While we're (I) on the topic, what would all of you say are the most liberal cities/metros in the country? Aside from the traditional San Fran, Boulder, Madison, San Diego, and New York (I know these claims are going to upset some), are there any others that people know about?

San Diego??

You Forgot LA and Chicago

These are all the ones I can think of outside of Madison, NYC and San Fran.

Boston, Baltimore, Washington D.C., Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Miami, Seattle, Chicago. Portland, OR, Minneapolis, Milwaukee, St. Louis

Kansas city too.

Ann Arbor is very liberal too.

DC is not all the liberal metro wise, but the city is very liberal, that's the way a lot of the cities that have mentioned are.

Seattle
San Francisco
Los Angeles
NY

Boston, SF, LA, NY, Seattle

Cambridge, MA is one of the most liberal cities over 100k in the US.

Springfield, MA's metro
Dulth, MN/Superior WIS's metro
montpelier, vermont metro
Memphis's metro
Quad cities's(IL/IA) metro
MOntgomery(AL)'s metro

Just some guesses.

90% of DC voted for Kerry, which I guess is a pretty overwhelming way to put it. I'd say Baltimore is less liberal than DC, especially the counties around it. The DC area is pretty liberal while the Baltimore suburbs barely have a liberal lead or are very conservative (ie. Anne Arundel, Harford, etc.)

How about Austin?? Pretty liberal itself.

Detroit

I would say the Bay Area
followed by Seatle, L.A. New York, Chicago....

Yes, DC is extremely liberal, the maryland suburbs went to kerry by a lot, esp. PG, and Fairfax, Arlington, and Alexandria did too, it's the outer burbs went bush, but with towns like SF and Boston out there, there are much much more liberal places overall.

From personal experience, I've found that these cities fit the bill:

Portland, ME
Burlington, VT
Boston/Cambridge, MA
Providence, RI
Springfield/Northampton/Amherst, MA
Hartford, CT
New Haven, CT
New York, NY
Philadelphia, PA
Washington, DC
Cleveland, OH
Minneapolis/St Paul, MN
Ann Arbor, MI
Madison, WI
Austin, TX
Miami/Fort Lauderdale, FL
Lawrence, KS
San Francisco/Berkeley, CA
Los Angeles, CA

we are talking about metro not city, which makes it much harder to know

^ Since we're talking about metros, which are usually several counties combined, this map might help:

http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/PurpleAmericaPosterAll50_small.gif

It looks like the areas around Boston, San Fran and Minneapolis have the highest count of blue and purple counties, with very little red in the area.

http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/3d_viewpoint0.gif http://images.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/elections2004/_images/2004countymap-final2.gif

might help..

I think it would be much easier to discuss conservative metros since most urban areas tend to lean more democratic. Conservative metros are definately the exception

It would be interesting if someone could do a metro democrat/republican voting map and an unempoylment rate map to compare..........anyone anyone?

Unemplyment map=

http://www.bls.gov/lau/maps/aamarate.gif http://www.bls.gov/lau/maps/aacnrt.gif http://www.bls.gov/lau/maps/twmcort.gif

San Diego??


i was thinking the same thing

SD county isnt even majority blue?

52.6 for Bush while 46% for kerry in the last election.

You want to know what Liberal REALLY is??? Check out Canada. We don't even have right wing party that isn't more progressive than your Democrats.

http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/3d_viewpoint0.gif

^Awesome. If only St. Louis City had more pull...

You want to know what Liberal REALLY is??? Check out Canada. We don't even have right wing party that isn't more progressive than your Democrats.

Do you realize how many Democrats in the US consider you the Promised Land?

Hell, we're just waiting for God to open the waters of Lake Erie and Lake Ontario so Moses can take us across.

You guys are so damned civilized, so lacking in fanatacism. So near. Yet so far...

okay, show me a liberal Metro that isn't infested with liberals who are bend on a life of self education and touchy-feely goofy damned ideas, or maybe a city that was not ruined by the liberals themselves and thats why the cities are in such and economic retardation.

A. Berkley, San Francisco, Austin, NYC, Boston,

B. Detroit, Buffalo, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Toledo, Millwaukee


*considering Bush is a country hick texas cowboy asshole to all of you, he sure did find his way to the White house....AGAIN.

San Diego is about as liberal as Orange Co.

i was thinking the same thing
You will be surprise man, in the SD history back in the. early in 1920's we have a an area for nude sun bathing. Yes SD is still a military town but man this town is rockin! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Look it how Poverty leads to Liberal..

http://www.illinoisatlas.com/us/income/jpg/us_county_pov99all.jpg

http://images.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/elections2004/_images/2004countymap-final2.gif

Look it how Poverty leads to Liberal..

http://www.illinoisatlas.com/us/income/jpg/us_county_pov99all.jpg

http://images.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/elections2004/_images/2004countymap-final2.gif

Florida seems to be the opposite, the wealthy areas (northern transplants) voted democrat. The poverty stricken southerners in North Florida vote Republican.

There is a difference between liberal & heavily democratic. Many if not most of the cities I have seen mentioned in this thread are heavily Democrat but not liberal at all. They are statist or socialist. The ultimate liberal American city is Las Vegas.