Tonights Yep:


"More City Offices to be turned into homes"

LCC has approved plans for the conversion of offices to be turned to apartments on Regent St.

An entirely new 3rd and 4th floor will be added, along with a 7 storey building next to the existing site. In total 272 apartments will be built.


The rendering shown looks impressive, and will make a fine addition to the newly emerging Northern Quarter, next to the North St/Concord St developments. Must be a 1000 apartments plus being developed in this part of the city centre.

I also read the YEP and the renderings do like nice.

Will make a welcome addition to the newly developing Northern quarter. This area will come into its own in the next few years.

Concord Street is nearing completion too.

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http://www.citispace.co.uk
http://www.carterjonas.co.uk (http://www.carterjonas.co.uk/planning-development/news.cfm?newsID=364)

Looks rather good - but what the hell are we going to do about the A64 flyover - i mean just what were they thinking when they built that?

just what were they thinking when they built that?

Motorway city of the '70s

There's been scaffolding going up on Regent's Park House for the last couple of days. I assume the redevelopment is about to begin, which would be just as well since the building is now looking decidedly tatty.

There's been scaffolding going up on Regent's Park House for the last couple of days. I assume the redevelopment is about to begin, which would be just as well since the building is now looking decidedly tatty.

Yes demolition work is now going on. The 20/20 development, if in fact it is a separate scheme (and it appears to be from the renderings) , must be very nearby. I like the way that what was known as the Leylands has now been renamed the Northern Quarter ! Does that sound any better or more gentrified?

Yes demolition work is now going on. The 20/20 development, if in fact it is a separate scheme (and it appears to be from the renderings) , must be very nearby. I like the way that what was known as the Leylands has now been renamed the Northern Quarter ! Does that sound any better or more gentrified?

More estate agency speak, if you ask me, although telling people you live in the Leylands sounds a bit Hyacinth Bucket, don't you think? The builders are certainly cracking on with Regent's Park House, though. The top two floors seemed to have been gutted when I drove past this morning.

Still no news on where 20/20 is going to be??

More estate agency speak, if you ask me, although telling people you live in the Leylands sounds a bit Hyacinth Bucket, don't you think? The builders are certainly cracking on with Regent's Park House, though. The top two floors seemed to have been gutted when I drove past this morning.

Still no news on where 20/20 is going to be??

Yes - there is a lot of snobbery involved, though hardly anyone has lived in the Leylands since 1936 (there is one small scale council post war residential development called Lady Park). Incidentally, the first slum clearance of (part of) the Leylands took place as long ago as 1906/7 including Templar Street. Much of that street has never been built on since and when the new Harewood Quarter is complete it will have been undeveloped for more than a century - a waste of scarce land resources I would have thought.

The only information about 20/20 I could elicit is that it is to be in the Skinner Lane/Regent Street area - which I had already gathered.

Yes - there is a lot of snobbery involved, though hardly anyone has lived in the Leylands since 1936 (there is one small scale council post war residential development called Lady Park). Incidentally, the first slum clearance of (part of) the Leylands took place as long ago as 1906/7 including Templar Street. Much of that street has never been built on since and when the new Harewood Quarter is complete it will have been undeveloped for more than a century - a waste of scarce land resources I would have thought.

The only information about 20/20 I could elicit is that it is to be in the Skinner Lane/Regent Street area - which I had already gathered.


Sorry, that council residential development (which I think may actually be a housing association scheme) is called Lady Beck.

I note approval is being sought for a six storey block of 30 flates in Skinner Lane. I think this will be the fifth development either u/c or proposed for that immediate area of the Northern Quarter (aka the Leylands).

I note what is another development - the fifth or sixth - in this immediate vicinity SkinnerLane/ Regent Street:-

Application 20/325/05/FU
Received on 06/07/2005
Description
part 8 and 9 storey block comprising 37 flats ground and first floor office and with ground floor car parking
Location
15 LEYLANDS ROAD LEEDS 3077-3424 LS2 1AR MAJ

Completion of development of "smart pads" nearing completion in March 2006.

Dont like them, they look tacky in my opinion, and this area already has flats like that next to building college, I hope there isnt loads of these in the next 10 years.

Any photos?

The apartments at Citisace (Regent Park House ) are nothing like those at Concord Street or Lovell House.
These apartments are most akin to the Smart pads at West Point, except that here there is a whole development of them.
There is a show apartment available I believe.

sorry no pics at this time

I hope it doesn't look like the concord street development, that's what worried me when I saw the coloured balconies.

It's a different developer but you're right about the colouring. Seems to be a trend for the area as Lovell House (same developer as Concord St, Citywall) has coloured glazing to parts of the building too.

http://www.citispace.co.uk

This one's been quiet for some time since the conversion of the block fronting Regent Street. But work's now started on the new build at the back.



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It's still a pretty dreary part of town but there's more development afoot just round the corner. Note the marketing people's optimistic assessment of how long it takes to get to the Victoria Quarter.



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As that last picture makes clear, this is in part of the Leylands- now grandly renamed as the Northern Quarter - the vast majority of which was swept away in 1936 when Regent Street was widened. Stangely however, this street, Leylands Road, did not exist until 1952.

As that last picture makes clear, this is in part of the Leylands- now grandly renamed as the Northern Quarter - the vast majority of which was swept away in 1936 when Regent Street was widened. Stangely however, this street, Leylands Road, did not exist until 1952.

If it's any consolation to you, this part of town is referred to as Mabgate in the City Centre Action Plan. A much better title in my opinion, having at least some history to it.

If it's any consolation to you, this part of town is referred to as Mabgate in the City Centre Action Plan. A much better title in my opinion, having at least some history to it.

So has the name the Leylands !

So has the name the Leylands !

Sounds like a 1970s black country Industrial estate ! I prefer the Mabgate.. sounds rather posh.

Sounds like a 1970s black country Industrial estate ! I prefer the Mabgate.. sounds rather posh.

I prefer Mabgate too, but posh? A 'Mab' was a prostitute, you know...

City of Mabgate makes Leeds sound like a big place!

Sounds like a 1970s black country Industrial estate ! I prefer the Mabgate.. sounds rather posh.

So you must be one of those people who prefer names like Lumiere (we already have a Light don't we - so why not have another one but this time in French!) or Broadgate (instead of say Lewis's ?. Very posh, mark*ie. A rose by any other name ?

So you must be one of those people who prefer names like Lumiere (we already have a Light don't we - so why not have another one but this time in French!) or Broadgate (instead of say Lewis's ?. Very posh, mark*ie. A rose by any other name ?

Ah, and you must be one of those people who prefers names such as 'Lard' and 'Coal' and 'Spit'? I think maybe 'Coal Mine Tower' instead of Lumiere might work. Maybe 'Phlegm On The Ground Shopping Centre' instead of Broadgate?

Subliving.

Ah, and you must be one of those people who prefers names such as 'Lard' and 'Coal' and 'Spit'? I think maybe 'Coal Mine Tower' instead of Lumiere might work. Maybe 'Phlegm On The Ground Shopping Centre' instead of Broadgate?

Subliving.

Yes I prefer names like Clay Pit Lane or Swinegate ! :)

[QUOTE=Subliving;12817786 Maybe 'Phlegm On The Ground Shopping Centre' instead of Broadgate?

Subliving.[/QUOTE]

I think 'Gum on the Ground Shopping Centre' would be more appropriate for Leeds !

I think 'Gum on the Ground Shopping Centre' would be more appropriate for Leeds !

You really are the wettest blanket in a pile of soggy, wet blankets, Fred. But we love you for it. :lol:

Subliving.

You really are the wettest blanket in a pile of soggy, wet blankets, Fred. But we love you for it. :lol:

Subliving.

A very realistic wet blanket I think - and thanks very much for the affection!

A very realistic wet blanket I think - and thanks very much for the affection!

Wouldn't have you any other way, you make me think and question why I believe what I believe about things, something which I like in a person!

Anyway, as for the tirade about nomenclature...

I think using posh, possibly pretentious names is quite useful. Firstly, they give an aspirational feel to a place, even if that place may not live up to that expectation. Think of the two different major projects in Leeds and Manchester - Eastgate and Lumiere. Lets be honest, the design of both is pretty similar. However due to the savvier name of the latter, it seems to have gained a much greater respect on this forum. If Lumiere had been named 'Wellington Tower' I can't see it having had the same response.

Subliving.

Wouldn't have you any other way, you make me think and question why I believe what I believe about things, something which I like in a person!

Anyway, as for the tirade about nomenclature...

I think using posh, possibly pretentious names is quite useful. Firstly, they give an aspirational feel to a place, even if that place may not live up to that expectation. Think of the two different major projects in Leeds and Manchester - Eastgate and Lumiere. Lets be honest, the design of both is pretty similar. However due to the savvier name of the latter, it seems to have gained a much greater respect on this forum. If Lumiere had been named 'Wellington Tower' I can't see it having had the same response.

Subliving.


I'm glad I make you question. Often what is more important than the answer is the question !

I fully understand what you mean about these posh names and the image they present to the world. I just feel that many of them are just that bit too pretentious in the land of 'luv'.

My mum always used to quote someone, I've forgotten who now, something like, "I don't agree with a word you're saying, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it!"

Do you really see Leeds as being in the 'Land of luv' though? Down here, not a single person I've spoken to about Leeds has recognised it as being a part of Yorkshire until I've actually pointed it out. Believe it or not, Londoners are not quite so naive about regional cities as many would like to say. They know which the largest regional cities are, and always include Leeds in these. However, the mistake they tend to make is the location of these cities. They have both Leeds and Manchester far closer to London than they actually are, which is surely a compliment rather than an insult.

Anyway, to the crux of my point. If Leeds and Manchester are no longer intrinsically linked to Yorkshire and Lancashire respectively, should we really artificially force this link to continue? I personally no longer see the larger cities of this country being linked to their counties. Don't know if this opinion is shared, but it seems to be the southern way of thinking - which I suppose is the way forward.

Subliving.

My mum always used to quote someone, I've forgotten who now, something like, "I don't agree with a word you're saying, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it!"

Do you really see Leeds as being in the 'Land of luv' though? Down here, not a single person I've spoken to about Leeds has recognised it as being a part of Yorkshire until I've actually pointed it out. Believe it or not, Londoners are not quite so naive about regional cities as many would like to say. They know which the largest regional cities are, and always include Leeds in these. However, the mistake they tend to make is the location of these cities. They have both Leeds and Manchester far closer to London than they actually are, which is surely a compliment rather than an insult.

Anyway, to the crux of my point. If Leeds and Manchester are no longer intrinsically linked to Yorkshire and Lancashire respectively, should we really artificially force this link to continue? I personally no longer see the larger cities of this country being linked to their counties. Don't know if this opinion is shared, but it seems to be the southern way of thinking - which I suppose is the way forward.

Subliving.

Whether or not you see it as the land of 'luv' much depends in which circles you move. Have a saunter down to the market - the folk there won't think much of the pretentiousness you seem to espouse (in names anyway)

Whether or not you see it as the land of 'luv' much depends in which circles you move. Have a saunter down to the market - the folk there won't think much of the pretentiousness you seem to espouse (in names anyway)

Whilst working in the Victoria Quarter throughout the last summer, I spent most of my lunch times in and around that area, from the really cool sandwhich shop at the front of the market, which I forget the name of, through the fish and chip shop at the side, and I would also go into the market for my lunchtime bunch of grapes. I've always been fairly well spoken, and no one in there seemed to have an issue conversing with me. There was one particular chap I don't remember the name of who used to give me free stuff for being 'such a polite and well mannered young lad'.

I think it's a common mistake to think that it's the well spoken who like to eshew those who speak with a regional accent. I see it far more in the reverse. The most unaccepting people tend come from the other angle.

Subliving.

Whilst working in the Victoria Quarter throughout the last summer, I spent most of my lunch times in and around that area, from the really cool sandwhich shop at the front of the market, which I forget the name of, through the fish and chip shop at the side, and I would also go into the market for my lunchtime bunch of grapes. I've always been fairly well spoken, and no one in there seemed to have an issue conversing with me. There was one particular chap I don't remember the name of who used to give me free stuff for being 'such a polite and well mannered young lad'.

I think it's a common mistake to think that it's the well spoken who like to eshew those who speak with a regional accent. I see it far more in the reverse. The most unaccepting people tend come from the other angle.

Subliving.


You may well be right, and I don't talk with a broad local accent - at least I don't think so. And I do not appreciate sloppy speech, whatever the accent
But actually I was thinking more of the Yorkshire trait to call a spade a spade and not a fancy French name. Also the juxtaposition of say Lumiere with Wellington Street or Malmaison with Swinegate is a bit idiosyncratic you must concede - n'est ce pas? Having said that, I shouldn't think it will be possible to buy mushy peas in either,which could make the 'luvs' forever prejudiced against them ! :)