Has everybody visited this website?

Shows some really good photographs from the 1880's to the 1960's. One of my favourite Liverpool websites. :)


www.20thcenturyimages.co.uk

Has everybody visited this website?

Shows some really good photographs from the 1880's to the 1960's. One of my favourite Liverpool websites. :)


www.20thcenturyimages.co.uk

Dicky, what a fantastic site.

I've sent it on to my dad, he'll love it.

Yea, great site.

That first picture (assuming it doesn't change regularly), is Shaw street opposite the Everton lockup, and on that note, are the currently crumbling Georgian terraces on Shaw street going to be left to Rot, or are they to be done up similar to the terrace near the Collegiate.

Brilliant site,well worth a look :cheers:

Came across this website, although not Victorian I think they are brilliant pics!!

London Road

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6259/londonrd14pg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Old Hall St, St Pauls Eye Hospital is at the top left side.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5347/oldhallst12ll.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Pall Mall, Exchange Station is on the left.

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4711/pallmall13ri.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


South John Street.

http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/671/southjohnst15ff.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Water Street.

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4994/waterst14mb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8558/waterst26zr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://www.oldclitheroe.co.uk/index3.htm

Brilliant pics, Doug, love the last one , trams and the Knife sharpener man pushing his grinding wheel, in Water St.

Brilliant pics, Doug, love the last one , trams and the Knife sharpener man pushing his grinding wheel, in Water St.


... I thought it was Mike Storey carting all the stuff out of his desk...

:jk:

There was a great article in yesterday's mail about plans to put online over 180 tons of pics, posters etc from the National Railway Museums archives.

will eventually be on http://www.nrm.org.uk

Supposedly loads of stuff about Liverpool too.

Happy New Year to all, both active and lurking.

Adelphi Hotel, 1870.


http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/6185/adelphihotel5mw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Not Victorian but great anyway, both pictures from the DP.

Woodside in the 1930's, they knew all about 'transport interchanges' then.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5453/woodside1930snh8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Liverpool September 1939.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6227/waterstsept1939vl0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Imagine if Liverpool hadnt been bombed the hell out of ggrrrr

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5453/woodside1930snh8.jpg

There's so much nostalgia in that photo. The old 'Ferry to Liverpool' sign, trams, the Custom House, what looks like a paddle steamer on the Mersey, Woodside Station (the closest the GWR got to Liverpool), the vintage cars and a charabanc.

Does anyone know what that building was on the extreme left of the photo (Birkenhead side)?

Looks like a bog standard warehouse or something Martin. Or do you mean the bit that looks like a covered terace? :?

Is it just me, or does the Albert Dock clock tower appear to be standing, just to the right of the Custom House?

Looks like a bog standard warehouse or something Martin. Or do you mean the bit that looks like a covered terace? :?

Is it just me, or does the Albert Dock clock tower appear to be standing, just to the right of the Custom House?

Think your right Bunny. The building I was thinking of is the one that looks like a covered terrace and must have been overlooking the old floating roadway cut.

I think the photo must have been taken in the very early 30s or earlier as you can't see the Georges Dock vent shaft behind the Port of Liverpool building (may just be the angle of the photograph).

If the photo was clearer, you might have been able to see the hydraulic tower over James Street station, (like the one at Hamilton Square), which was demolished after the blitz.

What happened to our fucking clock tower anyway??

Excuse my language like.

Does anyone know what that building was on the extreme left of the photo (Birkenhead side)?It's part of the former Woodside lairage/abattoir complex, Martin - built in 1879, in use until some time in the mid/late 70s and demolished to make way for the Woodside small business park in the early 90s.

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7905/pict0294x1mp6.jpg

^^ Every building below the transit sheds alongside Morpeth branch dock was apparently involved in the Irish Sea livestock trade for which Birkenhead became the leading UK port, having been helped by a decision to concentrate all of the Mersey's Irish livestock traffic in Birkenhead for ease of control reasons following a foot & mouth outbreak in Ireland in 1913. The green line highlights the old wooden livestock walkway which allowed transfer of animals between the dedicated 'Wallasey' livestock stage (actually sited where Twelve Quays is now rather than in Wallasey proper) and Woodside. It had to be elevated to enable sufficient clearance over the Morpeth river entrance which I guess would've made it Wirral's 'Overhead Walkway'. The photo also shows the livestock-dedicated north end of the Woodside stage and its high-sided linkspan which prevented animals from seeing the river whilst coming ashore and becoming distressed as a consequence.


I think Doug's pic does pre-date the Queensway Tunnel works, probably late 20s/early 30s: there's a 1960s photo in one of the Mersey ferries history books taken from almost exactly the same point in which the Georges Dock vent shaft is visible immediately to the right of the PoL Building's main dome so if it had been built at that time we should be able to see it. If a date of around 1930 is correct then what we're looking at is a scene depicting the absolute peak of the Woodside ferry service - the ten years 1926-35 saw an average annual passenger throughput at Woodside of 13.2 million, peaking at 14.1m in 1927, as well as an annual average of 900,000 assorted vehicles over the same period.

It's part of the former Woodside lairage/abattoir complex, Martin - built in 1879, in use until some time in the mid/late 70s and demolished to make way for the Woodside small business park in the early 90s..

In the mid 60`s I used to get the ferry to work , and you always knew when a Irish boat had docked , you could smell it: nuts: Also I remember a tannary along New Chester Rd , was part of the CL site that also stunk to high heaven

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5453/woodside1930snh8.jpg

There's so much nostalgia in that photo. The old 'Ferry to Liverpool' sign, trams, the Custom House, what looks like a paddle steamer on the Mersey, Woodside Station (the closest the GWR got to Liverpool), the vintage cars and a charabanc.

Does anyone know what that building was on the extreme left of the photo (Birkenhead side)?


You're right Martin this is full of Nostalgia. My Grandad was probably working in Woodside Station when that photo was taken.

Nice photos of Liverpool on that site.

It's part of the former Woodside lairage/abattoir complex, Martin - built in 1879, in use until some time in the mid/late 70s and demolished to make way for the Woodside small business park in the early 90s.

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7905/pict0294x1mp6.jpg

^^ Every building below the transit sheds alongside Morpeth branch dock was apparently involved in the Irish Sea livestock trade for which Birkenhead became the leading UK port, having been helped by a decision to concentrate all of the Mersey's Irish livestock traffic in Birkenhead for ease of control reasons following a foot & mouth outbreak in Ireland in 1913. The green line highlights the old wooden livestock walkway which allowed transfer of animals between the dedicated 'Wallasey' livestock stage (actually sited where Twelve Quays is now rather than in Wallasey proper) and Woodside. It had to be elevated to enable sufficient clearance over the Morpeth river entrance which I guess would've made it Wirral's 'Overhead Walkway'. The photo also shows the livestock-dedicated north end of the Woodside stage and its high-sided linkspan which prevented animals from seeing the river whilst coming ashore and becoming distressed as a consequence.


I think Doug's pic does pre-date the Queensway Tunnel works, probably late 20s/early 30s: there's a 1960s photo in one of the Mersey ferries history books taken from almost exactly the same point in which the Georges Dock vent shaft is visible immediately to the right of the PoL Building's main dome so if it had been built at that time we should be able to see it. If a date of around 1930 is correct then what we're looking at is a scene depicting the absolute peak of the Woodside ferry service - the ten years 1926-35 saw an average annual passenger throughput at Woodside of 13.2 million, peaking at 14.1m in 1927, as well as an annual average of 900,000 assorted vehicles over the same period.

Thanks very much Mersey O.

I used to go in Durandu's on the corner of Exchange St. East when I first worked in town, it was a tobacconist, the smell was just fantastic pipe tobaccos from all over the world were on sale along with the more usual fare, Woody's, Capstan Full Strength!!

To the left of Durandu's just a bit further up Exchange St. East was the Liverpool Stock Exchange, still trading up to the 60's, that may explain the sign on the corner second floor, I wonder if it was Bank of New York??


http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4577/dalest1908ni1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Loads of Liverpool Records office ones here. To link to other pages such as b&w post war pics, click on any picture which will take you back to the home page.


http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=44922707&cr=7


Enjoy.

Loads of Liverpool Records office ones here. To link to other pages such as b&w post war pics, click on any picture which will take you back to the home page.


http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=44922707&cr=7


Enjoy.

Enjoy is the word Ged..probably the best website out there for Old Liverpool Images..well done Sir..

One of my own Older pics and a now one of the same location.



http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/PIER%20HEAD%20AREA/LIVERGIFF.gif

Enjoy is the word Ged..probably the best website out there for Old Liverpool Images..well done Sir..

One of my own Older pics and a now one of the same location.



http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/PIER%20HEAD%20AREA/LIVERGIFF.gif

You used to be taller? :lol:

Good pics. Makes me realise just how radical the canal is. Doing that at the same time as L1 and everything else is incredible!

That's spectacular. There's even photos of George's dock, site of the Liver Building, with the building next door still under construction.

There is a great pic of Islington knocking around which just shows how much destruction took lace in the 60s'.

Fantastic Ged. I like that 'then and now' comparison bit of software you've got there. Hope one of the pages on your site will have lots of those, cracker that.

You used to be taller? :lol:

Good pics. Makes me realise just how radical the canal is. Doing that at the same time as L1 and everything else is incredible!



Thanks robin..we're all going nuts over L1 and how good it is,Imagine when its comlpete and you can walk around the park and the Canal area...Incredible is correct...cheers robin.

Fantastic Ged. I like that 'then and now' comparison bit of software you've got there. Hope one of the pages on your site will have lots of those, cracker that.


Thanks Ged....I hope to have lots of them little moving clips on my website of all over Liverpool..cheers mate.

Heres another Ged using my own pics,the quality of the modern day pic has been degraded somewhat due to the process it went through to make the moving sequence,I'm not the slightest bit bothered about that,the objective of these "Then and Now" shots is to show people just that,Liverpool "Then and Now"..I'm more than happy with the results and I think it will be a popular feature..with people of "Our" kind like..know warra mean Lad...:lol:


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/GIF%20MOVING%20IMAGES/strandgif.gif

It might look degraded to you, looks mighty fine to me, no need to make apologies for it mate, another good un'. I wonder what our Victorian forefathers would think of this progress, mind you the Liver wasn't even there back then was it. Anyway, i'm just copy and pasting your 'somewhat' comments (i've only ever heard gallery curators use words like that, not us Scottie roaders :) )

It might look degraded to you, looks mighty fine to me, no need to make apologies for it mate, another good un'. I wonder what our Victorian forefathers would think of this progress, mind you the Liver wasn't even there back then was it. Anyway, i'm just copy and pasting your 'somewhat' comments (i've only ever heard gallery curators use words like that, not us Scottie roaders :) )


"Somewhat" ??...me ??...Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I dropped my guard there..:omg:

Back to actin the goat eh lad..eh...eh..


Were your ears burnin' last Friday ?..I had a little slurp with Franny C in the Grapes..I got off after half an hour,I couldn't get a word in..:lol:

:):cheers:

Some really nice photographs from the 1980s

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nancyo23/sets/72057594095382976/

William Brown St.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/107/libraryaj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Goree

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/3769/goreepiazza1si4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I thought that was Metrolink in the bottom right but it's another horse's arse.

Great pics by the way Doug.:cheers:

thanks for posting them Doug, they're fantastic :cheers:

Great photos Doug. I especially like that first one. I love photos of that era when they obviously aren't posed and just show people going about their normal day to day business. Amazing to see those wealthy gentlemen on the right hand side with their top hats, bowlers and canes contrasted with the impoverished young people in the left centre.

Thanks for the comments everyone, glad to share them.

......Amazing to see those wealthy gentlemen on the right hand side with their top hats, bowlers and canes contrasted with the impoverished young people in the left centre.


exactly what my Mrs said.... the taller toff looks like Abe Lincoln's older brother

fantastic pictures. :cheers:

Them posh gents have big sticks to strike the impoverish young people with if they get too close.

Great find Doug.

BBC Four Monday night, 11pm - lots of Liverpool 1909

P-51 Mustang fighters in Upper Parliament Street Liverpool 1944


Storage wrapped P-51 Mustang fighters (w. wingtips removed for shipment) rolling down city street en route to airbase for use in the D-Day (Operation Overlord) invasion of Normandy.

http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c?q=52b6f78a6c699554_large

must have taken a wrong turn at Speke

great picture by the way

*bump*

Found these superb photos on my wanderings through FlickR!

picture credit jb303 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thanoz/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2863774968_ed8c2e8bd1_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/2865077282_1ec2c196cf_o.jpg

The following pictures belong toC.E.Kelly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jackamanfan/). What a superb collection !

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2329/2181397502_7d82526cae_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2303/2180610163_3b37db9ce7_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2299/2180608969_bc37af5e72_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3013/3015130169_8d2c17728a_o.jpg

post cards of the LOR

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/2589258299_4db6432725_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3037/2589257783_5f7f2a5c91_b.jpg

Pier Head landing stage

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3289/2589256335_cdbf063567_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/2587097332_7c1969706c_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/2551438094_30d5988c42_b.jpg


Exchange Flags

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/2550616577_5901d1202e_b.jpg

lord street
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2353/2550616143_4d28a42da6_b.jpg


Bold Street
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3047/2550614537_b1e3a4595b_b.jpg


1940s back of St Georges Hall; Old Haymarket, Dale Street (?), William Brown Street

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/2551433870_ed52238ee3_b.jpg

more


1904 Kings visit

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/2551433094_b8f7f4d444_b.jpg

Lord Street
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3043/2550611379_9064b49776_b.jpg

1929
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3076/2536464664_b3f299530c_b.jpg

Water Street 1946
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2282/2535647397_6167b07752_b.jpg

1905 image
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2222/2535647869_38e4088892_b.jpg

Bold Street 1957
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/2536465424_bec54ab052_b.jpg

more..

1910
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3208/2535646893_1ae52a7bf1_b.jpg

Church Street, 1904. Imagine the bizzies back then, theres one at the bottom right. Clip around the ear with his truncheon and then tell you off! :lol:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2318/2536461534_e01dae07dc_b.jpg

Castle Street
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2028/2536462490_4da889a086_b.jpg

Ranelagh Street
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2338/2536460280_6e461be09c_b.jpg

Church Street 1905
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/2570751708_31e45f715e_b.jpg

Albert Dock 1910
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2085/2227793629_317f6b5f3a_b.jpg

Lord Street 1865
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2289/2185021099_fec23ebd63_o.jpg

Customs House
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2101/2227793647_2f13636402_b.jpg

My favourite, Georges Dock 1858!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2014/2227793655_62a77e9530_b.jpg

Amazing photographs and postcards, by C.E.Kelly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jackamanfan/sets/72157605434525081/) on FlickR

amazing pictures!!

oops!

So that's what a world city looked like? Every inch utilised.

Thanks for posting them, yoshef.

Brilliant, thanks for making the effort to post. :cheers:

Some amazing photos there. :cheers:

What superb pictures and what a busy amazing place, it's just makes me feel a bit sad seeing the loss of all those tram lines and the Overhead Railway.

I know it's easy to look at the past with rose tinted specs, but you can't help but say wow when you see those images.

No Zim, you are right. What these pictures show is essentially a different city, economically, positionally (as in economic and international role, we have not moved geographically!), funtionally.... the population levels, it's sheer busyness. One reason why people should realise that when Liverpudlians bemoan a lost society it is more than being maudlin.. or rose tinted notions.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3076/2536464664_b3f299530c_b.jpg

Has anyone got a birdseye view or map of how the strand was around this time? From some older images it looks like they practically knocked down a whole street to build a road.

More pictures from C.E.Kelly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jackamanfan/)

Church Street


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/2536460572_ab62dd6b25_b.jpg

1940
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3086/2607860682_f82c536b2b_b.jpg

1947
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2077/2535645667_69bbc01f38_b.jpg


Dale Street
1904
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/2587096662_926cac406d_b.jpg

Lime Street / St George's Hall

1890
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2398/2185805794_89b695285f_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2052/2185805984_e27478a4eb_o.jpg


1904
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3047/2570752252_5e1fddbb3b_b.jpg


1912
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/2550613287_b5ed416e9d_b.jpg

1915
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/2569926649_6774f58ebd_b.jpg

1920s
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/2551435228_6183be77f9_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2335/2180613793_f4758778b9_b.jpg


William Brown Street
1950s
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2381/2181401940_8de27b006b_b.jpg


Upper Duke Street , Rodney Street

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2127/2805110701_679df0bb0c_b.jpg



Dale Street 1890
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2168/2185019739_9c7aef10e4_o.jpg

& Tunnel

1940s
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3184/2550610507_4a601d7ee3_b.jpg

1950
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3152/2590092650_22f223be4e_b.jpg

Great stuff Yoshef. :cheers:

1915
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/2569926649_6774f58ebd_b.jpg

Looks infinitely better then than it does now - unfortunately.

Superb pics
Thanks for posting Yoshef:cheers:

wow

what i would do to just step back in time and be in those pics.. smell the air.. touch the buildings, feel the buzz. those colour ones realy bring it to life

Is that Parthenon-themed building still there?

yeah st georges hall is still there

Is that Parthenon-themed building still there?


St Georges Hall looks like the Parthenon in Athens and is still there, but the building that looked like the Pantheon in Rome was destroyed after war time bombing:

Custom House Liverpool

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2101/2227793647_2f13636402_b.jpg


Pantheon in Rome

http://www.fpa.ysu.edu/~slsmith/ecbyzwebpage/pantheonaerial.jpg

wow

what i would do to just step back in time and be in those pics.. smell the air.. touch the buildings, feel the buzz. those colour ones realy bring it to life

That's it. the yearning to do so is almost overwhelming.

You get the feeling in those old photographs (thanks to everyone for posting them) that people were in Liverpool because there was nowhere else they could be. You had to be in Liverpool to make money, prosper, get on in life or simply survive. In that respect it was a like a present day third world city but also a great metropolis.

St Georges Hall looks like the Parthenon in Athens and is still there, but the building that looked like the Pantheon in Rome was destroyed after war time bombing:

Custom House Liverpool

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2101/2227793647_2f13636402_b.jpg


You can still find bits of the Custom House lying around in Anfield Cemetery. I've got some in my garden.

Pics from the cemetery:
http://www.liverpolitan.co.uk/customs001.jpg

http://www.liverpolitan.co.uk/customs002.jpg

http://www.liverpolitan.co.uk/customs003.jpg

Why are bits of it in a cemetery??

thanks for posting yoshef

Love this one you found, is there a few things missing ?


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/2551438094_30d5988c42_b.jpg

Why are bits of it in a cemetery??


They've been laid to rest.

thanks for posting yoshef

Love this one you found, is there a few things missing ?




Yeah the Liverbirds are missing, I noticed that too. I thought it was the quality of the photograph at first, but the clock face is also missing, so presumably the picture was taken during construction?

Not a photo but it would be good to keep all the old stuff together:

Liverpool 1797

http://ogimages.bl.uk/images/003/003KTOP00000018U076E0000[SVC2].jpg


Description: View showing the waterfront of Liverpool and traffic on the River Mersey. There are many sailing ships docked here in the various docks. During the 18th century a number of docks were built: the first in c.1709-21, Salthouse Dock in 1734, Canning Dock in 1753, George's Dock in 1767, Duke's Dock in 1773, the King's Dock 1784, the Manchester Dock of c.1785. Various buildings can be seen along the waterfront, one of the spires is of St George's Church, but it is difficult to identify the others. By 1800, the population of Liverpool had reached 80,000 and it had prospered as a port, importing cotton for Lancashire's growing textile industry.

Source: http://www.europeana.eu/portal/full-doc.html?query=liverpool&start=16&startPage=13&uri=http://www.europeana.eu/resolve/record/90700/3158E3C08E5E8D710CBEFAA4F4FB487224614ED5&view=table&pageId=bd#

this one is by Jazzlad (http://www.flickr.com/photos/33273170@N03/) and is dated 1981 and if I'm not mistaken shows the Bibby Warehouse behind the Waterloo dock warehouse(?).

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3523/3250655037_4c26244449_o.jpg

^^

The more modern looking building to the left of the Bibby Warehouse would also have looked OK with a clean up.

but instead we got the costco shed!

^^^^^^
Good find Yoshef!

http://thehumanjourney.net/images/stories/images/industrial/birds.jpg

19th century aerial engraving of the central docks showing the Customs House in place

From here http://thehumanjourney.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=108

early 20th C it was not such a bizarre comparison to make?
http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/pan/6a15000/6a15200/6a15259r.jpg

Fantastic find....fantastic picture. When I viewed the left field I convinced myself I was looking up the mersey....until I scanned right. The vibrancy and business of the Port of Liverpool was similar to this, that's for sure!

Exactly. Somebody mentioned that had it not been for WWI then Liverpool, though at its peak rather than continuing its massive boom, would have built many more major commercial buildings. This is true. NYC took on many of the trans atlantic commercial roles that Liverpool previously had. The city's where on different trajectories, NYC would still have become the city we know and love today, but!

Not Victorian but these postcard images look great.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2453/p1000248ys1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Reminds me of pictures of early Hollywood, but it's Liverpool.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7108/p1000251bt8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7335/p1000253pk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1605/p1000254qx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9804/p1000257ab2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6596/p1000258do0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Fantastic find doug... I have never seen any of those before! :cheers:

http://www.superchefblog.com/images/lifelogo_72dpi221x112pxl4c.png

LIFE Magazine - Liverpool Cathedral seen over the bomb damage of Liverpool (1942).

http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c?q=62e1dd5af32973de_large

Thanks Tony, I was not aware of the 1913 Exhibition until a couple of days ago. It seems there has been 3 big Liverpool exhibitions, the 1886 International at Botanic Road, 1887 Jubilee exhibition at the same site and this 1913. I need to do some more research on these.

PR great find.

Anyone know when these buildings were pulled down?

Not Victorian but these postcard images look great.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2453/p1000248ys1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Reminds me of pictures of early Hollywood, but it's Liverpool.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7108/p1000251bt8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7335/p1000253pk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1605/p1000254qx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9804/p1000257ab2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6596/p1000258do0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Probably only ever temporary.

Shocking to think of, considering what came next, the scale of Liverpool ambitions back then. Big fuck off expo's! Like Shanghai today.

But Liverpool is going to Shangers. On the uptick now.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_eGpXC9KiV8w/R8MA0BsvfiI/AAAAAAAAASM/zMRStyYnh0o/0001+009.jpg

^^Quite.

Just stumbled across this thread. By far the best on the Liverpool Forums!! Its sickening to look at some of the buildings that we have lost eitehr to the bombers or planners.

Good link to the 1886 Liverpool International Exhibition here (http://1886le.ftldesign.com/)

http://1886le.ftldesign.com/1886LE14.jpg

http://1886le.ftldesign.com/1886LE10.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_eGpXC9KiV8w/R8MA0BsvfiI/AAAAAAAAASM/zMRStyYnh0o/0001+009.jpg

I can't see this pic kat


Were did these expos take place?

I can't see this pic kat


Were did these expos take place?
Tony, I had a similar problem with Kat's, but I copied the image properties and pasted it into the address bar. It was a bit long. Try this instead: http://tinyurl.com/d89zaz

The 1886 exhibition was held in Wavertree, btw.

Cheers for the info about teh expo.

I still can't see a pic though, the page just opens up as a google error!

Ranelagh Street looks amazing. My house was built in 1886 not that far from Edge Lane, so strange theres nothing left and no reference anywhere in our museums?!

I can't see this pic kat

Try This (http://lh3.ggpht.com/_eGpXC9KiV8w/R8MA0BsvfiI/AAAAAAAAASM/zMRStyYnh0o/0001+009.jpg)

nope.... not that one either!

I'm geting really desperate to know what it is now!!

nope.... not that one either!

I'm geting really desperate to know what it is now!!

What about this? (http://llrg.co.uk/LLRG_Gallery/Lime_Street.jpg)

nope.... not that one either!

I'm geting really desperate to know what it is now!!


You could always comment on the Old Liverpool pics people (Me) are posting on your new Liverpool downtown thread Tony..

I appreciate 200 lurkers or so having a blimp in the last few hours, a comment or two would be nice though mate for all the effort....

^^

You're a terrible man Sebo.

What about this? (http://llrg.co.uk/LLRG_Gallery/Lime_Street.jpg)

Got it... nice old pic of the Northwestern hotel!!!!!
Thanks.


Ged...... you know I love most of your pics. I used to praise them and thank you prefusely when you first contrinuted pictures, but as I said after many, many posts stating my awe, it becomes repetative saying the same thing and giving the same praise?

I did write at the time that I was going to stop posting thanks or praise in response to the ones I like, as there are just too many, but I also wrote that this did not mean I was no longer grateful for you putting them up.
:)

For the way we were, pre-war..... see this page of my site

http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=44922707&cr=7

For post war photographs..... see here:

http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=44843738&cr=7


After 5 hours in the records office doing some look-ups for people yesterday, another 130 will be added to various pages from Wednesday.

Your site is pretty addictive Keayman, other half is shouting at me now for ignoring her :lol: Fantastic stuff though :cheers:


From Flickr, Commutation Row in 1928, by paddygreengrass (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22190600@N03/).

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2025/2400696384_52fd30a2eb_o.jpg

Thanks yoshef. :cheers:

Amazing pic Yosh. Had no idea that Islington used to look like that? Can't believe they got rid of those streets and left landscaped emptiness!

I remember that Holy Trinity church (just to the left of the Wellington column)burning to a shell in the late 60s as a nipper.

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I've re-edited them down in size to messageboard size on imageshack which is the same I use on other boards so don't know why they've come out massive like that?

^^..Delete them Ged and start again..
I think its best you delete them from Image shack and start again as you may have Imported as very large files..

Come on Lad, hurry up I wanna see them...:cheers:

ooooooooooops

...This is Rose Hill old chapel on the corner of Rose Place and Comus Street which when pgotographed here on 24th June 1930 was functioning as Rose Leather Works addressed at 20-22 Rose Place. An ornate Walker's Warrington Ales lamp is attached to the Brewer's Arms public house on the opposite corner of the street.

Resized Ged...Great pic mate. well done..

Pic shows the Welsh Calvinist Chapel north end of Comus St / Rose Place..

Starter for 10..confer all you want...:)
What was the name of the Stables on Comus Street where they kept Elephants ?

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/SCOTTIE%20ROAD%20AREA/rosehilloldLarge.jpg

I don't know that one mate but I wouldn't want to be the fella brushing the shit up :)

I don't know that one mate but I wouldn't want to be the fella brushing the shit up :)

^^..:lol:

^^..Delete them Ged and start again..


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^^..Eh..?..explain please !

cityofgold just logged of....

No Explanation...I'm starting to get worried now with all this blanking..:shifty:

I'm not made of wood you know cog...I've got feelings..:lol:

Eh up...cityofgold back online...:lol:

Meanwhile back at the ranch...nearly 5pm..tea time..

cityofgold still online....take your time bud..:lol:...Seeee yerr.

I remember that Holy Trinity church (just to the left of the Wellington column)burning to a shell in the late 60s as a nipper.
Thanks for the info Ged, mate. I was about to ask about that church in the pic. Is the other one further away SFX?

Ged, cracking photo mate. Thanks. Ged/Gerard, is this the end of Comus St near St Anne's dibble shop? Trying to get my bearings:?

?!I think you mean !?

^^..Eh..?..explain please !

Talking to yourself Ged or a typo? Was what I meant.

Talking to yourself Ged or a typo? Was what I meant.


No, I was talking to Keayman. better known to folk as Ged Fagan...

Thanks for the info Ged, mate. I was about to ask about that church in the pic. Is the other one further away SFX?

Thanks PBR. Yes, I would say so, it seems to be SFX.

Regarding the whereabouts of that chapel. Part of Comus Street is on a bit of a different line these days in that the bit that leads down from Christian Street wasn't there previously. As Rose Place ran up from Scottie to Fox Street across Comus Street, it'd be on the North West corner of the X.

There's a full picture of the brewers arms in vol 4 of Freddy O'Connors 'A pub on every corner' and it mentions that it was built on the site of a brewery hence its name and that there was once 14 pubs on Rose Place. Seems the poorer these old over crowded districts like Scottie, the more pubs they had.

I'll give this another go at uploading.

99-105 Rose Place with 105 being the furthest property on the corner of Fox Street which was occupied by Mr Washington, a butcher. Taken on 2/5/1935 during a Liverpool Corporation Engineers Department purge on delapidated and unsanitary properties including many courts, these don't seem to be in that bad a state. The fancy property across Fox Street on the corner of Bute Street is Blackledges bakery.


http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4041/roseplace991055235ii4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/roseplace991055235ii4.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img213/roseplace991055235ii4.jpg/1/)





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Dave.....Jobo the photographer ?

Walk past Jobo's to the next street.
Stay on same pavement..
stop..turn slightly right as if looking up toward Bishop Goss school..

You'd be standing roughly where the pic was taken..
The Welsh Chapel would have been directly in front of you..

I'll give this another go at uploading.

99-105 Rose Place with 105 being the furthest property on the corner of Fox Street which was occupied by Mr Washington, a butcher. Taken on 2/5/1935 during a Liverpool Corporation Engineers Department purge on delapidated and unsanitary properties including many courts, these don't seem to be in that bad a state. The fancy property across Fox Street on the corner of Bute Street is Blackledges bakery.






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Any more from around that area and that era ? My Dad was brought up at 111 Rose Vale in a shop -their name was Dorr ( as is mine) From what I know they were bombed out by the geeermans . Which is ironic as Dorr is an anglisized version of Doer (with an umlout) as his parents came from Hanover.

picture from Flickr, by spark.wfg08 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spark08/)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1185/1040539108_cf45fda852_o.jpg

Any more from around that area and that era ? My Dad was brought up at 111 Rose Vale in a shop -their name was Dorr ( as is mine) From what I know they were bombed out by the geeermans . Which is ironic as Dorr is an anglisized version of Doer (with an umlout) as his parents came from Hanover.

Hiya LABlue. Plenty more of that area and era on here:

http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=44922707&cr=7

Now, as you may know from the A-Z, Rose Vale was quite a bit further up from that picture, running from Great Homer Street by where St. Martin's indoor market was and it led up to Netherfield Road North, still there in small parts. I'll look it up for you next time i'm in the LRO which could be this weekend. If anyone else has anything they'd like me to look up, please let me know.

ps. I've ascertained from this that pics of that area do exist but as thought, you'd be very lucky to get the actual house/shop concerned.

http://archive.liverpool.gov.uk/dserve.exe?&dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqCmd=overview.tcl&dsqSearch=((text)='rose%20vale')


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Hiya LABlue. Plenty more of that area and era on here:

http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=44922707&cr=7

Now, as you may know from the A-Z, Rose Vale was quite a bit further up from that picture, running from Great Homer Street by where St. Martin's indoor market was and it led up to Netherfield Road North, still there in small parts. I'll look it up for you next time i'm in the LRO which could be this weekend. If anyone else has anything they'd like me to look up, please let me know.

ps. I've ascertained from this that pics of that area do exist but as thought, you'd be very lucky to get the actual house/shop concerned.

http://archive.liverpool.gov.uk/dserve.exe?&dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqCmd=overview.tcl&dsqSearch=((text)='rose%20vale')


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Much obliged mate -:cheers: we lost most records of the family and my Dad died years ago so anything we find is good. We were lucky enough to find a picture of my uncles shop in Ainscoughs Liverpool that was on Netherfield Rd - name of Routledge - it was a chandlers. Tom Routledge was well known in the area not only because he was a cobbler and did shoe repairs but wore a big built up shoe and calipers from having polio during childhood.

Didn't manage to get there this weekend and it's the match this avvy but will be there next weekend deffo and i'll post up whatever I find.

http://www.bluestarline.org/lamports/vandyck3/vandyck_voltaire_liverpool_pc.jpg

http://www.bluestarline.org/lamports/vandyck3.html

^^ superb that Mr Kite. :cheers:

not sure if this has been posted before, but i have just caught a show on BBC 4 Called Touring Britian - the Victorian way.

the first 10 or so minutes were dedicated to Liverpool.

Here is the link on iplayer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00hw3yr/Touring_Britain_The_Victorian_Way/

I'll give this another go at uploading.

99-105 Rose Place with 105 being the furthest property on the corner of Fox Street which was occupied by Mr Washington, a butcher. Taken on 2/5/1935 during a Liverpool Corporation Engineers Department purge on delapidated and unsanitary properties including many courts, these don't seem to be in that bad a state. The fancy property across Fox Street on the corner of Bute Street is Blackledges bakery.


http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4041/roseplace991055235ii4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/roseplace991055235ii4.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img213/roseplace991055235ii4.jpg/1/)

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My Mother lived in one of those big houses on Rose place with 3 generations of the family. I have only ever seen pics of the front step with various family members gathered, and thoses in your photo could easily be one of them. Is that photo looking towards Scotty or away from it? Or should I say, was that Bakers on the same side of fox st as the Friary? I'll have to try to contact some relatives to find the house number, be funny if one of those in the pic our house and one of the figures was a relative of mine. The more you look at these old pics, the more you realise how much valuable city fabric was lost, not to mention the phenomenal communities that they housed. These buildings would all have scrubbed up brilliantly. My mother used to talk about a grand(ish) staircase and massive Kitchen with lots of rooms..... there had to be there were 16 kids, Grand parents and uncles in the family. Incendiaries wrecked their house (although it wasn't demolished till 1971), and I don't think it ever had electricity.

Tom, that pic is looking away from Scottie, the lower numbers being Scottie end. Blackledgers is on the corner of Fox St and Bute st, so yes, the Friary side of Fox Street, the Friary being only 25 years old at that time.

not sure where this was
http://www.pearsonsofliverpool.co.uk/communities/8/004/006/885/208/images/4523809046.swf

it was in Liverpool anyway so there u go!
lots more here for those interested
http://www.pearsonsofliverpool.co.uk/#/wartime/4532005429

http://www.20thcenturyimages.co.uk/trolleyed/14/49/1046/index.htm

not sure where this was
http://www.pearsonsofliverpool.co.uk/communities/8/004/006/885/208/images/4523809046.swf

it was in Liverpool anyway so there u go!
lots more here for those interested
http://www.pearsonsofliverpool.co.uk/#/wartime/4532005429


The Picture Kat shows Sydney House..

not sure if this will work but the links here too


http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/stations/l/liverpool_crown_street/index.shtml

Thanku
Gerrad
100 black and white photo's here too
http://www.bmcole.co.uk/localhistoryviews/sampleliverpool1910-1920.htm

^^..My pleasure Kat..
Great pics there girl, thanks for adding the link.

Thanku
Gerrad
100 black and white photo's here too
http://www.bmcole.co.uk/localhistoryviews/sampleliverpool1910-1920.htm

Amazing liner pic, 3 at once in the Mersey!!

One for LABlue. Not No. 111 unfortunately but Nos. 5-13 Rose Vale taken on 17.3.1955 from Portland Street.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9948/rosevale513frportlandst.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rosevale513frportlandst.jpg)





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Excellent. You haven't got any of Westbourne St, just behind the Colegiate have you Ged?

I have an old 8mm silent video shot in and around the Collegiate that shows a few glimpses of around the area circa 72..
I'm also supposed to be getting some pics from the 70's of the area..any one Interested in seeing around Talbot St off Islington..or Capaldis Cafe..(Where ?..:nuts:)..or the Old Car auctions at the end of Westbourne St... best keep an eye on my website to view them.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5298/p1000291.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000291.jpg)


http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6257/p1000286.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000286.jpg)


http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2545/p1000288q.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000288q.jpg)


http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/990/p1000290o.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000290o.jpg)

^^..Great pics Doug, thanks for showing them..
I've never seen that map before either, it puts things in place now when I'm wandering down that way..Cheers Doug..:cheers:

7 second changing sequence..Then and Now.(Summer 08)


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/BOATS%20AND%20DOCKS/Trafalgardockgifdone.gif

Thanks Ged love the change sequence, cheers.

Great stuff Doug and Ged. Tony, i'll have a mooch for you.

One for LABlue. Not No. 111 unfortunately but Nos. 5-13 Rose Vale taken on 17.3.1955 from Portland Street.

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Much appreciated - I dont think 111 would have been standing at the time of this shot as I believe it got bombed in the war (with my dad still in the cellar according to family folklore )

Also like the photos of Clarence Dock PS - used to go in there quite a bit when I worked at Manweb.

Great stuff Doug and Ged. Tony, i'll have a mooch for you.

Nice one! :cheers:

Linacre Road Litherland Liverpool 1940
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/TheWraith5173/OLDLiverpoolPhotos/LinacreRoadLitherland1940.jpg

Mersey Ferry Royal Iris Liverpool
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/TheWraith5173/OLDLiverpoolPhotos/ROYAL_1.jpg

Seaforth
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/TheWraith5173/OLDLiverpoolPhotos/SEAFOR1.jpg

Stanley Road Bootle
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/TheWraith5173/OLDLiverpoolPhotos/STANLE1.jpg

Stanley Road Bootle
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/TheWraith5173/OLDLiverpoolPhotos/STANLE2.jpg

Stanley Road Bootle
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/TheWraith5173/OLDLiverpoolPhotos/STANLE3.jpg

Sefton Park Boating Lake
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/TheWraith5173/OLDLiverpoolPhotos/SEFTON1.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/TheWraith5173/OLDLiverpoolPhotos/THELAK1.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/TheWraith5173/OLDLiverpoolPhotos/MAGHUL1.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/TheWraith5173/OLDLiverpoolPhotos/LANE1.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/TheWraith5173/OLDLiverpoolPhotos/KNOWSL1.jpg

The Three Banks In Bootle Liverpool (date ?)
located between bootle strand & johnsons dry cleaners
the bank in view was last known as a T.S.B,
the other 2 banks where on each corner
to the LEFT (not seen in the pic) was the Midland Bank
to the RIGHT (not seen in the pic) was the Barclays, also former police station
behind the Camera man would now be the Bootle North Park
the Bank/TSB shown in picture is now an undertakers / funeral parlour
(date ?)
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/TheWraith5173/OLDLiverpoolPhotos/TheThreeBanksBootle.jpg
(date 9th march 2009)
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/TheWraith5173/OLDLiverpoolPhotos/S7300771.jpg

Thanks Ged love the change sequence, cheers.


^^...:cheers: @Doug...:okay:

Great stuff, Doug, Ged, Wraith et al. This is quickly becoming my favourite thread.:cheers:

Thanks Ged love the change sequence, cheers.

aye, they are rather special those! :cheers: ged

It's great digging these out of the LRO, some never seen before. This is Clayton Street pictured on 3rd March 1927 in what was to become part of the Gerard Street clearance area. Clayton Street ran, and indeed still does in part, at the back of the Museum and Walker Art Gallery. The boy on the right is standing at the railings of the Technical College. Amazing to think that one side of these buildings was William Brown Street and the poverty which lay just over the other side. Having said that, there are some fine portico's on the terrace, Cuerden Street was then between this and Hunter Street.


http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8115/claytonst931927.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=claytonst931927.jpg)


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I'll give this another go at uploading.

99-105 Rose Place with 105 being the furthest property on the corner of Fox Street which was occupied by Mr Washington, a butcher. Taken on 2/5/1935 during a Liverpool Corporation Engineers Department purge on delapidated and unsanitary properties including many courts, these don't seem to be in that bad a state. The fancy property across Fox Street on the corner of Bute Street is Blackledges bakery.


http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4041/roseplace991055235ii4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/roseplace991055235ii4.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img213/roseplace991055235ii4.jpg/1/)



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Just spoken to my aunty who now lives in St Anne's court having moved back to the area when those flats were done-up. She says our family lived in 83 Rose place from the early 1900's upto WW2, when their house was badly damaged by incendiaries. Most of the offspring had already been displaced into the likes of the 4 squares. Would be interested to know if there are any more pics of this street.

Unfortunately Tom, 83 doesn't seem to figure. Here's the listings.

http://archive.liverpool.gov.uk/dserve.exe?&dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Overview.tcl&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqSearch=((text)='ROSE%20PLACE')&dsqPos=1&dsqNum=10&PF=No


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Unfortunately Tom, 83 doesn't seem to figure. Here's the listings.

http://archive.liverpool.gov.uk/dserve.exe?&dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Overview.tcl&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqSearch=((text)='ROSE%20PLACE')&dsqPos=1&dsqNum=10&PF=No


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Thanks for that Keayman..... it's a shame, don't suppose any of the other references to Rose place are for the same section of the street? Thanks for checking anyway. I'll have to ask around the family. I've got one pic of the doorway only with half the family sitting on the steps (c.1935).

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/384/kkke.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kkke.jpg)

overhead railway
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/226/liverl.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=liverl.jpg)

kat

Some old video footage as well as black and white photographs on this link
http://www.oftimeandthecity.com/index.php
kat

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee255/zichi/blogger/horsedrawn-cart-liverpool.jpg?t=1240726954

Castle Street

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3557/3477560013_69c402740f_b.jpg

picture: ronramstew (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54996985@N00/)

Lots added to my site since I was last on this page including some of the abolished streets that were cleared for the building of the Royal Hospital.

http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=44843738&cr=7



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Does anyone have anyone old photos of the area to the rear of Compton House on Church Street? I was reading the planning applications for the current M&S re-development the other day, and found this document - http://northgate.liverpool.gov.uk/DocumentExplorer/Application/stream.aspx?target=http%3A%2F%2F10.8.21.67%2FNorthgate%2FDocumentExplorer%2FDocumentStream%2FDocumentStream.aspx%3Fname%3D%255bUrban%2BSalon%2BReport%255d%2BA%2BBrief%2BHistory%2Bof%2Bthe%2BBuilding%2B(06.11..pdf%26unique%3D732516%26type%3DMVMPRD_DC_PLANAPP (Requires .pdf reader) - attached to application 08L/2827, which provides a brief history of the building. Within it, mention is made of the clearing away of buildings behind Compton House (and part of Compton House itself), and the obliteration of Leigh Street to build the 1970's extension. I doubt there was much of exceptional architectural interest there or else it would have been discussed before now, but it would be interesting to see what that area looked like nonetheless.

Chris, I have these 2 pics (when Williamson Sq. was a proper square!) they may help.


http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5378/williamsonsq1.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=williamsonsq1.jpg)


http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9580/williamsonsq2.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=williamsonsq2.jpg)

^^

Thanks for those Doug, much appreciated. :cheers:

It's interesting to see what was there, although at the same entirely depressing given the row of semi-derelict shops we have there now. :ohno:

The second photo looks much earlier.

Interesting for two reasons --- the man with the crutch, who may well have been a war casualty. I imagine such sights were commonplace back then.

And I love the poster "Football Special" on the kiosk. We were obviously just as footy mad in those days!

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/nof/docks/images/62.jpg

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/nof/docks/access/image62.html


http://www.btinternet.com/%7Ephilipbparker/Image62B.jpg

http://www.btinternet.com/~philipbparker/liverpool_images.htm

church street, 1893, by Ronramstew (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54996985@N00/) on flickr..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3552/3485485033_6ac4e857b6_b.jpg


He has more here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54996985@N00/sets/72157617382809965/).

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3562/3410045787_a623bf9a09_o.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/54996985@N00/3410045787/

Lime Street 1905

scroll down

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3317/3473788165_94f1cd0d7c_o.jpg
^^
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54996985@N00/3473788165/in/set-72157616011073552

wonderful open vista of the grand station frontage I see!


Great stuff on this thread folks!

"O'Neill's Oyster"! When did our city lose its sense of what (breathe in now) a lesser city like Boston, Mass. takes for granted and makes an internationally famous living out of.

fantastic picture of lime street that one :cheers:



Parker Street, 1953,

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3302/3515035270_f18088ab9b_o.jpg

picture by jb303 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thanoz/) (Flickr)

I love that pic, its shame its not still like that, as I really hate those steps at St Johns/Clayton Square

so do I

I don't know - just look at those people struggling to climb that hill before the steps were there.

Fuck the Queen.

wonder why they did put the steps in, it seams so stupid when you see what it was like

wonder why they did put the steps in, it seams so stupid when you see what it was like

Actually when you look at both those photos (Lime Street and Parker Street) you can see places where pedestrians and vehicles moved with ease and which are now replaced by quite high flights of steps.

This is what they did to the 'elephant arch' at Lime Street:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v421/Martin_S/Lime%20Street%20Station/080503-7.jpg

One thing I can never get over in those old photographs is just how much bigger things seemed in those days. For example, that collonade of arches at the front of Lime Street Station looked much larger when compared to the shops in front. With them completely exposed they look smaller, probably because there is nothing to compare them to.

wonder why they did put the steps in, it seams so stupid when you see what it was like

ISTR reading on here that the steps were put in at the behest of Boots, at the time Clayton Square was being built. As the anchor tenant for the new centre, people were keen to keep them happy. When they requested they have a longer frontage on the ground floor (other than just the diagonal section facing onto Clayton Square itself), the only solution was to eliminate the slope and install some steps. I don't know how much truth there is in that of course, but it does make sense. Boots frontage would be pretty small with the slope still in situ.

wonder why they did put the steps in, it seams so stupid when you see what it was like

A lesser known fact about our fair city is that that entrance to Lime St is actually a street called Gloucester St. Check it out on your A-Z's.

I didnt know that. that area is so interesting and has seen so much change. I guess when the new steps are finished it will look sooo much better and improve the immediate area so much. Ive never understood when they havent converted the old midland hotel (if thats the name) back to being a hotel, it was purpose built for this, its a beautiful building and in a great location. To good for students!. Couldnt Holiday Inn have this instead of St Johns?. Is the building owned by Cosmopolitan, seams good business sense to sell to a hotel operator and cash in.

I didnt know that. that area is so interesting and has seen so much change. I guess when the new steps are finished it will look sooo much better and improve the immediate area so much. Ive never understood when they havent converted the old midland hotel (if thats the name) back to being a hotel, it was purpose built for this, its a beautiful building and in a great location. To good for students!. Couldnt Holiday Inn have this instead of St Johns?. Is the building owned by Cosmopolitan, seams good business sense to sell to a hotel operator and cash in.

I would be surprised if it isn't a hotel by the end of the next decade. Didn't the original North Western hotel only have about 6 bathrooms or so, a bit like the one at Saint Pancras? At least the student accomodation has brought it back to life a bit. Does LJMU own it? If so they must be sitting on a goldmine.

You`d think who-ever owns it reaslises this is worth a mint. Fingers crossed it will revert back to a hotel. Its much better than the marriott or Liner buildings

http://dewi.ca/trains/l_o_r/pix/n32_4_4.jpg

http://dewi.ca/trains/l_o_r/pix/n32_4_5.jpg

From this good site

http://dewi.ca/trains/l_o_r/

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Hello to every one.
I have just joined having enjoyed this great thread of my beloved city.
I am very much into Victorian/Edwardian Liverpool and have been for the last 30 years along with my family history.
One of my projects is building horse drawn vehicles from these periods.
Can I ask if anyone has any photographs of horse drawn vehicles for the Liverpool area any type of picture I would be grateful for.
You may have a family photo taken with said vehicle, that would be great.
I would like to make a true representation of these vehicles if possible.
Please keep this thread going its fantastic.
Thank you.

Hello xkopite.

Do you know about the Carters and their campaign ot have a statue of a carthorse made from bronze? If you don't I will try and find a contact for you. They will have loads of pics, as many of them actually worked with the horses around the docks.

this was on Flickr, Martin97uk (http://www.flickr.com/photos/martin97uk/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3595/3304987898_01f26f814b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3501/3304993036_ce4c194964_b.jpg

Hi Tony Sebo

Thanks for that reminder mate, I will have to look them up.

One for xkopite.


http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/8322/horsedrawntram1.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=horsedrawntram1.jpg)

One of my favourite,s Doug.

Thanks for posting

http://www.oldstratforduponavon.com/images/liverpool1914.jpg

http://www.oldstratforduponavon.com/images/liverpooltunnel.jpg


http://www.oldstratforduponavon.com/images/liverpoolbrown.jpg

More here www.oldstratforduponavon.com/liverpool.html

http://www.oldstratforduponavon.com/images/liverpool1914.jpg


Great find :okay: I look at most of the old pictures in this thread and think if only it were still like that, but in this instance, with regards to the foreground, I didn't. I'd walked past St Johns Gardens this afternoon and it was heaving, I'd never seen it so packed before. In comparison the old photos make the area look deserted for a change.

^^

And look! No big trees obscuring the view of the best neo classical buildings in the UK. The way it was meant to be, and was, until, relatively speaking, recent times.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2425/3599700573_c1e16c945f_o.jpg

part of my dingle tunnel set

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pacef8/sets/72157614435175723/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2425/3599700573_c1e16c945f_o.jpg

part of my dingle tunnel set

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pacef8/sets/72157614435175723/

Shame they cant reinstate it

Shame they cant reinstate it

It can easily be reinstated. The tunnel is there, the Northern Line is beneath the tunnel portal, the station is still intact. A gantry taking trains from the cliff tunnel can be taken down to the Northern Line below. It can be in a fancy designed, attractive enclosed tube to keep noise away from the flats.

Then inner city Dingle will have its own Merseyrail station, for minimal cost as most is still there.

It can easily be reinstated. The tunnel is there, the Northern Line is beneath the tunnel portal, the station is still intact.

my mate's dad's garage is in that tunnel.

they would have to move them out first and i dont think they would go happily, he's been there a while

my mate's dad's garage is in that tunnel.

they would have to move them out first and i dont think they would go happily, he's been there a while

The community comes first, he would be compensated. Dingle was meant to be a through station as the plans were to to bore the tunnel further and terminate further inland when funds became available. That could also still happen, taking the tunnel across Sefton Park, rising and joining up around Smithdown Rd with the line to Lime Street. Of course leaving the odd station in the tunnel along the way.

The community comes first, he would be compensated.

suppose you're right

Sorry to depress you all, but stumbled across this good site
http://chesterwalls.info/gallery.html (http://chesterwalls.info/gallery/davidlewis.html)

http://chesterwalls.info/gallery/oldpics/dockchambre.jpg
Edward Chambré Hardman: Liverpool South Docks from Liver Building c 1955

http://chesterwalls.info/gallery/oldpics/salthouse.jpg

http://chesterwalls.info/gallery/oldpics/bluecoat.jpg

http://chesterwalls.info/gallery/oldpics/philharmonic.jpg
The First Philharmonic Hall, Hope Street

http://chesterwalls.info/gallery/oldpics/customshouse3.jpg
The Customs House 3: Viewed from South Castle Street c 1910

http://chesterwalls.info/gallery/oldpics/lordstreet.jpg
Lord Street

http://chesterwalls.info/gallery/oldpics/customsaerial.jpg

http://chesterwalls.info/gallery/oldpics/customsfoundations17254.jpg

http://chesterwalls.info/gallery/oldpics/davidlewis677.jpg
The David Lewis Hotel:Great George Street June 1977

^^Like the Cortina.

The photo was 1935 not 1955.

Superb find Mr Kite, the Customs House ones really do illustrate what a wonderful building the city is missing.

^^

Agreed. In fact, the whole area around the Customs House was so much better back in the day. Regarding the first photo, does anyone know when the access point between Canning and Salthouse Docks was filled in and why? I always thought it odd the two weren't linked, but clearly they were at some point.

I have just spent over 2 hours going through these amazing photographs as I research for some photos of Sackville Street Everton, which lay between Netherfield Road, Great Homer Street and adjacent to Roscommon Street, before either the Germans bombed it or the slum clearance programme knocked it down.

I apologise if this isn't the right place to post this, but could anyone direct me to where I might find photos of this street?

Many thanks.

Do not know if the exact site you are looking for is here, but the following site contains an impressive 394 old black and white Liverpool scenes

http://www.watcha.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

Sackville Street is on my site www.inacityliving.piczo.com (the post war b&w photos page)

Sackville Street is on my site www.inacityliving.piczo.com (the post war b&w photos page)

Keayman – I have also been trawling your site for the past hour - but only the pre-war courts and slums page and that is also an amazing site. I just checked the back and white photos and found it immediately. Many thanks for that. You don’t know how hard and how long I have looked for a photo of Sackville Street (where my great grandfather lived at no 21).

BeeGee – thanks too for your recommendation. Another excellent site, which I am now working my way through.

Best wishes,

Sharecropper

Glad to have been of any help Sharecropper.

There's also one on this page http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=33776503&cr=7

Looking up Sackville Street, kids are swinging on a lamp post at the bottom of the street.



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There's also one on this page http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=33776503&cr=7

Looking up Sackville Street, kids are swinging on a lamp post at the bottom of the street.



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You really are THE MAN.

2 Sackville Street photos in 2 days, after 2 years on and off of my drawing a total blank elsewhere!

Many thanks.

Keayman - any idea of a rough date (or decade) for the lamp post swinging children photo?

Thanks,

Sharecropper.

Sharecropper, the good news is you've got 3 in 3 days now. I've just uploaded another to the post war b&w pics page, a good one looking down from the top of the heights. These were all taken in 1965, there's another at the bottom of Sackville Street where it joined Portland Street on the 50/60s style flats page - it's the one featuring the horse and cart. Enjoy.

What can I say. Astounding. Thanks.

Looking at your site and seeing the wonderful houses demolished in the Everton "slum clearance" makes me really annoyed. I wonder just how many backhanders were paid out for such an important part of the fabric of the city to have been demolished. Luckily it couldn't happen now....could it?!

PS - do you know whether there is a numbering convention for Liverpool streets, so for example would the first odd or even numbers be shown at the end of the street nearest the town hall or some other marker? And would the odd or the even numbers be on the left hand side of the street? (to cut through the garble, what I am trying to work out is if number 21 would be one of the houses we can see, or that we can't see!)

As I understand it, almost without exception, streets are numbered odds on the left hand side and evens on the right with the numbers starting at the end nearest the Town Hall. Obviously newer estates with cul-de-sacs etc throw a stick in the spokes but that would not have been the case with Sackville St.

As I understand it, almost without exception, streets are numbered odds on the left hand side and evens on the right with the numbers starting at the end nearest the Town Hall. Obviously newer estates with cul-de-sacs etc throw a stick in the spokes but that would not have been the case with Sackville St.

...From which confirmation I have identified the exact house.

Many thanks.

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=illuminatedpage.pdf

I do hope this works.

If it has it will show the hand illuminated introduction page of a photo' album dated 1889. The album is in a distressed state but has some very interesting shots still surviving including the Customs House, St Nicholas Church, the Great Eastern and what appear to be Rock Ferry ferry terminal.

Also included are shots of the Isle of Man, Napoli, Pompei, Ruthin Castle to name but a few. If anyone has tips on how to scan these B/W shots and haow to restore some of the imagery, I will post the local results here.

The illumination design appears islamic inspired - any thoughts?

^^

BeeGee. The reason your image hasn't appeared is because it's in .pdf format. In order for it to display on the forum, the simplest thing to do, is to bring it up on screen, take a screen dump (using the Prt Scr button), paste the screen dump into MS Paint, or whichever image program you prefer, crop the screen dump so it only contains the part you want to share, then save as a .jpg or .gif, and upload again to Imageshack. Get the image location, put it in IMG tags in this format - Your Image Location Here - in a forum reply message, and then post your message to the forum as normal. It sounds long-winded, but it's actually quite straight-forward. Ask if you get stuck. :)

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2228/illuminatedpagegif.gif

If the hand illuminated page of the Victorian (1889) Photo Album appears it is down to the perseverance and advice from Chris B - if it does not it is due to over 50's Apple Mac awareness! :)

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2070/greateastern.jpg


First attempt at transferring an actual photo from the album- the legend accompanying this photo states 'the Great Eastern in the Mersey' date is prior to November 1889.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6017/stnicholaschurch.jpg


Slightly faded view of St Nicholas Church and the environs - again prior to 1889

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2153/merseyferry.jpg

A slight conundrum this one - the only clue if the pencil title 'The Liverpool ferry' any thoughts, it could be New Brighton but I'm guessing? Again pre 1889.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2070/greateastern.jpg


First attempt at transferring an actual photo from the album- the legend accompanying this photo states 'the Great Eastern in the Mersey' date is prior to November 1889.

The Great Eastern was broken up in Rock Ferry between 1889/1890. It took over 18 months to dismantle and I believe her topmast is, still, at Anfield.

Fantastic, if slightly upsetting, picture though.

You're right ratstrangler and still known as flagpole corner.

From the LFC History

"There was one last building feat to take place in 1928. The addition of a flagpole for the club was erected at the corner of the Kop and Kemlyn Road stands. It is today known to many as flagpole corner. The flagpole also has a history to it. The pole is made up of the mast from one of the first ever iron ships called the Great Eastern. This ship first set sail in 1860 but about 20 years later the ship had been left to rot across the river Mersey at Rock Ferry. The mast which had survived was bought by the club and was taken across the Mersey to Liverpool before being dragged up Everton Valley by horses."

You're right ratstrangler and still known as flagpole corner.

From the LFC History

"There was one last building feat to take place in 1928. The addition of a flagpole for the club was erected at the corner of the Kop and Kemlyn Road stands. It is today known to many as flagpole corner. The flagpole also has a history to it. The pole is made up of the mast from one of the first ever iron ships called the Great Eastern. This ship first set sail in 1860 but about 20 years later the ship had been left to rot across the river Mersey at Rock Ferry. The mast which had survived was bought by the club and was taken across the Mersey to Liverpool before being dragged up Everton Valley by horses."


And it has been the flagpole from which the Champions flag has been flown from 18 times. Here's looking at number 19 this season.
:nuts:

BG, great find thanks for posting the pics.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3562/3827211735_175e2e83fa_b.jpg

From ronramstew (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54996985@N00/)'s Flickr

Powerful image - full of forboding. No trains on the overhead, Goree Piazza is clinging on about to be demolished? Much less activity. Maybe the overhead itself has closed for good?

heres another on Ronramstew's flickr site

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3471/3829095675_fd7cfdfa44_b.jpg

I found these pictures by accident when searching the internet for pictures of these Exhibitionsm, and have just registered to respond to them.

I have been working on these Exhibitions in the context of Liverpool and imperialism and published a study investigating the way ideas of empire were transmitted in Liverpool (period 1880s to 1950s) - if anyone is interested, I'll give details.


My next stage has been to look at the 1886 and 1887 Exhibitions in some depth, using primary sources (newspapers, Council minutes etc) and hope to produce a paper on this early next year. I've widened out from imperialism to look at broader issues such as Exhibitions generally and the financial nuts and bolts of putting them on in the first place.

Again, I'd be glad to hear from anyone interested in this topic (I note on another thread that there has been some discussion of Liverpool zoos - that came up also at that time)

^^ That last pic reminds me of Prague.

In fact, there's two (& I was being a bit lazy, not posting the link earlier!)

http://www.20thcenturyimages.co.uk/trolleyed/3/18/123/index.htm

Stunning

http://www.20thcenturyimages.co.uk/trolleyed/3/18/139/index.htm

I can imagine walking up towards the Cathedral, on a cold autumn night. Never tire of looking at this picture :)

In fact, there's two (& I was being a bit lazy, not posting the link earlier!)

http://www.20thcenturyimages.co.uk/trolleyed/3/18/123/index.htm

Stunning

http://www.20thcenturyimages.co.uk/trolleyed/3/18/139/index.htm

I can imagine walking up towards the Cathedral, on a cold autumn night. Never tire of looking at this picture :)

Thanks for posting both links! It's the first time i've ever seen a picture of the house that once surrounded the cathedral.

again in response to complaints, 41 completely off-topic posts deleted now. hope this makes the thread nicer to read.

ged's post count will be below 2,000 by the time i've finished dealing with his verbal diarrhea. :doh:

:cheers:

While you're online, do something about the copyright infringement - you can start with posts 214, 241 and 243.

I have contacted the copyright holders.

While you're online, do something about the copyright infringement - you can start with posts 214, 241 and 243.

I have contacted the copyright holders.

i'm not here to take orders, mr.

if the copyright holders contact me or the forum owners.

please stop trying to police this forum- that's my (albeit temporary) job.