What city in the South has the best transit? Why?

Atlanta.....not that incredible well used but not to bad and it is quite extensive.

Why did you leave out Dallas?

Houston is just getting started.

^ I agree - I think Dallas is has a better transit system.

But if Atlanta does develop all the proposed transit projects - then Atlanta.

Why did you leave out Dallas?

Houston is just getting started.

i guess he just left out the cities in texas, because some of these cities listed don't even have mass transit while there are 3 in texas that do. dallas would probably be my pick if it were listed, but since it is not, i would say atl or miami. c'mon people. every city has bus service.

i know atl has lines going east to west and north and south. miami has that also, but they have lines that go in more directions. atl probably has more mileage though.

I have never been to Houston but do the rest of those cities have any real transit systems?

Atlanta's is pretty extensive but I do not feel very safe on their subways. Charlotte's transit is still small and young. So I vote for none of the cities.

Best transit in the northeast goes to NYC, then Boston, and Philly. I feel safe riding on all three.

^ Charlotte hasn't developed it's transit system yet - only a streetcar line exists in Charlotte (besides bus routes).

Cities with a mass transit system (fixed rail system beyond a single line - Memphis, Jacksonville, Little Rock, Tampa):
Miami
Atlanta
New Orleans

Depends, are we just talking about one type of rail system (like Atlanta's Marta or Miami's Metrorail) or are we bringing other types of local rail systems (like Miami's Tri-Rail and Metromover lines) in to the equation. If so, I'd say Miami or Dallas, in terms of overall coverage and mileage. If we're talking about just one system, then probably Dallas' light rail system.

Has ground been broken yet on Charlotte rail stations?

Even without any future heavy rail extensions, MARTA is pretty decent IF your destination is near a rail station. Taking it to the airport is wonderful if you live near a station (as I am lucky enough to). I really think the only future heavy rail extension will probably be up 400 to Windward Pkwy, and perhaps to the west out to Fulton Industrial. There is also a big push in some quarters to convert the NW BRT/HOV fiasco up I-75/575 back to LRT - as was originally planned before the recent Republican takeover of State government.

I think it is pretty impressive that MARTA rail carries 226,000 riders on weekdays, vs 56,500 for Metrorail in Miami. Sorry, but I don't have figures for TriRail.

well, since you didnt even add dallas, i had to go for atlanta, its designed a tad bit better than the other cities which you listed.

This is like picking the least bad one.

Insightful comment lameus, thank you for gracing us with your deliberate trollness.

Otherwise, I doubt you would here any of us commenting how these systems are the best in the nation - but beyond just 6 transit systems in the nation - there isn't much to pick from. I think it's a matter of our nation's dedication towards the automobile than an indictement of southeastern transit service.

Insightful comment lameus, thank you for gracing us with your deliberate trollness.

Otherwise, I doubt you would here any of us commenting how these systems are the best in the nation - but beyond just 6 transit systems in the nation - there isn't much to pick from. I think it's a matter of our nation's dedication towards the automobile than an indictement of southeastern transit service.

I'm not trolling at all. I'm from the South and have much love for it. It's just that transit isn't the first thing many people would think of when considering southern cities. I simply can't think of a city in the South where you can get anywhere you need to go using transit, and find the South to be the least transit-dependent or transit friendly region of the country (unless you carve the Rocky Mountain region out of the West). I agree our dependence on the automobile and the present state of the federal government make transit projects almost impossible to achieve.

^ Fair enough, sorry for the comment :)

^ Fair enough, sorry for the comment :)
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I picked ATL. Doesn't ATL have the most riders of any system in the south? They also have a direct connection to their airport which is a great asset to the system.

If Dallas were on the list, I'd be tempted to change my choice. I think it's system has more miles of track (?) and has less stigma than ATL's. (Based on my non-scientific subjective judgment. Riding the train is "cool" here and isn't perceived as unsafe.) Dallas' system also has experienced a boom in transit related, dense, multiuse development around stations.

Dallas doesn't have a connection to the airport yet, so that's a knock against it. Fortunately 2 new lines will be built in the next few years and both airports will have rail service, although it looks like Love will only get a spur.

I'd never seen the commuter rail map for ATL. Is that funded or just pie in the sky? That looks like a great plan if it comes through.

N. TX has extensive passenger rail planned as well. There is a push to get a regional rail transit authority formed but it won't be heard this legislative session so I have no idea of a timeframe.

For a commuter rail map of Atlanta look at http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=208282

I simply can't think of a city in the South where you can get anywhere you need to go using transit, and find the South to be the least transit-dependent or transit friendly region of the country (unless you carve the Rocky Mountain region out of the West).

I can think of one--New Orleans.

It has an excellent bus and streetcar system all connecting on a grid system with easy transfers. I lived there for years without a car. Even when I had a car, I rarely went downtown with it.

Check out Canal Street at 5 PM and see the dozens of streetcars and buses packed with thousands of passengers.

I've never been to New Orleans but have heard about the streetcar system. I voted for that city here yesterday.

I think it's funny Birmingham is even in that poll. Unless you consider a taxi transit. It has Max, but well, Max is a regional joke.

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Has ground been broken yet on Charlotte rail stations?

SELRT is u/c

I would have voted for Dallas as having the best rail system in the SE. At least it is pushing ahead for more rail lines for a Texas city, unlike Houston. But since it is off the poll, my second choice is Atlanta. It has a semi-decent heavy rail system where you can get to certain places in the immediate core of Fulton and Dekalb Counties, except ATL is so damn spread out like crazy ironically.

My other picks for good transit is Miami. Second up, New Orleans because of the extensive streetcar system; lets hope the Streetcar Named Desire is up and running whenever. And finally, my next pick which is not on the list is NoVa (Arlington, Alexandria). And yes, I said Northern Virginia, not DC, just so there isn't that regional pitting against one another because DC METRO serves one metropolis cut in half by two regions "Potomac".
i guess he just left out the cities in texas, because some of these cities listed don't even have mass transit while there are 3 in texas that do.
In case you counted Fort Worth as the third because of TRE, Austin is bound to be the fourth Texas city three years from now with a commuter rail system from DT thru Eastside up to NW Austin.

I have never been to Houston but do the rest of those cities have any real transit systems?

Atlanta's is pretty extensive but I do not feel very safe on their subways. Charlotte's transit is still small and young. So I vote for none of the cities.

Best transit in the northeast goes to NYC, then Boston, and Philly. I feel safe riding on all three.

hmm...thats odd you dont feel safe on Atl's subways,but you feel safe on nyc's and phil's subways.

^ Good point. From checking NY1 every now and then, I know their system still has shootings.

I voted Miami b/c of TriRail. Their rail system w/in the system covers more than MARTA covers Atlanta (I think- I could be wrong). AND who doesn't love the neon-lit elevated tracks' reflection sparkling in the water.

Evan, you forgot that B'ham has those trolleys ("Circulators"). Basically glorified buses though. But there has been discussion here about streetcars but our city/region's inept leadership won't get that off the ground any time soon probably.

^ Charlotte hasn't developed it's transit system yet - only a streetcar line exists in Charlotte (besides bus routes).

Cities with a mass transit system (fixed rail system beyond a single line - Memphis, Jacksonville, Little Rock, Tampa):
Miami
Atlanta
New Orleans

Memphis has a 7 mile, 3 line system--Main, Riverfront, and Madison Ave.