Israel vs United Arab Emirates

another poll again go and see
poll (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=3848914#post3848914)

GO ISRAEL.

!!GO ISRAEL!!

some people do vote for UAE . do they hate us or just blind ?

^^ Neither they hate Israel nor blind, they just like UAE more than Israel.

^^ Neither they hate Israel nor blind, they just like UAE more than Israel.

they think they like more the UAE (or any other Arab country).
Israel objectivly has more to offer , more "rich" in sites and landscapes and diverse country.

some people do vote for UAE . do they hate us or just blind ?

???

UAE is not Gaza.

O' G! another arab vs. jewish fight starting!!

:runaway:

Israel :)

if we once forget about the religions,....

israel for its beautiful landcape, which is something the uae can't offer
development-wise i go for dubai, also for hotels and all this

but i don't know much about israel's cities hence i can't say how they look like
no comment on this concern

if we once forget about the religions,....

israel for its beautiful landcape, which is something the uae can't offer
development-wise i go for dubai, also for hotels and all this

but i don't know much about israel's cities hence i can't say how they look like
no comment on this concern

with that logics UAE is greater than Germany
with that logics UAE is greater than Italy
with that logics UAE is greater than the UK
with that logics UAE is greater than Spain
with that logics UAE is greater than Greece
with that logics UAE is greater than Sweden
and is greater then Israel its absurd

the poll is about Israel vs UAE not Dubai vs Tel Aviv

some people do vote for UAE . do they hate us or just blind ?
But the UAE is better then Israel in some ways actully, and different ppl think differently! so WTF?

anyway these pools are stupid, in one poll u cant compare 2 nations!

With all the respect and symapthy ive got for the UAE it cannot compare with Israels technology, life style, culture and history. This isnt a city Vs City battle (which Tel Aviv would win too) but a Nation Vs Nation battle and in this battle UAE cant even come close...

with that logics UAE is greater than Germany
with that logics UAE is greater than Italy
with that logics UAE is greater than the UK
with that logics UAE is greater than Spain
with that logics UAE is greater than Greece
with that logics UAE is greater than Sweden
and is greater then Israel its absurd

the poll is about Israel vs UAE not Dubai vs Tel Aviv

This IS skyscrapercity...right?? Let us see...skycraper=building=urban development...call me crazy, but I would default to rating countries, at SKYSCRAPERCITY.COM, based on structural development before any other criteria. Unless, of course, otherwise noted. Really, there are other forums and websites for cultural/religious/political bickering. As Spock would say,"It's only logical".

With all the respect and symapthy ive got for the UAE it cannot compare with Israels technology, life style, culture and history. This isnt a city Vs City battle (which Tel Aviv would win too) but a Nation Vs Nation battle and in this battle UAE cant even come close...

fully agreed
but it will change especially in dubai in 3 years

we don't have to include emirates like umm al quwain, ras al khaimah, sharjah, fujairah and ajman, these will never be able to come close to dubai, abu dhabi and israel

dubai will get huge business parks and leisure parks all over the city
these promenades at the residential tower and villas developments will be awesome to walk.

at the moment dubai only has the old downtown deira and bur dubai. this is still the heartbeat of the city.

we should start this thread in the first quarter of 2008 again :D

This IS skyscrapercity...right?? Let us see...skycraper=building=urban development...call me crazy, but I would default to rating countries, at SKYSCRAPERCITY.COM, based on structural development before any other criteria. Unless, of course, otherwise noted. Really, there are other forums and websites for cultural/religious/political bickering. As Spock would say,"It's only logical".

no, there are threads and discussions here about history about language about religious about archeology about technology about tradition about land & geography
about art music literture about democracy even about fashion and make up etc....
acountry is all that above and more

why do you ignore that ?

in terms of skyscrapers and developments yes , UAE can compete with the USA . althogh more than 100 scrapers are planned for Tel Aviv for the next years (40 FL-102 FL).
and good architechture doesn't mean towers only.

the problem most of the forumers here are stupid ignorent teenagers (also in 20s), not professional on any field and anti Israeli what ever will be the issue.

arespectable panel of scholars will never vote for the UAE against most of other world nations . even if you built 10 000 m towers and not for the next 100 years.
history archeology climates locations & sites religious world class center, the past can never be change.

Nothing is being ignored. I understand that countries are made up of much more than buildings, lol. You started a "poll"...Israel vs UAE.

some people do vote for UAE . do they hate us or just blind ?

Some? More like the majority.... *ouch*

Anyway, I would go with Israel...

Shalom!
This is my first message on the forum and my opinion is that those who vote for the UAE do it mostly for two reasons... one is just politics, and the other one is their confussion between architecture and what a nation is.
I know it's difficult and tricky (if not impossible) to compare two countries in this brief way... but those who seem to be blinded by the shine of the UAE skyscrapers should stop to see what happens below the high-rises, because THAT is the country. What about democracy? What about freedom? I will never agree with a country that is ruled based on religious rules... And they can build as many high rises as they want, but if they don't understand a country is made from much more than big urban developments, they will never become a great country.
Israel is great in my opinion, not just for its economy, but for its diverse and complex society, for its cultural richness, for its ideological and cultural diversity...

I also must say I prefer a country where both liberal and conservative lifestyles are accepted, I prefer a country that is free for my lifestyle and for the rest too, and not a country like the UAE who imposes their religion and way of thinking to the others... freedom is not imposition, freedom is tolerance to the difference, and all the oil of the world won't teach you that, that's something just culture gives.

If you want to judge the skyscrapers, yeah UAE is certainly astonishing, but if we're talking about nations, there're many more issues to take into account...

What the hell are you talking about? israel stole my country, killed my people (still are), and they are building an apartheid wall!! what FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY are you talking about? So you agree with a country that kills innocent people? You should also get your facts straight about the UAE! It's sure beats the hell out of this hell hole the zionists created

No body stole nothing. learn some history, its a long story that the basic of it is that the British ppl gave the two nations parts of the state, but the palatiniens as usuall wasnt satisfied with the situation, so they called Israel for a war, we occupied it all and that's it! we didnt even start this conflicts!
We kill terrorists, not every women and men that walk in the street like Yasser Arrafat liked doing!
and i support building an apartheid wall bcoz i dont want any connection with ppl like ur nation that dont know anything about colture and how to make a country look like a real country, all u know to do is to destroy and how to make the next war! i have never heard a Arab Peace song, israel have maybe 100 songs that talk about peace!! thats just one example of how u ppl see things! u just want jews all over the world to be gone, well sorry but AINT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the hell are you talking about? israel stole my country, killed my people (still are), and they are building an apartheid wall!! what FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY are you talking about? So you agree with a country that kills innocent people? You should also get your facts straight about the UAE! It's sure beats the hell out of this hell hole the zionists created
You are just another misguided person spewing nonsense and fiction. Yea, I suppose Israel started the war 1948. I suppose Israel started the war in 1956. I suppose Israel started the war in 1967. I suppose Israel started the war in 1973. I suppose Israel sent the murdering PLO into Israel from Lebanon to intentionally slaughter kindergardners in their school yard. I suppose it was Israel that started the first Intifada that unleashed murdering terrorists that intentionaly targeted innocent people to slaughter. I suppose it was Israel that started the second Intifada that unleashed murdering terrorists that intentionally targeted innocent people to slaughter. You should get your facts straight.

You Israeli have an interesting logic. Who said that England own the land to divide it into two DUH. Can I know who gave England the permission to use the land? Dont tell me the UN because England used to be the UN at that time.

You always refer to history but I really dont see anything that makes me convinced about the sitiation. I would accept ur logic if u said that u had a war and won it. Because u did. And thats why u still have it with u. And that is how palestanians will get it back by WAR. But not give me some historical crap and let me accept it.

Israeli try to convince the whole world that they are right. They even believed in their lies that they think its true.

You Israeli have an interesting logic. Who said that England own the land to divide it into two DUH. Can I know who gave England the permission to use the land? Dont tell me the UN because England used to be the UN at that time.

You always refer to history but I really dont see anything that makes me convinced about the sitiation. I would accept ur logic if u said that u had a war and won it. Because u did. And thats why u still have it with u. And that is how palestanians will get it back by WAR. But not give me some historical crap and let me accept it.

Israeli try to convince the whole world that they are right. They even believed in their lies that they think its true.
British ppl are the bad guys too yea... Arabs are angels :crush:

What the hell are you talking about? israel stole my country, killed my people (still are), and they are building an apartheid wall!! what FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY are you talking about? So you agree with a country that kills innocent people? You should also get your facts straight about the UAE! It's sure beats the hell out of this hell hole the zionists created


Well, I certainly do not agree with everything the Israeli government does, and I especially don't agree with the killing of innocents, but I don't understand how everybody sees the Palestinian victims but then they seem to forget about the Israeli victims.. or don't those count? or weren't those human beings?

About the wall... I can't say it's a friendly solution, but can anybody suggest something better? Will the Arab countries make the terrorists stop killing people? Cos I guarantee you once the Israelis are not attacked, they won't strike back, because they have a great country and they have better things to do than attacking some assholes.

And I understand the Israelis must do something to stop the flood of terrorists that try to kill them.. I live in peace here in Europe, and building a wall may seem very crazy to me and my people, but if I were surrounded by enemy countries, if they had attacked me altogether when my country was founded, if terrorists came daily to my country to kill my people and I felt scared of doing even something as simple as catching a bus... I can't say I wouldn't build a wall and more.

I don't believe Israel does everything right, but I also don't believe the Palestinians are saints, and I'm tired of people talking about Israels as if they were the most mean people on Earth and the Palestinians as angels.

About the UAE... well, I'll just mention something I read not too long ago, something that may seem small but it may give an idea of how freedom is restricted in the UAE... I remember there was a police raid in a Dubai club because they were having a gay party... just ridiculous! And how about women rights? Is there any female member of the parliament? Ah! forgot there's not even a real democratic parliament... not to mention the treat close to slavery that Asians get so often in the UAE

The problem at least here in the West is that people tend to forget Palestinian victims in favor of Israelis (and media has to blame for it largely!!).

Anway, Internet and other modes of interactive communications are hopefully changing the scenario gradually..

The problem at least here in the West is that people tend to forget Palestinian victims in favor of Israelis (and media has to blame for it largely!!).

Anway, Internet and other modes of interactive communications are hopefully changing the scenario gradually..
No they don't. Rational people recognize that Israel is the target, and has been the target since 1948, of unending attacks by its neighbors. People in the west have a sense of history and are not fooled. The plight of the Palestinians is not the result of Israel's actions. It is a cummulative condition that started with other Arab's lack of concern for them and continues as a result of the Arab world abandoning their brethren and the absence of collective acceptance of Israel's existence. Arafat lead his people to Arafat's personal waste land where intifada is better than self determination and statehood.

Tell me one thing: WHAT ARE YOU???????

You seem so brainwashed that you don't find any fault of Israel in dealing with Palestinians.. Before 67, I can agree, but after that ISRAEL IS LARGELY TO BLAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But what can one say when the european /american society itself is based on killing and pillaging natives and their lands completely!!

Tell me one thing: WHAT ARE YOU???????

You seem so brainwashed that you don't find any fault of Israel in dealing with Palestinians.. Before 67, I can agree, but after that ISRAEL IS LARGELY TO BLAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But what can one say when the european /american society itself is based on killing and pillaging natives and their lands completely!!
Yeh right. If the Arabs were the aggressor before 67, then nothing has changed. However, you have the uncanny ability to be ignorant of logical conclusions. What changed? The Arabs attacked in 67, they attacked again in 73 and from Lebanon and from Iraq and the first intafada and from Syrian/Iranian backed Hezbollah and the second intifada.

Don't tell me the Arab world was to blame until 67, then they went through a change of heart where they suddenly loved Israel and only wanted peace and prosperity for their new neighbors. Only, Israel would not let them express their new found love for Israel. And all the Arab aggression towards Israel since 1967 is only a direct result of Israel's unwillingness to let the Arab nations embrace their Jewish friends. But this is exactly what you are saying!

The Arab world has not changed with regards to Israel. The threat has not decreased. What world do you live in? Israel has developed ties and halted aggression with Egypt and Jordan because they were able to come to the table to end hostilities. Where are the Syrians? Where are the Saudis? Where are the Iranians? Where are the Iraqis? Where are the Lebanese? Where are the Palestinians? They explicitly chose war and murder! Israel is not the aggressor. Israel has always waited for its neighbors to be willing to halt their aggression. Everytime they did, Israel has reconciled with them. Until others do, they are still the same threat they always were. What has changed?

Come back when you have developed the mental capacities to discuss things rationally. Good luck.

ISRAEL