View Full Version : Demolition, Demolition, Demolition


JUXTAPOL
May 7th, 2005, 05:21 PM
This News i didn't know about, From Downtown Website.

Corinth Tower to be blown up at 11am on Sunday 15th May.

Here is a picture i took today showning the tower being prepared for destruction showing the bands of explosives wrapped in black plastic.

Don't know what condition/quality the building is, could a makeover have been carried out.

http://www.123lcc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/post/zcorinthblowup.JPG

LIV08
May 7th, 2005, 05:39 PM
no its shite


BLOW IT UP!!!! :pepper: :pepper: :pepper:

highriser
May 7th, 2005, 05:41 PM
Disgusting building ,good riddance :)

westisbest
May 7th, 2005, 05:44 PM
:wave: bye bye conrith

Gareth
May 7th, 2005, 07:59 PM
I'm sure Dave will be gutted as it was a photo vantage point of his.

caw123
May 7th, 2005, 08:04 PM
It'll be blown down tomorrow morning provided it doesn't fall down by itself before then.

Gareth
May 7th, 2005, 08:06 PM
So tomorrow then, not the 15th?

Are you sure?

scouserdave
May 7th, 2005, 10:31 PM
This News i didn't know about, From Downtown Website.

Corinth Tower to be blown up at 11am on Sunday 15th May.

Here is a picture i took today showning the tower being prepared for destruction showing the bands of explosives wrapped in black plastic.

Don't know what condition/quality the building is, could a makeover have been carried out.


Smashing pic Juxt. Sebo was with me on wednesday when the demo lads from the Corinth gave me the date. Going to miss this place, despite it's appearance. It's in so many pics I've taken over the years. It'll feel strange when it's gone (sniff! sniff!). Most of the people were moved out over a year ago and now live about 50 yards from it in the (V)ictoria Settlement (see below)

There appeared no chance of saving it though. I tried to get Brian Brennan (Build Direct) and George Kountis (Eldon Grove) to consider taking it over last year. Brian didn't want to know because it would cost too much to refurbish. He also suspected it was structually unsound.

Can't recall George's response, apart from it being in the negatoryhttp://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/traurig/sad-smiley-019.gif

http://www.**************************/maycorinth/image001.jpg

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scouserdave
May 7th, 2005, 10:43 PM
I'm sure Dave will be gutted as it was a photo vantage point of his.

Certainly am Gareth. Thankfully St George's Church is still available nearby.
I wonder if anybody took the pics down from the Corinth ground floor wall or will they go to waste?

http://www.**************************/maycorinth/image4.jpg

caw123
May 8th, 2005, 12:38 AM
So tomorrow then, not the 15th?

Are you sure?

Ah I read 'Sunday' and thought it was tommorow. :crazy:

Anyway it should be good. Implosions. Love em.
http://www.controlled-demolition.co.uk/imageuploads/News%20Story%2011%20lg.jpg

JUXTAPOL
May 8th, 2005, 02:04 AM
Ah I read 'Sunday' and thought it was tommorow. :crazy:

Anyway it should be good. Implosions. Love em.
http://www.controlled-demolition.co.uk/imageuploads/News%20Story%2011%20lg.jpg
That tower there looks identical to Corinth tower. Was that one in Manchester

caw123
May 8th, 2005, 01:23 PM
No that's one of the Sheil Park towers in Liverpool, Kenley Close I believe.

scouserdave
May 8th, 2005, 02:15 PM
I'd imagine it will go something like this. The last couple of seconds are amazing :cheers:
http://www.controlled-demolition.co.uk/common/hackney.mov

Paul D
May 8th, 2005, 02:23 PM
Storrington Heys Demolition (http://www.liverpoolhat.org.uk/a_main.php?nav=3&snID=6000) I was at this one and it was later used in a Weetabix comercial. :)

Gareth
May 8th, 2005, 02:41 PM
dave, who was the dope on the roof with the video recorder when those blocks went? :)

kung_fuzi
May 8th, 2005, 04:28 PM
dave, who was the dope on the roof with the video recorder when those blocks went? :)


'Accy' :cheers:

Blabbernsmoke
May 8th, 2005, 06:43 PM
http://www.**************************/maycorinth/image003.jpg

Wow, I didn't know such signs existed. So did you get any punters then Dave?

scouserdave
May 8th, 2005, 06:57 PM
Wow, I didn't know such signs existed. So did you get any punters then Dave?
LOL! That's Sebo, not me.
He took one of me with my trackie pulled up, flashing my leg. Never made a penny. Fussy bar stewards! :)

Gareth
May 9th, 2005, 01:05 AM
This looks like one of those photos you get on election flyers through your door, Sebo being a local councillor responsible for the sign on the streetlamp. :laugh:

http://www.**************************/maycorinth/image003.jpg

Paul D
May 9th, 2005, 01:11 AM
This looks like one of those photos you get on election flyers through your door, Sebo being a local councillor responsible for the sign on the streetlamp. :laugh:

http://www.**************************/maycorinth/image003.jpg

I having that Gareth,Sebo gets my vote. :laugh:

JUXTAPOL
May 9th, 2005, 01:48 AM
Photo taken today, Moat House is going soon, :banana: does anyone know the exact date/time.

http://www.123lcc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/post/zMoat House 2.JPG

scouserdave
May 10th, 2005, 10:06 AM
Photo taken today, Moat House is going soon, :banana: does anyone know the exact date/time.

http://www.123lcc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/post/zMoat House 2.JPG

Juxt, I was reliably informed (Sebo FFS!) that this pile of wank was going to be history a couple of weeks ago. It f*****g irks me whenever I take pics of the waterfront and I'm confronted with this piece of shite :bash:

Oops! Sorry for the rant - Cracking pic, by the way :cheers:

westisbest
May 10th, 2005, 10:39 AM
im surprised it hasn't already fell down

westisbest
May 10th, 2005, 10:40 AM
you can just see were the swimming pool was. on the bottom right of the pic

scouserdave
May 10th, 2005, 12:05 PM
Hopefully it'll be knocked down when I take my next pic from across the water :cheers:
Taken last week.

http://www.**************************/pileofwank/image001.jpg

Tony Sebo
May 10th, 2005, 11:41 PM
Thanks for the votes...didn't win though!
Sadly the pic of Dave didn't come out...rest of pics great...as are daves legs, but the sign washed out.

Talking of mayors, metro focus', Bay Areas etc, have been hearing some interesting rumbles from 'darn sarf' about possible new directions with this new dedicated department for local/community affairs. Governence has been taken away from Prescotts monolith...can't say for sure though as they're all lying bastards who love the rumourmill!
Keep your ears open though.

liverpolitan
May 10th, 2005, 11:48 PM
Tony it's all still in the same Dept, except it now has two cabinet ministers. The whole city region policy area seems to be in need of a champion, ministerially, and currently I am not aware of one.

Awayo
May 10th, 2005, 11:55 PM
Yep, Prezza wouldn't allow his empire to be carved up, with Blunkett getting the local government bit. He put his foot down and stayed one dept as Poli says.

scouserdave
May 11th, 2005, 10:15 PM
Anyone attending the Corinth implosion? Hoping to get up there. York Terrace is possibly your best for a view, followed by Boundary St on the other side.

A.D.Williams
May 11th, 2005, 11:30 PM
Anyone attending the Corinth implosion? Hoping to get up there. York Terrace is possibly your best for a view, followed by Boundary St on the other side.

It's getting blown up at 11am?! I'll see if I can get out of my pit in time!

:runaway:

scouserdave
May 11th, 2005, 11:49 PM
It's getting blown up at 11am?! I'll see if I can get out of my pit in time!

:runaway:
Typical Bourgeois Scouser! :)

A.D.Williams
May 15th, 2005, 03:33 PM
Cor blimey! There must have been a good couple of thousand people there to see this tower come down. Blink and you missed it!

A.D.Williams
May 15th, 2005, 03:41 PM
Some of the people there to watch.

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/north/corinth/corintha.jpg

A.D.Williams
May 15th, 2005, 03:45 PM
Going.....

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/north/corinth/corinthb.jpg

A.D.Williams
May 15th, 2005, 03:49 PM
Going....

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/north/corinth/corinthc.jpg

A.D.Williams
May 15th, 2005, 03:53 PM
Going...

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/north/corinth/corinthd.jpg

A.D.Williams
May 15th, 2005, 03:58 PM
Going..

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/north/corinth/corinthe.jpg

A.D.Williams
May 15th, 2005, 04:01 PM
Gone!

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/north/corinth/corinthf.jpg

A.D.Williams
May 15th, 2005, 04:07 PM
Nay! The can't go down there youngin'. Git back behind t'barrier lad!

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/north/corinth/corinthg.jpg

A.D.Williams
May 15th, 2005, 04:15 PM
When I were a lad this were all fields I tells the!

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/north/corinth/corinthh.jpg

JUXTAPOL
May 15th, 2005, 04:17 PM
Gone!

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/north/corinth/corinthf.jpg"Ooh quick Ethel get into the bunker, i think the Germans have returned" :runaway:
"and you young man get down off that Model-t Ford"

A.D.Williams
May 15th, 2005, 04:32 PM
Sorry the pictures are not as good as I would like but I got there after the best specs were all taken, like!

:bash:

scouserdave
May 15th, 2005, 05:12 PM
A couple of tiddly rough shots. Kept the resolution down coz I'm on a dialup at the moment

Main man John Hunt
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/scouserdave/image001.jpg

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JUXTAPOL
May 15th, 2005, 05:19 PM
Very nice shots there, you can see down Boundary Street now in that last picture.

scouserdave
May 15th, 2005, 05:33 PM
Viewed from St George's Church rooftop an hour later. This is all that's left of the Corinth :bash:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/scouserdave/image009.jpg

A.D.Williams
May 15th, 2005, 05:45 PM
Typical Bourgeois Scouser! :)

Ha ha!

:cheers:

caw123
May 15th, 2005, 09:12 PM
Ace. I love blowdowns. :yes:

Is that church tower open to the public Dave, or only to privaliged fellows like yourself? ;)

Scarecrow
May 15th, 2005, 09:32 PM
http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/north/corinth/corinthh.jpg

Now doesn't she have a lovely bottom? :)

woodhousen
May 15th, 2005, 09:50 PM
its a shame that they didnt make a thing of it.

i know of john hunt after working in the industry for a year and i have to admit that he is a total whimp when it comes to blow downs. many companies, when they get the chance, blow the buildings up in a nice delayed way so you can watch the thing come down slowly. ofcourse when there are buildings 10ft away all around you cant always do it, but in a situation like this one whre there is a park right around it, they could have demolished it in a more staged way lol

i heard that his company suffered a few hold ups (a thing that happens when al the charges are detonated but the building doesnt collapse) and so when ever he does a blow down, he packs the things full of explosives in order to get it down as soon as possible. shame really....this one could have looked great.

now this is how u do it lol, this is a pic of the company i used to work for....they always make a spectical of their blow downs

http://www.coleman-co.com/images/picture%20and%20video%20library/downloadable%20pictures/explosiveengineering2_large.gif

woodhousen
May 15th, 2005, 09:53 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/scouserdave/image005.jpg

i love the way the lightening rod on the left of the building tried to defy gavity and survive.......

A.D.Williams
May 15th, 2005, 10:41 PM
http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/north/corinth/corinthh.jpg

Now doesn't she have a lovely bottom? :)

Good grief! I never noticed that Bunny! I have now though.

:cheers:

scouserdave
May 15th, 2005, 10:44 PM
its a shame that they didnt make a thing of it.

i know of john hunt after working in the industry for a year

A whole year? Wow! :eek2:

scouserdave
May 15th, 2005, 10:49 PM
http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/north/corinth/corinthh.jpg

Now doesn't she have a lovely bottom? :)
Topped off with a sexy white hard hat. Mmmmmmm! :weirdo:

Scarecrow
May 15th, 2005, 10:50 PM
Behave Dave you cheeky queg! :D

scouserdave
May 15th, 2005, 10:56 PM
Ace. I love blowdowns. :yes:

Is that church tower open to the public Dave, or only to privaliged fellows like yourself? ;)

Chris, officially it's open to the public twice a year - St George's Day and it's birthday (born 1814) on 26th October:cheers:

Gazzab
May 17th, 2005, 01:03 AM
http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/north/corinth/corinthh.jpg

Now doesn't she have a lovely bottom? :)

Yeh, noticed that too.

I've been tapping on my screen for ages hoping she'll turn round. :bash:

scouserdave
May 17th, 2005, 02:54 AM
Got our Col to video this from my Nikon 8800
Requires: QuickTime
Size: 29 megs

Speakers on
http://www.streamload.com/scouserdave/EL/VXIL2Z19OL/everton_040.mov

JUXTAPOL
May 17th, 2005, 03:33 AM
Got our Col to video this from my Nikon 8800
Requires: QuickTime
Size: 29 megs

Speakers on
http://www.streamload.com/scouserdave/EL/VXIL2Z19OL/everton_040.movGood little video that scouserdave,

forking ell, as someone on the video commented. :)

scouserdave
May 17th, 2005, 03:44 AM
Good little video that scouserdave,

forking ell, as someone on the video commented. :)

Probably our Col. Doesn't say much, but when he does it's usually prefaced with that awful f word :cheers:

scouserdave
May 17th, 2005, 01:36 PM
Just posted the movie link to Jessica Shaughnessy who wrote the Corinth article in the Daily Post on Monday. Never realised she was on it until this morning. She's the girl in the foreground, making a phone call after it imploded. I'm the one near to the end of the movie, walking towards the camera then turning back to take a few more pics :cheers:

woodhousen
May 17th, 2005, 02:48 PM
nice little video......good thing the wind wasn't blwiong in ur direction..... that dust is horrible when youget covered in it...gets everywhere!

JUXTAPOL
May 17th, 2005, 08:12 PM
Apparently the streets around Corinth demolition resembled a Nuclear fallout.

Fallout (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=15527225%26method=full%26siteid=50061%26headline=fallout%2don%2dthe%2dstreets-name_page.html)

scouserdave
May 18th, 2005, 09:27 PM
Now you see it

http://www.**************************/seeit1.jpg

Now you dont :cheers:

http://www.**************************/seeit2.jpg

woody
May 18th, 2005, 11:42 PM
Great pics Dave, when you blew up the tower you also sunk that ship in the river, clever bugger :)

scouserdave
May 18th, 2005, 11:57 PM
Great pics Dave, when you blew up the tower you also sunk that ship in the river, clever bugger :)


LOL! You know what else should be demolished? The photo Accy (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=214199) posted of himself to the Manc Forum :)

rickster2k
May 19th, 2005, 12:40 AM
Great video there! I rewound it on quicktime watching it in slowmo, looks really bizzard going backwards!

I can't believe Moat House is going, good thou, the last time i was in Liverpool (bout a year ago) it was still up and running - is its demolition part of the big something quarter shopping scheme?

woody
May 19th, 2005, 12:48 AM
Great video there! I rewound it on quicktime watching it in slowmo, looks really bizzard going backwards!

I can't believe Moat House is going, good thou, the last time i was in Liverpool (bout a year ago) it was still up and running - is its demolition part of the big something quarter shopping scheme?

Yes its in the centre of the Paradise St. redevelopment, see our thread and check out the Grosvenor web site for details, www.liverpoolpsda.co.uk

Blabbernsmoke
May 19th, 2005, 12:57 AM
LOL! You know what else should be demolished? The photo Accy (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=214199) posted of himself to the Manc Forum :)

Aaah, no thread has ever made me laugh so much :laugh:
Good post Dave.

woody
May 19th, 2005, 01:09 AM
LOL! You know what else should be demolished? The photo Accy (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=214199) posted of himself to the Manc Forum :)

I have just seen the horror pic Dave, :eek2: and you are spot on ,he really should have posted that pic here on the Liverpool pages. At least we will spot him when he shows up (one day-maybe? ) at one of our meetings at the Doctors.

Scarecrow
May 19th, 2005, 11:45 AM
http://img93.echo.cx/img93/2020/me26re.jpg

Eurgh! What a t**t! Especially in that Nob End shirt. I thought Admiral stopped making kits when Keegan was a player? :?

JUXTAPOL
May 21st, 2005, 04:42 PM
The joke is that the former T&GWU building next door, crafted to be 'in keeping' in the same way as CP, is soon to be pulled down at huge public expense, such is the power of the aesthetes. Let's hope the bulldozers get the wrong one hey?!
Can't remember if i or someone else posted this info from Downtown website here (http://www.downtownliverpool.org/), but mentions soon to be demolished TGWU building. :banana: :carrot: :cucumber:

I really dislike this building :bash:

P.S. As for Commutation Plaza, i actually like C.P.
PP.S What's accy doing in this thread, is it due for demolition..! :)

Paul D
May 21st, 2005, 04:57 PM
That's fantastic news I don't think we knew that?

I would demolish it and not build on the vacant site as it would open up brilliant views of the beautiful William Brown Street from Islington. :cheers:

liverpolitan
May 21st, 2005, 08:16 PM
People who aren't yet able or ready to appreciate the TGWU building probably hate the RSA building. I love both. Why demolish it? I do think there is a kind of 70s hatred going on here (I don't know when either was completed, but their inspiration is entirely 70s). That will pass in a decade. It's just like good 20s and 30s buildings that were lost in the 60s and 70s, no-one could see the value of them, and gems were lost. It takes time to appreciate what is good in certain decades. The TGWU building is splendid, and very sensitive to its location. The smart-arse comments on the Downtown site about it being "in keeping" are simply naive. I do worry about the types of comments being made about very good architecture, by people who seem to welcome off-the-shelf catalogue vernacular as long as its tall and new.

bibster
February 17th, 2007, 02:13 AM
Nooooo, not another piece of brutalist architecture just about to be wiped away as if it never existed. why do we have to erase these brave buildings. They only get to look shabby because people drop them like a hot potato when something 'better' comes along.

There really ought to be a bigger noise made when someone tries to erase a historic building. Soon there will be a big chunk missing from the modernist era but hey, those indentikit offices will do just fine until someone gets it in for them.

I'd love to buy the TGWU building on islington Liverpool and open it as a museum for modernism. Can't the city council do something, even just for 2008? Kind of like the Germans did with Palast der Republik in Berlin when it became 'Volkspalast', although it'd be on a smaller scale. PdR is also set to fall. Lets carry on wiping out the bits that don't please Mr & Mrs Average and see what we'll be left with.

Villiers Terrace
February 17th, 2007, 03:16 AM
Nooooo, not another piece of brutalist architecture just about to be wiped away as if it never existed. why do we have to erase these brave buildings. They only get to look shabby because people drop them like a hot potato when something 'better' comes along.

There really ought to be a bigger noise made when someone tries to erase a historic building. Soon there will be a big chunk missing from the modernist era but hey, those indentikit offices will do just fine until someone gets it in for them.

I'd love to buy the TGWU building on islington Liverpool and open it as a museum for modernism. Can't the city council do something, even just for 2008? Kind of like the Germans did with Palast der Republik in Berlin when it became 'Volkspalast', although it'd be on a smaller scale. PdR is also set to fall. Lets carry on wiping out the bits that don't please Mr & Mrs Average and see what we'll be left with.

It's grotesque.

Post a pic and let me make my mind up anew, but I've never thought of that building as anything other than horrid.

JUXTAPOL
February 17th, 2007, 02:53 PM
It's grotesque.

Post a pic and let me make my mind up anew, but I've never thought of that building as anything other than horrid.

I must admit, the TGWU building doesn't look to bad at all, I think due to it's location and surrounding architecture, we are unfairly comparing it to classical architecture. The building is trying to fit in with it's surroundings, same colour, height massing, whilts being very different. Something totally different to it's surroundings would fit in better on this site, and the TGWU building would survive if built in a different location.


The other problem is this building is isolated on its own, on a traffic island. If that part of the city had developed around it, the building may not be at risk now.
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liverpolitan
February 17th, 2007, 04:46 PM
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Is it early 70s? I wonder if there is a 70s Society that could campaign to get it. Liverpool got so little of note during that decade, it's a shame to lose a genuinely good example. I can imagine in 30 years this being regarded as a really sad loss - the way we sometimes now look at good art deco buildings that were removed in the 70s and wish they had not been. It's been discussed here before I know, but I think some of us older members appreciate it simply because it was a modern office building containing proper regional headquarters functions at a time when such things were in massive decline in the city. I wonder what the square footage is, and how many people could work in there? Might it be big enough for a few hundred BBC employees, eg in their research department?

Awayo
February 17th, 2007, 04:51 PM
What's happened to the TGWU's Liverpool base. Has it been "regionalised", ie, Manchesterised?

Villiers Terrace
February 17th, 2007, 04:59 PM
Is it early 70s? I wonder if there is a 70s Society that could campaign to get it. Liverpool got so little of note during that decade, it's a shame to lose a genuinely good example. I can imagine in 30 years this being regarded as a really sad loss - the way we sometimes now look at good art deco buildings that were removed in the 70s and wish they had not been. It's been discussed here before I know, but I think some of us older members appreciate it simply because it was a modern office building containing proper regional headquarters functions at a time when such things were in massive decline in the city. I wonder what the square footage is, and how many people could work in there? Might it be big enough for a few hundred BBC employees, eg in their research department?

It was built between 77-78.

liverpolitan
February 17th, 2007, 07:41 PM
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7913/p5140710acz1.jpg

Scarecrow
February 17th, 2007, 07:44 PM
Look at all the foreigners. We really are a multicultural city!

Villiers Terrace
February 17th, 2007, 07:56 PM
Look at all the foreigners. We really are a multicultural city!

Yeah but five European Cups....!

Scarecrow
February 17th, 2007, 08:02 PM
So why don't the glory hunters fuck off to Madrid or Milan FFS?? They're more successful, and have a much better climate! Or is it just the window-licking type/budget airline brigade who choose the reds? :?

Awayo
February 17th, 2007, 09:46 PM
When I was Croatia, an enormous and frankly terrifying taxi driver who looked like he'd been biting the heads of babies as part of his Ustashe duties ten years previously told me that he and all of his mates are Milan or Juventus fans.

I told him that the Liverpool fans were fond of Biscan. He liked that, although his command that I "better use [him] for taxi all the time you're here, right?" nevertheless unnerved me slightly.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that I guess that small countries with crap leagues will follow the glamour outfits in the countries near to them.

the golden vision
February 17th, 2007, 11:23 PM
What's happened to the TGWU's Liverpool base. Has it been "regionalised", ie, Manchesterised?

Correct Awayo.

T0M
February 19th, 2007, 05:15 PM
My problem with the TGU building is that it sits in a prime location at the corner of a major thoroughfare through the city... and is this really what we want thousands of people to see as they pass the back of Liverpool every day?

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/1245/imgp3405zr1.jpg

Of course it all depends on what they intend to replace it with, but imagine a decent 12-15 storey building here, or even better a 20 storey building to compliment Lime St Gateway!

Even if this place was done up, it's never going to justify sitting in that prime location.. esspecially now that it's redundant..

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1130/imgp3407ue6.jpg

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/6829/imgp3408ai5.jpg

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3052/imgp3409ph6.jpg

Martin S
February 20th, 2007, 05:18 PM
Tom,

It is an odd location for an office building. Makes you wonder how many trade unionists would have been run over trying to get to it over the years. If it were pulled down, there would be an opportunity to simplify the road layout and, maybe allow the construction of a ground level road to replace the southern tunnel flyover and give the Museums and Art Galleries a rear facade.

All the same, as a building I think that, though it obviously needs some restoration, it is an attractive example of its style.

JUXTAPOL
December 10th, 2007, 10:31 PM
Protesters fight church demolition

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2007/12/10/protesters-fight-church-demolition-100252-20227149/


This is the church, i hope the developer is just trying it on, just to see if the council will approve demolition.

It is not listed.
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5663/zhighparkst4lm0.jpg

Ged
December 10th, 2007, 11:03 PM
Protesters fight church demolition

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2007/12/10/protesters-fight-church-demolition-100252-20227149/


This is the church, i hope the developer is just trying it on, just to see if the council will approve demolition.

It is not listed.
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5663/zhighparkst4lm0.jpg




This Church will not be knocked down.especially for 30 odd yuppie apartments.
You will see "People Power" at its best here from this Community.

Ged
December 10th, 2007, 11:12 PM
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3052/imgp3409ph6.jpg


Can anybody tell me the World famous establishment that stood here before this eyesore ?.

Just another one of them seeing who really knows Liverpool.
(G...Shhhh...Give em a chance Lad for a day or 2 ?? )

eyeam
December 11th, 2007, 01:40 AM
Tom,

It is an odd location for an office building. Makes you wonder how many trade unionists would have been run over trying to get to it over the years. If it were pulled down, there would be an opportunity to simplify the road layout and, maybe allow the construction of a ground level road to replace the southern tunnel flyover and give the Museums and Art Galleries a rear facade.

All the same, as a building I think that, though it obviously needs some restoration, it is an attractive example of its style.

I'd be very surprised if we didn't see a new building simply built on the current site

Apartments or grade-A office space overlooking the Walker gallery, Museum, St.Georges Hall etc would go for a pretty penny I reckon.

woody
December 11th, 2007, 02:21 AM
Can anybody tell me the World famous establishment that stood here before this eyesore ?.

Just another one of them seeing who really knows Liverpool.
(G...Shhhh...Give em a chance Lad for a day or 2 ?? )

The Company that made snooker tables ?

Ged
December 11th, 2007, 02:41 AM
The Company that made snooker tables ?



No..that was Clares on St Anne St,about 300 yards N/east,but I suspect you knew that didn't you woody...what was on that site of the TGWU.
Smart arse answers will do for now Lad..until some Balloon hits the nail on the head...about April coming.

Keayman
December 11th, 2007, 04:44 PM
Less of the lip Ged :lol:

v4vendetta
December 11th, 2007, 05:27 PM
No..that was Clares on St Anne St,about 300 yards N/east,but I suspect you knew that didn't you woody...what was on that site of the TGWU.
Smart arse answers will do for now Lad..until some Balloon hits the nail on the head...about April coming.

Do we get a clue, Ged?

Ged
December 11th, 2007, 05:44 PM
Do we get a clue, Ged?


It was a chippie v4..the steak pies "In the fat" were beautiful.
Shall I tell you the name of it ?

Awayo
December 11th, 2007, 05:44 PM
World famous establishment

Now if it were world famous, we'd all have heard of it, wouldn't we?

eyesore

The former "Fortress Liverpool", aka "the Kremlin", is an fine building.

Just another one of them seeing who really knows Liverpool.

And this is baffling. The building to which you refer isn't in Liverpool, the former TGWU office is.

As for not knowing what was once on that site, whilst there is nothing wrong with your being older than many of us on this site, nor is there in our comparative youth.

Ged
December 11th, 2007, 05:45 PM
Less of the lip Ged :lol:

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh now no givvin the game away..

Ged
December 11th, 2007, 05:49 PM
And this is baffling. The building to which you refer isn't in Liverpool.



Well it was when I walked past it this avvie..
My point proven about People on here (Not all by the way) knowing sweet FA about Liverpool.

Awayo
December 11th, 2007, 05:52 PM
Well it was when I walked past it this avvie..

Is it invisible? How does it and its replacement share the same site? Everettian parallel dimensions? Subtly, as a metaphor: "It's still there in my heart", as it were?

My level of bafflement deepens.

Ged
December 11th, 2007, 06:32 PM
Well it was when I walked past it this avvie..

Is it Invisible..? How does it and its replacement share the same site? Everettian parallel dimensions? Subtly, as a metaphor: "It's still there in my heart", as it were?

My level of bafflement deepens.


Nope..still there at 3.45 pm..Now it might be Invisible if it has been knocked down in the last 45 minutes.
I feel a "I didnt mean that building" coming on..yeahhhhhhh right.
I believe you awayo.:lol: ..
I'd get down to Specsavers though sharpish if I were you..must be the old age eh catching up with yer.

The Chippie in question was in the area by my copyright mark.


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/LIME%20ST%20AREA/TGWU009.jpg

Awayo
December 11th, 2007, 06:37 PM
Right, you aren't asking a question about the previous building on that site but rather its current occupant? Okay. Answer: it is the former TGWU building.

Got any hard ones, Ged?

Ged
December 11th, 2007, 06:45 PM
Right, you aren't asking a question about the previous building on that site but rather its current occupant? Okay. Answer: it is the former TGWU building.

Got any hard ones, Ged?


You know exactly what I asked relating to what was there previous to this "Eysore" being built..And so did other's judging by the replies.
Theres always got to be 1 smart arse though..Hasn't there ?
Just leave it Awayo before you dig the whole any bigger.

Awayo
December 11th, 2007, 06:51 PM
Eh? Like others, I thought straight away that you are talking about an older building previously on this site. You, for reasons I invite you to explain, nevertheless stated that the subject of your question was still standing, "when I walked past it this avvie" and furthermore was, "still there at 3.45 pm." (!)

I do admit to increasingly bafflement.

Ged
December 11th, 2007, 06:58 PM
Right, you aren't asking a question about the previous building on that site



Oh yes I was..Put your finger under each word and move across slowly Awayo.
I've made it a bit bigger for you..yer know..with having probs with the old mince pies and all that.

"Can anybody tell me the World famous establishment that stood here before this eysore"

Awayo
December 11th, 2007, 07:09 PM
Okay, this is where I came in. You claim that those who don't know the answer to your question "don't know Liverpool". How so? The building whose name is the answer to your question isn't in Liverpool. Now if you try to tell me that is was there at 3.45 pm this afternoon again, I'll break my pencil.

Ged
December 11th, 2007, 07:32 PM
Okay, this is where I came in. You claim that those who don't know the answer to your question "don't know Liverpool". How so? The building whose name is the answer to your question isn't in Liverpool. Now if you try to tell me that is was there at 3.45 pm this afternoon again, I'll break my pencil.



I'll tell you what Awayo..You Win..
OK..Merry Christmas...I could'nt be arsed with you twisting this and avoiding the original question.
This is where I go out.Okay.

Joe the red
December 11th, 2007, 07:50 PM
You've finally sussed us. We all know fuck all about liverpool and bow to your superior knowledge of 'world famous' buildings that used to be at the top of your road before many of us were born.

Ged
December 11th, 2007, 08:12 PM
You've finally sussed us. We all know fuck all about liverpool and bow to your superior knowledge of 'world famous' buildings that used to be at the top of your road before many of us were born.


I never said "You All" know fuck all Joe..My Smart arse attitude is directed at the know it all's with huge plans for Liverpool and fancy mock Skyscraper designs..the type who couldn't give 2 fucks about these Ideas ruining the lives of Inner City people..As long as these Buildings and bridges are put up who gives a fuck Joe ??..Not too many on here,is there ?,and definately not the ones with big Ideas who dont even live in Liverpool.

kung_fuzi
December 11th, 2007, 09:06 PM
I've lost the plot here,what's going on?

v4vendetta
December 11th, 2007, 09:17 PM
Was it the Shakespeare Theatre?

adman
December 11th, 2007, 09:35 PM
It was a chippie v4..the steak pies "In the fat" were beautiful.
Shall I tell you the name of it ?
Does it begin with a G, G?:)

Awayo
December 11th, 2007, 09:38 PM
Gaumont cinema was on Camden St, t'other side of Islington.

And world famous? The Shakespeare cannot have claimed this, Sam Wanamaker's tenure there notwithstanding. And wasn't it too on the other side of the road, roundabout where the car park at the back of the newish Commutation Row flats are?

Ged
December 11th, 2007, 09:48 PM
Does it begin with a G, G?:)


Yes adman,the surname begins with G..:applause:

When I say world famous I mean that the famous people who used the chippie went away to America or where ever and had nothing but great things to say about the place.
I dont mean its famous like Buckingham palace or anything like that.

Ged
December 11th, 2007, 09:53 PM
Was it the Shakespeare Theatre?

No v4..the Shakey was on Fraser St..

The chippie was on Christian St,which is still there but much shorter,The TGWU is not on Christian St.The original Transport house was though,almost opposite the TGWU building in the photos..Transport house was opposite Hymans which was on the corner of Camden St/Islington.

(Almost half of Christian St dissapeared when the New Islington,TGWU were being developed)

Bachy Soletanche
December 11th, 2007, 10:32 PM
Can anybody tell me the World famous establishment that stood here before this eyesore ?.

Just another one of them seeing who really knows Liverpool.
(G...Shhhh...Give em a chance Lad for a day or 2 ?? )

Was it the Chip Shop that Stan Boardman use to go to?

Ged
December 11th, 2007, 10:38 PM
Was it the Chip Shop that Stan Boardman use to go to?


No Stephen..his chippie got bombed by the Gerrrrrrrrmans didnt it ?.:)

Ged
December 12th, 2007, 12:14 AM
Ooops..

Merry Christmas :lol:

adman
December 12th, 2007, 12:23 AM
No Stephen..his chippie got bombed by the Gerrrrrrrrmans didnt it ?.:)
A load of Fokkers apparently:wink2:

JUXTAPOL
December 26th, 2007, 04:37 PM
Noticed the long derelict listed terrace on Shaw St is being further demolished, but i am sure this is for rebuild of the facade with modern rear.


Sad to see this quality go to be possibly replaced by a bland box shape, but happy to see the dereliction be removed and the street restored soon.
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4120/zshawstreetterrace2cx8.jpg

Tony_sw
December 26th, 2007, 07:47 PM
Yes adman,the surname begins with G..:applause:

I'm confused - there's nothing beginning with a "G".


http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/Tony_sw/commutationrow-1955.jpg



1968 Directory

Islington
William Brown Street to Mill Lane

County Sessions House - R. A. Jones, keeper
County Magistrates Office - Trevor Evans, clerk

car park - in 1938 no's 11 to 17 were occupied by Rushworth & Dreaper.

19 - Jenkins, R - Sewing machines agents....
21 - Wilson J. - boot fctrs.
23 - United Typewriters Company
25 - Liverpool Matthay School of Music
29 - Bethel Pierre, music teacher
29/33 - Liverpool Building Material Co. Ltd.
33 - Wellington P.H.

35 to 41 - T & G.


See you,

Tony

adman
December 26th, 2007, 08:47 PM
Hiya Tony,
thanks for the map. I love poring over them. Try Christian Street:)

Ged
December 27th, 2007, 08:06 PM
Noticed the long derelict listed terrace on Shaw St is being further demolished, but i am sure this is for rebuild of the facade with modern rear.


Sad to see this quality go to be possibly replaced by a bland box shape, but happy to see the dereliction be removed and the street restored soon.
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4120/zshawstreetterrace2cx8.jpg

If my bearings are correct that building is my old school.
The SFX "Annexe"..thanks for posting the pic JUXTAPOL.

Ged
December 27th, 2007, 09:10 PM
I'm confused - there's nothing beginning with a "G".


1968 Directory

Islington
William Brown Street to Mill Lane

County Sessions House - R. A. Jones, keeper
County Magistrates Office - Trevor Evans, clerk

car park - in 1938 no's 11 to 17 were occupied by Rushworth & Dreaper.

19 - Jenkins, R - Sewing machines agents....
21 - Wilson J. - boot fctrs.
23 - United Typewriters Company
25 - Liverpool Matthay School of Music
29 - Bethel Pierre, music teacher
29/33 - Liverpool Building Material Co. Ltd.
33 - Wellington P.H.

35 to 41 - T & G.


See you,

Tony


Tony,The building on the right nearest the parked cars was the Chipshop that began with the letter G,It was on the corner of Islington place and Christian St..that part of Christian St has now all gone and the TGWU building now stands there.
Camden St and the Gaumont picture house can be seen in the distance past what was Transport house on the left.
Hunter St on your map is the Street to the right of this 1st photo.
The building on the Immediate left was St Anne's school.

This 1st photograph was taken in 1966 by Harry Ainscough.

I have arrowed the exact location of the Chippie on your map..Thanks for putting that on by the way Tony..all the best :cheers:



http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/Gardens%20and%20Scottie%20Rd/JohnyGianellis.jpg


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/Gardens%20and%20Scottie%20Rd/commutationrow-1955.jpg


And This photograph was taken from approx the same spot as the Harry Ainscough pic.


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/Gardens%20and%20Scottie%20Rd/gerardgardensnow.jpg

JUXTAPOL
October 9th, 2008, 09:46 PM
This building on Wellington Rd now demolished...:bash:

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9761/zburntoutuproadfromflorence28w.jpg

Babaloo
October 11th, 2008, 03:02 PM
That must have just happened :bash:

The developers of the flats opposite (former Wellington Rd School) were probably complaining that it was putting people off buying/renting!

It was always difficult to see a way back for this one. Let's hope the Florrie doesn't go the same way. For a building that is supposed to be 'saved' and 'about to be rennovated' little seems to be happening.