RANK MSA 2004

1 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 5700256
2 Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Miami Beach, FL 5361723
3 Houston-Baytown-Sugar Land, TX 5180443
4 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA 4708297
5 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL 2587967
6 Orlando, FL 1861707
7 San Antonio, TX 1854050
8 Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC 1644250
9 Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, NC-SC 1474734
10 Austin-Round Rock, TX 1412271
11 Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro, TN 1395879
12 New Orleans-Metairie-Kenner, LA 1319589
13 Memphis, TN-MS-AR 1250293
14 Jacksonville, FL 1225381
15 Louisville, KY-IN 1200847
16 Richmond, VA 1154317
17 Oklahoma City, OK 1144327
18 Birmingham-Hoover, AL 1082193
19 Raleigh-Cary, NC 914680
20 Tulsa, OK 881815
21 Baton Rouge, LA 728731
22 El Paso, TX 713126
23 Columbia, SC 679456
24 Greensboro-High Point, NC 667542
25 McAllen-Edinburg-Pharr, TX 658248
26 Sarasota-Bradenton-Venice, FL 651862
27 Knoxville, TN 647170
28 Little Rock-North Little Rock, AR 636636
29 Greenville, SC 583867
30 Charleston-North Charleston, SC 583434
31 Lakeland-Winter Haven, FL 524389
32 Palm Bay-Melbourne-Titusville, FL 519387
33 Jackson, MS 517275
34 Augusta-Richmond County, GA-SC 515314
35 Cape Coral-Fort Myers, FL 514295
36 Chattanooga, TN-GA 489609
37 Deltona-Daytona Beach-Ormond Beach, FL 478670
38 Durham, NC 451212
39 Winston-Salem, NC 441607
40 Pensacola-Ferry Pass-Brent, FL 437135
41 Lexington-Fayette, KY 424661
42 Corpus Christi, TX 409741
43 Mobile, AL 400526
44 Fayetteville-Springdale-Rogers, AR-MO 390881
45 Asheville, NC 387248
46 Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX 383443
47 Shreveport-Bossier City, LA 381817
48 Brownsville-Harlingen, TX 371825
49 Port St. Lucie-Fort Pierce, FL 364772
50 Huntsville, AL 362459
51 Montgomery, AL 355181
52 Hickory-Morganton-Lenoir, NC 352734
53 Fayetteville, NC 347751
54 Killeen-Temple-Fort Hood, TX 346116
55 Tallahassee, FL 331655
56 Savannah, GA 310714
57 Charleston, WV 307763
58 Wilmington, NC 303246
59 Naples-Marco Island, FL 296678
60 Ocala, FL 291322
61 Roanoke, VA 291135
62 Huntington-Ashland, WV-KY-OH 287038
63 Fort Smith, AR-OK 282167
64 Columbus, GA-AL 279518
65 Spartanburg, SC 264230
66 Lubbock, TX 257663
67 Gulfport-Biloxi, MS 252771
68 Lafayette, LA 246160
69 Gainesville, FL 239114
70 Clarksville, TN-KY 238897
71 Amarillo, TX 236113
72 Lynchburg, VA 232538
73 Kingsport-Bristol, TN-VA 231331
74 Macon, GA 228170
75 Waco, TX 222439
76 Laredo, TX 219464
77 Myrtle Beach-Conway-North Myrtle Beach, SC 217608
78 Longview, TX 200405
79 Houma-Bayou Cane-Thibodaux, LA 198680
80 Florence, SC 197256
81 Tuscaloosa, AL 195125
82 Lake Charles, LA 194642
83 College Station-Bryan, TX 189468
84 Johnson City, TN 187321
85 Tyler, TX 186414
86 Fort Walton Beach-Crestview-Destin, FL 181460
87 Charlottesville, VA 180901
88 Athens-Clarke County, GA 173760
89 Anderson, SC 173550
90 Monroe, LA 171249
91 Parkersburg-Marietta, WV-OH 162953
92 Albany, GA 162800
93 Gainesville, GA 160925
94 Greenville, NC 160806
95 Abilene, TX 158515
96 Panama City-Lynn Haven, FL 157949
97 Punta Gorda, FL 157134
98 Hilton Head Island-Beaufort, SC 156918
99 Daphne-Fairhope, AL 156701
100 Pascagoula, MS 156274
101 Jacksonville, NC 154297
102 Lexington-Thomasville, NC 153775
103 Blacksburg-Christiansburg-Radford, VA 150870
104 Wheeling, WV-OH 149498
105 Wichita Falls, TX 147826
106 Decatur, AL 147629
107 Alexandria, LA 147152
108 Rocky Mount, NC 145423
109 Florence, AL 142339
110 Burlington, NC 138462
111 Statesville-Mooresville, NC 136924
112 Dothan, AL 135245
113 Salisbury, NC 134317
114 Texarkana, TX-Texarkana, AR 132716
115 Homosassa Springs, FL 130465
116 Dalton, GA 130017
117 Hattiesburg, MS 129967
118 Tupelo, MS 129511
119 Morristown, TN 129010
120 Weirton-Steubenville, WV-OH 127712
121 Lumberton, NC 126469
122 Odessa, TX 124488
123 Vero Beach, FL 124114
124 Warner Robins, GA 123753
125 Valdosta, GA 123718
126 Auburn-Opelika, AL 120714
127 Midland, TX 120344
128 Sherman-Denison, TX 115933
129 New Bern, NC 114817
130 Goldsboro, NC 114245
131 Morgantown, WV 113774
132 Victoria, TX 113450
133 Staunton-Waynesboro, VA 113369
134 Winchester, VA-WV 112932
135 Anniston-Oxford, AL 112425
136 Jonesboro, AR 111530
137 Harrisonburg, VA 111284
138 Owensboro, KY 111028
149 Lawton, OK 110514
140 Jackson, TN 110170
141 Elizabethtown, KY 109551
142 Bowling Green, KY 109089
143 Danville, VA 108123
144 Cleveland, TN 107237
145 Bluefield, WV-VA 106823
146 Sumter, SC 105943
147 Pine Bluff, AR 105866
148 San Angelo, TX 105510
149 Meridian, MS 105421
150 Hammond, LA 105158
151 Gadsden, AL 103250
152 Dunn, NC 101542

intersting, but what's the source and criteria?

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intersting, but what's the source and criteria?

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U.S. Census Bureau 2004 county population estimates matched against new MSA designations.

Includes Metroplitan and Micropolitan areas. Metro areas contain a centralized urban area over 50,000. Micro areas contain a centralized urban cluster of between 10,000 and 50,000.

Source for 2004 County population estimates:

http://www.census.gov/popest/counties/CO-EST2004-01.html

Source of Metro and Micro Area definitions and components:

http://www.census.gov/population/www/estimates/metrodef.html

coolness, thanks. so this was the study i read about a few months ago that had Knoxville's MSA shrinking, b/c Sevierville broke off.

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coolness, thanks. so this was the study i read about a few months ago that had Knoxville's MSA shrinking, b/c Sevierville broke off.

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No - b/c the county estimates are provided by the Census every year in April. When the population estimates come in then it is just a matter of plugging them into MSA / CSA definitions.

Interesting. I never noticed that Tampa was so high up.

Is Orlando's growth slowing down. Looks like San Antonio closed the gap. I thought Orlando was much higher than them and was widening the gap. I also thought Orlando would be over 2 million by now.

Anyone have a list of MSA rankings for all the cities in the US (using the 2004 estimates)?

This list is pretty accurate, IMO. Miami-Ft.Lauderdale must also include Palm Beach County, otherwise it would be about 4 million.

That whole I-4 corridor between Tampa through Orlando to Daytona Beach is one of the fastest growing areas in the country. It's got a lot of young people that live along it, which is much different to other more older areas of Florida.

Holy Sh!!t. I just realized that Greensboro, NC and High Point are listed as a different MSA than Winston-Salem!! A certain forumer from Winston-Salem is going to go crazy. I mean crazier!!

Anyone have a list of MSA rankings for all the cities in the US (using the 2004 estimates)?

Look here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=202126

Holy Sh!!t. I just realized that Greensboro, NC and High Point are listed as a different MSA than Winston-Salem!! A certain forumer from Winston-Salem is going to go crazy. I mean crazier!!

LOL!

just curious though - why is Sandy Springs listed when it isnt incorporated?

Look here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=202126


Thanks... looks like using the CMSA numbers Birmingham is 37th. I believe in 2003, Birmingham was around 48th in MSAs, so I was wondering wonder how much Birmingham moved up in the rankings (if at all) since our MSA grew from 2003 to 2004, but apparently we didnt move up.

LOL!

just curious though - why is Sandy Springs listed when it isnt incorporated?

The Office of Budget & Management counts census designated areas.

Also note concerning the MSA & CSA lists - I have neglected to update them from the November 2004 listing, mine are from the original 2003 criteria. For example, Greenville & Spartanburg are again merged, at least as a consolidated metro.

Shouldn't census statistics use defined census divisions?

IOW, where is Washington and Baltimore?

The DC-Balt. area is considered northeast.

The DC-Balt. area is considered northeast.

That's some trick, when the Census Bureau considers Maryland, Delaware and the District of Columbia as part of the South...

Actually it's south by the census, South Atlantic more specifically, but on here, I consider it geographically the south, but I like Mid-Atlantic the best. Geographically DC, N. VA is the center of the eastern seaboard.

LOL!

just curious though - why is Sandy Springs listed when it isnt incorporated?

They seem to just list two random areas in metro Atlanta besides the City of Atlanta. My best guess as to why they chose Sandy Springs and the City of Marietta is because they have a large population. The city of Marietta is about 50,000 and Sandy Springs (which will probably become an incorporated city this year) has a population of 85,000. Don't ask me why they didn't list the City of Decatur, which also has a sizeable population.

^ Because Sandy Springs is regarded as a satelitte city & not just a suburb. This merely indicates the splintering of Atlanta's metro, similar to nationwide patterns - it is not primary city based as it once was.

Texas

1 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 5700256
3 Houston-Baytown-Sugar Land, TX 5180443
7 San Antonio, TX 1854050
10 Austin-Round Rock, TX 1412271
22 El Paso, TX 713126
25 McAllen-Edinburg-Pharr, TX 658248
42 Corpus Christi, TX 409741
46 Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX 383443
48 Brownsville-Harlingen, TX 371825
54 Killeen-Temple-Fort Hood, TX 346116
66 Lubbock, TX 257663
71 Amarillo, TX 236113
75 Waco, TX 222439
76 Laredo, TX 219464
78 Longview, TX 200405
83 College Station-Bryan, TX 189468
85 Tyler, TX 186414
95 Abilene, TX 158515
105 Wichita Falls, TX 147826
114 Texarkana, TX-Texarkana, AR 132716
122 Odessa, TX 124488
127 Midland, TX 120344
128 Sherman-Denison, TX 115933
132 Victoria, TX 113450
148 San Angelo, TX 105510

I bet Austin will pass up San Antonio... Because, the only reason SA passed up Dallas in city population is because they annexed. Which is weird, because when you reach the city limits of San Antonio, I-10 is still a 4-lane "road" with a grass median. There really nothing till you reach Houston St., unless you count the gas stations that appear every so often. But I bet Austin will pass up SA's metro later on down the line.

FYI - the MSA / CSA definitions were updated last year, so it's possible there are some errors.

I updated the metro areas - so feel free to view them now.

Additionally, here is a quick map of population growth from 2003 to 2004 for southeastern counties (sorry the map is so big - but how else are you goint to view it?):

http://www.oliviadrab.com/bradblog/Southeast_County20042003Growth.jpg

Additionally - I am adding a ranking of metro / micro / consolidated areas as well. Please consider that these metro areas are based on their spatial location - that is, if they overlap over any southern state, they are included. If you don't like it - make your own list :)

RANK METRO TYPE 2004
1 Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD- CSA 8026807
2 Dallas-Fort Worth, TX CSA 5931956
3 Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Miami Beach METRO-SA 5361723
4 Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX CSA 5280752
5 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL CSA 5034362
6 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, METRO-SA 2587967
7 Cincinnati-Middletown-Wilmington, OH-KY-IN CSA 2100501
8 Charlotte-Gastonia-Salisbury, NC-SC CSA 2067810
9 Orlando-The Villages, FL CSA 1922412
10 San Antonio, TX METRO-SA 1854050
11 Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport Ne METRO-SA 1644250
12 Greensboro--Winston-Salem--High Point, NC CSA 1473679
13 Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro--Columbia, TN CSA 1470571
14 Raleigh-Durham-Cary, NC CSA 1467434
15 Austin-Round Rock, TX METRO-SA 1412271
16 New Orleans-Metairie-Bogalusa, LA CSA 1363750
17 Louisville-Elizabethtown-Scottsburg, KY-IN CSA 1334002
18 Memphis, TN-MS-AR METRO-SA 1250293
19 Jacksonville, FL METRO-SA 1225381
20 Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson, SC CSA 1173348
21 Birmingham-Hoover-Cullman, AL CSA 1161382
22 Richmond, VA METRO-SA 1154317
23 Knoxville-Sevierville-La Follette, TN CSA 817867
24 Little Rock-North Little Rock-Pine Bluff, AR CSA 813160
25 Baton Rouge-Pierre Part, LA CSA 751965
26 Columbia-Newberry, SC CSA 716665
27 El Paso, TX METRO-SA 713126
28 McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX METRO-SA 658248
29 Sarasota-Bradenton-Venice, FL METRO-SA 651862
30 Chattanooga-Cleveland-Athens, TN-GA CSA 647827
31 Lexington-Fayette--Frankfort--Richmond, KY CSA 627825
32 Charleston-North Charleston, SC METRO-SA 583434
33 Mobile-Daphne-Fairhope, AL CSA 557227
34 Deltona-Daytona Beach-Palm Coast, FL CSA 547675
35 Jackson-Yazoo City, MS CSA 545486
36 Lakeland, FL METRO-SA 524389
37 Lafayette-Acadiana, LA CSA 524163
38 Palm Bay-Melbourne-Titusville, FL METRO-SA 519387
39 Augusta-Richmond County, GA-SC METRO-SA 515314
40 Cape Coral-Fort Myers, FL METRO-SA 514295
41 Huntsville-Decatur, AL CSA 510088
42 Johnson City-Kingsport-Bristol (Tri-Cities), T CSA 487990
43 Corpus Christi-Kingsville, TX CSA 441505
44 Pensacola-Ferry Pass-Brent, FL METRO-SA 437135
45 Columbus-Auburn-Opelika, GA-AL CSA 423411
46 Shreveport-Bossier City-Minden, LA CSA 423071
47 Asheville-Brevard, NC CSA 416773
48 Gulfport-Biloxi-Pascagoula, MS CSA 409045
49 Montgomery-Alexander City, AL CSA 407410
50 Brownsville-Harlingen-Raymondville, TX CSA 392056
51 Fayetteville-Springdale-Rogers, A METRO-SA 390881
52 Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX METRO-SA 383443
53 Savannah-Hinesville-Fort Stewart, GA CSA 383390
54 Macon-Warner Robins-Fort Valley, GA CSA 376588
55 Port St. Lucie-Fort Pierce, FL METRO-SA 364772
56 Hickory-Lenoir-Morganton, NC METRO-SA 352734
57 Evansville, IN-KY METRO-SA 348454
58 Fayetteville, NC METRO-SA 347751
59 Killeen-Temple-Fort Hood, TX METRO-SA 346116
60 Tallahassee, FL METRO-SA 331655
61 Wilmington, NC METRO-SA 303246
62 Naples-Marco Island, FL METRO-SA 296678
63 Ocala, FL METRO-SA 291322
64 Roanoke, VA METRO-SA 291135
65 Huntington-Ashland, WV-KY-OH METRO-SA 287038
66 Fort Smith, AR-OK METRO-SA 282167
67 Lubbock-Levelland, TX CSA 280444
68 Myrtle Beach-Conway-Georgetown, SC CSA 277398
69 Longview-Marshall, TX CSA 263132
70 Midland-Odessa, TX CSA 244832
71 Hagerstown-Martinsburg, MD-WV METRO-SA 244796
72 Gainesville, FL METRO-SA 239114
73 Clarksville, TN-KY METRO-SA 238897
74 Amarillo, TX METRO-SA 236113
75 Tyler-Jacksonville, TX CSA 234505
76 Lynchburg, VA METRO-SA 232538
77 Dothan-Enterprise-Ozark, AL CSA 229408
78 Lake Charles-Jennings, LA CSA 225877
79 Waco, TX METRO-SA 222439
80 Laredo, TX METRO-SA 219464
81 Monroe-Bastrop, LA CSA 201800
82 Houma-Bayou Cane-Thibodaux, LA METRO-SA 198680
83 Florence, SC METRO-SA 197256
84 Tuscaloosa, AL METRO-SA 195125
85 College Station-Bryan, TX METRO-SA 189468
86 Las Cruces, NM METRO-SA 186095
87 Fort Walton Beach-Crestview-Desti METRO-SA 181460
88 Charlottesville, VA METRO-SA 180901
89 Athens-Clarke County, GA METRO-SA 173760
90 Morristown-Newport, TN CSA 163685
91 Salisbury-Ocean Pines, MD CSA 163619
92 Albany, GA METRO-SA 162800
93 Lumberton-Laurinburg, NC CSA 162699
94 Greenville, NC METRO-SA 160806
95 Abilene, TX METRO-SA 158515
96 Jackson-Humboldt, TN CSA 158294
97 Panama City-Lynn Haven, FL METRO-SA 157949
98 Punta Gorda, FL METRO-SA 157134
99 Hilton Head Island-Beaufort, SC MICRO-SA 156918
100 Jacksonville, NC METRO-SA 154297
101 Blacksburg-Christiansburg-Radford METRO-SA 150870
102 Wichita Falls, TX METRO-SA 147826
103 Alexandria, LA METRO-SA 147152
104 Rocky Mount, NC METRO-SA 145423
105 Florence-Muscle Shoals, AL METRO-SA 142339
106 Paducah-Mayfield, KY-IL CSA 135441
107 Cape Girardeau-Sikeston-Jackson, MO-IL CSA 133153
108 Texarkana, TX-Texarkana, AR METRO-SA 132716
109 Homosassa Springs, FL MICRO-SA 130465
110 Dalton, GA METRO-SA 130017
111 Hattiesburg, MS METRO-SA 129967
112 Tupelo, MS MICRO-SA 129511
113 Vero Beach, FL METRO-SA 124114
114 Valdosta, GA METRO-SA 123718
115 Sherman-Denison, TX METRO-SA 115933
116 New Bern, NC MICRO-SA 114817
117 Goldsboro, NC METRO-SA 114245
118 Victoria, TX METRO-SA 113450
119 Staunton-Waynesboro, VA MICRO-SA 113369
120 Anniston-Oxford, AL METRO-SA 112425
121 Jonesboro, AR METRO-SA 111530
122 Harrisonburg, VA METRO-SA 111284
123 Owensboro, KY METRO-SA 111028
124 Bowling Green, KY METRO-SA 109089
125 Danville, VA METRO-SA 108123
126 Bluefield, WV-VA MICRO-SA 106823
127 Sumter, SC METRO-SA 105943
128 San Angelo, TX METRO-SA 105510
129 Meridian, MS MICRO-SA 105421
130 Hammond, LA MICRO-SA 105158
131 Gadsden, AL METRO-SA 103250
132 Brunswick, GA METRO-SA 98037
133 Cookeville, TN MICRO-SA 97528
134 Tullahoma, TN MICRO-SA 96852
135 Rome, GA METRO-SA 94009
136 Corbin-London, KY CSA 93559
137 Sebring, FL MICRO-SA 93127
138 Hot Springs, AR METRO-SA 92141
139 Orangeburg, SC MICRO-SA 90779
140 Albertville, AL MICRO-SA 84781
141 Laurel, MS MICRO-SA 83667
142 Fort Polk South-De Ridder, LA CSA 83639
143 Columbus-West Point, MS CSA 82137
144 Lufkin, TX MICRO-SA 81492
145 Talladega-Sylacauga, AL MICRO-SA 80277
146 Southern Pines-Pinehurst, NC MICRO-SA 80026
147 Key West-Marathon, FL MICRO-SA 78284
148 Roanoke Rapids, NC MICRO-SA 77658
149 Russellville, AR MICRO-SA 77251
150 Portsmouth, OH MICRO-SA 77046
151 Wilson, NC MICRO-SA 76091
152 Union City-Martin, TN-KY CSA 73483
153 Branson, MO MICRO-SA 72659
154 Palatka, FL MICRO-SA 72511
155 Martinsville, VA MICRO-SA 71979
156 Greenwood, SC MICRO-SA 67519
157 North Wilkesboro, NC MICRO-SA 67095
158 Fort Payne, AL MICRO-SA 66935
159 Greeneville, TN MICRO-SA 64718
160 Clovis-Portales, NM CSA 63827
161 Forest City, NC MICRO-SA 63570
162 Alamogordo, NM MICRO-SA 63282
163 Morehead City, NC MICRO-SA 62034
164 Lake City, FL MICRO-SA 61889
165 Statesboro, GA MICRO-SA 60344
166 Nacogdoches, TX MICRO-SA 60249
167 Rio Grande City-Roma, TX MICRO-SA 59832
168 Greenville, MS MICRO-SA 59567
169 Somerset, KY MICRO-SA 58727
170 Kinston, NC MICRO-SA 58424
171 Ruston, LA MICRO-SA 57660
172 Elizabeth City, NC MICRO-SA 57005
173 Dublin, GA MICRO-SA 56294
174 Hobbs, NM MICRO-SA 56231
175 Ardmore, OK MICRO-SA 56220
176 Palestine, TX MICRO-SA 56117
177 Milledgeville, GA MICRO-SA 55018
178 Scottsboro, AL MICRO-SA 53821
179 Danville, KY MICRO-SA 53062
180 McComb, MS MICRO-SA 52678
181 Waycross, GA MICRO-SA 52335
182 Natchez, MS-LA MICRO-SA 52315
183 Morgan City, LA MICRO-SA 52189
184 Picayune, MS MICRO-SA 51835
185 Carlsbad-Artesia, NM MICRO-SA 51688
186 Eagle Pass, TX MICRO-SA 50436
187 Crossville, TN MICRO-SA 50084
188 Paris, TX MICRO-SA 49710
189 Glasgow, KY MICRO-SA 49638
190 Sanford, NC MICRO-SA 49162
191 Vicksburg, MS MICRO-SA 49113
192 Calhoun, GA MICRO-SA 49077
193 Blytheville, AR MICRO-SA 48485
194 Corsicana, TX MICRO-SA 48243
195 Del Rio, TX MICRO-SA 47410
196 Douglas, GA MICRO-SA 47390
197 Madisonville, KY MICRO-SA 46818
198 Greenwood, MS MICRO-SA 46663
199 Rockingham, NC MICRO-SA 46648
200 Washington, NC MICRO-SA 45794
201 Kerrville, TX MICRO-SA 45675
202 St. Marys, GA MICRO-SA 45108
203 Selma, AL MICRO-SA 44884
204 El Dorado, AR MICRO-SA 44595
205 Thomasville, GA MICRO-SA 43989
206 Henderson, NC MICRO-SA 43774
207 Moultrie, GA MICRO-SA 43763
208 Harrison, AR MICRO-SA 43737
209 Boone, NC MICRO-SA 42457
210 El Campo, TX MICRO-SA 41594
211 Starkville, MS MICRO-SA 41309
212 Shelbyville, TN MICRO-SA 41233
213 Poplar Bluff, MO MICRO-SA 40989
214 Lawrenceburg, TN MICRO-SA 40864
215 Alice, TX MICRO-SA 40807
216 Oxford, MS MICRO-SA 40745
217 Tifton, GA MICRO-SA 40178
218 Mountain Home, AR MICRO-SA 39827
219 Walterboro, SC MICRO-SA 39595
220 McMinnville, TN MICRO-SA 39559
221 Okeechobee, FL MICRO-SA 38988
222 Cornelia, GA MICRO-SA 38978
223 Paragould, AR MICRO-SA 38975
224 Cleveland, MS MICRO-SA 38928
225 Natchitoches, LA MICRO-SA 38741
226 Brownwood, TX MICRO-SA 38183
227 Clewiston, FL MICRO-SA 38163
228 West Plains, MO MICRO-SA 37995
229 Durant, OK MICRO-SA 37758
230 Dyersburg, TN MICRO-SA 37621
231 Americus, GA MICRO-SA 36914
232 Plainview, TX MICRO-SA 36029
233 Vidalia, GA MICRO-SA 35745
234 Corinth, MS MICRO-SA 35230
235 Arcadia, FL MICRO-SA 34892
236 Murray, KY MICRO-SA 34789
237 Batesville, AR MICRO-SA 34648
238 Stephenville, TX MICRO-SA 33704
239 Brookhaven, MS MICRO-SA 33701
240 Kill Devil Hills, NC MICRO-SA 33518
241 Indianola, MS MICRO-SA 33392
242 Sulphur Springs, TX MICRO-SA 33201
243 Hope, AR MICRO-SA 33089
244 Beeville, TX MICRO-SA 33046
245 Camden, AR MICRO-SA 32900
246 Big Spring, TX MICRO-SA 32879
247 Kennett, MO MICRO-SA 32488
248 Madison, IN MICRO-SA 32110
249 Central City, KY MICRO-SA 31752
250 Paris, TN MICRO-SA 31506
251 Dillon, SC MICRO-SA 31289
252 Brenham, TX MICRO-SA 31248
253 Eufaula, AL-GA MICRO-SA 31024
254 Maysville, KY MICRO-SA 30757
255 Middlesborough, KY MICRO-SA 29672
256 Troy, AL MICRO-SA 29396
257 Mount Pleasant, TX MICRO-SA 29224
258 Clarksdale, MS MICRO-SA 29202
259 Bainbridge, GA MICRO-SA 28615
260 Forrest City, AR MICRO-SA 28225
261 Jesup, GA MICRO-SA 28198
262 Bennettsville, SC MICRO-SA 28147
263 Lewisburg, TN MICRO-SA 27991
264 Wauchula, FL MICRO-SA 27987
265 Fitzgerald, GA MICRO-SA 27279
266 Altus, OK MICRO-SA 27182
267 Uvalde, TX MICRO-SA 26616
268 Summerville, GA MICRO-SA 26554
269 Toccoa, GA MICRO-SA 24988
270 Magnolia, AR MICRO-SA 24751
271 West Helena, AR MICRO-SA 24309
272 Campbellsville, KY MICRO-SA 23479
273 Arkadelphia, AR MICRO-SA 23105
274 Grenada, MS MICRO-SA 22736
275 Borger, TX MICRO-SA 22617
276 Pampa, TX MICRO-SA 22272
277 Cordele, GA MICRO-SA 22028
278 Dumas, TX MICRO-SA 20333
279 Guymon, OK MICRO-SA 20296
280 Brownsville, TN MICRO-SA 19614
281 Elk City, OK MICRO-SA 19347
282 Hereford, TX MICRO-SA 18510
283 Snyder, TX MICRO-SA 16084
284 Sweetwater, TX MICRO-SA 15129
285 Lamesa, TX MICRO-SA 14383
286 Vernon, TX MICRO-SA 14184
287 Tallulah, LA MICRO-SA 12996
288 Andrews, TX MICRO-SA 12840
289 Pecos, TX MICRO-SA 11842

that map is very cool, brad. i must say that its sad to see union county be killed by total sprawl. its also intersting to see south atlanta counties grow.

And another map of the southeast - MSA & CSA growth from 2000 to 2004:

http://www.oliviadrab.com/bradblog/MetroGrowth2004SE.jpg

that map is very cool, brad. i must say that its sad to see union county be killed by total sprawl. its also intersting to see south atlanta counties grow.

Yup, Henry and Walton(I think) to the southeast of Atlanta, Paulding to the west and of course Forsyth to the north. Carrol county, just south of I-20, on the Alabama border will be the next fast growing county, because a developer announced a few weeks ago a project to build a little subdivision with 18,000 houses in it. :eek2:

18,000 ?! what! that's a city. not a 'subdivison' ! i'd be funny if there was on access road on all of that. i'd laugh. though , that wont happen... i'd still be funny to see momey sit in her denali.

Brad, are you going to be doing your own census in 2010?

Heh, I appreciate it Nick - but all I'm doing is plugging census data into GIS software. If it's in a usable format, it's pretty easy from there. But I actually worked for the census before - in 1990.

Thanks for all the information Brad. Very interesting. :okay:

And another map of the southeast - MSA & CSA growth from 2000 to 2004:

http://www.oliviadrab.com/bradblog/MetroGrowth2004SE.jpg

I really don't get this map b/c the one before it shows that just about every county surrounding Louisville is growing at a fast enough pace that's they're high lighted in yellow (which is one of the most colored metro's on that map) so why on this one it's only highlighted in lightgreen, when the only 2 counties in Nashville are are highlighted in yellow on the first map but they're entire metro is highlighted in yellow.

^ Not a bad question, at least much nicer in tone than some folks at SSP, thanks :)

Because those two counties in Nashville MSA/CSA are very popolous, so a high growth rate for those equates to a large population. Those KY & IN counties are generally low in population, so the additional population is minimal. Also, non-popolous counties, despite their growth rate, will be overwhelmed by the more popolous counties, with often a lower growth rate.

So do you know how many people live in those Nashville counties?

^ Yeah, I would have had to - I used the Census estimates to summarize the metro population.

That's why I'm talking about look at the Raleigh/Durham Metro, and Wilmington. Take that. North Carolina is that state. Weve got it all. Fast Growing Cities, The Beaches and the Mountains. I don't think I'll ever move away. What for? That's why half my neighbors are from newyork or philly or boston. They have seen the light. :)

Raleigh-Cary, what the hell is that? Isn't it Raleigh-Durham? Durham has it's own Metro area now? That's ridiculous. I hate The Triangle more anyone else, but that is a very low estimate for Raleigh.

^^ lol i was just thinking the exact same thing

So do you know how many people live in those Nashville counties?


Rutherford County has a population of 210,025 and is growing at 15.4%

Williamson has a population of 146,935 and is growing at 16.0%

Sumner has a population of 141,611 and is growing at 8.6%

Wilson has a population of 97,891 and is growing at 10.2%

Nashville has a few very populous counties that are posting high growth rates and therefore the MSA is growing very quickly even if the individual county totals don't look as good. Louisville's suburban counties are much smaller than Nashville's.

Looking at those numbers thebrad posted a couple months ago which i just stared at for a good 5 minutes lol. You can see huge gaps between the cities
1. DC







2. Dallas
3. Miami
4. Houston
5. Atlanta








6-22. Tampa to Richmond
I believe Dallas could possible pull away from Miami, Houston and Atlanta.

^ I have some seen some 20 - 30 year estimates which Dallas - Ft Worth pulls out ahead of Houston considerably.

interesting....some dont seem riight

Rutherford County has a population of 210,025 and is growing at 15.4%

Williamson has a population of 146,935 and is growing at 16.0%

Sumner has a population of 141,611 and is growing at 8.6%

Wilson has a population of 97,891 and is growing at 10.2%

Nashville has a few very populous counties that are posting high growth rates and therefore the MSA is growing very quickly even if the individual county totals don't look as good. Louisville's suburban counties are much smaller than Nashville's.

Isn't the actual county that Nashville is in, Davidson, actually going down in population? Pretty sure that is what the 03 and 04 estimates show.

Isn't the actual county that Nashville is in, Davidson, actually going down in population? Pretty sure that is what the 03 and 04 estimates show.

Nashville/Davidson County is estimated by the census to have posted <1% growth between 2000 and 2004. The City contests this estimate based on their own figures. It is highly unlikely Nashville went from a 12% growth rate between 1990 and 2000 to such a slow one now. During the 90s, the census also predicted Nashville/Davidson to lose population and it did not.

^ I have some seen some 20 - 30 year estimates which Dallas - Ft Worth pulls out ahead of Houston considerably.


Hey Brad..if you get time, I'd love to see some of the above estimates you mentioned. I know too many friends/family from Houston that steadfastly refuse to believe that the DFW metro area is a bit larger and growing faster every year.

Hey Brad..if you get time, I'd love to see some of the above estimates you mentioned. I know too many friends/family from Houston that steadfastly refuse to believe that the DFW metro area is a bit larger and growing faster every year.

I seen those same estimates that he is talking about. I'll try to find them but I remember seeing DFW close to 10 million and Houston just over 7.

Texas

1 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 5700256
3 Houston-Baytown-Sugar Land, TX 5180443
7 San Antonio, TX 1854050
10 Austin-Round Rock, TX 1412271
22 El Paso, TX 713126
25 McAllen-Edinburg-Pharr, TX 658248
42 Corpus Christi, TX 409741
46 Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX 383443
48 Brownsville-Harlingen, TX 371825
54 Killeen-Temple-Fort Hood, TX 346116
66 Lubbock, TX 257663
71 Amarillo, TX 236113
75 Waco, TX 222439
76 Laredo, TX 219464
78 Longview, TX 200405
83 College Station-Bryan, TX 189468
85 Tyler, TX 186414
95 Abilene, TX 158515
105 Wichita Falls, TX 147826
114 Texarkana, TX-Texarkana, AR 132716
122 Odessa, TX 124488
127 Midland, TX 120344
128 Sherman-Denison, TX 115933
132 Victoria, TX 113450
148 San Angelo, TX 105510

I bet Austin will pass up San Antonio... Because, the only reason SA passed up Dallas in city population is because they annexed. Which is weird, because when you reach the city limits of San Antonio, I-10 is still a 4-lane "road" with a grass median. There really nothing till you reach Houston St., unless you count the gas stations that appear every so often. But I bet Austin will pass up SA's metro later on down the line.


You really think Austin will become larger then San Antonio? I mean just like stated I think back on first page people thought Orlando was gonna pull far ahead of San Antonio and look at it now. Its hard to predict what will happen, Austin is in a kind of boom right now. But sometime that will come to an end. As to your comments the land we annexed was mostly Rural "85%". I think we only added at most 75,000 "if that" to population, if you like ill dig up the figures.