art/13thCentury/BeauvaisStPeterChoir.jpg


highest roof at 48m/160ft or 60m/200ft to roof ridge)
http://romanes2.free.fr//Saint_Pierre_de_Beauvais0026-2.jpg

^ Just as i thought. I just need more confirmation on that hence the question i asked. Wow OZ sure has some mighty-amazing churches.. My girl is currently studying there (in MElbourne) and she's fallen in love with the city.

^easy. the early builders of churches wanted to feel closer to god so they built, spires to reach for the heavens!. Also a church spire can be seen for miles, which ment the township was established and worshippers were welcome.
I love church spires.There the most graceful of all structures.
the Cologne cathedral are the 2nd highest in world or tallest twin spires.
Ive studied Australia;s top 300 and spent many years researching stats etc.even made a model display which took 4 years which is on exhibit in st marys sydney.
I had many oz churches measured by surveyors and will eventually publish a book.
Australia;s tallest church spire is the magnificant St patricks cathedral in melbourne at 105m.

http://www.travelvictoria.com.au/images/eastmelbourne/photos/07.jpg


The Beavais Cathedral once had a central tower 153m high (1569) but collapsed 4 years later in 1573) due to poor structural supports. It still boasts highest church ceiling in world-48m.
http://arts-sciences.cua.edu/gl/images/safran_slides/Medieval_Art/13thCentury/BeauvaisStPeterChoir.jpg


highest roof at 48m/160ft or 60m/200ft to roof ridge)
http://romanes2.free.fr//Saint_Pierre_de_Beauvais0026-2.jpg

Interesting designs you have there...

^ I think some people are mis-reading Culwulla's post. He posted photo's of two churches, the first, St Patricks is in Melbourne, Australia, the 2nd Beauvais Cathedral, is in Beauvais, France.

Has anyone heard of the church or cathedral they are building in Barcelona? Its supposed to be really really tall. Its on Barcelona's under construction diagram on www.skyscraperpage.com. What about Westminster Abbey?

Has anyone heard of the church or cathedral they are building in Barcelona? Its supposed to be really really tall. Its on Barcelona's under construction diagram on www.skyscraperpage.com. What about Westminster Abbey?
Messages #10, #11, #23, #29 and #41 in this thread
See this thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=184088) in the Spanish Forum

Westminster Abbey could be one of the tallest in London

The Ulmer Munster is the tallest, it is a real church!
I've been there too, it was a fantastic view as i remember.

The Sagrada familia in Barcelona was impressive!

The ''O.LV.'' church in my hometown Breda is beautiful, but ''only'' 96 meters high.

Anyone have any ideas on what the tallest and/or highest church west of the Mississippi River might be?

chicago has the tallest spire no doubt , but it´s shaped like a building , church building.

About the Sagrada Familia: "the tower's total height (170 m) will be one metre less than that of Montjuïc, as Gaudí believed that his work should not surpass that of God." (wikipedia)

Ulmer Munster will remain the highest for ages then. The tallest in France are the Rouen Cathedral 151m, and the Strasbourg Cathedral 141m (see, it's always **1m)!

chicago has the tallest spire no doubt.

Are you sure of this ?

http://www.photosmaville.com/albums/60/016.jpg

brilliant

I have been up the Ulmer Munster and its an amazing piece of architecture. The tallest proper church. Churches perched atop skyscrapers are just afterthoughts "the one in chicago"