Okey,
Let´s see who can post the most impressive high-rise skyline.

Here is Copenhagen from Emprios, In my eyes very Impressive.

http://www.emporis.com/files/transfer/sixwm/2003/05/195012.jpg

Yeey! .. you know this will turn into Vilnius vs Tallinn... dont you...

Oslo i guess

/\ heheh ;)

Yeey! .. you know this will turn into Vilnius vs Tallinn... dont you...

So you are saying Tallinn have some sort of skyline too? .. :D

:crazy:

:jk:

:crazy2: yeah hehehe :crazy2:

Okey,
Let´s see who can post the most impressive high-rise skyline.

Here is Copenhagen from Emprios, In my eyes very Impressive.

http://www.emporis.com/files/transfer/sixwm/2003/05/195012.jpg
your image isn't showing! :redx:

^
Emporis doesn't allow hotlinking.



Nordic cities: Oslo
Baltic cities: Vilnius / Tallinn, Tallinn / Vilnius -both are great and their pros and cons

Show photos, this is a photo thread! SHow me Oslo skyline

Why not have a skyline photo contest? We all like skylines, so having them all in one thread will be nice :)

http://img62.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Oslo%20city%20archive/Oslo_Panorama_1.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/24200800.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/24200828.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/24200830.jpg

Built over a millennia;)
http://www.pbase.com/image/26293054.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/26405504.jpg

http://people.pwf.cam.ac.uk/lls28/oslo/oslo9.jpg

http://gallery.bergersen.net/albums/album02/aad.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zanoni/image/25305991/original.jpg

That way--------->
http://www.abguiden.no/panorama/oslo_morgen.jpg

http://mishami.image.pbase.com/u11/ltobias/large/11065794.180802x7.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/29645042.jpg

http://www.visitoslo.com/pages/imageBankJpg/692.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx0789_450h_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx0842_450h_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/2005_nd_kicx2467_450b_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/2005_nd_kicx2369_450b_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx7579_450b_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx7279_450b_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx7400_450b_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx6558_450b_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx7578_450b_pp.jpg

I hope you liked the collage:)

http://www.abguiden.no/panorama/oslo_morgen.jpg
Yeah ... Norway defidentally has the best skyline in the nordic! Im not sure about the Baltics though ... i need to see some photos :D

@NorthStar

sure we did;)

just in my opinion, that Radisson SAS skyscraper is quite weird. everytime I visit it - I wish it would get some more "fat". hope, you got I ment:)

:D

http://img182.echo.cx/img182/2344/img8887filtered19ro.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Ok, i don't have any good photos of Vilnius skyline :)

Oslo definatly has the best one in scandinavia..

We've had this before, Oslo is second to none in Scandinavia.
Baltics? It all comes down to personal preference, so therefore, I'm gonna go with Tallinn ;)

I'll let the photos speak for themselves ;)

Copenhagen

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/cph_thread/cph_tr39_pano.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/129783.jpg

Conclusion: Copenhagen has no skyscrapers/highrises (clustered) to match the downtown of Oslo (and lets not forget about its perfect settings).
However, if church spires were to be counted for, Copenhagen would probably win. :tongue2:

However, if church spires were to be counted for, Copenhagen would probably win. :tongue2:

Who says they shouldn't be counted for?;) They make can make a nice skyline, and especially in Copenhagen!:)

^
impressive high-rise skyline

:)




Our skylineless views



The typical harbour view

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/tallinn/hesa.jpg


Slightly to right of it, the Orthodox church would be visible (copyright Niklas Sjöblom)

http://taivasalla.net/2005/2005-04/img/050422_1239.jpg

http://img183.echo.cx/img183/2790/rooftops1hz.jpg

http://img127.echo.cx/img127/565/dome5vi.jpg

http://img214.echo.cx/img214/1602/itamerentorihotellista4zh.jpg

http://img214.echo.cx/img214/8771/espoo11le.jpg

http://img24.echo.cx/img24/1181/south_hki.jpg


Southern skyline - get rid of the godawful fence surrounding the boats' winterpark!)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/south_hki.jpg

http://img213.echo.cx/img213/8181/kallionkulmilla4cw.jpg

View from the cathedral dome to west (Hotel Torni, Itämerentori and Keilaniemi highrises (70-82m) in the same pic) copyright: Niklas Sjöblom

http://taivasalla.net/2005/2005-04/img/050422_1300.jpg




http://img214.echo.cx/img214/5739/downtown5gw.jpg



http://img157.echo.cx/img157/3203/paasitorni3sm.jpg



http://img65.echo.cx/img65/1971/terassitalo.jpg




View to western inner city (copyright: sdes)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/SdeS/Lauttasaari/sitratorni.jpg




Northern suburb view

http://img145.exs.cx/img145/1369/suburbsnorth2nj.jpg



Western suburbs, some 10km from the center. Sadly two proper high-rises aren't visible here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/suburbs.jpg



Eastern suburbs of the city, some 10km from the center. Okay, the other building isn't finished yet. :D (copyright sdes)

http://www.sukkula.net/ssc/Herttoniemi/UpotusHyppyri.jpg






Here's a bad skyscraperpage diagram with some of the existing buildings and projects grouped together. Many churches and projects are missing.

http://img53.echo.cx/img53/4605/hesa5yw.jpg



Still, no contest here...
My favourite historical Nordic skyline: Copenhagen
My favourite high-rise Nordic skyline: Oslo

Here's a few Vilnius skyline photos that ive taken last summer:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/blimey_ltu/misc/147_4773.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/blimey_ltu/misc/3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/blimey_ltu/vln/48b0dfe0.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/blimey_ltu/148_4860.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/blimey_ltu/147_4780.jpg

http://img119.exs.cx/img119/6431/pfff2zl.jpg

http://img119.exs.cx/img119/6528/img11047fc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/ch1le/tallinn/urban.jpg

Oslo definatly has the best one in scandinavia..

yes, that's truth. blah blah blah..and Tallinn is Tallinn, blah blah blah...:blahblah:

:cheers:

wrong. Oslo could try to compete for no3 in thi s region. Vilnius and Talin are the favourites.

He's talking about Scandinavia, not S&B.

that's what I wrote:clown:

that's what I wrote:clown:
:uh: no ... you wrote "wrong. Oslo could try to compete for no3 in thi s region. Vilnius and Talin are the favourites." <---- It seems like your saying that Oslo is #3 in the region while Vilnius and Tallin are number 1 and 2 ... but DnH was talking about Scandinavia ... Vilnius and Tallin are not part of Scandinavia ... so ... i dunno ... this is a little confusing :drunk:

ah, come on. I just screwed up. please, forgive me.

/\ :cheers1:

Vilnius and Tallinn gets my vote, they look much better than any of Scandinavian cities, Vilnius looks great...

Few more. Almost same view point as in Blimey pictures, only taken today :)

http://img130.echo.cx/img130/7413/img8904filtered8fe.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img130.echo.cx/img130/7264/img8900filtered4eb.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

"Growing skyline" taken today - you can clearly see where project of two high-rises "the gates of Vilnius" is located:
http://img222.echo.cx/img222/5862/untitled22sr.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

holy shit geex... those are awesome... the skyline is great!

Business triangle and helios tower u/c. Quality isn't good because of lighting conditions. Btw, in this photo you can also see reconstruction of the oldest bridge in Vilnius.
http://img167.echo.cx/img167/7286/untitled32sp.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Here is how future skyline should look (in 2008). Marked only project's we know of so far, but i hope much more will be announced until 2008.

Red lines = Height of new building :)

http://img19.echo.cx/img19/9906/untitled29tz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

*Registru centras: should be 28fl high, but due to some protest's (yeah local "green party") height could be reduced.

*Telecomas highrise: they said they want to build 20fl highrise, but everything could change.

holy shit geex... those are awesome... the skyline is great!

Thanks :)

Have you ever wondered where SBA tower will be located?:
http://img113.echo.cx/img113/831/sba3ei.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

wow!!!! great pictures Edd and Geex, but oldest bridge over neris is Zaliasis bridge(16xx), it's just that it was destroyed and rebuilded many times

edd, could extend your panorama more and more?;)

Hey, if you started to talk about the best skyline in the future, aren`t you forgeting something? :D

http://img66.echo.cx/img66/5713/skylinefutura5qz.jpg

just a old render... i think made in 2003/2004, as you can see the maker of this had no idea what city plaza would look like, also not that the tallest building here is 40 storeys, its now reduced to 35 and ought to go uc soon ;) The black things seems to be tornimäe twins, the two others shown here is just a "starter" There are a dozen other highrises going up there soon

http://www.mrg1.de/DSC04166B.JPG
http://www.mrg1.de/DSC03412B.JPG
http://www.mrg1.de/DSC02086B.JPG
stockholm stands no chance on this contest

http://www.mrg1.de/DSC01904B.JPG
http://www.mrg1.de/DSC01226B.JPG
http://www.mrg1.de/DSC00315B.JPG
http://www.mrg1.de/DSC11119B.JPG
http://www.mrg1.de/DSC06522B.JPG

some of you guys - c'mon, it's TALLINN not talin or tallin!!!!






i like copenhagen.

For a modern skyline, right now I think Tallinn wins, though Vilnius may soon catch up. For a historical skyline, Copenhagen does it for me.

For a modern skyline, right now I think Tallinn wins, though Vilnius may soon catch up. For a historical skyline, Copenhagen does it for me.

Gotta agree with you on that one.

Most modern skyline in Scandinavia/Baltics: Tallinn (Vilnius as runner-up)
Most impressive skyline in Scandinavia: Oslo
Most historical skyline: Copenhagen

anyone got a good pic of stockholm's historic skyline?
it's quite good as well.

Well Vilnius historic skyline is not that bad too. I will try to find more and better photos :)

http://www.tourism.vilnius.lt/photo/photo.php?file=/Creme%20de%20la%20creme/_res/res_Vilnius%92%20Old%20Town%20-%20the%20Connoisseur%92s%20choice%21.jpg

I dont know... the best historic skyline ought to go to Riga or Tallinn ;)

heheh tallinn's historic skyline couldn't compete with copenhagen's... =)
but yea, riga's old skyline rocks as well!

its tough, they have 6-7 church spires... so has Tallinn ;) but they dont have a 40-50m Plateau ! ;)

Vilnius

http://www.random.lt/0.3.1/pica/_phoyo/577.jpg

Historical skyline in Copenhagen has one similarity to modern skyline in Riga - there are highrises, but they are spread around. Important part of skyline IMHO is good spot to look at it.
Historical skyline of Riga to my mind is among the best not only in our region:
http://www.inspirationriga.com/uploads/kjgkbgagjsfcfmtookzr419a4635874ad.JPG
http://www.inspirationriga.com/uploads/xchnwlskhcpcegmprnkz419a46bf31d80.jpg

For me:
Best modern skyline: Tallinn
Best historical: Riga or Tallinn
Best overall: Tallinn

wow Gatis... the first pic is awesome... i like that Academy of Science blends in so well.. looks like a church from far!

We need make this comparison system more specific. Keep in mind people that many have voted Copenhagen as the best NORDIC historical skyline and Oslo as the best NORDIC high-rise skyline.

Old Vilnius

http://img246.echo.cx/img246/416/15xx.jpg

For me it is as following

Best modern skyline in Baltics: Vilnius
Best Modern skyline in Scandinavia: Oslo
Best modern skyline in S&B: Vilnius (followed by Tallinn)

Best historic skyline in Baltics: Riga
Best Historic skyline in Scandinavia: Copenhagen
Best historic skyline in S&B: Riga (closely followed by Copenhagen)

And for me it's:

Best modern skyline in Baltics: Vilnius
Best Modern skyline in Scandinavia: Oslo
Best modern skyline in S&B: Vilnius

Best historic skyline in Baltics: Riga
Best Historic skyline in Scandinavia: Copenhagen
Best historic skyline in S&B: Riga is THE best :D

Best bodern skyline in Baltics: Vilnius (they have their angles)
Best modern skyline in Scandinavia: Oslo
Best modern skyline in S&B: Vilnius

Best Historic Skyline in baltics: Riga
Best Historic skyline in Scandinavia: Copenhagen
Best historic skyline in S&B: Riga

its tough, they have 6-7 church spires... so has Tallinn ;) but they dont have a 40-50m Plateau ! ;)

Mind you, Copenhagen has more than 6-7 church spires! ;)

okay sorry ;) i just counted them on one panorama ;)

Best modern skyline in Baltics: Vilnius
Best Modern skyline in Scandinavia: Oslo
Best modern skyline in S&B: Vilnius

Best historic skyline in Baltics: Riga
Best Historic skyline in Scandinavia: Copenhagen
Best historic skyline in S&B: Copenhagen

A few pictures of Copenhagen's historical skyline:

http://dest.travelocity.com/website/destinations/photos/267_209.jpg

The next one is very similar to the one Gatis posted of Riga:
http://ismb01.cbs.dtu.dk/gifs/cphskyline.jpg

/\ another:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/kbh.jpg

The skyline of old Vilnius is imo the most interesting in our region because there is very big variety of buildings who make up the skyline (I mean that the buildings who make the skyline are very different and have very different shapes). But the buildings who mainly make the skyline are too far from each other (they are usually concentrated in groups of two-four and these groups are far from each other). Also the buildings are not so tall as in Riga or Tallinn. In comparison in Riga buildings are concentrated and taller, so:

Best modern skyline in Baltics: Vilnius
Best Modern skyline in Scandinavia: Oslo
Best modern skyline in S&B: Vilnius

Best historic skyline in Baltics: Riga
Best Historic skyline in Scandinavia: Copenhagen
Best historic skyline in S&B: Riga

Here are some skylines of old Vilnius:
http://img249.echo.cx/img249/2889/panorama6fe.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img182.echo.cx/img182/8967/skyline6ws.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img194.echo.cx/img194/7428/skl18jc.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img162.echo.cx/img162/3006/untitled7lq.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

A couple of pictures taken from the observatory of Vilnius University, both modern and old skylines are visible from this point

The "new" skyline which, according to some, "ruins" the old historic spirit of the city (we all know that they're completely wrong though ;))
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/3238/img67184ld.jpg


Part of the historic skyline seen from almost the same point but to the opposite side
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/2299/img67282tz.jpg

Damn, we are civilised - no conflicting so far!

Some more blabla from me.
Regarding diversity/richness of historical skyline - @Edd is correct. Vilnius has many stunning, very diverse Barocco etc. buildings. Looking at Old Vilnius skyline is gives that "aahh" feeling.

"Medieval" Riga is dominated by very tall churches. Smaller interesting buildings (castle, Melngalvju nams, Dannensterna nams, smaller churches) simply disappear among these giants. Flatness of landscape and big concentration of Riga Old Town, and especially - waterfront - help to create impression but it leaves no way to appreciate smaller buildings.
Vilnius has hills which help to see a lot of medium/smaller buildings. Architects have used this possibility. For me the historical centre of Vilnius creates more metropolitan feel, than the modern centre.
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I think - Stocholm has quite interesting historical skyline too. But it is spread around.

Stockholm real skyline:
[IMG]http://misheli.image.pbase.com/u18/mark_elert/upload/15505623.1232373_IMG.JPG
[IMG]http://mk31.image.pbase.com/u18/mark_elert/upload/15505639.IMG_6804.JPG
[IMG]http://mk29.image.pbase.com/u23/mark_elert/large/11554858.Img_6778.jpg
[IMG]http://mishappa.image.pbase.com/u23/mark_elert/large/11554882.Img_6808.jpg
[IMG]http://mishilo.image.pbase.com/u12/mark_elert/upload/41509341.IMG_2731.JPG
[IMG]http://www.angelfire.com/ks3/monica/pictures/StockholmCity.jpg
[IMG]http://www.bigimage.se/web/Press/bilder/200409a01.jpg

Vilnius really is amazingly beautiful. I have to visit it soon..

Best modern skyline in Baltics: Vilnius
Best Modern skyline in Scandinavia: Oslo
Best modern skyline in S&B: Vilnius

Best historic skyline in Baltics: Riga
Best Historic skyline in Scandinavia: Copenhagen
Best historic skyline in S&B: Copenhagen

^^^
That shouldn't be difficult (and perhaps not expensive) nowadays, plus you'd get (most likely) a free tour guide :D

perfect :D

Skyline shot of old Kaunas from miestai.net:
http://www.miestai.net/images/zoom/CIFTIC/romualdas_rakauskas4.jpg

^^^
That shouldn't be difficult (and perhaps not expensive) nowadays, plus you'd get (most likely) a free tour guide :D
And not one, but 3 on minimum :D

Btw, pictures of Edd and Geex are just awesome (way better than my from the same points for sure).

So my rates are
Best modern skyline in Baltics: Vilnius
Best Modern skyline in Scandinavia: Oslo
Best modern skyline in S&B: Vilnius

Best historic skyline in Baltics: Riga
Best Historic skyline in Scandinavia: Copenhagen
Best historic skyline in S&B: Copenhagen

ohh yea - riga's old skyline is great as well!!!! (:

The best skyline in Scandinavia is STockholm's with out doubd

/\ heheh ;) from what point of view? Old or new?

The best skyline in Scandinavia is STockholm's with out doubd
i wouldn't think so....

Do you really think Vilnius' modern skyline is better than Tallinn's?

^^^ Can you prove it otherwise? ;)

Do you really think Vilnius' modern skyline is better than Tallinn's?There were different opinions - read posts above. ;) Btw, you didn't say your opinion here yet (although your opinion is clear for us :)).

Tallinn's one is too, how do I say it - plain, as you can see, it needs a 40 story(soon) and at least 2 30(yep) floor buildings.

http://www.zone.ee/friiklus/pildid/26marts/1.jpg

i have to agree with Obstacle.. Tallinn skyline needs what it is getting... Vilnius is awesome as it has a pinnacle building and nice height differences... thats why i voted for Vilnius, in the future 2006-2010 i think Tallinn will over take ;)

http://www.mrg1.de/DSC04166B.JPG
w00t! Brandesgången in da housizzle!
/if people have nothing to do while waiting for the subway quite a few check out KST :)

http://img14.imgspot.com/u/05/127/11/sthlm.JPG

http://img14.imgspot.com/u/05/127/11/galleryflight0016.jpg

nice pictures, thanks! i like pictures fro mthe air, got any from the other big cities?
http://www.raa.se/kmb/image.asp?id=71638&size=large
pic from the 70s

hehe, here are some more pics from above

http://www.algonet.se/~peogan/sergelstorg.JPG

http://www.algonet.se/~peogan/gamlastan.JPG

http://www.algonet.se/~peogan/kungsan.JPG

http://www.tyresodigitalbild.se/Bilder/Stockholm/Stockholm%20Webb/images/Stadshuset-20.jpg

and...

http://img14.imgspot.com/u/05/127/13/sthlm2.JPG

I have a lot of Scandianvian skyline pics on my own website:
http://skyline.250free.com/WTI.htm

I will post some of them here. I start with:

Göteborg skyline:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7146/Gothenburgpanoramalow.jpg

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7702/Gtbskylinebroarna.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9835/Gothiaviewsports.jpg

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5849/Skanskaharbor.jpg

http://img50.exs.cx/img50/5092/Gothiaskyline.jpg

Lund:

http://skyline.250free.com/Lund_skyline.JPG

Malmö:

http://skyline.250free.com/TT05ribban.jpg

http://skyline.250free.com/MalmoPANORAMAsmall.jpg
Scroll right!

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/3232/Malmooldskyline_pano.jpg

http://img75.exs.cx/img75/2140/MalmoskylineFP2.jpg

http://skyline.250free.com/Pildammsskyline.JPG

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2931/MalmoskylineFP.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3194/MalmoskylineFP_Centrum.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7505/MalmoskylineFP_Oresundsbron.jpg

http://skyline.250free.com/TTOresundsbronskyline.jpg

http://skyline.250free.com/Kronkonf2.JPG

http://skyline.250free.com/Kronstak7.jpg
I know they have been posted before, but I had to post them here to show Malmö's skyline.

Helsingborg:

http://skyline.250free.com/Helsingborgskyline.JPG

Stockholm (probably Sweden's best tower skyline):

http://skyline.250free.com/Stmviewskyline.jpg

http://skyline.250free.com/Stmview3.jpg

http://skyline.250free.com/Kistasciencetowermirror.jpg

http://skyline.250free.com/Stmviewskyscrapers.jpg

Taken by my old cheap digicam.

imo Tallinn pwns ;)
http://www.pildialbum.ee/picserv_files/view/4/894/6/2716v
http://www.pildialbum.ee/picserv_files/view/5/955/7/2937v
http://www.pildialbum.ee/picserv_files/view/5/765/9/2839v

Copenhagen (probably Scandinavia's best skyline with all the old towers and some modern highrises in the city center):

http://skyline.250free.com/Copenhagen_skylinepanosmall.jpg

http://skyline.250free.com/Copenhagen_panoramasmall.jpg

http://skyline.250free.com/Copenhagen_south_skyline.jpg

http://skyline.250free.com/Cph_pano_canal.jpg

I don't have any pictures to offer but I offer you the link. It contains great aeriels of Tallinn, commiedistrict Lasnam2e and so on. Here,s the link I hope you enjoy ;)

http://www.pressifoto.ee/series.php?id=13

My town only got two things which you really can see from far away and that the chatedral and the castle (and some smelly factories) :(
http://www.tiundaskolan.uppsala.se/vbilder/var6.jpg
http://hem.bredband.net/tukler1/bilder_jpeg/1292-07.jpg
http://hem.bredband.net/tukler1/bilder_jpeg/1292-09.jpg
http://hem.bredband.net/tukler1/bilder_jpeg/1315-20.jpg
http://hem.bredband.net/tukler1/bilder_jpeg/1311-03.jpg

made one crappy pic of Vilnius skyline after ~3 years with projects i know, proportions and high may be a bit inncorect (photo taken by Geex? i think :) )
http://img267.echo.cx/img267/5594/12310ob.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

^^^ Nice. :okay: But I think that it might be optimistic version, because of heritage protectors and new laws. :( I hope I'm wrong though.

Thanks, pablonis.

Have you seen this one? :) (both made by aiwa)

According to known projects
http://img271.echo.cx/img271/4783/vilniusskylinefuterreal0eb.jpg

According to development plan
http://img7.echo.cx/img7/2447/vilniusskylinepagalplana7tt.jpg

BTW how about Hansa HQ? When they plan to start construction works?

^^^ I think the negotiations and detail plan must finalized first. IMO it shouldn't happen in a year or earlier.

A part of future skyline of Kaunas (Domus Mea and Gintariskes) made by the same genius @Aiwa:)

http://img259.echo.cx/img259/3858/kaunasskyline20102qi.jpg

Borlänge skyline ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/astro_miffo/Borlange/dagnyhusochbanverket.jpg

http://img173.echo.cx/img173/6073/crushvilnius2tb.jpg

tallinn with the projects i know of..

It looks like Vilnius, Kaunas and Tallinn will look like Manhatan in a few years :D

hell yeah...

http://img7.echo.cx/img7/2447/vilniusskylinepagalplana7tt.jpg
http://img173.echo.cx/img173/6073/crushvilnius2tb.jpg

very nice :) :applause: :applause: :applause:

Let's hope the plans will be realized in the near future :cheers:

Stockholm is probably scandinavias best skyline but far, far behind Tallin

Stockholm is probably scandinavias best skyline but far, far behind Tallin
Hver sin smag :) .. I think CPH has Scandinavias best skyline, but like you said, far far behind Tallin.

and i think Oslo got the best one :)

and i think Oslo got the best one :)

Agreed ;)
The skyline of Oslo offers so much more than any of the other capitals in Scandinavia.

What Tallinn and Vilnius both lack at present, compared to Oslo and Copenhagen, for example, is a large, properly urban area around the high-rises. Naturally, that really doesn't affect the distant skyline views, but it shows when you stand on atop the high-rises and see plenty of green all around you as well as two story buildings. Of course both Vilnius and Tallinn are developing their areas really fast, so this will dramatically change as well when NCC / Snipiskes transforms and Tallinn's large patches of green area in the immediate downtown are filled. :)

Oslo
http://www.scamcity.co.uk/history/version4/images/oslo/oslo_13tn.jpg

Tallinn, see behind Uhispank
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/tallinn/uhispank3.jpg

Vilnius - photo (c) Romas
http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/romas/NMC/05220007.jpg

Hehe, I actually live some 300 m from this place :D

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/romas/NMC/05220007.jpg

Hehe, I actually live some 300 m from this place :D

http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/romas/NMC/05220007.jpg

whaaaaaaaaat toni?!?!?!?

you wanna fill all the nice parks in the downtown?!?! the one you see behind ühispank is politseipark / police park - one of the biggest and nicest in the center of tallinn!

(and if you were talking about the 'patches of green' in the further distance, then... these are kadriorg and pirita, 2 of the most pretty districts in tallinn.)

so a modern downtown should be only of concrete/glass/steel?? mh...

Ofcourse you need parks, but what I think Ober is missing is a more urban street-pattern, like this(from Oslo ofcourse ;)) (c) erikengen.com
http://www.erikengen.com/modules/gallery/albums/album11/sentrum.jpg

an urban street pattern, yes, tallinn doesn't really have it. all streets (with few exceptions) have developed historically...

What Tallinn and Vilnius both lack at present, compared to Oslo and Copenhagen, for example, is a large, properly urban area around the high-rises. Naturally, that really doesn't affect the distant skyline views, but it shows when you stand on atop the high-rises and see plenty of green all around you as well as two story buildings. Of course both Vilnius and Tallinn are developing their areas really fast, so this will dramatically change as well when NCC / Snipiskes transforms and Tallinn's large patches of green area in the immediate downtown are filled. :)

Oslo
http://www.scamcity.co.uk/history/version4/images/oslo/oslo_13tn.jpg

Tallinn, see behind Uhispank
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/tallinn/uhispank3.jpg

Vilnius - photo (c) Romas
http://img63.photobucket.com/albums/v193/romas/NMC/05220007.jpg

well, i have to agree with you, but it isnt dependant on me and you and developers. Those green patches, as Jarmo already said, are parks - not just woodlands, but parks with fountains, pathways, lighting. the surrounding areas are densening though. There isnt MUCH room in Tallinn anymore, just the harbourarea! But dont worry, we are also demolishing and densifying the area around scrapers! :)
about Urban street pattern - those in oslo and elsewhere were developed in the sixties right? When noone pretty much cared of Heritage. Not much took place in Tallinn those days. and Suggesting a grid network now would be ludricous :)

whaaaaaaaaat toni?!?!?!?

you wanna fill all the nice parks in the downtown?!?! the one you see behind ühispank is politseipark / police park - one of the biggest and nicest in the center of tallinn!

(and if you were talking about the 'patches of green' in the further distance, then... these are kadriorg and pirita, 2 of the most pretty districts in tallinn.)

so a modern downtown should be only of concrete/glass/steel?? mh...

Eh, sorry, man! I explained myself really badly. It's hard to explain it well. NorthStar was right, Tallinn's way isn't very coherent: there's green in the downtown where it shouldn't be and not enough trees in some other places.

I wasn't specifically referring to area behind Uhispank with my comment, I just used the photo to illustrate how Tallinn has very un-urban areas in the heart of Keskilinn, while some places of it are just as urban as much larger cities of the world. My comment was rather "generic" reference. :)

A better example picture would've been this, as it illustrates how quickly downtownish feel of Tallinn disappears when you take few steps away from high-rises: img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/tallinn/viru.jpg
Once Rottermanni and harbour area in general get makeover, it changes the view for much better-- and the entire atmosphere of the city.


As what comes to other parts of Tallinn's downtown, this is exactly how I would like to see it look like:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/tallinn/cityplazavaihtoehto.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/tallinn/uhispank6.jpg

Old small-scale buildings mixed with high-rises with trees here and there.



Another example of good urbanism in Tallinn would be the surroundings of Freedom Square
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/tallinn/olumpia3.jpg
Enough urban, yet enough humane at the same time (the picture doesn't convey the feeling quite right, though -- it's different in real-life)





I find it much much more humane (and "modern") than this "let's build everything anew"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/oberleutnant/tallinn/downtown.jpg

While I like the look of that street with Viru Keskus on the other side, City Plaza and Radisson rising in the background, it at the same time lacks soul. Adding few trees to the sidewalk, putting few brushes there, changing those lamp posts with less typical ones would really make it look better. And we're nothing talking about major change. This photo is from Jyväskylä, near its very small downtown, but they've done these small things and it has surprisingly noticeable effect: http://img76.echo.cx/img76/9454/tulovayla1nu.jpg


I notice how garbled my text is, so please, ask for clarification and I'll try to deliver it. ;)

It looks like Vilnius, Kaunas and Tallinn will look like Manhatan in a few years :D

I'm sorry to inform you that none of those cities, or any city in S&B will ever look like Manhattan;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/new%20york/P1010179.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/new%20york/P1010159.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/new%20york/P1010166.jpg

@NorthStar, you are wrong. Just a bit more and we will take over Manhattan here ;)
j/k

Regarding the city planning and the view around highrises.
-
Here the situation is very conflicting. In Europe there has been approach that business district should be moved outside centrum, otherwise it "disturbs" the view of historical city.
All three Baltic capitals have World Heritage monuments and any attempt to create views where "old meets new" or "old gradually turns into new" will meet international pressure. Thus all three capital cities have found for their business districts a "silent, undeveloped place near centrum but not disturbing the view on centrum".
The New centre of Tallinn is well included in the existing city fabric and Estonians need less time and effort to "urbanise" it. They need just gradual reconstruction and densification of several existing quartals around.
Vilnius and Riga have a bit different situation. Here highrise districts are coming to "fresh", semi-abandoned areas, which before development looked... just bad.
It will take time before they become integral parts of the cities visually and mentally.

Kipsala highrise district (Riga) is surrounded by very green area:
http://img139.echo.cx/img139/2172/22akropolesvieta31mai051qk.jpg

http://img133.echo.cx/img133/1420/18uzvarasparks31mai052nx.jpg
This green cover thousands of nice buildings with typical perimetral quartal planning. I hope, it will never be different, just the ugly houses will disappear.

Thanks for the insight.

And I look forward to the day the Baltic capitals look like Manhattan :D :jk:

ok, thanks for explaining, toni (:

Not even with all the cities of S&B combined into a one big happy agglomerate of Commieblocks and Swedish Meatballs would we be able to compete with Manhattan bwwaaaahhh :blahblah:

I don't know about you but personally I hope that S&B cities will never look something like this.
Some commieblocks here look better than some buildings in this photo:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/new%20york/P1010159.jpg

I don't know about you but personally I hope that S&B cities will never look something like this.
Some commieblocks here look better than some buildings in this photo:


But it is SO cooool!! :cool: If I were offered a job on Manhattan(and a free place to live:D), I would go!

But it is SO cooool!! :cool: If I were offered a job on Manhattan(and a free place to live:D), I would go!
I agree, That gray architecture and so on is kind of charmy too.

and i think Oslo got the best one :)
I don't get it, Oslo doesn't even have any high-rises except two!!
How can u think Oslo has scadinavias best skyline, both Copenhagen and Stcokholm smash it.

I don't get it, Oslo doesn't even have any high-rises except two!!
How can u think Oslo has scadinavias best skyline, both Copenhagen and Stcokholm smash it.

1. Oslo is the only capital with a cluster of highrises in the city.
2. Oslo is the only capital with jaw-dropping settings and natural beauty.
3. Personal preference.

Sorry, but Copenhagen and Stockholm aren't even close.

1. Oslo is the only capital with a cluster of highrises in the city.
2. Oslo is the only capital with jaw-dropping settings and natural beauty.
3. Personal preference.

Sorry, but Copenhagen and Stockholm aren't even close.
Stockholm has 7 high-rises in a cluster in city. and the stockholm skyline, from the express way shows 10 highrises. Copenhagen has a lot of high-rises also.

Oslo isn't even close.

Stockholm has 7 high-rises in a cluster in city. and the stockholm skyline, from the express way shows 10 highrises. Copenhagen has a lot of high-rises also.

Oslo isn't even close.
hmm ... funny you say that ... Oslo has more highrises that are above 100m than Stockholm or CPH.. (im obviously not including TV or church towers).. Oslo's 2 tallest highrises are Radisson SAS Plaza Hotel (117m), and Biskop Gunnerus gate 14 (111m)... Stockholms 2 tallest highrises are Kista Science Tower (128m) and Dagens Nyheter (84m) .. Copenhagens 2 tallest are Carlsberg Hovedkontor (88m) and Radisson SAS Scandinavian Hotel (86m) ... I think I speak for almost everyone when I say Oslo's Radisson SAS Plaza Hotel kicks the ass out of all of the other highrises mentioned above ... Oslo, in my opinion, has the best designed highrises, but I still like CPH's big old skyline thats mixed with both history and modernism ..

Please post photos, not just numbers. Numbers does not mean anything, for example in this photo you can see a cluster of 9 high-rises but somewhy ( ;) ) when we talk about skyline of Vilnius we post another pictures where the number of high-rises is smaller. (photo taken by Mantaz)
http://img182.echo.cx/img182/5048/imgp41563th1ey.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

So far from the photos which were posted if we talk about modern skylines, Oslo looks better than Stockholm or Copenhagen. That's my opinion from the side, since I have no relations to those cities and that's why I think that I am objective. ;)

hmm ... funny you say that ... Oslo has more highrises that are above 100m than Stockholm or CPH.. (im obviously not including TV or church towers).. Oslo's 2 tallest highrises are Radisson SAS Plaza Hotel (117m), and Biskop Gunnerus gate 14 (111m)... Stockholms 2 tallest highrises are Kista Science Tower (128m) and Dagens Nyheter (84m) .. Copenhagens 2 tallest are Carlsberg Hovedkontor (88m) and Radisson SAS Scandinavian Hotel (86m) ... I think I speak for almost everyone when I say Oslo's Radisson SAS Plaza Hotel kicks the ass out of all of the other highrises mentioned above ... Oslo, in my opinion, has the best designed highrises, but I still like CPH's big old skyline thats mixed with both history and modernism ..
First of all.
Yes, Oslo got nicer high-rises but they are too few, just two..Stockholm has a lot more high-rises and therefor I think it's much better. It's like to say that Malmö has the skyline number one if you gonna count how tall they are.

These are not bad (photos courtesy of olga @ Skyscraperpage.com). :)
http://img168.echo.cx/img168/2918/622.jpg
http://img118.echo.cx/img118/2286/tt10yf.jpg
http://img118.echo.cx/img118/395/tt28ci.jpg

First of all.
Yes, Oslo got nicer high-rises but they are too few, just two..Stockholm has a lot more high-rises and therefor I think it's much better. It's like to say that Malmö has the skyline number one if you gonna count how tall they are.

Please, spare me.
The highrises you're referring to are Hötorgshus and Dagens Nyheter, correct? What a joke, seriously. The highrise cluster in the downtown of Oslo is far more impressive.

Best skyline is definitely in Vilnus.
At the moment Helsinki dont have impressing skyline, but wait for few years and our Keski-Pasila will have great skyline. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/SdeS/sekalaisia/viriumkp.jpg
(Building in top left corner by Sdes, real design have not decided yet.)

First of all.
Yes, Oslo got nicer high-rises but they are too few, just two..Stockholm has a lot more high-rises and therefor I think it's much better. It's like to say that Malmö has the skyline number one if you gonna count how tall they are.
What makes you think Oslo only has 2 highrises?
Here are some of Oslo's mid-to-high rises:
Radisson SAS Plaza Hotel, Biskop Gunnerus gate 14, Radisson SAS Scandinavia Hotel Oslo, Økernsenteret, Rådhuset 1 + 2, KPMG-bygget, Stenersgata 2, and many more. All between 60 and 118m tall. So before saying shit like Oslo only has 2 highrises, check it to make sure its true or not.

http://www.erikengen.com/modules/gallery/albums/album11/DSC_3217.jpg

http://www.erikengen.com/modules/gallery/albums/album11/DSC_0473.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx0842_450h_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/2005_nd_kicx2369_450b_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx7579_450b_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx7279_450b_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx7414_450h_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx6562_450b_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx7564_450b_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx7223_450h_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx6473_450b_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx6671_450b_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx7578_450b_pp.jpg

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx6558_450b_pp.jpg

btw: completed highrises from emporis.com:
Vilnius: 189
Riga: 170
Oslo: 111
Stockholm: 110
Tallinn: 77
Helsinki: 53
Copenhagen: 35

What makes you think Oslo only has 2 highrises?
Here are some of Oslo's mid-to-high rises:
Radisson SAS Plaza Hotel, Biskop Gunnerus gate 14, Radisson SAS Scandinavia Hotel Oslo, Økernsenteret, Rådhuset 1 + 2, KPMG-bygget, Stenersgata 2, and many more. All between 60 and 118m tall. So before saying shit like Oslo only has 2 highrises, check it to make sure its true or not.
I was talking about downtown.

Please, spare me.
The highrises you're referring to are Hötorgshus and Dagens Nyheter, correct? What a joke, seriously. The highrise cluster in the downtown of Oslo is far more impressive.
Not Dagnesnyheter but Hötoghus and Kungstornen. They are 7 while Oslo scrapers are more impressive but just 2. Kista scinece tower is far more impressive than both of them but is outside city and doesn't any tall sourrounding buildings.

http://img118.echo.cx/img118/2286/tt10yf.jpg
my favorite "skyline" here.

just face it every fellow scandinavians. Scandinavia doesnt have any real skylines :P our skylines are pathetic :D The thread should have been named Baltic skyline contest

Emporis:
Completed High-rises over 60meters

Oslo: 8
Stockholm: 16
Copenhagen: 8
Göteborg/Gothenburg: 3
Malmö: 5
Helsinki: 5
Tallin: 6
Riga: 6
Vilnius: 10

My scandinavian favorite:
Stockholm "skyline ". This is the real skyline, what people actually see when they drive to stockholm.
http://img231.echo.cx/img231/6740/sthlmsky7005ie.jpg

Best skyline is definitely in Vilnus.
At the moment Helsinki dont have impressing skyline, but wait for few years and our Keski-Pasila will have great skyline. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/SdeS/sekalaisia/viriumkp.jpg
(Building in top left corner by Sdes, real design have not decided yet.)
Has it been approved yet or ris it a vision or a proposal? It's really nice

Approved for the most part. The look of buildings is far from final, however, as the plan in this stage only shows approximate heights and layout. The building on the left in that render what looks different is not part of Keski-Pasila plan, but independent project.

Keski-Pasila buildings
http://img10.exs.cx/img10/8060/kp2rd.jpg



Another development: Aviapolis district near airport
http://img90.echo.cx/img90/9931/aviapolisskyline8mt.jpg


Going by the current plans, there will be two larger high-rise clusters in Keski-Pasila and Aviapolis with several smaller clusters consisting of two or three buildings around. Good example of these is eastern-Helsinki

Picture and render by sdes
http://www.sukkula.net/ssc/Herttoniemi/UpotusHyppyri.jpg


Kivenlahti district (the building on the right is not built, will go u/c in near future)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Moolio/PerspektiiviVa1.jpg

A third building will also be built next to these
http://img214.echo.cx/img214/8771/espoo11le.jpg

and so on. Not enough to rival other cities, I think, but improvement over what we have.


@ Jarmo
Np, mate. :)

Originally Posted by DLL_4ever
What makes you think Oslo only has 2 highrises?
Here are some of Oslo's mid-to-high rises:
Radisson SAS Plaza Hotel, Biskop Gunnerus gate 14, Radisson SAS Scandinavia Hotel Oslo, Økernsenteret, Rådhuset 1 + 2, KPMG-bygget, Stenersgata 2, and many more. All between 60 and 118m tall. So before saying shit like Oslo only has 2 highrises, check it to make sure its true or not.I was talking about downtown.

Highrises downtown:
Radisson SAS Plaza Hotel - 37 floors /117 meters
http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx6453x4spc_750h_pp.jpg

Biskop Gunnerus gate 14, or "Posthuset" - 26 floors / 111 meters
http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx0719_450h_pp.jpg

Radisson SAS Scandinavia Hotel Oslo - 22 floors / 67 meters
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010026.jpg

Rådhuset 1 + 2 - 17 floors / 63-66 meters
http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx6473_450b_pp.jpg

From the left:
Clarion Hotel Royal Christiania - 14 floors / height unknown
Stenersgata 2 - 15 floors / 59 meters
Oslo City - 12 floors / height unknown
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/Picture007.jpg

Universitetsgata 2 - 19 floors / 56 meters
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010033.jpg

Shellbygget - 17 floors / 51 meters
http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/24172880.jpg

Regjeringskvartalet, 17 floors / unknown height
http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/9/meridianfoto/kicx7223_450h_pp.jpg

Folketeaterbygningen, 12 floors / 46 meters
http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/24172955.jpg

Keysers Gate 13 - 11 floors / 47 meters
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010040.jpg

Thonbygget, 12 floors / height unknown
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010025.jpg

Anker hotel, 14 floors / 38 meters
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/grunerlokka/P1010014.jpg

Hammersborg torg, 13 floors / 36 meters
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=156879

Did I forget something?

Oslo downtown is probably the most "big city looking" of all the capitals up north.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010026.jpg
I just love radisson :) the best one after TT ;)

Ober,how high will the keski buildings be, and can you see them from the city center or when you're coming by boat?

"Keski-Pasila. Cino Zucchi's outline plan was the winning proposal. Tallest building will be 91m at most, and there is around 5 towers of more than 60m. Construction will start by 2008 as there was a loooong delay in the Vuosaari harbour." -http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=203144&page=1&pp=20

In other words, not very tall. 22 stories will probably be max. height. The 26-story tower I mentioned earlier, Forum Virium, is seperate part of the development. It may breach the 100m barrier.

The 91m as max height for Zucchi's Keski-Pasila plan is conjecture, based on a newspaper article which said that "none of the planned buildings can top Cirrus' height." Of course, whether the newspaper author was referring to height over sea-level (+100m), we don't know.

How it will look from the harbour . . . not very well, due to topography of Pasila and surrounding city area. Only the 26 story would be clearly visible, more or less.

I am convinced that Riga will have pretty good skyline in 2010 already. By that time in Kipsala highrise district should be standing close 4 - 5 buildings above 100 m (Hansabanka, Vertikala pasaule, Akropolis1 and 2, possibly - also DAM Properties building) and several more above 60 m (Preses nams will not disappear yet, Vertikala pasaule 2 and 3, "Maja pie kalna"). I am pretty sure that there will be more projects announced.
In Skanstes Street area in 2010 there should stand three 20+ floors apartment buildings and at least three office highrises - two should be started in this autumn. This would be the second skyline in Riga.

Tallin is very cool but their buildings are to low.
Oslo is cosy but not so impressive.

For the moment Stockholm wins by far, it's the closest a real skyline we got here in the north.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3158/3046544570_8e91df7481.jpg

but the best special ingridients for a good skyline belongs to Malmö, Turning Torso is amazing. :cheers:

http://www.woonq.com/uploaded_images/TurningTorso11.jpg

^^Digging in the archives, eh?

I know that this thread is dead as a stone, but at least I made a try to bring it back to life ;)

Stockholm has different skylines all over the place in every direction.
Like this one looking from the north to south:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3477109030_b19752379a_b.jpg

Old? This building is currently changing colors for the second time since this photo was posted!:lol:

Anker hotel, 14 floors / 38 meters
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/grunerlokka/P1010014.jpg

I am convinced that Riga will have pretty good skyline in 2010 already. By that time in Kipsala highrise district should be standing close 4 - 5 buildings above 100 m (Hansabanka, Vertikala pasaule, Akropolis1 and 2, possibly - also DAM Properties building) and several more above 60 m (Preses nams will not disappear yet, Vertikala pasaule 2 and 3, "Maja pie kalna"). I am pretty sure that there will be more projects announced.
In Skanstes Street area in 2010 there should stand three 20+ floors apartment buildings and at least three office highrises - two should be started in this autumn. This would be the second skyline in Riga.

Almost true about Skanstes district - we have exactly 3 appartment highrises (and how did you know that 4th Skanstes virsotne will not be built :nuts:) and 2 office highrises - but those are scattered.
Sadly, far from the truth in Kipsala case - the skyline is the same as in 2005.... :ohno:

^^Digging in the archives, eh?

Who's laughing now? ;)
I have bringed this thread back to life, just as I promised.
:banana:

Stockholm has different skylines all over the place in every direction.
Like this one looking from the north to south:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3477109030_b19752379a_b.jpg

This is a very nice picture!

But we all know which city the future belongs to, right? That's Oslooo!!! :banana:

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Bilde238.jpg

Oslo
http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091117/tLA25kuqER.jpg (http://ipicture.ru/)

Oslo
http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091117/tLA25kuqER.jpg (http://ipicture.ru/)

Oslo isn't big enough to have the best skyline in this region, Oslo is just hardly bigger than Gothenburg.

So heres comes a picture of "Läppstiftet" a major part of Gothenburgs skyline ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Lilla_Bommen_in_Gothenburg.jpg

Oslo isn't big enough to have the best skyline in this region, Oslo is just hardly bigger than Gothenburg.

Based on which facts? :lol: And don't give me municipality numbers please..

"Läppstiftet" is cool though, but a bit too low.

:bash::bash::bash:

Population number has nothing to do with the skyline :nuts:

Portland, Oregon - 560 000 inhabitants:

http://colgate.imodules.com/s/801/images/editor/Portland%20skyline.jpg

Which facts?

-The area of Oslo is way to small to create a massive skyline
-You can't just build impressive building because you have alot of "oilmoney" left in you wallet, they haved to fill some function and be built for some purpose, and It's obvious that Copenhagens 1.805 million inhabitants and Stockholms 2.027 million inhabitants will need more skyscrapers than Oslos 876.000.

Oslo is a lovely city thou :D

Or perhaps an even better example:

Frankfurt: 651,899 (huge metro area though)

http://static.c4d.dk/images/image_17112009_225840.png

Wow, Frankfurt is getting better and better..:drool:

Which facts?

-The area of Oslo is way to small to create a massive skyline
-You can't just build impressive building because you have alot of "oilmoney" left in you wallet, they haved to fill some function and be built for some purpose, and It's obvious that Copenhagens 1.805 million inhabitants and Stockholms 2.027 million inhabitants will need more skyscrapers than Oslos 876.000.

Oslo is a lovely city thou :D

You use the metropolitan area numbers for Copenhagen and Stockholm, but only the urban area number for Oslo. So if you are comparing the cities you have to use the same definitions. Oslo: 1,4 million.

You talking nosense ;)

What has the area or poulation to do with skyline? Do you really think they are planning 500.000 kvm offices in central Oslo just to make a cool skyline? There is allways need for new offices in both Copenhagen, Oslo and Stockholm.

And compering region with urban area populations doesn´t make any sense

Edit: gluten
Edit 2: Frankfurt is awesome.

Those cities are not from Scandinavian countries, in fact they are from significant bigger economies.
Both Sweden and Norway are extremly rich nations, but skyscrapers is a sign of business, business are incomes AND costs.

USA and Germany has much more money in circulation.

You use the metropolitan area numbers for Copenhagen and Stockholm, but only the urban area number for Oslo. So if you are comparing the cities you have to use the same definitions. Oslo: 1,4 million.

My bad, Oslo: 1.4 millions

It's about how the planners plan the cities. Not the population number. Rome has more than 2,7 million people, but not a single skyscraper.

You use the metropolitan area numbers for Copenhagen and Stockholm, but only the urban area number for Oslo. So if you are comparing the cities you have to use the same definitions. Oslo: 1,4 million.
Exactly and even then most skyscrapers are for office or hotel use - so I would actually say that Norway's strong economy is a benefit for more skyscrapers.

Also you don't need skyscrapers, they're just more practical and in our views beautiful. Europe isn't a skyscraper continent, except a few big cities - it's more our culture than population or economy..

Thats explains why they are buidling more highrises in the baltic:shifty:

Wow, Frankfurt is getting better and better..:drool:
It is Frankfurt right? :happy: It almost looks too good..

Those cities are not from Scandinavian countries, in fact they are from significant bigger economies.
Both Sweden and Norway are extremly rich nations, but skyscrapers is a sign of business, business are incomes AND costs.

USA and Germany has much more money in circulation.

Incomes and costs.. Interesting:popcorn:

Thats explains why they are buidling more highrises in the baltic:shifty:

No, the baltics aren't scandinavia, the economical culture there is different, they likes to take a bet, take a chance.
That's why they are more damaged of the low business cycle.

No, the baltics aren't scandinavia, the economical culture there is different, they likes to take a bet, take a chance.
That's why they are more damaged of the low business cycle.
Another explanation might be the NIMBY's, especially in Stockholm and Copenhagen..

Another explanation might be the NIMBY's, especially in Stockholm and Copenhagen..

yes, scandinavian people are not always happy in change.

The looks of the swedish cars and other scandinavian design is a good proof of that.

Oslo isn't big enough to have the best skyline in this region, Oslo is just hardly bigger than Gothenburg.

So this possible future skyline of Oslo will never be good, because it's not enough people there?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Photoshop/Fjordporten3a.jpg

More realistic, if we put away the tall slim one, and add some more smaller ones on the right side. That render is always great to watch though.

I strongly believe Oslo will have a very nice "skyline" in the future. We are not there now, but in 20-30 years. Before I die hopefully :lol:

Another explanation might be the NIMBY's, especially in Stockholm and Copenhagen..

Copenhagen and Stockholm is both very beautiful and completed cities in the centre of, compered to Oslo, Malmö etc... There is a logic reason that there are more nimbys in cities like Bergen and Ålesund than in Stavanger for instance. Same for the Baltic, they doesn´t have much to loose...

I don't saying that the skyline of Oslo isn't good or have the potential to be very good.
I just think that Oslo is big enough to build a better skyline that Copenhagen&Stockholm, but I might have wrong,norwegians are very productive people with alot of skills and money.

muster, Its a very nice picture :)

,norwegians are very productive people with alot of skills and money.

Nah.. it's mostly swedes working here. We norwegians prefer fishing and skiing :lol:

Nah.. it's mostly swedes working here. We norwegians prefer fishing and skiing :lol:

gå på tur då? ;) (walking in the nature)
isn't that like the national sport of Norway :P

gå på tur då? ;) (walking in the nature)
isn't that like the national sport of Norway :P

I tell you, in my team at my workplace we are 8 people. 1 from Iceland, 3 norwegians and 4 swedes!!! Thats how the labour market in Oslo is right now.

I usually hide and go to sleep under my desk, and let the swedes do the work. They are very good workers ;)

http://static.c4d.dk/images/image_17112009_225840.png

Frankfurt is true german perfection! :eek2:

^^ Too bad it's not the capital. If it was, it would be more famous and be a more well known skyline. Also more tourist would have seen the beauty!

^^ Too bad it's not the capital. If it was, it would be more famous and be a more well known skyline. Also more tourist would have seen the beauty!

Ok, I like skyscrapers, but Frankfurt as a capital before Berlin is a no no ;)

I agree with that, so I may have said it wrong. I actually ment that it would be great to have this skyline in a capital, were it could be on display.

^^ Too bad it's not the capital. If it was, it would be more famous and be a more well known skyline. Also more tourist would have seen the beauty!

I saw Frankfurt advertised as "Manhattan in Europe" in
a swedish magazine about a month ago.
Mainhattan sure is a lot more than only Bankfurt.

Same for the Baltic, they doesn´t have much to loose...

UNESCO treats us every time when we just think about some new highrise closer than 1-2 km of historical centre. Also NIMBYS opposition is very strong here. But I agree that in Riga you can find more places to build highrises (outside of centre) than in Stockholm, because historical areas in left bank Riga has much lower density than Stockholm's analogue - Sodermalm.

Oslo is lagging behind because of the landscape cityplanners are afraid skyscrapers will ruin it's shape (Even outside of the centre.) If Stockholm/Copenhagen gets a nicer modern skyline than us, it's because of this, not the city size.

New highrises are limited in height, even Ørestad gets taller towers (For now.)....
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/18nov/DSC_0747.jpg

Their spire skylines are better than ours. Our spires are way to short...

^^ Uranienborg Kirke contributes the best in Oslo imo.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BldrsdFxPTA/R2T4jSvVRcI/AAAAAAAABAs/xG7Pr4z3G5M/s1600/Uranienborg%2Bkirke.jpg

this contributes to the skyline of Gothenburg(Göteborg)

the Liseberg tower(116 m)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2352/2040166612_ea242e735e.jpg

Gothia Towers(75 m)
http://images.channels.nl/images/hotel/org/276/276643.jpg

New Ullevi Stadium
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Ullevi_2006-08-06.jpg

Läppstiftet(86 m)
http://www.travelblissful.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/599790_26833800.jpg

Not the most impressive skyline, but it's diffrent :)

Good stuff! ^^
Just finished the last of the new Johan Falk police series
which all took place in Göteborg and showed a lot of
those and other places, buildings and skylines
in the second city of Sweden.

Good stuff! ^^
Just finished the last of the new Johan Falk police series
which all took place in Göteborg and showed a lot of
those and other places, buildings and skylines
in the second city of Sweden.

About the Falk movies, which is your favourite?
Mine is Livvakterna, it's just awsome.
I remeber that it started with some pictures of a skyviews of some kind of baltic city, maybe somewhere in Estonia.

About the Falk movies, which is your favourite?
Mine is Livvakterna, it's just awsome.
I remeber that it started with some pictures of a skyviews of some kind of baltic city, maybe somewhere in Estonia.

I´m talking about all the newly produced movies that you can
rent on DVD for the past months which also will be shown on
TV soon enough.
A lot better than Wallander and Beck and the first one
(GSI) has for instance got scenes in and outside
the Gothia Towers:

http://www.inoueandbaldwin.com/photos/world27.jpg

I like all those nine movies but especially Noll Tolerans
och Leo Gaut (new) which is sort of a sequel to
the first one.

http://www.arenastaden.se/files/images/hotell.jpg

This hotel going to be the nicest in Scandinavia, it's called Quality Hotel and it will stretch 100 metres up in the sky just by the foot of the new National Fotball Stadium in Stockholm.

It will contribute to the Stockholm skyline in a very positive way.

The best Nordic and Baltic skyline is either Stockholm or Copenhagen. You need a mix of old and new.

http://www.arenastaden.se/files/images/hotell.jpg

This hotel going to be the nicest in Scandinavia, it's called Quality Hotel and it will stretch 100 metres up in the sky just by the foot of the new National Fotball Stadium in Stockholm.

It will contribute to the Stockholm skyline in a very positive way.

Don't know about Scandinavia!
And it doesn't look like it will look like that anymore though!
On the latest drawing it has just been a regular box! :(

And I think Victoria tower will be much nicer in Stockholm than that one.

The best Nordic and Baltic skyline is either Stockholm or Copenhagen. You need a mix of old and new.

Its not much new in Stockholm and Copenhagen, is it?

I think stockholm got a great mix by new and old.

New:
Kista Science Tower
http://www.white.se/repository/typify/files/kista_01.jpg

Skatteskrapan
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Skatteskrapan,_Stockholm,_2007-07-17.jpg/450px-Skatteskrapan,_Stockholm,_2007-07-17.jpg

Dn-Skrapan
http://www.resume.se/_internal/cimg!0/akvpxf7y3aekftfduzh72tht3i06lh7/Protester%20mot%20chefsrekrytering%20på%20DN.jpeg

Rica Talk Hotel
http://www.askjoh.se/29_6_2007_018.jpg

Södertornet(1997)
http://img1.photographersdirect.com/img/13429/wm/pd2292132.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Sodertornet_at_night.jpg/225px-Sodertornet_at_night.jpg


Globen
http://www.resume.se/_internal/cimg!0/twbb7szq3ieg7g3gy75czo0f2ydghws/Här%20sätter%20Pepsi%20färg%20på%20Globen.jpeg

Hötorgskraporna
http://www.laddatljus.se/media/bilder_hotorget/laddat_ljus_hotorget1.jpg

Some of the old:

Stadshuset
http://www.500utflykter.se/img/bilder/stadshuset1.jpg

Spread out though...

it's the same in every nordic city, there's no citycenter filled with high towers and skyscrapers.
Like Frankfurt for example, there's a obvious citycenter that you can read of it's skyline.
It's close to the optimal.

It is a skyline contest, not a tall building contest, so I think it a bit wrong to say that Copenhagen and Stockholm has the best skyline based on the variation of old and new. Tallinn is a clear winner in that class imo.

It is a skyline contest, not a tall building contest, so I think it a bit wrong to say that Copenhagen and Stockholm has the best skyline based on the variation of old and new. Tallinn is a clear winner in that class imo.

can't disagree with you, Tallinn has a very nice skyview indeed, but that's the only good thing with that town in my opinion.

Ever been to Tallinn oldtown? ;)

^^Surely he hasn't visited tin_can's thread, at least... :bash:

Ever been to Tallinn oldtown? ;)

Just a poor ripoff of Stockholm's old town ;)- No, just been in the new parts of the city.

^^ You have been to Tallinn, but not the old town..? :lol:

can't disagree with you, Tallinn has a very nice skyview indeed, but that's the only good thing with that town in my opinion.

Tallinn is a great and beautiful city. People living there are warm and friendly, not like some other cities in our region..

Wow, and I thought that everyone hated Tallinn :D. Though I'm not the biggest Tallinn fan myself, I can assure you that there is lots more to this town than just skyline and old town ;).

Yes, I went there by ferrie, it was such a bad weather that you nearly couldn't get of the boat.
That's why I don't like Tallinn and I never been to old town.
I didn't like the food either.

;)

Yes, I went there by ferrie, it was such a bad weather that you nearly couldn't get of the boat.
That's why I don't like Tallinn and I never been to old town.
I didn't like the food either.

;)

clearly, all your opinions from now on carry enormous weight around here.

clearly, all your opinions from now on carry enormous weight around here.

Did I said that I'm a freaking Talinn-expert?
I have only been to Tallin once, but I have also been to Pirita, but I'm not sure if that counts as Tallinn.
And I have been to Raekoja plats.
So I think I know enough to be sharing my opinion

Yes, I went there by ferrie, it was such a bad weather that you nearly couldn't get of the boat.
That's why I don't like Tallinn and I never been to old town.
I didn't like the food either.

;)
You don't like Tallinn because the weather was bad when you visited it? :lol: Oh, well...

You don't like Tallinn because the weather was bad when you visited it? :lol: Oh, well...

I don't like tallin because I never got a chance to see it from it's best side.

It is a skyline contest, not a tall building contest, so I think it a bit wrong to say that Copenhagen and Stockholm has the best skyline based on the variation of old and new. Tallinn is a clear winner in that class imo.

I was very disappointed when I vistited Tallinn, it doesnt feel lke a city. More like a large suburb. The planning is bad, especially of the new buildings.

It is a skyline contest, not a tall building contest, so I think it a bit wrong to say that Copenhagen and Stockholm has the best skyline based on the variation of old and new. Tallinn is a clear winner in that class imo.

What? A steeple there a tower there a large spheric arena there. Variation is king. Steel and glass bankoffices wont win any prices.

^^ so,by your logic,even Frankfurt am Main isn't one of European finest skylines as it's center is mostly composed of bank & office buildings :|

@Dahlis,gluten - Looks like we have some real Tallinn experts here :lol:

In my personal opinion,currently Vilnius has the best skyline and Malmö has the best single skyscraper (turning torso) As of future,I'm sure that Vilnius will continue as top N&B skyline. Tallinn has somewhat limited options towards Downtown development - many buildings under heritage protection,large residential buildings - it makes building new highrises here really hard. I would keep my eyes on Oslo,as it has some real potential for having a really nice skyline,but for that it needs more highrises (which,I'm sure,it gets) and less NIMBY's. :)

^^ so,by your logic,even Frankfurt am Main isn't one of European finest skylines as it's center is mostly composed of bank & office buildings :|

@Dahlis,gluten - Looks like we have some real Tallinn experts here :lol:

In my personal opinion,currently Vilnius has the best skyline and Malmö has the best single skyscraper (turning torso) As of future,I'm sure that Vilnius will continue as top N&B skyline. Tallinn has somewhat limited options towards Downtown development - many buildings under heritage protection,large residential buildings - it makes building new highrises here really hard. I would keep my eyes on Oslo,as it has some real potential for having a really nice skyline,but for that it needs more highrises (which,I'm sure,it gets) and less NIMBY's. :)

A nice skyline is a varied skyline, with different kinds od buildings from different eras in different styles. Tallinn and Vilnius have modernist highrises in steel and glass. They need more variation.

A nice skyline is a varied skyline, with different kinds od buildings from different eras in different styles. Tallinn and Vilnius have modernist highrises in steel and glass. They need more variation.
Maybe you'll manage to see more variation here:
http://i45.tinypic.com/33a3o93.jpg
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4349/12a1.jpg

Last time I checked,Tallinn's skyline had huge variation - Old Town with it's church spires & towers and Downtown with it's modern highrises (from 70s to contemporary architecture) Same thing is going on with rest of Nordic & Baltic cities - all have varied architecture,ranging from medieval houses & churches to modern "glass & steel" buildings. So,saying that some city has architectural variation while other don't,is rather short sighted claim. Besides,this ain't best urban environment contest,this is best skyline contest. I hope I don't have to explain the difference between those two....

@Dompcz - Wait a sec,is that Tallinn photo mine :sly:? I can't even remember all the photos I've posted here :D

Vilnius looks just awesome :drool:

@Dahlis - Do you see now? plenty of variation.

@Dompcz - Wait a sec,is that Tallinn photo mine :sly:? I can't even remember all the photos I've posted here :D

Vilnius looks just awesome :drool:

@Dahlis - Do you see now? plenty of variation.

I see your point, but I do not see the same variation that Stockholm and Copenhagen has to offer.

@Dompcz - Wait a sec,is that Tallinn photo mine :sly:? I can't even remember all the photos I've posted here :D
Yes, it's your photo, I forgot to add the authors. :)

I see your point, but I do not see the same variation that Stockholm and Copenhagen has to offer.
It's your choice to believe whatever you want to believe no matter how reality looks like. :)
I've been in Stockholm this summer and sorry, I can't agree with you here.

To me the Tallinn skyline have more variation and is far more interesting than Stockholm. Somebody have to take a reality check :ohno:

To me the Tallinn skyline have more variation and is far more interesting than Stockholm. Somebody have to take a reality check :ohno:


Excuse me?! This is about opinions there is no right or wrong. Try to post a proper argument instead.

:applause:

My vote goes to Stockholm. If judging only the Inner city, it has a pretty good historical skyline with many churches and some skyscrapers in it (some are newer and some are from the 50's or 60's). If judging the Greater Stockholm, then we can find a Kista tower, the Scandic hotel and some other highrises, which are, perhaps more qualitive than in Tallinn. The only thing that makes the comparance harder is that Stockholm is more developed like a metropolis, while other cities in our region are just cities. :)
I think that Stockholm will have a great cluster after some time aswell. ;)

My vote goes to Stockholm. If judging only the Inner city, it has a pretty good historical skyline with many churches and some skyscrapers in it (some are newer and some are from the 50's or 60's). If judging the Greater Stockholm, then we can find a Kista tower, the Scandic hotel and some other highrises, which are, perhaps more qualitive than in Tallinn. The only thing that makes the comparance harder is that Stockholm is more developed like a metropolis, while other cities in our region are just cities. :)
I think that Stockholm will have a great cluster after some time aswell. ;)
*BANG* Did you hear it? And Dj4life was dead :doh: Seriously..

And another one... :lol: this is actually getting amusing.

Excuse me?! This is about opinions there is no right or wrong. Try to post a proper argument instead.

So, if I say that New York have a modern skyline compared to Rome, thats only an opinion, nothing to do with right or wrong..:nuts:

So, if I say that New York have a modern skyline compared to Rome, thats only an opinion, nothing to do with right or wrong..:nuts:

Arh, you're twisting the discussion here. If you say that the skyline of New York has "more variation and is far more interesting" than the skyline og Rome, then it is your opinion and not a fact, that can be tested for right or wrong.

I would like to see a picture of Stockholm with a better skyline than Tallinn which explains this comment"Stockholm or Copenhagen, you need a mix of new and old". And not a bunch of photos with different buildings.

I would like to see a picture of Stockholm with a better skyline than Tallinn which explains this comment"Stockholm or Copenhagen, you need a mix of new and old". And not a bunch of photos with different buildings.

Me 2. Stockholm is famous for its old beautiful architecture and all the water and stuff. Not modern skyscrapers. Let's be honest. None of the nordic countries/cities are worldwide famous for their modern buildings and skyline.

This is what I could find. And it is not much :lol:

http://www.jonasekblad.com/public/userdata/pics/resize/607500/607166-pi9lk.jpg

I would like to see a picture of Stockholm with a better skyline than Tallinn which explains this comment"Stockholm or Copenhagen, you need a mix of new and old". And not a bunch of photos with different buildings.
Me too!

I would like to see a picture of Stockholm with a better skyline than Tallinn which explains this comment"Stockholm or Copenhagen, you need a mix of new and old". And not a bunch of photos with different buildings.

First you have to define what "better" meens, is it better to have towers, spires, unique shaped buildings from all eras spread out in the city or is it better to have a few highrises built in the last years in the same neighborhood.
Because what you think is best is not per definition right.

So this picture of yours doens´t really exist? Its all in your head, right? For me, skyline is ONE view that really exist.

So this picture of yours doens´t really exist? Its all in your head, right? For me, skyline is ONE view that really exist.


Stop twisting and give me an answer, give me your definition.

Definition of skyline: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyline

...Skyline is best described as the overall or partial view of a city's tall buildings and structures consisting of many skyscrapers in front of the sky in the background. It can also be described as the artificial horizon that a city's overall structure creates...

...now let's see that single view of Stockholm which is superior to rest of N&B skylines.

I so love this picture posted earlier by Embrace57 in this thread and I really need to go there and take some pictures!
What is the name of the hill it's taken from?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3477109030_b19752379a_b.jpg

Definition of skyline: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyline



...now let's see that single view of Stockholm which is superior to rest of N&B skylines.

I didnt even have to post it, just look at the post above.

I so love this picture posted earlier by Embrace57 in this thread and I really need to go there and take some pictures!
What is the name of the hill it's taken from?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3477109030_b19752379a_b.jpg

Yay! That's what i was talking about! Thank you for posting this great picture once again! :master:

It looks photoshopped somehow..

I so love this picture posted earlier by Embrace57 in this thread and I really need to go there and take some pictures!
What is the name of the hill it's taken from?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3477109030_b19752379a_b.jpg

It almost seems too good to be true :cheers:

That easily beats any N&B city, but I'm not even sure it's not photoshopped as previous post said.


About the "superiour skyline" I have to say that I like Stockholm's and Tallinn's the most. Tallinn because of it's nice combination between modern buildings and old. And Stockholm for it's unique, beautiful skyline. Just as I think London's skyline is more beautiful than Dubai's.

^^

Not the skyline! It's there! ;)

And Tors Torn will be going up to the right of the picture somewhere behind Karolinska, won't it?

I don't understand many of you (mostly swedes for some reason) that embrace Stockholm's skyline. Stockholm is a very nice city, but when it comes to skyline it's not THAT interesting.

This photo for instance is a bit flat and boring. There are no skyscrapers, just some ordinary midrises in the background. The dominating buildings in front are actually a bit ugly... To me it is bland, and offers little drama...:ohno:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3477109030_b19752379a_b.jpg



This one is more contrasted and interesting. It has a variation of modern shaped buildings together with a variation of older buildings.
http://www.alarifoto.com/images/pilt725.jpg

^^

They are both great cities just like all our capitals.
No winners no loosers!

These Stockholm's and Tallin's latest pictures are incredibly amazing! And Stockholm as a city with the best waterfronts in the whole world, has also fantastic skyline - even several skylines (Sodermalm's or OldTown's+centre's), though it's not skyline with many tall accents, but rather a "city's artificial horizon" as wikipedia's second definition of skyline says, which was cited here.

Lovely shots!

Would be interesting to see some top 10s instead of this neverending argument, everyones opinion is just as valid as your own. Here is mine:

1. Vilnius. -Far better than any other N&B. Beautiful historic centre, large modern cluster with many projects and with very good design of buildings and a ring of commieblocks on the green hills.

2. Tallinn. -Nice contrast between old and new. Waterfront view is excellent. More towers can make this rival Vilnius.

3. Stockholm. -Churchtowers are beautifully imposing and numerous. Highrises are awfully boring and does no good for the skyline. + Geography is very nice.

4. Malmö. -Turning Torso ofc. Some nice churchtowers and an awsome bridge.

5. Riga. -Tv-tower is beautiful, very nice view over old towns spires from the river.

6. Oslo. -Work in progress but developping fast, one very nice tower, and some good density and distincty withinn a few years. Nice nature setting with skijump in the hills.

7. Gothenburg. -Amusementpark in the middle of some highrises make a nice touch. One very nice tower and very nice harbourstructures in the distance. Too few towers tough.

8. Copenhagen. -Nice bridge, i like the windmills in the harbour. A lot of distinct spires and some not so good highrises scattered around. Flat landscape.. Modern district has stupid heightlimit.

9. Helsinki. 2 very nice churches, and a nice setting. Few towers.

10. Reykjavik. Pärlan is cool, nice surroundings, a nice modern church. Small city with few highrises, tough they make a cute little cluster. Neverending lightbeam at night.

Some of these cities, i have not been to, so sorry that they are evaluated on the basis of the pics seen here on the forum instead of the irl. value they have. The buildings are the most important factor, aubviously - else this list would be full of smaller Norwegian cities.