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junlin
April 29th, 2005, 05:31 PM
West local-style dwelling houses of Sichuan

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http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/7.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/6.jpg

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http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/4.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/seecd523627.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/seecd424960.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/seecd164205.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/seecd264194.jpg

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tiger
April 29th, 2005, 08:31 PM
very ugly,all were copied from beijing and suzhou.the empress of copying is just chengdu village.

Pangu
April 29th, 2005, 09:01 PM
Ugly!?

These are gorgeous!

BTW, are these new buildings?

tiger
April 29th, 2005, 09:22 PM
Ugly!?

These are gorgeous!

BTW, are these new buildings?

还用问吗?全部是新建的.copy empress,that's chengdu.

Sen
April 29th, 2005, 10:42 PM
tiger if you dont change your attitude toward people from chengdu you will be banned.

consider that a warning.

tiger
April 29th, 2005, 11:30 PM
tiger if you dont change your attitude toward people from chengdu you will be banned.

consider that a warning.

what you said to me is so funny,you are a communist.

tiger
April 29th, 2005, 11:34 PM
everyone has all rights to give critiques,and moreover,i didn't make things up like those chengdunian,what i said here is the truth,you can't active like a communist.

Pangu
April 29th, 2005, 11:51 PM
tiger:

While it's true that members are free to express their opinions on the public forums, but we have rules here that keep our forums from becoming chaotic and filled with people bickering back and forth.

When you purposely insult and offend someone it's called flaming and it's against the rules to do that here.

If you want to acuse of someone doing something, in this case, you're accusing the city of Chengdu "copying" the architectural styles of other Chinese cities then please provide evidence to back up your claim, otherwise you're doing nothing but flaming.

Sen is doing his job as a moderator, keeping members from fighting and making sure they follow our rules. If you have a problem with our forum, no one is forcing you to stay.

You're receiving another warning, one more and we'll look into having your banned for good.

請您自愛一點 ...

muchbetter
April 30th, 2005, 12:10 AM
I love these houses and gardens characteristic of Chinese archtecture, exceptional and gorgeous!
I wish I would have a house like this. :)

ήrσndeimr
April 30th, 2005, 12:47 AM
Interesting house, very treditional and nice. :)

howelee
April 30th, 2005, 03:46 AM
wonderful,these are the most gorgeous new architectures i've ever seen in the world

howelee
April 30th, 2005, 03:55 AM
btw, I extremely hate some Chinese architects building so many "western style" rubbish on Chinese land,they will be executed one day.

Sen
April 30th, 2005, 04:00 AM
that's a little harsh?

i also prefer traditional chinese style buildings, but we have so many people in our cities, we need highrises.

Sen
April 30th, 2005, 04:01 AM
by the way do you think we should create a forum for traditional architecture?

junlin
April 30th, 2005, 04:48 AM
very ugly,all were copied from beijing and suzhou.the empress of copying is just chengdu village.
Do'nt you think your own statement is funny ? ?
I impressed clearly that" that is West local-style dwelling houses of Sichuan"(川西民居)
in the style of ancients Characteristic constructionthe in Bejing and suzhou is the style of west local of sichan???

Sen
April 30th, 2005, 04:53 AM
你可不可以在中西部的贴子里从贴一遍?
什么是传统川西民居呢?以前真没有这个概念,不过这些和北京和苏州的古建筑真不一样。

junlin
April 30th, 2005, 05:19 AM
All the above-mentioned buildings picture are the local old architectural styles of Chengdu .
以上图片都是成都的仿古建筑.其建筑风格都属川西民居

junlin
April 30th, 2005, 05:29 AM
你可不可以在中西部的贴子里从贴一遍?
什么是传统川西民居呢?以前真没有这个概念,不过这些和北京和苏州的古建筑真不一样。

NO problem

junlin
April 30th, 2005, 08:36 AM
the local old architectural styles of Chengdu .

以下图片都是成都的仿古建筑.其建筑风格都属川西民居

junlin
April 30th, 2005, 08:57 AM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/010FEB9F.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/5.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/7.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/010FEC0A.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/seecd264194.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/seecd313146.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/seecd164205.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/seecd523627.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/seecd220516.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/4.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/seecd424960.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/x1pbglk-vqL4BvX3n5EWLmix16pY_K6AK4Z1PqMoXp3Z18K7SateYm_kY5D6hh60Zl7q6xQWNGBDq1AJOCewig_JLsQ-IVAV4aNPkIEyNss0ejy2XaT7NcCyA.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/junlin/6.jpg

tiger
April 30th, 2005, 11:34 AM
你可不可以在中西部的贴子里从贴一遍?
什么是传统川西民居呢?以前真没有这个概念,不过这些和北京和苏州的古建筑真不一样。

川西民居就是成都人自己在上个世纪创造的词汇,实际上什么都不是.

川西民居和西南地区的民居非常相似,你可以想象某些成都人把西南地区的建筑当成是自己的吗?

请记住,成都的历史没有重庆长,成都的文化是融合了重庆的"先进"文化.

tiger
April 30th, 2005, 11:40 AM
某些人就是喜欢仿古建筑,这跟成都的文化很是吻合.

tiger
April 30th, 2005, 11:42 AM
成都城内有任何超过千年的古镇吗?就喜欢建仿古建筑,把臆造的当作事实,把COPY当作荣耀.

junlin
April 30th, 2005, 02:23 PM
this is international forum so i do'nt qurrel with you here.
but really I look down upon you .
重庆土伙!!

Tom_Green
April 30th, 2005, 02:30 PM
I like the buildings. They should build more of them because they look Chinese.
It would be much more interesting for me to walk through a area with such buildings then walk trough a area of western styles villas.

junlin
April 30th, 2005, 03:26 PM
成都城内有任何超过千年的古镇吗?就喜欢建仿古建筑,把臆造的当作事实,把COPY当作荣耀.

Since you know Chinese, you own having a look clearly!!

the top 10 ancient towns of Chengdu
http://www.bashu.net/travel/chengdu/chengdu_02.htm

the top 10 ancient towns of Chengdu and the top 10 ancient towns of Sichuang
http://www.tocnwest.com/bbs/printpage.asp?BoardID=3&ID=440

I find you speak not responsible usually . please provide evidence to back up your claim
thank you !!

howelee
May 1st, 2005, 12:21 AM
that's a little harsh?

i also prefer traditional chinese style buildings, but we have so many people in our cities, we need highrises.

sorry, that's a little bit harsh,i was drunk yesterday :cheers: .
from my point of view, Chinese architecture are not just something like 四合院 or 婺源民居.Jinmao ,Taipei 101 are good examples for mordern highrise with Chinese character. In many cities, new-riches are building ugly western style residential buildings, so many and so tacky they are that you Tainwanese can't imagine

by the way do you think we should create a forum for traditional architecture?

that's a great idea,but i'm afraid few chinese people will like this forum.in their modern eyes, tradition means poor, old and backward.It's sad that few Chinese cherish the value of traditional buildings nowadays,that's the reason why i hate Mao and Deng, Mao destroyed our culture, Deng shocked our self-confidence.

Sen
May 1st, 2005, 02:40 AM
既然是中文論壇,我也打中文了。

我不是臺灣人,微拼打不了簡體,我又不想用全拼,所以才打繁體。

我很喜歡古代建築,其實很多中國人也都喜歡的,但是我認爲還是原汁原味的比較好,有些東西是複製不來的。我是北京人,這方面有深刻體會,又一條街是明清時的商業街,前幾年市政府決定按原樣建一條仿古商業街,建好后招徠一片臭賣。給人一種不倫不類的感覺,就說這個玻璃吧,中國古代建築都不用玻璃的,都是用紙糊的,你個它裝上玻璃能不走樣麽? 北京西站不知你去沒去過。。。簡直是。。。北京人中最心痛的記憶就是拆城牆,那估計是全世界保存的最完好,最長的古城墻了,說拆就給拆了。現在人們醒悟了,建了一個什麽破城牆遺址公園,哎早知如此何必當初。

有些東西失去了就是失去了(可惜或者說可恨的是毀在我們自己人手裏)。但當務之急應該是保護現有的古建築,可有些地方還在大拆特拆,真是悲哀。仿古的建築可以建,東不能給人一種東施效顰的感覺。說實話成都這些建築很不錯,沒有一種粗糙的感覺,你覺得太不像古建築因爲它畢竟不是,真正的古建築年頭擺在那裏呢,經過多少年風雨洗禮看起來當然不一樣。

Sen
May 1st, 2005, 02:46 AM
i totally agree with you that many chinese admire everything western, just look at the names of some housing projects, berlin chapter..roma garden..vancouver forest..WTF? why cant we have names like beijing palace, chang an city, suzhou garden?

sages
May 1st, 2005, 04:04 AM
既然是中文論壇,我也打中文了。

我不是臺灣人,微拼打不了簡體,我又不想用全拼,所以才打繁體。

我很喜歡古代建築,其實很多中國人也都喜歡的,但是我認爲還是原汁原味的比較好,有些東西是複製不來的。我是北京人,這方面有深刻體會,又一條街是明清時的商業街,前幾年市政府決定按原樣建一條仿古商業街,建好后招徠一片臭賣。給人一種不倫不類的感覺,就說這個玻璃吧,中國古代建築都不用玻璃的,都是用紙糊的,你個它裝上玻璃能不走樣麽? 北京西站不知你去沒去過。。。簡直是。。。北京人中最心痛的記憶就是拆城牆,那估計是全世界保存的最完好,最長的古城墻了,說拆就給拆了。現在人們醒悟了,建了一個什麽破城牆遺址公園,哎早知如此何必當初。

有些東西失去了就是失去了(可惜或者說可恨的是毀在我們自己人手裏)。但當務之急應該是保護現有的古建築,可有些地方還在大拆特拆,真是悲哀。仿古的建築可以建,東不能給人一種東施效顰的感覺。說實話成都這些建築很不錯,沒有一種粗糙的感覺,你覺得太不像古建築因爲它畢竟不是,真正的古建築年頭擺在那裏呢,經過多少年風雨洗禮看起來當然不一樣。

没错
我最恨那些破坏历史的白痴了~~
他妈的~
一群混蛋

howelee
May 1st, 2005, 04:16 AM
中國古代建築都不用玻璃的,都是用紙糊的,你個它裝上玻璃能不走樣麽?。。。

说到玻璃,我在想,传统的中华建筑为什么不能装玻璃呢?玻璃显然比纸张要先进,如果拒绝建筑装上玻璃,我们的传统建筑便得不到发展,便丧失了生命力。哥特,巴洛克等西式建筑最初也没有玻璃,现在很多国人看着装着玻璃的美国国会大厦也不是特顺眼吗?(比如湖北省公安厅新大楼做得跟它一摸一样)

几千年来中华建筑一直在不断发展演变,清代跟秦代也大不相同。我认为只要保持大体不变,保持红墙绿瓦,钩心斗角,雕梁画栋,就是保持了我们的民族特色 :)

howelee
May 1st, 2005, 04:24 AM
北京西站不知你去沒去過。。。簡直是。。。


原来斑竹也不喜欢北京西站,能讲讲为什么吗?我觉得北京西站虽然是豆腐渣工程,但外表还说得过去,有点像武大的樱园学生宿舍,比“拜占庭花园”们强多
了,就算是垃圾,至少人家一看就知道是中国的垃圾,而不是进口的洋垃圾。
http://files.photojerk.com/howelee/110389016133297.jpg

http://files.photojerk.com/howelee/Dsc03223.jpg


1930s

http://files.photojerk.com/howelee/wd13.jpg

Sen
May 1st, 2005, 04:32 AM
哎北京西站太變態。。。首先我不喜歡顔色,屋頂還説得過去,但是爲什麽要挖一個大洞,難道是模仿古代中國城門麽?另外有點可以強調仿古結果反而沒有弄好。

呵呵你是武大的?我頂喜歡武大的校園,公認的中國最美麗的大學校園!

裝上玻璃縂覺得不自然,但是你說得沒錯,如果要發展民族建築要符合時代才行。

我認爲中國的古建築都是在細節的雕琢上下功夫,現在的仿古建築完全忽略了,可能是資金的原因吧。

howelee
May 1st, 2005, 04:34 AM
我頂喜歡武大的校園,公認的中國最美麗的大學校園!

武大的校园原本很美,但是这些年学校官员们搞大跃进,建了一批比北大新建筑还丑陋的“现代化教学楼”,对老景观大肆破坏,已是满目苍夷了

Sen
May 1st, 2005, 04:40 AM
我還是覺得上面武大好看一點,好看歸好看,中國以前好像也沒有這種建築,不是很“正宗“

那天發個湖北省公安厛給我們看啊?

tiger
May 1st, 2005, 04:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wjfox2002
Btw, I think I will ban you soon.


When I say the truth, banning me? I know a nation does exactly the same as you do.

CHINA

take a look at how do your actions here affect one person :bleh: :banana: :tongue3:

tiger
May 1st, 2005, 04:26 PM
aren't you shamed?

tiger
May 1st, 2005, 04:28 PM
telling truth in a under forum may be banned,what's the forum?in the chinese forum!

tiger
May 1st, 2005, 04:35 PM
Since you know Chinese, you own having a look clearly!!

the top 10 ancient towns of Chengdu
http://www.bashu.net/travel/chengdu/chengdu_02.htm

the top 10 ancient towns of Chengdu and the top 10 ancient towns of Sichuang
http://www.tocnwest.com/bbs/printpage.asp?BoardID=3&ID=440

I find you speak not responsible usually . please provide evidence to back up your claim
thank you !!


OMG,are these towns inside chengdu city?why do you like to make things up?

tiger
May 1st, 2005, 04:40 PM
this is international forum so i do'nt qurrel with you here.
but really I look down upon you .
重庆土伙!!

people should be banned are that who made things up and shot abuses in pubic.

which one did the things?obviously. :gunz: :dj: :tongue:

howelee
May 1st, 2005, 06:20 PM
我還是覺得上面武大好看一點,好看歸好看,中國以前好像也沒有這種建築,不是很“正宗“

那天發個湖北省公安厛給我們看啊?


Sorry, i'm not in Hubei at the moment,i've searched on google for 湖北省公安厅 but found nothing.however, just imagine how US Capitol looks like, it's the US version of 湖北省公安厅 :)

howelee
May 1st, 2005, 06:25 PM
tiger, you are a funny Chengduese.I was wondering how old you are :)

tiger
May 1st, 2005, 07:23 PM
tiger, you are a funny Chengduese.I was wondering how old you are :)

so now,you havn't had the interest yet. :nuts: :banned:

Sen
May 1st, 2005, 07:38 PM
tiger:
jun在第一頁註明了是building in the ancient style, that doesnt mean they are ancient. 第二頁更清楚地寫明了“仿古“。請查新華字典“仿“的意思。

給你最後一個機會,收手還來得及。

junlin 請冷靜。

tiger
May 1st, 2005, 07:50 PM
tiger:
jun在第一頁註明了是building in the ancient style, that doesnt mean they are ancient. 第二頁更清楚地寫明了“仿古“。請查新華字典“仿“的意思。

給你最後一個機會,收手還來得及。

junlin 請冷靜。

"junlin,please calm down."OMG,how gentle you are. :redx:

he should apologize to me for his filthy words :toilet:

tiger
May 1st, 2005, 07:56 PM
i don't understand why you harbour him all the time.do you really believe he cant well understand "chengdu city"?why could he make things up,and was lucky to have been harboured?

Sen
May 2nd, 2005, 12:05 AM
very simple, it was you that provoked him.

dont pretend to be innocent.

tiger
May 2nd, 2005, 12:20 AM
very simple, it was you that provoked him.

dont pretend to be innocent.

provoke him?well,that's not my problem.i just expressed my thought.those 仿古 architectures are ugly in my book,i really don't like doing this.

i don't like chinese firms to copy domestic and foreign designs,either.

maybe we dont belong to the same group,if i met the same problem,i would ask why he had this kind of impression,but not to blame him immediately.you acted like a unconfident small-country citizen,and that's all,i don't want to respond you more.

Sen
May 2nd, 2005, 12:33 AM
you have the right to dislike it, but is it helpful you repeat it over and over again?

how would you feel if someone is always talking **** about chongqing? do you think that is acceptable?

i dont think it is.

you dont have to respond to me, but i will watch you carefully.

Pangu
May 2nd, 2005, 12:53 AM
What disgust me more than flamers are flamers who actually believe their cause can be justified...

chengdu's kid
May 3rd, 2005, 02:54 PM
很成都,很中国

raymond_tung88
May 10th, 2005, 03:58 AM
http://files.photojerk.com/howelee/110389016133297.jpg

Is this a picture of Nanjing University? Just wondering...

Sen
May 10th, 2005, 04:04 AM
it's Wuhan University.

Caustic
May 11th, 2005, 05:35 PM
I have always wondered how chinese people argue. :bash: I like your style, very well mannered and civilised.

Regarding the architecture, I understand the frustration of some of you when you say that modern style is dull when compared to classic local architecture. We have the same problem here in Italy (a country comparable to China, for its long history): 90% of buildings built after the WWII period, are horrible and have no character whatsoever. Obviously, they are more comfortable but they lack in warmth.
Anyway, please post more classic chinese (or local chinese) architecture pics on the main forum. I'm an enthusiast!

Bye

howelee
May 11th, 2005, 11:43 PM
http://files.photojerk.com/howelee/110389016133297.jpg

Is this a picture of Nanjing University? Just wondering...

Wuhan University.The main building,which is now undergraduates dormitories, was designed by an American architect in 1927.

howelee
May 12th, 2005, 12:41 AM
Regarding the architecture, I understand the frustration of some of you when you say that modern style is dull when compared to classic local architecture. We have the same problem here in Italy (a country comparable to China, for its long history): 90% of buildings built after the WWII period, are horrible and have no character whatsoever. Obviously, they are more comfortable but they lack in warmth.

Bye


No only China and Italy face the problem. it seems that all countries have abadoned their own tradition architecture since WW2.

howelee
May 12th, 2005, 01:00 AM
The influennce of one culture is tightly related with its political and economic power.

In Europe, Roman architecture was the dominance during the heyday of Rome empire, but it was declined after the collapse of the empire. From the 15th century,when Italy became the leader in Europe once again,the Renaissance began spreading to France, Britain and Spain so that Roman architecture was revived .

For Asian countries, the best example is that nobody cared about Japanese culture when Japan was a poor and backward country, but nowadyas many Westerners are so curious about Japanese culture.

In China ,many people have forgotten the value of their own culture.They admire Western in every respect.However, in my opinion, that won't be long.As the economy keeps increasing rapidly,China will soon be a superpower and the Chinese will find self-confidence.I believe there will be another Renaissance in the Orient in the near future, our culture will regain its position on that day.

Sen
May 12th, 2005, 02:01 AM
Chinese need to have confidence in themselves and in their country.

V80
May 12th, 2005, 02:48 AM
tiger 是不是西部武士哦?

ChinaboyUSA
May 12th, 2005, 11:23 PM
我喜欢成都的小吃

muchbetter
May 13th, 2005, 07:30 AM
I love it,Extra spicy chendu food.