Post photos of train stations. [Archive]

Aussie Bhoy

January 6th, 2008, 05:31 AM

Nice thread to resurrect

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invincible

January 6th, 2008, 07:22 AM

lawson18

January 6th, 2008, 07:31 AM

parliament station Melbourne from wiki

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Svartmetall

January 6th, 2008, 08:03 AM

Sydney seems to have a lot of good suburban stations. Hurstville seriously needs a makeover though - does anyone know about the timeline of the upgrade?

gappa

January 6th, 2008, 08:51 AM

Can somebody please post some pictures of parliment?
I never get over there but its by far one of the coolest stations in melbourne!

Photography is banned at Flagstaff, Melbourne Central and Parliament stations.

No one's stopped me!

Parliament:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/2074319353_886d48c0c9.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2149/2074325663_e426ca0322.jpg?v=0

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Flagstaff:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1002/1467149963_fe345df2f7.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1150/1467163205_66bd284321.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1225/1043880439_951427acf5.jpg?v=0

Southern Cross:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1320/680232588_620a1dc3f9.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1271/710803073_3f32066d61_b.jpg

East Camberwell:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/240/551198618_61e31fcfea.jpg?v=0

Flinders St:

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More to come, will edit.

MPJK

January 6th, 2008, 08:56 AM

Photography is banned at Flagstaff, Melbourne Central and Parliament stations.

Why is that? That's one of the stupidest rules I've ever heard. I'm really sick of photography-fascists. Can we please throw them out to sea?

MPJK

January 6th, 2008, 09:07 AM

The mother of all stations in Australia!

Sydney Central Station! (27 platforms, 25 in use)

FlickR: italiangerry
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FlickR: hiromori
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FlickR: Damian Nicholas
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:banana:

eastadl

January 6th, 2008, 10:11 AM

Sydney Central is a fantastic station.
But wait, just look a this masterpiece we have in inner suburban Adelaide. This is Keswick. There is no wheelchair access, no signs, no info, no ticket machine, no people, yet there are quite a few office buildings around this station. Also there is no direct connection to the Keswick interstate terminal

Disgraceful, and embarrasing Keswick, by annabel43 on flickr
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MPJK

January 6th, 2008, 10:31 AM

No ticket machines? Really? If you're ever caught by a train guard without a ticket, I guess you could use the excuse: "Oh, but I got on from Keswick!". :D

Cruise

January 6th, 2008, 10:35 AM

No ticket machines? Really? If you're ever caught by a train guard without a ticket, I guess you could use the excuse: "Oh, but I got on from Keswick!". :D

Very few of Adelaide train stations have ticket machines

eastadl

January 6th, 2008, 10:36 AM

the ticket machines are inside the trains

MPJK

January 6th, 2008, 10:38 AM

It's a shame that some parts of Adelaide's train network is treated like that. The infrastructure is basically there, it just needs to be upgraded a lot! Hopefully that will happen eventually!

eastadl

January 6th, 2008, 10:46 AM

Sunbus610

January 6th, 2008, 11:08 AM

^^What a shame to see what looks like a fairly major station (having 5 platforms) around Adelaide like Keswick in such despair.

Get your finger out SA government and start spending some money on improving things there:poke:. Take a look at Perth for example, also Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne's rail networks.

Pehaps electrification of Adelaide's metropolitan rail network ***ONE DAY*** might get things going.

AtD

January 6th, 2008, 11:31 AM

There's no point having a ticket machine in the Adelaide suburban stations because they're on every car of every train. Everywhere else you need to speak to a human. It'd be good if they put them on the bus interchanges and in the Adelaide concourse, however.

Sunbus610, while Keswick does have five platforms, only four are used. The fifth is a standard gauge track, where as the suburban trains are broad gauge.

AtD

January 6th, 2008, 11:36 AM

Adelaide's newest station, Mawson Lakes Interchange. It's only one of a handful of stations with any decent facilities. And it's fantastic proof of the potential inherit in the network, because even though it's only been open for just over a year, it's one of the busiest stations on the Gawler Line. If more stations were like this, people would use the trains more, IMO.

From when it had just opened:
http://photoadelaide.com/gal/2006/05/17/1_std.jpg

http://photoadelaide.com/gal/2006/03/05/1_std.jpg

Bullswool

January 6th, 2008, 01:37 PM

Perth Underground
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Fabian

January 6th, 2008, 08:29 PM

Photography is banned at Flagstaff, Melbourne Central and Parliament stations.

Ban? What ban?

Entrance to Melbourne Central. I noticed that there was a McDonalds inside the barriers, which I thought was unusual.

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The Olderfleet

January 6th, 2008, 09:19 PM

Here are some of my station pics from the past 2 years...

Yarraville Station, Melbourne

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/adonline/YarravilleStn.jpg

Southern Cross (Spencer Street) Station, Melbourne

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/adonline/SouthernCross.jpg

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Flinders Street Station, Melbourne

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/adonline/FlindersStreet01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/adonline/Night13.jpg

Camberwell Station, Melbourne

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/adonline/Camberwell_03.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/adonline/Camberwell_01.jpg

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Williamstown Station, Melbourne

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/adonline/Williamstown01.jpg

And finally one of Melbourne Central:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/404874772_e20a2d872f.jpg

Edward

January 7th, 2008, 01:12 AM

No one's stopped me!

TERRORIST! lol, im the same! me and my friends are always taking pictures inside the loop! Even at Melbourne Central in Rush hour! They probably haven't stopped us because our poses are so raunchy! :D

OMG OLDERFLEET! - SOOO HOT!

Shumway

January 7th, 2008, 02:35 AM

I love the 60's design of the underground stations in Melbourne, the rounded edges everywhere of the monitors and walls. They are real design time capsules, and a lot of effort went into them when being designed. It's funny that the style of those stations which have spent the last few decades looking dated is used again extensively in Southern Cross' reconstruction 50 years later.

EDIT! Oops scratch that. My statement of reconstruction was way off. I always just assumed it was the 60's :bash:

invincible

January 7th, 2008, 02:50 AM

Hey, the stations aren't that old! Flagstaff wasn't completed until 1985.

Ban? What ban?

Amateur photography permit conditions (page 2, see #20) - http://www.connexmelbourne.com.au/media/docs/amateur_permit.pdf

The photography permit is quite easy to get (gets emailed for you to print off in a day), although the photographer's permit only lasts a month unlike the one for gunzels which goes for the year.

That said, you can get away with most things since there aren't many staff watching you, although I have seen waiting passengers at Flagstaff get told off over the PA for smoking. Within reason it's not too bad really, just stay out of the way and you'll be fine. It's different at Southern Cross though, since the security guards tell you to check in with station management before doing anything.

Planks & Sticks

January 7th, 2008, 03:19 AM

Flinders Street Station, I wonder where...? hrmm?
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One of the cast iron columns found in the station.
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Roadwork, where? hrm?
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w81/tcbsnowman/Photos/IMGP5205_2_s.jpg

No wonder why Flinders Street station is really popular with emos, it is because it is a dead end!
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w81/tcbsnowman/Photos/IMGP5216_2_s.jpg

MPJK

January 7th, 2008, 03:30 AM

What's the logic behind banning photography at those stations? "Oh no, they will press the flash button, and then the camera will explode and we'll all be incinerated!111".

Macca-GC

January 7th, 2008, 04:02 AM

Martin Place reminds me a lot of Brisbane Central. Particularly with the tiling. Both need makeovers IMHO.

Cruise

January 7th, 2008, 05:16 AM

What's the logic behind banning photography at those stations? "Oh no, they will press the flash button, and then the camera will explode and we'll all be incinerated!111".

Maybe you could be taking photos to gather information to plan a terrorist attack?
I don't know, just an idea i had

cammo2004

January 7th, 2008, 05:17 AM

Martin Place reminds me a lot of Brisbane Central. Particularly with the tiling. Both need makeovers IMHO.

Martin Place honestly isn't that bad. It's well maintained, and actually fairly spacious.

Having said that, I'm amazed they haven't thought of "corporatising" Martin Place, it'd actually look astounding in the current CityRail colours.

All of the ESR stations are similar in design (though they differ in colour).

As for why the ban might be in place in Melbourne, I'd say it has a lot to do with flash photography. Since most people are rather lazy and tend not to bother turning off the flash, they just went with a blanket ban.

As it is, I turn the flash OFF when photographing underground stations. Particularly when the focus is the trains - it'd not be a good idea to get a driver in the eyes with the flash!

LanceDriver

January 7th, 2008, 05:33 AM

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hornetfig

January 7th, 2008, 07:15 AM

Martin Place honestly isn't that bad. It's well maintained, and actually fairly spacious.

Having said that, I'm amazed they haven't thought of "corporatising" Martin Place, it'd actually look astounding in the current CityRail colours.

Martin Place interior is the second most historically important station on the network after Museum. It will be heritage listed before it ever gets overhauled.

It was the only ESR station to largely escape the cost cutting on the line and it is the only major station to not be half-heartedly renovated in the past.

All of the ESR stations are similar in design (though they differ in colour).

Colour differences are gone. Bondi Junction and Kings Cross are ochre and blue, Edgecliff is pretty much original (blue), Central underground has various shades of blue and green depending on when each coat of paint was applied. Town Hall was never coloured. Redfern is plainly delapidated, but was done even cheaper (being an add-on to the project designed from 1976 and opened late in 1981).

The Olderfleet

January 7th, 2008, 07:43 AM

Amateur photography permit conditions (page 2, see #20) - http://www.connexmelbourne.com.au/media/docs/amateur_permit.pdf

Legally, there is no basis for this. Railway stations in Victoria are Crown land. That means legally, you can photograph them as you wish because there's no law to prohibit such action. The law in relation to photography depends on the tenure of land. If you're on private land, the landowner can prevent you taking photos on his land (but not of his land from Crown land or adjoining private land where you have permission). But Crown land is a free-for-all photo-wise*.

The Transport Act 1983 makes no mention about prohibitions on personal photography. You cannot be prosecuted for taking a photograph of a railway station. Southern Cross may be different as it is a PPP and therefore this may no longer constitute Crown land. I am unsure about that.

Even if Southern Cross is not Crown land, you can photograph until you're told to stop. Then legally you must stop and leave if asked or reasonable force can be used to remove you (lest you commit trespass). No-one can make you delete photos you've taken, not even the Police under any circumstances.

Which is why I just go and take photos until I'm told to stop in these places (or how else do you think I shot those internal pics of SC - I certainly didn't ask!).

Of course legal rights and pragmatism are different - Sometimes it may not be worth an argument. As a keen photographer I've had plenty of these. But it's smart to know what is an isn't lawful.

Basically I plan my shots, act discreetly, and don't make a scene. Get in, take a shot, and get out again. Most of the time, no-one will notice.

BTW, here are some "prohibited" photos I've taken:
[Galleria Shopping Centre (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adonline/1353950615/)] [Southern Cross Station (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adonline/854524026/)] [Chadstone Shopping Centre (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adonline/2120467152/)] :lol:

Anyway, back to rail station pics....!

*This does not apply for Commonwealth-controlled National Parks, Defence land, rail yards and sheds (prohibited areas), electricity substations, the Shrine of Remembrance (VIC) or land controlled by the Sydney Foreshore Authority (NSW) or places where people would have a reasonable expectation of privacy (change rooms, toilets etc). And remember that Council land is NOT Crown land as councils have no constitutional recognition and are therefore legally corporations. You cannot take photos in public galleries because of copyright issues or potential damage to artworks, not because a law prohibits gallery photography.

Fabian

January 7th, 2008, 07:59 AM

Flinders Street Station, I wonder where...? hrmm?

No wonder why Flinders Street station is really popular with emos, it is because it is a dead end!

Is that the underpass that runs under Flinders St though the Yarra?

I went down there last month for the first time. I felt a bit uneasy as homeless people to tend to congregate there, hence no photos.

As for the photos, The Melbourne Central Shot was taken without a flash and I just try and hide from ticket officers and station staff to avoid detection.

I think it's silly people wont let you take shots on public land. What are they scared about at days end?

nmuzz

January 7th, 2008, 08:08 PM

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1111/543437281_f7bbee9ee1_o.jpg

LOL! Oh my Lord! In Penrith too!!:nuts:

Fabian

January 7th, 2008, 09:32 PM

Penrith

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9028/p1012822yp0.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3784/p1012752pv7.jpg

invincible

January 8th, 2008, 08:01 AM

As for why the ban might be in place in Melbourne, I'd say it has a lot to do with flash photography. Since most people are rather lazy and tend not to bother turning off the flash, they just went with a blanket ban.

As it is, I turn the flash OFF when photographing underground stations. Particularly when the focus is the trains - it'd not be a good idea to get a driver in the eyes with the flash!

That is probably the most likely reason.

My camera's external flash (SB-600) has a habit occasionally of firing itself when you leave it switched on (including standby mode) while you're trying to attach/remove it from the hot shoe on top of the camera body. When that happens to you in the dark or very low light, it's not nice. You lose vision for about 30 seconds and can't see anything but bright points of light.

This stuff is probably more aimed at non-photographers who don't actually know how to turn the flash on and off (or what it's purpose actually is). It's sort of funny watching people take photos at night and wondering why the city skyline in the background doesn't show up.

Anyway, if there is a process to follow to avoid being stopped, I abide by it since it's not really worth the hassle of getting moved along if all you have to do is drop into station management (Southern Cross) or post/fax/email a form you download from the internet (every other non-underground station). No point getting into fine points about the law since it's just a bad idea to get into an argument with staff.

The Olderfleet

January 8th, 2008, 09:15 AM

Anyway, if there is a process to follow to avoid being stopped, I abide by it since it's not really worth the hassle of getting moved along if all you have to do is drop into station management (Southern Cross) or post/fax/email a form you download from the internet (every other non-underground station). No point getting into fine points about the law since it's just a bad idea to get into an argument with staff.

I guess it comes down to your philosophical approach. I don't know why I should submit to some authority which has no legal or moral basis to hinder my lawful activities.

Railway stations aren't museums - I am sure a misfired flash doesn't do any damage to people or property! :lol:

I just get in and get out without being detected. And if I am detected, I just say I wanted a photo and cease if asked. Most of the time, the staff are polite and reasonable. Saves the hassle of pointless paperwork.

BTW, Connex is actually not even responsible for railway stations in Victoria. That job rests with the Victorian Rail Track Corporation - you may know them as VicTrack (http://www.victrack.com.au/). Connex is merely the lessee.

Fabian

January 8th, 2008, 09:31 AM

Martin Place Station in 1979.

Different barriers in those days

http://image.sl.nsw.gov.au/gpo4/02/d4_02940.jpg

http://image.sl.nsw.gov.au/gpo4/02/d4_02942.jpg

http://image.sl.nsw.gov.au/gpo4/02/d4_02944.jpg

http://image.sl.nsw.gov.au/gpo4/02/d4_02946.jpg

And above the booking office today, the cityrail network map from 1979 remains.

timnz2000

January 8th, 2008, 09:58 AM

Great photos guys!

I thought the photography ban was generally terrorism-related. Hence why it's only in force in underground stations where attacks are most likely. Didn't the people involved in the Melbourne plot a couple years back have both plans and photos on them of City Loop stations?

The Olderfleet

January 8th, 2008, 10:29 AM

I thought the photography ban was generally terrorism-related. Hence why it's only in force in underground stations where attacks are most likely. Didn't the people involved in the Melbourne plot a couple years back have both plans and photos on them of City Loop stations?

The "bans" are for all stations, underground or otherwise.

And the terrorism excuse is a joke.

In Manila, there's a risk of the Abu Sayyaf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Sayyaf) bombing the rail system. But there's no ban on photography. Instead, they weapons-check everyone who enters the terminals. And this is a city of 12 million. But that's what they do in places with a real terrorism threat, unlike Australia. The Filipinos understand that photo bans are pointless in a democratic society, and where cameras are embedded in phones and the like.

Photo "bans" are merely an attempt to make it look like something's being done to secure safety, without actually doing anything. The plethora of detailed station pics on the net shows how pointless this exercise is.

If there's a real terrorism risk (like at the airports for instance), then institute real security measures. Otherwise I wish they'd leave us photographers alone.

city_thing

January 8th, 2008, 11:39 AM

Fremantle station, Perth. I was here yesterday visiting a friend. It's actually quite a nice station, but it's very old and needs repair.

All photos are from Flickr.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1185/1453716918_fb6db7d6f2_b.jpg

I don't know why the Swans are white, considering the Black Swan is the symbol of WA
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/127/351363573_f475440ec7_o.jpg

Buskers are everywhere in Fremantle, especially at the station.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/198/440630772_e94d6376ae_b.jpg

Subiaco
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Above ground
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/139/401681283_1ef82358a2_o.jpg

MPJK

January 8th, 2008, 12:07 PM

Okay, who wants to see Sydney's ticket machine? :D

FlickR: dmmaus
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Perth4life

January 8th, 2008, 12:27 PM

why would you need buttons for every stop? pretty stupid IMO, can't people just know what zone?

These are Perths older ones
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/101/289070058_1c65648cdb.jpg

New touch screen ones , take notes and coins
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2284/2177014819_c0cc58ddde.jpg?v=0

We also have machines to put money on your smartrider with notes, credit card, eftpos card etc.

eastadl

January 8th, 2008, 12:37 PM

by the way P4L, is it a normal suburban train fare to Mandurah or is it a special ticket to get all the way.
That Sydney ticket machine is quite funny.
Fremantle Station looks in brilliant condition, compared to our shit

city_thing

January 8th, 2008, 12:44 PM

eastadl, it costs $7 to go from the very top of the green line (clarkson) to Mandurah (bottom of the orange line)

just under $3, if you're a concession traveler.

I remember they said that on the channel 9 documentary they made about the Orange Line.

It's quite a distance.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/52/Perth_Railway_Map.svg/200px-Perth_Railway_Map.svg.png

Bullswool

January 8th, 2008, 02:05 PM

$7.00 for 72km is very good imo :) even less with smartrider discounts.

joninbrisbane

January 8th, 2008, 02:26 PM

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Mt Morgan, Central QLD.
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/93/392666323_6213b96220_b.jpg
Marybourough, Queensland
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2256/2178082400_e851b98eab_b.jpg
Carseldine
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2372/2178079122_b166284eb1_b.jpg
Bundaberg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2238/2177306927_69387b1ee1.jpg
Lismore (After Closure)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2091/2178090980_1c546f68c0_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2346/2178093360_6658e28447.jpg
Mittagong
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2070/2177295425_c1e9d8a9b4_b.jpg
Casula
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2364/2177292929_0054d29e26_o.jpg
Cronulla
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2406/2177291863_5a67d7f107_o.jpg
Chatswood (During works for Epping - Chatswood Raillink)

Perth4life

January 8th, 2008, 04:03 PM

Fabian

January 8th, 2008, 09:11 PM

Sydney has the touchscreen machines as well, which I prefer to use.

MILIUX

January 8th, 2008, 10:54 PM

Sydney Central station looks like a glorified convict creation.

I want this to replace that run-down station. By none other than the genius...Calatrava.

ot2mGZe_pqU

"Travelators [moving walkways] located on the Meuse side, convey passengers effortlessly from the platforms towards the footbridges."

Imagine this travelators mobilising commuters to bus stations, lightrails, trains and through underground arcades. *sigh*

More info here.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=425140

If Sydney can lure world architects for skyscrapers, why not public buildings!! Argh!

cammo2004

January 9th, 2008, 12:24 AM

MILIUX: As nice as that is (I'm not a fan of Calatrava except when it comes to his stations - they really are something) I genuinely love Central, though I wish they hadn't bastardised the concourse with that modern ticket box. I don't understand why the old junk shop structure (which was nicer IMHO and fit much better with the feel of the rest of the structure.

They've thankfully been much more sympathetic with the rail heritage shop. Although the entrance to said shop is modern, it actually works well. Not to mention the stained glass windows were restored to their former glory!

P4L: Uh, what zones? Sydney uses a distance based system for most fares. There is a form of zonal ticket, known as TravelPass (which IMHO should be modified with the same number of zones but across the entire CityRail area, not just Greater Sydney.

Actually, the number of spare buttons under the TravelPass section makes me wonder...

hornetfig

January 9th, 2008, 07:32 AM

Martin Place Station in 1979.

Different barriers in those days

The new barriers are also located ~15m closer to the booking office than the originals (which are closer to the platform escalators).

And above the booking office today, the cityrail network map from 1979 remains.

Alas it's now gone :ohno: I noticed in November it'd been pulled off. To an extent I can understand why (it was grossly inaccurate) but it was important to the station's heritage. Hopefully they still have it somewhere.

gappa

January 9th, 2008, 07:43 AM

Some more:

Flinders St
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2115/2179171721_24e68b7792.jpg?v=0

Prahran
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2060/2178219333_116fbd804a.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2148/2178209883_b425c1b895.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2155/2178212105_cdfc228c37.jpg?v=0

South Yarra
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2267/2178386643_74a7a57ccd.jpg?v=0

MPJK

January 9th, 2008, 11:19 AM

What do people think of Museum Station in Sydney? In my opinion, it's one of the most Londonesque stations in Sydney! I really like it!

FlickR: John Wiley
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FlickR: somebodywww
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2218/2126266147_63b561e352_o.jpg

FlickR: jamesdean88
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tayser

January 9th, 2008, 12:48 PM

You're more likely to see a single cavern station like that in Paris actually, St. James is more of a tube station.

MPJK

January 9th, 2008, 12:49 PM

Hm, I haven't been to London but I've seen a pic or two of the London underground and thought it might have been similar. I've also seen some of the Paris underground, and it does look quite similar to what I've seen actually. Paris it is then!

Joelby

January 10th, 2008, 02:50 AM

I love Museum. I think it's definitely tube-esque, right down to the copying of the London Underground logo on the "Museum" signs. I find St James a bit odd though actually... all those unused tunnels and filled in odds and ends gives the station a bit of a weird feel to me. It seems a bit more run down than Museum too...

Aussie Bhoy

January 10th, 2008, 06:09 AM

Museum reminds me of the cut and cover London tube lines, such as the circle/district line.

Fabian

January 10th, 2008, 06:28 AM

I love the vintage billboards there, even for todays retailers!!!! :)

Wilko

January 10th, 2008, 07:38 AM

Okay, who wants to see Sydney's ticket machine? :D

FlickR: dmmaus
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2226/2165144351_d624e42058_b.jpg

OMFG :lol:

Auxodium

January 11th, 2008, 07:15 AM

the Manly by ferry and bus is amusing!

stubs

January 11th, 2008, 08:42 AM

Does anyone know how much is a TramLink ticket

hack404

January 11th, 2008, 09:08 AM

$7.00 for 72km is very good imo :) even less with smartrider discounts.

Over 100km if you travel from Clarkson...

brisbanite

January 11th, 2008, 10:05 AM

80% of Adelaides network looks like and is treated like that. Theres only a handful of stations that are decent. I hope it gets upgraded. At the moment, you wonder why they even keep the system going outside of peak hour

I was in Adelaide for the first time this week and rode on a few trains while there and couldn't believe the lack of facilities and blandness of most of the stations, especially Port Adelaide where a lot of tourists would disembark, needs a massive upgrade. I caught a train from Mile End and I was the only passenger on either of the 4 platforms and was there for about half an hour. Love Adelaide Central station though, very grand station.

smeghead

January 11th, 2008, 11:08 AM

Sydney has the touchscreen machines as well, which I prefer to use.
I found the touch screen TVMs to be slower than the standard TVMs. Going through all those menus and screens wastes vital seconds.

the Manly by ferry and bus is amusing!
What's so amusing about it? Its two tickets for two modes integrated onto one ticket product. We may not have all PT on one fare system, but you can't say they've haven't made some effort to encourage multi-modal trips.

Does anyone know how much is a TramLink ticket
I'm guessing its just a matter adding the cost of a return fare from your origin to Central, plus the corresponding tram fare (depending on how many zones you want to travel). I've never bought the ticket myself but then I haven't used that overpriced bus on rails for several years. The bus to Pyrmont is cheaper - you can get them from Railway Square or Wynyard.

city_thing

January 11th, 2008, 11:09 AM

It [Adelaide] is quite a nice station actually. I'd love to see it become to hub of an awesome suburban network. They should really get rid of the casino part, and the shopping looks a bit tacky.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/343241163_5ad2a32660_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/380281991_2d8fda0e29_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1385/1049387857_76e9ae1269_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1275/1049391361_394bc273f8_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/149/431186778_f65ef9c13b_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1390/1352497435_7a1ce6b1ee_o.jpg

Bullswool

January 11th, 2008, 11:10 AM

Over 100km if you travel from Clarkson...

105km to be exact :)

joninbrisbane

January 11th, 2008, 11:12 AM

Does anyone know how much is a TramLink ticket

One should assume it's the tram fare + cityrail fare (eg Carlton to Zone 2 would be $7.80 one way).

city_thing

January 11th, 2008, 11:21 AM

Perth really does have the shittiest central terminus (except for the underground platforms) in Australia.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1432/1246770807_e339c29cfa_b.jpg
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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2391/2137710788_c573e6f601_b.jpg

Svartmetall

January 11th, 2008, 11:38 AM

That ticket machine in Sydney is the most crazy crazy thing I've ever seen. It was ages ago when I last caught a train in Sydney (back in 2004) so I really can't remember how I bought my ticket, but I seriously don't think it was through one of them. I'd not have known where to start!

Here was me thinking that the automatic ticket machines in National Rail stations back in the UK were complex!

LanceDriver

January 11th, 2008, 12:27 PM

^ more sydneysiders queue at the ticket booth than attempt using those machines. i bet that after years there's people who have never gained the courage to attempt using them, touch screen included.

smeghead

January 11th, 2008, 01:35 PM

^ more sydneysiders queue at the ticket booth than attempt using those machines. i bet that after years there's people who have never gained the courage to attempt using them, touch screen included.

Any ticketing system is too complex or unfamiliar to infrequent/first-time users, or those of NESB. It may also be that they have a $20 or $50 note and don't want change in coins-only.

It also doesnt help that the picture does not include the LCD screen or the printed instructions that shows the steps needed to buy a ticket.

1: Select Destination
2: Select fare and concession type (if applicable)
3: Insert money (coins or notes accepted)
http://www.cityrail.info/Travelling_with_CityRail/English/english.jsp

It is not rocket science.

If you take the Transperth vending machine, it too would take someone a few moments to realise that each number next to each station is the number they're supposed to enter. And they may never figure out that the number is actually a zone, rather than a measure of distance or sections.

eastadl

January 11th, 2008, 02:56 PM

city thing, I actually didnt mind Perth's main station when I was there last. I like the openess, even though its under that nice large glass canopy thing. Very bright and modern, and busy. its quite nice for a train station

AtD

January 12th, 2008, 01:00 AM

That photo of Adelaide's concourse must be old, it's not covered in advertising!

lawson18

January 12th, 2008, 02:43 AM

Morjo

January 12th, 2008, 03:01 AM

Whats the go with that crazy Sydney ticket machine? Surly they could have come up with a simpler design.

brisbanite

January 12th, 2008, 03:22 AM

Adelaide Central is a very impressive station but it is let down by the outer suburbs' stations such as Port Adelaide which you thought would be a prominent station. I wish I had of taken a photo while I was there but is is an elevated station with two old metal shelters on each platform with a ramp up from the street level with just dirt & rubbish underneath the station. My wife and I caught the train there to visit the museums and the heritage area as a tourist and I would gather that many other tourists visiting the area would use the station as well and needs a major facelift.

Are there any plans to upgrade this or other stations on the system?

beastjim

January 12th, 2008, 05:03 AM

Whats the go with that crazy Sydney ticket machine? Surly they could have come up with a simpler design.

It just has every station listed in alphabetical order, although the intercity lines are separated into there own columns. So it really is quite simple to use, just looks intimidating. That type of machine has been around a while as well, although they have been updated for T Card stuff.

AtD

January 12th, 2008, 06:32 AM

Are there any plans to upgrade this or other stations on the system?

No. :(

There's one station on the Noarlunga line that's getting a major face lift.

Port Adelaide needs it badly, I agree. With all the new development going on there, hopefully it'll happen soon.

hornetfig

January 12th, 2008, 08:26 AM

Whats the go with that crazy Sydney ticket machine? Surly they could have come up with a simpler design.

impossible without a video screen (of which there is usually one at major stations one none at minor stations) because fares are point to point based on minimum rail distance.

nmuzz

January 13th, 2008, 12:40 AM

It [Adelaide] is quite a nice station actually. I'd love to see it become to hub of an awesome suburban network. They should really get rid of the casino part, and the shopping looks a bit tacky.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/343241163_5ad2a32660_b.jpg

This is cool - It reminds me of the interior of Union Station in Wachington DC a bit! Adelaide's central station could be world class!!

Cruise

January 13th, 2008, 07:25 AM

http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/ticketing/images/metroticket2.jpg

Adelaide ticket machine, Very simple!!!
http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/ticketing/images/vendingmachine.jpg

MPJK

January 13th, 2008, 07:47 AM

That ticket machine in Sydney is the most crazy crazy thing I've ever seen.

Haha, it's not that scary, honest! :D

I'll guide you through it. Imagine you're at Ashfield station and want to go to Redfern station.
1. So you find Redfern and click on it (finding it amongst those stations does look a bit intimidating, but it should only take 10 seconds at most).
2. You move to the right to decide your fare type. A one way ticket, a return ticket, a weekly ticket (if you intend to go there and back for the whole week and don't want to go through the same manual process of buying a ticket every day) or the CityHopper which is a more free-method of travelling around the City stations. So, you'd probably pick one of the first two.
3. Then you move down to the Concession bit. If you're not a student with a student concession card, or an elderly person or child, you pick your button, and if you're not eligible for any, you can just ignore it.
4. Put the money in (notes and coins are both accepted). Usually it will say that the maximum change is $19.99 or so, so anything below a $20 note should be fine.
5. At the bottom, the ticket and change fall, you pick them up, and voila, you can leave.

AtD

January 13th, 2008, 07:49 AM

That's one gripe I have about Canberra's ticket system. It's essentially the same concept as Adelaide, but you can read a book and have a coffee while you wait for the machine to validate it. Even though the buses have rear doors, they refuse to let you use them. Loading and unloading takes a ridiculous amount of time.

MPJK

January 13th, 2008, 07:51 AM

^ more sydneysiders queue at the ticket booth than attempt using those machines. i bet that after years there's people who have never gained the courage to attempt using them, touch screen included.

I was pretty much forced to use the machine the first time. It was a bit intimidating at first, but I had no choice! My train was going to come in 1 minute, and the line for the ticket booth was too long and had too many people that must have been paying for their tickets in 5 cent coins. So I had to work up the courage, run to the machine, and quickly get my ticket in 1 minute. I made it just in time also, so I tend to always use the machine nowadays. The good thing about it is that people probably seem too intimidated by it that many never prefer to use it, which is good for me because the queue for the machine is usually much shorter, though not always! :)

Jean Luc

January 13th, 2008, 10:13 AM

Today at Lewishan station at 4pm both the ticket office and ticket vending machine were closed! So I just got on the train and snuck through the pram gate at Town Hall station whilst the station staff were preoccupied with someone else. If ShittyRail won't allow me to buy a ticket then as far as I'm concerned I can travel for free. Fuck 'em.

Fabian

January 14th, 2008, 09:52 AM

In a situation like that, just go to the ticket office, and notify them of the machines being unavailable when buying a ticket.

During the Rockdale station upgrade in 2002, the ticket office and machines were closed for one weekend to enable important work to be undertaken and we were told to buy our tickets at our destination, which wasnt a problem, plus station staff were notified of it

Fabian

January 14th, 2008, 09:53 AM

Town Hall

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6907/pa042394ld0.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/262/pa042397ry3.jpg

Martin Place

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4474/dscf2546xg4.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4493/dscf2548pk6.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1310/dscf2547oq6.jpg

Alphaville

January 14th, 2008, 01:03 PM

I love Town Hall station in all it's gritty glory!

Martin Place looks like it belongs on Melbourne's City Loop (that concourse looks like the one at Flagstaff)

Alphaville

January 14th, 2008, 01:33 PM

The OK:
Boronia, Belgrave line
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/Boronia1.jpg
Watergardens, Sydenham line
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/aa/Watergardens-station-platform.jpg

The bad:
Dandenong, Pakenham/Cranbourne line
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/Danenong_station_rain.JPG
Box Hill, Lilydale/Belgrave line
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Box-Hill-station-platform.jpg

The sparse:
Laburnum, Lilydale/Belgrave line
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/63/New_Laburnum_station.jpg/300px-New_Laburnum_station.jpg
Kananook, Frankston line
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6a/Kananook_railway_station%2C_Melbourne.jpg/800px-Kananook_railway_station%2C_Melbourne.jpg

brisbanite

January 14th, 2008, 01:47 PM

What's wrong with Dandenong station? I have never been there but doesn't look too bad from the photo. Thanks for the pics, haven't seen a few lines in Melbourne. I dare say the announcements made at Boronia station would echo a bit.

Alphaville

January 14th, 2008, 10:14 PM

What's wrong with Dandenong station? I have never been there but doesn't look too bad from the photo..

Hehe. It's not so much the station, just the shit that goes on there (especially on the line between Dandenong and Clayton).

It is much safer these days, more just a reputation I played onto. But yes, Dandenong was renovated about 10 years ago--it looks alright.

brisbanite

January 18th, 2008, 02:34 PM

Photo of the old Hobart station building which is now part of the ABC studios in Hobart.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2790/p1010185qi3.jpg

Svartmetall

January 19th, 2008, 01:50 AM

Haha, it's not that scary, honest! :D

I'll guide you through it. Imagine you're at Ashfield station and want to go to Redfern station.
1. So you find Redfern and click on it (finding it amongst those stations does look a bit intimidating, but it should only take 10 seconds at most).
2. You move to the right to decide your fare type. A one way ticket, a return ticket, a weekly ticket (if you intend to go there and back for the whole week and don't want to go through the same manual process of buying a ticket every day) or the CityHopper which is a more free-method of travelling around the City stations. So, you'd probably pick one of the first two.
3. Then you move down to the Concession bit. If you're not a student with a student concession card, or an elderly person or child, you pick your button, and if you're not eligible for any, you can just ignore it.
4. Put the money in (notes and coins are both accepted). Usually it will say that the maximum change is $19.99 or so, so anything below a $20 note should be fine.
5. At the bottom, the ticket and change fall, you pick them up, and voila, you can leave.

Oh I realise how to use it, it's very similar to the machines in the UK (but we had much less buttons) but having a button for each station seems like a waste. Couldn't they just assign a number code to each station and then people use that?

Tyler

January 19th, 2008, 05:38 AM

Belgrave station. The only good thing really going for this station is that it's a premium station meaning it's staffed from first to last train. Oh and it's next to puffing billy.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/wagovernment/MyholidaytoMelAde240.jpg

On the wall on the left and right, theres timetables for the Belgrave/Lilydale lines. This is what Perth needs to invest in.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/wagovernment/MyholidaytoMelAde241.jpg

Look at that gap between platform and carriage!!
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/wagovernment/MyholidaytoMelAde246.jpg

Ringwood station. This is the last station before the Lilydale/Belgrave lines branch off there separate ways. This is a major station with a bus interchange and the Eastland shopping centre across the road.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/wagovernment/MyholidaytoMelAde264.jpg

A couple of bus shelters to provide extra weather protection and an advertising sign that's popular at major stations across Melbourne.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/wagovernment/MyholidaytoMelAde262.jpg

Oakleigh Station - Pakenham/Cranbourne line. This station is one of 2 that are closest to Chadstone Shopping Centre.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/wagovernment/MyholidaytoMelAde290.jpg

A good selection of photos and history in the waitng room at Oakleigh station.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/wagovernment/MyholidaytoMelAde287.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/wagovernment/MyholidaytoMelAde288.jpg

brisbanite

January 19th, 2008, 01:46 PM

How far is the puffing billy from Belgrave station?

Tyler

January 19th, 2008, 03:55 PM

See the bridge in the background of the first photo? You walk under that bridge from the platform then it's about a 50m walk to the puffing billy ticket office/cafe.

brisbanite

January 19th, 2008, 04:08 PM

Thanks, it is on my to do list.

MPJK

January 20th, 2008, 02:16 AM

Will there ever be a train line going to any of Melbourne's airports?

invincible

January 20th, 2008, 03:01 AM

Ever? Probably.

Not any time soon though - the Skybus serves the airport well with services running 24 hours at up to 10 minute frequencies. The bad thing is that it does attract a premium fare and isn't well suited to people who work at the airport. A rail line will need major upgrade of existing bottlenecks in the western suburbs first. You have to keep in mind that Tullamarine airport is very far away from the CBD - it's a similar distance to say, Doncaster or Rowville, which both have a greater need for railway lines.

Skybus probably illustrates how high fares have to be in order for a private company to operate a high frequency bus route without having to rely on government subsidies.

city_thing

January 20th, 2008, 03:10 AM

Tullamarine is already quite close to a suburban rail line though, isn't it? A spur line wouldn't be that hard to construct...

gappa

January 20th, 2008, 06:13 AM

BleakCity

January 20th, 2008, 07:32 AM

The only way an airport link would be viable in this city is if it were serving airport workers, rather than passengers (who already get an almost unbeatable service, in terms of frequency and speed, through Skybus)

The problem is the majority of airport workers don't live along the Broadmeadows corridor, (and certainly not the Sunshine/Keilor Park corridor) but in areas like Sunbury and Avondale Heights. The other issue is the sparseness of the precinct, with commercial areas split between Airport West, Tullamarine, Keilor Park, the Air Maintenance sites, and the airport proper. A rail extension via Broadmeadows would only serve one of these areas.

The airport is very poorly served by buses and this is where the upgrades should take place, with frequent serices from - Sunbury, Broadmeadows/Tullamarine, Maribyrnong/Avondale Heights, Sydenham/Keilor, and Sunshine or St Albans. An extension of the Airport West tram wouldn't go astray either.

brisbanite

January 20th, 2008, 08:47 AM

Aussie Bhoy

January 20th, 2008, 08:52 AM

I wonder if Melbourne is the only western city in the world, of that sort of population, that doesn't have a train line running to its airport?

brisbanite

January 20th, 2008, 08:54 AM

I know Dublin doesn't, but has a pretty good bus service to it and you don't pay premium fares either.

Aussie Bhoy

January 20th, 2008, 08:55 AM

Dublin has a population of 1.1 million, Melbourne is close to 4 million

brisbanite

January 20th, 2008, 09:05 AM

Dublin has a population of 1.1 million, Melbourne is close to 4 million

Yeah but Dublin has about 3million aussies there at most times.

Tyson

January 20th, 2008, 09:06 AM

There are plenty of airports in North America without any form of rail transport to them. Boston, Toronto, Los Angeles, Washington DC, Vancouver, Phoenix, all don't have them as far as I know.

city_thing

January 20th, 2008, 09:38 AM

Dublin's metro line, which is under construction, is going to connect to the airport.

Svartmetall

January 20th, 2008, 10:15 AM

^^ The Canada line in Vancouver will link to the airport. Also, the silver line in DC is meant to connect to the airport but that isn't going ahead as of yet.

cool_dude69

January 20th, 2008, 11:18 AM

Rockhampton's Archer Park Station. This station was the main station for the Purrey Steam Trams that operated in Rocky between 1909 and 1935, the station is now home to the Archer Park Steam Tram Museum. The Purrey Steam tram is said to be the only operational one in the world.

http://www.abc.net.au/centralqld/stories/m411645.jpg

http://2004.informingscience.org/images/ArcherPark.jpg

http://www.rockhampton.qld.gov.au/doccache/uploadfiles/12516-station1.jpg

http://www.rockhampton.qld.gov.au/doccache/uploadfiles/12512-tram2.jpg

§æµ

January 20th, 2008, 11:39 AM

New:
http://i2.tinypic.com/85l0oef.jpg

Unfortunely Old:
http://i3.tinypic.com/868s22p.jpg

Interior of New Station:
http://i17.tinypic.com/7wsddef.jpg

The new Townsville Station just looks like a ugly sububian station!

BleakCity

January 20th, 2008, 12:12 PM

What about extending the tram line from Airport West or is it too slow for a commute to the city via the trams? Years ago when I travelled to Melbourne and on a tight budget, I used to catch the tram to Airport West and then get a cab from there. I realised it was a lot of mucking around just to save a little bit of money.
Be fairly slow into the city (currently about 40-55 minutes depending on time of day), but the real benefit would be offering an alternative to workers in the Moonee Valley and Airport West areas.

I wonder if Melbourne is the only western city in the world, of that sort of population, that doesn't have a train line running to its airport?
I'm sure there'd be many others

You need to put it in perspective, Melbourne's airport is 19Km crow flight from the CBD, Sydney's is only about 8Km, and Brisbane's 12Km.

Tyson

January 20th, 2008, 12:27 PM

Considering the distance, the Skybus is also pretty fast. Only takes about 20mins to get into the city.

brisbanite

January 20th, 2008, 12:42 PM

You need to put it in perspective, Melbourne's airport is 19Km crow flight from the CBD, Sydney's is only about 8Km, and Brisbane's 12Km.

That's even more the reason to have a rail link. I have caught the taxi many times from Melbourne airport and the fare can be horrendous at times and I would gladly pay the $13 to the city as it is in Brisbane. But I have to admit the skybus is fairly competitive and ok if you are staying near Spencer St Station. I think we are getting off the topic a bit though.

brisbanite

January 20th, 2008, 12:46 PM

Thanks for the photos Cool Dude69, how far does the Purrey steam tram run and when is it in operation?

BleakCity

January 20th, 2008, 01:38 PM

That's even more the reason to have a rail link. I have caught the taxi many times from Melbourne airport and the fare can be horrendous at times and I would gladly pay the $13 to the city as it is in Brisbane. But I have to admit the skybus is fairly competitive and ok if you are staying near Spencer St Station. I think we are getting off the topic a bit though.
The problem is that we will never be able to build anything that could remotely compete with Skybus - the best concept would be for a suburban extension to serve airport workers.

On railway stations:

Wicked site for Victoria, pretty much every site in the state: Victorian Railway Stations - Ross Thompson (http://www.vicrailstations.com/)

Some of the more interesting/funny/odd etc. ones from Victoria, from wiki:

Flemington Bridge
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Flemington-Bridge-Station-Melbourne.jpg/800px-Flemington-Bridge-Station-Melbourne.jpg

Macaulay (charming):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/Macaulay-Station-Melbourne.jpg/800px-Macaulay-Station-Melbourne.jpg

South Kensington:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ae/South-kensington-station-platform.jpg

Batman:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Batman-station-platform.jpg

Middle Footscray:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Middle-footscray-telephoto.jpg/800px-Middle-footscray-telephoto.jpg

St Albans (ain't that old a pic, really looks like this):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/St-albans-station-platform1.jpg

Paisley (closed):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/PaisleyPlatform.jpg

Jacana (inviting):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a5/Jacana_railway_station%2C_Melbourne.jpg/800px-Jacana_railway_station%2C_Melbourne.jpg

Ardeer (taking a leaf from the Adelaide book of station design):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/2007-09-ARD-stn.jpg/800px-2007-09-ARD-stn.jpg

Rockbank (same line):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/97/Rockbank3.jpg

Kananook (or Stabanook etc.):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6a/Kananook_railway_station%2C_Melbourne.jpg/800px-Kananook_railway_station%2C_Melbourne.jpg

East Malvern (all the charm of a concrete slab):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/East-malvern-station-overpass.jpg

Heyington:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/Heyington-station-platform.jpg

Wattle Glen:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0e/Wattle-glen-station-platform.jpg

Watsonia:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/59/Watsonia-station-platform2.jpg

West Richmond:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3e/West-richmond-station-platform.jpg

Rushall:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Rushall-station-platform.jpg

Keon Park (inviting):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/Keon_park_station.jpg

Epping (line to South Marong in foreground):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Epping-station-building.jpg

Ashburton (leafy):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/Alamein_Line.jpg

Tecoma:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/TecomaStation2.jpg

East Richmond:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/East_Richmond_Station_Melbourne1.jpg

Heatherdale:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5c/Heatherdalebuilding.JPG

Lilydale:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/Lilydale2.jpg

Hawksburn (dunno why it isn't Hawkesburn):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fb/Hawksburn-station-overpass.jpg

Malvern (look familiar, no it isn't Camberwell, or Hawkesburn, or Toorak, or Armadale etc.):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/14/Malvern-station-platform.jpg

General Motors (closed):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/General-motors-station-melbourne.jpg

Merinda Park (another charmer, built for double track, currently only single):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c7/Merindanight.jpg

Balaclava:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/BalaclavaStation.jpg

Elsternwick:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Elsternwick_Railway_Station_Platform.jpg/800px-Elsternwick_Railway_Station_Platform.jpg

Brighton Beach:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e9/Brighton-beach-station-overpass.jpg

Leawarra (no, it isn't closed):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2d/Leawarra1.jpg

Baxter (romantic):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/Baxter-station-platform.jpg

Stony Point:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/20/Normal_100_1930.JPG

Parliament (owns all):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3f/Parliament_Platform_3.jpg/796px-Parliament_Platform_3.jpg

brisbanite

January 20th, 2008, 01:51 PM

Thanks for the pics Bleakcity. Doesn't Jacana station look like somewhere you would want to catch a train from late on a saturday night.

cool_dude69

January 20th, 2008, 02:09 PM

Thanks for the photos Cool Dude69, how far does the Purrey steam tram run and when is it in operation?

It is about a 15 Minute ride up the centre of Rocky City, and it runs every Sunday.

city_thing

January 21st, 2008, 08:44 AM

invincible

January 21st, 2008, 09:17 AM

Great photos Bleakcity. I can't believe how bad some of Melbourne's stations are. They look like they haven't been used, or had any repair work carried out on, in years.

I'd love for the Government to through $2B at Melbourne's rail system, and make it fucking awesome.

There are heaps more of your more typical stations but there's only so much you can post because they pretty much all look the same - for example, the stations between South Yarra and Caulfield are built to almost identical designs.

Some stations look bad because no one uses them - most of BleakCity's pictures are minor stations. Wattle Glen is outside the Melbourne metro area and is only a town of 1500.

Stations today only need some shelter (coverage depends on how many people use the station), some seats, ticket machine, the talking brick and frames for timetables.

cammo2004

January 21st, 2008, 10:27 AM

I will never complain about a lack of seats on Sydney's stations again.

Even Sydney's worst stations don't look as bad as some of those.

realmakoym8

January 21st, 2008, 12:33 PM

Okay, who wants to see Sydney's ticket machine? :D

FlickR: dmmaus
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2226/2165144351_d624e42058_b.jpg

FFS that is not real? No person is so retarded as to design that? Its got more buttons than BF2 and COD4 put together.

MILIUX

January 21st, 2008, 07:01 PM

They seriously need to get a contactless smart card rolling.

I think Sydney is ready to join the rest of civilised world. Usher in the 21st century. Those buttons remind me of the telephone exchange in the early part of 20th century where operators had to physically plug in wires for connection.

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/3317813.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=11B127B063386F61687F85B2B7FF630FA55A1E4F32AD3138

hornetfig

January 22nd, 2008, 06:56 AM

FFS that is not real? No person is so retarded as to design that? Its got more buttons than BF2 and COD4 put together.

What else are you going to do? The fares are distance-based and so vary with every source and destination scale. So you have to be able to specify every single station on the network. Without a touch screen, this is about the best you'll do - every station has the same machine so when you know where your destination station is it doesn't matter what your source station is.

MPJK

January 22nd, 2008, 07:58 AM

There are also touch screens at some stations on the Cityrail network which I've used in the past also. I've never had a problem with them either!

Tyson

January 22nd, 2008, 08:51 AM

Must be annoying for them when a new station is opened and they have to go and modify every machine on the network for it.

invincible

January 22nd, 2008, 09:17 AM

What about a 20 character dot matrix display and a numeric keypad, to at least replace all the buttons for minor stations?

It's too late to modify them now with the current ticketing system nearing the end of its life, but surely that could have been considered back when the ticket machines were first introduced?

Fabian

January 22nd, 2008, 10:14 AM

Cityrail have coin only machines that sell daily and return tickets based on zones (up to a particular distance from the station that you buy the ticket from).

JVogt

January 22nd, 2008, 10:21 AM

Simple solution for that is don't add stations! :)

beastjim

January 22nd, 2008, 12:43 PM

Must be annoying for them when a new station is opened and they have to go and modify every machine on the network for it.

I would suggest that the station list is actually just a plastic plate that sits over the buttons, and inside the machine the buttons can be changed to reflect whatever they want as long as there are spare buttons. All the machines knows is that button number 23 was pressed which then goes to a table to look up what button 23 getting pressed means. So in the frame of mind it is easy to change. However all completely new machines would have been installed recently for that lime green T-Card section so its a wonder they didn't follow Brisbane and go for Touch Screens everywhere.

eastadl

January 22nd, 2008, 01:00 PM

heres 2 from a few months ago of Alberton stn, ADL

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1403/1481268223_eb76eb9083_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1208/1482125784_9ae3104ade_o.jpg

PerthCity

January 22nd, 2008, 01:08 PM

Shocking. :ohno:And it could be a cute little station if looked after too.

Bullswool

January 22nd, 2008, 01:16 PM

omg that is terrible. And I thought the grafiti on our railwaylines were bad. Why don't they keep the stations clean?

AtD

January 22nd, 2008, 01:30 PM

omg that is terrible. And I thought the grafiti on our railwaylines were bad. Why don't they keep the stations clean?

Because it's Alberton!

brisbanite

January 22nd, 2008, 01:59 PM

Its funny in Adelaide that the ticket machines are on the train. If you are only going a couple of stations you could stand next to the machine and wait to see if a conductor turns up. Most of the stations I saw in Adelaide were unmanned so I bet a lot of fare evasion would occur.

AtD

January 22nd, 2008, 03:36 PM

^^ The majority of trips are to/from Adelaide station, which has gates.

bdm

January 22nd, 2008, 11:18 PM

Alberton.... isn't that the closest station to Port Power HQ?

AtD

January 23rd, 2008, 12:40 AM

^^ That'd be Cheltenham.

Joelby

January 23rd, 2008, 02:47 AM

My favourite part is the item of clothing on the roof. Nice touch :)

caide

January 23rd, 2008, 04:02 AM

heres 2 from a few months ago of Alberton stn, ADL

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1208/1482125784_9ae3104ade_o.jpg

Looks like a run down version of Perth's Claremont to me, anyone else think so? :lol:

MPJK

January 23rd, 2008, 05:44 AM

I'll show the exterior of Newtown Station in Sydney, which is situated on a nice busy artistic bohemian yuppy street, with cafes, restaurants, bookshops, straight couples, gay couples and so on in the inner city.

FlickR: mtmaus
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/93/225029928_c9b451686e_b.jpg

MPJK

January 23rd, 2008, 05:50 AM

Ashfield Station, Sydney (I've got lots of nice memories here <3)

FlickR: Mobile Children's Services in NSW
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/103/282776928_40f7768cb6_b.jpg

FlickR: Dushan and Miae
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/83/275904884_8a4ad86958_b.jpg

hayds

January 23rd, 2008, 09:38 AM

Ashfield Station, Sydney (I've got lots of nice memories here <3)

like that one time...when you were waiting for the train.

And that other time...when the train came.

Then theres all those ticket machine stories!! :lol:

And uuummmmm.....

MPJK

January 23rd, 2008, 11:36 AM

like that one time...when you were waiting for the train.

And that other time...when the train came.

Then theres all those ticket machine stories!! :lol:

And uuummmmm.....

Hahaha! :lol: Not quite but good job!

MILIUX

January 23rd, 2008, 06:38 PM

What's with all these corregated steel rooftop stations? Can't they build NICE stations instead of constructing a barn?

Good riddance!

Cactus

January 24th, 2008, 05:08 AM

Maquarie Park and Chatswood interchange. Under-construction.
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3384/macparkchatste3.png

Macuarie Uni and one of the North Ryde entry points.
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3559/uninthrydepy6.png

From the Industry briefing docos. http://www.tidc.nsw.gov.au/Default.aspx

Cruise

January 24th, 2008, 05:23 AM

heres 2 from a few months ago of Alberton stn, ADL

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1403/1481268223_eb76eb9083_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1208/1482125784_9ae3104ade_o.jpg

Those stations aren't always like that. these pictures was obviously taken just after Perth4life's last trip to Adelaide

cool_dude69

January 24th, 2008, 05:45 AM

Brisbane's Central Station

Photos from Flickr
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1072/2962737717672612348wk8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5258/411931321291c6b0002mn2.jpg

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3931/411931324a4d20e2e03hx1.jpg

Alphaville

January 24th, 2008, 07:14 AM

^^^

It reminds me of Box Hill. What year was that station built? Is it the same as Roma Street?

beastjim

January 24th, 2008, 07:59 AM

^^^

It reminds me of Box Hill. What year was that station built? Is it the same as Roma Street?

I am not sure about platforms 1-4 of which you mostly see in those photos, but platforms 5 & 6 were added about 10-15 years ago. And Roma Street is completely different, its open air with more platforms and a "subtropical" feel.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1059/dsc02551ey4.jpg

cool_dude69

January 24th, 2008, 08:56 AM

SE Queensland Stations

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/455/2188625845b45061aa49bv6.jpg
Helensvale Station

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9076/59719041673d48a246tl1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Airport Domestic

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4666/599311798d41f92457xx5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Airport International

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7559/2076707955d82e540d49pi2.jpg
Brunswick Street Station

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/190/1333848241dfa39505esd2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
South Brisbane Station

Sunbus610

January 24th, 2008, 02:00 PM

Here are some photos I'd taken a little while back showing the abondoned railway stations on Brisbane's old Pinkenba branch line. This entire branch line was unfortunately closed to passenger rail services back in 1993, five years later the line was re-opened again in 1998 however this was only as far as Doomben railway station (which was called Whinstanes-Doomben back then). The passenger rail service beyond Doomben station have been replaced for many years with a railbus service. Some freight train services still operate today beyond Doomben.
NB: Some may remember seeing these photos of mine on the ATDB forum site some time back.

old Airport railway station, this station is where the overhead wires for electrification (which was completed back in 1988) finished.
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3698/oldairportstation7lx7.jpg

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4388/oldairportstation6xn4.jpg

Eagle Farm railway station
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/797/eaglefarmstationru5.jpg

Bunour railway station
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7580/bunourstationmp3.jpg

Meeandah railway station
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/474/meeandahstation2up3.jpg

and what is left of Pinkenba railway station
(apologies for the last photo being a little out of focus)
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2301/pinkenbastationkr5.jpg

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/351/pinkenbastation5zr0.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/394/pinkenbastation4od9.jpg

A QR Citytrain rail network map from the early 1990's showing the stations on this line
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/27/mapofpinkenbaraillinema1.jpg

And finally, some photos of Doomben railway station, now the end of the line for passenger services
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2260/doombenstation2vy2.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8132/doombenstation3af9.jpg

brisbanite

January 24th, 2008, 02:13 PM

Thanks for the pics Sunbus610. Does anyone know how patronised the line to Pinkenba was in the old days? I'd say only industrial employees would have used it with a sprinkle of residents of Pinkenba.

Perth4life

January 24th, 2008, 03:53 PM

Those stations aren't always like that. these pictures was obviously taken just after Perth4life's last trip to Adelaide

yes i have a photo of it now!
thanks

Aussie Bhoy

January 25th, 2008, 12:02 AM

Good pics Sunbus610, always sad to see a line unused or closed. Hopefully it is kept for any future expansion.

Couple of early 80's Brisbane pics of South Brisbane station, and Park Road

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1853/1980ssouthbrisbanestatiwi8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4239/trainatparkroadfj9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

brisbanite

January 25th, 2008, 06:36 AM

There were a quite a few platforms when Sth Brisbane was a terminus. Thanks for the pics Aussie Bhoy, was that first one of Sth Brisbane taken when it was a terminus as you can see the Merivale Bridge in the background?

MPJK

January 25th, 2008, 06:44 AM

Nice! I really like the Domestic and International Airport stations there! I actually like them more than I like Brisbane Central Station, which is a little too 1980s for my tastes.

brisbanite

January 25th, 2008, 08:08 AM

Pictures of Eagle Junction, Nundah and Albion train stations on the northern line in Brisbane.

Eagle Junction
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3224/800pxejstation5380b5wl5.jpg

Nundah
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2226/800pxnundahstation54a51ew4.jpg

Albion
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/887/750pxalbionstation55c72ht9.jpg

Jean Luc

January 25th, 2008, 09:28 AM

How far away from the old airport terminal was the Airport station? Did anyone actually ever use it to get to and from the airport in those days?

Aussie Bhoy

January 25th, 2008, 09:40 AM

How far away from the old airport terminal was the Airport station? Did anyone actually ever use it to get to and from the airport in those days?

Not sure how used it was, I didn't even realise that it had existed, but you can see what I think is the old TAA terminal from the platform here.

Photo from Huggies on Railpage
http://www.railpage.com.au/f-p760105.htm

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3672/airporttrainstationlt2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Jean Luc

January 25th, 2008, 11:25 AM

^ Hmmm interesting. Thanks for that! :)

From the Railpage discussion apparently it was used more by airport employees than passengers, which is not surprising seeing how far people would have to carry their luggage to and from the terminal, through a car park and across a road, with no shelter from the sun or rain. From what I can see the station is pretty bare too and the non-electric train service probably wasn't very frequent either.

Regardless, it seems that Brisbane Airport was the first in Australia to have a train service!

Sunbus610

January 25th, 2008, 02:30 PM

Pictures of Eagle Junction, Nundah and Albion train stations on the northern line in Brisbane.

You forgot Toombul railway station:)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4682/emu63ny4.jpg

cammo2004

January 25th, 2008, 10:22 PM

^^^^

Yikes, that's a narrow platform!

Sunbus610

January 25th, 2008, 11:14 PM

^^^^

Yikes, that's a narrow platform!

It's not quiet that norrow, the photo was taken with my mobile phone camera at the time and it has distorted it slightly.

Toombul station (http://qroti.com/southeast/explore/stations/509.jpg)

beastjim

January 26th, 2008, 01:47 AM

It's not quiet that norrow, the photo was taken with my mobile phone camera at the time and it has distorted it slightly.

Toombul station (http://qroti.com/southeast/explore/stations/509.jpg)

She is still pretty narrow, but alot stations are like that in the inner area of Brisbane particularly on the Corinda - Northgate Corridor. They were all done when the quadruplication of the lines were done, however one platform will normally be a decent width with the other rather narrow, however the narrow platform will be used for only a handful for peak hour services so its of little worry. However at Toombul both platforms are narrow as it is squeezed in.

Trunter

January 29th, 2008, 06:25 AM

From my experience, Sydney definitely has the best stations around Australia.

Fabian

January 29th, 2008, 06:42 AM

Belmore Station (Bankstown Line, Sydney)

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1816/p1013091dk0.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4098/p1013090wy2.jpg

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6610/p1013088wo3.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/696/p1013086oi0.jpg

Sydenham Station (Illawarra/East Hills/Bankstown Lines, Sydney)

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4504/p1013108ll4.jpg

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/9377/p1013107qf8.jpg

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6885/p1013104mw1.jpg

Tyler

January 29th, 2008, 11:38 AM

That first photo is funny.

There's a signalised pedestrian crossing leading directly to the station entrance and the lift which is great for accessability but look closer, there's a large curb with no ramp anywhere to be seen. Wheelchairs and goofers will certainly have some trouble now won't they? :ohno:

Sunbus610

January 29th, 2008, 12:46 PM

I thought I'd post some photos I took just recently of Warwick railway station (once referred to as East Warwick) in southern Queensland.

Although the station building and goods sheds still survive, a significant amount of the Warwick railway yard has been lost. Gone are the signal cabins, signals, and many of the sidings. What is left here is only a shadow of yesteryear.

Hope you enjoy :)

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/81/p1270039vl9.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1843/p1270043ni9.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3394/p1270051bc9.jpg

Looking south - Stanthorpe bound
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5294/p1270046mz5.jpg

Looking north - Toowoomba bound
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4926/p1270045sa0.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5302/p1270068fi0.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5076/p1270070tx1.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9826/p1270069oy2.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3466/p1270054lx7.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3599/p1270073az1.jpg

QR National freight centre at Warwick
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/375/p1270064nn4.jpg

Warwick's old locomotive depot (roundhouse) and turntable is now home of the Southern Downs Steam Railway
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2427/p1270065lj2.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/291/p1270049wg6.jpg

For more info on Warwick railway station and the Southern Downs (railway) district: Southern Downs Steam Railway (http://www.southerndownssteamrailway.com.au/index.php)