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April 14th, 2005, 02:51 AM

The city of
Sarajevo - Сарајево
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Bosna i Hercegovina - Bosnia-Herzegovina - Босна и Херцеговина

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"And from whatever time of day and from whatever corner you set your sights on Sarajevo, you always and without specific intention think the same thing. That is a city. A city that both nears its end and is dying, yet simultaneously is being born and growing"
Ivo Andrić

Sarajka

April 14th, 2005, 02:54 AM

Some of these photos are repeated from my earlier threads (Road Trip, Summer in the City, etc...); the vast majority, however, weren't shared at full size. Now all the Sarajevo threads are consolidatad. :D

yugoboy

April 14th, 2005, 03:11 AM

:eek2: S :eek2:A :eek2: R :eek2:A :eek2: J :eek2: E :eek2: V :eek2: O

those pictures are absolutley beautifull!!!!

BosRoker

April 14th, 2005, 03:46 AM

This is a good idea... we should make this thread hold all the Sarajevo pictures we have found up to this point. But I suggest that from now on the sets of photos have themes... like specific buildings or areas of town and such.

Sarajka

April 14th, 2005, 03:50 AM

^ It's a good idea. You'll notice in these pictures - I was too lazy to sort out the scans and uploads and everything else - I have the insides of the Church and the Cathedral far from the outsides...there's no sense or reason to the order in the photos above, but that's fine. :D For now. ;) But yes, in the future lets sort it out. :) I also have to upload a modern Sarajevo section, I skipped over it fairly completely in the above post because I just wanted to get, in full size, everything I've already posted in other threads.

Football Rules

April 14th, 2005, 03:54 AM

Great job Mila
Is this watermelon with feta cheese? :lol: ..... or is it rock sugar with some kind of melon?? :)

http://indigo2.hszk.bme.hu/~andrew/web/2002-08-12_Sarajevo_(BiH)/img_5319_std.jpg

MIMICA

April 14th, 2005, 04:44 AM

Excellent photos Mila! I also agree with the comments in the thread...

Kommandant Mark

April 14th, 2005, 04:49 AM

^
I believe thats RATLUK, the so-called Turkish Delight.
And I just can't believe some people don't like the stuff...like our very own forumer, Filip:D

Mmmm...
http://www.stark.co.yu/html/img/emina_200_01.jpg

Football Rules

April 14th, 2005, 09:35 AM

In this pic you see former Albania Prime Minister Ilir Meta walking in the streets of Bosnia :)

http://www.ilirmeta.com/galeri/pics/1.jpg

falcon iv

April 14th, 2005, 12:19 PM

great photos mila!

unbun duckzilla!

lindenthaler

April 14th, 2005, 12:24 PM

Very nice collection mila, where did you found those all pics ?! :D

and

http://indigo2.hszk.bme.hu/~andrew/web/2002-08-12_Sarajevo_(BiH)/img_5319_std.jpg

:master:

wonkcerbon

April 14th, 2005, 05:08 PM

absolutly beautifull,

'anyway after watching almost all Mila's Bosnia pics imo Bosnians Mosque looks different than Mosque in Turkey,

Sarajka

April 14th, 2005, 06:23 PM

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Before (Oslobodjenje) ~ After (Avaz)

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Before (Bosmal City Center) ~ After (More Bosmal City Center)

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Unitic Towers - Momo and Uzeir!

Random shots of modern Sarajevo that I'm too lazy to sort out:
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Aprillian

April 15th, 2005, 08:33 PM

Ahhh...my beautifull city :(
Mila, where the hell did you find all those pictures? They are beautifull, just as our wonderfull city!

Cheers
- Aprillian

Kommandant Mark

April 16th, 2005, 04:18 AM

A small repayment to Mila for all her recent work...:)

Never before seen and very new pic of downtown Sarajevo @ night.

http://img175.echo.cx/img175/3576/downtownsarajevo10wr.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

MIMICA

April 16th, 2005, 06:16 AM

Nice picture KM, too bad the picture doesn't have high quality! Would have been GREAT if the camera were better. :yes:

Football Rules

April 16th, 2005, 07:01 AM

Very beautiful
This thread has the best photos from Sarajevo i have seen yet
I am immpressed more than before , Sarajevo looks really modern.
Those two towers with that clock tower were a great pic.
Very interesting to see buildings in different colors , it gives the city such charm in my opinion.

Football Rules

April 16th, 2005, 07:05 AM

Sarajka

April 16th, 2005, 07:06 AM

A small repayment to Mila for all her recent work...:)

Didn't go unnoticed. ;) Xox

yugoboy

April 16th, 2005, 04:16 PM

To Mila and Mimica:

Dont take this as critisicm because it is not but i believe that Sarajevo needs to get rid of these houses in the hill , just eliminate them and build highrises as a replacement.
Or , just make it green
These tiny houses ruin the great buildings of Sarajevo , they ruin the structure of the city
A european modern city such as sarajevo cannot have these tiny houses in the downtown area being so visible.
They belong in the outskirts of the city

http://img202.echo.cx/img202/8457/dsc0180jd.jpg

I disagree with you. In my opinion Sarajevo shouldn't build so much modern high-rises, simply because that is not Sarajevo... when a person thinks about Sarajevo they think of Bascarsija, or the miljacka, or the Olympic mountains... no one really thinks of the new bosmal buildings... I mean they are very nice but every city in Europe has high-rises...not every city has such a blend of east meets west, modern/historic.. you know what I mean? Plus I always wanted to live in a house on the hills of Sarajevo... I think that would be amazing waking up with a view like that :D ahha so don't ruin my dream! lol

Sarajka

April 16th, 2005, 04:30 PM

I agree with both of you. Homes aren't often visible from the new city areas - but that's the beauty of Sarajevo, our hills. Even in the old city, you can constantly see the homes, mosques, churches, etc...on the hillsides around you. Also - it's not as though they're shanty towns. They are normal, Bosnian-style neighborhoods:

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Boycie

April 16th, 2005, 08:12 PM

Sarajka

April 16th, 2005, 08:51 PM

^ HAJ'MO BOSNO BOSNO BOSNO, HAJ'MO HERCEGOVINO!

Sarajka

April 16th, 2005, 09:14 PM

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MIMICA

April 16th, 2005, 09:20 PM

To Mila and Mimica:

Dont take this as critisicm because it is not but i believe that Sarajevo needs to get rid of these houses in the hill , just eliminate them and build highrises as a replacement.
Or , just make it green
These tiny houses ruin the great buildings of Sarajevo , they ruin the structure of the city
A european modern city such as sarajevo cannot have these tiny houses in the downtown area being so visible.
They belong in the outskirts of the city

http://img202.echo.cx/img202/8457/dsc0180jd.jpg

You were the same person that said that Sarajevo wasn't very modern! ;) :D You need to realize, for a city of this size, Sarajevo is very modern. :yes: Those homes that you speak of on the hills, my friend...Those have been there longer than Bosnia and Herzegovina has been a country! :D

If I'm not mistaken, most of the newest projects, if not all, are located down in the actuall city part. Those homes on the hills and great beauty to the mountains, and provide excellent views for the owners.

Your wish of talking down the homes and placing highrises there, would almost be impossible, since it's very difficult to build a high structure on the steep hill. :yes:

MIMICA

April 16th, 2005, 11:51 PM

Some picture of projects that were completed by Vranica d.d. :)

http://www.vranica.com.ba/slike/013.jpg
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MIMICA

April 17th, 2005, 06:54 AM

The newest projects in Sarajevo are extremely nicely placed. Just like in this photo, you can see how nice this street is going to look when completed. :yes:

http://www.vranica.com.ba/images/V-trans.jpg

Football Rules

April 17th, 2005, 09:50 AM

My comment from the other topic was misunderstood
Sarajevo is modern , there is no question of this and it was the most modern city in the Balkans in the 80's in my opinion
The war really damaged it but the recent thread of photos that Mila opened really convinced me
I simple believe that those houses in the hills dont belong there
They might be attractive to some but let's be honest , Sarajevo is not a small town so you really cant have houses in a capital city so close to downtown

Sarajka

April 17th, 2005, 09:54 AM

Football Rules

April 17th, 2005, 09:54 AM

http://home.wanadoo.nl/wessel.breunesse/100_0091%20(Small).JPG

How beautiful and old at the same time this photo is?
It reminds you like 150 years ago in Ottoman days people wakling down these streets but in different clothes
Great photo

Football Rules

April 17th, 2005, 09:58 AM

They're not really that close, though. :) I mean, I wouldn't want to have to walk from one of those homes to the stadium. ;)

It's an illusion created by the size of the landscape around Sarajevo. If you were to lay Sarajevo flat, you would see how far apart everything really is.

Take the "L" for example, the two ends seem so close? But stretch it out: "__" - and they're far apart. ;)

I was thinking about this
I am sure that in the future those hills will look different
I am of the opinion that the hills would look splendid by being just green

Sarajka

April 17th, 2005, 10:04 AM

Well they are very green, Football. :) You can see small farms, clearings, and everything on them in the summer.

The neighborhoods are just gorgeous as well, especially when you're up in them:

http://img72.echo.cx/img72/1047/15mq.jpg

MIMICA

April 17th, 2005, 10:14 AM

MIMICA

April 17th, 2005, 10:15 AM

They're not really that close, though. :) I mean, I wouldn't want to have to walk from one of those homes to the stadium. ;)

It's an illusion created by the size of the landscape around Sarajevo. If you were to lay Sarajevo flat, you would see how far apart everything really is.

Take the "L" for example, the two ends seem so close? But stretch it out: "__" - and they're far apart. ;)

"If you were to lay Sarajevo flat, you would see how far apart everything really is." - Are you saying that Sarajevo has sprawl? That is the funniest thing I've heard all day. I'd have to say that Sarajevo is probably one of the most dense cities in Europe!

Football Rules

April 17th, 2005, 10:52 AM

Allan

April 17th, 2005, 11:50 AM

fantastic!

Draco

April 17th, 2005, 12:41 PM

These are fantastic photo's Mila!

I was wondering, do you know if there have been any Bosnians going back to live in Bosnia/Sarajevo? Those who left Bosnia after Yugoslavia fell apart?

KhApZ!

April 17th, 2005, 01:31 PM

Keep those hill homes! They just add to the charm and when someone mentions Sarajevo it is the first thing i think about haha :).

When you guys have more shiny skyscrapers it will provide a great beautiful contrast of East-West culture and it will be prime real estate :D

bziherl

April 17th, 2005, 02:45 PM

Sarajevo looks great! Couple of tall landmarks around Hotel Inn would make it absolutely perfect.

yugoboy

April 17th, 2005, 02:49 PM

:lol: :lol:
You guys crack me up
That picture you posted Mila looks exactly what i mean
The other hills should look the same
I am aware that Sarajevo has a different structure and beauty and it's precisely based on this that i give my opinion about the hills

Now , the river that runs through the city is a jewel
Imagine the green hills reflecting the river with modern highrises downtown
There is an example of just a magnificent scenery

That would be very nice, but it's not Sarajevo ;) I would never want them to build huge projects near the old town because that would ruin the whole charm, and Sarajevo without those houses on the hills... well thats not Sarajevo that I know, and people over there wouldn't want that ether :)

It's nice you like our cities so much, if you ever visit Sarajevo you will see how beautiful thouses houses are on the hills, i am shure anyone that visits Sarajevo won't even touch the new parts of town, but main be in old town, Bascarsija, and Downtown... where the real Sarajevo is :D ahha I am going too far!

BosRoker

April 17th, 2005, 06:45 PM

I was wondering, do you know if there have been any Bosnians going back to live in Bosnia/Sarajevo? Those who left Bosnia after Yugoslavia fell apart?

Yes, but less and less every year (as expected).

Sarajka

April 17th, 2005, 06:49 PM

^ There are more who will return once the economic conditions are correct. My cousin Danijela is supporting more people in her village than I could say and be believed. ;)

She can't do this with payments from a Bosnian job, she has to stay in the West. Even I have had to go to her for help once or twice. :)

BosRoker

April 17th, 2005, 08:13 PM

I think there are a lot more young people, like me, who'd return if they knew how they could fit back into bosnian life after years in the west. How could we get education, jobs.. how could we get adjusted to life there, etc.

MIMICA

April 17th, 2005, 08:23 PM

I was wondering, do you know if there have been any Bosnians going back to live in Bosnia/Sarajevo? Those who left Bosnia after Yugoslavia fell apart?

From the articles that I have read, yes. There seem to be quite a few people going back to Bosnia and Herzegovina every year, and I believe an article in the thread, "News in Bosnia and Herzegovina" has something to talk about the people comming back. You should take a look. :yes:

Some of the things, as L3D3NI put it, are the people aren't sure if they can come back into the life in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It's not really that lack of anything, it's just that some people fear they won't be accepted by jobs, since they don't speak PERFECT Bosnian, and stuff like that.

I believe there is some sort of English College in Sarajevo at the moment, or it is being built, I'm not sure, but that will certainly help convince more of the people that left to come back. :)

:cheers1:

SpotlessMind

April 17th, 2005, 08:26 PM

^^ You can do more from the outside than from the inside out.

I don't get it when people say, everyone should return. What's the point? It would just put more pressure on the economy, since there are already not enough jobs out there.

If you're gonna start a business there, okay.... that I get. You would hire people, contribute to taxes and so on. But to return there and end up jobless or even steal jobs from people who need it more, is not helping.

MIMICA

April 17th, 2005, 08:36 PM

SpotlessMind

April 17th, 2005, 08:41 PM

The unemployment rate is still very high. Prob. still above 30%...

The country just does not need even more people looking for jobs...

BosRoker

April 17th, 2005, 08:48 PM

My cousin in Sweden has it figured out. He works for some sports gambling company that works a lot over the internet.. he makes the odds or something like that. He does the bulk of his work over the computer so it allows him to spend half his year in Bosnia.

salvius

April 17th, 2005, 09:12 PM

^ yeah, I remember thinking about doing something like that, although I'd spend my 6 months in Cuba :D

MIMICA

April 17th, 2005, 09:17 PM

The unemployment rate is still very high. Prob. still above 30%...

The country just does not need even more people looking for jobs...

You are right, the unemployment rate is still very high, but from all the articles that I've read, it seems to be falling. Once the newest generations of Bosniaks start working, unlike many of their parents (:|), then the unemployment rate will fall dramatically...

L3D3NI - That cousin in Sweden must be the coolest guy ever. :yes:

Sarajka

April 17th, 2005, 09:36 PM

RE: Salvius

This isn't related to what he said, but he reminded me of something!

My cousin Danijela, last summer she came back to BiH with a group of her friends from Norway; they'd always made fun of her for coming back to BiH on all her breaks until they watched a home video we made. It wasn't even about the city at all - it just had a few scenes taken from on my balcony and that was enough. ;) They had to come.

Anyhow, at the end of their visit they all left with good memories. One of the girls hated it here because the "air was still and warm". :D But the rest liked it.

BosRoker

April 17th, 2005, 09:52 PM

Sarajka

April 17th, 2005, 09:54 PM

I don't understand what you're asking me? What areas did they see?

They saw Sarajevo, and everything between Sarajevo and Jablanica. :)

BosRoker

April 17th, 2005, 10:31 PM

I don't understand what you're asking me? What areas did they see?

They saw Sarajevo, and everything between Sarajevo and Jablanica. :)

Yeah that's what I was asking. Earlier you said something about Danijela and a village so I thought they had seen some rural area.

Sarajka

April 17th, 2005, 10:45 PM

She doesn't live there anymore, she lives in Norway. :) And, to me, Jablanica is a village. :P LOL

Indexi

April 17th, 2005, 11:13 PM

The unemployment thing sucks..:(

It's so friggin high..like 30%!:(

MIMICA

April 18th, 2005, 12:23 AM

The unemployment thing sucks..:(

It's so friggin high..like 30%!:(

There is no need to worry, once the new generation starts working, it'll drop DRAMITICALLY...

salvius

April 18th, 2005, 01:59 AM

MIMICA

April 18th, 2005, 02:53 AM

^ ??? Timure, I know you're only 14 (I think that's right), but you might actually pick up an elementary book on economics and try and see if you can grasp some of it. I don't mean this as an insult, I think a lad like yourself might actually be able to learn something from it.

I don't really understand what I said wrong? :dunno: There are more and more jobs being created, people are going to fulfill those jobs, and the unemployment rate will fall. What else is there?...

Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 03:04 AM

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salvius

April 18th, 2005, 03:15 AM

MIMICA

April 18th, 2005, 04:04 AM

^ in a nutshell, a new generation starting to work has little to do with the current unemployment rate. Foreign investments to BiH are low, and the long-term forecast isn't predicting sunshine. Domestic investment is obviously low. It has been going up, but that's because it can't get much more down. Foreign aid is spotty. As a whole, there are no jobs, and satisfactory economic conditions needed to create them won't occur for a while yet.

In fact, that's why it indeed makes no sense for everyone who left to come back. First and foremost, it makes no sense as an individual choice. It doesn't make sense for an educated person (who probably has deep loans for that education) to take a catastrophic pay cut, if they can even find a job. Secondly, they are stealing a job from someone who needs it more. That doesn't make sense. So you lose $$$, and you're making it harder for those that can't go out of BiH to get a job in BiH.

Indeed, the only time when it makes sense for people to come back (if they wish, that is), is if they were lucky enough to have accumulated a large amount of capital and are willing to spend it in BiH in some capacity. These people are rare.

Those problems that you are talking about aren't exactly only for Bosnia and Herzegovina, if you haven't realized. The surrounding area, such as Serbia and Montenegro, Macedonia, Croatia are also having the same problems when it comes to the issues that you've stated. :|

As for your information about "the future not looking any brighter", you'll probably have to look at the information on Bosnia and Herzegovina, before making your assumptions. :ohno: The economy is growing, and that means that more jobs will be made. Right? If more jobs are made, that means more people will HAVE the jobs. Right? If more people HAVE the jobs, that means that the current unemployement rate will fall. Right? :yes:

Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 04:27 AM

^ Oh it is picking up but you must remember that this would've been quite a terrible adjustment even if our separation from Yugoslavia had been peaceful.

Under communism, the Bosnian economy was artificial. Everyone worked, whether they needed to or not. There were often a dozen hands where two would suffice. This was not unique to Yugoslavia - it was the same situation in much of the USSR and elsewhere. When you switch to a free market economy, it runs on supply on demand. If it is needed, you do/make it - you have a job. If it is not needed, you don't, you find a new need to fill. Bosnia, as a country, hasn't gotten the hang of this yet.

To steal a football metaphor - you can't chase after the ball, you have to know where the ball is going to be. Economically, Bosnia is trying to copy what other states in similar situations have been doing - but we've missed those supply/demand "perfect storms" - we need to find our own.

The most important thing we can do is decentralize. Government runs on taxes, and it generates a small local economy. Spreading departments around the country would share the economy that OUR tax dollars create with everyone. I applaud King Paddy for suggesting that several departments be moved from Sarajevo to Mostar.

Secondly, we need to supply the local needs first. Each village, town, and city needs to be as self-sufficient as possible. The public must support this - buy local produce, clothing, and so on - even if it costs a little more.

We need to establish a Capital Development Fund for the diaspora. This would be a fund which the government can use to build infrastructure, whatever else - all very pinpointed and strategic. I don't know of a single Bosnian working abroad who wouldn't give *something*, no matter how small, to improve economic conditions in BiH.

Education is also very important. We need to change the university system. We cannot afford to be paying for university students to get an education and then leave. Neither can we afford to NOT offer a free education and condemn THOUSANDS, possibly hundreds of thousands in BiH to a life of ignorance. Thus we need to enact laws requiring graduates to work for 1 or two years in BiH, or to pay a certain, low percentage of their earnings elsewhere.

Those are my suggestions anyway. ;)

MIMICA

April 18th, 2005, 04:43 AM

Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 04:57 AM

yugoboy

April 18th, 2005, 05:02 AM

^ I don't want Bosnia to be important, or great. I don't if horse carts still cause traffic jams in downtown Sarajevo, or if the highways have potholes big enough to lose a city bus in. I just want to not have to worry about the future. :) I don't care if it's rich, or poor, or whatever. I just want to know that my country, for my hypothetical children and their children, will exist. That's enough for me.

I feal the exact same way! I don't want Sarajevo( and the rest of BIH), to become a big important city... I want to stay the same... and just a little better economy would help! :cheers:

MIMICA

April 18th, 2005, 05:05 AM

I feal the exact same way! I don't want Sarajevo( and the rest of BIH), to become a big important city... I want to stay the same... and just a little better economy would help! :cheers:

Mabye I put it in the wrong words. I didn't mean important as in USA, Germany, UK, etc. I just thought more important as in, other countries admirring the economy, the cities, and things like that. I don't want Sarajevo loosing it's charm, or Mostar taking it's bridge down to build something instead. I was Bosnia and Herzegovina to have a better economy, more stable government, and be appreciated by others...That will happen, and you mark my words. :)

BosRoker

April 18th, 2005, 05:21 AM

Guys could you please stop with the riddiculeously overly optimistic predictions about the economy. Salvius and Mila are pretty much correct on all counts, and it's getting about as annoying as Goran's bs in the city v. city subforum.

Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 05:38 AM

Sorry to re-post these if you've already seen them. They were the last post on a page, in the middle of a conversation, so God only know if anyone knew they were there at all. ;)

http://img134.echo.cx/img134/7130/19979773774ld.th.jpg (http://img134.echo.cx/my.php?image=19979773774ld.jpg)
A nice view of our gorgeous...commieblocks is too big a word for these buildings...how about commiecubicles?... :D

http://img134.echo.cx/img134/6929/20124027681dz.th.jpg (http://img134.echo.cx/my.php?image=20124027681dz.jpg)
Our beautifully restored National Theatre of Bosnia-Herzegovina. ;) Now the river side is nicer than the other side, which wasn't the case for a LONG time. :D

http://img134.echo.cx/img134/8294/20632914816tz.th.jpg (http://img134.echo.cx/my.php?image=20632914816tz.jpg)
Alifakovac. :)

http://img134.echo.cx/img134/2844/24654768264jm.th.jpg (http://img134.echo.cx/my.php?image=24654768264jm.jpg)
The Presidency

http://img134.echo.cx/img134/9060/24654882985wc.th.jpg (http://img134.echo.cx/my.php?image=24654882985wc.jpg)
The State Museum of BiH.

Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 05:45 AM

http://img143.echo.cx/img143/8123/10hy.th.jpg (http://img143.echo.cx/my.php?image=10hy.jpg)
Right alongside the Carsija Mosque.

http://img143.echo.cx/img143/8677/15qe.th.jpg (http://img143.echo.cx/my.php?image=15qe.jpg)
Bascarsija

http://img143.echo.cx/img143/9919/11kr.th.jpg (http://img143.echo.cx/my.php?image=11kr.jpg)
Pigeon Square

BosRoker

April 18th, 2005, 05:54 AM

Mila, could you tell me the name of that one mosque that's on Ferhadija street, infront of a cafe.. It's at the very beginning of the street near the Bascarsija but not part of it. I hope I'm not imagining things... cause I really like that mosque lol

Edit: Nevermind, I found out. It's called the Ferhadija mosque.. it's my favorite mosque in Sarajevo... can't believe I didn't take pictures of it.

Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 06:02 AM

http://img143.echo.cx/img143/8026/18yo.th.jpg (http://img143.echo.cx/my.php?image=18yo.jpg)http://img143.echo.cx/img143/1661/24ly.th.jpg (http://img143.echo.cx/my.php?image=24ly.jpg)http://img143.echo.cx/img143/5421/33tl.th.jpg (http://img143.echo.cx/my.php?image=33tl.jpg)http://img143.echo.cx/img143/2019/40we.th.jpg (http://img143.echo.cx/my.php?image=40we.jpg)

http://img143.echo.cx/img143/6061/56be.th.jpg (http://img143.echo.cx/my.php?image=56be.jpg)http://img143.echo.cx/img143/4686/68af.th.jpg (http://img143.echo.cx/my.php?image=68af.jpg)
Winter in the city...ech!

Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 06:08 AM

Here are some photographs of Ferhadija mosque for you, Ledeni:

The entrance is beautiful:
http://img143.echo.cx/img143/9477/sa332kc.th.jpg (http://img143.echo.cx/my.php?image=sa332kc.jpg)

These two are older, it's not as dingy looking now, as you can see from the first pic. ;)
http://img143.echo.cx/img143/5326/ferhaddz7fy.th.jpg (http://img143.echo.cx/my.php?image=ferhaddz7fy.jpg)http://img143.echo.cx/img143/7447/ferhaddzamija1hp.th.jpg (http://img143.echo.cx/my.php?image=ferhaddzamija1hp.jpg)

KhApZ!

April 18th, 2005, 06:25 AM

Thanks alot Mila I love seeing Sarajevo. With the economy, maybe it just needs some time and policy change.

MIMICA

April 18th, 2005, 06:28 AM

Thanks alot Mila I love seeing Sarajevo. With the economy, maybe it just needs some time and policy change.

The economy is going to be great, don't worry about it. :) I'm really glad that you like Sarajevo so much. :yes:

BosRoker

April 18th, 2005, 06:31 AM

Thanks a lot Mila :). I like how it blends right in with the Baroque part of town. If only they'd fix up that shitty building right behind it... is that Hotel Evropa?

Draco

April 18th, 2005, 06:37 AM

Sarajevo appears to be a magical city!:)

MIMICA

April 18th, 2005, 06:39 AM

Sarajevo appears to be a magical city!:)

That's because it is. :D

Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 06:46 AM

http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102503281.jpg

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Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 06:50 AM

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Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 06:52 AM

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Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 06:55 AM

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Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 06:55 AM

http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1111590994.jpg

Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 06:59 AM

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Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 07:02 AM

http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1111667378.jpg

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Višegradska Gate-Tower
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1111667793.jpg

The Gate-House in Ploča
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1111667853.jpg

Tower on Širokac
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1111667884.jpg

salvius

April 18th, 2005, 08:36 AM

Those problems that you are talking about aren't exactly only for Bosnia and Herzegovina, if you haven't realized. The surrounding area, such as Serbia and Montenegro, Macedonia, Croatia are also having the same problems when it comes to the issues that you've stated. :|

Did I say the opposite?... I am aware that the problem is not isolated to BiH. And indeed, I wouldn't encourage those from the other places you've listed to come back unless they've got $$$. Remember, in most of ex-YU, the youth in general still wants to leave. What's the point in going to 4 years of university, for example, only to end up unemployed?

As for your information about "the future not looking any brighter", you'll probably have to look at the information on Bosnia and Herzegovina, before making your assumptions. :ohno: The economy is growing, and that means that more jobs will be made.

Political instability, outdated infrastructure, relatively expensive labour costs, etc. are real problems. You are correct that the economy is growing, but if the GDP is very low to begin with (and in this case it is - what is it now, 11B?), 5% growth is hardly good news. Even this growth is questionable in the near future, as economic diversification is just not happening on a large scale. It's not all lost... but let's try to be realistic here.

Right? If more jobs are made, that means more people will HAVE the jobs. Right? If more people HAVE the jobs, that means that the current unemployement rate will fall. Right? :yes:

The unemployment rate will fall eventually. But falling from 'unacceptable' to 'still unacceptable' isn't exactly good news.

Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 07:58 PM

National Treasures of
Bosnia and Herzegovina

(Some of these things even still exist - hehehe)

http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/opsta/slike/1085476439.jpg
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Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 08:10 PM

I would like the add, of course:

The Stari Most (Old Bridge), Mostar, Bosnia-Herzegovina:
http://img46.echo.cx/img46/4771/untitled901nn.th.jpg (http://img46.echo.cx/my.php?image=untitled901nn.jpg)http://img46.echo.cx/img46/4526/untitled3909ws.th.jpg (http://img46.echo.cx/my.php?image=untitled3909ws.jpg)

LEAFS FANATIC

April 18th, 2005, 08:15 PM

The Stari Most Bridge is incredible. I always like looking at pics of it.

Great post Mila!

Sarajka

April 18th, 2005, 09:19 PM

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labi

April 18th, 2005, 11:08 PM

bosnia is so green. gentle fertile hills. no wonder you guys are so big and healthy.
even the smallest villages have flourishing houses. too bad for the war.

yugoboy

April 18th, 2005, 11:21 PM

Čekrekčijina Mosque

http://img194.echo.cx/img194/4932/17102004eba019ql.th.jpg (http://img194.echo.cx/my.php?image=17102004eba019ql.jpg)

Sarajka

April 19th, 2005, 01:01 AM

Batal's Grave:
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1110210218.jpg
Bosniaca engraving on the tomb:
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1110210686.jpg

Mosque in Gornjoj Čaršiji and sahat kula (clock tower):
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1111590722.jpg

Roman Ruins:
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1110211145.jpg

Sarajka

April 19th, 2005, 01:11 AM

The famous "Painted Mosque" of Travnik:

http://www.studenti.de/bih/slike/Elzedina20020401212317k.jpg

Sarajka

April 19th, 2005, 01:26 AM

http://www.krizevici.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/07_sf%7E1.jpg
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http://www.krizevici.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/16_sf%7E0.jpg

Sarajka

April 19th, 2005, 01:29 AM

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yugoboy

April 19th, 2005, 02:12 AM

Travnik is so beautiful Mila, do you have any (new) pictures of Novi Travnik?
IS there anything interesting in that city, I saw some pictures and it looks like mainly residential commi block area :sleepy:

salvius

April 19th, 2005, 02:26 AM

http://www.krizevici.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/12_sf%7E1.jpg

JACKPOT! Very impressed with this one.

Sarajka

April 19th, 2005, 03:03 AM

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MIMICA

April 19th, 2005, 03:14 AM

Did I say the opposite?... I am aware that the problem is not isolated to BiH. And indeed, I wouldn't encourage those from the other places you've listed to come back unless they've got $$$. Remember, in most of ex-YU, the youth in general still wants to leave. What's the point in going to 4 years of university, for example, only to end up unemployed?

Political instability, outdated infrastructure, relatively expensive labour costs, etc. are real problems. You are correct that the economy is growing, but if the GDP is very low to begin with (and in this case it is - what is it now, 11B?), 5% growth is hardly good news. Even this growth is questionable in the near future, as economic diversification is just not happening on a large scale. It's not all lost... but let's try to be realistic here.

The unemployment rate will fall eventually. But falling from 'unacceptable' to 'still unacceptable' isn't exactly good news.

I know what your talking about, but the only thing I'm basically saying is that all the countries in the region have those problems, or even more. From what Bosnia and Herzegovina has accomplished in the last decade should make everyone proud, considering that what was left after the war was either worthless and totally wardamaged, and now it's all comming back. If Bosnia and Herzegovina keeps moving at this pace, there is no doubt that it can accomplish some great things in the near future. Trust me on that one...

MIMICA

April 19th, 2005, 03:20 AM

bosnia is so green. gentle fertile hills. no wonder you guys are so big and healthy.
even the smallest villages have flourishing houses. too bad for the war.

Thank you for the compliments, but you need to realize some things. First of all, Bosnia and Herzegovina isn't a 'large' country at all, since it is only a small piece of a medium sized country. When you said, 'healthy', I assume that your speaking for the economy and government? :dunno: The government has improved greatly in the past decade, and government stability is comming along well, it's just you can't really expect a country to cool down that easily after a war, even though it was 10 years ago...The economy does have some good potential, and I do believe in about 10 years Bosnia and Herzegovina will probably be in the EU (if things run smoothly), have a stable government (including the people at peace), and if the economic progress continues, have an excellent economy.

Remember, that is only if things run smoothly like they have been in the most part lately, if something goes out of order, it'll take longer to become a wealthy, stable nation. :)

MIMICA

April 19th, 2005, 03:27 AM

When all these cities in Bosnia and Herzegovina get renovated, I'm sure that all these cities will look absolutely beatiful. Just cleaning them up, putting some fresh paint on the buildings, and it'll be AMAZING! :yes:

Sarajka

April 19th, 2005, 03:31 AM

^ When you use that nodding smiley, it always gives me goosebumps. :D

MIMICA

April 19th, 2005, 03:33 AM

^ When you use that nodding smiley, it always gives me goosebumps. :D

Finally my plan is working! ;) :D

P.S: :yes: ;)

Sarajka

April 19th, 2005, 03:37 AM

^ Creepy. :D

MIMICA

April 19th, 2005, 03:43 AM

^ Creepy. :D

^ Annoying. ;) :lol: :jk:

P.S : Ever since you've told me not to take everything so seriously, I've really gone off the deep end. :D

Kommandant Mark

April 19th, 2005, 05:46 AM

^I think when he said healthy, he meant HEALTHY...

Government and economy....kid, relax:|

labi

April 19th, 2005, 06:06 AM

yes i meant the people. they look healthy. there was no hidden message behind it.

MIMICA

April 19th, 2005, 06:59 AM

yes i meant the people. they look healthy. there was no hidden message behind it.

Sorry, I didn't really understand what you were asking. I didn't really think of "that" way was considered to be healthy, even though I've heard many people say that the government and economy are healthy.
Answering your question, the people are also doing much better considering what they had gone through. :)

MIMICA

April 19th, 2005, 07:01 AM

^I think when he said healthy, he meant HEALTHY...

Government and economy....kid, relax:|

Why don't you stop budding in? I don't go into threads that your in and start interupting the questions, unlike someone I know.

STOP BUDDING IN...kid, relax. :|

Sarajka

April 19th, 2005, 05:45 PM

BOSNIA and HERZEGOVINA

PANORAMAS:
http://www.tourism.ba/galerija/galerijau.jpg
Art Gallery of Bosnia-Herzegovina (Sarajevo) (http://www.tourism.ba/eng/PANORAMAsat.wbsp?WBF_ID=129)

http://www.tourism.ba/galerija/begovae.jpg
Courtyard of Gazi Husrev Begova Dzamija/Mosque (Sarajevo) (http://www.tourism.ba/eng/PANORAMAsat.wbsp?WBF_ID=130)

http://360.virtualnigrad.com/sarajevo/thumbs/s2.jpg
Gazi Husrev Begova Dzamija/Mosque II (Sarajevo) (http://360.virtualnigrad.com/sarajevo/virtual_2.htm)

http://360.virtualnigrad.com/sarajevo/thumbs/s3.jpg
Cathedral Square (Sarajevo) (http://360.virtualnigrad.com/sarajevo/virtual_3.htm)

http://www.tourism.ba/galerija/museumh.jpg
State Museum of Bosnia-Herzegovina (Sarajevo) (http://www.tourism.ba/eng/PANORAMAsat.wbsp?WBF_ID=131)

http://www.tourism.ba/galerija/parkat.jpg
At Mejdan Park (Sarajevo) (http://www.tourism.ba/eng/PANORAMAsat.wbsp?WBF_ID=132)

http://www.tourism.ba/galerija/universal.jpg
Gaj's Square and Multicultural Man sculpture (Sarajevo) (http://www.tourism.ba/eng/PANORAMAsat.wbsp?WBF_ID=133)

http://360.virtualnigrad.com/sarajevo/thumbs/s1.jpg
Bascarsija (Sarajevo) (http://360.virtualnigrad.com/sarajevo/virtual_1.htm)

http://360.virtualnigrad.com/sarajevo/thumbs/s4.jpg
Orthodox Church (Sarajevo) (http://360.virtualnigrad.com/sarajevo/virtual_4.htm)

Singidunum

April 19th, 2005, 05:53 PM

www.burger.si is just great. It coveres whole Slovenia to the smallest village. There are panoramas from Croatia and Hungary. Also Andorra, Austria, France, Egypt, Argentina/Brazil too.

edolen1

April 19th, 2005, 06:42 PM

^^ Guess what's in my signature.. ;)

Sarajka

April 19th, 2005, 09:33 PM

http://img244.echo.cx/img244/5579/768333large2pb.jpg

3tmk

April 19th, 2005, 10:37 PM

^:eek:
does Sarajevo has it's own thread in the RoS section?
I'm sure that pic will give it a good 8 average

MIMICA

April 20th, 2005, 04:42 AM

^:eek:
does Sarajevo has it's own thread in the RoS section?
I'm sure that pic will give it a good 8 average

Some people really hate how there are some commies in Sarajevo, but I don't mind them at all. I mean, once all of the commies get a new coat of paint on them, I so no reason no anyone not to like them.
I would never consider a commie block a skyscraper, but I do think they are pretty impressive. Keeping MANY peolpe in a tall building, which increases the cities density, if newly painted they look GREAT, and are "pretty" cheap to build. :)

Football Rules

April 20th, 2005, 04:49 AM

http://img244.echo.cx/img244/5579/768333large2pb.jpg

Wow , very beautiful shot
Come to think of it , those houses in the hill dont look that bad from this angle
The river is amazing , very beautiful how it curves like that

Sarajka

April 20th, 2005, 04:55 PM

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MIMICA

April 20th, 2005, 06:11 PM

Amazing pictures Mila! One that Parliment building gets fixed up, the city will look even better. :) I'm really happy with the progress that all these cities in Bosnia and Herzegovina have been fixed up, yet there is more work to me done. :)

Sarajka

April 20th, 2005, 07:53 PM

http://img135.echo.cx/img135/5281/dsc0173ug.jpg

http://img135.echo.cx/img135/6240/dsc0238sw.th.jpg (http://img135.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc0238sw.jpg)http://img135.echo.cx/img135/5681/dsc0225td.th.jpg (http://img135.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc0225td.jpg)http://img135.echo.cx/img135/9529/dsc0215ah.th.jpg (http://img135.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc0215ah.jpg)

http://img135.echo.cx/img135/5035/dsc0201ze.th.jpg (http://img135.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc0201ze.jpg)http://img135.echo.cx/img135/7940/dsc0199bg.th.jpg (http://img135.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc0199bg.jpg)http://img135.echo.cx/img135/5474/dsc0188xs.th.jpg (http://img135.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc0188xs.jpg)

Hepec

April 22nd, 2005, 11:04 PM

:master: :master: :master:
Milla you're the greatest!! Very rich collection of Sarajevo photos. Beautiful city.

As for you Slavius and Timur- quit you're annoying people with economic situation in BiH. That's another debate.

Milla, make it clear that this thread should be "ONLY" for photos of Sarajevo and not about how many cows and sheep we have.

Hepec

April 23rd, 2005, 12:42 AM

U R G E N T ! ! !

The Academy of Fine Arts Sarajevo- trully one of the most beautifull landmarks of Sarajevo and yet, it is still at the mercy of local polititians and mother nature. This building need immediate restoration from inside and outside. It is trully sad to see it fade away in front of our very eyes unless something is done soon.

Before
http://www.greatestcities.com/7451pic/348/CP348.jpg/akademija_zimi.jpg
http://www.ddh.nl/org/poo/lunjo/14.jpg

Today

http://www.alu.unsa.ba/ALU_fasada_modul/web/wDSC00882.jpghttp://www.alu.unsa.ba/ALU_fasada_modul/web/wDSC00881.jpg
http://www.alu.unsa.ba/ALU_fasada_modul/web/wDSC00877.jpghttp://www.alu.unsa.ba/ALU_fasada_modul/web/wDSC00880.jpg
http://www.alu.unsa.ba/ALU_fasada_modul/web/wDSC00888.jpg

I N F O R M A T I O N
ON THE DRAMATIC CONDITION OF THE BUILDING OF THE
ACADEMY OF FINE ARTS IN SARAJEVO

Immediately upon the end of the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Academy of Fine Arts in Sarajevo addressed the president of Centar Municipality of the time with the information on the necessary restoration of the building and its exterior arrangement, among other things because the Centar Municipality had allocated considerable resources to this purpose immediately before the war. At the time, the president promised to the Dean of the Academy that the earlier municipal decision would be carried out.

The Academy has thereupon addressed the University in Sarajevo, cantonal and federal ministries of education and culture, city and municipal authorities with a few requests for financial support for the building restoration and exterior arrangement around it.
The restoration is necessary in order to prevent further decay of the facility and ensure the safety of passers-by.
We point out that the facility is included in the high-ranking cultural heritage and, with its location, is one of the key symbols of the city.
The building of the Academy, at Obala Maka Dizdara 3, was erected in 1898 as an Evangelist Church, and in 1911 the wings were added, which is proven by the tablet still placed on its front.
In 1968 the building became state-owned, and in 1981 it was adapted and added upon for the needs of the Academy of Fine Arts, which it houses to this day.
During the 14th Winter Olympic Games in Sarajevo, divine services for all the Anglican Olympics participants were taking place in this building.
In 1996 the dome was rebuilt and part of the roof restored with donors’ support.
In 1999, teaching premises were added on the roof and the entire roof was restored.
Members of the Evangelist Church delegation, who visited us in 1999, were also informed on these works.
In order to speed up the process, the Academy funded the project of façade restoration with its own resources. It also has the urban approval and favourable opinion of Cantonal Institute for the Protection of Cultural, Historical, and Natural Heritage.
According to estimates by our architects who worked on postwar adaptations, the consolidation and reconstruction of the façade would cost about € 300,000.
Since the falling off of the façade parts increased last winter, the Academy allocated part of its own, generally insufficient resources for the acquisition of scaffolding that could at least partly alleviate the undesirable results of parts of the building falling on the passers-by, above all students, teachers and staff.

BosRoker

May 6th, 2005, 08:10 PM

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http://www.bosna.unas.cz/Bosna04/Vrelo_Bosne04/Vrelo_Bosne%20(13).jpg

Sarajka

May 15th, 2005, 11:56 PM

One sunny afternoon in Sarajevo with the Softic family. Visit their home in the suburbs, enjoy dinner at an outdoor cafe beside the Mijacka, visit downtown Sarajevo, visit the zoo and children's park, visit the Softic family's relatives at the cemeteries, and end it all off with a coffee overlooking the whole city...

http://www.softic.org/Sarajevo2002/images/P0001364.jpg

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thebackdoorman

May 16th, 2005, 12:59 AM

The city has a very nice feeling to it. There is a nice mixture of the old and the modern in the city, and I also like some of the destroyed buildings. They give such a nice, a honest, feeling to the place. Communist blocks next to older architecture. Green areas and cemeteries. Mountainous. People seem poor but there are also skyscrapers. Very contradictory, very nice.

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 01:04 AM

^ Sarajevo is a strange sort of poor, yes. The older people don't mind it as much. They're happy with what they have. They'll sit on their balconies with coffee and cigarettes, watch the sun go down and be amazed that someone could ever think they didn't own the world. The younger people are more...self-conscious about it. You'll notice Sarajevo compares to Latin America in that way; young people try to dress as "richly" as possible; often people will spend money on designer clothing before they'll buy groceries or anything else. You'll meet a unusually high number of people in Sarajevo who will insist you hang out downtown, who - if you drive them home - will get you to drop them at the end of their street. The youth often aren't proud of their homes, etc. But there is such - what I call a "third world" closeness in Sarajevo. Everything makes noise, everything is a little bit louder than it is everywhere else, a little bit bigger, a little bit more...rough. There is more chaos, more music in the streets, more people breaking into drunken songs on the city trams. It's all things that I've grown to love, and that I feel are worth having.

yugoboy

May 16th, 2005, 01:15 AM

Those pictures show the real city of Sarajevo, not some fake shiny new buildings, but a real place with hart, and soul.. I love Sarajevo for that, this family are they a mix, since i see they visit both Christian, and Muslim grave yards. :)

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 01:16 AM

^ Most families in Sarajevo are mixed, Yugoboy. My family is not originally from Sarajevo, my parents came here from northern Bosnia.

It is *only* families that came here very recently that aren't mixed, that I know of. All my friends that have families that have been in Sarajevo for 50, 100+ years...are all mixed. Some a little, most a GREAT deal mixed.

yugoboy

May 16th, 2005, 01:23 AM

Oh I know that Mila. Everyone Knows That Sarajevo is a Very Mixed city, but I meant is this paticular family, Softic a Mix or not? thanks.:)

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 01:33 AM

One interesting demonstration of the poverty vs heart of Sarajevo - and, for that matter, most of the Balkans:
http://www.softic.org/Sarajevo2002/images/P0001459.jpg
^ Note the cheap, wooden crosses between the giant, marble tombs.

Bosnian families of all faiths will place a wooden symbol on the grave when the family member is burried. From then on, money will be saved - sometimes it takes weeks, sometimes, sometimes years - depending on the family. Once enough money is raised, the wooden symbol of removed, and a proper tombstone is placed over the grave. It's little things like this that I truly love.

SpotlessMind

May 16th, 2005, 02:59 AM

It does strike me how the city has changed, since this is 2002...

But I agree, the soul of the city comes thru...

KOKOLOGIST

May 16th, 2005, 03:20 AM

The city has charm to it for sure....But it is sad to look at the older generations...they all seem to be worn-out by the whole think (end of WWII, the initial high hopes with communism, TiTo, reconstruction, life in a strong and prosperous country, then the slide...starting with the inflation of the 1980s...then reconstruction. It's like what they contributed in their lifetimes got discarded. The older folks seem disappointed...it's in their eyes.

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 03:22 AM

KOKOLOGIST

May 16th, 2005, 03:28 AM

^ Yes. The older people have a sense of self-blame. I've never heard anyone over 60 say: "The Croats ruined...", "The Serbs ruined...", "The Bosniaks ruined...", "The West ruined..."

But I've heard almost every old person I know say, "We ruined it, after Tito died. We let it fall apart." etc.

Exactly. Since I was born in North America, when I went to visit last summer, I really wanted to hear what the locals there (regardless of the ethnicity..) had to say. I really enjoyed talking to the older men that were still proud of Tito and his fleet and the good ole days. I had to talk to them and absorb what they had to say, realizing that sooner or later that generation will be confined to the history books. I found it sad, especially when they were bolstering about the good days...Surprinsingly, the Croatians were less eager to discuss or even give some credit to the old Yugo. I was puzzled. verybody else had something positive to say...

yugoboy

May 16th, 2005, 04:13 AM

I also Love, respect, and find Tito to be a very positive figure in the Former Yugoslavia, and to all Yugoslavs. I really see him as an example of how good things can really be, and that our future might be like it was with him. I find People in Yugoslavia, whether in Split, Banja Luka, Prishtina, Ohrid or where ever respect him for what he was, a noble, kind hearted, and all round True Yugoslav!

On the other side Former Yugoslavs in North America, resent him, view him as a bad man, a man that was against Serbs, Croats, Muslims, Realign, Democracy, and all these negative things! I really don't understand it. Perhaps it is well with The younger people especially, they want to be the BEST Serbs, BEST Croats, and BEST Muslims, they could be.. so Tito doesn't fall in to the cards.. I have heard form Canadian Serbs Tito is a liar, It was a conspiracy, his views and morals were all wrong, he was against these people ,he committed these crimes.. it is actually very hard for me, since now i usually don't talk about political things with my friends, to say even i respect Tito, but will never take off the picture i still have of him on my bedroom wall, i will always respect Josip Broz Tito!

MIMICA

May 16th, 2005, 04:39 AM

Nice pictures Mila. Am I right to say that some (most) of those pictures that have war damage are fixed? :dunno:
I honestly see great potential in restoring Sarajevo beauty. Once all of the things get fixed, I haven't the slightest doubt that it'll be better than ever. You just wait. :D

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 04:45 AM

^ Much of it is fixed yes - except the building behind Katedrala:
http://www.softic.org/Sarajevo2002/images/P0001372.jpg

And Parliament.

Majevčan

May 16th, 2005, 05:01 AM

Boycie

May 16th, 2005, 05:09 AM

Woow, come on this sounds like there hasn't been any pursuits of 'politically incorrect' Yugo inhabitants/ surpressing and distorting of WW2 history etcetcetc.

Wow, this sounds as if you've just been listening to that beautiful :| speech that Draskovic delivered today. A nice example of what social psychologists refer to as 'priming'.

:D

:cheers:

Majevčan

May 16th, 2005, 05:42 AM

^I don't like Draskovic that much so no need to listen to any of his talks......
Still, your comment doesn't contribute to anything

Majevcan

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 06:15 AM

The city of
BIHAC

http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2156.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2159.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2161.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2172.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2164.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2214.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2219.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2186.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2187.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2188.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2198.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2204.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2206.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2213.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2215.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2218.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2221.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2225.JPG
http://www.forum-bosnie.com/Bh/bDSCN2231.JPG
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1094547956.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1094548479.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1094548798.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1094549158.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1086616567.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1086264692.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1086616628.jpg

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 06:16 AM

[CENTER]The city of
BRCKO

http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%201.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2010.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2011.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2012.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2013.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2014.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2015.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2016.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2017.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2018.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2019.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%202.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2020.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2021.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2022.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2023.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2024.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2027.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2028.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2029.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%203.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2030.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2037.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2039.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%209.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%204.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2040.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%2043.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%205.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%206.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%207.jpg
http://www.rtv-brcko.com/E-Mage%20for%20Web%20Output/images/BRCKO%208.jpg
http://img48.exs.cx/img48/9022/dsc0016xp.jpg
http://www.javniregistar.com/brcko/slike/aero_047.jpg
http://www.javniregistar.com/brcko/slike/aero_010.jpg
http://www.javniregistar.com/brcko/slike/aero_013.jpg
http://www.javniregistar.com/brcko/slike/aero_048.jpg
http://www.javniregistar.com/brcko/slike/ljeto_007.jpg
http://www.javniregistar.com/brcko/slike/ljeto_036.jpg

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 06:18 AM

The village of
BREZA

http://www.breza.com/slike/images/Breza1.jpeg.jpg
http://www.breza.com/slike/images/panorama5.jpeg.jpg
http://www.breza.com/slike/images/Breza2.jpeg.jpg
http://www.breza.com/slike/images/GBreza.jpg
http://www.breza.com/slike/images/PIC00001.jpg

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 06:19 AM

[CENTER]The village of
DERVENTA

http://www.derventa.com/derventa3.jpg
http://www.derventa.com/derventa7.jpg
http://www.derventa.com/derventa11.jpg
http://www.derventa.com/derventa15.jpg
http://www.derventa.com/derventa6.jpg
http://www.derventa.com/derventa8.jpg
http://www.derventa.com/derventa16.jpg
http://www.derventa.com/derventa17.jpg

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 06:20 AM

The town of
FOJNICA

http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2004-06-28-04.jpg
http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2004-06-28-02.jpg
http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2005-02-18-00-00-05.jpg
http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2004-12-20-00-00-140.jpg
http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2005-02-07-00-00-45.jpg
http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2004-10-26-12-44-35.jpg
http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2004-06-12-06.jpg
http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2003-08-13-13-08-22.jpg
http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2003-08-13-13-10-32.jpg
http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2003-08-28-12-24-49.jpg
http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2004-08-30-13-03-25.jpg
http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2003-08-12-17-46-45.jpg
http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2003-08-12-17-43-58.jpg
http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2003-08-12-17-38-10.jpg
http://www.fojnica.ba/foto/logo.php?picturename=albums/userpics/2004-06-22-01.jpg

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 06:27 AM

The town of
GRADACAC

http://www.krizevici.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/05%7E8.jpg
http://www.krizevici.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/04%7E8.jpg
http://www.krizevici.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/03%7E8.jpg
http://www.krizevici.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/02%7E8.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102593249.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102593286.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102593371.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102593394.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102593445.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102593482.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102593532.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102593558.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102431131.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102431465.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102431506.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102431590.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102431629.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102431776.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102432123.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102432222.jpg
http://www.aneks8komisija.com.ba/html/slike/1102432261.jpg

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 06:30 AM

The town of
KLJUC

http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc2004/zanatskidzamija.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc2004/visnja.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc2004/kaficbasta.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc2004/kaficHAC.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc2004/kaficU2.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc2004/parking.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc2004/okuka.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc2004/piramida.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc2004/svatovi.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc2004/setaliste.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc2004/disco.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc/dzamija1.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc/crkvaK.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc/crkvaP.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/kljuc/salon.jpg http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/starigrad/panoramakljuc.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/starigrad/mehmedagici.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/starigrad/pogledstadion.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/regata/regatapripreme1.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/skokovi/pripreme.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/skokovi/publika.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/skokovi/skok7.jpg
http://www.kljuc.ba/galerija/teferic/stolice.jpg

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 06:31 AM

The town of
KONJIC

http://www.konjic.com/applications/album/Grad/pijaca_2004.jpg
http://www.konjic.com/applications/album/Grad/city_oldtown.jpg
http://www.konjic.com/applications/album/Grad/city_luka.jpg
http://www.konjic.com/applications/album/Priroda/IMG_1942.jpg
http://www.konjic.com/applications/album/Priroda/04.jpg
http://www.konjic.com/applications/album/Priroda/boracko_lake_1.jpg
http://www.konjic.com/applications/album/Priroda/boracko_lake_2.jpg
http://www.konjic.com/applications/album/Priroda/neretva_bridge.jpg
http://www.konjic.com/applications/album/Priroda/jablanicko_lake_4.jpg

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 06:32 AM

The town of
KOSTAJNICA

http://www.kostajnica.com/galerija/20.jpg
http://www.kostajnica.com/galerija/6.jpg
http://www.kostajnica.com/galerija/207.jpg
http://www.kostajnica.com/galerija/5.jpg
http://www.kostajnica.com/galerija/15.jpg
http://www.kostajnica.com/galerija/202.jpg
http://www.kostajnica.com/galerija/7.jpg
http://www.kostajnica.com/galerija/19.jpg
http://www.kostajnica.com/galerija/9.jpg
http://www.kostajnica.com/galerija/12.jpg
http://www.kostajnica.com/galerija/11.jpg

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 06:35 AM

The town of
LIVNO

http://www.hbzup.com/livno/slike/zrakoplovne/DCP_3096.jpg
http://www.hbzup.com/livno/slike/zrakoplovne/P3240073.jpg
http://www.hbzup.com/livno/slike/zrakoplovne/dia000320.jpg
http://www.hbzup.com/livno/slike/zrakoplovne/dia000325.jpg
http://www.hbzup.com/livno/slike/panorame/ligoricamta.jpg
http://www.hbzup.com/livno/slike/grad/grad1.jpg
http://www.hbzup.com/livno/slike/grad/lims11.jpg
http://www.hbzup.com/livno/slike/grad/grad2.jpg
http://www.hbzup.com/livno/slike/grad/grad3.jpg
http://www.hbzup.com/livno/slike/grad/grad8.jpg
http://www.hbzup.com/livno/slike/grad/lims12.jpg
http://www.hbzup.com/livno/slike/grad/lims20.jpg
http://www.hbzup.com/livno/slike/grad/grad92b.jpg

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 07:04 AM

The village of
POCITELJ

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v415/asplavsic/pocitelj1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v415/asplavsic/pocitelj16.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v415/asplavsic/pocitelj8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v415/asplavsic/pocitelj5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v415/asplavsic/pocitelj1.jpg

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 07:05 AM

The town of
PROZOR-RAMA

http://www.prozor.net/Ramsko_jezero_1.JPG
http://www.prozor.net/Ramsko_jezero_2.JPG
http://www.prozor.net/Ramsko_jezero_3.JPG
http://www.prozor.net/Ramsko_jezero_4.JPG
http://www.prozor.net/Ramsko_jezero_5.JPG
http://www.prozor.net/Ramsko_jezero_7.JPG
http://www.prozor.net/Ramsko_jezero_18.JPG
http://www.prozor.net/Ramsko_jezero_15.JPG
http://www.rama-prozor.info/images/kupanje2.jpg
http://www.prozor.net/Varvara_juni_1.JPG
http://www.prozor.net/Varvara_juni_3.JPG
http://www.prozor.net/Prozor_zimi_5.jpg
http://www.rama-prozor.info/foto_galerija/Varvara/images/P1010070.jpg
http://www.rama-prozor.info/foto_galerija/Uzdol/images/uzdol-crkva.jpg
http://www.rama-prozor.info/foto_galerija/Ustirama/images/Jezero-Ustirama.jpg
http://www.rama-prozor.info/foto_galerija/Scit/images/SCIT.jpg
http://www.rama-prozor.info/foto_galerija/Rumboci/images/P1010012.jpg
http://www.rama-prozor.info/foto_galerija/Prozor/images/prozor.jpg

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 07:09 AM

The town of
SREBRENIK

http://www.srebrenik.net/slike/grada/srebrenik295.jpg
http://www.srebrenik.net/slike/grada/srebrenik292.jpg
http://www.srebrenik.net/slike/grada/srebrenik288.jpg
http://www.srebrenik.net/slike/grada/srebrenik278.jpg
http://www.srebrenik.net/slike/grada/srebrenik275.jpg
http://www.srebrenik.net/slike/grada/srebrenik271.jpg
http://www.srebrenik.net/slike/grada/srebrenik274.jpg
http://www.srebrenik.net/slike/grada/srebrenik254.jpg
http://www.srebrenik.net/slike/grada/srebrenik252.jpg
http://www.srebrenik.net/slike/grada/srebrenik012.jpg
http://www.srebrenik.net/slike/grada/srebrenik009.jpg
http://www.srebrenik.net/slike/grada/srebrenik015.jpg
http://www.srebrenik.net/slike/grada/srebrenik034.jpg
http://www.srebrenik.net/slike/grada/srebrenik058.jpg

Sarajka

May 16th, 2005, 07:13 AM

The town of
VAKUF

http://www.tz-sredbosne.com.ba/gornjivakuf/images/G.VAKUF34.jpg
http://www.tz-sredbosne.com.ba/gornjivakuf/images/G.VAKUF39.jpg
http://www.tz-sredbosne.com.ba/gornjivakuf/images/G.VAKUF41.jpg
http://www.tz-sredbosne.com.ba/donjivakuf/images/donji%20vak.47.jpg
http://www.tz-sredbosne.com.ba/donjivakuf/images/donji%20vak.48.jpg
http://www.tz-sredbosne.com.ba/donjivakuf/images/donji%20vak.51.jpg
http://www.tz-sredbosne.com.ba/hoteli/images/motel%20saraj%20g.vakuf.jpg
http://www.tz-sredbosne.com.ba/hoteli/images/pansion%20otoka%20d.%20vakuf.jpg

Sarajka

May 21st, 2005, 01:49 AM

The city of
MOSTAR
Jewel of Bosnia and Herzegovina

I recommend listening to this song (http://no-mundo.weblog.com.pt/arquivo/blog/no-mundo.weblog.com.pt/arquivo/Mostar%20Sevdah%20Reunion%20-%20Mostarski%20Ducani-%20The%20Bazaars%20of%20Mostar_0718202552.mp3) while viewing the photos. The Mostar Sevdah Reunion singing "The Bazaars of Mostar".

http://www.24sata.info/galerija/albums/userpics/10001/mostar_20_05_2005_1.jpg

http://www.24sata.info/galerija/albums/userpics/10001/mostar_20_05_2005_2.jpg

http://www.24sata.info/galerija/albums/userpics/10001/mostar_20_05_2005_3.jpg

http://www.24sata.info/galerija/albums/userpics/10001/mostar_20_05_2005_4.jpg

http://www.24sata.info/galerija/albums/userpics/10001/mostar_20_05_2005_5.jpg

http://www.24sata.info/galerija/albums/userpics/10001/mostar_20_05_2005_6.jpg

http://www.24sata.info/galerija/albums/userpics/10001/mostar_20_05_2005_7.jpg

http://www.24sata.info/galerija/albums/userpics/10001/mostar_20_05_2005_8.jpg

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thebackdoorman

May 21st, 2005, 02:02 AM

It looks really nice, alive, sunny and there seems to be a lot of construction, yet the feweling is not lost. Nice bridge.

Sarajka

May 21st, 2005, 02:03 AM

Live Webcams from Mostar...

Click the photo to view the cam:

http://img288.echo.cx/img288/7854/dsc0253qp.jpg (http://www.starimost.telecom.ba/indexe.php?link=5)

http://img288.echo.cx/img288/7559/dsc0263ty.jpg (http://www.starimost.telecom.ba/indexe.php?link=3)

http://img288.echo.cx/img288/3003/dsc0273je.jpg (http://www.starimost.telecom.ba/indexe.php?link=2)

http://img288.echo.cx/img288/1921/dsc0289zc.jpg (http://www.starimost.telecom.ba/indexe.php?link=1)

http://img288.echo.cx/img288/6767/dsc0300sj.jpg (http://www.starimost.telecom.ba/indexe.php?link=8)

http://img288.echo.cx/img288/5071/dsc0293ec.jpg (http://www.starimost.telecom.ba/indexe.php?link=4)

http://img288.echo.cx/img288/1035/dsc0315gz.jpg (http://www.starimost.telecom.ba/indexe.php?link=6)

thebackdoorman

May 21st, 2005, 02:04 AM

I mean both the new and the old bridge.

Sarajka

May 21st, 2005, 02:10 AM

^ I'm amazing they scanned, branded, and uploaded the photos the night of the day they were taken. :) A nice treat.

Mostar is my second favorite city in Bosnia and Herzegovina. If you could combine Mostar, with Stari Grad/Centar Sarajevo...and finish it off with a little Dubrovnik on the edges...you'd have my heaven.

Indexi

May 21st, 2005, 09:31 AM

Mila, do you know if The Mostar Sevdah Reunion are a mix of bosniaks,croats and serbs? I think( not sure) I saw something about them in a documentary here..balkan music stuff ;)

Thelème

May 21st, 2005, 10:39 AM

the old bridge is, obviously, beautiful... but they ruined it with a ugly balustrade... very sad :(

Football Rules

May 21st, 2005, 11:32 AM

Mostar bazaar is very similar to the one we have in Kruja

http://www.albaniafoto.com/albums/userpics/10001/big_kruja0042.JPG

Sarajka

May 21st, 2005, 03:15 PM

^ It is similar, Football Rules.

A question now for anyone with Ottoman architecture. I always assumed the channels in the streets were for rainwater.

My husband says that - as in Paris, London, and much of the world at those times - they were used for sewage. :(

Which is true?

Sarajka

May 21st, 2005, 03:23 PM

*Crosses her fingers* Rainwater and flowers...and pretty girls in pink dresses...rainwater and flowers, rainwater and flowers...please God.:D

Football Rules

May 21st, 2005, 03:31 PM

Sarajka

May 21st, 2005, 03:33 PM

^ You lie! You have to... :D

I remember watching videos from Paris before WWII, and the people throwing buckets of sewage from their windows into the street, and thinking: My God, savages. :D

I refuse to believe it. Bosnia had indoor plumbing and functioning toilets since the beginning of time, now lets leave it. :D Hahaha

Football Rules

May 21st, 2005, 03:38 PM

They werent enviromentalists in those days:lol:

yugoboy

May 21st, 2005, 05:52 PM

Nice Pictures. :)

I am visiting Mostar next year! I can't wait!! :colgate:

Must See, In Mostar!!

http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/Travel/Mostar/tito.jpg

Indexi

May 21st, 2005, 06:25 PM

I am going to Bosnia next month and can't visit Mostar... :(

Sarajka

May 23rd, 2005, 05:10 AM

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oakland_PA

June 1st, 2005, 05:23 AM

Sarajka

June 9th, 2005, 10:16 PM

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MIMICA

June 10th, 2005, 12:06 AM

Amazing pictures Mila! I'm extremely happy that Tuzla is fixing up. Look at the commies. They are completely clean. It's amazing!!! :D
Go Tuzla!!!

Senad

June 10th, 2005, 01:38 AM

how many people live in tuzla?

yugoboy

June 10th, 2005, 02:55 AM

Very Nice Pictures! :)

Tuzla is nice, and is one of the largest in BIH. :) Population In 1991:131.618

I actually have a funny story about Tuzla, that happend a day ago! :D

Friend- hey, you know my Grandmother lived in Teslic?

Me- Really, does she still live there?

Friend- No, She went to a better place.

Me- WHERE?? Tuzla!?

:D, I had no idea his grandmother died, I Just assumed she left to a bigger Bosnian City. ;)

MIMICA

June 10th, 2005, 04:33 AM

how many people live in tuzla?

I'm thinking that the population is about 150.000 - 200.000 .:)

Yugoboy - I hope that your friend forgave you. ;) :D

yugoboy

June 10th, 2005, 04:56 AM

Sarajka

June 10th, 2005, 04:57 AM

^ I couldn't believe how small the carsija looks also. It also looks like single homes, like a little residential district...hard to believe it's the korzo and the rest of the kapija!

MIMICA

June 10th, 2005, 05:31 AM

Don't Worry Mimica, my friends are just to used to me saying something like that. :D Hahha.

-Back to the topic.

I was actually surprised to see some newer buildings there, and even though I havent been there in a while.. I can tell where everything is. Seems like the city is not as big as I thought. But still beautiful! ;)

I feel sooo ashamed for loosing the link, but there was this really cool sight with really cool projects in Tuzla, with glass offices, and new apartment buildings. Really modern stuff. So, I'm getting ready to post this information (of about 25 projects) and the computer freezes. :ohno:
I go back onto Google search, and pray to find it again. I haven't seen ANYTHING similar to it again, and I'm sad. :(

Pavle

June 10th, 2005, 12:33 PM

Pavle

June 10th, 2005, 12:34 PM

And Sarajka, excellent shots!

dejan

June 10th, 2005, 01:11 PM

Amazing photo's Sarajka of another beautfil Bosnian town!

DJ Bungi

June 11th, 2005, 10:12 AM

Nice pictures. We need some aerial pictures of Zenica.

ban Bank

June 11th, 2005, 05:08 PM

Ah, Tuzla :)

"Salt city" :D

(Mi Mađari ga zovemo "Só" /č. Šo/, znači "sol")

Pavle

June 11th, 2005, 05:27 PM

^ Mi Mađari znamo srpski :eek:

ban Bank

June 11th, 2005, 06:02 PM

^ Mi Mađari znamo srpski :eek:

Naravno. :D Srpski, hrvatski i bosanski.

Sarajka

June 12th, 2005, 03:25 AM

Sorry about the quality, I tried making them 1200x but it didn't help. Most of these are from different days!

http://img158.echo.cx/img158/1097/19ig1.th.jpg (http://img158.echo.cx/my.php?image=19ig1.jpg)

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yugoboy

June 12th, 2005, 03:52 AM

Beautiful Pictures, offcourse!;) But I think it's better if someone makes a Sarajevo Pictures Thread, instead of Constantly making threads with pictures of Sarajevo.:)

http://img158.echo.cx/img158/79/35bs.th.jpg (http://img158.echo.cx/my.php?image=35bs.jpg)

I just love this picture, because it totally proves my point. After seeing this picture, what do you think is more important for the government.:)

SpotlessMind

June 12th, 2005, 03:56 AM

Hey, weren't those buildings already fixed? What is that, Alipasino Polje?

space_invader

June 14th, 2005, 03:49 PM

man, that stripped back skyscraper is awesome looking!

Senad

June 15th, 2005, 02:14 AM

http://img158.echo.cx/img158/6712/157df.th.jpg (http://img158.echo.cx/my.php?image=157df.jpg)

LOL, A few years ago I stayed in one of these "projects" when I was visiting sarajevo when my cousin lived in them.

:eek2:

Sarajka

June 22nd, 2005, 10:14 PM

welcome to
Bosnia and Herzegovina

Herzegovina Countryside
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Arriving Mostar
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Mostar
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Bosnia Countryside
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Arriving Sarajevo
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Sarajevo
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DJ Bungi

June 23rd, 2005, 08:42 AM

Very nice. The first pictures are from Tekije in Blagaj. Blagaj, Pocitelj and Stolac are the oldest cities in Herzegovina. On top of that moutain above Tekije, there's Herceg Stjepan Castle, who ruled Herzegovina in middle ages.

Indexi

June 23rd, 2005, 11:34 AM

Fantastic pictures Mila :yes:

KhApZ!

June 23rd, 2005, 01:06 PM

Wow! They really are beautiful photos! Thanks for showing us the real BiH, everything around the major cities :)

Sarajka

June 25th, 2005, 08:03 PM

sarajevo, bosnia-herzegovina
FERHADIJA - FERHAT PASHA STREET

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Ferhat Pasha Street is where Ottoman Sarajevo ends, and Austro-Hungarian Sarajevo begins.

Saraci street, lined on both signs with Ottoman shops and boutiques, changes its name to Ferhat Pasha Street at exactly the point where Austro-Hungarian architecture begins.

It is the city's main pedestrian avenue, and - in many ways - one of the city's main avenues, period.

It is, in my opinion, the grandest example of the Austro-Hungarian plan for Bosnia-Herzegovina. The Austrians wanted to implement a European ridgidness atop the haphazard, Ottoman design of Bosnian cities. Every major settlement in Bosnia-Herzegovina was expanded, at great expense, with often elaborate Central European-style buildings and districts.

This construction was used by the Austrians to develop Central European ways and customs among Bosnians of all ethnicities, especially Croats.

Magnificent Catholic churches were constructed with the better design elements of several styles from the Balkans and Central Europe.

It truly is a rare example, in European history, of an empire offering it's lifestyle as a gift, instead of forcing it on conquered peoples.

For these reasons, Ferhat Pasha Street is an important symbol of the Ottomans who founded and developed Bosnian cities, and the Austrians who were very careful and respectful of the heritage of this place.

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Indexi

June 25th, 2005, 08:31 PM

Nice, this is a nice idea, have to add this thread to my signature :master:

Medofish

June 25th, 2005, 08:57 PM

ahhh...:)

excellent thread, it's magical how magical sarajevo is ;) i usually take this route with my friedns:

1. we take tram to skenderija
2. a walk to marshala tita, ferhadija
3. ivan goes to cathedral (even though he doesn't give a f*** about that, but to show us that he's a "real" croat)
4. we go for an ice-cream at egipat :)
5. i, marko, miloš and sanjin go to orthodox church (to show ivan we're REAL serbs :D - HE STARTED THAT! ;))
6. we go to bashcharchija to chevapi at hodzhich
7. than at markele for some things, and near (near shebilj) is tram station - ilidža - trolley - home :)

all that without ferhadija would be incomplete...--that was why i wrote this to all of you who were wondering "koji mu je kurac":D

Medofish

June 25th, 2005, 08:59 PM

sarajka, you could've add orthodox cathredral, it's also near...

yugoboy

June 30th, 2005, 01:24 AM

I didn't feal like making a new thread with just these panorama's so I will add them here. :)

http://img299.echo.cx/img299/512/173131869makadtfs3js.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img91.echo.cx/img91/5568/173130734glclhjfs1bn.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img299.echo.cx/img299/1923/173130900panpwlfs1qq.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Sarajka

July 3rd, 2005, 12:51 AM

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The city of Sarajevo came into existence on the exact place whose center is the crossroads of East and West, of Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, of Christianity and Islam, of Austrian boulevards and Ottoman shops, of modern skyscrapers and European squares...

The transition from East to West is more than a metaphor; in Sarajevo, it is reality. From the Ottoman East with it's magnificent mosques and Oriental architecture, through the Austrian Center with it's proud churches and European architecture, to the modern West with it's towering buildings and wide highways...

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