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Travis007 May 8th, 2005, 04:31 AM I think this is the 3 towers that are planned for etobicoke that are 39,36,33 stories. I really hope that they get approved for that height, because the towers look really nice and elegant. Check it out:
http://www.kirkorarchitects.com/ >Projects>Upcoming>The Last box
Filip May 8th, 2005, 04:50 AM ^We've had a thread about this a long time ago, but thanks for bringing it up again. These towers will be rising a block from my house, and frankly they'll stick out like a sore thumb (note that the tallest tower in the area - Marina Del Rey will be 10 storeys shorter). But, I spoke to the dude who does the zoning for the area and he's assured me that the city does not favour this project so there are not many chances of seeing it rise.
Travis007 May 8th, 2005, 09:00 PM ^We've had a thread about this a long time ago, but thanks for bringing it up again. These towers will be rising a block from my house, and frankly they'll stick out like a sore thumb (note that the tallest tower in the area - Marina Del Rey will be 10 storeys shorter). But, I spoke to the dude who does the zoning for the area and he's assured me that the city does not favour this project so there are not many chances of seeing it rise.
Actually, the tallest Marina Del Ray tower is 33 storeys, not that far away from these towers. It would suck to see these go down the drain, Etobicoke needs some taller buildings.
Filip May 8th, 2005, 11:01 PM ^They won't rise, thank god. Why would you want them to though? As a resident of Humber Bay shores I'm telling you they'd suck big time. Now one project I'm excited about rising in Mimico is the Fogh Marina Site. At the corner of Legion road and Lakeshore they'll be 23 and 26 storeys each with some kind of sail thingie on the top. Now that's a project for that area, not three huge ass towers.
Travis007 May 9th, 2005, 03:17 AM Sorry, I'm just a crazy skyscraper enthusiast who likes any tall building going up in Toronto. So there's no way that these huge ass towers will go up, not even at a smaller scale? These Fogh Marina Site towers sound interesting, do you have a pic?
BTW: Filip, it's time to change your sig, Emporis now lists Toronto to have 1,981 buildings, they seem to have added a few more proposals. Closing in on 2000 soon! :D
valantino May 9th, 2005, 03:54 AM "They won't rise, thank god"
Perhaps a few floors shorter but they will rise
"As a resident of Humber Bay shores I'm telling you they'd suck big time."
I'd say most of the new development in Humber Bay Shores sucks big time
Filip May 9th, 2005, 04:26 AM "They won't rise, thank god"
Perhaps a few floors shorter but they will rise
"As a resident of Humber Bay shores I'm telling you they'd suck big time."
I'd say most of the new development in Humber Bay Shores sucks big time
When's the last time you've been here.:|
As it remains, this is one of the most wanted pieces of real estate in Toronto.
There is only one condo ruining the area and it's the Waterford towers. The rest all have a great resort design complimenting the park and lake right in front. It's great living here, believe me. Just today I left my townhome walked down to Humber Bay Park West, then East then down to Palace Pier. Not many people in Toronto can do that, and that's why condos will continue to rise here (hopefully not blocking my view of the lake).
Filip May 9th, 2005, 04:30 AM Sorry, I'm just a crazy skyscraper enthusiast who likes any tall building going up in Toronto. So there's no way that these huge ass towers will go up, not even at a smaller scale? These Fogh Marina Site towers sound interesting, do you have a pic?
BTW: Filip, it's time to change your sig, Emporis now lists Toronto to have 1,981 buildings, they seem to have added a few more proposals. Closing in on 2000 soon! :D
I guess I will.:tongue2:
Here's a link for the development plans on the Fogh Marina site:
http://humberbayshores.org/Documents/Foghrpt02.pdf
Roch5220 May 9th, 2005, 04:32 AM I think this is the 3 towers that are planned for etobicoke that are 39,36,33 stories. I really hope that they get approved for that height, because the towers look really nice and elegant. Check it out:
http://www.kirkorarchitects.com/ >Projects>Upcoming>The Last box
Did you see the old ritz cartlon renderings, under the commercial links. Thank god this form didn't go through.
Filip May 9th, 2005, 04:44 AM Here's one of the main reasons why the city is hesitating with this project:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/filipv/Torontonabe/DCP_1647.jpg
As you can see there are two office towers on the site with about 6 floors. The SNC Lavalin office and Nabisco offices. They will have to be torn down.
valantino May 9th, 2005, 08:44 AM When's the last time you've been here.
As it remains, this is one of the most wanted pieces of real estate in Toronto.
There is only one condo ruining the area and it's the Waterford towers.
Just recently - BTW, I'm not necessarily refering to design of the individual buildings but the way each development interacts with those surrounding it. (The Waterford towers appears to be the only development with a significant retail podium. )
Sorry, but an isolated mess of towers with an abundance of green space and little else except for a few convience stores and a nearby big box plaza is not anything I would label desirable or else I would have stayed longer at Palace Pier instead of moving back to familiar grounds out east
Here's one of the main reasons why the city is hesitating with this project
But whether this project goes ahead or not is no longer up to the city
Homer J. Simpson May 9th, 2005, 09:24 PM I have no controll over this developement, but I wish I did.
As funny as it might sound, I don't want any developements to obscur the view from the Gardiner of downtown. Building highrises on the west bank of Humber Bay could and alread does do this.
Travis007 May 10th, 2005, 12:01 AM Did you see the old ritz cartlon renderings, under the commercial links. Thank god this form didn't go through.
That's actually the original design for Trump when Ritz was the only developer. The city actually turned down the design because it looked so hideous. It's looks the Taj Majal or something but in a tower form. :(
Travis007 May 10th, 2005, 12:05 AM I guess I will.:tongue2:
Here's a link for the development plans on the Fogh Marina site:
http://humberbayshores.org/Documents/Foghrpt02.pdf
Oh you mean the Mistral Phase I&II. They look nice and it does definately seem more appropriate for the area.
As for the taller towers, only time can tell the fate of it... :(
Filip May 10th, 2005, 03:08 AM Sorry, but an isolated mess of towers with an abundance of green space and little else except for a few convience stores and a nearby big box plaza is not anything I would label desirable or else I would have stayed longer at Palace Pier instead of moving back to familiar grounds out east
Isolated mess of towers? You've got to be kidding right? What about Mimico village? there's your shopping. Abudance of green space?!?!?!!?!? SINCE WHEN ARE PARKS BAD?!?!?!?!? Yes it's nice living in an area surrounded by parks and waterfornt promenades. I'm sorry if Queen st. West does not provide that for you.:| As it happens, the land value of that area is skyrocketing, townhomes in my area have almost doubled in price since they were built about 10 years ago. It's desirable, hell yeah it is, houses here sell like hotcakes. Too bad you didn't enjoy it, I pitty that.:cheers:
For you who'll believe him, here's the REAL Humber Bay Shores/Mimico.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/filipv/Torontonabe/DCP_1707.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/filipv/Torontonabe/DCP_1626.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/filipv/Torontonabe/DCP_1615.jpg
Your typical townhomes:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/filipv/Torontonabe/DCP_1605.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/filipv/Toronto%20lake/DCP_1205.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/filipv/Toronto%20lake/DCP_1195.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/filipv/Toronto%20lake/DCP_1235.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/filipv/Toronto%20lake/DCP_1219.jpg
Yeah, isolated and abundance of green space - yeah since when are peace and parks a bad thing?:|
Next time you'll be going around badmouthing my hood you better have some facts to back up that bullshit of yours.
Filip May 10th, 2005, 03:57 AM Oh you mean the Mistral Phase I&II. They look nice and it does definately seem more appropriate for the area.
As for the taller towers, only time can tell the fate of it... :(
Yeah, them. We all call them here the Fogh Marina towers cause they'll be rising out of the Fogh Marina site duh.:D Those towers will look great here in Mimico. They somehow mimic what we're used to, water. Those taller towers will only rise apparently if a mall or a lot of street level retail is incorporated into the base. Hell, we need more fancy schmancy stores around here eh?
Travis007 May 10th, 2005, 04:05 AM Yeah, them. We all call them here the Fogh Marina towers cause they'll be rising out of the Fogh Marina site duh.:D Those towers will look great here in Mimico. They somehow mimic what we're used to, water. Those taller towers will only rise apparently if a mall or a lot of street level retail is incorporated into the base. Hell, we need more fancy schmancy stores around here eh?
According to the render, there seems to be a big complex at the base of the towers, most likely a big mall/amenities centre for the towers.
BTW: Bad news, Pemberton is also developing 2 towers (18 &19 floors)for the same area too, called "Park Lake Towers" (An any duller name? :( ). I would expect it to turn out like the Waterford Towers. :runaway:
Filip May 10th, 2005, 05:10 AM According to the render, there seems to be a big complex at the base of the towers, most likely a big mall/amenities centre for the towers.
BTW: Bad news, Pemberton is also developing 2 towers (18 &19 floors)for the same area too, called "Park Lake Towers" (An any duller name? :( ). I would expect it to turn out like the Waterford Towers. :runaway:
Ohhh link me or something. Sounds interesting. But yeah, you're right they'll probably turn out like the Waterford.:runaway:
Funny Park Lake towers, that's exactly what that area encompasses LOL.;)
Most importantly where?!?! We're running out of space here eh unless you start building on top of Mr. Christie's.:D
Filip May 10th, 2005, 05:28 AM ^Nvm I found out where it is. It's not in Humber Bay Shores, since that neighbourhood ends at the Humber River. I don't favour it, it's gonna stick out silly in a sea of houses.
valantino May 10th, 2005, 05:58 AM Isolated mess of towers? You've got to be kidding right? What about Mimico village? there's your shopping. Abudance of green space?!?!?!!?!? SINCE WHEN ARE PARKS BAD?!?!?!?!?
I said the lack of anything besides the greenspace is unappealing to me and Mimico Village is rather long, visually unpleasant walk from where all the construction activity has been in the last few years
As it happens, the land value of that area is skyrocketing, townhomes in my area have almost doubled in price since they were built about 10 years ago.
That's quite commonplace in many parts of the city especially within the old city and along Yonge corridor. Around here, new houses that sold for 450000 in 1995 are now selling for 1.3 million after all the biddings wars have ended
I'm sorry if Queen st. West does not provide that for you
Huh? Are you suggesting that Humber Bay Shores is close to Queen Street West or are you (more likely) assuming I live somewhere along Queen Street W? Dude, When I say east I MEAN east
Around here Pemberton Group is in the process of completing a row of architecturally insignificant mid-rise condominium buildings with street facing retail while in yours they plan on building two architecturally insignificant highrises (15 and 16 floors) on top of a 4 storey parkade
Filip May 10th, 2005, 11:15 PM I said the lack of anything besides the greenspace is unappealing to me and Mimico Village is rather long, visually unpleasant walk from where all the construction activity has been in the last few years
Not exactly, I'd say that part of the walk is the nicest. Depends if you walk on the promenade or on Lakeshore, but as it happens the area has been revitalized and constant changes are being brought to the parks and roads around here. Developpers know what they're doing if they're willing to invest such exhorbitant amounts of money into a rather "isolated" area. People want to live here, therefore the enormous boom in construction we're having. Can't wait to have the Waterview towers phase II going up with a little mall at the bottom.
That's quite commonplace in many parts of the city especially within the old city and along Yonge corridor. Around here, new houses that sold for 450000 in 1995 are now selling for 1.3 million after all the biddings wars have ended
Agreed, but this isn't downtown. This is a suburb of Toronto.
Prices in most Etobicoke areas have been slumping lately but HBS has been rising dramatically.
Huh? Are you suggesting that Humber Bay Shores is close to Queen Street West or are you (more likely) assuming I live somewhere along Queen Street W? Dude, When I say east I MEAN east
I remember your location said 1001 Queen St West or smth, maybe I confused you with another forumer but it's a mistake on my part to be making assumptions anyway...
Travis007 May 10th, 2005, 11:20 PM Not exactly, I'd say that part of the walk is the nicest. Depends if you walk on the promenade or on Lakeshore, but as it happens the area has been revitalized and constant changes are being brought to the parks and roads around here. Developpers know what they're doing if they're willing to invest such exhorbitant amounts of money into a rather "isolated" area.
Agreed, but this isn't downtown. This is a suburb of Toronto.
Prices in most Etobicoke areas have been slumping lately but HBS has been rising dramatically.
I remember your location said 1001 Queen St West or smth, maybe I confused you with another forumer but it's a mistake on my part to be making assumptions anyway...
1001 Queen West is actually the address for the mental institute on queen street.
:runaway:
Filip May 11th, 2005, 12:36 AM 1001 Queen West is actually the address for the mental institute on queen street.
:runaway:
Heh, what a tidbit of irony there.:D
valantino May 11th, 2005, 07:12 AM What irony? It was intentional!
Whether my hamster has poor co-ordination or its wheel simply is not lubricated is a moot point - new, poorly planned, resort-style development isn't for everyone
Filip May 11th, 2005, 10:13 PM What irony? It was intentional!
Whether my hamster has poor co-ordination or its wheel simply is not lubricated is a moot point - new, poorly planned, resort-style development isn't for everyone
Eh? Poorly planned? Dude, more than 10 years of planning has gone into Humber Bay Shores! And less than 50% of the plan is done, that's why it does look and I agree incomplete. There's so much more to be done, and when it's gonna be done this will be the place to be.
But I finally agree with you, resort styled - lakeside living is not for everyone.
valantino May 12th, 2005, 04:10 AM Dude, more than 10 years of planning has gone into Humber Bay Shores!
Tens years of planning went into St Jamestown, Regent Park, etc. and look how they turned out.
There is no sense of consistency in Humber Bay Shores - you have townhomes literally squished in between mid-rises and on the north side retail podiums neighbouring apartment patios . Good planning is a little more than just placing high density, singular developments next to one another and I just don't see a community as to what I'm used to developing out of this mess
lakeside living is not for everyone.
I spent the majority of my childhood on Toronto's beaches, building castles out of purple stained sand, burying thousands of dead smelts in the fall , and swallowing far too much Lake Ontario water to be this healthy and after moving around (including other cities) I have ended almost exactly where I started.
I'm sorry if i'm a little harsh but my chain coffee house (damn Vancouver) just recently burnt to the ground
Filip May 12th, 2005, 05:23 AM Tens years of planning went into St Jamestown, Regent Park, etc. and look how they turned out.
There is no sense of consistency in Humber Bay Shores - you have townhomes literally squished in between mid-rises and on the north side retail podiums neighbouring apartment patios . Good planning is a little more than just placing high density, singular developments next to one another and I just don't see a community as to what I'm used to developing out of this mess
St Jamestown, Regent Park etc... Are all affordable housing projects. HBS is far from being affordable. Here you're building an expensive, posh neighbourhood encompassing a Miami styled living in the great white north. This is careful planning believe me. I've seen the plans last month during the neighbourhood meeting and it will be sweet. Well, for you skyscraper enthusiasts this area will be a new skyline rising dramatically on the western shores of Toronto.
SD May 12th, 2005, 07:49 AM St Jamestown, Regent Park etc... Are all affordable housing projects. HBS is far from being affordable. Here you're building an expensive, posh neighbourhood encompassing a Miami styled living in the great white north. This is careful planning believe me. I've seen the plans last month during the neighbourhood meeting and it will be sweet. Well, for you skyscraper enthusiasts this area will be a new skyline rising dramatically on the western shores of Toronto.
Humber, at least where of those new Condos popping up near Palace Pier is a mess. Hardly what I'd call good planning.
valantino May 12th, 2005, 05:05 PM St Jamestown, Cresentown, Thorncliffe Park, etc. are NOT in any way 'projects' eventough they may seem so today. And .... all except for a few buildings at Humber Bay Shores are affordable in the same sense as Cityplace, Waterparkcity, 18 Yonge are affordable
"Here you're building an expensive, posh neighbourhood encompassing a Miami styled living in the great white north"
I have property in Miami and so far I don't see anything 'Miami' about Humber Bay Shores (well, maybe some far off suburb of Miami)
KGB May 13th, 2005, 02:58 AM Obviously, we need to differentiate bewween the definitions of "affordable" housing...and subsidized housing.
Personally, I don't mind a little bit of HBS stuff.
KGB
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