View Full Version : Newest type Metrotrainsets of EU cities


Geroplatanos
May 7th, 2005, 12:23 AM
What is the newest (most modern) Metro trains in use in major european cities today? WHat is the most nice looking (both inside and outside) ?




I post some photos from www.railfaneurope.net and www.urbanrail.net
(only new type metro showed here not older then 10 years)

If you think that a city is forgotten please post your photos (ONLY METRO NOT TRAM )

1) Muenchen

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/metro/Muenchen/C/a50_Karlsplatz.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/metro/Muenchen/C/Inside_Metro_Muenchen.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/metro/Muenchen/C/a16_Petuelring.jpg


2) Hamburg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/metro/Hamburg/09.11.03dscf0082.jpg


3) Madrid

S-7000
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/es/metro/Madrid/7000-1523.jpg

S-8000
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/es/metro/Madrid/8000-1520.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/es/metro/Madrid/Metro-M-1865.jpg


4) Bilbao

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/es/metro/Bilbao/221-metro-B.jpg

5) Valencia

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/val/val-colon1.jpg

6) Barcelona

http://de.geocities.com/m_barcel/img/l8-espanya1.jpg

7)London

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/metro/London_Underground/emu-tube/Piccadilly/london02_090303.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/metro/London_Underground/emu-tube/Piccadilly/LU_Piccadilly_1.jpg

8)Paris

MP-89
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/metro/Paris/MP89/20040609_mp89_01.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/metro/Paris/MP89/metro6.jpg

9) Toulouse
(partly train)
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/metro/Toulouse/SEMVAT_Toulouse_Metro_Line-C_X73500_1.jpg

10)Rotterdam

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/nl/metro/Rotterdam/5400/5402-5403.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/nl/metro/Rotterdam/5400/IMG_2312.jpg

11)Copenhagen

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/kob/m-train1.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/metro/metro2.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/kob/s-tog-inside1.jpg

12)Stockholm

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/se/metro/C20/C20_2015_Odenplan_011104.jpg

13)Athens

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gr/metro/P8200005.jpg

14) Vienna

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/at/metro/U6_2.jpg

GENIUS LOCI
May 7th, 2005, 01:04 AM
New trains in use on Line A in Rome

http://www.ferrovie.it/fol048/fol.img/art3-001.jpg

http://www.ferrovie.it/fol048/fol.img/art3-002.jpg

http://www.ferrovie.it/fol048/fol.img/art3-003.jpg

http://www.ferrovie.it/fol048/fol.img/art3-004.jpg

http://www.ferrovie.it/fol048/fol.img/art3-005.jpg

http://www.ferrovie.it/fol048/fol.img/art3-006.jpg

http://www.ferrovie.it/fol048/fol.img/art3-007.jpg

http://www.ferrovie.it/fol048/fol.img/art3-012.jpg

http://www.ferrovie.it/fol048/fol.img/art3-013.jpg

photos by David Campione

GENIUS LOCI
May 7th, 2005, 01:08 AM
The newest in Genoa

http://www.cittaelettriche.it/images/metro_ge.jpg

Geroplatanos
May 7th, 2005, 01:10 AM
Thanks for the info Genius!
These new trainsets are great! :) Bravo Roma , it needed that.
By the way from what is see the same are in use in the Copenhagen metrosystem.

GENIUS LOCI
May 7th, 2005, 01:19 AM
^
They're similar to Copenhagen ones, maybe they're from the same producer
The metro system of Brescia, now under construction, will have the same models now in use in Copenhagen
For Milan line 5 (if I've understood right) the train will be similar to Rome newest ones...

....then...
Turin: new metro system (opening in september) VAL trains

http://www.metrotorino.it/img/Treno_Torino.jpg

Bitxofo
May 7th, 2005, 02:12 AM
Number 9 is NOT metro!!
:nono:
And the 3rd pic of Copenhagen is not that metro, it is a commuter train called S tog!!
>(

Hollandski_KGB
May 7th, 2005, 02:30 AM
Moscow new trains

http://mymetro.ru/img/1/l1/05/01.jpg
http://www.mymetro.ru/img/2/1/10/051.jpg
http://www.mymetro.ru/img/2/1/10/03.jpg
http://www.mymetro.ru/img/2/1/10/001.jpg
http://www.mymetro.ru/img/2/1/10/081.jpg
http://www.mymetro.ru/img/2/1/10/08.jpg
http://www.mymetro.ru/img/2/1/11/01.jpg
http://vagon.metro.ru/photos/74006b.jpg
http://www.mymetro.ru/img/2/1/11/14.jpg
http://vagon.metro.ru/photos/74001b.jpg

superchan7
May 7th, 2005, 02:35 AM
Very cool thread. The Moscow train looks narrow...?

Pavlo
May 7th, 2005, 03:34 AM
Since when is Russia in the EU? ;)

queetz@home
May 7th, 2005, 04:51 AM
WOW! These Euro trainsets are just gorgeous! We need more of these in North American cities.

Giorgio
May 7th, 2005, 05:25 AM
Bias ness makes me say athens is great which it really is but all are great....

scorpion
May 7th, 2005, 09:50 AM
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/kob/s-tog-inside1.jpg

:grouphug: :hug: :cheers1: :fart:

Skaros
May 7th, 2005, 11:55 AM
Nice thread geroplatanos!

Number 9 is NOT metro!!
:nono:
And the 3rd pic of Copenhagen is not that metro, it is a commuter train called S tog!!
>(

Correct about the picture 9 it is not a metro!
As about the S-Tog of Copenhagen it is a commuter rail but i read it runs like a metro in the city, anyway we can take it out of the competition.
:) (nice interior though! )

Bitxofo
May 7th, 2005, 12:15 PM
Nice thread geroplatanos!



Correct about the picture 9 it is not a metro!
As about the S-Tog of Copenhagen it is a commuter rail but i read it runs like a metro in the city, anyway we can take it out of the competition.
:) (nice interior though! )

Nice train, nice interior, I know it personally but...
It is NOT metro, sorry!
;)
Otherwise you should add Barcelona FGC, Paris RER, German S bahns...
:sly:
Euxaristw Skaros!!
:wink2:

Bitxofo
May 7th, 2005, 12:33 PM
Dear Hollandski_KGB,

Moscow metro trains are very interesting, but Russia is NOT in the European Union...
;)

Norbb
May 7th, 2005, 01:17 PM
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/at/metro/U6_2.jpg
This is the "metro" trainset type for U6, the only subway line in Vienna with LRT-stock.

http://www.siemens.at/transportation/images/produkte/vwagen_big.jpg
For the other "true" subway lines there is the type V. The first trainsets are about to be delivered, as there is almost 14km of track to be opened in the next few years. And of course there is the European Championship in 2008 ( huge capacity needed).



Interesting to see how many subways have the high capacity seat layout, with seats along the walls of the car.

Frog
May 7th, 2005, 01:17 PM
Dear Hollandski_KGB,

Moscow metro trains are very interesting, but Russia is NOT in the European Union...
;)
maybe he meant not THE EU but EU as in europe because he says in his post "of major european cities" :) then moscow would count ;)

Mojito
May 7th, 2005, 01:21 PM
I miss the newest Berlin stock (H and HK) in this thread:

http://kopfbahnhof.net/albums/ubahn/Linie2/U-Nollendorfplatz-1.jpg

http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/duitsland/berlyn/ubaan/02/images/bvg-ubaan-gerritprins20040925berlyn2179.JPG

Wonderful trains, unfortunately they suffer very bad from scratched windows...

Frog
May 7th, 2005, 01:30 PM
London: these are the newest trains i think.
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/metro/London_Underground/emu-tube/Central/cen-sand-d-jp.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/metro/London_Underground/emu-tube/Central/cen-sand-i-jp.jpg

city and waterloo line has a different paint scheme
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/metro/London_Underground/emu-tube/City-Waterloo/br482503.jpg

not very modern compared to other trains the the thread :( but were due replacement in about 2008? i think

Mojito
May 7th, 2005, 01:33 PM
And I miss also the 1995 and 1996 Tube Stocks of the Northern and Jubilee Lines in London:

http://images.nycsubway.org//i12000/img_12395.jpg

http://images.nycsubway.org//i28000/img_28891.jpg

@ Frog: These ones are younger, the trains you posted are from 1992 (but I think they are much nicer, because of their large windows...)

Frog
May 7th, 2005, 02:11 PM
sorry, they looked pretty simliar so i wasnt sure :doh:
personally i like the look of the 1992 stock though :cheers:

Geroplatanos
May 7th, 2005, 04:13 PM
Dear Frog and Mojito thanks for the info and the pics of trainsets from London and Berlin.
Still they dont seem to me so modern (or at least nice looking) that is why i did not post photos from them (that is why i said at the beginning at most 10 years old).
I think for these big european capitals it is unacceptable this kind of trainsets.
:)

Nodder
May 7th, 2005, 05:21 PM
Urm, I don't know what your opinion of new or modern is, but I don't think the Berlin trains look that old nor unacceptable. :bash:

Geroplatanos
May 7th, 2005, 05:24 PM
Urm, I don't know what your opinion of new or modern is, but I don't think the Berlin trains look that old nor unacceptable. :bash:

Dont take it bad Nodder! Perhaps i did not use the right word.
To make you understand i mean something like the new Muenchen trainsest or the madrid s-8000 system. Dont tell me that the berlin trains look better then muenchen and madrid! :)

beta29
May 7th, 2005, 05:59 PM
The Berlin trains look very nice and the windows are not scratched in this trains as Mojito says.
The trains have got cameras and they change the window foil as soon as possible when it is scratched.

Geroplatanos
May 7th, 2005, 06:22 PM
The Berlin trains look very nice and the windows are not scratched in this trains as Mojito says.
The trains have got cameras and they change the window foil as soon as possible when it is scratched.

Dear berlincity thank you for the info but please dont be offended.
The trains are nice and bravo for that.
But since there is competition here , i ask you also the same , you like berlin trains more than muenchen and madrid trainsets? We say aesthitically inside and outside what is more nice.
At least from the photos berlin does not take the first place.
If you have more big photos please post them so me and other people can conclude at the same result.
I still think that for the capital of a country like germany and for london , i would expect something much better thats all i said and not that the trains are bad.
:)

Hollandski_KGB
May 7th, 2005, 07:39 PM
Since when is Russia in the EU? ;)

Moscow is not in the EU but it's part of Europe.

beta29
May 7th, 2005, 09:22 PM
Dear berlincity thank you for the info but please dont be offended.
The trains are nice and bravo for that.
But since there is competition here , i ask you also the same , you like berlin trains more than muenchen and madrid trainsets? We say aesthitically inside and outside what is more nice.
At least from the photos berlin does not take the first place.
If you have more big photos please post them so me and other people can conclude at the same result.
I still think that for the capital of a country like germany and for london , i would expect something much better thats all i said and not that the trains are bad.
:)

I never said that the Berlin trains are the best in europe. I know that there are better ones.
I just said that Berlin trains are nice. :)
Maybe I post some more pics

superchan7
May 7th, 2005, 09:43 PM
The new Berlin U-trains are nice, as are Munich's (I've only been on the Munich trains).
London Underground has a very cool design, as usual. I have a question, actually: The 1992 stock doesn't seem to have a door-open button. Do they open all doors then?

Mojito
May 7th, 2005, 09:44 PM
(...) and the windows are not scratched in this trains as Mojito says.
The trains have got cameras and they change the window foil as soon as possible when it is scratched.

Well, that was the case when I visited Berlin the last time, (summer 2003)...Many windows were scratched. But you are right, the U-bahn windows were less damaged than those of the S-bahn-trains.

I guess and I hope it has improved since then...

Crusader
May 7th, 2005, 09:53 PM
great thread, the trains on the Paris Metro are very modern and impressive too.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/metro/Paris/MP89/20040609_mp89_01.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/metro/Paris/MP89/21-14-031130-NZA.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/metro/Paris/MP89/metro6.jpg

Nodder
May 7th, 2005, 09:56 PM
I'll do that for you Berlincity. ;)

The small profile trains from the outside:
http://www.berliner-verkehr.de/ubbilder/utw1001_4.jpg
http://www.berliner-verkehr.de/ubbilder/utw1001_1.jpg

And from the inside:
http://www.berliner-verkehr.de/ubbilder/utw1001_4_i.jpg


The regular profile trains:
http://www.berliner-verkehr.de/ubbilder/utw5002.jpg
http://www.berliner-verkehr.de/ubbilder/utw5040.jpg

I formyself think they are quite pretty and even tho they might not belong onto the top spot, they sure belong into the top 10 of europe.

Geroplatanos
May 7th, 2005, 10:15 PM
Berlincity and Nodder, mych better now for us that we have not used the berlin metro! :)
I agree finally with you nodder the new trainsets are nice and modern and they are in the first 10 .

spsmiler
May 7th, 2005, 10:36 PM
Geroplatanos
pics 7) London - this shows a refurbished train on the Piccadily Line - these trains date from 1973!!!

Frog
You show the 1992 stock as used on the Central Line and the Waterloo & City Line. The station looks like Buckhurst Hill, which is the last station within London (as defined by political / local government boundaries)

The above ground views show trains on the Epping branch which until 1947/8 was used by suburban steam trains. Epping is a small town quite a distance away from London. Here the Central Line operates as a suburban railway, and it used to be that between stations the trains would travel as fast as 70 mph (130km/h, I think) although it is possible that the top speed was reduced after the problems with the drive shafts between the electric motors and the wheels (when all these trains were suspended for 3 months).

The Northern Line train heading for High Barnet is on another route which used to be operated by mainline steam trains - here the underground trains took over in 1940. If the train had been going "straight ahead" it would have been going to Mill Hill East, although usually trains for here use a third track on the left of the brick pier (not seen in this picture). That route originally went to Edgware (via Mill Hill) but as was only a country railway it was only siungle track - in 1939 the line was closed for doubling (converting to 2 tracks) but the war stopped the work. Because there was (still is) a Military barracks near the station in 1941 the single track was re-opened as far as Mill Hill East - and thats how things stayed. The rest of the route to Edgware remained single track until it was finally closed in the 1960's. Which makes me very angry, but I wont go into detail about that here.

btw, the original steam railway Edgware station was further along Station Road than the present Underground Railway station, but it was intended that when the line from Mill Hill re-opened then both routes would use the same station, and that some trains would go further north along a new extension too... those works were also suspended because of the war, and also abandoned afterwards.


I note the pics from Moscow - whilst Russia is not in the EU it would LIKE to be in the EU. As a Brit I would like to be out of the EU. My taxes would be a lot less. Our government could invest more on our railways.

Simon

spsmiler
May 7th, 2005, 10:54 PM
I have a question, actually: The 1992 stock doesn't seem to have a door-open button. Do they open all doors then?

Actually you have stumbled on a bone of contention. maybe Tubeman, if he comes here, will be able to answer why.

The 1992 trains have both "door open" AND "door close" buttons.

But a train driver can get into trouble if he lest the passengers use them!

When the trains were first introduced the buttons were used by passengers. But now they are not. So all doors open at all stations.


In the winter it can be very cold when calling at open air stations and every door opens - it was much better when only the doors actually needed were opened; however in the summer (because the very large glass windows made the trains very hot) they would switch to opening all the doors to help reduce the heat inside them. (no air-con, unfortunately).

Then one autumn the doors remained undere the drivers' control - and thats how its been ever since.

I heard a rumour once that there was a problem with blind people complaining that they could not use the doors, and that sometimes people on the trains would close the doors in the face of approaching passengers, but we were never told officially why the buttons are not used.

Simon

superchan7
May 7th, 2005, 11:05 PM
Where are they? I don't see any buttons on the doors.

Geroplatanos
May 7th, 2005, 11:12 PM
Geroplatanos
pics 7) London - this shows a refurbished train on the Piccadily Line - these trains date from 1973!!!

Spsmiler thanks for the info! :)
But can you show us the photos from the most new london metro trainsets? Are those from Mojito?
They are not bad , but really they are not something special/modern design that someone would expect from London.

Mojito
May 7th, 2005, 11:21 PM
These are the newest trains, ordered by London Underground.

Victoria Line stock, to be delivered between 2009 and 2011:
http://img108.echo.cx/img108/1931/vicsidefront3ic.jpg

Sub Surface Lines stock, to be delivered between 2009 and 2015:
http://img108.echo.cx/img108/6547/ssltrain1bg1jm.jpg

Bitxofo
May 8th, 2005, 01:40 AM
These are the newest trains, ordered by London Underground.

Victoria Line stock, to be delivered between 2009 and 2011:
http://img108.echo.cx/img108/1931/vicsidefront3ic.jpg

Sub Surface Lines stock, to be delivered between 2009 and 2015:
http://img108.echo.cx/img108/6547/ssltrain1bg1jm.jpg

Very beautiful tube trains!!
:wink2:

Palal
May 8th, 2005, 02:38 AM
These are the newest trains, ordered by London Underground.

Victoria Line stock, to be delivered between 2009 and 2011:

Sub Surface Lines stock, to be delivered between 2009 and 2015:

WOW! Nice touch with the "007" ;).

Why are the windows so small though on the tube stock?

Frog
May 8th, 2005, 02:40 AM
WOW! Nice touch with the "007" ;).

Why are the windows so small though on the tube stock?

less surface area for scratchiti? :? ;)

superchan7
May 8th, 2005, 02:42 AM
The 1992 stock , if you look closely, had large windows that curved into the train's roof. Passengers did not like the reflections that were generated by these window shapes, and subsequent versions of tube trains did away with the curved windows.

willo
May 8th, 2005, 02:06 PM
you will see some new metros for madrid soon. the new s-9000 and s-3000 will be delivered in 2007, 2009?¿?¿? don't know exactly, bitxofo will know it better

Mojito
May 8th, 2005, 05:32 PM
The newest metro trains in Amsterdam are the 37 'Ringlijn' cars, built between 1996 and 1997 by CAF in Madrid. Unfortunately, their design is a little bit boring. When I take a look at other CAF designs (like Madrid, Barcelona, Roma) it makes me a little bit jealous...;)

http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/gvb/metro/14/images/gvb-lyn53-remcomulder-20040621amsterdam039.JPG

Their original creme-red and blue livery will be replaced by a new blue and white colour scheme. Although built for line 50, they can also be found on line 51 and 53.

Kommandant Mark
May 8th, 2005, 07:41 PM
Next time, don't make a stupid garbage title about the "metro trainsets in EU"...its like making, "metro trainsets in OPEC countries" or "ASEAN":|

Geroplatanos
May 8th, 2005, 10:18 PM
Next time, don't make a stupid garbage title about the "metro trainsets in EU"...its like making, "metro trainsets in OPEC countries" or "ASEAN":|

Dear KM sorry if you took it wrong.
I have no purpose to offend anybody.
The only reason is that from a short look i had at the urbanrail.net homepage i saw that most (allmost all) metro systems of eastern europe countries have not put in use new types of metro trainsets.
And i think this is true (perhaps with the exception of the capital of Russia)
This thread is not about metro systems generally but ONLY for NEW TYPE METRO TRAINSETS.
So please dont missunderstand me , i did not use the term EU just to make a distinction from the other countries , ok? :)

Bitxofo
May 9th, 2005, 03:42 AM
The newest metro trains in Amsterdam are the 37 'Ringlijn' cars, built between 1996 and 1997 by CAF in Madrid. Unfortunately, their design is a little bit boring. When I take a look at other CAF designs (like Madrid, Barcelona, Roma) it makes me a little bit jealous...;)


CAF give some ideas but the final design is choosen by the metro company...
;)

Mojito
May 9th, 2005, 10:32 AM
^^That's true...The GVB (Amsterdam Public Transport Company) is not rich, and wants everything as cheap as possible (remember the purchase of 155 desintegrating Siemens Combino's...) so that could be a reason for this dull design...

But what is more important: these trains are very reliable. They are much better than the (ugly) Bombardier Light Rail / Metro hybrid-cars which were built a few years earlier, and which are of poor quality.

Bitxofo
May 11th, 2005, 12:28 AM
The new trains for Barcelona Metro, made by CAF, started to arrive today 10/5/2005:
:happy:
http://tinypic.com/51dg78
:)
http://tinypic.com/51dg8o
:)
http://tinypic.com/51dgcn
:)
http://tinypic.com/51dgeg
:)
http://tinypic.com/51dgfs
:wink2:
This new trains are for line 5, the blue line.
I hope you like them!
;)

Photos from www.laptp.org

Frog
May 11th, 2005, 12:50 AM
Not really something outstanding. But a very nice metro train all the same, I like the addition of the TV's I havent seen that on many metros :)

Nephasto
May 11th, 2005, 02:39 AM
It's really nice Barcelona is getting new trains! :)

The exterior is nothing special, but the interiors are very very good! :D

Bitxofo
May 11th, 2005, 03:10 AM
More photos from www.laptp.org
:happy:
http://tinypic.com/51er8k
:)
http://tinypic.com/51erlz
:)
http://tinypic.com/51ernk
:)
http://tinypic.com/51errb
:)
http://tinypic.com/51ersh
:)
http://tinypic.com/51ertv
:)
http://tinypic.com/51erv5
:)
http://tinypic.com/51et60
^^This last photo is from the trains running now on line 5
:wink2:
Do you like them?
;)

Pics from:
www.laptp.org
www.tramvia.org/elmetro

DonQui
May 11th, 2005, 04:08 AM
I look at these trainsets, and I want to shoot the people in the NYC MTA for their incompetence. :guns1:

IGH
May 11th, 2005, 12:00 PM
New MF2000, in Paris. To be delivered from 2006 to 2014 for lines 2, 5 and 9 :

http://www.metro-pole.net/expl/materiel/mf2000/IMG/jpg/mf_2000_1024_.jpg
http://www.navily.net/images/mf2000int.jpg
http://www.navily.net/images/mf2000maq.jpg

By 2010, MP89 (pictures shown at the begining of the thread) will be replaced on the line 1 by new automatic metro (an updated version of the automatic MP89 avaible on the line 14). Actual non automatic MP89 will go to line 4 (and maybee line 11).

Tubeman
May 11th, 2005, 05:30 PM
Why are the windows so small though on the tube stock?

The entire Victoria Line is deep-level tunnel, the only part at surface level is Northumberland Park Depot. Not much to look at therefore!

Re: Door controls on trains

The first recent trains to introduce them (open only) were District Line D (1978) and Jubilee Line 1983 Stocks (the latter now scrapped). 1992, 1995 and 1996 all also had open buttons but 1992 Central Line stocks were unique in having close buttons too. They were all decomissioned in about 2000... My first winter on the District Line as a driver passenger door controls were in operation, but I seem to recall that was the last winter they were in use.

I was never too sure why... I can see the logic of not having close buttons to prevent malicious use, but in the winter running out to the far east end of the District Line where loading is very light it seems daft the way all doors open at all stations letting the heat out.

ch1le
May 11th, 2005, 05:32 PM
i can understand metrotrains that run above ground aswell as below ground... but if some metros are only or mostly underground i dont see why anyone ought to pay for a design rearly seen...

superchan7
May 11th, 2005, 08:28 PM
Berlin's new trains look quite sleek. Munich's new trains, as few in number as they are, look pretty neat too (I think they look a bit fat and clumsy from the outside). London Underground's tube stock, of course, always sets the benchmark in trains that look like no other.

Bitxofo
May 19th, 2005, 06:39 PM
UP!!
More pics, please!
:wink2:

Bitxofo
June 4th, 2005, 03:51 AM
Barcelona 2/6/2005

Model of the 5000 trainset series for line 5:
;)
http://tinypic.com/5m0977
:)
http://tinypic.com/5m09d3
:)
http://tinypic.com/5m0aon
:)
http://tinypic.com/5m0av8
:)
http://tinypic.com/5m0awp
:)
http://tinypic.com/5m0ayo
:)
http://tinypic.com/5m0b5z
:)
http://tinypic.com/5m0bac
:)
http://tinypic.com/5m0bc1
:wink2:
Look at the handsome boy in blue!!
:D

Bitxofo
June 9th, 2005, 04:58 AM
Come on guys!
More new trains, please.
:wink2:

DonQui
June 9th, 2005, 05:01 AM
why do I get stuck with shite metro trainsets here! >(

Petr
June 9th, 2005, 01:20 PM
Praha (Prague) - Siemens M 1 (delivered 2000 -2005) - 48 trains/240 cars

http://www.metroweb.cz/metro/M1/P000003.JPG

http://www.metroweb.cz/metro/M1/DOD-054.JPG

Warszawa (Warsaw) - Alstom Metropolis 98 (delivered 2000 -2005) - 18 trains/108 cars

http://metro.civ.pl/foto/Stacja%20Techniczno%20Postojowa/IMGP2248.JPG

http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Dworzec%20Gdanski/PC300145.JPG

http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Kabaty/IMGP2043.JPG

Petr
June 9th, 2005, 01:25 PM
Next time, don't make a stupid garbage title about the "metro trainsets in EU"...its like making, "metro trainsets in OPEC countries" or "ASEAN":|
:fiddle:

Principes
June 9th, 2005, 02:22 PM
Very nice sets.

Anekdote
June 9th, 2005, 04:44 PM
Vienna "Type V"

http://www.wien.gv.at/stadtentwicklung/verkehrsmasterplan/positionspapier/images/ubahnneu.jpg

http://www.wienplan.com/24online/n157/bilder/13_1.jpg

http://www.wienplan.com/24online/n157/bilder/13_2.jpg

http://www.wienplan.com/24online/n157/bilder/13_3.jpg

Bitxofo
June 9th, 2005, 09:13 PM
Praha new trains look very spartan...
:(
Why?
:?

superchan7
June 9th, 2005, 09:18 PM
Spartan?! I would hardly agree...

Petr
June 9th, 2005, 11:04 PM
Praha new trains look very spartan...
:(
Why?
:?
My impression is also rather negative, maybe because of the colours... :dunno:

Bitxofo
June 28th, 2005, 10:24 PM
UP!!
;)

_tictac_
June 28th, 2005, 11:05 PM
...And up it goes! :tongue3:
Some photos of the fully automatic (driverless) metro in Copenhagen.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/cph_metro_2.jpg
Typical design of the stations underground.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/cph_metro_4.jpg
Entrance to a station underground.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/cph_metro_3.jpg
Elevated tracks running through the new Orestad City.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/cph_metro_5.jpg
Elevated (above ground) transit hub station where 2 S-train lines and 1 Metro line intersect.

edubejar
June 28th, 2005, 11:06 PM
These new Paris trainset model will be delivered from 2006-2014 on lines 2, 5 and 9? Ok but was this a test or is line 2 already circulating these? Why are they planning this model for lines 2, 5 and 9 instead of the new model running on lines 1 and 14? Is it because these lines can't support the rubber-tire model? Or is it just to keep the different-train-style tradition typical of the Paris métro?


http://www.metro-pole.net/expl/materiel/mf2000/IMG/jpg/mf_2000_1024_.jpg

micro
June 28th, 2005, 11:47 PM
Here's another photo of what I think is one of the newer trains in London (Central Line).

http://img16.echo.cx/img16/9656/londontrain1lx.jpg

staff
June 29th, 2005, 12:12 AM
The interior of the real Copenhagen metro trains look like this:
http://www.design-for-all.org/images/Metro1.jpg
Sorry, it is a bad image that I found on Google.

The S-Tog interior is very nice, but it is not a metro, even though it is running like a metro under many parts of Copenhagen.

_tictac_
June 29th, 2005, 12:26 AM
The interior of the real Copenhagen metro trains look like this:
http://www.design-for-all.org/images/Metro1.jpg
Sorry, it is a bad image that I found on Google.

The S-Tog interior is very nice, but it is not a metro, even though it is running like a metro under many parts of Copenhagen.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/tictac2k1/cph_metro_int_1.jpg

DiggerD21
June 29th, 2005, 01:15 AM
Hamburg's newest trainset: DT 4.5 (http://www.u-bahn-hamburg.com/html/dt_4_5.html)

They were introduced in August 2002 and are only different in their interior design, economic efficiency from the older DT4 (introduced 1989.)

IGH
June 29th, 2005, 02:59 PM
These new Paris trainset model will be delivered from 2006-2014 on lines 2, 5 and 9? Ok but was this a test or is line 2 already circulating these? Why are they planning this model for lines 2, 5 and 9 instead of the new model running on lines 1 and 14? Is it because these lines can't support the rubber-tire model? Or is it just to keep the different-train-style tradition typical of the Paris métro?


exactly, this is because lines 1 and 14 are rubber-tire metro and have a specific model (MP89). Lines 4, 6 and 11 are also rubber-tire and could have such models in the future (actually, line 4 may be equiped with these MP89 by 2010 because of the automatisation of line 1 that will be equiped with the automatic version)

This model MF2000 is to replace other classic lines. The picture i show was fake, it was just an illustration, but real tests have just began :

http://www.trains-idf.host-gratuit.net/imgr/MF2000%282%29.jpg
http://www.trains-idf.host-gratuit.net/imgr/mf2000%283%29.jpg
http://www.trains-idf.host-gratuit.net/imgr/mf2000%285%29.jpg

Bitxofo
June 29th, 2005, 07:09 PM
^^Beautiful Paris new metro train!^^
;)

Bitxofo
July 17th, 2005, 06:38 PM
Go up!!
;)

Bitxofo
July 18th, 2005, 06:09 AM
New train for Barcelona line 5, running one week ago:
;)
http://tinypic.com/8zqlpx.jpg
:)
Photo by Ricard Riol, from:
www.laptp.org
:wink2:

DaDvD
July 18th, 2005, 11:05 PM
Bitxo, how many cars have been delivered?

Bitxofo
July 19th, 2005, 02:52 AM
Bitxo, how many cars have been delivered?

The 1st train this month of July, then one more train every month up to 34 trains!
;)

DaDvD
July 20th, 2005, 12:13 AM
The 1st train this month of July, then one more train every month up to 34 trains!
;)
Thanks!
Nice trains for BCN! I like'em really much!

Bitxofo
July 30th, 2005, 02:04 PM
New train for Barcelona line 5, running one week ago:
;)
http://tinypic.com/8zqlpx.jpg
:)
Photo by Ricard Riol, from:
www.laptp.org
:wink2:

Each one of these new trains costs:
5.5 million EUR.
How much are yours?
:?

cal_t
July 31st, 2005, 01:38 PM
As I right to say that the red metro stock (Barcelona) posted draws power from non conventional overhead, ie non wire overhead, rather a continous live metal rail? Wouldn't this be more expensive to maintain? :S

Bitxofo
July 31st, 2005, 07:02 PM
As I right to say that the red metro stock (Barcelona) posted draws power from non conventional overhead, ie non wire overhead, rather a continous live metal rail? Wouldn't this be more expensive to maintain? :S
It was 3rd rail power, on the floor. But they changed to rigid overhead wire in 2002 for all the metro lines!
They say it's easy and cheaper to maintain.
;)

Bitxofo
September 7th, 2005, 05:51 AM
New Barcelona line 5 train yesterday 6/9/2005:
:D
http://tinypic.com/dfjced.jpg
:)
http://tinypic.com/dfje3b.jpg
:)
This is me:
http://tinypic.com/dfje6p.jpg
:)
http://tinypic.com/dfjedx.jpg
:wink2:

willo
September 8th, 2005, 01:23 PM
^^ the metro was entirely empty ?¿?¿?¿¿? :runaway:

Bitxofo
September 8th, 2005, 06:04 PM
^^ the metro was entirely empty ?¿?¿?¿¿? :runaway:
The metro train was very full, but I waited to arrive to the terminus station to take the photos!!
:wink2:

DonQui
September 9th, 2005, 08:26 AM
As I right to say that the red metro stock (Barcelona) posted draws power from non conventional overhead, ie non wire overhead, rather a continous live metal rail? Wouldn't this be more expensive to maintain? :S

this is featured in all Spanish metros.

Bitxofo
September 9th, 2005, 12:49 PM
this is featured in all Spanish metros.
75% of Barcelona metro lines had got 3rd rail power supply until the year 2002! Now all have got rigid overhead wire.
;)

picassoborseli
September 18th, 2005, 04:27 PM
CAF RULZZZ!

NorthStar77
September 19th, 2005, 04:51 PM
We're getting new trainsets next year, same trains as in Vienna. They are beeing tested as we speak. 33 trainsets have been ordered, and we'll probably get 30 more. Test in Oslo will start this autumn.

From the production in Vienna
http://www.sporveien.no/upload/bilder/tbane/vogntyper/MX_mockup_400.jpg

http://www.sporveien.no/upload/mx_produksjonshall_440.jpg

http://www.sporveien.no/upload/bilder/tbane/vogntyper/mx_montering_innv.jpg

From tests in Germany
http://www.sporveien.no/upload/bilder/tbane/MX%20Wildenrath/helfigur_WR.jpg

http://www.sporveien.no/upload/bilder/tbane/MX%20Wildenrath/ved_plattform_WR.jpg

Testing for Norwegian conditions; -10 and lots of snow
http://www.sporveien.no/upload/bilder/tbane/mx_arsenal/minus10_våtsnø.jpg

http://www.sporveien.no/upload/bilder/tbane/mx_arsenal/minus10_under.jpg

-25C and ice
http://www.sporveien.no/upload/bilder/tbane/mx_arsenal/minus25_is.JPG

-20 and dry weather
http://www.sporveien.no/upload/bilder/tbane/mx_arsenal/minus20_tørt.jpg

DaDvD
September 19th, 2005, 08:27 PM
Cooool trains those for Oslo!

staff
September 21st, 2005, 09:39 PM
As about the S-Tog of Copenhagen it is a commuter rail but i read it runs like a metro in the city, anyway we can take it out of the competition.
:) (nice interior though! )
Why shouldn't the Copenhagen S-bane (the correct name is actually Bybanen - city rail) be considered Metro? It is sometimes considered a commuter train system, but is different from other commuter rails, since it fulfills the metro definition on www.urbanrail.net:

1) CPH S-tog is an urban electric mass rail transport system, and is primarily used to move within the city.
2) CPH S-tog system is totally independent from other traffic, rail or street traffic.
3) CPH S-tog have high frequency service (maximum interval approx. 10 minutes during normal daytime service).

There you go. :)

This means that Copenhagen actually has 2 rail systems of metro standard - S-tog and the Metro. Interesting is that S-tog became a full scale metro system before (the rail became totally independent from other traffic in 2000) the Metro was inaugurated (2002).

S-tog:
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/kob/s-tog-centralstation1.jpg
Interior:
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/kob/s-tog-inside1.jpg

Metro:
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/kob/m-train1.jpg
Interior:
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/kob/m-train2.jpg

GENIUS LOCI
October 16th, 2005, 01:17 PM
We are waiting now for this trainset to replace old ones in line 1 and line 2 of MILAN metro

http://www.msrmilano.com/images/ATM_MNG.jpg

The new trains with six multiple voltage bodies for the Milano’s metro belong to the “MNG” family (New Generation Metro) and are called “Meneghino”. They are equipped with 2 identical traction units formed by two electric motorcars without driver cabs and a trailer equipped with driver’s cab. The electric railcars are equipped with bitension inverter drives adapted to run on electrified 750 V DC lines fed by third and fourth rails and on those fed with a 1500 V DC overhead line. The trains are air-conditioned both on passenger and driver’s cab with independent installations. All the train’s six sets are equipped with vast and comfortable gangways. The braking system uses both electric regenerative or dissipative on the motor axles, and mechanical disk and electromagnetic pads; the parking brake uses the “spring” system. The eight access doors present on each body are automatic with electric remote door control for enabling, opening and closing The auxiliary services at 380 V AC and 24 V DC of each traction unit are fed with special redundant static generators installed on the trailer with driver’s cab.

http://www.firema.it/ContentServer/1-0,614,0,0.html

GENIUS LOCI
October 16th, 2005, 01:20 PM
Catania, Sicily (ITALY)

http://www.firema.it/contenuti/immagini/imgdb/Prodotti/FCMM88.jpg

The twin-set traction unit M88 Type was designed and built by Firema Trasporti for the new Metro line in Catania (Sicily): The traction unit M88 is reversible and is therefore equipped with two driver cabs. The traction drive uses a GTO inverter with asynchronous three-phase air-cooled motors, and a motor for each axle. The braking system is equipped with an electric regenerative and rheostatic system, mechanical disk brakes on all axles and electromagnetic pad braking. The traction unit is equipped with two static auxiliary generators of conversion 3 kV DC/380 V AC 50 Hz, with 85 kVA each, and batterycharger. The driver’s cab and passenger compartments are equipped with air-conditioned separate installations. The traction unit is equipped with sixteen automatic sliding plug access doors; eight for each side, loading deck is at 1100 mm from the rail giving ground access from the platform level. At the end of each traction unit there are automatic permanent couplers, the two bodies of the traction unit are coupled with a rigid connecting bar. The secondary suspensions of the bogies are pneumatic autotolevelling. The traction units can be coupled by using multiple commands.

http://www.firema.it/contenuti/immagini/imgdb/Gallery/61noname.jpg

http://www.firema.it/ContentServer/1-0,274,0,0.html

GENIUS LOCI
October 16th, 2005, 01:22 PM
Napoli (ITALY)

http://www.firema.it/contenuti/immagini/imgdb/Prodotti/ETRCircumvesuviana.jpg

The new electric trains for the Ferrovia Circumvesuviana are three-body articulate trains with a “roundabout” gangway on the bogies. Driven by IGBT three-phase inverter with three independent air-cooled inverters. Each electric train is equipped with two generators for auxiliary purposes at 380 V AC 50 Hz with batterycharger. The electric train is equipped with electric regenerative and dissipative braking on all the motor axles and mechanical disk braking on all the axles, with two disk brakes for each axle externally mounted on the wheels. The train is completely air-conditioned, both in the passenger compartments and the driver’s cab. The access doors are automatic, electric controlled and servo assisted. These electric trains are for metro/suburban use only therefore will be produced without toilets. Carriage loading is at ground platform level at 1100 mm from the rail level. At the end of the driver’s cab is the automatic permanent coupler. The bogies are equipped with secondary auto-levelling pneumatic suspensions.

http://www.firema.it/ContentServer/1-0,277,0,0.html

GENIUS LOCI
October 16th, 2005, 01:25 PM
Genova (ITALY)

http://www.firema.it/contenuti/immagini/imgdb/Prodotti/metro_ge.jpg

The electric motorcar T 67 is a bidirectional, articulated, twin-body type for the Genoa’s metro network. The body is in light alloy; the bogies are equipped with secondary pneumatic autolevelling suspensions, and electromagnetic pad emergency braking. Traction control is a chopper GTO. The access automatic doors are sliding, plug type. The two end-walls are equipped with an automatic permanent coupler for the coupling with other similar vehicles capable in travelling by multiple command. The loading deck is at 850mm for ground access at platform level.

http://www.firema.it/ContentServer/1-0,265,0,0.html

Foley
October 28th, 2005, 06:54 AM
Next time, don't make a stupid garbage title about the "metro trainsets in EU"...its like making, "metro trainsets in OPEC countries" or "ASEAN":|

What's wrong with it? Let Geroplatanos decide what to do..

Bitxofo
December 7th, 2005, 04:41 AM
More!!
:yes:

Metropolitan
December 9th, 2005, 12:09 PM
Not properly a subway but so close to be one. Here is the MI2N from Alsthom operated on Paris http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-A_17.gif and http://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER_17.gifhttp://www.metro-pole.net/x/RER-E_17.gif lines.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b2/RER_E_-_Haussmann.jpg

http://mapage.noos.fr/gogf/RER/RER-E_Haussmann.jpg

http://mapage.noos.fr/gogf/RER/RER-A_Chatelet_2.jpg

http://mapage.noos.fr/gogf/RER/RER-A_Etoile_4.jpg

http://mapage.noos.fr/gogf/RER/RER-A_Etoile_3.jpg

phubben
December 16th, 2005, 12:18 AM
Lille's Siemens VAL208 trains make a great noise when they accelerate and brake!... a kind of melodic whistle!

http://www.subways.net/france/lille/val208.JPG

grg1992
January 24th, 2006, 04:42 AM
Wow! The trains of Barcelona are so beautiful and modern!

:applause: to Barcelona!!

AleksiFIN
January 24th, 2006, 07:29 AM
http://www.seisake.net/kuva.php?tiedosto=m200_2.jpg

http://www.seisake.net/kuva.php?tiedosto=m200_poikkeus_kontula.jpg

http://www.seisake.net/kuva.php?tiedosto=m200_4.jpg

http://www.seisake.net/kuva.php?tiedosto=m200_7.jpg

http://www.seisake.net/kuva.php?tiedosto=m200_19.jpg

http://www.seisake.net/kuva.php?tiedosto=m200_17.jpg


Helsinki, Finland. M200 series trains.

Minato ku
January 24th, 2006, 01:15 PM
Real screen of MF 2000

http://www.trains-idf.net/imgr/mf2000(5).jpg
http://193.192.240.14/newsmem/20minf/20060109/web_02.pdf.0/img/Image_2.jpg

Metropolitan
January 24th, 2006, 01:37 PM
Real screen of MF 2000

http://www.trains-idf.net/imgr/mf2000(5).jpg
http://193.192.240.14/newsmem/20minf/20060109/web_02.pdf.0/img/Image_2.jpgThanks for this Minato Ku !

It's the first picture of the MF 2000 I see. Well, of course there are better-looking rolling stocks in the world but at least the MF 2000 are optimized for interior space. :)

UT596001
January 25th, 2006, 05:12 PM
6) Barcelona

http://de.geocities.com/m_barcel/img/l8-espanya1.jpg



Eh... this train runs in line 8, operated by FGC. By the same track runs suburban services (trains to Martorell anb Olesa de Montserrat) and Regional trains (trains to Manresa/Igualada, 65-70 km from Barcelona), by the same EMU-train of the foto. See one of this in Monistrol de Montserrat (Manresa line), about 50 km from Barcelona:

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/1506/130106422ws.jpg

In Barcelona-Vallès line, in a few periodes of the day runs trains of 112-emu serial, the most modern train in the line, on line L6 Pl.Catalunya-Reina Elisenda. Never in line L7 Pl.Catalunya-Av.Tibidabo.

Image on La Floresta, out Barcelona. In the next days I go to Reina Elisenda to do a photo in service in L6 line:

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7540/081205237hf.jpg

The photos added by Bitxofo runs on TMB lines, at lines 2, 3 and 5.

Petronius
January 26th, 2006, 03:08 AM
Porto

http://valentimloureiro.blogs.sapo.pt/arquivo/metro.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/parutakupiu/Porto/Gaia/Gaia16.jpg

p.s. the bridge is obviously not new. It was built in the late 19th century.

Petronius
January 26th, 2006, 03:15 AM
and Metro do Porto, Porto's Metro COmpany has just ordered some 20 of these Bombardier's flexity Link (train-trams) to operate in the two new long distance lines connecting Porto to Póvoa do Varzim, some 20 km up North.

http://www.bombardier.com/en/1_0/ml/3596/2_Flexity_Link_Saarbrucken.jpg

Bitxofo
January 26th, 2006, 06:01 AM
and Metro do Porto, Porto's Metro COmpany has just ordered some 20 of these Bombardier's flexity Link (train-trams) to operate in the two new longer distance lines connecting Porto to Póvoa do Varzim, some 20 km up North.

http://www.bombardier.com/en/1_0/ml/3596/2_Flexity_Link_Saarbrucken.jpg
^^Ugly tram!^^
:(
I prefer the black & yellow Porto tram!! ;)
:yes:

NorthStar77
January 26th, 2006, 09:52 AM
FINALLY, a dream come true!!!!!!

Today I sat on one of the new MX3000, wich started test-driving in regular traffic yesterday:banana:

http://www.sporveien.no/upload/bilder/tbane/vogntyper/mx_nydalen.JPG

http://www.sporveien.no/upload/bilder/tbane/mx_oslotest/mx_gmlogny_mort_h.JPG

http://www.tbane.no/images/268155.jpg

Petronius
January 26th, 2006, 03:17 PM
^^Ugly tram!^^
:(
I prefer the black & yellow Porto tram!! ;)
:yes:

you think so? I'm curious to see them in operation. From what I've seen in pictures, I don't dislike them.

cal_t
January 26th, 2006, 04:06 PM
FINALLY, a dream come true!!!!!!

Today I sat on one of the new MX3000, wich started test-driving in regular traffic yesterday

Are those Siemens Mo.Mo stock with Annax PIDs?

sbarn
January 26th, 2006, 04:08 PM
I think this train is awesome:

http://img108.echo.cx/img108/6547/ssltrain1bg1jm.jpg

phubben
January 26th, 2006, 04:16 PM
[QUOTE=Petronius]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/parutakupiu/Porto/Gaia/Gaia16.jpg

QUOTE]


WOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW!!!! :eek2:
Never seen something like that before!!! It's awesome... makes me wanna cry!!!

NorthStar77
January 26th, 2006, 04:22 PM
Are those Siemens Mo.Mo stock with Annax PIDs?

That was too technical for me, but yes it is Siemens. And it's the same type of trains that is on Vienna metro. A few sets are here and will test run for 3-4 months, and then be sent back to Germany/Austria for further improvement, until they will finally be delivered early next year. 63 sets are ordered(189 wagons) and under production.

Petronius
January 26th, 2006, 09:37 PM
[QUOTE=Petronius]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/parutakupiu/Porto/Gaia/Gaia16.jpg

QUOTE]


WOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW!!!! :eek2:
Never seen something like that before!!! It's awesome... makes me wanna cry!!!

thanks! it is nicer to be on it when it's crossing the bridge. the views are impressive.

Falubaz
January 26th, 2006, 09:56 PM
I think this train is awesome:

http://img108.echo.cx/img108/6547/ssltrain1bg1jm.jpg

ehehhe, i don't like this train. it looks like a barrel and not like a ordinary metro train.

Bitxofo
June 11th, 2006, 12:04 AM
...

Minato ku
June 11th, 2006, 02:02 AM
MF 2000

http://www.metro-pole.net/actu/IMG/jpg/Img_4275_p600.jpg


MS 61 ( Old train renovated )

Old
http://metro.free.fr/big/461.jpg

Renovated
http://www.metro-pole.net/actu/IMG/jpg/4729-ms61-entier2646.jpg

Bitxofo
June 11th, 2006, 03:22 AM
^^This thread is for metro trains, MINATO.
;)
RER is NOT metro!
:wink2:

Bitxofo
June 11th, 2006, 03:23 AM
New train of 9000 series for Barcelona line 9, arriving to BCN this week:
;)
http://i5.tinypic.com/13zwo5s.jpg
^^This train will run in line 2 first, because line 9 is still under construction.^^
:wink2:

Falubaz
June 11th, 2006, 10:57 AM
MF 2000

http://www.metro-pole.net/actu/IMG/jpg/Img_4275_p600.jpg

...

:O eek2

is this new type already running??? which line does it serve????

@Bixtofo, u'r right, but u know also, that the RER C is like a metro infra muros, with several stations, serving the city, independent from other means of transportation, and with very good frequences. thats the metro-service, isn't it? ( similar to london tube service on metropolitan and northern lines, but much more faster )

Minato ku
June 11th, 2006, 02:53 PM
MF 2000 don't already run for public
It is a test .

It will be severve lines 2 5 and 9.

Bitxofo
June 11th, 2006, 07:44 PM
:O eek2

is this new type already running??? which line does it serve????

@Bixtofo, u'r right, but u know also, that the RER C is like a metro infra muros, with several stations, serving the city, independent from other means of transportation, and with very good frequences. thats the metro-service, isn't it? ( similar to london tube service on metropolitan and northern lines, but much more faster )
OK Minato, I know it, I lived in Paris!
;)
But then count Barcelona FGC as a metro too, it is exactly like Paris RER!!
:wink2:

thib8500
June 12th, 2006, 03:30 PM
here is the metro in Lyon (France)

http://images.nycsubway.org//i22000/img_22933.jpg

the old one (still in use)
http://images.nycsubway.org//i49000/img_49215.jpg

and the new one
http://www.lyon-en-lignes.org/Articles/Lemetrolyonnais1/image002.jpg
http://images.nycsubway.org//i22000/img_22901.jpg

Minato ku
June 12th, 2006, 07:14 PM
You have not pics of MCL 80 renovated ( White and Red ) ?
because the MCL 80 orange are not the newest type of Metro in Lyon.

Mr Bricks
June 12th, 2006, 07:30 PM
Helsinki metro:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2631/2metrohelsinkifr4yl.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2metrohelsinkifr4yl.jpg)

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1975/helsinkimetrointerior6pu.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=helsinkimetrointerior6pu.jpg)

FabriFlorence
June 15th, 2006, 09:59 AM
Very beautiful the new train of 9000 series for Barcelona. Is it the same type that will run in Madrid?

Bitxofo
June 15th, 2006, 05:18 PM
^^No, it is different train made by different manufacturer company.
;)

TheBlackHawk*BG*
June 28th, 2006, 06:16 PM
Here's the only photo of the new Sofia Metro Trains that I was able to find. These trains have been operational for some months now,don't have any certain information about that.
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2506/skifsofia015di.jpg

Bitxofo
June 29th, 2006, 06:46 AM
^^Russian train, I guess.
;)

-Corey-
July 1st, 2006, 07:14 AM
nice

Bitxofo
July 5th, 2006, 01:45 AM
Barcelona new trains for line 9/10:
;)
http://i6.tinypic.com/1z5u45w.jpg
^^From PTP forum.^^
:wink2:

Bitxofo
July 7th, 2006, 04:13 AM
^^2 more photos of same new trains:
;)
http://i6.tinypic.com/1z5tgeb.jpg
:)
http://i6.tinypic.com/1z5u1du.jpg
:wink2:

Gag Halfrunt
July 7th, 2006, 05:46 PM
Here's the only photo of the new Sofia Metro Trains that I was able to find. These trains have been operational for some months now,don't have any certain information about that.
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2506/skifsofia015di.jpg
There are some more photos (http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/bg/metro/pix.html) of the new Sofia trains at RailfanEurope (scroll down the page).

Bitxofo
July 15th, 2006, 02:18 AM
New trains for Barcelona metro:
:happy:
Wow! menuda tanda de trenes:

Alvia + Civia + 9000 y sobretodo el primer metro de BCN: :drool:

Para completarlo, pongo un flamante 5000:

http://www.laptp.org/galeria/20060711-cotxeres_triangle/DSCN9120.jpg

La verdad es que en pocos años la flota de TMB no tendrá nada que ver con la que yo sufrí :colgate: me alegro!

De lado me gustan más los 9000 que los 5000, aunque ambos me encantan
http://www.laptp.org/galeria/20060711-cotxeres_triangle/DSCN9117.jpg

Interior 9000, con frikis :D No sabía que no habría ningun cristal entre la cabina y el resto del vagon. Va a quedar asi?
http://www.laptp.org/galeria/20060711-cotxeres_triangle/DSCN9115.jpg

Se confirma que van a la L2
http://www.laptp.org/galeria/20060711-cotxeres_triangle/DSCN9114.jpg

http://www.laptp.org/galeria/20060711-cotxeres_triangle/DSCN9113.jpg

La nova sèrie 9000 repetirà els estàndars de qualitat de la sèrie 5000 i és adaptada per a circular a qualsevol línia de Metro d'ample UIC
:)
And here, the newest and the oldest Barcelona metro train:
;)
Incluye fotos de la nueva serie 9000

http://www.laptp.org/galeria/20060711-cotxeres_triangle/DSCN9105.jpg

Y del primer metro de BCN, de 1924

http://www.laptp.org/galeria/20060711-cotxeres_triangle/DSCN9094.jpg

La galeria completa, en la web de la PTP:

http://www.laptp.org/galeria/20060711-cotxeres_triangle.htm
^^I love both!!^^
:drool::drool:

fosters son
August 13th, 2006, 09:33 PM
Which trains do people find the best?
For me its the London Underground just because of the shape of the them and the overall history associated with there design

elkram
August 13th, 2006, 10:01 PM
Victoria Line stock, to be delivered between 2009 and 2011:
http://img108.echo.cx/img108/1931/vicsidefront3ic.jpg
I really don't like this one -- reminds me of the padded-cell legacy. How about at least some strip windowing into the tilted,
ceiling sides?

Weirdo@Rotterdam
August 15th, 2006, 04:18 PM
I am honoured to see Rotterdam above the cool vehicles in Copenhagen and Stockholm on Geroplatanos's list.

Bitxofo
August 22nd, 2006, 06:26 PM
1st Barcelona 9000 series trains arrived yesterday, they are for line 9/10 but, as this line is still under construction, they will run in line 2 since next September, so line 2 will have trains every 2min.30sec. :)
http://i8.tinypic.com/259fwxs.jpg
^^Photo and comparison between these trains (2006) and old trains (1997).^^
:wink2:
This new trains are driverless, with automatic operation!! :eek::eek:
:runaway:

neuromancer
August 23rd, 2006, 01:37 AM
Nice design, I like it. I´ll see it soon.

filippone
December 16th, 2006, 06:41 PM
good photo...in italy isn't a simile spectacular metro-train and metro

FallenGuard
December 17th, 2006, 01:48 PM
Barcelona 9000 Series are nice!

city_thing
December 20th, 2006, 11:39 AM
http://tinypic.com/5m09d3

Did anyone else notice that the London tube map in this picture of Barcelona's new trains? Any reason for that?

Gag Halfrunt
December 20th, 2006, 03:31 PM
Did anyone else notice that the London tube map in this picture of Barcelona's new trains? Any reason for that?
It appears to be pasted over some kind of advertising panel or information display. They probably just wanted something metro-ish to fill the blank space for the photo. Maybe the Barcelona map wasn't the right shape.

Bitxofo
December 20th, 2006, 05:03 PM
http://tinypic.com/5m09d3

Did anyone else notice that the London tube map in this picture of Barcelona's new trains? Any reason for that?
That was an exhibition model!
;)

FREKI
December 21st, 2006, 08:03 PM
Might as well post a few pics of the Copenhagen Metro

Yes, it does also run underground, it's just not as suited for photos as the above ground areas :)

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6648/12jx4.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5585/04tt8.jpg

http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/687/15mt1.jpg¨

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5697/metrotk6.jpg

Yes, it's unmanned
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8264/13fh7.jpg


And the S-Train

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3196/03uj4.jpg

Bahnsteig4
December 25th, 2006, 07:53 PM
Vienna's new V-type trainsets. Not a lot of them in service yet, only on the lines U1 and U3.

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/5818/v01qw6.jpg

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7213/v02gn4.jpg

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/5080/v03sz4.jpg

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9986/v04lq7.jpg

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/7333/v05em9.jpg

Macius
December 28th, 2006, 02:30 PM
Warszawa
http://www.ztm.waw.pl/foto/3/m-1.jpg
http://metro.civ.pl/foto/stacja%20Wilanowska/IMGP2199.JPG
http://www.metro.waw.pl/grafika/dw_gdanski15.jpg
http://www.metro.waw.pl/grafika/dw_gdanski13.jpg
http://www.metro.waw.pl/grafika/pociag5.jpg

patroeski
December 29th, 2006, 05:09 AM
Brussels - Belgium

http://www.immagine.com/foto/brussel_metro_2.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/bru/1b-erasme1.jpg

These are the new ones. They will not replace the existing ones, but expand the capacity whit 15 sets:

http://www.ferromatos.net/MARCEL/BOA.jpg

Brussels also bought new Tram-sets:

http://users.skynet.be/bs605555/t3000_18-09-05/t3000_18-09-05_5.jpg

http://users.skynet.be/bs605555/t3000_18-09-05/t3000_18-09-05_7.jpg

http://users.skynet.be/bs605555/t3000_18-09-05/t3000_18-09-05_8.jpg

http://users.skynet.be/bs605555/t3000_18-09-05/t3000_18-09-05_9.jpg

http://users.skynet.be/bs605555/t3000_18-09-05/t3000_18-09-05_10.jpg

http://users.skynet.be/bs605555/t3000_18-09-05/t3000_18-09-05_18.jpg

Bahnsteig4
December 29th, 2006, 11:48 PM
These Brussels trams are "da shit".
Lovely.

Bahnsteig4
December 29th, 2006, 11:51 PM
It's great to witness that tram revival all over Europe. Sometimes a metro simply cannot compete.
If only the Viennese gov finally realized that as well...

Thermo
January 5th, 2007, 12:18 PM
These Brussels trams are "da shit".
Lovely.

It's all part of a major restyling of the Brussels public transport. Trams, buses and metros get a new "art nouveau"-style look. And I must say they look gorgeous, I'm very happy those ugly yellow buses and trams will disappear.

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/6013/dyn004original640480pjpmb6.jpg
(you can see a reflection of an old bus in this new bus)

Bitxofo
January 5th, 2007, 02:30 PM
^^Brussels transport system new look is much better!!
:okay:

micro
January 5th, 2007, 10:35 PM
Proposed DT5 train sets for Hamburg's subway to be ready for operation in 2009:

http://www.lok-report.de/images/galerien/Zeichnung_drawingDT5.jpg http://www.lok-report.de/images/galerien/Zeichnung_drawingDT5-innen_.jpg

patroeski
January 6th, 2007, 12:01 AM
^^ nice, it looks like Vienna's new V-type trainsets.

Bitxofo
January 6th, 2007, 02:07 PM
^^Same manufacturer, maybe?
:?

Swede
January 6th, 2007, 07:11 PM
Brussels also bought new Tram-sets:

http://users.skynet.be/bs605555/t3000_18-09-05/t3000_18-09-05_5.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/bs605555/t3000_18-09-05/t3000_18-09-05_7.jpg

Never been to Brussels, but here I am in one of those anyway :D
http://hem.bredband.net/torkel120/jag005.JPG

Stockholm borrowed one last august, basically part of a push for getting trams back here too (the tram ran on a touristy line, usually runs historic trams). It kinda worked, got media attention and made pretty much all the politicians say they're in favour of turning our busiest bus-line (60k/day) into a tram-line.

kub86
January 19th, 2007, 12:35 AM
Anybody familiar with Paris' metro 14 rolling stock? The automatic driverless ones?

I really like them, but it bugs me to death that I can't find any info on their car size. I just need to know the dimensions per car. Anyone??

Minato ku
January 19th, 2007, 01:09 AM
M14 rolling stock is pretty old now
more than 10 years old for the older and 7 years old for the most recent.
This name is the MP89 (it was develloped in 1989!!)

The newest metrotrainsets is the MF2000
The newest driverless rolling stock will be the MP05 (2011).

Minato ku
January 22nd, 2007, 12:13 AM
MF2000 with passengers.
It is under in test but it run (the others trains will be delivered in july 2007 after a delay of 3 years :bash: )

http://www.metro-pole.net/actu/IMG/jpg/2007-01-19_8437_MF2000_p600.jpg
http://www.metro-pole.net/actu/IMG/jpg/2007-01-19_8447_MF2000_p600.jpg
http://www.metro-pole.net/actu/IMG/jpg/2007-01-17_8413_MF2000_p600.jpg
http://www.metro-pole.net/actu/IMG/jpg/2007-01-19_8461_MF2000_SISVE_p300.jpghttp://www.metro-pole.net/actu/IMG/jpg/2007-01-19_8450_MF2000_p300.jpg

Mojito
January 23rd, 2007, 12:02 PM
London Underground S–Stock

Browsing on the internet, I found on the Metronetrail.co.uk site these new London Underground Bombardier built S-Stock impressions.

Exterior:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4052/sstockext2cz.jpg

Inter-car gangway:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7149/sstockintercargangway8ht.jpg

Transverse seating area:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9602/sstocktransverseseating2kj.jpg

Wheelchair area:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6900/sstockwheelchairarea1ui.jpg

Multi-purpose area:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8020/sstockwideaisleandmulti9ot.jpg

(All pictures from Bombardier and Metronetrail)

These new sub-surface trains will replace all outdated A60/A62- and C69/C77-stock, and later on also the D78 stock trains, and enter service on the Metropolitan, Hammersmith & City, Circle and District Lines (not the new East London Line, which will become part of London Overground) between 2009 and 2015. They will be delivered as seven-car walk through trains and will feature air conditioning and regenerative brakes.

Mojito
January 23rd, 2007, 12:28 PM
London Underground - Tube 2009 stock

And in addition, some real-scale mock-up interior pictures of the new Tube 2009 stock, which will replace the 1967 Tube stock on the Victoria Line, between 2009 and 2012, and in future maybe the 1972 and 1973 Tube stocks on Bakerloo and Piccadilly Lines too.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/86/211241981_840dac6eaf.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/63/206411521_a68830e14f.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/84/206411519_03b3e4942b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/60/206411518_0a9859c238.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/67/206411524_8cb96ccf64.jpg

(all pictures from stephenk1977 / flickr.com)

Bitxofo
January 23rd, 2007, 06:03 PM
^^Not bad, except the interior decoration and colours...
:sly:

Minato ku
January 23rd, 2007, 07:16 PM
It is not really a new subway but a renovation of an older type
Renovated MF77

Those photo was taken by an RATp driver a years ago (the front of train sould be a bit different)
http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/5222/dsc00712web26ob.jpg
http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/6656/dsc00706web45nx.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/4026/dsc00701web65po.jpg

Like the MF 2000 and the MF 67 renovated of the line 3 those will have this
qQUBpFuLBtE

but not LCD screens like one MP89 train (number 38) on the line 1, MF2000 trains and new MP05 trains (2009)

MP 89 number 38 (sorry for the bad quality but I found only this in internet.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Dilidam.JPG/800px-Dilidam.JPG
MF2000
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/MF_2000_-_ASVA.jpg/800px-MF_2000_-_ASVA.jpg

Nephasto
January 24th, 2007, 03:38 AM
London Underground - Tube 2009 stock

And in addition, some real-scale mock-up interior pictures of the new Tube 2009 stock, which will replace the 1967 Tube stock on the Victoria Line, between 2009 and 2012, and in future maybe the 1972 and 1973 Tube stocks on Bakerloo and Piccadilly Lines too.

(all pictures from stephenk1977 / flickr.com)


The windows look very small (even for a tube stock)... but that's just maybe my impression.

It's a shame they didn't opt for a trains with interconnected(walk-through style) carrieges for the new tube stock. :(
I know that was considered, but at the end it seems they opted for just another tube stock... which is basicly the same as the 95/96 tube stocks...

Cloudship
January 24th, 2007, 04:41 AM
Anyone have pictures of Marseilles new trams?

Bitxofo
April 1st, 2007, 06:47 PM
Barcelona 6000 series under construction, starting service in May 2007 in line1:
:eek:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8743/frontal6000la9.jpg
:)
http://i11.tinypic.com/4796uco.jpg
^^One of the widest metros in the world: 3.20-3.30 metres.^^
:eek:

hix
April 1st, 2007, 08:28 PM
Never been to Brussels, but here I am in one of those anyway :D


Stockholm borrowed one last august, basically part of a push for getting trams back here too (the tram ran on a touristy line, usually runs historic trams). It kinda worked, got media attention and made pretty much all the politicians say they're in favour of turning our busiest bus-line (60k/day) into a tram-line.
I've been in Stockholm (Great ****!) and I think I saw at least two tram lines. Are they closed? I believe Stockholm would be perpect for a couple of modern tramlines in addition of the amazing metro-system.
By the way this is a picture of the *** metrotrains for Brussels. Made in Spain.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2984/2006boagk8.jpg

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9129/20061019102852bruselas0mu8.jpg

and another pictures of the newest Brussels trams

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1435/trammansketi7.jpg

Swede
April 1st, 2007, 09:20 PM
I've been in Stockholm (Great ****!) and I think I saw at least two tram lines. Are they closed? I believe Stockholm would be perpect for a couple of modern tramlines in addition of the amazing metro-system.
There's a couple LRT lines and a couple old suburban tram lines (both using LRT cars nowadays) in the inner suburbs, could be those you saw. One does run almost all the way to the Old Town. And, yeah Stockholm would be a perfect fit for more modern trams. There's a longterm plan to replace at least the busiest busline (maybe as many as 5) with trams, that's part of the reason they got the Brussels tram to do a cameo at the end of summer. Reactions from those that tried it were, iirc, extremely positive. Replacing the #4 bus with a tram line is exepcted to take ridership from 60k/day to over 100k/day.

Douly
April 2nd, 2007, 04:35 AM
Marseille :

Marseille's RTM subways are currently being renovated.

http://images.photomania.com/50275/1/rad46213.jpg

Here is one for the Ipod campaign.

http://www.mac4ever.com/images/images_actu/28879_1622.jpg

http://www.mac4ever.com/images/images_actu/28879_1631.jpg

Napo
April 2nd, 2007, 12:51 PM
Barcelona's trains are very ugly :ohno:

m@rco
April 2nd, 2007, 04:58 PM
The new VAL line (3.2km) in Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport will open tomorrow


The line:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/CDGVAL.svg/767px-CDGVAL.svg.png


VAL 208 NG:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Cdgval_val208_terminalT3.jpg/800px-Cdgval_val208_terminalT3.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Cdgval_2rames_val208_terminalT3.jpg/800px-Cdgval_2rames_val208_terminalT3.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Cdgval_val208_gareTGV_3.jpg/800px-Cdgval_val208_gareTGV_3.jpg

DanielFigFoz
April 2nd, 2007, 06:47 PM
Cool! Is it just me or are the Praha ones very wide??

Bitxofo
April 3rd, 2007, 06:04 AM
Barcelona's trains are very ugly :ohno:
Which ones?
:?
9000 series are very beautiful and 5000 series are nice, 6000 series are a bit strange though...
;)

city_thing
April 4th, 2007, 09:39 AM
http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/duitsland/berlyn/ubaan/02/images/bvg-ubaan-gerritprins20040925berlyn2179.JPG

These metro trains are brilliant. They're not segmented like with other trains, so if you stand at the back of them, you can see right down to the very front, meaning you can watch the train twist and turn through the tunnels.

And Berlin has some very twisty tunnels indeed!

Isek
April 4th, 2007, 12:55 PM
The length of the "ET 423" is 67,4 m.

The length of the Berlin "Baureihe H" is 98.7 m.

The length of the Munich "C-Wagen" is 114.2 m.


What's the longest continous subway train in the world?

Bitxofo
April 9th, 2007, 05:00 PM
Barcelona new 9000 series train, in line 2:
;)
http://i14.tinypic.com/487rkfs.jpg
:drool::drool:

iampuking
April 10th, 2007, 08:22 PM
^^Not bad, except the interior decoration and colours...
:sly:

What don't you like about it? I like it personally... i'm glad they've kept the traditional moquette yet updated the design. If they got rid of the garish seat covers then it wouldn't look like The Tube, it would look like... well... every other interior photo on here! It also serves a purpose: line branding. There are so many lines on the LU that it helps visitors, if you get on a tube and the poles/seats are pale blue, then you know you're on the Victoria Line. Although this does not work for the Grey and Black Jubilee and Northern lines respectively, because of the visually impaired and all that...

The new Victoria Line trains do look rather like the 1992 Stock, and i'll miss the old rickety 1962 (I think) stock, but i'm not complaining...

iampuking
April 10th, 2007, 08:30 PM
Oh yeah and

1996 Stock (Jubilee Line)

http://www.squarewheels.org.uk/rly/stock/1996tubeStock/96interiorTube.jpg

1995 Stock (Northern Line)

http://www.squarewheels.org.uk/rly/stock/1995tubeStock/95interiorKEN1.jpg

Bitxofo
April 10th, 2007, 09:29 PM
What don't you like about it? I like it personally... i'm glad they've kept the traditional moquette yet updated the design. If they got rid of the garish seat covers then it wouldn't look like The Tube, it would look like... well... every other interior photo on here! It also serves a purpose: line branding. There are so many lines on the LU that it helps visitors, if you get on a tube and the poles/seats are pale blue, then you know you're on the Victoria Line. Although this does not work for the Grey and Black Jubilee and Northern lines respectively, because of the visually impaired and all that...

The new Victoria Line trains do look rather like the 1992 Stock, and i'll miss the old rickety 1962 (I think) stock, but i'm not complaining...
Nothing personal, but we don't like moquette here in Spain, it looks always dirty...
:dunno:

iampuking
April 11th, 2007, 03:53 AM
Nothing personal, but we don't like moquette here in Spain, it looks always dirty...
:dunno:

I never considered it anything personal... I just don't see the point in saying you don't like something but not even saying why.

Also, the moquette is better for hiding dirt anyway...

Qtya
April 11th, 2007, 12:09 PM
You guys all have cool new train sets, for Your subway lines, while Budapest is late as usual...
The Transportation Company of Budapest (BKV) has selected a consortium headed by ALSTOM for its metro. BKV, has awarded the ALSTOM-led «Budapest Metropolis Consortium» a contract for the supply of 198 METROPOLIS metro cars. 22 four-car trainsets from the METROPOLIS range, each with a 800 passenger capacity will run on this new 4th Metro line. Additionally, 22 five-car trainsets, with a capacity of 1020 passengers, will replace the existing fleet on line 2nd Metro line. First train-sets will arrive for the 2nd Metro line in 2008 spring. Last train-sets will arrive before the complition of the 4th Metro line in the end of 2010.

Computer animated design of our new subway trains:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7709/4esmetrozq0.png (http://imageshack.us)

Links:
Metro 4 Budapest:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=446547
[Budapest] Public transportation news :
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=444856

1LONDONER
April 14th, 2007, 12:40 AM
What don't you like about it? I like it personally... i'm glad they've kept the traditional moquette yet updated the design. If they got rid of the garish seat covers then it wouldn't look like The Tube, it would look like... well... every other interior photo on here! It also serves a purpose: line branding. There are so many lines on the LU that it helps visitors, if you get on a tube and the poles/seats are pale blue, then you know you're on the Victoria Line.

Couldnt have put it better myself mate :)

Petr
August 6th, 2008, 07:25 PM
5 train sets from Vagonmash http://www.dedalgroup.ru/ ordered by Metro Warszawskie, just have started arriving in Warsaw.
New cars are signed: 81-572.2, 81-573.2 and come from the old Soviet 81 type. The main difference is new driver cabin.
http://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/images/upload/obraz1(17).jpg
http://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/images/upload/obraz(788).jpg
They were chosen for purpose of not introducing third type of the trains on one line, and because Alstom trains turned out to be more fallible and more expensive in operation, then it was written in their technical specifications. New 5 sets will be last trains for the fist metro line, which will be completed this year. Eventually this line will by served by 20 Russian and 18 Alstom train sets.