Which Canadian city will host a world event, after Vancouver hosts the 2010 Olympics, whether it be the Winter or Summer Olympics, Commonwealth Games, Winter or Summer Universiade, Expo World's Fair, or the Pan American Games? OR do you see the whole nation hosting a FIFA event - most specifically, the FIFA World Cup.

i think it's toronto's turn to host something or other.

^^^ You would think that since they havent done so, but really it could be any of the cities.

...none because the world would've ended when Vancouver hosted 2010.

gotta go with that one. :(

finaly.. the FINA championships in Montréal this coming summer.

Edmonton World Master Games 2005
FINA World Championships Montreal 2005
-------Future-------
Vancouver Winter Olympics 2010
FIFA World Youth Championship 2007
-------Predict-------
Hamilton Commonwealth Games 2014
Toronto Expo 2015

Depends what you mean by "world event"

Depends what you mean by "world event"

the "world events" are in my original topic maker post.

edm or tdot

It's Toronto's turn...

just a little off-topic. has anybody seen this version someone made of the NYC 2012 Olympic Bid logo? lol.....


http://www.gothamist.com/images/2004_04_logospoof.jpg





its so true! :cheers:

I think that in the next 10 to 20 years, if the popularity of Football (the real one) keep going up, we will see the world cup in Canada. Its totally real with the final being played in the big O (73000 capacity):D

Well in 2007 the World under 20 championships will be held in Canada (thats the second largest FIFA event) with games happening or sure in Edmonton and Toronto with 4 other cities in the running.

^ i think Vancouver will definetely be part of the four. the Whitecaps are lobying very very very hard for this and there's a lot of public support for it to be here in Vancouver. it's the same in Victoria.

Umm Id have to say Montreal, or Toronto ..

I think that in the next 10 to 20 years, if the popularity of Football (the real one) keep going up, we will see the world cup in Canada. Its totally real with the final being played in the big O (73000 capacity):D


It would need real grass wouldn't it?

I highly doubt we will see any major stadium being built with a capacity over 45000 in the next 20 years (Calgary is the only exception but chances are it will be less than 50 000). In that case if a large soccer event ever came here I would have to think Edmonton would play the prominent role in hosting it. I'm not being a homer here either, personally I wish soccer was a desease we could rid North America of. Just looking at the venues available, and considering were a nation that doesn't really have the need for any more massive stadiums the chances of a second 50 000+ being built in Toronto/Montreal/vancouver would be slim.



Next big event would be Edmonton or Toronto.

Edmonton because of it's history of large sporting events, and Toronto because it's batting a really low percentage when it comes to major events and you would have to think is due.

I'm more than happy for Toronto to keep hosting major international events like TIFF...and that's every year...not once in a lifetime.






KGB

whats the TIFF??

9OSHO: the SKYDOME can hold International level footbal matches with natural grass, it was done last year, it can be done again.

For the Big O in Montreal, I think they did have natural grass way before for the olympics and some other events, it can be done too... the only hurdle is the retractable roof, which doesn't retract anymore.

9OSHO: the SKYDOME can hold International level footbal matches with natural grass, it was done last year, it can be done again.

For the Big O in Montreal, I think they did have natural grass way before for the olympics and some other events, it can be done too... the only hurdle is the retractable roof, which doesn't retract anymore.

I never realized they temporarly put in grass in Skydome...excuse me Rogers Center. Would this be something they would be able to do for a two or three week long event? I'm guessing you could rig up some sort of sprinkler system at Rogers Center but the Big O would be far more challenging.

If anything the final for the world cup would be held in the west, most likely Edmonton.

I never realized they temporarly put in grass in Skydome...excuse me Rogers Center. Would this be something they would be able to do for a two or three week long event? I'm guessing you could rig up some sort of sprinkler system at Rogers Center but the Big O would be far more challenging.

I think it took them two weeks to get everything perfect for the 2 games played last year (in 2 days).

The big O shouldn't be more/less complicated because bith of them are concrete structures and both had natural grass before.

http://www.planetmalek.com/albums/2004-07-31-Football/IMG_3747.jpg

http://www.planetmalek.com/albums/2004-07-31-Football/IMG_0902.jpg

http://www.planetmalek.com/albums/2004-07-31-Football/IMG_0930.jpg

Well, I just wish the best for Toronto, after they lost the Olympic Games biddings...

I hope they will get the Expo...

As a center for world affairs, Montreal would probably get another world events in the future...

The city already hosted not only world events, but global events in the past, namely the Summer Olympic Games of 1976 and the Universal Exposition of 1967--- an exceptional remark for a city to host 2 global events of its kind.

The city is ready to host another rounds of world events. To begin with, Montreal will host the FINA Championships on July this year. And next year, the city will host another global event for gays and lesbians....the 1st World Outgames, which will bring around 16,000 participants from around the globe.

FINA is the second largest olympic sporting event after Olympics themselves.

Edmonton could probably do with a little global attention. Its been awhile since we had a World Expo. It would do a good job with something like that.

Toronto be good for the Summer Olympics but thats twenty or thirty years away thanks to Vancouver and especially should New York win 2012. I think Toronto will welcome the world one day. Eventually the world will run out of 'fresh' host cities so its turn will come. God forbid somewhere like Winnipeg or Calgary / Edmonton win the Summer Games over Toronto. We'd never hear the end of it. LOL

FINA is the second largest olympic sporting event after Olympics themselves.


I don't think so. FINA is only for swimming, diving and other aquatic sports.

I don't think so. FINA is only for swimming, diving and other aquatic sports.

FINA is the second largest olympic sporting event after Olympics themselves? HA! What about the Winter Olympics, Paralympic Winter and Summer Games, Asian Winter and Summer Games, East Asian Games, Pan American Games, Commonwealth Games.....the list goes on. That was a stupid statement.

Viagra Falls

FINA is the second largest olympic sporting event after Olympics themselves? HA! What about the Winter Olympics, Paralympic Winter and Summer Games, Asian Winter and Summer Games, East Asian Games, Pan American Games, Commonwealth Games.....the list goes on. That was a stupid statement.

in term of importance and fellowship yes!!

those you named aren't global, even the winter games!!

in term of importance and fellowship yes!!

those you named aren't global, even the winter games!!

Though the point is that these sporting events are much much larger than the FINA. Whether or not they were "global" wasn't the issue.....and the Winter Games are not global? Where are you from?

Toronto............EXPO2015
Toronto is one of the few worldclass cities that has never hosted a world event.
Olympics don't mean much as far as I'm concerned. Two week carnival, barracated like a fortress and then nothing but bills to pay.
Expo would allow Toronto is shine to the world for 6 months. Thats what Toronto should be aiming for, heart and soul

Though the point is that these sporting events are much much larger than the FINA. Whether or not they were "global" wasn't the issue.....and the Winter Games are not global? Where are you from?

ok this is my last post regarding this subjet, do some research.

Winter olympics are only followed by countries with a winter season, and they have to be rich(er) too.

This eliminates, Africa, South America and most of Asia. Thats global for you?:)

With over 1.4 billion viewers, yes it is, i suggest you do some more research.

Mayor Tremblay just announced that the Banks got together to give 1.25 million$ to the World Aquatics championship this summer.

They have 70% of the money that the City said it would garantee...things are moving along well!

Don't you need more than just one stadium to host World Soccer?

Other than the skydome, I can't think of anything that would be big enough to host the event in Toronto.

But I don't think FIFA should even go to Canada, think about the embarassement of our Canadian squad.. we're going to get nowhere.

ok this is my last post regarding this subjet, do some research.

Winter olympics are only followed by countries with a winter season, and they have to be rich(er) too.

This eliminates, Africa, South America and most of Asia. Thats global for you?:)


So what? The most recent WOG have had over 2 billion viewers........the Olympics, winter and summer, are a GLOBAL event. That's a fact and is not debatable.

So what if some nations from S.A., Africa, and Asia don't participate......the point is that they are always welcomed to join unlike events like the Commonwealths or the Pan Ams.





Regarding the FIFA World Cup, there needs to be 9 stadiums and with each stadium having a capacity of at least 40,000.

In order:
Toronto
Ottawa
Calgary/Edmonton

I think it's ridiculous that the biggest event Ottawa's ever hosted were the Francophonie Games in 2001.

Which Canadian city will host a world event, after Vancouver hosts the 2010 Olympics, whether it be the Winter or Summer Olympics, Commonwealth Games, Winter or Summer Universiade, Expo World's Fair, or the Pan American Games? OR do you see the whole nation hosting a FIFA event - most specifically, the FIFA World Cup.

I would have to say Moose Jaw!

I would say Barrie.. the live 8 concert ..

ok this is my last post regarding this subjet, do some research.

Winter olympics are only followed by countries with a winter season, and they have to be rich(er) too.

This eliminates, Africa, South America and most of Asia. Thats global for you?:)


pffffttttt haven't you ever watched "Cool Runnings"??? :weirdo:

All I can say is you better do a good job Vancouver, or you'll screw it up for the rest of us....lol j/k. Vancity will host amazingly.

Hard to say who will be next though when saying any world event. It's just the luck of the draw.
Better question would be who deserves it. My biased opinion is obviously Toronto, but in all fairness we are the largest city but never had many international sports events.
Edmonton and Quebec City (another winter olympics) are great Candidates. Winnipeg should also be given a chance at hosting a non-olympic event.

All I can say is you better do a good job Vancouver, or you'll screw it up for the rest of us....lol j/k. Vancity will host amazingly.

Hard to say who will be next though when saying any world event. It's just the luck of the draw.
Better question would be who deserves it. My biased opinion is obviously Toronto, but in all fairness we are the largest city but never had many international sports events.
Edmonton and Quebec City (another winter olympics) are great Candidates. Winnipeg should also be given a chance at hosting a non-olympic event.


Security for Vancouver will be an issue. $185 million and 12,000 personnel ain't enough.

For the expo who else would be in the running other than Toronto, Hong Kong?

Pretty sad that security is now such an issue post 9/11. Not that I blame Vancouver in the least bit. But it's just really unfortunate that it has come to this.

Anyways, I did'nt know just HK was bidding for expo. That increases T.O. chances. But then when I hear proposals like that underwater tube/subway thing. Is'nt that going a little to far there.

Anyways, I did'nt know just HK was bidding for expo. That increases T.O. chances. But then when I hear proposals like that underwater tube/subway thing. Is'nt that going a little to far there.

NO NO i have no idea if HK is biding, i was just making a sugesting that maybe they were. Anyway what underwater subway thing? I havent heard.

For the expo who else would be in the running other than Toronto, Hong Kong?


Cities that might bid for EXPO2015: Istanbul, San Francisco, Torino (Turin) & Toronto

Hong Kong's not in the running.

^ don't forget Edmonton is also in the running for Expo 2014.

Cities that might bid for EXPO2015: Istanbul, San Francisco, Torino (Turin) & Toronto

Istanbul and San Francisco are going to be tough opponents if they are bidding, but maybe one day Toronto will host a true major world event i guess.

If those are the competeters than i think we may have it. The only one I would be worried about is SanFran.

Well, anyone could win this and I wouldn't underestimate Istanbul because it is a great city. Also, I heard Dubai is in the bidding too, but it's anyone's game right now, remember when Hannover beat Toronto?

NO NO i have no idea if HK is biding, i was just making a sugesting that maybe they were. Anyway what underwater subway thing? I havent heard.

Hard to describe but really stupid if you ask me. Essentially they were proposing a tube from Exhibition place to the portlands underwater in Lake Ontario that was supposed to carry people directly from one side of the expo to the other.
I'm not sure if they're actually seriously considering this. Just use Queens Quey for streetcars would be easier and only about 5 minutes slower

Wow neat i never heard of that. Probley a waste of money but thats a neat idea. Where did you hear that, newspaper?

^ Canadians are pretty Conserative when it comes to architecture & public mega projects, so I'm pretty sure it'll never be built.

It's offical....Hamilton is bidding for the 2014 Commonwealth Games

Hamilton eyes 2014 Commonwealth Games
The Hamilton Spectator(Jun 24, 2005)

Hamilton is back in the Games-bidding game and already facing looming deadlines.

Key figures in the city's bid for the 2010 Commonwealth Games had anticipated yesterday's announcement that Canada is looking for a city to go after the 2014 Games. So they're on their marks to meet July 22 and Nov.1 drop-dead dates for delivering an intent to bid and a formal bid to win the endorsement of Commonwealth Games Canada.

"We've never stopped meeting," said Hamilton 2010 president Jagoda Pike. "We've always felt that if the first bid didn't work we'd go at it again. This time with the work we've done and what we know, we feel we have even more traction."

Pike, publisher of The Hamilton Spectator, and the 2010 bid's vice-presidents, David Adames and Roger Trull, have been monitoring developments since Hamilton lost to New Delhi, India, in the November 2003 vote.

"All the same reasons apply this time around," said Adames, director of Tourism Hamilton.

He pointed to the commitment of $500 million in provincial and federal funding for the 2010 bid and the employment and improved recreation and health facilities that would flow from hosting the Games.

"I think we have an obligation to look hard at going after the Games again, considering we have the plans and expertise from the 2010 bid," said Adames.

But he said the city has to review the bid guidelines and then meet that tight July 22 deadline to deliver a letter of intent to bid.

Meantime, McMaster University executive Trull said Mac still sees the same benefits from a Games for the school and the community.

And although Mac has forged ahead with a massive athletic expansion, the components needed for Games facilities could be added with little fuss, he added. Trull said Mac's only concern in moving forward was reform of the Games' bidding process.

The Commonwealth Games Federation was rocked by controversy after the bidding process for the 2010 Games.

India promised $100,000 US to each national association in a last-minute vote-grabber.

"We wanted to see that the bidding process was being reformed and were happy that Canada's Bruce Robertson (a CGF vice-president) has been doing that."

Trull said the only development that would derail Hamilton's interest is if South Africa decided to proceed with a 2014 bid. There would be strong sentimental appeal as Africa has never staged the Games.

South Africa is staging the 2010 soccer World Cup, which might prevent a Games bid.

So far, only Glasgow, Scotland, has declared a bid.

Thomas Jones, CEO of Commonweath Games Canada, said a Hamilton bid for the domestic stage would be most welcome.

"Hamilton did such a great job with the last bid, everything was first class."

He said no other Canadian cities have indicated interest. Halifax, which Hamilton defeated in the 2010 bid process, will likely be back and there is apparently interest in Toronto and Montreal.

Hamilton will be stronger at both the domestic and international level this time because it has played the game, has a depth of expertise and planning at hand and has a better sense of the international climate, said Pike.

"There are several developments that enhance our position. We have the athletic expansion at McMaster, a vitalized football club with an owner in Bob Young who is a good fit with his quest for a new stadium and the 2007 opening of the Royal Connaught Hotel."

In announcing the 2014 initiative, a CGC statement said it "believes that hosting the 2014 Commonwealth Games in Canada will strengthen the Canadian sport system, provide sport development opportunities for athletes, coaches and participants, and will build a lasting legacy for Canadians."

Said Commonwealth Games Federation president Michael Fennell, of Jamaica, in a statement: "Canada has a solid track record with the Commonwealth Games and a history of hosting successful international Games."

:D

If Toronto gets Expo 2014, I would like to see the Haligonians get 2014 Commonwealth Games instead of Hamilton just to spread things out in Canada. The west (Vancouver 2010), the central (TO-2014), and the east (Halifax 2014) would have all hosted something.

I was a huge supporter for Hamilton 2010.



The new 45,000 seat Commonwealth Stadium:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/Appster/Commonwealth_Stadium.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/Appster/Stadium.jpg


and another stadium at McMaster University:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/Aallen396/34.jpg

The McMaster stadium is being built as well as the Sport Complex (located at the end zone on that picture). The stadium is gonna be called Ronald V Joyce Stadium because he donated $10 million. Ron Joyce is one of the founders of Tim Hortons.

Also it's 2015 for Toronto wanting to get the Expos not 2014.

I'm not sure if they're actually seriously considering this. Just use Queens Quey for streetcars would be easier and only about 5 minutes slower

I think you're severely overestimating the capacity of the Queens Quay streetcar or dramatically underestimating draw a Toronto expo is expected to have.

See relevant portion of section 4:
http://www.toronto.ca/toronto_international/pdf/expo2015_final_report.pdf

Thanks for the hyperlink RBT. Just got some stats on expected commuter traffic. (pg 41-43 on PDF)
Peak traffic expected (per hour basis): is 100,000.
The Yonge Subway has a peak of 40,000
A Streetcar has a peak of 8,000
A bus has a peak of 3,000

Keep in mind the 100,000 represents all forms of commuting including highway (QEW), public transportation and walking/biking. So, I can see your point that a streetcar would have no ability to handle this capacity, I would still think it's unnessary to build this "underwater tube".
Why not instead build an LRT system along the QueenQuay ,and close this road to street traffic so that it can be used for buses, taxis, bikes etc only. Even ferry's can be used to transport people from the portlands to Queens Quey terminal At least with an LRT you can have multiple stops which would make it an asset to the city long after the fair is gone. However, the Water ride would be a big white elephant that would rarely be used after the Expo

Did some more scolling down (great website by the way). Page 68-70 shows mostly what I recommended, which is making use of LRT system.
Pg 78-79 shows the underwater transit proposal

You have to remeber though that the expo is all about doing carzy things that a city would not normally do. So you never know that might be kind of neat, especially if while your in the tube you can look out it and see the lake from underneath.

If the underwater link between connecting Exhibition Place to the Portlands, it would have the same effect on Toronto as the Olympic Stadium did to Montreal. And I don't mean a great feat of architecture, I mean that the city of Toronto would be in great dept and it would take decades to pay it off. It's just not worth it to build something like that. Just think, after the Expo who's really going to use that link? The Ex grounds is literally empty on regular days and the Portlands aren't even developed yet.
And we must remember that it's just the Expo, it's not quite as big as the olympics so it really doesn't make sense to do something that extreme.

Maybe some corperations could help out, make it cheaper.

Maybe some corperations could help out, make it cheaper.

Nice idea. ;)

"Hey, let's ride the Pepsi train through the Starbucks tunnel under Lake Wal-Mart to get to the Burger King Covention Centre in Exhibition Place."

No. :( Just no...

All kidding aside, what are we gonna do with a tunnel like that under neath Lake Ontario after the Expo? (If we get it) It'll cost millions to build it and millions more to maintain it each year for a tunnel from nowhere to nowhere. Although something like that fascinated me, that idea is just a dream.

A better idea would to build some kind of high-speed light-rail on Queen's Quay to replace the old streetcars. Just increase the number of cars for the Expo and that would be fine.

I'm getting too ahead of myself here, Toronto still has to win the Expo. ;)

LOL good point, i really hate starbucks. But we can dream cant we?

Calgary poised to seek major games
High-profile group driving bid for 2014 Commonwealth Games

Emma Poole
Calgary Herald; with files from The Canadian Press

Tuesday, July 12, 2005

CREDIT: Herald Archive, Associated Press
Athletes compete in the 10,000-metre final at the 2002 Commonwealth Games in Manchester, England, the last city to hold the event.

A group of high-profile corporate citizens, tourism officials and sports enthusiasts are spearheading a bid to bring the 2014 Commonwealth Games to Calgary.

"There's definitely an interest. Everyone is trying to get everything in place," said Joe Fardell, president and CEO of Tourism Calgary. "(The Commonwealth Games) would be huge. They would be just as good as the Olympics."

But first, Mayor Dave Bronconnier must convince city council to approve a letter of intent that must be delivered to Commonwealth Games Canada by July 22.

Sources said Bronconnier will take the proposal to aldermen next week.

Bronconnier said Monday that community luminaries have "expressed interest" in hosting the Games, but he stopped short of confirming the city's intent to bid.

"Calgary is interested in looking at a number of events," said Bronconnier. "We're considering a number of sporting activities."

This past spring, Tourism Calgary formed the Calgary Sports Tourism Authority in hopes of landing major athletic events over the next decade.

The 12-strong group is made of city heavyweights such as Calgary Flames president Ken King, prominent lawyer and part-owner of the Calgary Stampeders Doug Mitchell, and Calgary Olympic Development Association president John Mills.

"Their role is basically an aadvisory role. They open the doors as far as funding," said Fardell. "There's a lot of pull."

King confirmed his volunteer role with the group and said he will participate in the bidding process.

"Our committee will have a role and I'm on the committee," he said.

Commonwealth Games Canada, the Canadian franchise-holder for the Commonwealth Games, last week invited Canadian cities and municipalities to bid on the event.

"Since the board decision and announcement to pursue a Canadian bid to host the 2014 Commonwealth Games, a number of cities from across the country have expressed an interest," CEO Tom Jones said at the time.

Canada has hosted the event three times -- Vancouver in 1954, when it was called the British Empire Games, Edmonton in 1978 and Victoria in 1994.

Glasgow is the only confirmed bid for the 2014 games, but Nigeria also is expected to enter the race.

In Canada, twice-humbled Halifax has anted up once again in a preliminary bid for the Games.

A plan to submit a letter of intent on a possible bid for the Games, in partnership with the province, won unanimous approval last week. A lack of adequate facilities was cited as a major drawback by decision-makers in Halifax's previous bid.

Councillors approved a plan to foot half the $5,000 cost of preparing a letter of intent. The province has already agreed to pay the other half.

Halifax lost to Hamilton in its previous bid. Hamilton won the Canadian part of the competition, only to be defeated by New Delhi for the 2010 Games.

Halifax also lost out to Victoria in a bid for the 1994 Games.

The 2006 Commonwealth Games will be held in Melbourne, Australia.

Bringing an event of this size to Calgary would mean a huge economic windfall.

Bruce Graham, president and CEO of Calgary Economic Development, said it's about time a major sporting event came to the city.

It's been almost 20 years since Calgary hosted the 1988 Winter Olympics.

"From our standpoint, this provides exposure on a global stage," said Graham.

Graham said world-class events not only bring in tourism dollars, but also play a role in getting money to improve municipal infrastructure.

"The spinoff is huge," he said. "There's a long-term legacy . . . that is really important to us."

A decision on which Canadian city will bid for the Games will be announced in December. A final selection committee decision would come in fall 2007.

epoole@theherald.canwest.com

What can Calgary expect out of the Commonwealth Games?

Here's the legacy of the 2002 Games in Manchester, England:

- An indoor sports facility and an aquatics centre;

- Helped officials land other events, and 300,000 tourists a year spending $38 million;

- Improved transportation and new housing built for athletes;

- Provided $47 million to businesses and added 6,300 jobs.

-- The Manchester Evening News

Host Cities:

Commonwealth Games

1930 Hamilton

1934 London

1938 Sydney, Australia

1942 Cancelled, due to WWII

1946 Cancelled, due to WWII

1950 Auckland

1954 Vancouver

1958 Cardiff, Wales

1962 Perth, Australia

1966 Kingston, Jamaica

1970 Edinburgh

1974 Christchurch, New Zealand

1978 Edmonton

1982 Brisbane, Australia

1986 Edinburgh

1990 Auckland, New Zealand

1994 Victoria

1998 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

2002 Manchester, England

2006 Melbourne, Australia

2010 Delhi, India

Fact File:

During their 75-year history, the games have been known as the British Empire Games (1930-1950), the British Empire and Commonwealth Games (1954-1966), the British Commonwealth Games (1970-1978) and finally the modern Commonwealth Games starting in 1982.

Source: commonwealthgames.ca

Calgary Has Its Hat in the Ring

Calgary has won or is planning to bid on several major events in the next few years.

They include:

- Hosting the 2006 World Figure Skating Championships;

- Hosting the 2007 Alberta

Paraplegic Games;

- Bidding on the 2007 Grey Cup;

- Bidding on the 2008 Juno Awards;

- Bidding on the 2008 World Masters Games;

- Hosting the 2009 World Skills Competition; and

- Bidding on the 2010 Brier

This story features factboxes "What can Calgary expect out of the Commonwealth Games?" , "Host cities" and "Calgary has its hat in the ring".

If the underwater link between connecting Exhibition Place to the Portlands, it would have the same effect on Toronto as the Olympic Stadium did to Montreal. And I don't mean a great feat of architecture, I mean that the city of Toronto would be in great dept and it would take decades to pay it off. It's just not worth it to build something like that. Just think, after the Expo who's really going to use that link? The Ex grounds is literally empty on regular days and the Portlands aren't even developed yet.
And we must remember that it's just the Expo, it's not quite as big as the olympics so it really doesn't make sense to do something that extreme.


In an ideal world that wouldn't be the subway route they come up with first - but I think it would seriously accelerate development on the Portlands and possibly the Ex as well. I don't think it would be useless by any stretch.