I'd like to see pics of operating tram cars (or even no-more in use ones, if you want) on tram networks around the world
Models used in your city, but even, if you want, tracks, signals, facilities, depots or whatever you want to talk about :)

Seoul's old trams
http://english.seoul.go.kr/today/multi/photo/old/transportation/image/img02.gif
this one is from 1900
http://english.seoul.go.kr/today/multi/photo/old/transportation/image/img19.gif
nowadays there is no longer a tram network but instead a very good subway system :cheers:

I begin with my city Milan :)

The "Peter Witt"
http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/1500_01.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/1500_08.jpg

http://milanotrasporti.ferrovie.ch/IMG/jpg/1538vlelunig.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/1500_23.jpg

Historical model
http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/1503_04.jpg

Touristic line
http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/1847_02.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/1847_03.jpg

Special model "Tram Scolastico"
http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/1699_02.jpg

series 4600
http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/4700_03.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/4700_02.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/4700_07.jpg

series 4800
http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/4800_01.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/4800_04.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/4800_02.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/4800_07.jpg

series 4900
http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/4900_01.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/4900_02.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/4900_04.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/4900_07.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/4900_10.jpg

series 7000 "Eurotram"
http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/7000_01.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/7000_02.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/7000_03.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/7000_04.jpg

series 7100 "Sirio"
http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/7100_04.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/7100_02.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/7100_05.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/7100_06.jpg

series 7500 "Sirio" (short version)
http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/7500_01.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/7500_02.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/7500_06.jpg

Old cars of suburban lines
http://milanotrasporti.ferrovie.ch/IMG/jpg/90rim-affori.jpg

http://milanotrasporti.ferrovie.ch/IMG/jpg/47e124e841vvalte2.jpg

http://milanotrasporti.ferrovie.ch/IMG/jpg/92erimpadern.jpg

series 700 (now used only for operations of stretches maintenance)
http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/701_04.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/701_03.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/705_02.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/Foto/705_05.jpg

Thanks to
http://milanotrasporti.ferrovie.ch
http://digilander.libero.it/Tram1928/index.html

Very nice pics. I especially like the new Tram with this beautiful green and white

Hong Kong

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/me9_m25_sheep/120a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/me9_m25_sheep/Tram/005c.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/alex1030/image/26584314.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/accl/image/18811155.jpg

Turin

series "2800"
http://www.**************/oldies/WHardmeier/tram/2828a.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/2829gmadrdio-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/feb2003-2829-110801csovittemanueleII.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/2898pzarepubb-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/2843palmadam-.jpg

series "3100"
http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/3163dltorton-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/3216e3129mirafio-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/3211e3214mirafio-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/3216mirafio2-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/feb2003-3208-030202csotortona.jpg

series "2700" in Ristotram version
http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/apr2002-2758-030202csotortona.jpg

series "7000"
http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/7036pcodvalent-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/7046pteregmarg-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/7025pcodvalent-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/apr2002-7011-110801csopotenza.jpg

series "5000"
http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/apr2002-5018-030202csoagnelli.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/apr2002-5041-030202csoagnelli.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/5051vleregipark-.jpg

series "6000"
http://www.**************/phr3-gli%20updates/images/5fotomese/nov2004-6042-190804xxxxx.jpg

series "400" (used for maintenence)
http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/t403e3158dltorton-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/apr2002-t402-170302dlspaolo.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/t427csotasson-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/t411dlsassi-.jpg

An old fashioned series "100" (now no more used)
http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/apr2002-116-170302dltortona.jpg

rack-railway trams on line "Sassi - Superga"
http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/d2ed12sassi-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/d2ed3cosuper-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/d2sassi-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/apr2002-t450ed1-030202sassi.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/apr2002-d2erim-030202incrocionord.jpg


http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/atm__torino.htm

Thanks to www.**************

WOW :eek:

I like those HK doubble decker trams :)

istanbul:

istiklal sreet: old tram (europe)

http://dunyaturk.com/tr33/osman_k_insanlar2.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr33/osman_k_istiklal_gece3.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr36/osman_k_istiklal1.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr41/okhan_de_lan_istanbul44.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr34/Rustavi_IMG_1507_Large.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr01/istiklal8052.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr34/Faruk_istiklal28.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr34/Faruk_istiklal29.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr34/Faruk_istiklal5.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr14/Erdal_beyoglu.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr35/Faruk_nost001.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr35/Faruk_nost02.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr35/Faruk_nost03.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr35/Faruk_nost10.jpg


http://dunyaturk.com/tr06/Bulent_taksim_nostaljik_tram.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr35/Faruk_taksimtram.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr35/Faruk_nostaljik.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr35/ata_Rotation_of_trqanvay.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr35/ata_istiklal_1.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr36/osman_k_istiklal1.jpg



moda district olt tram(asia)
http://wowturkey.com/tr45/emirhan_Istanbul.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr26/emrecan_kadikoy02.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr32/Faruk_kadikoytram.jpg


tram line

http://dunyaturk.com/tr34/Faruk_sultanahmet4.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr34/Faruk_sultanahmet6.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr28/Faruk_eminonu3.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr41/batu_1o.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr41/batu_kabatas_ist.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr41/kemal_bereket_galata_tramvay.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr42/yunus_erdem_karakoyistasyonagelis.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr42/yunus_erdem_karakoyistasyonagelirken.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr42/yunus_erdem_tramvaykarakoy.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr21/Faruk_emin05a.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr01/tramway3974.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr01/tramway3980.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr01/tramway3976.jpg





and turkisch made tram,
http://www.istanbul-ulasim.com.tr/images/rte.HT1.jpg

http://www.istanbul-ulasim.com.tr/images/rte.HT2.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr25/Faruk_trtram.jpg

Barcelona new TRAM.
Pictures made by me on April 3rd, 2005:
:)
http://tinypic.com/2nrvrl
;)
http://tinypic.com/2nrvw4
:cool:
http://tinypic.com/2nrvyv
:wink2:
http://tinypic.com/2nsgec
:)
http://tinypic.com/2nsghy
:cool:
http://tinypic.com/2nsgmw
;)
And Barcelona old tram TRAMVIA BLAU:
:)
http://tinypic.com/4zxfsn
:)
http://tinypic.com/4zxfvc
:)
http://tinypic.com/4zxg1s
;)
I hope you like them!!
:wink2:

I like Instambul old streetcars: they are ones of my favourite old trams! :)

Beautiful shots bitxofo... :okay:
Am I wrong or in Barcelona there were any tram lines till the begin of 20th century, then dismissed?

I like Instambul old streetcars: they are ones of my favourite old trams! :)

Beautiful shots bitxofo... :okay:
Am I wrong or in Barcelona there were any tram lines till the begin of 20th century, then dismissed?

Look at the new pics, please!!
All tram network was dismantled in Barcelona in 1971 except TRAMVIA BLAU, which has been always running since XIXth century!
Since April 2004, we have new tramways.
:wink2:

160 cars of this type (seven sub-types) have dominated Amsterdam between 1957 and 2004. During this period, they wore three different colour schemes:
http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/gvb/01g/02/images/0586-martijnroos-2004-091.JPG

Now some of them can be found on the Museum Line to Amstelveen:
http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/gvb/01g/17/images/0709aom0000-remcomulder20040829amsterdam0080.JPG
And others were sold to Poznan in Poland.

The 8G series (built 1974-75) were of such poor quality that they did not survive. The last cars were removed in 2003:
http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/gvb/08g/04/images/0772-hansschuckman-amsterdam090.JPG

A tram from the 9G/10G series (built 1979-80) :
http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/nieuw/20050124/images/gvb0803-gerritprins20050124plantageparklaan-amsterdam16.JPG

A bi-directional car from the 11G series (built 1989-1990) :
http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/nieuw/20050420gp/images/gvb-remcomulder20050418amsterdam07.JPG

A single directional car from the 12G series (built 1990-1992) and very similar to the 11G series:
http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/nieuw/20050124/images/gvb0820-gerritprins20050124gustavmahlerlaan-amsterdam04.JPG

To the left an ugly Bombardier Light Rail car (express tram) from the first series, (built between 1990 and 1994), to the right a CAF metro train from the last series (built 1996-1997) and adapted for use as Light Rail car. Although operated by Metro cars, line 51 to Amstelveen is more a tram (distances between the stops, average speed, crossings with other traffic):
http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/nieuw/20041015fs/images/0071gvb-frankstuifbergen20041007amsterdam-46.JPG

A Siemens Combino:
http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/nieuw/20050127gp/images/gvb-gerritprins20050127amsterdam86.JPG

Another Siemens Combino, one of the four bi-directional cars:
http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/nieuw/20041021gvb/images/2204-gvb-martynroos200410amsterdam96.JPG

Rome

series "2100"
http://www.**************/oldies/AMortarino/24102003231511onl.jpg

http://www.**************/oldies/WHardmeier/tram/2065a.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/2251e2001vletoglia-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/2203pzaptamagg-.jpg

series "2000"
http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/2001vletoglia-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/2001vprenest-.jpg

series "8000"
http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/8005vprenest-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/8043vletoglia-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/8005pgeran-.jpg

series "7000"
http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/7047vbellart-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/7037valdrov-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/7041pzaptamagg-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/7043pzaptamagg-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/7005ptaspaolo-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/7103pzathordwa-.jpg

series "9000"
http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/9009vparkceli-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/9001vbellart-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/9016vlabica-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/9031vlabica-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/set02-9004-070802viaaldrovandi.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/c9007e9015-030500pzzatrasteverefs.jpg

series "9200"
http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/9204vprenest-.jpg

series "9100"
http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/9115valdrov-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/9123vtrastev-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr3-gli%20updates/images/5fotomese/ago2002-9115-140500vausoni.jpg

http://www.**************/phr3-gli%20updates/images/5fotomese/dic2004-9107-070802pzzaargentina.jpg

series "7000" and series "9000" with their new green color
http://www.**************/phr3-gli%20updates/images/5fotomese/ott2004-7067e9027-290804pzzamaggiore.jpg

www.**************/phr0/tram/roma/atac__roma.htm

Thanks to www.**************

Thank you all for infos and beautiful pics :)

Articulated GTL-car from the first series:
http://www.digitaletram.nl/editie/DT200575K/IMG_2321G.jpg

GTL-II car from the second series. They have different doors, blue seats and blue line number and destination films. They were delivered in a different (blue white and yellow) colour scheme, but they got the same red and beige scheme as the older cars:
http://www.digitaletram.nl/editie/DT2005632/IMG_0442G.jpg

Another GTL-II car, in its original colour scheme:
http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/htm/gtl/03/images/gerritprins-htm20031002delft08.JPG

A former Hannover tramcar. HTM needed more trams than they had, so they acquired 8 cars in 2001 for line 11. Later this year, when the new ALSTOM RegioCitadis cars will enter service, they will be sold to Hungary.
http://www.digitaletram.nl/editie/DT2005501/IMG_9743G.jpg

A scale model of a new RegioCitadis car, to be built for 'Randstadrail', the new light rail service between The Hague and Zoetermeer (running on line 3, 6, the new tram tunnel and the former Dutch Railways suburban rail line to Zoetermeer, which will be converted to tram exploitation). It will start in 2006.

http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/nieuw/20041021randstad/images/0000-randstadrail-martijnroos20041016denhaag00.jpg

Old Duewag car from the 1600-series, now out of service and to be sold to Romania (?):
http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/ret/tram/05/images/1618-martijnroos-20040605rotterdam25.JPG

A secondhand tramcar from Vienna, purchased in 2002 due to lack of tram cars, and now to be sold to Romania (?) :
http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/ret/tram/02/images/0658-gerritprins-20030429rotterdam048.JPG

Duewag car, from the 800-series, built in the '80-s on existing Duewag trucks:
http://www.digitaletram.nl/editie/DT2005700/IMG_1051G.jpg

Duewag car from the ZGT6 700-series, built in the '80-s and refurbished in the late '90-s:
http://www.digitaletram.nl/editie/DT2005700/IMG_1053G.jpg

A new Alstom Citadis car:
http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/ret/tram/06/images/2013-remcomulder20040705rotterdam64.JPG

The Bombardier 'Stockholm A-32 Type' Light Rail cars, operated by HTM of The Hague, in service on the Dutch Railways line between Gouda and Alphen aan den Rijn, in the so-called 'Green Heart' of Holland.

http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/nederland/rgl/images/rgl0000-remcomulder20040705alphenadrynboskoop21.JPG

One of the two former Hannover tramcars, operated by HTM and in service on the Dutch Railways mainline between Houten and Houten-Castellum. (South of Utrecht)

http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/nederland/houten/images/htm9016-remcomulder20040707houten15.JPG

Light Rail Cars from the Connexxion line between Utrecht and Nieuwegein and IJsselstein:

http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/nederland/connexxion/tram/02/images/5014-remcomulder20040707utrecht03.JPG

http://www.amsterdamsetram.nl/nederland/connexxion/tram/03/images/5009-remcomulder20040707ijsselstein13.JPG

They were refurbished in 2001-2002. The first series of the Valencia metro/tramsystem were developed from these trains.

Time for some American tram action:

Jersey City, NJ (pop. 239,097)

http://images.nycsubway.org//i13000/img_13153.jpg

Baltimore, MD (pop. 628,670)

http://images.nycsubway.org//i21000/img_21691.jpg

Boston, MA (pop. 581,616)

http://images.nycsubway.org//i32000/img_32105.jpg

Buffalo, NY (pop. 285,018)

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/buff/Buffalo003.jpg

Charlotte, NC (pop. 584,658)

http://images.nycsubway.org//i35000/img_35360.jpg

Cleveland, OH (pop. 461,324)

http://images.nycsubway.org//i27000/img_27871.jpg

Dallas, TX (pop. 1,208,318)

http://http://images.nycsubway.org//i38000/img_38245.jpg

Denver, CO (pop. 557,478)

http://images.nycsubway.org//i14000/img_14206.jpg

Houston, TX (pop. 2,009,690)

http://world.nycsubway.org/img/logo/title-houston.jpg

Kenosha, WI (pop. 92,871)

http://images.nycsubway.org//i13000/img_13414.jpg

Little Rock, AR (pop. 184,053)

http://images.nycsubway.org//i36000/img_36111.jpg

Los Angeles, CA (pop. 3,819,951)

http://images.nycsubway.org//i26000/img_26844.jpg

Memphis, Egypt (I mean Tennessee) (pop. 645,978)

http://images.nycsubway.org//i35000/img_35111.jpg

Edmonton...

This one is still in service, mainly as a tourist attraction:
http://image02.webshots.com/2/0/32/84/45403284rDqVKn_ph.jpg

http://www.trackwalker.ca/ETS/E11.jpg

Now for the LRV's - Pulling in to Bay Station (Flash)
http://mock.nourism.net/baylrt.swf

Belvedere Station:
http://www.hfpacoustical.com/HFP_site/Markets/edmonton_lrt.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/edmo/Edmonton-Dudley_B_%20Menzies_LRT_Bridge_winter.JPG

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/edmo/Edmonton-Dudley_B_%20Menzies_LRT_Bridge_summer.JPG

The new paint scheme:
http://www.trackwalker.ca/ETS/E12.jpg

At the yards:
http://www.urbanrail.net/am/edmo/edm-lrt3.jpg

The garage:
http://www.urbanrail.net/am/edmo/edm-lrt2.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/edmo/edm-lrt1.jpg

And finally, made out of lego :D
http://www.nalug.org/TrainShow2004/LRTBridge/LRTBridgeDAB3.jpg

Some Australian tram action. Trams in service, entering or about to enter service in Adelaide:

'H' Class tram. These trams service the Adelaide to Glenelg tram line, and have been in service since 1929.

http://www.oz1.com/adelaide/tram.jpg

http://uspsa2.org/images/A_Adelaide_Tram.jpg

http://www.h-e-eisenring.ch/Bilder_Australien_Reise_3_Teil/Adelaide%20Glenelg%20Tram.jpg

The new Flexity trams that will begin arriving in Adelaide from Germany in December 2005:
http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/promos/images/newtram_standard.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Tram1_edited.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Tram2_edited.jpg

70 TMK2200 are first batch of new trams for city of Zagreb. It is likely over 150 TMK2200 to be built for ZET (Zagreb Electric Trams), 10 for each line. 70 new trams could only replace oldest trams on streets of Zagreb, which where built over 40 years ago, all imported trams from Czech republic will be sold or scraped by the end of 2005, 17 TMK2100 (domestically manufactures 3 section trams) and 35 German trams imported in late 80's would remain in service sometimes through 2010. It is very likely all TMK 2100 Trams would switch to night service and German trams might remain in use as circumstances demand. It is likely final number of TMK 2200 in service with ZET might well be over 150 trams; and if ZET plans to construct 3 more tram lines with in next 5-10 year period comes to fruition than number of tram in service might increase substantially. ZET is likely to donate all of its Tatra Trams (45-50 in service) also imported in mid 80's. Older Tatra Trams (2 car trams) will be scraped and never to ce the light of a day, lol.


TMK 2200 Being fited out
http://img152.echo.cx/img152/8928/p41200033ls.jpg
http://img152.echo.cx/img152/7877/p41200265rz.jpg
http://img152.echo.cx/img152/6306/p41200283sa.jpg
http://img152.echo.cx/img152/3478/p41200329rm.jpg
http://img152.echo.cx/img152/1162/p41200210jq.jpg
Photos curtsey of Bubach

TMK would most probably grace streets of Osijek - 32 trams are likely to be the ordered (4 tram lines, 7+1 tram per line). If Croatian Government helps in financing new tram infrastructure in Cities of Rijeka, Split, Varazdin, Zadar, Dubrovnik and Pula it is most likely boys at Cro-Tram consortium will have plenty of work for some time.

Sofia has expressed interest of procuring 100+ TMK 2200 (new trams), few other cities in Europe and USA are also interested for this tram, as tram has design features which could be accustomed to each customer - many practical designs and variable gauge system can be employed. Cro-Tram consortium is one of only 5 manufactures of low-floor trams in Europe and only 8 such manufactures exit in the world today.

Tram costs 2.1 million to manufacture and on the street, if Exported tram price will not exceed 2.55 million US$ FOB. For guidance Simmens low floor tram are 3.75 - 4.25 million US$, Skoda - 2.95 - 3.25 million (they only built 4 so far and had loads of problems - all are out of service as a result), Alstom - 3.35 - 3.85 million US$, Bombardier - 3.55 - 3.85 million US$ and so on.

Current trams on streest of Zagreb...


TMK 2100 stats, Lenght 27.4m Width: 2.2m Max speed 58km, capacity: 44 seating and 120 standing. No in service with ZET: 17.
http://img179.exs.cx/img179/5407/svetice28zb.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/ZET_2116.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/zg_tram_2101_02.jpg

German Trams - forgot the name and type, sorry... No in service with ZET: 35
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/ZET9-01.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/zg_tram_mann_02.jpg

Old Czech Tatra trams - 80+ in service will be withdrawn from service by the end of 2007.

http://img180.exs.cx/img180/871/p21600040jt.jpg

Old Croatian made trams (in 50's and 60's) - will no longer be in service by the year's end.
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/zg_tram_200_01.jpg


Tatra T4YU tramcar - 45-50 in service - after refurbishment most likely to be donated.
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/hr/trams/Zagreb/zagreb351.jpg

Beautiful :eek:

Has anyone pics of Lisbon trams? :)

KATOWICE

Old trams:

http://www.tasiemiec.siec2000.pl/d21.jpg

http://www.tasiemiec.siec2000.pl/d22.jpg

New ones:

http://www.tasiemiec.siec2000.pl/tr2.jpg

http://www.tasiemiec.siec2000.pl/tr1.jpg

Eskisehir - TURKEY

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/tr/trams/Eskisehir/Eskisehir_tram_Estram_a_tram_heading_Otogar_citiy_bus_terminal_waiting_at_the_Belediye_station1.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr39/edeniz_HPIM0739.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr39/edeniz_HPIM0737.jpg



http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/tr/trams/Eskisehir/estram3.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/tr/trams/Eskisehir/estram4.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/tr/trams/Eskisehir/estram7.jpg

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/tr/trams/Eskisehir/Estram_car_going_from_Otogar_to_SSK_Hopsital_car_at_Carsi_station1.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr40/kamilturhan_TRAMWAY_Medium.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr04/estram_hokomoko.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr14/Kemal_estram20gece7.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr14/Kemal_estram20gece8.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr17/Kemal_estram3_kemal.jpg

http://www.eskisehir-bld.gov.tr/fotograf/148/images/06.jpg

http://www.eskisehir-bld.gov.tr/fotograf/148/images/01.jpg

http://www.eskisehir-bld.gov.tr/fotograf/148/images/04.jpg

http://www.eskisehir-bld.gov.tr/fotograf/148/images/05.jpg

http://www.eskisehir-bld.gov.tr/fotograf/148/images/09.jpg

http://www.eskisehir-bld.gov.tr/fotograf/148/images/10.jpg

http://www.eskisehir-bld.gov.tr/fotograf/148/images/11.jpg

http://www.eskisehir-bld.gov.tr/fotograf/148/images/14.jpg

http://www.eskisehir-bld.gov.tr/fotograf/148/images/15.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr42/ramazanbaltali_IMAG0012.jpg

http://wowturkey.com/tr45/ramazanbaltali_IMAG0022.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr42/ramazanbaltali_IMAG0014.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr42/atyilmaz_IMG_00217.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr38/didem__IMG_0145.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr38/didem__IMG_0144.jpg

Konya - TURKEY

http://dunyaturk.com/tr21/Huseyin_Cetin_konya_panonomic1.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr43/MAli_MAliKuleSite06.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr43/MAli_MAliKT02.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr43/MAli_MAliKT01.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr43/Mahmut_Konya_tram3.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr43/Mahmut_Kon_tramvay2.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr43/Mahmut_Konya_tram1.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr42/Mustafa_Noyan_Konya_tramvay101_Apr10234.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr42/Kemal_konyatramday.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr33/MAli_ktram2.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr33/MAli_ktram1.jpg

Antalya - Turkey

http://www.worldturkey.com/gallery/data/media/13/antalya0100.jpg



http://dunyaturk.com/tr01/dscf2240.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr01/antalya03.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr43/Kemal_kemal_antalyatram.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr43/Kemal_kemal_anttram.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr01/antalia-postkarte.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr24/okhan_de_lan_Konyaalti_caddesiant.jpg

http://dunyaturk.com/tr40/okhan_de_lan_P1000216.jpg

http://www.worldturkey.com/gallery/data/media/13/antalya0031.jpg

http://www.worldturkey.com/gallery/data/media/13/antalya0033.jpg

http://www.worldturkey.com/gallery/data/media/13/antalya0037.jpg

Why only my city...

Caen

http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2060.jpg
http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2062.jpg

Grenoble

http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2018.jpg

Lyon

http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2031.jpg
http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2033.jpg

Montpellier

http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2042.jpg
http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2045.jpg

Nancy

http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2055.jpg
http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2057.jpg

Nantes (new and old trams)

http://www.lightrail.nl/nirov6/nantes03.jpg
http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2002.jpg

Orléans

http://world.nycsubway.org/img/logo/title-orleans.jpg
http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2005.jpg

Rouen

http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2029.jpg
http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2014.jpg

Saint-Etienne

http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2040.jpg
http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2039.jpg

Strasbourg

http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2010.jpg
http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2063.jpg

Bordeaux

http://www.jeunespopulaires33.com/bordeaux/tram/221203tram3.jpg
http://tramateurs.free.fr/tram_bordeaux/Images/jpf_bdx001.jpg

Lille

http://tramateurs.free.fr/tram_lille/Images/2.jpg

Marseille

http://tramateurs.free.fr/tram_marseille/tram_marseille-Images/0.jpg

Mulhouse

http://tramateurs.free.fr/tram_mulhouse/1064.jpg

New trams

Marseille

http://tramateurs.free.fr/tram_marseille/ext.jpg

Le Mans

http://tramateurs.free.fr/tram_lemans/tram%20energie.jpg

French trams around 1950 : http://www.amtuir.org/dossiers/histoire_tw_france_50/liste_alpha/liste_alpha.htm

Melbourne
Not all of em' but you get the idea :D

A Class
http://img202.echo.cx/img202/1181/melbourne185a9jr.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Z1 Class
http://perthtrains.nachohat.org/images/tr3494.jpg

W Class
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/1602/w3tow7/Melbourne_728.jpg

Z3 Class
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/1602/zab/Melbourne130.jpg

B2 Class
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/1602/zab/Melbourne2035.jpg

C Class
http://perthtrains.nachohat.org/images/tr3487.jpg

D Class
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/1602/cand/cand77.jpg

I have a question about the new Melbourne trains. Do they have problems with them or are they working well?? Because the trains are from Siemens and they had very big problems with the Combinos last year.

In the city of Philadelphia on routes 10,11,13,34 & 36:
http://www.imgcity.net/server/primary/trolley 1.bmp

http://www.imgcity.net/server/primary/Septa 14.jpg

In the suburbs. These run on the routes 101 and 102 :
http://www.imgcity.net/server/primary/septa11.jpg

http://www.imgcity.net/server/primary/Septa 13.jpg

www.septa.org for more info
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://thumb1.webshots.com/s/thumb4/8/58/41/151985841atUKJM_th.jpg&imgrefurl=http://community.webshots.com/album/85347509mHUQIA/4&h=76&w=100&sz=3&tbnid=yqfILhIC3IIJ:&tbnh=58&tbnw=76&hl=en&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSepta%2Broute%2B10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D for good pictures

I have a question about the new Melbourne trains. Do they have problems with them or are they working well?? Because the trains are from Siemens and they had very big problems with the Combinos last year.

They were recalled 2 years(??) ago because there was a fault (braking system I believe) but it's all been replaced and they're working well now.

I do not like the new tramway for Marseille, France.
:(
Its design is very weird...
:sly:

Thanks for the pics everyone, what a great tour.
I LOVE those Lyon trams.
I think that it is important to note the difference between N.A. and European definitions.
Trams in Europe are generally called streetcars in NA and except for SanFrancisco and Toronto and a few other small systems they are ussually only 1or2 km heritage/tourist lines.
Streetcars here ussually mean LRT.......light rapid transit like the pics of Edmonton you saw or the CTrain in Calgary ... www.members.shaw.ca/lrtincalgary/
They are rapid transit on ROW and own rail lines and large subway like stations.
Just so we can make sure what we are talking and referring to.

They were recalled 2 years(??) ago because there was a fault (braking system I believe) but it's all been replaced and they're working well now.

Nope, the old W class trams were recalled then after a couple of crashes - they had to replace the braking systems and replace the trolleypoles with pantographs. They're only running on the tourist lines because they're the slowest (after the horse drawn carriages that do tours) and nosiest things on the roads.

And they're "classes", not "series" :D

The D class Combino trams have two variants - D1 and D2 depending on the length.

And you've unfortunately picked out a host that disallows hotlinking.

Nope, the old W class trams were recalled then after a couple of crashes - they had to replace the braking systems and replace the trolleypoles with pantographs. They're only running on the tourist lines because they're the slowest (after the horse drawn carriages that do tours) and nosiest things on the roads.

And they're "classes", not "series" :D

The D class Combino trams have two variants - D1 and D2 depending on the length.

And you've unfortunately picked out a host that disallows hotlinking.

Nah, I was talking about the Combinos. They were recalled a few years ago.

I realised just after I posted that they're classes...but it was too late and I couldn't be stuffed editing it.

Fixing up the pics now :D

Manchester Metrolink:

Massively successful and currently engaged in obtaining further government funding for three new lines to add to the current two that exist.

http://www.aidan.co.uk/md/ManTramBlur99Y05.jpg

http://www.aidan.co.uk/md/McrManPiccMetroStnTram1Y01.jpg

http://www.aidan.co.uk/md/ManMosleyStPorticoTram3227.jpg

more Turkish cities planned tram lines:

Istanbul (many lines are under construction), Kayseri(finished 2007), Samsun (finished 2010), Isparta, Denizli , Izmit
and Izmir(a nostalgy tram line in the karsiyaka district) !

some links:
Istanbul lines + under construction + planned (http://www.istanbul-ulasim.com.tr/projeler.html)
Kayseri (http://www.kayseri-bld.gov.tr/ulasim/rayli.htm)
Samsun (http://www.samsun.bel.tr/yatirimlari.php)

the new prototyp of the turkish made tram RTE 2005 from the Ulaşım A.Ş Company will be completed january 2006! the production of this new tram will be done together with the german Fahrzeugtechnik Dessau AG and Wossloh-Kiepe!

http://www.turkcadcam.net/haber/images/rte2005-1.jpg
RTE2005 (http://www.turkcadcam.net/haber/2005-05-02.html)


other cities like Ankara, Izmir Bursa, Antalya has heavy/light metrolines or are actually under construction!

....

Blackpool, UK

http://www.coventryweb.co.uk/postcards/postcards4/BlackpoolTram3.jpg
http://www.coventryweb.co.uk/postcards/postcards4/BlackpoolTram2.jpg
http://img192.echo.cx/img192/2659/bptram3fd.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://www.blackpool-gay-hotels.com/images/blackpool-tram.jpg
http://www.lancs.ac.uk/postgrad/chenx3/images/0007.jpg
http://takanozomi.web.infoseek.co.jp/ichiban/uk/uk04b-l.jpg
http://phototravels.net/england/N0018/england-blackpool-street-09.3.jpg
http://www.knowledene.com/Images/IllumsTram.jpg
http://img192.echo.cx/img192/9366/bptram21eq.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

I have GENIUS LOCI :okay:
Lisbon (PT) trams:

old tram to turists:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/turisttram.jpg

old tram:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/oldtram.jpg

special tram to climb the ills:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/elevador.jpg

new trams:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/moderntram.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/moderntram1.jpg

-----*-----

Oporto tram:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/oportotram.jpg

About 4 years ago I thought San Fransico was the only place in the world that had trams!

Nottingham, UK

http://www.kb3hel.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/postcard/l5/f3748.jpg
http://www.lightrailnow.org/images/not-lrt-str-2003_irj.jpg
http://www.kb3hel.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/postcard/l5/f3757.jpg

The trams are also named after famous midlands people...

Torvill and Dean....Olympic Champion Ice Skaters
Robin Hood....Stole from the rich gave to the poor, and a home wrecker ;)
Lord Byron...Top Poet
Brian Clough... Football Manager

and many more...

Very nice pics Bitxofo!!!

Now, the tram of Bilbao (Spain):
From the Isozaki towers (under construction)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/kiko2/CIMG2348.jpg

At street level near the Guggenheim museum
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/kiko2/CIMG2331.jpg

here my vienna trams;

this is only a small part of it, there are hundrets of them ;)
http://www.photo-transport.co.uk/trams/vienna/top-480.jpg

http://www.photo-transport.co.uk/trams/vienna/trees-4833.jpg

http://www.photo-transport.co.uk/trams/vienna/blue-good.jpg

http://www.photo-transport.co.uk/trams/vienna/4438.jpg

http://www.photo-transport.co.uk/trams/vienna/new-644-good.jpg

http://www.photo-transport.co.uk/trams/vienna/church-4865.jpg

http://www.photo-transport.co.uk/trams/vienna/museum.jpg

you can drive with them everywhere in the city!

I have GENIUS LOCI :okay:
Lisbon (PT) trams:

old tram to turists:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/turisttram.jpg

old tram:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/oldtram.jpg

special tram to climb the ills:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/obelix1/elevador.jpg

I just love wonderful Lisbon old trams :)
Thanks :okay:

Naples

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/napoli/gen2005-1025-190800varcoleo.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/napoli/gen2005-1037-190800pzzavittoria.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/napoli/gen2005-979-190800vmarina.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/napoli/gen2005-1025e1054-190800rivierachiaia.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/napoli/gen2005-1054-150800vmarina.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/napoli-augusto/peter-witt/foto%2013.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/napoli-augusto/peter-witt/foto%208.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/napoli-augusto/napoli-1004-6.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/napoli-augusto/napoli-1004-3.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/napoli-augusto/peter-witt/foto%2011.jpg

Sirio
http://www.mondotram.it/napoli-pabbamo/Sirio%201.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/napoli-pabbamo/Sirio%2013.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/napoli-pabbamo/Sirio%2021.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/napoli-pabbamo/Sirio%202.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/napoli-pabbamo/Sirio%2023.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/napoli-francesco/sirio/SIRIO7.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/napoli-francesco/sirio/SIRIO2%20.jpg

www.mondotram.it/napoli-sirio/

www.**************/phr0/tram/napoli/atan_napoli.htm

Thanks to

www.mondotram.it

www.**************

I just love wonderful Lisbon old trams :)
Thanks :okay:
wellcome :) they are in fact very beautiful!!

Great pics. Any TTC Red Rocket pics out there??

Toronto Streetcars (not the best pictures from a preliminary search of my collection)

http://www.globalphotos.org/toronto/20050123/DSCN6758.jpg

http://img63.exs.cx/img63/6272/101_0152.jpg

http://img63.exs.cx/img63/6907/101_0164.jpg

Time for the "strangest" tram line of the world :)

Trieste

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/ACEGAT-AMT-FEAR%20e%20Musei.jpg

The tramway Trieste - Opicina is one of the most attractive railway in the world and certainly the only one of its kind!

The tramway was built in 1902 to link the center of Trieste, at the see level, to Opicina which is at quite 5 km to the north near the Slovenian border but at 339,5 m above the see. To climb up to the Opicina hill, the tramway was first used with a rack section between Piazza Scorcola and Vetta Scorcola. So, since 1902 to 1928 the Trenovia Trieste - Opicina was a cog-wheel tramway but this configuration had the disadvantage to be too slow for the traffic and too expensive. In 1928 the rack was removed and a funicular section was built at the same place with two special cars used to push and retain the tramway cars. This configuration has the advantage to increase the traffic and to be more economic because the necessary energy is very small. The energy of the descending cars is used for the ascending ones. The only constraints is that the tramway cars must be synchronized, they must arrive at the same time at the lower and upper stations of the funicular.

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/404obelis-.jpg

http://www.funimag.com/funimag03/TRIEST3.JPG http://www.funimag.com/funimag03/TRIEST5.JPG

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/2e403coscorco-.jpg

The tramway starts at Piazza Oberdan in the center of Trieste, reaches Piazza Scorcola with a one-way track in the middle of the street shared with the automobile cars.

At Piazza Scorcola the pushing car of the funicular is waiting for the tramway on a special ‘cul-de-sac’ track. The tramway doubles the funicular and joins the track above it, the manual shifting is operated and the tramway moves gently back close by the pushing car. When the two tramway cars are ready at each station the funicular starts.

From Piazza Scorcola to Vetta Scorcola the line has a maximum gradient of 26%. It is a one-way track from the lower station to the siding. After the siding the second half of the funicular section has two tracks.

At Vetta Scorcola the tramway retrieves its liberty and a normal one-way track up to Obelisco which is the highest point of the line.
The line continues down to Opicina on a special track beside the road.

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/406cobanne-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/406concone-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr3-gli%20updates/images/5fotomese/giu2002-401-020493cotrieste.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/405ts-.jpg

Older cars no more used

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/lug2003-6-150503villaopic.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/1dlvillopci-.jpg

www.funimag.com/funimag03/TRIEST1.HTM

www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/altre___reti.htm

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/401e2coscorco-.jpg

Thanks to

www.**************

www.funimag.com

Antwerp

New "Hermelijn" trams (I think made by Siemens)

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/be/trams/Antwerp/lowfloor/A027218e.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/be/trams/Antwerp/lowfloor/A027218c.jpg
inside
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/nl/c/cf/Hermelijn_Interieur.jpg

Older "PCC" trams

http://hampage.hu/trams/antwerpen/09230076.jpg
http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/Tram_Antwerp/Tram-PCC-02.jpg
Inside
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/nl/e/e1/PCC_Interieur.jpg

Our trams are also riding under the ground.

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/ant/meir1.jpg
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/oasis/inoue-h/traveldia/eur02/photo/0703-01.jpg

Padova


http://tinypic.com/4hyxwx

http://tinypic.com/4hyxxl

http://tinypic.com/4hyxyf

http://tinypic.com/4hyxz4

http://tinypic.com/4hyxzq

http://tinypic.com/4hyy34

http://tinypic.com/4hyy3o

http://tinypic.com/4hyy46

http://tinypic.com/4hyy4y

http://tinypic.com/4hyy6o

http://tinypic.com/4hyya0

http://tinypic.com/4hyyav


Thanks to

http://tplpadova.fotopic.net/

Dublin, Ireland.

Old trams:

1900
http://www.ayuplanet.com/images/forumphotos/oldireland/SX001942.jpg

The lines were removed later, but a new tram line was opened last year:

The LUAS

http://www.ayuplanet.com/ireland/PICT1709.JPG

http://www.dublin.ie/uploadedfiles/pictures%20and%20symbols/LUAS.jpeg

http://www.wayfarer.co.uk/images/casestudies/LUAS-Rail2.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/dub/luas-traminterior1.jpg

http://jimbox.homedns.org/rants/images/uploads/luas.jpg

Istanbul:
RTE2000 turkish made tram!

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/tr/trams/Istanbul/1-25.jpg

Older cars no more used

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/lug2003-6-150503villaopic.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/1dlvillopci-.jpg




the old ones are very beatiful too GENIUS LOCI is a pity dont use tem ani more :(

^
I think they use them sometimes for "special" events, like in a "parade"

But they normally are not used for everyday service :)

Padova


http://tinypic.com/4hyxwx

http://tinypic.com/4hyxxl

http://tinypic.com/4hyxyf

http://tinypic.com/4hyxz4

http://tinypic.com/4hyxzq

http://tinypic.com/4hyy34

http://tinypic.com/4hyy3o

http://tinypic.com/4hyy46

http://tinypic.com/4hyy4y

http://tinypic.com/4hyy6o

http://tinypic.com/4hyya0

http://tinypic.com/4hyyav


Thanks to

http://tplpadova.fotopic.net/

thanks Genius!

can you expalin how the Padova tram works? I do not see two tracks for steel-wheel contact, just one rail. And the power is coming from above, which means that that sole rail is not for power.

:sly: :dunno: :sly:

can you expalin how the Padova tram works? I do not see two tracks for steel-wheel contact, just one rail. And the power is coming from above, which means that that sole rail is not for power.

:sly: :dunno: :sly:

i guess that it picks up power from overhead, then dischages it to earth via the guiderail?


good thread btw :cheers:

Some more photo's of the historical Lisbon Trams, I took these photo's a couple of years ago.

These are my favourite trams I have travelled on, because of their beautiful historical aspect, and also the way they traverse incredibly narrow and steep streets winding around Lisbon. In summer, with the windows wide open, you are so close to the buildings you can touch them as you go past. Truely amazing, and I hope they always keep them.

http://www.pbase.com/jchambers/image/18383166/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/jchambers/image/18432535/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/jchambers/image/18484592/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/jchambers/image/18484594/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/jchambers/image/18553701/original.jpg

The trams are not to be confused with the funiculars also in Lisbon, which look similar.
http://www.pbase.com/jchambers/image/18383167/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/jchambers/image/18481967/original.jpg

Great pics, amasing how those little trames can go up those steep inclines.

Only released a week or so ago. 100% built in Croatia for Zagrebs tram network ....

Pics are from our members .....

http://free-zg.t-com.hr/arno/tramvaj.jpg

New Zagreb skyscraper (EuroTower) under construction in background :) ...

http://free-zg.t-com.hr/arno/tramvajieurotower.jpg

Additional Pics ....

http://free-zg.t-com.hr/arno/tramvaj2.jpg

can you expalin how the Padova tram works? I do not see two tracks for steel-wheel contact, just one rail. And the power is coming from above, which means that that sole rail is not for power.

It is a tram on tires produced by French Groupe LOHR; its name is TRANSLOHR

Here is a pdf with the description of the system: TRANSLOHR (http://www.lohr.fr/download/Translohr_GB.zip)

http://www.lohr.fr/pics/translohr-tvm.jpg http://www.lohr.fr/pics/translohr-essieu-guidage.gif

Cities with Translohr

Clermont-Ferrand France

http://www.lohr.fr/pics/translohr-clermontb.jpg

Padova Italy

http://www.lohr.fr/pics/translohr-padoueb.jpg

Mestre (Venice) Italy

http://www.lohr.fr/pics/translohr-mestre-venezia2.jpg

L'Aquila Italy

http://www.lohr.fr/pics/translohr-laquilab.jpg

Sakai Japan

http://www.lohr.fr/pics/translohr-sakaib.jpg

Info from the site of Groupe LOHR (in French)

http://www.lohr.fr/transport-public.htm

But I know in France there are other cities with this system and even other cities in Itlay (like Rimini or Jesolo) want to adopt it

Are the TRANSLOHR trains the same as the O-BAHN in Adelaide?
I know they are not Transitway like Ottawa.
If you still have to builb track I don't see the advantage. Infact you have to pave the road and track it. I don't see the draw. Also still being rubber on road I wouldn't think the ride would be as smooth.

BTW..are they only for warmer climes, they would slip on the rail, I would think, during snow/ice.

^
In some way they're like O-BAHN, 'cause they're hybrid vehicles with tires and rail tracks they run on
I prefer traditional tram and traditional trolleybus to these hybrid ones: they're more tested and give more assurance
Infact it seems Translohr has had a consistent number of problems in its use, and I think (but it's a supposition) it would have problems even with freezed road...

The advantage is that this kind of tracks to built (even if you have to pave the road) are cheaper than a traditional tramway one

http://www.trans-com.net/phototheque_vehicule/images/2033.jpg

The industrial design team that did this want to be shot... just like the styling of the Combinos, the ones above are beyond foul.

The one above looks like a pug nosed porpoise that had an accident with a fast moving wall.

Just like some of the designs are great and quite revoutionary, adding value to any vista... alternatively some are an embarrassment to the cities and governments that have chosen them.

Melbourne trams.

http://vicsig.net/trams/photos/sw6-887_950700_pm_.jpg
SW6

http://vicsig.net/trams/photos/20040418_z1.66_w6.977_ghdep-ab.JPG
Z1 and W6 class trams.

http://vicsig.net/trams/photos/20050122-mu-5012-78-157.jpg
three tams at Melbourne Uni.

http://vicsig.net/trams/photos/A1-239-FlindersSt.jpg
A1 class

http://vicsig.net/trams/combino/20020802-pws-3501-11.jpg
D and C class trams.

http://vicsig.net/trams/adtrams/20050501-mvdp-d1-3508.jpg
D class.

http://vicsig.net/trams/photos/20031120-d2.5002-d2.5001-glenferrie2-b.jpg
Two D class 5 carrage trams.

Melbourne's tram fleet consists of 489 operational trams:

SW5 3
SW6 21
W6 6
W7 11
Z1 34
Z2 3
Z3 114
A1 28
B1 2
A2 42
B2 130
C 36
D1 38
D2 21

All info and photos form http://vicsig.net/index.php?page=trams&section=rollingstock&fleet=all

All these are form the current fleet. Much older ones are on that site too. more later.

http://tinypic.com/4hyy46

very nice tram!!

i also like a lot the bilbao light rail. i just love light rails when they circule over de grass

Riga, Latvia

Tatra T3a (modernised Tatra T3SU)
http://photo.tramvaj.ru/images/SpecIm/Ri2301.jpg

Tatra T6B5
http://photo.tramvaj.ru/images/SpecIm/Ri253.jpg

other trams:

TR1 (built in Riga, 1988, only one tram was built)
http://photo.tramvaj.ru/images/SpecIm/Riia901.jpg

TR2 (built in Riga, 1994, only 2 trams were built)
http://vagons.tramvaj.ru/models/Riga-Tr2.jpg

RVR-6 (built in Riga, 1960-198x, in Riga in many modified types)
http://vagons.tramvaj.ru/models/RM-68.jpg

You know what I can't stand with some trams and trains in general.....advertising.
As an example Vancouver's SkyTrains look like moving billboards plastered with ads and a lot with that crap that even goes on the windows. Makes the trains, in and out, look like messy graffiti walls.
Calgary's CTrain has no advertising on them at all. The trains look so clean and crisp. They look like trains not billboards with chairs. It, like Calgary itself, are spotless.

You know what I can't stand with some trams and trains in general.....advertising.
As an example Vancouver's SkyTrains look like moving billboards plastered with ads and a lot with that crap that even goes on the windows. Makes the trains, in and out, look like messy graffiti walls.
Calgary's CTrain has no advertising on them at all. The trains look so clean and crisp. They look like trains not billboards with chairs. It, like Calgary itself, are spotless.
I agree, advertising on trains and trams looks crap :bash:

Croydon Tramlink
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/trams/Croydon/UKCROY25.jpg
Normal Livery
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/trams/Croydon/Croydon-2553-24-VII-2002.jpg


http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/trams/Croydon/UKNESCAFE.jpg
Adverts
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/trams/Croydon/UKCROYFG.jpg
First Livery
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/trams/Croydon/UKWHITGIFT.jpg
more advert
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/trams/Croydon/UK25Am.jpg
an advert livery that doesnt look too bad, its discreet compared to the others and doesnt shove it in your face like the others, still..not excellent :(

Not as bad as some but still don't like it.
Advertising makes the trains look tacky.

Messina

http://www.mondotram.it/messina-giovanni/messina-tram%2006T.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/messina-giovanni/messina-tram%2008T.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/messina-giovanni/messina-tram%2008T-2.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/messina-giovanni/messina-tram%2013T.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/messina-giovanni/messina-tram13T.jpg

http://park2.wakwak.com/~tram/photo_all/photo_it/photo_itms/dim03_43.jpg

http://park2.wakwak.com/~tram/photo_all/photo_it/photo_itms/dim04_43.jpg

http://www.torrese.it/images/Trambus.jpg

http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/FS-Messina/FS_Tram-igb-01.jpg

http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/FS-Messina/Tram-02T-MT-03.jpg

http://tinypic.com/533i1h

http://tinypic.com/533i4g

Thanks to

http://park2.wakwak.com/~tram/city_all/city_91/91itms.html

http://www.mondotram.it/messina-giovanni/

http://www.torrese.it/messina_oggi.htm

http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/T_Messina.html

Brussels

http://www.globalphotos.org/brussels/20050419/RIMG0850.jpg

http://www.globalphotos.org/brussels/20050419/RIMG0840.jpg

http://www.globalphotos.org/brussels/20050419/RIMG0845.jpg

Okay, here are Calcutta's trams. Technology wise, they are no great shakes. But still they retain the old world colonial era charm.

http://www.trainweb.org/railworld/Trip%202001/Trams/Red%20Road.jpg

http://www.irfca.org/photos/albums/CalcuttaTrams/kolkatram.sized.jpg

http://img1.travelblog.org/Photos/460/1992/f/5524-Trams-in-Kolkata-0.jpg

There are talks that the trams maybe phased out.

Lodz (PL) Trams
New trams
Bombardier Flexity Outlook
http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/current/images/photos/big/4/27240.jpg
http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/current/images/photos/big/3/45796.jpg
http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/current/images/photos/big/4/27251.jpg
http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/current/images/photos/big/5/27241.jpg
Old trams
Konstal 805
http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/current/images/photos/big/8/27530.jpg
http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/current/images/photos/big/1/27567.jpg
Konstal 805 with new face
http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/current/images/photos/big/7/42577.jpg
http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/old/duze/02/17969.jpg

on suburban lines

Konstal 803
http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/current/images/photos/big/10/7072.jpg
http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/current/images/photos/big/0/7051.jpg
http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/old/duze/02/48209.jpg
http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/old/duze/0C/29013.jpg

Duewag GT6
http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/old/duze/02/60394.jpg
http://ams1.lo3.wroc.pl/tomek/old/duze/02/69117.jpg

Some more photo's of the historical Lisbon Trams, I took these photo's a couple of years ago.

These are my favourite trams I have travelled on, because of their beautiful historical aspect, and also the way they traverse incredibly narrow and steep streets winding around Lisbon. In summer, with the windows wide open, you are so close to the buildings you can touch them as you go past. Truely amazing, and I hope they always keep them.


Wow, Lisbon's trams are interesting. Some of them don't even need cables going up hills, given that age and old design, that's incredible!

cool thread

Unfortunately, Montreal does not have one, but we might get one soon

Those Bombardier Flexi-Trams are being considered when Toronto has to finally start phasing out its RedRockets and get new Trams. That will start anytime and will take about 15 years as there are over 200. Toronto has the largest tram network in N.A. and yes, bigger than SF.

Old HK Tram
http://forum.hkgolden.com/upload/05051565946-94391.jpg

Bolzano/Bozen

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/11colassun-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/11lassun-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/12colassun-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/12e11collal-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/12ecarrocox-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/12ecarrostell-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/aliothcocollal-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/aliothcocostlov-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/aliothcocostlovkl-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/aliothcolassun-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/aliothe12soprbz-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/sad11costlov-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/sad11dlsoprbz-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/12-260699cosoprabolzano.jpg

http://www.**************/oldies/BStuder/830514-FEAR-04%20copia.jpg

http://www.**************/oldies/BStuder/810728-FEAR-01%20copia.jpg

Genova

Principe-Granarolo rack-railway line tram

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/1cogranaro-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/1granaro-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/1granaro2-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/2granaro2-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr0/tram/altre%20reti/2granaro-.jpg

http://www.**************/phr3-gli%20updates/images/5fotomese/AMT1_XX0790GRANAROLO.JPG

I live in Antwerp, but that has already been mentioned.

But let's not forget the longest tram route in the world , the Kusttram (Coastal Tramway), which covers the shoreline of Belgium. This tram route is about 70 km long and stops in each city of the Flemish Coast.

http://img276.echo.cx/img276/236/kusttram4os.jpg

http://img282.echo.cx/img282/4124/kusttram1zy.jpg

http://img289.echo.cx/img289/3604/kusttram2zf.jpg

http://img273.echo.cx/img273/7179/gkusttram36yp.jpg

http://img261.echo.cx/img261/5088/kusttram29es.jpg

http://img282.echo.cx/img282/4631/kusttram18cw.jpg

http://img276.echo.cx/img276/7563/kusttram30rx.jpg

http://img289.echo.cx/img289/3506/kusttram49zb.jpg

http://img289.echo.cx/img289/2302/kusttram7ax.jpg

http://img268.echo.cx/img268/9901/itramkust7ri.jpg

http://img269.echo.cx/img269/569/kusttram6003040412nza0ic.jpg

http://img278.echo.cx/img278/6271/01kustram09044qf.jpg

http://img277.echo.cx/img277/613/60051vr.jpg

http://img264.echo.cx/img264/918/bn60073hc.jpg

http://img261.echo.cx/img261/1882/deli60087qh.jpg

http://img270.echo.cx/img270/4594/deli60134ms.jpg

http://img289.echo.cx/img289/9742/deli60221ii.jpg

http://img282.echo.cx/img282/1872/deli60266ao.jpg

http://img270.echo.cx/img270/7037/kusttram6003040412nza9dd.jpg

http://img265.echo.cx/img265/5210/oed0000k2yg.jpg

http://img261.echo.cx/img261/2789/oed00058ti.jpg

http://img290.echo.cx/img290/8382/oed00094jh.jpg

http://img273.echo.cx/img273/2524/oed00101wh.jpg

http://img277.echo.cx/img277/1187/oed0011k4ra.jpg

http://img261.echo.cx/img261/4465/oed0012k5tv.jpg

http://img277.echo.cx/img277/8880/oed00147az.jpg

http://img268.echo.cx/img268/7303/oed0015k0vf.jpg

http://img266.echo.cx/img266/4576/oed00187ow.jpg

http://img265.echo.cx/img265/9868/oed00190hy.jpg

http://img266.echo.cx/img266/5449/oed00213vs.jpg

http://img270.echo.cx/img270/2888/oed0024k3ti.jpg

http://img275.echo.cx/img275/6043/oed00283lt.jpg

http://img285.echo.cx/img285/9351/oed00308yl.jpg

^how long does it take to travel the full 70km?

Hmm. Other sources say that the world's longest tram route is in Germany, between Krefeld & Witten, via Dusseldorf, Duisburg , Mulheim, Essen, Gelsenkirchen and Bochum. It's 120 km long.

Hmm. Other sources say that the world's longest tram route is in Germany, between Krefeld & Witten, via Dusseldorf, Duisburg , Mulheim, Essen, Gelsenkirchen and Bochum. It's 120 km long.

I think it is not TRAM if it is between cities, then it would be light rail!
;)

From Adinkerke (De Panne) to Knokke is 2 hours and 21 minutes.

Hm I just read that Paris will have a 77km tram route around the city in 2010, and that this will be the longest tram route in the world. I suppose yours isn't really a tramroute then, WotaN.

Wuppertal, it s like tram, but from above :D

http://www.u-bahnen-in-deutschland.de/wu/Wupptertal-Schwebebahn_2.JPG

http://www.u-bahnen-in-deutschland.de/wu/Wupptertal-Hauptbahnhof_Station.JPG

http://www.u-bahnen-in-deutschland.de/wu/Wupptertal-Schwebebahn_6.JPG

http://www.u-bahnen-in-deutschland.de/wu/Wuppertal-Schwebebahn_in_Ohligsmuhle_Station.JPG

its was built at beginning of 20th century :eek:

http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de/webpages/1893%20Wuppertaler%20Schwebebahn.jpg

http://www.solingen-internet.de/si-hgw/images/schwebebahn-innenstadt.jpg

http://www.mondotram.it/filobustiere/schwebebahn-wuppertal%2003.07.04/Wuppertal.jpg

http://www.wuppertal-vohwinkel.net/5-schwebebahn/images/hammerstein/j0253a-hammerstein-1909.jpg

Hm I just read that Paris will have a 77km tram route around the city in 2010, and that this will be the longest tram route in the world. I suppose yours isn't really a tramroute then, WotaN.
I think you mean Paris will have 77Km of tramways all located in banlieu, not only one route

Infact nowadays Paris has a very good metro and train system, but not a very large tram system: only two routes in banlieu built at the end of '90s with a total lenght of probably no more than 30Km

Only Milan has a tram system with more than 250km of lenght: I think longest routes in Milan are over 20km
Suburban tramway lines have routes reaching over 30km: now there are just two suburban services working, but once there were dozens (almost all suppressed 'cause in '50s and '60s there was the myth of the bus :sleepy: ), and surely some reached lenght of over 70km

I thought the Wuppertal system was a monorail?
There are some really cool trams, too bad they plaster them with ads so they look like graffi trains.
The CTrain is Calgary doesn't have ads on their trains I don't think and they look so clean and crisp.

Wuppertal, it s like tram, but from above :D

http://www.u-bahnen-in-deutschland.de/wu/Wupptertal-Schwebebahn_6.JPG


Thank you for the pictures! Please don't call it a tram. It's way too cool for that.

The Wuppertal Schwebebahn features 20 stations along a 13.3 km (8.3 mile) route and serves about 70,000 passengers per day. The vehicles have a maximum operating speed of 56 km/h (35 mph). Their suspended design allows them to bank through an angle of 15 degrees when rounding curves. The system's popularity can be judged by the number of webpages devoted to it:

http://www.schwebebahn.de/
http://www.schwebebahn-wtal.de/
http://schwebebahn.com/home.asp
http://www.monorails.org/tMspages/Wuprtal.html
http://www.monorails.org/tMspages/Wupcard1.html
http://www.elevator-world.com/magazine/archive01/9712-001.html-ssi
http://ktransit.com/transit/Germany/Wuppertal/wup_mono.htm
http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/vrr/wuppertal.htm
http://www.u-bahnen-in-deutschland.de/wu/wuppertal-gallery.htm
http://www.wsw-online.de/schwebebahn/sprachen/deutsch

I think you mean Paris will have 77Km of tramways all located in banlieu, not only one route

Infact nowadays Paris has a very good metro and train system, but not a very large tram system: only two routes in banlieu built at the end of '90s with a total lenght of probably no more than 30Km

Only Milan has a tram system with more than 250km of lenght: I think longest routes in Milan are over 20km
Suburban tramway lines have routes reaching over 30km: now there are just two suburban services working, but once there were dozens (almost all suppressed 'cause in '50s and '60s there was the myth of the bus :sleepy: ), and surely some reached lenght of over 70km

There are still a few more cities with tram lengths larger than Milan. I believe Melbourne and Vienna are pretty close to being on par with Milan, Moscow and St. Petersburg have the longest (between 300-450km route), and a couple more I can't think of at the moment.

Then of cause, there are metropolitan area's with more than 250km route of tram, such as the Rhein Ruhr, although each network is seperated from each other, they are connected by suburban rail links, and when looking at total rail infrastructure in the metro they can be counted all together.

Yes i think counting all Ruhr tram network total lenght is surely impressive. It would be interesting to know how many km of tramways there are in whole Rhein Ruhr
Germany is one of the nations where tram webs remain when many others in rest of Western Europe dismantled their networks converting public transport with busses

Other cities with impressive networks I think they are Brussels, Berlin and Budapest...

P.S.
When I wrote "only in Milan" I meant "for example a city like Milan has a 250 km tram network" to compare with (future) 77km of lenght of Paris
I didn't mean "it is just Milan to have such a big network"...
I know Milan hasn't the biggest tram network (even if it is big) ;)

Yes i think counting all Ruhr tram network total lenght is surely impressive. It would be interesting to know how many km of tramways there are in whole Rhein Ruhr
Germany is one of the nations where tram web remain when many others dismantled their networks converting public transport with busses

Other cities with impressive networks I think they are Brussels, Berlin and Budapest...

Actually, I compiled a list of the top 10 tram networks in the world based on metropolitan area's, which included all of the trams in the Rhein Ruhr metro along with others. It took me days to work it all out, sourcing information from various websites, emails to tram organizations and books.

I posted it here at SSC, and it was unfortunately a victim of the first stage of "pruning" on this site and deleted. I never saved it anywhere else, and have now lost all the information.

I just don't have the time, and heart to do all the work again. But it was a facinating list.

http://www.verkeerskunde.nl/nieuws2000a/parijs.htm

I don't think much people understand Dutch, but the first sentences say:
"The longest tram route in the world will come around Paris. In 2010, a 77km tram circle will have to 'embrace' the whole city."

http://www.verkeerskunde.nl/nieuws2000a/parijs.htm

I don't think much people understand Dutch, but the first sentences say:
"The longest tram route in the world will come around Paris. In 2010, a 77km tram circle will have to 'embrace' the whole city."
Then they will unite the two existing routes forming a ring around Boulevard Periferique (a little larger to reach 77km of lenght)
But it remains that this ring of 77km will coincide with the total lenght of Paris "web" (at the end, as it seem to be, formed by only one route, even if very long)

Here is Ratp web site (in French) http://extension-reseau.ratp.fr/tools/plandusite.html : if I didn' understant in wrong way the two lines (T1 and T2) will be extended "step by step" till they will close the ring around the city

Thank you for the pictures! Please don't call it a tram. It's way too cool for that.



Amazing Wuppertal!!
:eek2: :eek2:

HK, before Bank of China Tower was built...

Found from a HK transport forum.
http://www2.hkedcity.net/citizen_files/ab/ax/ty1824/visitor_cabinet/56117/dia_0051a.jpg

A few Manchester ones:

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/other/manchester-piccadilly1.jpg

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/001ewm/lg/EwmQuizApr04_44.jpg

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/001ewm/lg/EwmQuizApr04_24.jpg

http://www.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/3/3a/Metrolink_tram.jpg

http://www.comingsoon.com.tw/railway/picture/pic021/01_6_1.6_LRT8.jpg

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/ic13/74.jpg

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/001ewm/lg/ManSnow4eStPetSqTram4128.jpg

http://www.aidan.co.uk/lg/M60TJ17MetrolinkBridge.jpg

http://www.aidan.co.uk/lg/McrMetrolinkManShipBrg0720.jpg

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/ic5/23.jpg

http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?24753

http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?32160

http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?10313

http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?38648

http://www.freake.demon.co.uk/image/a75.jpg
Photo by Dj

http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/manchester/images/man3.jpg

Here's a better pic of the Manchester trams. Some of those are outdated now and have been spruced up a lot.

http://www.aidan.co.uk/lg/ManTwrCnstTram5531.jpg

A few Manchester ones:

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/other/manchester-piccadilly1.jpg
...
http://www.freake.demon.co.uk/image/a75.jpg
Photo by Dj



The Manchester system has an interesting mix of features:

1. A tunnel section as fast as a metro.

2. An on-street section as slow as a bus.

Actually none of the Manchetser Metrolink system operates as an underground metro.

The picture seen here is the terminus at Piccadily, and is located under Manchester Piccadily mainline railway station. So it is more like a station within a building - and not an underground station.

btw, before Metrolink was built the original plans were for an underground railway linking two mainline staions (Piccadily and Victoria) which are on different sides of the vity centre.

But the British government refused to provide the money, saying that Manchester was not important enough to justify the investment.

Of course this was a very big insult for the people of Manchester, but to save face they decided to have a street based system instead.

Metrolink has been very succesful - but because of shortage of money there are not enough tramcars and in the rush hours some services are so overcrowded that passengers are left behind on the platforms.

I think that part of the "problem" is that the government earns so much money from taxation on motorists that it does not want too many people using public transport - people who use public transport do not contribute towards these taxes.

Simon

Actually, the Manchester Metro trams do go underground at points, they also go overground in the air, they go in the street, and they go on dedicated rail track also.

So, it really is a light rail system. The reason it goes on rail tracks is that it was cheaper to build the system as old disused branch lines could easily be upgraded much cheaper than building a new system from scratch. You can see this in the bridge and in-cab photos where it is running on railways lines. On the in-cab photo it bombs along that stretch, even though it might not be underground. Actually it's about 30 foot in the air at that point.

Currently it really only goes into the street along with normal traffic in the city centre and between four stops along Langworthy and Eccles New Road. Even then however, the stops are removed well off to the side of the road, and traffic is stopped well before a tram pulls out of a street station to give it a clear run without any cars or buses in front of it.

Manchester cannot have a tube/metro system, as it is a city built on clay, apparently.

The reason it has its doors pirched way in the air is because it uses conventional rail tracks, thus normal boarding platforms, unlike must continental trams where the doors are almost right down at road surface level.

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The Manchester trams look really ugly.

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series "2700" in Ristotram version
http://www.**************/phr0/tram/torino/apr2002-2758-030202csotortona.jpg


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I see that tram got a parking ticket:)

Why you all forgot athens?? It's one of the most beautiful systems over the world! I know what i'm talking about. Btw, my city would be Zurich but i can't find pics at the moment, but my favorite city is athens!

Here some of my pics:

http://picasaweb.google.com/Alexis.Vassilios/TripToAthens/photo#5061129914894510354

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/viewPhoto?uname=Alexis.Vassilios&aid=5061128033698834433&iid=5061130095283136802

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/viewPhoto?uname=Alexis.Vassilios&aid=5061128033698834433&iid=5061130224132155698

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/viewPhoto?uname=Alexis.Vassilios&aid=5061128033698834433&iid=5061130292851632450

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/viewPhoto?uname=Alexis.Vassilios&aid=5061128033698834433&iid=5061130468945291618

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/viewPhoto?uname=Alexis.Vassilios&aid=5061128033698834433&iid=5061130391635880274

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/viewPhoto?uname=Alexis.Vassilios&aid=5061128033698834433&iid=5061132491874888162

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/viewPhoto?uname=Alexis.Vassilios&aid=5061128033698834433&iid=5061132569184299506

more:

http://picasaweb.google.com/Alexis.Vassilios/TripToAthens
http://www.athenstransport.net.tc

greets:wave:
AVassilios

Antique waterfront trolley. Currently out of service while they rebuild the maintenance facility on another site. Trams were originally made in Australia.

http://www.majipoor.com/dunk_n_donut/seattle/images/trolley5.jpg

Brand new South Lake Union trolley (service starts winter 2007).

http://www.djc.com/special/SouthLakeUnion/SLU_cover.jpg

Also plans for a First Hill/Capitol Hill line that will run between the Pioneer Square and Capitol Hill light rail stop that could also connect with the waterfront line.

New Brussels tram 3000:

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9647/t3000gm4.jpg

Antique waterfront trolley. Currently out of service while they rebuild the maintenance facility on another site. Trams were originally made in Australia.

http://www.majipoor.com/dunk_n_donut/seattle/images/trolley5.jpg

Tram W2.518 entered service in Melbourne on 2 August, 1928. :) Bit different from what it would have looked like back here though:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/Ac.newtram3.jpg.JPG
This tram was built 25 years later (the class was in production for 33 years) but has seen much less restoration work. DDA regulations will mean that these trams will not be allowed on route services for much longer though.

haha, I didn't realize they were THAT old. Anyways, for now, they've replaced them with an interesting alternative:

http://transit.metrokc.gov/photos/waterfront_streetcar/wsstreetcar-bus1.jpeg

Here,in Budapest,we have:
UV
http://benbeic.uw.hu/gallery/mar06/low/2.jpg
ICS
http://www.lauder.hu/~aron/fotok/eletkepek/2002maj/1333.jpg
Tatra T5C5
http://www.trampicturebook.de/tram/europ_ne/ungarn/budapest/pics_t5c5/2003-09-06-34-X600.jpg
TW 6000
http://voni.uw.hu/viszonylat/tw6000.jpg
Siemens Combino Supra
http://www.bkv.hu/galeria/combino01_large.jpg

Some tram shots from Melbourne:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/trams/tram_0758.jpg

note the track layout in this shot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/trams/tramterm5015.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/trams/tram_0745.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/trams/trams_5038.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/trams/trams_0748.jpg

Some decorated trams:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/trams/tram_0716.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/trams/tram_3cam_4576.jpg



Our oldest, but our favourites, are the W-Class, which are gracing the streets of Seattle as well:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/trams/wclass_5149.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/trams/latrb_1570.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/ooompaloompa123/Melbourne/trams/tram_cc_5187.jpg