Its about time I broke me duck, and started a thread.

I would say it is a skyscraper, for manchester anyway.

its small windows make it look bigger than it is, if it had balconies may it wouldnt get my approval.

I'd call it a 'tower'.

I think 'Skyscraper' is pushing it a bit.

I'd say it is a tower.

A skyscraper is generally considered to be a building over 150m.

Have you ever been to London and actually seen Tower 42 or SwissRe up close? Now they are real skyscrapers. Check this out: http://www.willfox.com/t42.html

Arndale is a big building but it doesn't exactly "soar" like a true skyscraper does.

Don't worry, you'll soon have the Beetham Tower. :)

How tall is Tower 42 in comparison to Beetham?

The Arndale is a pathetic excuse for a building why they don't knock it down is beyond me!

How tall is Tower 42 in comparison to Beetham?

http://tinypic.com/4gm4wj

I like the arndale tower it adds a bit of midrise bulk to the skyline ..it just needs recladding not demolishing and it looks good at night lit up

they are pretty damn similar in size aren't they.

Looking at Beetham (the side with the blade on) will look huge.

Didn't realise it would be as tall as Tower 42 - which looks huge even amongst the taller surroundings in London.

agree with you oscar; although i wouldnt call it a skyscraper. it is definitely high-rise though. i think it should be re-cald, like city tower is at the mo.

A skyscraper is generally considered to be a building over 150m.

Have you ever been to London and actually seen Tower 42 or SwissRe up close? Now they are real skyscrapers. Check this out: http://www.willfox.com/t42.html

Arndale is a big building but it doesn't exactly "soar" like a true skyscraper does.

Don't worry, you'll soon have the Beetham Tower. :)

I have been to NYC and seen the Empire State building and the Twin Towers....now they are REAL skyscrapers.........hehehe.

I have to say, I wouldnt say a council tower block was a skyscraper, but the Arndale is over 20 stories high .........does anyone have a good pic showing it in good light.

If it was actually possible to stand at its base (instead of in the feckin middle of a shopping mall) I think it would look alot more slender.

No I dont think it is as I said on the other thread its really only a high rise.

Can't say I'm arsed.

Highrise, skyscraper, tower. Whatever you label it it's still there, still rank, and I still love it.

I've always thought a skyscraper is over 500ft. Don't think it adds bulk to the skyline though. There's no bulk yet.

It has a dominating presence over its immediate surroundings, I like it.. at one time it would of been feasible to say it was a skyscraper to Manc.. as it was the 3rd tallest block.. now however, like its 2 senior cousins it shall be a mid-rise, as the age of true skyscrapers begins for Manc. I would still call it a tower. Besides, you keep calling it rank but it aint that bad from a distance, lol.. they're are far worse towers about.

The small windows are the reason why it looks taller than it is,I like the way it towers over exchange sq...is it due for a reclad? the mustard colour is one reason why people hate it I think ...it reminds them of the old arndale itself.....which was digusting

Although ugly, it is very successful in terms of making money. Because of that, there are no plans to reclad it.

I wouldnt say a council tower block was a skyscraper, but the Arndale is over 20 stories high ..........

18 stories of office space and 2 for the Upper and Lower mall floors respectively.

Although ugly, it is very successful in terms of making money. Because of that, there are no plans to reclad it.

Be curious to know what financial details you are basing that on Accura?

Even it is making money, doesnt exclude the possibility of it being smartened up to make even more money does it?

Well the Arndale tower is to the Arndale as the Rotunda must be to the Bullring.. and they're wanting to give that a spruce up so.... I wouldn't rule out Arndale, but its unlikely..However, it would be the only tall of Manc not to get some attention, CIS & City Tower are gettin attention.. NT and Portland recently have had work done (even if by Bruntwooders) so who knows.. Certainly would compliment the new Next if the arndale was changed.. Although I think I'd want it staying some kind of yellow colour. A lot less mustard-like and grimey, but maybe similair to the tiles they've used on the Next extension.. could look nice.

yeah a silver colour, that would look cool.

The Arndale Tower is a hideous outmoded carbuncle that REALLY SHOULD have been blown up long ago - if Brum can start dismantling its most outdated 60s towers (two of which don't even hold a candle to Arndale Tower in terms of sheer ugliness), why the hell can't Manc? At least then with all the other huge towers that will be springing up in the city in the next 5-10 years, its demise won't be such a huge loss....if at all... I SAY FLATTEN THE PUKE-COLOURED FUCKER NOW - IT'S UGLY AS SIN!!!!

http://tinypic.com/4gm4wj


Er...isn't it actually 49 storeys for Tower 42?? Since when did it lose six floors????

the Arndale is over 20 stories high .........does anyone have a good pic showing it in good light.




Er.....not really, I very much doubt it.

Even in the earliest pics I took way back in 1984, it looked crap then.

The Arndale Tower is a hideous outmoded carbuncle that REALLY SHOULD have been blown up long ago - if Brum can start dismantling its most outdated 60s towers (two of which don't even hold a candle to Arndale Tower in terms of sheer ugliness), why the hell can't Manc? At least then with all the other huge towers that will be springing up in the city in the next 5-10 years, its demise won't be such a huge loss....if at all... I SAY FLATTEN THE PUKE-COLOURED FUCKER NOW - IT'S UGLY AS SIN!!!!
Agree its bloody ugly in its present state but a reclad in limestone or granite effect cladding would be better than demolition but unlikely anytime soon ..lets just demolish the tower on manchester cathedral it looks like a small town parish church to me

^ only joking

It's an architectural abomination. No two ways about it. It simply HAS to go.

I like it, like a short fat bouncer on the door of a shitty club on the urban periphery, it looks like it can handle itself, it looks a bit tasty. When the bomb went of it sprouted arms and dusted itself off.

The worst thing the IRA did was to NOT plant the bastard bomb underneath that fat fucker's very foundations mate. Would have saved the developers a lot of trouble.

Here she is in the best light, darkness!
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/179ArndaleHouse_pic13.jpg

Sunset?
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/179ArndaleHouse_pic8.jpg

Mist?
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/179ArndaleHouse_pic7.jpg

Sunlight?
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/179ArndaleHouse_pic5.jpg

I need a life? Yes.

UG-LEEEEE!!!!! OH YEAH!!!!!

Would have killed a few people too.

Not if they were all evacuated in time, it wouldn't have.

Those roller blinds in the windows make it look worse...like some are boarded up

dunno, bits of tower bouncing all over the city centre would have been a bit nasty. It was closer than you think.

I like it, like a short fat bouncer on the door of a shitty club on the urban periphery, it looks like it can handle itself, it looks a bit tasty. When the bomb went of it sprouted arms and dusted itself off.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

In Caw's last pic, there is a guy on top of Arndale with huge arms worshipping CIS....or is it some type of aerial?!

If you walk from the bottom floor of Muji up the stairs towards the exit on Exchange Sq, the tower looks 'kin massive.
One of the very few remainders/reminders of 70's Manchester left. The fact that it is a 90m high museum piece and pretty ugly to boot serves it no favours.
Reclad it in tea leaves.

:rofl:
Have you lot been smoking dgnr8's weed tonight????

Reclad it in tea leaves :)

Man with long arms worshipping the CIS :)

I do agree with Martin mind, the fat fucker does need blowing up,,,if not paint it lilac :)

In Caw's last pic, there is a guy on top of Arndale with huge arms worshipping CIS....or is it some type of aerial?!


HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!! LMFAO!!! That is just about the funniest post I have read here by a mile!!

Fucking Genius!!! :laugh: :laugh: :rofl:

the fat fucker does need blowing up,,,if not paint it lilac :)


Better still slip a huge 300ft brown paper bag [with obligatory two circles cut out for eyes] upside down over the fucker - surely something else Manchester can proudly shout from the rooftops about - you know - the world's largest brown paper bag covering one of its buildings!!!

I will have to post up a Photoshop jobbie on this one, it's too good to let go now.....

Inspiration! Inspiration! It occurs at the strangest times!!!! :laugh:

yes please do it, and dedicate it as a big FUCK OFF to the IRA :laugh:

Or tar and feather the ugly bastard and dedicate it to Earlybird :)so he can say Manchester has the BIGGEST,FATTEST,UGLIEST, bird in the world

I can't believe that people want to knock her down. Ok, she isn't everyone's cup of tea, but Manchester has little enough office space as it is, and needs one hell of a lot more, so stop being so idealistic and boneheadedly romantic and deal with her for what she is, because she will not be going anywhere fast.

Think about it, how many 90m office towers are currently approved for construction? Last thing Manchester needs is losing that amount of space and office workers just because someone has some gripe about her asthetic appeal.

it's only a bit of fun,,we know it's never going to be demolished,,but i would definatly like to it reclad , or painted ,that colour is awful and just reminds us of the miles of piss stained tiles we used to have

Come on guys, are you drawing your pensions or what, does everything have to be dull and grey? It's luvverly, especially against a bright blue sky (thanks Caw), and it'll look even better when there's some more coloured skyscrapers soon.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/179ArndaleHouse_pic8.jpg

It's the colour of puke. And Manchester city centre streets are well known for being puke covered aren't they?

So is sandstone. You want to pull down half of Italy as well?

What a crap redundant argument that is!

Here.

Suck on this......

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/mckopper/46.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/mckopper/90.jpg

A VAST improvement, I'm sure everyone will agree.....

Will Alsop you fookin' shyster, eat your heart out!

totally right about tower 42 martin, it is indeed 49 floors including plant and lobby and so on.

What a crap redundant argument that is!

Here.

Suck on this......

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/mckopper/46.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/mckopper/90.jpg

A VAST improvement, I'm sure everyone will agree.....

Will Alsop you fookin' shyster, eat your heart out!

A 90m sandstone tower with two holes in it!

Well done! Glad you've got a life.

Gothic, on ADVFN there's a filter option to omit posts from crazies who spout nonsense. Is there one here, or any plans?

A 90m sandstone tower with two holes in it!

Well done! Glad you've got a life.

I take it you haven't then? ;)


totally right about tower 42 martin, it is indeed 49 floors including plant and lobby and so on.

Cheers for the confirmation James! :)



Gothic, on ADVFN there's a filter option to omit posts from crazies who spout nonsense. Is there one here, or any plans?

I very much doubt he will go to such extremes, besides, what are you implying? That some forumers here rid themselves of their sense of humour?
Yeah - I think that will do wonders for the spirit of this community then - make it into something just like the US forums or summat. Where you get brigged just for having a different opinion that doesn't tie with common "consensus". Yeah. Right. And I wonder which misguided soul was the NINTH person to bestow said Arndale Tower the already dubious distinction of "skyscraper"? I always believed that the minimum height of a true skyscraper started at 400 feet anyway. Anything below would just be a "tower block" really.

Looking at you paper bag rendering again, it seems that you would like Manchester to look more like an old site in Egypt. Interesting idea. ;)

hey, I tell u wot! not worth another poll though.

went for a job interview yesterday......sshhh dont tell me MD.

on the 21st floor of Portland Tower, thats quite a big bastard too. specially from the ground entrance looking up. its got a good view as well, probably the best view of manc Ive ever seen. took some pics with me phone, but they're shit quality. should have taken me birds camera with zoom lense.

just cos something a building is called a tower, doesnt mean it aint a skysraper......
eg trump tower, petronas towers.

Definition
skyscraper
noun [C]
'a very tall modern building, usually in a city'

sky-scrap-er
'n : a very tall building with many stories'

What's the name of that artist who wraps up things... Christo ?

Gothic, on ADVFN there's a filter option to omit posts from crazies who spout nonsense. Is there one here, or any plans?

When you get the urge to log on, perhaps you could adopt another remedy.
There is a new contraption from Sony which has a working title of "Rikko".
You spout some farfetched poetry into the 5mm uber-disc slot and it re plays this as chamber music up your spine.
The sensations are accordingly tremendous.
Akin to those facial massagers you get in Daily Mail techno pamphlets but with your nerves fizzing rampant like.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid165/pde1c1fc7107d7bac4d58a39a341cc2c2/f465fb58.jpg

Guess which corner?

how did ya take that pic, climb on the roof of the shopping centre.
abit too close or wait a minute............thats one of those weird 3D upsidedown repeated paintings, of a veruca foot pond.... remember them @ the swimming baths. smelly yellow water walk thru that looked like piss. and u had to pass thru it from the changing rooms to the pool.

can anyone answer this? how many tiles where used on the Arndale Centre

how did ya take that pic, climb on the roof of the shopping centre.


No I used to work in the Arndale Tower, there is an entrance to the tower from the 7th floor High Street car park. It is taken from there last summer.

One thing.

It is visible on the skyline so in my books it's a scrapper. Untill it getts eclipsed by bigger and better scrappers.

Crap opinion i know

One thing.

It is visible on the skyline so in my books it's a scrapper. Untill it getts eclipsed by bigger and better scrappers.

Crap opinion i know


It's certainly a pug-ugly bruiser all right, eh?! ;)

Is Blackpool Tower a tower or a skyscraper.

If thats a skyscraper so is my cock! :eek2:

Its a tower and a pig ugly one at that!

Thousands of little dirty yellow tiles and hundreds of boxed windows!

How anyone can even like it is beyond me!

Its crap!

my cock!

http://www.tw15t3d.co.uk/salad/images/30-storey-tower.jpg



as the audience gasped