dat pic just for example.. saigon might look like.

http://img245.echo.cx/img245/564/saigon5sz.jpg

So are they going to build the building on the far left of the picture, the Saigon Plaza, or what?

:)

The status of the Bonday BenThanh is unclear. The Saigon Plaza project is something that I've never heard of.

The Saigon Plaza Project: http://www.archetype-asia.com/Pro_Details.asp?id=192

I assume most of the projects in that picture are just preliminary plan only.

What projects in that picture will be built for sure beside that Bitexco building?

I wish I could be at the groundbreaking ceremony for the FINANCIAL TOWER. I want to be in Saigon right now in fact...might head back next Tet. We'll see.

:P

Should the Saigon Plaza be on the right side of the Bonday Ben Thanh Tower? Nice work though. Thanks for sharing.

gee that is a nice skyline.

I think dat must be look better than da 1st one..

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/9909/330871093lvemysph5zd.jpg

and the new urban plan opposite side, south saigon.

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/364/23025149thuthiem9ik.jpg

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/9391/traodoi8zf.jpg

i think it would be really kewl but i don't know where is the vinasin locate...

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/1503/vinashin7kc.jpg

or like dat one...

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/6392/saigon2wc.jpg

That Vinasin building is very unique...haven't seen anything like it. Ah, Saigon is going to be awesome!

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/6003/saigon8fd.jpg

just for fun

Ah, I see you've added the SJC building on the right...

:)

Good to see the Skyline of HCMC is developing as well.
How is the Tower called next to the Vinashin Tower? On my last trip to HCMC I remember to see just one model of this kind.

Saigon is changing and changing fast, but if anyone's interested in seeing its' past and the wonderful French architectures visit this website:
http://postcards.delcampe.com/categorie.php?language=E&cat=703
click on "Vietnam"
they have pictures postcard taken by the French during the old days. It's an auction page, so they update new pictures daily or weekly. They have around 3000 images of Vietnam in the old days, so narrow it down by just type in Saigon, or Hanoi in the search engine. You'll see big beautiful pictures of Saigon city in the old days (Hanoi, Hue, Cholon, Haiphong and other small cities too)


and another one:
http://www.postcardman.net/vietnam.html
pictures on this website are small but pretty nice, thousands and thousands of beautiful old postcards of Saigon in 1900 guys. So if you're not Vietnamese I encourage you to visit the two website, then you'll understand why Saigon got its tittle "pearl of the orient" and Hanoi with the name "Paris of the Orient"
ps. don't miss the architectures of Haiphong,....and other small cities.

Saigon Center u mean? Beautiful big green tennis court on site :bash:

no offense to anyone from Kuala Lumpur, Jakarta, HongKong, Manila, Singapore or anywhere in Asia, but "pearl of the orient" is a name given to Saigon by the French years and years and years ago, hundred and hundred year ago, and it belongs to saigon and saigon only.
so you can pick other logos for your cities like rich or gamourous, or gem, or diamond or crystal, or gold I don't give a hoot, but please leave "pearl of the orient" alone to it's official owner

Didn't see any tennis court in Saigon Center. In fact only the first phase of the whole complex being completed and that is the SC.

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/6003/saigon8fd.jpg

just for fun

i hope dat pic come true. lol

Didn't see any tennis court in Saigon Center. In fact only the first phase of the whole complex being completed and that is the SC.
The tennis court next to Saigon Center from an old photo I found on the web.

http://img201.echo.cx/img201/394/imgsg54hx.jpg

Saigon is changing and changing fast, but if anyone's interested in seeing its' past and the wonderful French architectures visit this website:
http://postcards.delcampe.com/categorie.php?language=E&cat=703
click on "Vietnam"
they have pictures postcard taken by the French during the old days. It's an auction page, so they update new pictures daily or weekly. They have around 3000 images of Vietnam in the old days, so narrow it down by just type in Saigon, or Hanoi in the search engine. You'll see big beautiful pictures of Saigon city in the old days (Hanoi, Hue, Cholon, Haiphong and other small cities too)


and another one:
http://www.postcardman.net/vietnam.html
pictures on this website are small but pretty nice, thousands and thousands of beautiful old postcards of Saigon in 1900 guys. So if you're not Vietnamese I encourage you to visit the two website, then you'll understand why Saigon got its tittle "pearl of the orient" and Hanoi with the name "Paris of the Orient"
ps. don't miss the architectures of Haiphong,....and other small cities.

Very interesting things! Thanks! Still looking for some good photos of the old Saigon train station, I've only seen one.

Very interesting things! Thanks! Still looking for some good photos of the old Saigon train station, I've only seen one.

These sites has many old Saigon Pictures

http://community.webshots.com/album/53317088TMhWjh
http://community.webshots.com/album/159609836GlVapa
http://community.webshots.com/album/120300999gAPXeo

the future skyline of hcmc is not unrealistic at all ( if u consider it in a optimistic aspect! lol)....i personally believe it will reach there in a not-very-distant tomorrow!! so watch out, foreigners...HCMC is becoming sizzlin' hot! it will definitely rule dah sky of tomorrow!! ( yeah, r8, wutevah!! hehehehe)

This website is dedicated to skylines and buildings, if you're interested..... join in, if not buy a rubber woman and stay out, no need to come and provoke other people!!!

This website is dedicated to skylines and buildings, if you're interested..... join in, if not buy a rubber woman and stay out, no need to come and provoke other people!!!
proX doesn't seem to provoking others. He's merely stating his opinion and even at that, he's quite positive toward Saigon's future. If anyone is provoking others it would be you. :bash:

Very interesting things! Thanks! Still looking for some good photos of the old Saigon train station, I've only seen one.

Try this website
http://nguyentl.free.fr/html/cadre_sommaire_vn.htm
main page (http://nguyentl.free.fr/)
look at the first and fourth photos

Actually Only Hanoi, Haiphong, Hue and Da Nang (or Tourance) had train stations built by the french with French architectures.

Sg train station is like a small bus stop, somehow maybe the weather condition in Saigon is not so cold like the north or rainny like the central part of Vietnam, so I guess the French don't bother build train station

:lol: haha...i found it so hilarious that quite a few people here often jump to conclusion so fast over comments that arent provocative in the first place. :lol:

pangu
let me transalate that statment for you

the future skyline of hcmc is not unrealistic at all ( if u consider it in a optimistic aspect! lol=laugh out loud.....)....i personally believe it will reach there in a not-very-distant tomorrow!!=sarcastic........so watch out, foreigners...HCMC is becoming sizzlin' hot!=sarcastic....... it will definitely rule dah sky of tomorrow!!=sarcastic ( yeah, r8=yeah right...... wutevah!!-whatever..... hehehehe)

please drop everything from here......I don't want to continue this

haha aight bang i dont wanna continue this too....r u currently living in saigon? a student?

nope was born there, but left since I'm eight, I graduated from school long time ago.....are you a student?

http://community.webshots.com/album/328307646znOzgi

just added a few photos of Saigon train station and other train station in Vietnam

Some people are simply too sensitive and read too much into others comments. :)

o wel, let me tell you, BANG dah reason y we couldn't get a subforum for Vietnam:
1st off. I'M VIETNAMESE ( therefore, there's no motive of me tryin to disgrace dah country where i'm from)
2nd-ly. i wasn't being SARCASTIC nor attempted to provoke any single soul in this particular thread. ( like u reckoned). and i really meant wut i had posted in dah previous post.
3rd. ur way too overpredicted and sensitive in comprehendin people words. WE'RE 2 DIFFERENT persons... i was tryin' to share my personal opinion...and i truly believe there's nuthin wrong with that ( or sarcastic). and u dont draw into the conclusion like u had above w/out knowing or at least fully understand wut one individual says!
4th. i myself like to be humorous sometimes. that's y i put some funny thoughts or "LOLs" in my post! and is that considered as a provoking act?? ( i highly doubt it?!)
5th. UR TERRIBLE AT INTERPRETTIN' PEOPLE' THOUGHT!
6th. we're vietnamese and we need to show others that we'r not that fiddlin' over small minded thing!

that's all i can say for now! and seriously, i was kinda gigglin to myself cuz ur way too "ridiculous" ( at least, i can tell it from ur previous spat). STAY WITH DAH REALITY!

P/S: @ the mod of this thread: would you please delete all the cranky comments, includin' mine? cuz obviously, dah focus of this thread is on future skyline of saigon..and those craps r kinda ...senseless! PEACE OUT, Y'ALL! i'm off 4 now!

OH BAY DAH WAY, FORGOT...IT SEEMS LIKE I GOT ALL DAH FAVORS FROM THE OTHER FELLOWS...AND.....something tells me that U DON'T...! SO WUT IS DAH POINT OF CREATIN THIS WHOLE NONSENSE!!!?? *chucklin*

Chill out guy, don't make a mockery of ourselves and let that Chinese guy pretending to be the mediator.

I guess none of these stations survived the wars... as I recall, there was nothing impressive at Hanoi when I went there. I have an old map of Saigon which shows the way the tracks used to run all the way to the old station, I'll have to follow that once and see if anything remains there.

The old photo of Gare Saigon that I've seen shows it as seen, I think, from the roof of the railway agency building on the opposite side of the Benh Thanh circle. It looks pretty good, actually, and the location is great. This photo was on the wall along the staircase up from the 9th floor of the Caravelle to the Saigon, Saigon bar. It's a bit defaced with the bar logo, but I will take a photo of it the next chance I get, and I'll post it here or in a new thread, too.

At ss.com, I've added a few under construction photos of Sky Garden at Phu My Hung. I need to go down there again...

Short movie about Saigon 30 years later since 1975 (20 MB + file size). Skip to minute 5:30 (or so) to show the current skyline, phumyhung with new bldgs.

http://222.255.120.38/media/2005/4/56654/SG-coso-1.wmv

thanks, thats a nice short piece of film

Yes, it doesn't work for me either. Maybe at night...?

Yes, it doesn't work for me either. Maybe at night...?
I just checked it and it still works. Just right click on the link and select Save Target As to download the file to your local drive and then view it from there.

It works. Thanks!

Well I could go on and on...but that's another song.....

I'm just wondering ....where's that Pocahontas come from anyway?
(I don't mean you Prox, since ya Vietnamese I got nothing against ya :)

Anyhoo back to mah Saigon skyline
does anyone have an update on the Rex hotel? are they building yet? Personally I think They should not build the Eden centre 30 storeys, they should demolish the entire block and turn it into a square..along with the Rex hotel too...that way Saigon cityhall will have a big square.....and they should remove uncle Ho's statue too (give it to Pocahontas hehehe)

Bang,there's a project which is similar w/ ur idea

...Đô thị yęn tĩnh - đề tŕi chỉ giŕnh hạng trung běnh trong kỳ tốt nghiệp ĐH nhưng lại được chấm lŕ một trong 5 thứ hạng cao nhất cuộc thi Kiến trúc các thŕnh phố thế kỷ 21 do Hiệp hội Kiến trúc quốc tế UIA tổ chức tại Bắc Kinh nhằm těm kiếm tŕi năng kiến trúc sư trẻ vừa qua. Điều nŕy giống như thęm một bằng chứng cho cái số ''tiền hung hậu cát'' của chŕng KTS 24 tuổi Phạm Tuấn Khanh tŕi năng nhưng lắm truân chuyęn. Đồ án Đô thị yęn tĩnh, một cái nhěn đột phá cho việc tái thiết khu trung tâm thŕnh phố, bước chuyển từ một Sŕi Gňn cổ duyęn dáng đến một TP. Hồ Chí Minh đẹp hiện đại lŕ kết quả sự giao thoa giữa trí tưởng tượng mạnh mẽ vŕ óc sáng tạo bất ngờ...

Phạm Tuấn Khanh chọn địa điểm xây dựng vŕ nghięn cứu đồ án lŕ trung tâm TP. Hồ Chí Minh. Đấy cũng lŕ hạt nhân cho quy hoạch của cả khu vực chung quanh. Cái khó đầu tięn mŕ người thực hiện đồ án phải đối diện lŕ lŕm sao vừa bảo tồn những kiến trúc cổ vừa định hướng phát triển đô thị trong tương lai. Phương án đưa ra khiến người ta dễ bŕng hoŕng : Xóa bỏ khối nhŕ thương xá Eden nằm giữa các kiến trúc UBND Thŕnh phố, Nhŕ hát TP, Nhŕ thờ Đức Bŕ, khách sạn Rex, khách sạn Continental.

Tuy nhięn luận điểm của Khanh hết sức vững chắc. Eden lŕ một công trěnh giá trị thẩm mỹ nghčo nŕn, nội thất xuống cấp trầm trọng. Thay thế cho khối nhŕ nŕy không phải lŕ công trěnh xây dựng mới mŕ lŕ một thảm cỏ xanh 100m x 230m. Thảm cỏ nŕy tạo ra một běnh diện đủ vŕ đẹp cho góc nhěn đến các công trěnh cổ. Mặt khác, khi có một không gian xanh như thế bao quanh, tự những kiến trúc cổ cũng bật lęn nét đẹp như ý đồ ban đầu của thiết kế thế kỷ trước, không cần đến tác động trực tiếp của xây dựng hiện đại.

Tuy nhięn, mạnh mẽ hơn nữa - điều mŕ nhiều người ngỡ rằng Phạm Tuấn Khanh... viển vông - lŕ ý tưởng thiết kế một thương xá mới hoŕn toŕn ngầm dưới lňng đất. Một khu phức hợp các hệ thống cửa hŕng, những dịch vụ công cộng vŕ cả một số đường giao thông cơ giới họat động dưới 7 tầng ngầm để giải phóng không gian tręn mặt đất, trả lại quảng trường, con đường cho người đi bộ vŕ những cửa hŕng, cửa hiệu chuyęn dŕnh cho việc mua bán, trưng bŕy các sản phẩm văn hóa. Khanh cho biết : Xây dựng các khu lięn hợp ngầm dưới lňng đất lŕ việc các nước phát triển đă thực hiện từ lâu. Tại Paris, 14 tầng ngầm dưới lňng sông Seine bao gồm cả trạm xe điện, chiếu phim... Tất nhięn, khi quy hoạch TP đến năm 2020, đồ án nŕy không hề lŕ ''nhiệm vụ bất khả thi''. Đô thị yęn tĩnh của Khanh được ban giám khảo các KTS quốc tế đánh giá rất cao ở ý tưởng táo bạo tręn.

What is the Eden Center?

What is the Eden Center?

Saigon Tourist is calling for investment in the large-scale Eden Trade Centre in HCM, area of 8,800 sq.m. Total cost is US$120 million. The centre includes a 32 storey five-star hotel, an office block, a 22-storey conference centre, an 8-storey shopping mall.

Read more
http://www.saigontourist.net/eng/news_details.php?newsID=69

http://www.qhkt.hochiminhcity.gov.vn/?p=van_de_noi_troi.php&uid=808
is this Dien Bien Phu building builds yet or it's just a proposal?


http://www.catholic.org.tw/vntaiwan/vnchurch/vnchurch.htm
photos of catholic churches in Vietnam if anyone interested.

Last year I went back to Vn and bought a big book "Catholic churches in Vietnam -archiecture history" it's pretty amazing to see over 200 churches and cathedral with French architectures. Never thought Vn has so much collection of French church buildings. But 200 is only a fraction of the total 6000 in all of Vietnam. Kind of expensive though 380.000Dong.

I believe the DBP site is empty right now. I believe that street will see a big boom, there are at least two other things planned in that area.

Where is the location of the Eden Center?

The database of this website make it so difficult to loggin on

Eden is proposed to build on the entire block right across from the Rex hotel.......so if they were to demolish everything, standing from uncle Ho's statue you can see Continental Hotel, opera house, Cityhall, Saigon tourist department store.
.........if they demolished the Rex hotel block we can also see the back of the Saigon revolution museum.
saigon_monsooner...... it's funny how great minds think alike huh? the down side is everytime I thought I came up with something great, or inventing something, it's already invented
I think other small parks like the one on Dong Khoi Street, and Saigon Supreme Court , should be expanded too, demolish all the small buildings and turn the whole blocks into parks instead of half the block, it's so unwholesome.

I'm shocked! That block has some really nice French buildings, and the scale is just right, too. I can't believe they would ever destroy them...! :bash: Please, don't make the same mistake that every other Asian city has made!!!

Yeah I agree, we should leave some nice and historic colonial buildings alone. There are so many 2 metres wide old houses in the city and I think they should go, making place for big, tall and spacious highrises.

Well I assume if they were to build anything new around the historic centre, especially the Eden it'll be French architecture (hoping) but I agree 30 storeys is too much.
while they forced the expanding Rex hotel to pace back 4meters from the cityhall, and even then they won't allow the Rex to build anything higher than the cityhall within 10meters.......yet KABOOM...... 30 storeys on the opposite corner.
the Vietnam government I tell ya....these officials need some slapping

these officials need some slapping

HAHAHA

but heh i agree the area around the city hall shouldnt be overly renovated. The would be bad to affect and damaged the scale and many of the beautiful and historical architectures around the site.

Yeah I agree, we should leave some nice and historic colonial buildings alone. There are so many 2 metres wide old houses in the city and I think they should go, making place for big, tall and spacious highrises.

I used to think like that too, but that wouldn't be good.
If they were to build anything big and tall, offices, apartment complexes.....I think it should be in the city's center, the suburbs, slumps, along the canals and rivers of Saigon.......
The rest of Saigon just leave it the way it is, don't turn the whole city into apartments and private residential vilas.
It'll be modern and clean no doubt, but Saigon will be very boring as everyone live in private houses and apartments and go to work in offices .......the street will be DEAD......and once the economy collaspe high rate of people will be unemployed.......whereas right now if you don't have a job or skill, ya can just open a small business in your 2-4 meter house and still manage to get by. they make the streets alive and visible.......I love the chaotic of Saigon. If you visit Saigon SOuth right now you'll see, it's nice and clean , but I just wanted to shoot myself......it's DEAD

Well I've always thought that they should build highrises in a newly created district, like Saigon South, Tan Binh or Binh Thanh for example.

I think if you have a huge cluster of residential apartments and build a market, shopping centre and entertainment complex right next to them then it should be alright.

Can someone identify the big building under construction on the far left? Is it the Hung Vuong Plaza - twin 29 storeys?
http://img201.echo.cx/img201/7826/imgsg6a5yx.jpg

Nice shot!

Close ups of the newly completed buildings on the right, and two more twins on the left, taken a month ago from Ben Chuong Dong by yours truly:

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/060505r2.JPG

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/060505r3.JPG

I found it on the web. Based on your closed-up photos, it's not the Hung Vuong Plaza. Do you have any picture of this project? It has been under construction for almost a year. TX.

Nice shot!

Close ups of the newly completed buildings on the right, and two more twins on the left, taken a month ago from Ben Chuong Dong by yours truly:

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/060505r2.JPG

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/060505r3.JPG

Which is currently the most expensive project in HCMC? "The Financial Tower", "Saigon Pearl", ....?

Which is currently the most expensive project in HCMC? "The Financial Tower", "Saigon Pearl", ....?

Financial Tower (1 tower) - 100 millions

Saigon Pearl (8 apartment towers and 4 office buildings) . The initial investment for this project is about US$156 million but the total investment is expected to reach US$300 million.
http://www.sunwahgroup.com/en/scripts/viewitem.php?itemid=news_1880406356

Saigon Sports City may be the most expensive one but I don't have the figure.
http://www.keppelland.com.sg/News2Q2003/2q2003_02a.asp
In consideration for the development rights, the joint venture will develop public sports facilities, at an estimated cost of US$12.1 million (S$20.8 million) over 10 years.

The first phase of the development is expected to comprise 250 units of high-rise apartments, and will be launched in early 2005. The estimated first phase development costs are US$19.2million (S$33 million).

Saigon Sports City
http://www.keppelland.com.sg/News3Q2004/img/pic_4a.jpg

Aerial views of Saigon
http://community.webshots.com/album/34397791GctYfR

Panoramic views of Saigon :)
http://community.webshots.com/album/328307646znOzgi
(this page is mine, but the photos aren't.......webshots has copyright policy.......so if ya like the pictures download them, because I will delete them on Monday)

The "Saigon Sports City" Project looks very good.
Ciputra is more expensive but not so good looking like that.

Titanic

Those are cheap apartments complexes.

Look to your right on top of the New World hotel, you'll see the 3 Thuan Kieu buildings......Hung Vuong 29 storeys is around that area.
last year I went back and visited someone in the Hung Vuong hospital.......walked around the hospital, I can see the Thuan Kieu and Cho Ray hospital on the right, and the Hung Vuong Plaza is on the left (of Hung Vuong hospital)
Hung Vuong Plaza is pretty big about the size of Ben Thanh market. it covers the entire block with 4 streets surrounding it. So I think they're still busy with the basement right now.

By the way...... the Hung Vuong hospital looking pretty cool, it used to be a run-down 2 storeys building, now it's a 5-6 storeys hospital.......the inside is pretty modern and clean.... I felt like I'm in an international hospital, didn't feel like Vietnam at all.

Bang, thanks for the info.

By the way, I found a link to the Bui Thi Xuan high school in Saigon in case anyone is interested.
http://www.hcm.edu.vn/truong/01FA02/01FA02coban.htm


Titanic

Those are cheap apartments complexes.

Look to your right on top of the New World hotel, you'll see the 3 Thuan Kieu buildings......Hung Vuong 29 storeys is around that area.
last year I went back and visited someone in the Hung Vuong hospital.......walked around the hospital, I can see the Thuan Kieu and Cho Ray hospital on the right, and the Hung Vuong Plaza is on the left (of Hung Vuong hospital)
Hung Vuong Plaza is pretty big about the size of Ben Thanh market. it covers the entire block with 4 streets surrounding it. So I think they're still busy with the basement right now.

By the way...... the Hung Vuong hospital looking pretty cool, it used to be a run-down 2 storeys building, now it's a 5-6 storeys hospital.......the inside is pretty modern and clean.... I felt like I'm in an international hospital, didn't feel like Vietnam at all.

I don't have any photos of the Hung Vuong complex yet.

Is Pasteur Court really under construction? All the newspapers imply that it is, but I haven't seen it personally, strange!

It has been for a while I believe. Here is the map from the official website
http://www.pasteurcourt.com/images/map_1.jpg
I don't have any photos of the Hung Vuong complex yet.

Is Pasteur Court really under construction? All the newspapers imply that it is, but I haven't seen it personally, strange!

NICE...this is the best shot of the area around Ben Thanh Market i have seen so far... :okay:

Where is it taken from?


Can someone identify the big building under construction on the far left? Is it the Hung Vuong Plaza - twin 29 storeys?
http://img201.echo.cx/img201/7826/imgsg6a5yx.jpg

Titanic98...can you post the website address of Hung Vuong plaza too

I found this photo on the web. I guess it was taken from the Saigon Centre.
NICE...this is the best shot of the area around Ben Thanh Market i have seen so far... :okay:

Where is it taken from?

I think dat must be look better than da 1st one..

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/9909/330871093lvemysph5zd.jpg

and the new urban plan opposite side, south saigon.

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/364/23025149thuthiem9ik.jpg

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/9391/traodoi8zf.jpg

i think it would be really kewl but i don't know where is the vinasin locate...

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/1503/vinashin7kc.jpg

or like dat one...

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/6392/saigon2wc.jpg


i see bright prospects for saigon. i believe in sooner time it would be at par with its asean counterparts. keep it up.

I only have articles
http://www.kinhdofood.com/rdincv.asp?tgt=vn/news/shownews.asp&newsId=80

http://www.kinhdofood.com/rdincv.asp?tgt=vn/news/shownews.asp&newsId=81


http://www.kinhdofood.com/files/hung-vuong_too.jpg
Titanic98...can you post the website address of Hung Vuong plaza too

I see they change the design of the Hung Vuong's a little bit.......the new one looks better.
man didn't know the owner was Kinh Do, for the time I'm in Vietnam I visited that bakery as much as I eat lunch, breakfast and dinner in Vietnam, they only sell bakery and they manage to put up a building like that?
next time i'm back I'll buy more of their products.......hoping they'll build 100 storeys building for Saigon

They really did it.You may recognized that's Vinh Nghiem:

http://www.tuoitre.com.vn/Tianyon/ImageView.aspx?ImageID=70749

http://www.tuoitre.com.vn/Tianyon/Index.aspx?ArticleID=77875&ChannelID=3


Do anyone knows his method?

Anyway,what have gone wrong with the "Saigon - The largest and most important commerical center in Vietnam"?? everytime i tried to post a new reply there,my computer stucks.Even viewing it makes my pc runs more slowly.

Anyway,what have gone wrong with the "Saigon - The largest and most important commerical center in Vietnam"?? everytime i tried to post a new reply there,my computer stucks.Even viewing it makes my pc runs more slowly.

Just ignore the nicks that posted the replies having many smilies.

^^ is it because you are loading pics?

no ....i think beacuse ya put smileys in his thread...I have trouble loading that too......what's wrong with you

oh sorry ..it was saigon skyline.......so many with the nicks saigon I'm confused.

no i see no smileys.....just an old warning from Chad of not using too many fck word,which dated back from months ago....is it dead?

here's an idea...open a new thread

Does anyone know what these blocks are? Between Dien Bien Phu and Dai Lo Dinh Tien Hoang in Binh Thanh...

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/080505r1.JPG

if they're beside the canal it's Phuong Nam apartments

Jaroslaw, the 2 blocks you mentioned are My Phuoc Apartment.
This project has 3 blocks (in your pic, we just see 2 blocks). Every block has 18 storeys. My Phuoc Apartments are the apartment for middle and low income person.

I thought there was a My Phuoc apartments in Phu My Hung; is this another one? Actually, I think it's Phuong Nam here... BUT that started construction only last December! Hm...

Here are some more photos of these apartments, from January. Just wanted to be on the same page. From Dien Bien Phu near the Saigon river, looking west:

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/05011.jpg

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/05012.jpg

March:

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/120505r15.jpg

From the Saigon Trade Center, January:

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/05013.jpg

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/05014.jpg

Now, I have a question about a couple of other buildings, just because I don't feel like going out there again... :)

From above Ben Chuong Dong, looking south:

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/120505r14.jpg

On Nguyen Tat Thanh (this building is on that street, I believe):

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/120505r13.jpg



Another one, looking north on the Saigon bridge into the city:

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/120505r16.jpg



And what about this one on Dien Bien Phu? It was completed late last year, and it's so cool!

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/120505r17.jpg

View from the Saigon Trade Center, with another building under construction, in April...

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/120505r18.jpg

Here, on the left I see a mysterious tall building...

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/120505r19.jpg

The view from the Saigon Trade Center, with the "Green Apartments tower" somewhere off of Duong Au Co in Tan Binh on the left, and that mystery building in the center:

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/120505r20.jpg

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/120505r16.jpg
This one is called "41 Bis Điện Biên Phủ"
Block A-B : 10 storeys
Block C : 14 storeys
More info in Vietnamese
http://www.xaydungcc8.com.vn/index.php?o=modules&n=sanpham&f=detail&id=711

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/120505r15.jpg
http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/05014.jpg
Yep, that is another My Phuoc (not My Phuoc in Phu My Hung), containing 3 blocks with 18 storeys (as you can see).
Not Dat Phuong Nam, because Dat Phuong Nam near my home, and it just being done the underground.

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/120505r20.jpg
"Green Building" : on Cach Mang Thang Tam street.
The other one: the first block in the 3 blocks with 22 storeys in district 3, near Nhieu Loc Canal. The two others had been started the construction.
http://www.rescovn.com/images/e_gallery/i8.jpg

<< Thanks for these. I saw the Green Building recently off of Duong Au Co, which is a rather poor street. The contrast was shocking!

This orange box is pretty gruesome. The building looks fine the way it is now. But it will become a monster. And I see that Saigon is going to become a high-rise chaos in ten years, no right angles, no clusters. Like Bangkok. The European flavour will be lost... I just won't go up to the Saigon Trade Center any more in ten years... :)

wow. colorful skyline.

From http://www.phumyhung.com.vn/

Park View 17 storeys
http://www.phumyhung.com.vn/gioithieu/pics/XD-Park-View.jpg
http://www.phumyhung.com.vn/data/nhadat/hinh_phoi_canh_parkview.jpg

My Khanh
http://www.phumyhung.com.vn/gioithieu/pics/XD-MyKhanh%204.jpg

My Khang
http://www.phumyhung.com.vn/data/nhadat/mykhang.jpg
http://www.phumyhung.com.vn/gioithieu/pics/XD-MyKhang_6-4-05.jpg

Anyone know anything about that white and green building off of DBP...?

And I can't find anything on the web about this My Phuoc Apartments, in English or Vietnamese! :bash:

Nice update about Saigon South. Too bad the English version of the website is never updated. But what is the difference between My Khanh and My Khang? To me they look the same...

How many My Khanh are there altogether? On the English website it says four, but there are maybe eight???

Here are some photos I took very quickly in January:

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/150505r1.JPG

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/150505r2.JPG

Here, GardenView is on the left beyond the edge of the photo:

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jaroslaw/150505r3.JPG

How many My Khanh are there altogether? On the English website it says four, but there are maybe eight???


I believe there are 8, four of twin buildings (I, II, III, IV).


But what is the difference between My Khanh and My Khang? To me they look the same...

My Khang and My Khang do look alike but I belive My Khang is the 2nd generation with better location and design (interior?)

In that last photo, the My Khang must be the ones on the right... they look taller, maybe they have higher ceilings.

My Khang and My Khang do look alike but I belive My Khang is the 2nd generation with better design (interior?).

I'll have to take a look. I am still pissed that they didn't let me take photos of the beautiful model (and the interiors) at the Manor sales center. :bash:

And the Saigon Pearl web site is still under construction! :bash:

But let's have a nice Sunday anyway. :cheers:

From http://www.saigonsouth.com/

http://www.saigonsouth.com/saigonsouth/File%20upload/Invitation%20Letter%20for%20Design%20Competition.pdf
INVITATION FOR THE INTERNATIONAL DESIGN COMPETITION

Some HighLights

Facilities required:
�� 4 exhibition halls, 11,000 ~ 12,000sqm each
�� Each exhibition hall can be partitioned to four separate sub-halls of similar size.
�� The four exhibition halls will be built at different times depends on demand.
- reception area of 2,000sqm
�� Hotels
- One 4-star hotel, 400 rooms
- One 5-star hotel, 600 rooms
- Will be developed in 2 phases
�� One 30~40-story office building
�� Convention facilities (conference rooms etc.)
�� 20,000 ~ 25,000sqm outdoor exhibition space

most of the apartments in Saigon south are penthouse.....or atleast 30-30% of the building are penthouse.......Don't know who came up with that idea?.......if anything I think each apartment should be 1 storey each........so building with 20 storeys will houses 20 famlilies :) in case of fire people living in those high high penhouses are in very deep deep trouble...,believe you me...... instead of 1, they have to run 2 times the height to escape fire......

What are you talking about? A penthouse by definition is an inhabited structure on top of the roof. Now, the word gets tossed around a lot, so that the top 2-3 floors of a building are called penthouses, but usually these are smaller floorplates anyways. But this has nothing to do with having apartments that have two-story ceilings in the living rooms, which is what I think you're talking about... Those buildings are rare, and I don't think there are any in Saigon yet.

<< There are two more buildings UC at Saigon South...

Khu phố Mỹ Phúc (Khu Cảnh Đồi, H29-3)

I think this will be three buildings, from 10-17 stories, but I can't find any rendering. The info from the Phu My Hung website has been removed. Is it sold out, then?

http://www.phumyhung.com.vn/gioithieu/pics/XD-MyPhuc.jpg

Khu phố Mỹ Viên (Khu Nam Viên, S13-1)ONLY NINE STORIES!

http://www.phumyhung.com.vn/gioithieu/pics/XD-MyVien_6-4-05.jpg

<< There are two more buildings UC at Saigon South...

Khu phố Mỹ Phúc (Khu Cảnh Đồi, H29-3)

I think this will be three buildings, from 10-17 stories, but I can't find any rendering. The info from the Phu My Hung website has been removed. Is it sold out, then?

My Phuc Rendering
http://img201.echo.cx/img201/5203/myphuc7qj.jpg

Saigon South look really great guys, nice landscape and tall buildings, please post some more pics I want to see it :)

From http://www.saigonsouth.com/

http://www.saigonsouth.com/saigonsouth/File%20upload/Invitation%20Letter%20for%20Design%20Competition.pdf
INVITATION FOR THE INTERNATIONAL DESIGN COMPETITION

Some HighLights

Facilities required:
�� 4 exhibition halls, 11,000 ~ 12,000sqm each
�� Each exhibition hall can be partitioned to four separate sub-halls of similar size.
�� The four exhibition halls will be built at different times depends on demand.
- reception area of 2,000sqm
�� Hotels
- One 4-star hotel, 400 rooms
- One 5-star hotel, 600 rooms
- Will be developed in 2 phases
�� One 30~40-story office building
�� Convention facilities (conference rooms etc.)
�� 20,000 ~ 25,000sqm outdoor exhibition space

Phase 1 is expected to be completed at the end of 2006. I'm not sure if the time frame is realistic given that a design has not been submitted yet and there are also other obstacles.

What are you talking about? A penthouse by definition is an inhabited structure on top of the roof. Now, the word gets tossed around a lot, so that the top 2-3 floors of a building are called penthouses, but usually these are smaller floorplates anyways. But this has nothing to do with having apartments that have two-story ceilings in the living rooms, which is what I think you're talking about... Those buildings are rare, and I don't think there are any in Saigon yet.

I understand what ya mean.......but what do you call those apartment style in Saigon south? I have no idea, so I had to pick them out from an article I read. The Phu My Hung: we will build luxurious , comfortable living standard apartments in the concept of penthouse.

I know penthouse, but the 2floors apartments in Saigon south it's so unusual....I think only New York and L.A have this kind of apartments.....from what I know there are 4floors apartment in New York

Hm, they are sometimes called duplex apartments. But I don't see the characteristic two-story windows in any case. Like here:

http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=263011

or here:

http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=207068

or here:

http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=326107

All of these in Chicago, by the way. :)

man I always thought america is the last place to do such things, especially now.
i love those old highrises in NewYork and Chicago....when I visited there I didn't paid much attention to the new modern skyscrapers.....they are big and tall and glassy and shiny.....but somehow the old highrises turned your head and made ya stand and watch em longer.
I'm not sure about Chicago, but in New york what I miss most is the pensilvania train station and the Grand hotel.....saw the pictures.....I think whoever detroyed them should be electrocuted.....crazy crazy lunatics

is it just me or does anyone here have this problem too
seems like everytime I came back, more new photos are downloading.....in the old posts....or I think my computer just slow hehe

You should take a look at your browser cache settings. If you download once, the second time should be very quick because the photos should be saved in your ~temp folder.

That Grand Plaza building is quite ugly, indeed. But it's dissolved within Chicago's huge boom now:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?threadid=18467

<--your browser might crash, careful there!

Completed in 2003 (?) by REE Joint Stock Company
http://www.hbpasia.com/IMAGES/Commercial/REE/REEOverallViewWR.jpg
http://www.hbpasia.com/IMAGES/Commercial/REE/REE021112FrontREleWR.gif
Web Site
http://www.etown.com.vn/etown_v2/index.php

REE is planning for the second office building tower in a nearby location
From http://www.archetype-asia.com
http://www.archetype-asia.com/photos/n/2004112411245190055482.Jpg

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/6003/saigon8fd.jpg

I hope this picture come truth.

That grey building on the left (Saigon Centre?), when are they going to implement phase two of the project?

That grey building on the left (Saigon Centre?), when are they going to implement phase two of the project?
maybe never.

seriously I don;t understand the investor of Sg center....they have the money for the sport city in district 2....the whole project comprises of 30-40 buildings of 20 something storeys each, and many villas and sport facilities, school, and they can't finish the 5 buildings of the SG center project on Le Loi street....last time I saw it, the entire site was clear, they use it for tennis courts and parks....
don't understand this one

I agree. Since office rental space is so pricey these days, they would make a tidy sum investing in the Saigon Center expansion.

Saigon Tourist is calling for investment in the large-scale Eden Trade Centre in HCM, area of 8,800 sq.m. Total cost is US$120 million. The centre includes a 32 storey five-star hotel, an office block, a 22-storey conference centre, an 8-storey shopping mall.

Read more
http://www.saigontourist.net/eng/news_details.php?newsID=69


Really???? Because the only eden center i know is Eden Center in Seven Corner (Washington D.C.) The second largest Viet Community center in the US

I think there are Edens in Falls Church, Garden Grove and Houston....too (?)

I wnat to send pictures but I don t know how to do that????

do you have some pictures of The Manor by Bitexco??

I think Saigon Pearl because they will built 7 buildings 37 storeys each

I wnat to send pictures but I don t know how to do that????

Visit the http://imageshack.us/
Then host the picture you want to send.
After that, copy the lastest link in that page.
Then use the "Insert Image" button in this page to paste that link.

dat pic just for example.. saigon might look like.

http://img245.echo.cx/img245/564/saigon5sz.jpg

God, lets hope Ho Chi Minh City will NEVER look like this!!!

yeah this skyline is kinda strange...

you're so mean
i'm the one who put together that imaginary picture

yea it look stupid

God, lets hope Ho Chi Minh City will NEVER look like this!!!

Yeah I agree! there's not enough pinky coloured buildings with light green tiles and baby blue window sills

that's skyline just isnt tacky enough

saigon park tower on the left maybe won't be become true because authories are arguing build or not build bacause it may make 23/9 park look very chaotic and lose a view of a center city just as it's too tall

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/6003/saigon8fd.jpg

It looks so ugly.

The title of this thread is "the furture of saigon" .
I think it should be "The Future of Saigon".

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/6003/saigon8fd.jpg

It looks so ugly.

Heys yu know the bulidings to the right where its has some pyramid and some white , blue building and a green building to the far end
Are those building gonna be true.
Or did you do that for fun.?
its nice.

some of those are proposed,some are approved,and some are never built.

Heys can yu make another one.
But this time only do the skyscrapers that currently being built and already built and those approved ones. Please?
I jst wanna see how it look like it.
oh and can i use yur artwork and post it on soompi?
I wanna show people what saigon might look like.
Its nice.

i still cannot believe that crappy cut-and-paste skyline of saigon is my artwork
maybe i jinx saigon.....now most of them don't build at all

I'm very sure that it will never become true until 2020 :ohno:

I'm very sure that it will never become true until 2020 :ohno:


You are too much optimist I'm afraid not before 2050, U know vietnam everything is slow and everything is not sure.

Saigon Plaza maybe never be built and the builiding on the right of Saigon Plaza is Saigon Times Square ( right ??? ) but I think its locate at the wrong site , it's face to Sunwah tower and in the future skyline will never have Vinashin builiding ( on the lelf behind Saigon Center )

"Heys can yu make another one.
But this time only do the skyscrapers that currently being built and already built and those approved ones. Please?"

I agree, can anyone make the skyline only include the approved, the being built, and the skyscrapers that already exist in Saigon?

How come which ever way I look at it, the Financial Building always looked out of place.

This is Saigon picture but HCM City has been building many of the projects. It's not only this picture. Thu Thiem, Saigon South, Thanh Da Binh Quoi, Cu Chi... will be new centers in the future.

My own plausible version of Saigon 2010:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1103/1380230508_64d15fb703_o.jpg

wow i hope that will be true

i see bright prospects for saigon. i believe in sooner time it would be at par with its asean counterparts. keep it up.

i think .vinashin " BUILDING :cheers::cheers::cheers: is located in HANOI or HAI PHONG not HA CHI MINH

vinashin is it the building with the "V" shape ?
that one is in Danang

every damn city in Vietnam starts with the same initial eh

My own plausible version of Saigon 2010:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1103/1380230508_64d15fb703_o.jpg

how long you want to wait to make the pic available??

it's the reality in his imagination of futured saigon: blank :D

The cost of petrol has gone up again, everything has increased in price, i think many contructions will be late.

from flickr

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/189/505640448_323bf2ff5e_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/505665669_b222a888ec_b.jpg

what it that building?i cant see the full bldg

sunwah & metropolitan. 2 of the most beautiful buildings in VN.

ho chi minh city has lots of potential it is the biggest most richest city in vietnam, and soon it will be turned into an it center. good work ladies and gentlemen!

Có ai ghép vài render vô skyline dùm tui dc ko??? :">

Don't worry! Saigon's future will be bright! Saigon will reclaim its old, historic, true name back and all the statues of uncle assHo will be torn down and all the silly red commie flags will be ripped down, then Vietnam will become a normal, civilized country instead of a clueless failed states like North Korea, Cuba, etc... Wow, how come this club is soooo sooo tiny nowadays? It must be so lonely to call oneself a communist these days! I guess the wave of the future wasn't Communist at all eh? :lol:

I'm curious don't Viet Cong ever consider how ridiculous they look to the international community when they wave the little red commie revolutionary flag and march around in their commie looking uniforms? I get the same feeling when I see commies in Havana and Pyongyang. I can't help to laugh everytime I see North Korean commies goose stepping like mindless robots so oblivious and ignorant to the world they live in.

Ok let's check out these old comrades of Viet Cong for old time sake! :)))

UMLtkp4AFkc





Merry Christmas to all forum members!

Heys yu know the bulidings to the right where its has some pyramid and some white , blue building and a green building to the far end
Are those building gonna be true.
Or did you do that for fun.?
its nice.

that is not just for fun
it's the SJC Tower in district 1
but that's not the new render of SJC Tower
In this website, it's the real and new
http://danong.com/Home/News/Kinh-te/2/20100722/8774/Chuan-bi-xay-cao-oc-52-tang-SJC-Tower.html

No little Viet Cong! Your daddy Viet Cong were friends of Kim Chee Jr.'s father, Kim Il Sung. Your daddy licked his ass first so I can't take that privilege away from you.

Why are Viet Cong so ashamed of being friends of their original partner in crime in North Korea?

Btw, there are lots of SOUTH Koreans in the Vietnam now! Kinda funny how the world works eh?

Who had the last laugh? Do you know the meaning of IRONY? Do you have the intellectual depth to comprehend that vocabulary word yet?

nobody cares

move on bro.

gl hf

Don't worry! Saigon's future will be bright! Saigon will reclaim its old, historic, true name back and all the statues of uncle assHo will be torn down and all the silly red commie flags will be ripped down, then Vietnam will become a normal, civilized country instead of a clueless failed states like North Korea, Cuba, etc... Wow, how come this club is soooo sooo tiny nowadays? It must be so lonely to call oneself a communist these days! I guess the wave of the future wasn't Communist at all eh? :lol:

I'm curious don't Viet Cong ever consider how ridiculous they look to the international community when they wave the little red commie revolutionary flag and march around in their commie looking uniforms? I get the same feeling when I see commies in Havana and Pyongyang. I can't help to laugh everytime I see North Korean commies goose stepping like mindless robots so oblivious and ignorant to the world they live in.

Ok let's check out these old comrades of Viet Cong for old time sake! :)))

UMLtkp4AFkc





Merry Christmas to all forum members!

So sad. They're human drones.

man, wish someone just shoot that dam bastard...(KJI)

nobody cares

move on bro.

gl hf

Au contraire! I think you care very much and that's why you feel the need to respond to my response to another poster on here. Viet Cong may have gotten re-educated in the last 35 years about the validity of a free market system which kinda make their original premise for waging war to impose communism look pretty damn stupid!! LOL. But such as life! Vietnam is still under a red Communist dictatorship but the dictatorship today does not exist to in order to create beautiful ideological purity of a workers' paradise but rather the dictatorship exist to enrich the party members, cadres and their family members. In essence they are out to loot and bribe as much as possible until the masses get so upset and infuriated that they overthrow the dictatorship. Hint, hint.... think Tunisia!!

It might come to Vietnam sooner than you think.

Vietnam's dictatoship is not unique to the world and like all dictatorships the VC kind has a shelf life and will die too. That's reality!

Kinda humorous to watch how upset the little VC children get upset when other Vietnamese overseas criticize what their parents do to the entire country of Vietnam.

Rất thú vị nếu sài gòn xây xong những dự án trên

Au contraire! I think you care very much and that's why you feel the need to respond to my response to another poster on here. Viet Cong may have gotten re-educated in the last 35 years about the validity of a free market system which kinda make their original premise for waging war to impose communism look pretty damn stupid!! LOL. But such as life! Vietnam is still under a red Communist dictatorship but the dictatorship today does not exist to in order to create beautiful ideological purity of a workers' paradise but rather the dictatorship exist to enrich the party members, cadres and their family members. In essence they are out to loot and bribe as much as possible until the masses get so upset and infuriated that they overthrow the dictatorship. Hint, hint.... think Tunisia!!

It might come to Vietnam sooner than you think.

Vietnam's dictatoship is not unique to the world and like all dictatorships the VC kind has a shelf life and will die too. That's reality!

Kinda humorous to watch how upset the little VC children get upset when other Vietnamese overseas criticize what their parents do to the entire country of Vietnam.

The human revolution taking place in Tunisia. This should be a lesson for the Vietnam party members, cadres and their family members to reflect on the happenings in Tunisia so as to make some positive changes before the citizens turn back and face them, then there will be no hiding place for them and their families to run. Throughout history most of what has happened has already happened again or will happen soon. A wise man learn from his mistakes and the mistakes of others and only few can reflect. God help Vietnam and its citizens.

By the way, what is the most recent GDP per capita of Saigon and Hanoi?