Suprises from County estimates released today

[denvernative1982]

-Louisville, Kentucky is officially up to 700,000 people
-Cuyahoga County, Ohio which includes Cleveland lost 10,000 people
-Franklin County, Ohio (Columbus) had a weak showing only gaining 2,000 people
-San Francisco County lost another 7,000 people, dropping to 744,000 people
-Hamilton County, Ohio lost 8,000 and is down to 814,000 people
-Allegheny County, PA (Pittsburgh) lost 9,000 people, which means the population loss is intensifying,
-Los Angeles might be to 10 million people this time next year.

-Maricopa County, Arizona gained 113,000 people last year, and has surpassed three and a half million

-Clark County, Arizona gained about 75,000 people, the county population alone is the about the same population as Indianapolis and Columbus metro area

-New Orleans continued its 5,000 person annual loss

-Ramsey County, Minnesota lost around 5,000 people going under 500,000 people and Hennepin County is about the same as 2003. I think thats ridiculous Hennepin and Ramsey counties are building so fast they cant keep up.

-St. Louis, Missouri lost 5,000 people, last year slidding to 343,000 people (estimate)

[Azn_chi_boi]

how about a link?

[marathon]

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/population/004654.html

Kendall County, IL is #2 in growth. No "suprise" there...

[Azn_chi_boi]

Thank You ^

Wow Kendall County and Will county(both in the chicago metro)!!!!!

Kendall wasnt suprising as Chicago is sprawling west and Kendall county is close to Aurora, Naperville, Joliet, which are #2,4,5 respectively in Illinois largest city.

Wow Souix Falls, SD is growing!!
No surprise at Maricopa county, AZ. As like 10 of my family members just move there last summer.

Cook county is losing population(some of my family members is too blame, as they move to the suburb of willowbrook in Dupage County).

off topic: (IS DC a city and a county, as well as an area for the captial given up land from Maryland)IS Washington DC STILL losing population? If it is still losing population, only the goveremnt officals are left living in the city,

[nostyle]

Union County, southeast of Charlotte. Hurray sprawl!

[Furiine]

There's nothing wrong with healthy growth, but I don't think it's really something to be proud of if you have tens/hundreds of thousands of people moving in in just one year. That's ridiculous. Ironically, that should be a cause for alarm, especially with gas prices as high as they are.

[HoustonTexas]

just looking at everything, its weird how we've come since 1990

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

i believe i heard recently that LA has now passed the 10 million mark!

[NovaWolverine]

"off topic: (IS DC a city and a county, as well as an area for the captial given up land from Maryland)IS Washington DC STILL losing population? If it is still losing population, only the goveremnt officals are left living in the city"

Yeah, it is still losing population which is surprising to many, in 5 yrs, I think it will have stopped shrinking. No, DC is not just government officials. Most gov't officials live outside of DC, it's not as bad as you think.

It's not really a surprise, but Loudoun County, VA has been the fastest growing of
all counties in the nation over the past 4 yrs with a 41 percent growth rate. And it's the biggest of all the those in the top 10 which is pretty impressive.

I don't know whether to be happy or not, I sure as hell don't like this outer ring sprawl, but it's good for the state that it has 10 in the top 100.

[wheelingman]

It sucks that Allegheny County, PA has lost so many people.

[unusualfire]

-Clark County, Arizona gained about 75,000 people, the county population alone is the about the same population as Indianapolis and Columbus metro area

Did you mean Nevada? and also the county alone is larger in square miles(7,910) than the metro's of Indy(6009) and Columbus(6020).

[wheelingman]

I hope Columbus's growth is not slowing down but it doesn't look too good.

[JTS LOU]

Wow.. its about time Louisville hits more than 700,000... Go Louisville and Continue to speed growth to a healthy rate.

[denvernative1982]

Yeah, This is Franklin County,Ohio gained only gained 2,000 people, The city of Columbus might have lost a few people when the figures for 2004 come out. Columbus has unemployment well above 6% now, this is about triple the unemployment rate of a few years ago. I really think Columbus is losing alot of steam in the city proper, the crime rate is way up and the economy isnt growing.

[sleepy]

off topic: (IS DC a city and a county, as well as an area for the captial given up land from Maryland)IS Washington DC STILL losing population? If it is still losing population, only the goveremnt officals are left living in the city,

Washington is the city. DC is not a county, but the name of the federal district where Washington is located.

[marathon]

Washington and/or the District of Columbia is a state-equivalent, a county-equivalent, and a city-equivalent.

Mexico City, Brasilia, and Canberra are similar examples

[NovaWolverine]

i don't know about a state equivalent

[Azn_chi_boi]

Thank you all your response to my question. I get what DC is now.

[Lmichigan]

Actually, it's not quite a state equivalent because it gets NO representation in American Congress (which really sucks, IMO). It is a county/city equivalent, though. It is very much like Puerto Rico or any other American territory.

[Azn_chi_boi]

but it did get 3 electoral collge

[Darrell]

Washington and/or the District of Columbia is a state-equivalent, a county-equivalent, and a city-equivalent.

Mexico City, Brasilia, and Canberra are similar examples


I agree with this. DC is a state equivilent by default as it does not belong to any state.

Look at the World Almanac, for example. DC is ranked among cities, counties, and states in many categories.

[marathon]

Actually, it's not quite a state equivalent because it gets NO representation in American Congress (which really sucks, IMO). It is a county/city equivalent, though. It is very much like Puerto Rico or any other American territory.

That's why it's a state equivalent. If it had congressmen (and senators) it would be a state..

[sleepy]

I agree with this. DC is a state equivilent by default as it does not belong to any state.

Look at the World Almanac, for example. DC is ranked among cities, counties, and states in many categories.

Again, it's not a state, it's not a political subdivision of a state (which would be a county or an admin. subdivision such as in Hawaii or Alaska). It's not a US commonwealth or territory like Puerto Rico or Guam. It's a federal district, period, the only one in the US. Washington is the city located in that federal district. Georgetown used to be another city located in the federal district until it was annexed by Washington.

Not to belabor the issue, but politically the distinctions are important. Saying DC is a state by default is like saying Ohio is a federal district by default. Each has its own status.

[Azn_chi_boi]

why does DC have electoral votes?

[marathon]

why does DC have electoral votes?

Probably because it has citizens...

[marathon]

Again, it's not a state, it's not a political subdivision of a state (which would be a county or an admin. subdivision such as in Hawaii or Alaska). It's not a US commonwealth or territory like Puerto Rico or Guam. It's a federal district, period, the only one in the US. Washington is the city located in that federal district. Georgetown used to be another city located in the federal district until it was annexed by Washington.

Not to belabor the issue, but politically the distinctions are important. Saying DC is a state by default is like saying Ohio is a federal district by default. Each has its own status.

Hence the "equivalent" qualifier. It allows for comparisons to be made, mostly statistical in nature.

It's part of the logic behind the European Union's NUTS classifications...creating arbitrary geographies to allow for cross-comparisons to be made...

[Lmichigan]

DC is not a state equivalent. It is not equal to a state in standing, plain and simple. If it was, once again, it would have representation in Congress. I was wrong in comparing it to Puerto Rico, but it is in that it doesn't get representation.

[marathon]

The District of Columbia is a state equivalent, because it isn't subjugate to any state. The US consists of 50 states, 1 federal district (not a part of any state), and various territories and dependencies. The District of Columbia is reported independently on matters of the state level.

The District of Columbia is a county equivalent, because it isn't subjugate to any county. The entirity of the United States is divided into counties or county equivalents (parishes [LA], independent cities [various, but mostly VA], and census divisions [AK]. The District of Columbia is reported independently on matters of the county level.

The District of Columbia is a city equivalent (actually a city in all respects) for obvious reasons.

[Lmichigan]

It may be similar to a state, but it is not equivalent for the simple fact that it's residents have no representation in national government, and a state does. If only for that reason it is not equivalent to a state. It's really a game of semantics, but it does matter when describing it. If anything, it's closer to a territory in style than a state.

[NovaWolverine]

It has a delegate in the house, and a vote in committees, but nothing in the senate. I personally don't care whether or not DC has representation b/c the city was better off when the city was maintained by the federal gov't. I personally think that if DC doesn't have representation it should be tax exempt. But yeah, it's getting shafted nonetheless.

It's a city, it's a federal district, not a state, but is similar in ways, but it's not a state. It's a federal district, and a city equivalent, that's it. It has it's own distinct designation, the reason people think it has to have a vote in congress, not only b/c it has people, but b/c people want to see it like a state when it's not and wasn't meant to be.

[marathon]

It may be similar to a state, but it is not equivalent for the simple fact that it's residents have no representation in national government, and a state does. If only for that reason it is not equivalent to a state. It's really a game of semantics, but it does matter when describing it. If anything, it's closer to a territory in style than a state.

Yes, all the reasons you're giving are why it isn't a state, not why it isn't a state equivalent. It is equivalent to a state in tier, but not in function...