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TeLaVivi April 21st, 2005, 10:39 AM The Architecture of Moscow - from the 1930s to the early 1950s- Unrealised projects .
Taken from this website (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/index_e.htm)
Palace of Soviets. O.Iofan, O.Gelfreikh, V.Schuko. Sculptor S.Merkulov. A Version of the approved project. 1934 (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/03e.htm)
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/03.jpg
Рalace of Soviets (Dom Sovetov). B.Iofan, V.Gelfreikh, Ya.Вelopolsky, V.Pelevin, Sculptor S.Merkulov. A version of the approved project. 1946 (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/14e.htm)
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/14.jpg
The Hotel of the Moscow City Soviet ("Moskva"). L.Savelyev, C.Stapran. 1931 (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/04e.htm)
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/04.jpg
The Рalace of Technology. А.Samoylov, B.Yefomovich. 1933 (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/05e.htm)
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/05.jpg
The building of the People's Defence Commissariat. L.Rudnev. 1933 (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/06e.htm)
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/06.jpg
The building of the People's Соmmissariat of Heavy Industry, A. Vesoin, V, Vesnin, S. Lyaschenko. 1934 (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/02e.htm)
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/02.jpg
The building of the People's Commissariat of Нeavy Industry. I.Fomin, P.Abrosimov, M.Minkus. 1934 (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/07e.htm)
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/07.jpg
The building of the People's Commissariat of Нeavy Industry. А.Vesnin, V.Vesnin, S.Lyaschenko. Version. 1934 (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/08e.htm)
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/08.jpg
The Aeroflot Building. D.Chechulin. 1934 (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/09e.htm)
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/09.jpg
House of Books (Dом Knigi). I.Golosov, P.Antonov, A.Zhuravlev. 1934 (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/10e.htm)
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/10.jpg
"Heroes' Аrch". A monument to the heroic defenders of Moscow. L.Pavlov. 1942 (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/11e.htm)
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/11.jpg
Residental building on Vosstaniya Square. V.Oltarzhevsky, I.Kuznetsov. 1947 (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/12e.htm)
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/12.jpg
Tall building in Zaryadye. View from the Red Square. D.Chechulin. 1948 (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/13e.htm)
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/13.jpg
is this cool or what ? :eek: some of these projects are insane .
Jai April 21st, 2005, 11:13 AM Ahh... palaces of the masses
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/08.jpg
^ That one looks strikingly modern... if the face was glass it could be mistaken for a proposal today
IchO April 21st, 2005, 03:46 PM TeLaVivi, This is one of the best threads EVER released on SSC.
If you have some more meterial such as this one. I'm in Icho99@Gmail.com
And i'm in Tel-Aviv right now aswell.
Nick in Atlanta April 21st, 2005, 04:09 PM These buildings are about as hilarious as they are insane. This was all during Stalin's rule. I'm sure that most of these "architects" were killed in one of his massive purges.
The Aeroflot building would actually look kind of interesting. But the Defence building is an enourmous monstrosity!
Balikbayan April 21st, 2005, 06:31 PM The Aeroflot bldg is somewhat similar to the Russian White House (the one that was shelled during the coup against Yeltsin and repaired by Turkish contractors)
Thunderflip April 21st, 2005, 06:56 PM Wow, those structures look very imperial and ambitious!
city of the future April 21st, 2005, 06:58 PM Can't forget the monument to the third, internation which would hyave been round 400m
Frog April 21st, 2005, 07:28 PM shame these wernt built, they would have been amazing :(
Saigoneseguy April 21st, 2005, 07:50 PM Magnificient ...somehow insane but remember they date back to the 30s,and i think those Commie architects have already known that some plans were just vision/fantasy ideas,and they apparently didn't come up with that.
The 'House of Books' has a very prominent design,too.
Urban Dave April 21st, 2005, 08:23 PM :omg: They look amazing! Big, huge, massive.... All a good Skyscraper fan could ever dream! :rofl:
sturman April 21st, 2005, 09:25 PM Ivan Leonidov's proposal for Ministry of Heavy Industry (1929-30). It was to be situated at the same parsel as the Vesniny's project shown above.
It is often called a mother of all modern 'box' scrapers:
http://faculty-web.at.northwestern.edu/art-history/werckmeister/May_18_1999/1325.jpg
http://www.herringerkissgallery.com/photogallery/wsteinberg/Vidute%20di%20Leonidov.jpg
http://www.utopia.ru/animation/344.0.jpg http://www.utopia.ru/animation/344.1.jpg http://www.utopia.ru/animation/344.2.jpg http://www.utopia.ru/animation/344.3.jpg
http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/pics/leonidov/02.jpg
http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/pics/leonidov/01.jpg
http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/pics/leonidov/03.jpg
http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/pics/leonidov/04.jpg
http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/pics/leonidov/05.jpg
http://sturman.journ.msu.ru/pics/leonidov/06.jpg
Pedrillo April 21st, 2005, 09:58 PM Impressive thread! :applause:
Gatis April 22nd, 2005, 03:12 PM OMG, that Ivan Leonidov's proposal is great for its times! It would be cool if it still would be built - but not next to Red Square.
To my mind all this just shows that architectonically we still are living in era of Functionalism. Great thread, thanks!
ELV April 22nd, 2005, 06:32 PM incredible buildings!!!!
TallBox April 22nd, 2005, 06:47 PM excellent thread tel aviv!
a lot of those are pretty damn impressive - my favourites are Palace of Soviets (naturally), the Aeroflot building, and the Defence Commissariat
they should build those!!
lindenthaler April 23rd, 2005, 09:09 PM That s really one of the best threads ever, i d rather have this buildings than skyscrapers (except the first one, where instead of stalin can be another figure, and only when it s all is neutral, so non-communist)
Genç April 23rd, 2005, 09:21 PM Wow, some of those buildings are incredible!
samsonyuen April 24th, 2005, 02:37 PM Wow, great collection! Some of these would look pretty cool in real-life too!
_alonso_ April 24th, 2005, 02:55 PM that's what I call BIG commies :eek2:
rark April 24th, 2005, 02:58 PM i seriously wouldnt mind some of those structures being built :D
ChrisCharlton April 24th, 2005, 08:28 PM oo
ChrisCharlton April 24th, 2005, 08:29 PM Cool thread.
Really interesting to see the influece of deco on the mainly 1930's proposals. Also what struck me was the magnificence and status of them - seemingly at odds with communist values? What about the cars in the rendering, all looked very expensive and large, no signs there of the communist values of workers uniting - seems more about dreams sadly never realised.
thepoorman April 25th, 2005, 02:29 AM wow, temples to community. er...
coth April 25th, 2005, 01:13 PM here is more
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120441
doormanpoet May 23rd, 2005, 04:45 AM Absolutely amazing! The Soviet Union spent a lot of money on the space program and the cold war. Just imagine if all this had been built. It turns out that Communism fell and the cold war ended and nothing ever came of this beautiful architecture.
Chibcha2k May 23rd, 2005, 05:01 AM ----what a shame that they were never built, they are gorgeous
Ubo May 23rd, 2005, 05:14 AM Bleedin awesome buildings, especially the commisarriet of heavy industry building
some_stupid_nut May 23rd, 2005, 07:35 AM They really have some cool buildings! I think I like Stalinist architecture. It has that grandeur I'm crazy about.
satit28 May 23rd, 2005, 12:58 PM those are cool..........
imagine if they were built.............
what will moscow be like today..........
it'll be full of these beautiful buildings..........
Avatar May 23rd, 2005, 01:20 PM I'd have to agree, with many of you, this thread is fantastic. Thanks for the insight into proposed soviet architecture.
Some of the designs are so grand, so intricate and so overpowering, funnily enough I really like some of them. I will also concede some of them are remarkably modern for their time... amazing that that box style scraper was conceived 1929-1930 era - such foresight! Even teh House of Books buidling appears strikingly more modern than similar buildings from this period - with large opening/windows and less stepping, same too for the aeroflot building which uses large expanses of glass, not normally found in art deco period building elsewhere in the world.
algonquin May 24th, 2005, 07:00 PM reminds me of the Hitler/Speer makeover Berlin would have got.
http://geogate.geographie.uni-marburg.de/deuframat/images/5/5_4/kiecol/pic19.jpg
http://www.robsacc.nl/images/galleries/Grosseplatz05.jpg
Pim May 24th, 2005, 11:40 PM reminds me of the Hitler/Speer makeover Berlin would have got.
http://geogate.geographie.uni-marburg.de/deuframat/images/5/5_4/kiecol/pic19.jpg
http://www.robsacc.nl/images/galleries/Grosseplatz05.jpg
Do you have any more pictures? I'd be very appreciated.. :)
spicytimothy May 25th, 2005, 11:09 PM wow... such amazing architecture...
guess it's up to the Chinese now :-D
Sen May 25th, 2005, 11:42 PM I LOVE COMMUNISM!
M.Poirot May 26th, 2005, 08:09 AM The Aeroflot Building. D.Chechulin. 1934 (http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/09e.htm)
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/09.jpg
http://img283.echo.cx/img283/9126/bikkuri20wr.jpg !!!!
Oh Shit! Great Building! :eek2:
Blue_Copper May 26th, 2005, 10:12 AM Love the thread but the buildings are very ugly
metcalf May 28th, 2005, 06:37 AM To bad some of these biuldings were not biult, i thinkthat the shearness of them would havebeen amazing, almost brutalist.They would have been monumentsto the time and idea.
Gendo May 30th, 2005, 06:41 AM If this had a clock instead of the oversized statue, it wouldn't be bad at all.
http://www.muar.ru/ve/2003/moscow/images/03.jpg
blizzardic May 31st, 2005, 06:24 AM very impressive. expecting more
Leienaar June 1st, 2005, 02:19 AM Impressive buildings! That Stalin statue would have been the biggest statue in the world I guess? It is so huge that even the gigantic building under it looks rather small.
beiklopa June 1st, 2005, 03:36 AM its not Stalin's statue, it's Lenin's statue. there are plenty of the similar ones around the ex-USSR region.
sussucre June 27th, 2005, 02:40 AM very nice thread guys ! :)
Lenin's statue was expected to be 80m high.
but how would they have put it upthere ?!? :? :D :?
Küsel June 27th, 2005, 02:08 PM These pics are FANTASTIC!!!
Here some more of Speer's Germania:
http://ablecd.wz.cz/darkside/article/germania-city.jpg
The Südbahnhof:
http://faculty-web.at.northwestern.edu/art-history/werckmeister/April_29_1999/RR.jpg
Total Overview:
http://faculty-web.at.northwestern.edu/art-history/werckmeister/April_29_1999/Map2.jpg
The main Avenue:
http://faculty-web.at.northwestern.edu/art-history/werckmeister/April_13_1999/Berlin.jpg
The Stadium (blueprint was for sure Circus Maximus):
http://www.srcs.nctu.edu.tw/joyceliu/mworks/mw-onlinecourse/paranoia_se/ThirtReichArtIndex/Photo/245stadium.JPG
Fallout June 27th, 2005, 02:45 PM these are much better to most of what is built in Moscow (or chinese cities) nowadays.
sussucre June 27th, 2005, 05:25 PM well fortunatly these nowadays constructions in china or russia don't have exactly the same aim than Germania... these are not following the purpose of war... :)
Küsel June 27th, 2005, 06:03 PM Germania would have been built on the ruins of Berlin - not destroyed by war but by Hitler and Speer - parallels to Nero are obvious... Okay, what they did in central Singapore and in Barcelona (for the Olympic games) was also not the friendliest way ;) Or how is it now in Zimbabwe?
ferge June 27th, 2005, 07:20 PM If the main Russian tower with Lenin had been built It would of no doubt been one of the World's modern wonders.. It would be like putting ms Liberty statue herself on top of ESB or something, bizarre to imagine.
dave8721 June 27th, 2005, 11:32 PM Sure beats that giant pyramid thing in North Korea.
tommygunn June 27th, 2005, 11:44 PM the Russians like there statues.
empersouf June 28th, 2005, 12:29 AM I really wished al these buildings were built, I wonder why they aren't. No money probably?
sussucre June 28th, 2005, 04:06 PM Sure beats that giant pyramid thing in North Korea.
ya right, still not finished yet, this wicked pyramid !!! :D
lindenthaler June 28th, 2005, 05:34 PM ^^ yes it s weird, here is a pic
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/skward2/simon/large/dprk/hotel105.jpg
Küsel June 28th, 2005, 08:45 PM You can't judge it now - it's not finnished and maybe it never will be (financial problems). I saw once a very nice blueish glass coverage...
empersouf June 29th, 2005, 10:18 AM I like though it's ugly :)
worldwide July 1st, 2005, 11:11 AM i like that pyramid too, id like to se it in person
Gladys8it July 21st, 2005, 02:22 AM Wow, what an interesting thread!!
Some of those buildings are amazing, and amazingly massive. I'm going to generalize now but, it's funny how some Communist of Stalin's era thought that bigger was better.
Cheers!!
zergcerebrates July 22nd, 2005, 01:31 AM These projects look very grandeur and demonstrates the power of the country. Well remember this was before the war, if it was completed during 1930-1945 those buildings could of been bombed by Hitler.
aleph_null July 22nd, 2005, 03:38 AM Look at the Moscow now… what the hell happened? Thos are some really amazing concepts.
deli July 27th, 2005, 12:22 PM still mesmerised by the empire feeling... THAT is what communist world should look like.....
nagara373 January 9th, 2011, 05:00 AM Breitspurbahn
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/3000.html
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/images/barnes1.jpg
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the spliff fairy January 9th, 2011, 10:12 PM what a thread. ^what's with the dodgy Hitler railway^
the spliff fairy January 9th, 2011, 10:19 PM If you want megalomanical architecture, Beijing's had it for centuries:
The worlds largest square in front of the worlds largest ceremonial gateways of the world's largest palace
http://www.aasd.k12.wi.us/staff/lawrencebarbar/lawrancebarbara/ch26/26-05.jpg
www.aasd.k12.wi.us
http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/42629/2450619490071072569S600x600Q85.jpg http://www.meiguoxing.com/sitebuilder/images/An_aerial_view_of_Beijing_Main_Road_Changan_Avenue-600x428.jpg
http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com, www.meiguoxing.com
on the world's grandest axes - dead straight avenues crossing a city of 22 million built on a millennia old grid plan
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2934647050_90f8139a08.jpg?v=0 http://static-p3.fotolia.com/jpg/00/06/37/32/400_F_6373289_I5UmQrF0wAQOu4zzIw5a5CIyyfOjmNMv.jpg http://www.beijingyourway.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/000120_006.jpg
www.beijingyourway.com
and now surrounded by no less than 5 of the biggest ringroads (square of course)
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/images/2008/06/20/beijing_traffic.jpg http://www.thetycho.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/beijing-rush-hour-1.jpg
www.wired.com, www.thetycho.com
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3198/2966625776_5f12782deb_b.jpg
Massive streets hold massive buildings
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1277/200910264d17db9a124a650.jpg http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-08/25/xin_2820806260858921401111.jpg
http://news.xinhuanet.com
http://www.asiatravel.org/files/China/City/Beijing/DongCheng_District/Grand-Hotel-Beijing/Panor-Beijing_Hotel-Chang_An-Avenue1BT.jpg
www.asiatravel.org
http://www.beijingguide2008.com/lianhuachi_lotus_park/lhc139.png
www.beijingguide2008.com
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/National_Grand_Theater.jpg/800px-National_Grand_Theater.jpg
www.wikipedia.org
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/3088435031_650e2aefa0_o.jpg
Even the restored 'quaint areas' are still huge setpieces
http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad150/mimephotobucket/2008_Journey_2_China_part_2/F_DSCF7685.jpg?t=1270046235
http://english.people.com.cn/mediafile/200808/27/P200808271946161590820160.jpg http://images.travelpod.com/users/jirdgirl/1.1249564037.qianmen-.jpg
http://english.people.com.cn, http://images.travelpod.com/users/jirdgirl
http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv306/sablad2018/Qianmen--DaZhaLang-Liulichang216.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn247/heresjonny84/DSCF5311.jpg?t=1270046271
...as are the new ones
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/2654/chinap.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg113/foglio6/22-1.jpg
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/316/20092720491970129ek9.jpg
http://www.bestaudio.com/images/Beijing_Photos/aerial_view.jpg http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/82052888.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215ABF3343C02EA54860FF426541A5693DC629919EE873D2B2D8304ECC70EF8E5BE30A760B0D811297
www.bestaudio.com
http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oly_07_21/oly14.jpg
http://cache.boston.com
And it all comes to fruition on National Days
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/08/22/weekinreview/29682583.JPG http://www.chinasmack.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/China-National-Day-Parade-2-640x426.jpg
www.nytimes.com, www.chinasmack.com
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/china60_10_01/c01_20572561.jpg
http://cache.boston.com
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2872/c3120573299.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1283/c3620574569.jpg
joshsam January 9th, 2011, 11:19 PM Not communist but architect LE CORBUSIEr was real fan of maglomanic planned cities:
http://www.hbp.usm.my/CAD/LectureNotes/RPK%20332/FotoK2/Contemporarycity01.jpg
http://www.hbp.usm.my/CAD/LectureNotes/RPK%20332/FotoK2/Contemporarycity01.jpg
http://morrischia.com/david/portfolio/boozy/research/radiant_20city_img_3.png
http://morrischia.com/david/portfolio/boozy/research/radiant_20city_img_3.png
http://educ.jmu.edu//~tatewl/LE%20CORBUSIER/23.corbu.city.plan.jpg
http://educ.jmu.edu//~tatewl/LE%20CORBUSIER/23.corbu.city.plan.jpg
http://www.cityofsound.com/photos/uncategorized/aula8.jpg
http://www.cityofsound.com/photos/uncategorized/aula8.jpg
http://www.athenaeum.ch/images/Corbusier%20ville%203millionsg.JPG
http://www.athenaeum.ch/images/Corbusier%20ville%203millionsg.JPG
http://davidszondy.com/future/city/Corbu1925.gif
http://davidszondy.com/future/city/Corbu1925.gif
http://www.bidoun.org/images/06_corbusier_01.jpg
http://www.bidoun.org/images/06_corbusier_01.jpg
http://www.ecosensual.net/drm/ideas/le%20corbusier%20ville%20contemporaine%201922.jpg
http://www.ecosensual.net/drm/ideas/le%20corbusier%20ville%20contemporaine%201922.jpg
the spliff fairy January 10th, 2011, 01:07 AM ah, Courbousier's plan for central Paris - bulldoze the lot and replace it with highways and highrises.
joshsam January 10th, 2011, 10:36 AM ^^ Quite funny indeed :D
Nice pictures of the forbidden city...
Evil78 January 11th, 2011, 03:01 PM Although it's the biggest building in Europe, 2nd in the world, and heaviest in the world, the building was not even finished because of the fall of dictator Ceausescu, and his execution, following the 1989 revolution. According to the original plans, the palace should have been even bigger and heavier, with a few more levels, and a huge roof.
Palace of the Parliament, Bucharest, today:
http://locuri-unice.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/casa_poporului_0004.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2125/gfdgddgf.jpg
http://www.funromtour.ro/galerie_foto/poza_galerie_foto___2_8.jpg
http://www.cotidianul.ro/images/stiri/0510/1274693481casa%20poporului,parlament,sediu%20_DT.JPG
http://www.bucharest-life.com/media/pics/palace-of-parliament.jpg
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Original design:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/233/bucurestiul20in20anii20.jpg
A short film, showing the original plans (at 3:40).
M03ndPlLX2k
the spliff fairy January 11th, 2011, 11:25 PM also the great Latin American cities (Aztecs, Maya etc), at their time the largest in the world were THE most megalomaniacal imo
- vast ceremonial centres devoted to the art of public PR, human sacrifice and religious power, employing the world's largest
ancient structures:
they weren't hunter gatherers. The cities further south in Mexico were often the largest in the world by the AD 500's, it took another thousand years
to the 1500s before European cities matched them in size.
Tenochtitlan
http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/Anthro/Anth210/tenochtitlan.gif
www.vanderbilt.edu
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/aztecs/tenochtitlan-color.jpg
www.latinamericanstudies.org
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/TenochtitlanModel.JPG/800px-TenochtitlanModel.JPG
www.wikimedia.org
http://www.delange.org/TemMayor/Dsc00358.jpg http://www.postcardlanguage.com/tenochtitlan.jpg
www.delange.org
Teotihuacan AD500
The Pyramid of the Sun is only slightly smaller than the Pyramid of Cheops in Giza, Egypt:
http://www.travelvivi.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/teotihuacan.jpg http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/0b/34/a8/central-mexico-and-gulf.jpg
www.travelvivi.com, http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com
and the vast Avenue of the Dead that led to it:
http://www.bugbog.com/images/galleries/mexico-pictures-b/mexico-teotihuacan-2.jpg http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/50370069.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=E41C9FE5C4AA0A14DE1011A17B0AB71C7CA5C1C1A5902ECCEE1C37D6BFFEA8C6B01E70F2B3269972
www.bugbog.com
However these were dwarfed by other structures in the city
(Pyramid of the Sun at top of picture):
http://pix.alaporte.net/pub/d/13561-1/Teotihuacan+the+way+it+was.JPG
http://pix.alaporte.net
http://www.enotes.com/w/images/thumb/a/a8/Teotihuac%C3%A1n_-_Modell_Ciudadela.jpg/400px-Teotihuac%C3%A1n_-_Modell_Ciudadela.jpg
www.enotes.com
whilst the Mayan City of Mirador claimed one of the world's largest pyramid sites, 2500 years old and 2.8 million cubic metres (larger than the Egyptian pyramids).
If one were to include the massive stone platform it's built on, covering 18,000 sq. metres it would be the largest ancient building in the world:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YGLQQZTHoU0/Su6z8rpn_uI/AAAAAAAAKro/XS7F2cALrMY/s1600/mirador_progress2008_clip_image024.gif http://www.vanderbilt.edu/exploration/resources/elmirador_400.jpg
www.vanderbilt.edu
The palace-temple complex at its heart covered 2 sq. km
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YGLQQZTHoU0/Su64YTQ2yhI/AAAAAAAAKsY/qA4RdJy1yCM/s1600/3aventuramaya.SitioArqueologicoElmiradorLaDanta.gif
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YGLQQZTHoU0
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4278/2006016697a1.jpg
http://www.waterburyobserver.com/worxcms_images/El-Mirador-NGS.jpg http://www.pacal.de/tikal1.jpg
www.waterburyobserver.com, www.pacal.de
...however officially the largest pyramid in the world, at 4.5 million cubic metres (almost twice the size of the Great Pyramid of Cheops)
is the Great Cholula pyramid, most of it is still buried, and is the worlds largest ancient building
http://images.travelpod.com/users/jeschica/mexico_2007.1179975600.udla_029.jpg
http://images.travelpod.com
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AhY8dLICxPA/TEvDWzfua6I/AAAAAAAAAQ0/AkF6EKK1Og0/s1600/DSC03948.JPG
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AhY8dLICxPA
Marathaman January 11th, 2011, 11:33 PM :eek:
Adrian12345Lugo January 12th, 2011, 12:41 AM Some of those Images of El Mirador are actually of Tikal
This Image only shows how big the main structure is when compared to Tikal
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YGLQQZTHoU0/Su6z8rpn_uI/AAAAAAAAKro/XS7F2cALrMY/s1600/mirador_progress2008_clip_image024.gif
Scale Model of Tikal
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Tikal-Reconstruction4.jpg
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikal
Evil78 January 12th, 2011, 01:00 AM If you want megalomanical architecture, Beijing's had it for centuries:
^^^^ No, we don't want that! Not on this thread... We want communist buildings, which for some reasons never got to be built.:bash::bash::bash:
Why do you give us a tour of Beijing??? :dunno: Why do you post photos with skyscrapers and the Olympic stadium??? :dunno:
also the great Latin American cities (Aztecs, Maya etc), at their time the largest in the world were THE most megalomaniacal imo
:lol::lol: those were not "great Latin American" cities. I don't think they spoke a latin language at that time, and they sure were not "american" either.:lol:
Also, why do you post this here.? Those ancient pyramids have NOTHING to do with "never built" communist projects.
Concrete Stereo January 12th, 2011, 01:24 AM Well, I'll have to post them:
El Lissitzky's Wolkenbügel for Moskow (1925)
http://www.math.tu-dresden.de/geo/3D-modelling/DG1-04-05/perspektive/lissitzky_wolkenbuegel.jpg
http://141.100.77.202/lehrinhalte/Allgemein/Fachgruppen/Darstellung/Geometrie/Plakate/images/A1120%20El%20Lissitzky%20-%20Wolkenb%FCgel.jpg
eurico January 12th, 2011, 01:46 AM what a great thread!! I like it
dumbfword January 12th, 2011, 02:00 AM wow. Thread went from never built communist buildings to history. Who's gonna post Rome next?
Concrete Stereo January 12th, 2011, 02:50 AM wow. Thread went from never built communist buildings to history. Who's gonna post Rome next?
typical
after 5 years it got re-opened by nagara373 to talk about trains
and on top of that professionally derailed by the spliff fairy
blogen_ January 12th, 2011, 07:51 AM Those ancient pyramids have NOTHING to do with "never built" communist projects.
Never built communist pyramid with Lenin statue:
http://englishrussia.com/images/lenin_egypt.jpg
Lenin monument
Unfinished communist pyramid :
http://vanibahl.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/ryugyong-hotel-lg.jpg
Hotel Rjugjong, Phenjan - 1987
Existing communist pyramid:
http://www.domnik.net/photos/tp/07ru/isot/04/14.jpg
Lenin Mausoleum, Moscow - 1929
http://www.slovakia.travel/data/Resources/Upload/Images_watermark/KulturneAtrakcie/SucasnaArchitektura/D_BA_Rozhlas_jpg.jpg
Radio HQ, Bratislava - 1983
Ultramatic January 12th, 2011, 10:49 AM Man, some of you just can't read. The title of the thread is "NEVER BUILT" Communist monster projects. :ohno:
Evil78 January 12th, 2011, 02:41 PM Those ancient pyramids have NOTHING to do with "never built" communist projects.
Lenin monument
Hotel Rjugjong, Phenjan - 1987
Existing communist pyramid:
Lenin Mausoleum, Moscow - 1929
Radio HQ, Bratislava - 1983
Those ancient pyramids have NOTHING to do with "NEVER BUILT" communist projects !!! :bash::bash: WTF didn't you undrestand???
You think that the Lenin mausoleum was not built, because of the Aztec civilization, or why did you quote me? :dunno:
AGAIN: this thread is NOT about posting photos with communist buildings around the world, or discovering the main source of inspiration for the communist architecture! ...There are other threads for that!
blogen_ January 12th, 2011, 05:21 PM Easy! Anyway, we know very little about the Mayans. And if they were communist? Their civilization was collapsed... :lol:
urbanrecycle January 13th, 2011, 12:38 AM Well, I'll have to post them:
El Lissitzky's Wolkenbügel for Moskow (1925)
http://www.math.tu-dresden.de/geo/3D-modelling/DG1-04-05/perspektive/lissitzky_wolkenbuegel.jpg
http://141.100.77.202/lehrinhalte/Allgemein/Fachgruppen/Darstellung/Geometrie/Plakate/images/A1120%20El%20Lissitzky%20-%20Wolkenb%FCgel.jpg
Leonidov Belongs to "VKhUTEMAS" Russian school of architecture that was succumbed by the communist regime like Hitler Fulfil with Bauhaus
It has nothing with communist architecture
Mr Bricks January 14th, 2011, 12:24 AM Germania would have been built on the ruins of Berlin - not destroyed by war but by Hitler and Speer - parallels to Nero are obvious..
Only Nero didn't destroy Rome.
Concrete Stereo January 16th, 2011, 03:51 AM Leonidov Belongs to "VKhUTEMAS" Russian school of architecture that was succumbed by the communist regime like Hitler Fulfil with Bauhaus
It has nothing with communist architecture
Well, that depends how you look upon it, I suppose. In my view, it was succombed, but it had everything to do with communist architecture. The one does not exclude the other.
Malevich, the russian avant-garde, the UNOVIS group and El Lissitzky - what I understand of it - were very related to (if not primarely about) the search for a language to embody the revolutionary politics ('art in service of the revolution'). Important work of UNOVIS and El Lissitzky includes soviet propaganda and with Trotski it had a patron in the very core of the communist revolution.
Trotski of course fell out of grace in 1928 and Stalin's decreed in 1934 for Social Realism to become the official state-doctrine. But as of 1925, the architectural language of communist Russia was still in development, and very open.
Structuralism is not Stalinist, for sure. But I would say it is most definitely communist - early communist.
Manitopiaaa January 16th, 2011, 03:55 AM Stalin had quite a large ego.
nagara373 February 16th, 2011, 03:40 PM more links of Breitspurbahn (pics and websites)
Links:
http://nazidieselpunk.devhub.com/blog/category/dieselpunk
http://nazidieselpunk.devhub.com/blog/category/dieselpunk/page-2/
http://nazidieselpunk.devhub.com/blog/494006-nazi-super-trains/
http://storeagemsw.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/dfzthrthr.jpg
http://storeagemsw.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/rfgvrgrgrgeft.jpg
http://storeagemsw.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/scannen001328large29.jpg
http://nazidieselpunk.devhub.com/blog/497696-breitspurbahn-more-pics/
http://nazidieselpunk.devhub.com/img/upload//breitspurbahn19behltergfy6.jpg
http://nazidieselpunk.devhub.com/img/upload//broad1oq6.jpg
http://nazidieselpunk.devhub.com/img/upload//breit4sm7.jpg
http://nazidieselpunk.devhub.com/img/upload//breitspurbahn03vt7.jpg
http://www.breitspurbahn.de
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/3000.html
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/zukunft.html
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/modell.html
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/images/barnes1.jpg
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/images/barnes3.jpg
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/images/barnes4.jpg
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/images/breit1.jpg
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/images/breit3.jpg
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/images/breit4.jpg
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/images/museum1.jpg
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/images/lok.gif
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/images/wagen.gif
http://www.breitspurbahn.de/images/container.gif
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/DB-Museum_Breitspurbahn1.JPG
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/Breitspurbahn.html
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Breitspurbahn.jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Breitspurbahn%20Bild%2002_01.jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Breitspurbahn%20Bild%2004_01.jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Breitspurlok%20und%20Adler%20(1).jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Breitspurlok%20und%20Adler%20(2).jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Breitspurlok%20und%20BR%2001%20(1).jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Breitspurlok%20und%20BR%2001%20(2).jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Dampfkolben%20-%20Breitspur%20-%20Schnellzuglok.jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Gepaeck-%20Post-%20&%20PKW-Transport.jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Kinowagen.jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Orient%20-%20Express%20(Breitspurbahn).jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Schlafwagen%201.%20&%202.Klasse.jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Schlusswagen.jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Schnellzugwagen%201.%20&%202.%20Klasse.jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Schnellzugwagen%201.Klasse.jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Speisewagen%201.%20&%202.Klasse.jpg
http://www.3k-modellbau.com/images/Speisewagen%201.%20&%202.Klasse.jpg
http://www.csu-lichtenhof.de/bhf_m2.jpg
http://www.epilog.de/Lexikon/B/Breitspureisenbahn.htm
http://www.epilog.de/Lexikon/B/_Bilder/Breitspureisenbahn_f1780.jpg
http://www.epilog.de/Lexikon/B/_Bilder/Breitspureisenbahn_f1781.jpg
http://www.epilog.de/Lexikon/B/_Bilder/Breitspureisenbahn_f1782.jpg
http://www.epilog.de/Lexikon/B/_Bilder/Breitspureisenbahn_f1783.jpg
http://inri.client.jp/hexagon/floorB1F_hss/b1fha750.html
http://inri.client.jp/hexagon/floorB1F_hss/supertrain_X3_b.jpg
http://inri.client.jp/hexagon/floorB1F_hss/supertrain_4_b.jpg
http://inri.client.jp/hexagon/floorB1F_hss/supertrain_2_bb.jpg
http://inri.client.jp/hexagon/floorB1F_hss/supertrain_X4.jpg
http://inri.client.jp/hexagon/floorB1F_hss/supertrain_15_1.jpg
http://inri.client.jp/hexagon/floorB1F_hss/supertrain_15_3.jpg
http://inri.client.jp/hexagon/floorB1F_hss/supertrain_10_bb.jpg
http://inri.client.jp/hexagon/floorB1F_hss/supertrain_14_b.jpg
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/17/71/19681771/2_340833337l.jpg
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/5029/maphd5.jpg
Wunderknabe February 17th, 2011, 08:11 PM Oh dear, communist monster projects.
Just don't post nacional-socialismn-Stuff here.
Concrete Stereo February 19th, 2011, 11:42 AM ^^
why not?
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