I dont want to open a new anti-semitic thread, my intention is only to discuss this objectivily, since Ive heard many stories of how jews are treating palestinians in Israel. Ive also heard that jewish settlements in Gaza and Westbank isolate themself from the palestinians.

How usual is there with jewish-palestinian marriage? What differences are there in employment between different ethnics? How much tolerance is there between ethnics? Is muslims welcomed to represent Israel in the Olympics or Eurovision for example?

about West Bank and Gaza u are right they isolate themself not only from palestinians from Israel too:)) many people in Israel don't like them(me too)
jewish-palestinian marriage u can meet some couples but not many!jewish families don't speak with girl if she married with palestinian/arab.(in most of situations)
in our national soccer team we has 2 arabs(Walid Badir and Abbas Suwan) in our parlament we has 8 arab deputes,1 bedouin and 1 druz! Mira Awad was participated in Semi final for represent Israel in Eurovision
in my work we has arab worker and he has good relations with anybody!without discrimination but he is israeli arab!it's different!

and about palestinians:many palestinian gays escaped from Palestine to Tel Aviv and they have israeli boyfriends...everyday more than 5,000 palestinians come to work in Israel in farms!(in israeli farms working foreign people and arabs)

about West Bank and Gaza u are right they isolate themself not only from palestinians from Israel too:)) many people in Israel don't like them(me too)
jewish-palestinian marriage u can meet some couples but not many!jewish families don't speak with girl if she married with palestinian/arab.(in most of situations)
in our national soccer team we has 2 arabs(Walid Badir and Abbas Suwan) in our parlament we has 8 arab deputes,1 bedouin and 1 druz! Mira Awad was participated in Semi final for represent Israel in Eurovision
in my work we has arab worker and he has good relations with anybody!without discrimination but he is israeli arab!it's different!

and about palestinians:many palestinian gays escaped from Palestine to Tel Aviv and they have israeli boyfriends...everyday more than 5,000 palestinians come to work in Israel in farms!(in israeli farms working foreign people and arabs)
OMG... Israel is a perfect country then... :sleepy:

Hey Kvl'

Are you an Israeli living in Poland? or just a Polish guy who knows Hebrew?

Hey Kvl'

Are you an Israeli living in Poland? or just a Polish guy who knows Hebrew?
1st sentence is wrong
second also...
I'm just a guy who's in love with Shiri's song :P and Israeli music and in Israel as well :D

good,mate:))

But my 1st love was and always will be Malta, which is more friendly country (at least it seems) :)

jewish families don't speak with girl if she married with palestinian/arab.(in most of situations)
Why?? You will never have peace with your neighbours unless you stop treating their people like enemys.

Why?? You will never have peace with your neighbours unless you stop treating their people like enemys.

Jew marry only with jews.....

Other than that, situation seems to be alright.

I'd have no problem with intermarriage, etc. If the arabs in Israel weren't so damn primitive about it ( and a whole bunch of other issues). I know this from first hand, so please don't lecture me.

A jewish girl married to an arab is of no problem to me, if he's an ok guy. Problem is, relating to women, most of them aren't.

I still wait for the day when a jewish guy can try and date an arab girl without both of them found dead in a ditch because of "family honour", or crazy shit like that.

Why?? You will never have peace with your neighbours unless you stop treating their people like enemys.

well, try to convince the arabs...the israelis have sought peace for 50 years with them!

Why?? You will never have peace with your neighbours unless you stop treating their people like enemys.
How do you mean that, Scotty? How does Israel treat its neighbors like its enemies?

Do you mean Israel should disregard the fact that the Arabs attacked israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1980s from Lebanon, 1990s from the intafada, 2000s from iraq and the 2nd intifada and still from lebanon again. Is that what you mean? Do you mean that Israel should disregard that the majority of the Arab world still claims to be at war with Israel and is still explicilty calling for Israel's destruction?

Sure, why didn't Israel think of that too? Brilliant! Open the borders. No more security checks. No more demands that PLA-upported gunmen stop bursting into restaurants and slaughtering innocent diners. Israel should treat their neighbors without suspiscion or concern. Love thy neighbor, Oh Israel. Do you really think that strategy will bring peace? Why? has something changed in the last 55 years or so? If so, Scotty, please tell us what changed.

Tell me Scotty, when did Israel turn away from a neighbor that has come to cease hostilities in a manner that was open and accountable? Twice Israel accepted the overtures of Egypt. After the first time, and Egypt attacked again anyways, Israel still made a 'peace' with them. The cesation of hostilities with Jordan has worked well, and Jordan benefits from it. Let the other Arab neighbors stop treating Israel as their enemy and then there may be peace.

How do you mean that, Scotty? How does Israel treat its neighbors like its enemies?

Do you mean Israel should disregard the fact that the Arabs attacked israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1980s from Lebanon, 1990s from the intafada, 2000s from iraq and the 2nd intifada and still from lebanon again. Is that what you mean? Do you mean that Israel should disregard that the majority of the Arab world still claims to be at war with Israel and is still explicilty calling for Israel's destruction?


Come on if u want to be non biased and objective u would think that those arabs ur talking about still think that they own the place. Thats why they were trying to take it back. If a theif stole money from u. And then u tried one times, two times and three times. Would that make u the one who started the problem?

Plz how many of u have born in Israel? If u were how many of ur fathers born in Israel? If they were born how many of ur grandfathers were born in Israel. For more than 1400 years arabs (muslims) were always more than the number of jews. Am I wrong?

Can u stop acting as the innocent child here. The jewsih state is struggeling to live. Thats why it would make anything to stay like this. That also doesnt deny the fact the the place was Islamic and full of arabs until u kicked them all.

If u want to have a productive chat u should mention all the facts and not only the good one (if u have any) from ur side.

Everythingisone, I meant the arabs who is israelis citzens.

Come on if u want to be non biased and objective u would think that those arabs ur talking about still think that they own the place. Thats why they were trying to take it back. If a theif stole money from u. And then u tried one times, two times and three times. Would that make u the one who started the problem?

Plz how many of u have born in Israel? If u were how many of ur fathers born in Israel? If they were born how many of ur grandfathers were born in Israel. For more than 1400 years arabs (muslims) were always more than the number of jews. Am I wrong?

Can u stop acting as the innocent child here. The jewsih state is struggeling to live. Thats why it would make anything to stay like this. That also doesnt deny the fact the the place was Islamic and full of arabs until u kicked them all.

If u want to have a productive chat u should mention all the facts and not only the good one (if u have any) from ur side.
What do you mean by Would that make u the one who started the problem? You cannot be talking about Israel. Please explain what you mean.

Based on your own thinking, the Jews had every right to expell everyone since the Land of Israel is Jewish land. The Jews were kicked out and now they returned.

However, that is not what the Jews did. You can blame the UN if you want for creating the State of Israel. You can blame the Arabs for continuing the fight and for stealing the Palestinian land away from them in 1948. So let's go, let's talk facts.

I dont want to open a new anti-semitic thread, my intention is only to discuss this objectivily, since Ive heard many stories of how jews are treating palestinians in Israel. Ive also heard that jewish settlements in Gaza and Westbank isolate themself from the palestinians.

How usual is there with jewish-palestinian marriage? What differences are there in employment between different ethnics? How much tolerance is there between ethnics? Is muslims welcomed to represent Israel in the Olympics or Eurovision for example?
Muslims are represented in the Israeli Knesset(Parliament) and there are over a million arabs who live in Israel, not counting Judea , Samaria, and Gazah. The reason the "settlers" isolate themselves is because they need to protect themselves from being killed by arab militants. The Whole existance of Israel is not recognized nor accepted in the arab world or for that matter the muslim world. therefore for jews to live in predominatly arab lands is called a "crime" while a palestinian arab can demand all the rights and peacefully suntan on a tel aviv beach. Do you Scotty see a bias hear?

Muslims are represented in the Israeli Knesset(Parliament) and there are over a million arabs who live in Israel, not counting Judea , Samaria, and Gazah. The reason the "settlers" isolate themselves is because they need to protect themselves from being killed by arab militants. The Whole existance of Israel is not recognized nor accepted in the arab world or for that matter the muslim world. therefore for jews to live in predominatly arab lands is called a "crime" while a palestinian arab can demand all the rights and peacefully suntan on a tel aviv beach. Do you Scotty see a bias hear?

Israel was forced to forced to have those arabs. The plan was to kick all the arabs out of the country but that didnt work in 1948. They kicked couple of millions but some struggeled to stay there.

If the millions (more than 10million) palestanias who are the sons of the original palestanins will be able to come back to their country then it would be fine. Dont forget that any new commer will never gain the Israeli citzenship if he wasnt a jew.

Israel was forced to forced to have those arabs. The plan was to kick all the arabs out of the country but that didnt work in 1948. They kicked couple of millions but some struggeled to stay there.

If the millions (more than 10million) palestanias who are the sons of the original palestanins will be able to come back to their country then it would be fine. Dont forget that any new commer will never gain the Israeli citzenship if he wasnt a jew.

Never!!! Palestinian returning to israel=end to Israel!NEVER NEVER NEVER!


And to u'r another question:"How much of us israelies"

65%of israeli citizens are israelies!(my father born here)and for u the first alliya(emmigration) was in 1881!(from Russia and Poland)but before 1881 jews lived in Jerusalem too!

hmm.. why did the zionist pick the already populated palestina instead of an area with very few citzens or without any population? why not island? I mean the original reason was just to protect the jews.. it would be much simpler to do that in iceland instead of the islamic palestina.

Never!!! Palestinian returning to israel=end to Israel!NEVER NEVER NEVER!


so you dont want to see palestinians around the world returning to the land of their roots?

u are really think palestinians from USA,Europe will return to palestine?
only palestinians from Lebanon,Syria,Egypt and Jordan will return because arab "brothers" so like palestinians that they still lives in refugess camp!(after 57 years) why palestinians can;t live in Beirut?
Palestine it's only marrionette for arab countries against Israel

u are really think palestinians from USA,Europe will return to palestine?


if your government did not discriminate against them then im sure they would.

hehe u are funny!

so you dont want to see palestinians around the world returning to the land of their roots?
They are welcome to live wherever they want. Any country is allowed to determine who they will let live there and who they will not let live there. They are welcome to move wherever they are welcomed.

It is interesting that when Jordan stole the Palestinian land in 1948 nobody complained how the Palestinians had nowhere to live. Jordan did not let those people onto the land that was designated for them by the UN. Instead, Jordan stole it. The people stayed in refugee camps even though the land designated as the Palestinian state was not controlled by Israel. It was controlled by the brethren of the people 'displaced'.

Go learn how and why they were displaced. The majority were displaced by other Arab countries; Jordan and Syria/Egypt.

If the Palestinians are able to create their own country, they can welcome the people they call Palestinian refugees. That will be the land of their roots controlled by their own people.

Israel certainly is not responsible for taking them in.

If their own brethren did not discriminate against them for 60 years they would have a homeland a long time ago.

so you dont want to see palestinians around the world returning to the land of their roots?
Who is a palestinian? When Jordan was part of East Palestine and then forged into it's own state with the help of Britain to the Hashemites, who are only 10% of the population, the rest are Arab palestinians who became Jordanian citizens. Point being out of all these countries in the region which became states they are inhabited by majority of Arabs. In the Ottoman empire Palestine was a part of Syria. Please do not say that Arabs who lived in Palestine stem from the ancient Philistines, who do not exist anymore and were not even semitic peoples..They were descendants of Agean Greeks!

hmm.. why did the zionist pick the already populated palestina instead of an area with very few citzens or without any population? why not island? I mean the original reason was just to protect the jews.. it would be much simpler to do that in iceland instead of the islamic palestina.
Scotty you amaze me. First off, Zionism was a nationalist movement which stemmed from the American, and French Revolutions. It was not a religious Movement, or not even one for the general protection. It was a movement to re-establish a Jewish state in Palestine, not instead of Palestine. Read Theodore Herzel's "The State of the Jews"

if your government did not discriminate against them then im sure they would.
It is not the Israeli Government, it is Arab governments in General who only cater to the upper class arabs. This has been going on since beginhg of Arab occupation of the Middle East. Point being that it is not part of Arab political Culture to be even handed or democratic, oh no, only for Sheiks and prominent families. But I guess you blame all Palestinian problems on the Israelis, right? No one from your "Government" is guilty?

Israel was forced to forced to have those arabs. The plan was to kick all the arabs out of the country but that didnt work in 1948. They kicked couple of millions but some struggeled to stay there.

If the millions (more than 10million) palestanias who are the sons of the original palestanins will be able to come back to their country then it would be fine. Dont forget that any new commer will never gain the Israeli citzenship if he wasnt a jew.
I do not understand where you get your lopsided,and dangerous information;perhaps the United Arab Emirates,of their media's anti-Israeli bias? Or maybe from any Arabian school in that Region where there is no map of israel any where taught. What Millions!!? there were 700.000 Arabs who fled Western Palestine because there was a WAR which was not started by Israel proclaiming independence in 1948, but by five Arab states who were determined to eliminate it. Secondly after 1949, Jordan took over the 'West Bank' where arabs were safe,(second class citizens by Jordan), but safe. The rest of the arab population was always living among the Jews on the Israeli coast and up in the Galilie. Israel was not forced to nothing only to accept anti Israeli bias from people who study of history not from official documents; only from other biased opinions. You would not happen to be one of those people; would you?

I do not understand where you get your lopsided,and dangerous information;perhaps the United Arab Emirates,of their media's anti-Israeli bias? Or maybe from any Arabian school in that Region where there is no map of israel any where taught. What Millions!!? there were 700.000 Arabs who fled Western Palestine because there was a WAR which was not started by Israel proclaiming independence in 1948, but by five Arab states who were determined to eliminate it. Secondly after 1949, Jordan took over the 'West Bank' where arabs were safe,(second class citizens by Jordan), but safe. The rest of the arab population was always living among the Jews on the Israeli coast and up in the Galilie. Israel was not forced to nothing only to accept anti Israeli bias from people who study of history not from official documents; only from other biased opinions. You would not happen to be one of those people; would you?

If u read carefully I am talking about the millions nowadays. :sleepy: Scotty they didnt mind having another place to live in. The other alternatives were either bahrian or Kenya.

The other thing about Jordan stolen palestanians's both ara arab Islamic countries so it wouldnt be a problem. We are so keen on union so why would we complain.

Tell me how many of ur grand fathers were born in Israel? none?

It is not the Israeli Government, it is Arab governments in General who only cater to the upper class arabs. This has been going on since beginhg of Arab occupation of the Middle East. Point being that it is not part of Arab political Culture to be even handed or democratic, oh no, only for Sheiks and prominent families. But I guess you blame all Palestinian problems on the Israelis, right? No one from your "Government" is guilty?

Of cours most of the arab government were guilty at that time. Because they didnt fight well and they were (and still) corrupted. If we didnt have those spoiled government u wouldnt have heard of an entity called Israel.

Scotty you amaze me. First off, Zionism was a nationalist movement which stemmed from the American, and French Revolutions. It was not a religious Movement, or not even one for the general protection. It was a movement to re-establish a Jewish state in Palestine, not instead of Palestine. Read Theodore Herzel's "The State of the Jews"

u should talk to some of ur other Israeli Jewsih friends who cannot distinguish between Zionism and Judasim.

u should talk to some of ur other Israeli Jewsih friends who cannot distinguish between Zionism and Judasim.
Zionism has nothing to do with Torah or Judaism. What difference does it make if you think you know someone who thinks they are the same. It doesn't make a difference the you think there were corrupt Arab governments or not, Israel's existence is not dependent on them.

And if the idea that Jordan stole the Palestinian's land does not bother you, then why should I care that it bothers you that Israel exists. Because if you don't care that Jordan stole their land and kept them in refugee camps, but it does bother you that Israel exists, then you really do not care what so ever about the Palestinians and their nationalist desires, you only care about destroying Israel. If that is the case, you and your ideas are not worth discussing.

Tell me how many of ur grand fathers were born in Israel? none?[/QUOTE]


i said u first alliyah to Israel were in 1881 year!(i think it's grand grandfather)
in this alliyah came to Eretz Yisrael more than 250,000 jews from Russia and Poland
second alliyah was in 1921 150,000 came from Russia and Poland too(grandfather)
there were third and firth emmigrations
untill 1948 in Israel lived 800,000 jews!
in 1950 came to Israel big alliyah(jews) from arab countries! they came without all them riches! because arab governments confiscated all!what do u think about it?

and about Zionism! Zionism it's not religion !i'm zioni but im really not religious(i vote for Shinui:)

Zionism has nothing to do with Torah or Judaism. What difference does it make if you think you know someone who thinks they are the same. It doesn't make a difference the you think there were corrupt Arab governments or not, Israel's existence is not dependent on them.

And if the idea that Jordan stole the Palestinian's land does not bother you, then why should I care that it bothers you that Israel exists. Because if you don't care that Jordan stole their land and kept them in refugee camps, but it does bother you that Israel exists, then you really do not care what so ever about the Palestinians and their nationalist desires, you only care about destroying Israel. If that is the case, you and your ideas are not worth discussing.

That is why I said SOME. because some time ago when we discuss zionisim and judasim 2 or 3 Israeli forumers said that Judasim and Zionism is the same.

Again Jordan, Palestine, UAE or any arabic or islamic countries are the same. We dont call that a stole because we share the Islamic values so it wouldnt be important. Those countries are just borders.

it's not same but it's not so different!
because every good jew he is zioni:)

Again Jordan, Palestine, UAE or any arabic or islamic countries are the same. We dont call that a stole because we share the Islamic values so it wouldnt be important. Those countries are just borders.
Just because you have double standards, why should the rest of the world have to put up with it? It is either stealing or not. If there was no issue with the situation with displaced people when Jordan illegally controlled and stole the Palestinian's land in 1948, then there cannot be any issue with it 20 years later or 60 years later with regards to Israel.

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hehe u are funny!
It's not funny at all. You both are right partly. Israel isn't innocent and teh Arb countries aren't too as well. Therefore there should be found an indenpendence Palestine. :)

Just because you have double standards, why should the rest of the world have to put up with it? It is either stealing or not. If there was no issue with the situation with displaced people when Jordan illegally controlled and stole the Palestinian's land in 1948, then there cannot be any issue with it 20 years later or 60 years later with regards to Israel.

It isnt double standerd because even palestanians wouldnt consider it as a stole. You seem not to understand. WE DONT BELIEVE IN NATIONALISM. we are one people and one country. I am as an emarati own palestine as palestanians own the UAE. U always put Arabs in the same basket right? so why would it be different in anyway now? Arabs are arabs whether he they were palestanians, iraqis, saudi, Qatari or what so ever.

The only one who will be called a theif is Israel which stole palestine in 1948.

It isnt double standerd because even palestanians wouldnt consider it as a stole. You seem not to understand. WE DONT BELIEVE IN NATIONALISM. we are one people and one country. I am as an emarati own palestine as palestanians own the UAE. U always put Arabs in the same basket right? so why would it be different in anyway now? Arabs are arabs whether he they were palestanians, iraqis, saudi, Qatari or what so ever.

The only one who will be called a theif is Israel which stole palestine in 1948.
Then it is a terrible thing that you keep your own people in poor refugee camps when they were made to be refugees by their own people who took their land away, even though that was OK to do since it was simply one brother taking (but not stealing!) from another brother. Yet, the refugee camps are actually located in their own country.

How absurd.

You should also go tell the people who call themselves Palestinians that they are really not Palestinians. And you should go tell the other Arab leaders that there are no Palestinians and that they need to sign a peace treaty with Israel, not the Palestinians.

You really cannot have it both ways.

my my what did I start here!? im sorry if you guys do not take the same position as me in regards to Zohar's awfull statement, but i would appreciate it if you would please stay within context of the original quotation instead of deliberately shifting focus away from Israeli discrimination.

You guys shouldnt take every comment posted by an arab as chance to start ranting on the flaws of our political history. I did not come here to have Israelis lecture me on Arab politics.....I would be an idiot if i did ;).

Again Jordan, Palestine, UAE or any arabic or islamic countries are the same.

Please, Exactly WHERE are you inviting yourself ?

my my what did I start here!? im sorry if you guys do not take the same position as me in regards to Zohar's awfull statement, but i would appreciate it if you would please stay within context of the original quotation instead of deliberately shifting focus away from Israeli discrimination.

You guys shouldnt take every comment posted by an arab as chance to start ranting on the flaws of our political history. I did not come here to have Israelis lecture me on Arab politics.....I would be an idiot if i did ;).
I have no personal interest in Arab political history except as it pertains to Israel. When Arab history gets in the way of Jews living in their land without aggression and attack by Arabs I have a problem with Arab history.

Skyline-BRN, you are the one who directly mentioned Jewish descrimination. Why?

Israel is the Jewish homeland. There is no reason that the Arabs do not let these other Arabs who no longer live in Israel move to the other Arab countries. According to smussuw, its all one big brotherhood of Arabs. One big country. Israel should not be responsible for taking them in.

Skyline-BRN, you are the one who directly mentioned Jewish descrimination. Why?
My reply to Zohar's comment was done to simply to bring bring attention to something he did not seem to be fully aware of. If you read properly then you would realise that it was an educated reply to a foolish comment. There was no need for you or chicago to step in and give lectures on Arab Politics and divert attention away from the issue of Israeli discrimination against Palestinians. Now if you wanted to discuss other issues then perhaps you could have done it outside the perceived "suggestions" of my comments.

Israel is the Jewish homeland.There is no reason that the Arabs do not let these other Arabs who no longer live in Israel move to the other Arab countries. According to smussuw, its all one big brotherhood of Arabs. One big country. Israel should not be responsible for taking them in.
Within the context of your beliefs you may be right. Unfortunately for you, not everyone in the words holds such beliefs :)

There was no need for you or chicago to step in and give lectures on Arab Politics and divert attention away from the issue of Israeli discrimination against Palestinians.
There was certainly need to respond to your statement. I do not need to divert attention to an issue that is only an issue when seen through the eyes of someone who wants deparately for Israel to just dissappear.

so you dont want to see palestinians around the world returning to the land of their roots?
I do not care about Arab politics. I am concerned about Jewish people returning to their roots. That includes the land. There is no need for Israel for "palestinians around the world" returning to Israel. They have other places to "return to". You and smussuw turned it into an Arab politcal issue, blaming the Arab corruption on everything, including the existence of Israel. My point is simply they have no standing with regards to returning to Israel.

Within the context of your beliefs you may be right. Unfortunately for you, not everyone in the words holds such beliefs :)
No, Israel is the Jewish homeland. It is only in the context of your beliefs that it my be otherwise. Fortunately, for everyone, you did not create the world.

I do not need to divert attention to an issue that is only an issue when seen through the eyes of someone who wants deparately for Israel to just dissappear.
Im sorry that you do not see the discrimination against palestinians as being an issue worthy of attention. Shame that one of todays most devasting humanitarian issues does not take your pitty. You have not only clarified your position within this conflict but you have also shown us the type of person you exactly are:(.

You and smussuw turned it into an Arab politcal issue, blaming the Arab corruption on everything, including the existence of Israel. My point is simply they have no standing with regards to returning to Israel.
Now you are blaming me for bringing in Arab Politics?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

No, Israel is the Jewish homeland. It is only in the context of your beliefs that it my be otherwise. Fortunately, for everyone, you did not create the world.
Not only are you blaming me for your statements but now you suggest that I stand alone in my beliefs?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Please make yourself more useful and quit the trash talk;)

Im sorry that you do not see the discrimination against palestinians as being an issue worthy of attention. Shame that one of todays most devasting humanitarian issues does not take your pitty. You have not only clarified your position within this conflict but you have also shown us the type of person you exactly are:(.
I must agree. everythingisone are condemning or escaping any bad fact about Israel, I doubt that he has any respect for palestinians at all :(

my my what did I start here!? im sorry if you guys do not take the same position as me in regards to Zohar's awfull statement, but i would appreciate it if you would please stay within context of the original quotation instead of deliberately shifting focus away from Israeli discrimination.

You guys shouldnt take every comment posted by an arab as chance to start ranting on the flaws of our political history. I did not come here to have Israelis lecture me on Arab politics.....I would be an idiot if i did ;).

Well that’s how people always react to provocations, there are many of those around here.
People come and throw their opinions that are often based on false facts and then quickly close the issue. I’m sorry but you can’t expect that we will leave those issues wide-open.
just a general comment.. peace

Im sorry that you do not see the discrimination against palestinians as being an issue worthy of attention. Shame that one of todays most devasting humanitarian issues does not take your pitty. You have not only clarified your position within this conflict but you have also shown us the type of person you exactly are:(.

Now you are blaming me for bringing in Arab Politics?

Not only are you blaming me for your statements but now you suggest that I stand alone in my beliefs?

Please make yourself more useful and quit the trash talk;)
You can twist around my words all you want. It doesn't change what I said. You try to hide behind pleasantries and pretend you are innocent of incitement. Had your interest have been a discussion regarding various conditions in Israel, you should have asked for a discussion. Rather, you started the thread with the absolute belief there is discrimination and problems with the treatment of Palestinians. You have an agenda. I will not let you get away with framing the discussion in a manner that presumes a perspective unproven and based on cultural bias. The most devastating issue in the region is that Israel has been unmercelssly attacked for 60 years. That is the shame of it all. The Arabs caused this situation. This situation directly impacts the local Arabs you call Palestinians. But the most devasting humanitarian issue is that Israel is still not able to reside with threat and attack.

So, couched in your question is the response that deals with the truth of the situation. If you call it Arab politics, then that is your phrase for it. I did not introduce it in this thread.

Unfortunately, you do not stand alone in your beliefs.

There are plenty of places on the internet for you to speak explictly about how you feel and what you believe. I will not let you come into this forum and play cat and mouse with your ideas in order to make your predisposed point.

And if you want to know the truth, I am "the type of person" who is concerned for all the people in the region. (Just as an aside, is anybody else concerned about the poor treatment these past 60 years of the Palestinians by their Arab brethren?) I do not see the attitude of your concern for all the people of the region here. I certainly do not need or seek validation from people who are bent on destroying my homeland, my people and who mistakingly attack my religion.

I must agree. everythingisone are condemning or escaping any bad fact about Israel, I doubt that he has any respect for palestinians at all :(
You will never be able to confirm your doubts because they are false.

But please, tell us all the good thoughts you have, or had, about Israel.

We really want to read 3 or 4 paragraphs regarding all the things you believe are good about Israel. You do not need to write a whole book on the subject. Just some well thought out paragraphs descibing the things you really respect and like about Israel.

Then if you are really open, please let us know how I caused your feelings to change so radically. After we read them, we can judge if I am the cause of your new found bad feelings about Israel.

Please, Exactly WHERE are you inviting yourself ?

It is called Islamic republic of Iran. Not persia u should rememeber that.

Am talking about The Islamic Iran not the persian one u are represting. People like u are sick with nationalism. I just hope not all Iranis are nationalisnt and racist like u.

We have many emarati persian and thank God they dont act like u. And they dont have an arabiophobia or an islamophobia like u do.

You can twist around my words all you want. It doesn't change what I said. You try to hide behind pleasantries and pretend you are innocent of incitement. Had your interest have been a discussion regarding various conditions in Israel, you should have asked for a discussion. Rather, you started the thread with the absolute belief there is discrimination and problems with the treatment of Palestinians. You have an agenda. I will not let you get away with framing the discussion in a manner that presumes a perspective unproven and based on cultural bias. The most devastating issue in the region is that Israel has been unmercelssly attacked for 60 years. That is the shame of it all. The Arabs caused this situation. This situation directly impacts the local Arabs you call Palestinians. But the most devasting humanitarian issue is that Israel is still not able to reside with threat and attack.

So, couched in your question is the response that deals with the truth of the situation. If you call it Arab politics, then that is your phrase for it. I did not introduce it in this thread.

Unfortunately, you do not stand alone in your beliefs.

There are plenty of places on the internet for you to speak explictly about how you feel and what you believe. I will not let you come into this forum and play cat and mouse with your ideas in order to make your predisposed point.

And if you want to know the truth, I am "the type of person" who is concerned for all the people in the region. (Just as an aside, is anybody else concerned about the poor treatment these past 60 years of the Palestinians by their Arab brethren?) I do not see the attitude of your concern for all the people of the region here. I certainly do not need or seek validation from people who are bent on destroying my homeland, my people and who mistakingly attack my religion.

Again a bisaed dicusson. Again u should see the whole picture. Arabs attacked for 60 years and will never stop because it is their land. REMEMBER. I see palestanians get killed in the past 60 years. I see palestanians being kicked out of their countries. I see palestanians who had their houses destroyed. I see million of trees which has been cut of by Israelil.

Europian had to say sorry zillion of times because of the holocost. I was pissed of because I saw Dubai-Lover(german) saying sorry. What did he say to say sorry to u?? While u didnt bother to say once about the palestanians. u kill them every single day and u never said sorry. Israel has never done anything wrong right?

The only one who will be called a theif is Israel which stole palestine in 1948.
First, how can Israel be called a thief, when they only took what was always theirs. Clearly there is no argument that Israel is the Jewish homeland, right?

Second, if you call Israel a thief, then aren't you arguing that the UN are thieves?

Again a bisaed dicusson. Again u should see the whole picture. Arabs attacked for 60 years and will never stop because it is their land. REMEMBER. I see palestanians get killed in the past 60 years. I see palestanians being kicked out of their countries. I see palestanians who had their houses destroyed. I see million of trees which has been cut of by Israelil.

Europian had to say sorry zillion of times because of the holocost. I was pissed of because I saw Dubai-Lover(german) saying sorry. What did he say to say sorry to u?? While u didnt bother to say once about the palestanians. u kill them every single day. Every Israeli citizen is a militant.
You must have been watching the fiction TV channel.

You are very amusing. You are stating here that you are committed to the destruction of Israel. At the same time you accuse me of having a biased discussion.

Where is your sense, man! Use your brain and stop posting some of the most idiotic posts possible. This is a serious thread. Don't ruin it with nonsense.

First, how can Israel be called a thief, when they only took what was always theirs. Clearly there is no argument that Israel is the Jewish homeland, right?

Second, if you call Israel a thief, then aren't you arguing that the UN are thieves?

lol... u come from no where kicking its people stealing the land but ur not considred as a theif? The holy land is meant for the muslims not the jews so plz stop the none sence. Beside as I posted earlier jews wasnt even interested in paletine at the time and didnt want to fight to get it.

The UN was represented by UK at that time. And yes UK is a theif. They wanted to get rid of the jews and they chose palestine. Rememeber that even zionisim discussed that if it didnt work in palestine they would move to some where else.

You must have been watching the fiction TV channel.

You are very amusing. You are stating here that you are committed to the destruction of Israel. At the same time you accuse me of having a biased discussion.

Where is your sense, man! Use your brain and stop posting some of the most idiotic posts possible. This is a serious thread. Don't ruin it with nonsense.

Yea am using my brian. U stole the land.... We will get it back .... simple isnt it.

lol... u come from no where kicking its people stealing the land but ur not considred as a theif? The holy land is meant for the muslims not the jews so plz stop the none sence. Beside as I posted earlier jews wasnt even interested in paletine at the time and didnt want to fight to get it.

The UN was represented by UK at that time. And yes UK is a theif. They wanted to get rid of the jews and they chose palestine. Rememeber that even zionisim discussed that if it didnt work in palestine they would move to some where else.
smussuw, I will give you the history lesson your teaches neglected.

Israel is the homeland for the Jewish people. The Jewish people were expelled forcefully for their homeland almost 2 thousand years ago. The desire to return to their homeland is at the very center of daily Jewish life and has been for the past two thousand years. All of these things are not up for discussion.

If you or your teachers chose to make up other ideas and call them truth, you are welcome to do so. But the thing is, you will never be able to convince the people who already know the truth that your new ideas are correct and the original ideas are incorrect. Rather, you can just continue fooling yourselves.

Yea am using my brian. U stole the land.... We will get it back .... simple isnt it.
Now that we see clearly who and what you are, it is best if you stop antagonizing people on this forum.

Good luck living with yourself.

smussuw, I will give you the history lessen your teaches neglected.

Israel is the homeland for the Jewish people. The Jewish people were expelled forcefully for their homeland almost 2 thousand years ago. The desire to return to their homeland is at the very center of daily Jewish life and has been for the past two thousand years. All of these things are not up for discussion.

If you or your teachers chose to make up other ideas and call them truth, you are welcome to do so. But the thing is, you will never be able to convince the people who already knoew the truth that your new ideas are correct and the original ideas are incorrect. Rather, you can just continue fooling yourselves.

So u have the right to have this land because u lived in it for less than 100 year right? We ruled the place for 1400 years. It is ours. Even canan people were living before the jews. Ur NOT the first whom setteled in palestinel.

Regarding the beliefs. We have the same thought as u do. We think that the holy land is meant for the muslims. and u think it is meant for the jews. But still that doesnt give u the right to say it is urs just because u say so.

I dont know what does that have to do with my teacher. Apperantly ur not worth discussing with. Israel is never wrong I guess.

Now that we see clearly who and what you are, it is best if you stop antagonizing people on this forum.

Good luck living with yourself.

I am sure that there is more than a BILLION citizen on my back having the same thought. So am represting more than u do.

Regarding the beliefs. We have the same thought as u do.

No you do not. We know Israel is our homeland.

We think that the holy land is meant for the muslims.
We cannot help that you think that. This is not a thread discussing the theological incongruities of Islam. As I have said, you are welcome to believe what you want. But we are not even going to allow for a comparison of Islam to Torah. You can open another thread in another forum where the people are well versed in Islam. That is where the theological incongruities of Isalm can be discussed.

and u think it is meant for the jews. But still that doesnt give u the right to say it is urs just because u say so.
You are correct. It is the Jewish homeland because it was given to Avrohom, Yitchak and Yaakov. I don't claim Israel is the Jewish homeland just because I say so. I would never do or say such a thing.

If u read carefully I am talking about the millions nowadays. :sleepy: Scotty they didnt mind having another place to live in. The other alternatives were either bahrian or Kenya.

The other thing about Jordan stolen palestanians's both ara arab Islamic countries so it wouldnt be a problem. We are so keen on union so why would we complain.

Tell me how many of ur grand fathers were born in Israel? none?
Wait a minute you ask me a question, and then you answer it for me!?
How do you know my background...you don't. so that shows how foolish you are...the truth comes out quickerthan you think.

Of cours most of the arab government were guilty at that time. Because they didnt fight well and they were (and still) corrupted. If we didnt have those spoiled government u wouldnt have heard of an entity called Israel.
Israel is an 'entity' but it represents a people who have a name for their ancient home land unlike your forged 'state' If it was not for Britain's, and later Americans mid-east oil policy, you would be with out a state... just Bedouins.

smuss, well whatever you do.. try to avoid hate. Living life without it is much healthier.

Yea am using my brian. U stole the land.... We will get it back .... simple isnt it.
I am sure that there is more than a BILLION citizen on my back having the same thought. So am represting more than u do.
You sound quite maniacal.

... Again u should see the whole picture. Arabs attacked for 60 years and will never stop because it is their land. REMEMBER. I see palestanians get killed in the past 60 years. I see palestanians being kicked out of their countries. I see palestanians who had their houses destroyed. I see million of trees which has been cut of by Israelil.

Europian had to say sorry zillion of times because of the holocost. I was pissed of because I saw Dubai-Lover(german) saying sorry. What did he say to say sorry to u?? While u didnt bother to say once about the palestanians. u kill them every single day and u never said sorry. Israel has never done anything wrong right?

smu your hatred leeches out even when I assume you do not mean for it to do so. By your stamtent above (my emphasis added) the attacks and killing by arabs of israelis will never stop.

Does anyone reading this thread now understand (who did not before) why the barrier is necessary? Israel is surrounded by those who are hell bent on its destruction. smu, no matter how plastic coated some of your words may be it will always boil down to the arabs (i guess i should not refer to the various arab countries because they are all one?) anyway, the arabs need to recognise that israel has a right to exist and without the threat of constant terror.

Israel is not without blame in some circumstances. Unlikke you and your ilk, I do not believe that Israel ios at the heart of every ill befallen the Palesitnians and the entire Middle East. It is very sad that innocent people die every day in Israel, wether they be Israeli or Palestinian.

Was it you who referred to there being no borders amongs arab nations? if that is the case then why have the arabs all over the middle east sat on the side lines (except when giving money to suicide bombers and their families) watching the palestinians live the way they have for the past many decades, allowing arafat and others to use and abuse them and sock millions away in overseas accounts? Why have they (the arab brethren) not brought them (the palestinians) under their wings and cared for them like brothers do? Is it because they have been a wonderful pawn in the poltical arena all this time? It saddens and sickens me; the twisted double speak I hear from the likes of you. Bleeding with pity for your arab brethren and yet YOU allow their misery to continue.

The fact remains that Israel WAS created. Your desire to destroy it does not mean it has no right to be. Your desire to destroy it does not mean its people have no right to live in peace.

SMU and Skyline, why do you continue to come to the Israeli forum? I reckon its only to antagonise and rile up the Israelis and their supporters. Why not just stay away since its apparent you dislike us so much. Actually, I beg of you, stay away and leave us in peace.

Lastly.....SMU and Skyline, peace be with you.

smu your hatred leeches out even when I assume you do not mean for it to do so. By your stamtent above (my emphasis added) the attacks and killing by arabs of israelis will never stop.

Does anyone reading this thread now understand (who did not before) why the barrier is necessary? Israel is surrounded by those who are hell bent on its destruction. smu, no matter how plastic coated some of your words may be it will always boil down to the arabs (i guess i should not refer to the various arab countries because they are all one?) anyway, the arabs need to recognise that israel has a right to exist and without the threat of constant terror.

Israel is not without blame in some circumstances. Unlikke you and your ilk, I do not believe that Israel ios at the heart of every ill befallen the Palesitnians and the entire Middle East. It is very sad that innocent people die every day in Israel, wether they be Israeli or Palestinian.

Was it you who referred to there being no borders amongs arab nations? if that is the case then why have the arabs all over the middle east sat on the side lines (except when giving money to suicide bombers and their families) watching the palestinians live the way they have for the past many decades, allowing arafat and others to use and abuse them and sock millions away in overseas accounts? Why have they (the arab brethren) not brought them (the palestinians) under their wings and cared for them like brothers do? Is it because they have been a wonderful pawn in the poltical arena all this time? It saddens and sickens me; the twisted double speak I hear from the likes of you. Bleeding with pity for your arab brethren and yet YOU allow their misery to continue.

The fact remains that Israel WAS created. Your desire to destroy it does not mean it has no right to be. Your desire to destroy it does not mean its people have no right to live in peace.

SMU and Skyline, why do you continue to come to the Israeli forum? I reckon its only to antagonise and rile up the Israelis and their supporters. Why not just stay away since its apparent you dislike us so much. Actually, I beg of you, stay away and leave us in peace.

Lastly.....SMU and Skyline, peace be with you.
You know it really annoys me when people who have nothing to do with arabs or israeli's intervene as if they know both sides so well as to make a fair judgement. Our views on the situation may sicken your Misinformed and Brainwashed mind, but your lack of respect for the palestinian humanitarian crisis will sicken millions more. It is obvious you are another anti-arab, anti-islamic prick so i am not surprised that you take your "facts" straight from other users such as everythingisone. If you wanna learn about the truth then I suggest you start some place outside Israeli forums. But given your general feelings towards arabs I doubt you will even consider it. The "destruction" of Israel is such a bland term used to surpass and justify the humanitarian crisis of the Palestinians. Although I wouldnt be surprised if you view the human suffering of a "minority" as valid compensation for wider security. You come here making such comments and still act like you have peace and harmony in your best interests. Dont even bother marla as you will not be taken seriously over something you obviously know so little about.

The fact remains that Israel WAS created. Your desire to destroy it does not mean it has no right to be. Your desire to destroy it does not mean its people have no right to live in peace.
Even the fact that Israel is still there means that the region will never live in peace. So simple u can live in palestine with an Islamic rule.


we will not act blind when some other Israeli forumer talk on how are palestanians are terrorist. Or when some one say that the Israeli arabs can bend in the beachest why other arabs cant. Or in other times when they say that Iran is a big threat.

You know it really annoys me when people who have nothing to do with arabs or israeli's intervene as if they know both sides so well as to make a fair judgement. Our views on the situation may sicken your Misinformed and Brainwashed mind, but your lack of respect for the palestinian humanitarian crisis will sicken millions more. It is obvious you are another anti-arab, anti-islamic prick so i am not surprised that you take your "facts" straight from other users such as everythingisone. If you wanna learn about the truth then I suggest you start some place outside Israeli forums. But given your general feelings towards arabs I doubt you will even consider it. The "destruction" of Israel is such a bland term used to surpass and justify the humanitarian crisis of the Palestinians. Although I wouldnt be surprised if you view the human suffering of a "minority" as valid compensation for wider security. You come here making such comments and still act like you have peace and harmony in your best interests. Dont even bother marla as you will not be taken seriously over something obviously know so little about.

Ah, because I do not agree with your proscribed views I am "misinformed and brainwashed"? You assume I have nothing to do with arabs or israelis. considering you do not know me and thus do not knnow my background you make a HUGE assumption. Do you know what they say about people who ASS-U-me?

I do not take my facts from others forumers. I am a 40+ year old woman who is well read and well informed. You claim I "know so little". Unlike you I DO recognise that there has been suffering on BOTH sides. Unlike you however I DO NOT blame Israel for all the ills of the palestinians nor for all the ills of the middle east. Furhtermore, I do not have any "general" feelings towards arabs. That would be a biased stance to take. I prefer to see individuals as individuals. HOwever, the general comments I made earlier I stand by. If you can refute them so be it. If you can prove to me that the arab world (in general) has taken in the palesitnians and treated them as brothers I have an open mind and open ears. And assistance does NOT include giving money to terrorists and their families.

DO NOT lecture me. DO NOT tell me I have little knolwedge of facts. If you have something constructive AND inoffensive to offer so be it. otherwise, why not leave us here in peace?

one question when you say "us" does that mean you are jewish or israeli?

one question when you say "us" does that mean you are jewish or israeli?
"us" being those of US who have had peaceful exchanges? There are many on this site who are neither jewish nor israeli and who are able to have discussions without constantly being on the attack.

Ah, because I do not agree with your proscribed views I am "misinformed and brainwashed"? You assume I have nothing to do with arabs or israelis. considering you do not know me and thus do not knnow my background you make a HUGE assumption. Do you know what they say about people who ASS-U-me?

I do not take my facts from others forumers. I am a 40+ year old woman who is well read and well informed. You claim I "know so little". Unlike you I DO recognise that there has been suffering on BOTH sides. Unlike you however I DO NOT blame Israel for all the ills of the palestinians nor for all the ills of the middle east. Furhtermore, I do not have any "general" feelings towards arabs. That would be a biased stance to take. I prefer to see individuals as individuals. HOwever, the general comments I made earlier I stand by. If you can refute them so be it. If you can prove to me that the arab world (in general) has taken in the palesitnians and treated them as brothers I have an open mind and open ears. And assistance does NOT include giving money to terrorists and their families.

DO NOT lecture me. DO NOT tell me I have little knolwedge of facts. If you have something constructive AND inoffensive to offer so be it. otherwise, why not leave us here in peace?
1)This thread is specifically about the discrimination towards palestinians within israel. So do not be surprised if there is particular focus on palestinian suffering instead of israeli. And dont assume that I do not recognize the suffering from both sides.

2a) You blame other Arab states for the fate of the Palestinian suffering today when infact they live within Israeli "borders" and control. I dont get your logic there. If you believe in the rights of Israel as a sovereign state then surely you must realize its resposibility for the people that live within its borders?

Bleeding with pity for your arab brethren and yet YOU allow their misery to continue.

2b) I do not work for nor do I represent any Arab Government, and I doubt that SMUSSUW does aswell (but I may be wrong). So do not accuse me of making accusations when you yourself seem to generalize as you please. And to you say you preffer to "see indivuals as individuals"...hehe...who do you think you are kidding here?

3) You bring focus of the "destruction of Israel" as if the other side does not share a simmilar desire. You see the difference between us arabs and the israelis is that they do not exist in the numbers we do today, so keeping international relations is a key priority for them in todays globalized world. Therefore their desire for the "destruction of palestine" will never be reflected as much. Infact some 'legitimate' Israeli political parties like the Ichud Leumi (The National Union) fully oppose the creation of a Palestinian state and call for the transfer of palestinians out of Israel into outside Arab countries. How nice.

So im terribly sorry Martha but I too still stand by my comments. And for the sake of honesty I regret to say that you still reflect terrible bias against Arabs. You see if you were the least bit open minded then you would realise that I as an arab or everythingisone as a jew are only standing up for the respect of our identities. So if you would not like to be labelled biased or anti-islamic/arab then maybe you should pay critical attention to the comments made by some israeli members istead of thriving to prove us wrong.

well, try to convince the arabs...the israelis have sought peace for 50 years with them!
Thank you Alfred !

You bring focus of the "destruction of Israel" as if the other side does not share a simmilar desire. You see the difference between us arabs and the israelis is that they do not exist in the numbers we do today, so keeping international relations is a key priority for them in todays globalized world. Therefore their desire for the "destruction of palestine" will never be reflected as much.
You have this profound need to project your personal, and according to you, your culturally-collective, sickness on others and hope that they too reel in the depths of hatred and racism like you do.

It is your sickness, Skyline-BRN. Not ours. You are the one who seek destruction of others. Not us.

Your propaganda is so shallow. It is illogical to the sane population of the world.

You have this profound need to project your personal, and according to you, your culturally-collective, sickness on others and hope that they too reel in the depths of hatred and racism like you do.

It is your sickness, Skyline-BRN. Not ours. You are the one who seek destruction of others. Not us.

Your propaganda is so shallow. It is illogical to the sane population of the world.
Why Good Morning to you too everythingisone!! How nice it is to wake up to the sweet sound of your words of wisdom!! Thank you for your brief lesson in psychotherapy but you once again leave me in a position where I can twist around your words and say that you are only speaking for your self ;). Dont take things too personally and have a nice day:)

It is called Islamic republic of Iran. Not persia u should rememeber that.

Am talking about The Islamic Iran not the persian one u are represting. People like u are sick with nationalism. I just hope not all Iranis are nationalisnt and racist like u.

We have many emarati persian and thank God they dont act like u. And they dont have an arabiophobia or an islamophobia like u do.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Exactly it's called Iran, Iran for IRANIANS (It's Iranians not iranis), be they Persian, Kurd, Azari or other.

We still remember how that pathetic excuse for a president of yours,
went to Iraq and fired the first missile headed for IRAN.

And i have neither Islamophobia or Arabophobia, Im a muslims and me not liking you doesnt mean i have anything against arabs, you are not all arabs.

SMUSSUW and Freedom please stop this!! I cant believe you are taking this out inside an Israeli forum!!! This is exactly why the muslim world is slowly crumbling in the eyes of the world!! Islam preaches the importance of unity and you guys disregard that infront of an Israeli forum! How is this helping our already tarnished image?! Wether you accept it or not the Jews have a much greater sense of unity then us and until we learn how to grow up and stop these fights they will never respect us for who we are!! Now cut the crap and grow up both of you!

SMUSSUW and Freedom please stop this!! I cant believe you are taking this out inside an Israeli forum!!! This is exactly why the muslim world is slowly crumbling in the eyes of the world!! Islam preaches the importance of unity and you guys disregard that infront of an Israeli forum! How is this helping our already tarnished image?! Wether you accept it or not the Jews have a much greater sense of unity then us and until we learn how to grow up and stop these fights they will never respect us for who we are!! Now cut the crap and grow up both of you!

LoL... u should see why do some forumers (muslims) have problems with the arabs. In some other thread where some Israeli forumers sayed that they are gonna chose some Israeli arab and Fredom asked them whether they chose him just because he is an arab. Can I know what does that suppose to mean? He and many other muslim forumers are full of nationalism.

i have a comment to make Alfred said:
well, try to convince the arabs...the israelis have sought peace for 50 years with them!

GOD!!! okay then ill accept israel but ill do it the israeli way! ill go conquer america, and israel name them Anania and will ask for peace :D and call all your resistance terrorist :D

okay i see this fair!

LoL... u should see why do some forumers (muslims) have problems with the arabs. In some other thread where some Israeli forumers sayed that they are gonna chose some Israeli arab and Fredom asked them whether they chose him just because he is an arab. Can I know what does that suppose to mean? He and many other muslim forumers are full of nationalism.

Skyline not all people who say they are muslims are muslims Smussuw is right

and by the way for those who dont know there is a hadeeth citing... muhammad*SAWS* said if anyone hates arabs or curses on arabs he curses me(muhammad*SAWS*) aswell because IM! arab.

All of you shut up.

Your noise is leaking out into the general Middle East forums. I have a headache now.

LoL... u should see why do some forumers (muslims) have problems with the arabs. In some other thread where some Israeli forumers sayed that they are gonna chose some Israeli arab and Fredom asked them whether they chose him just because he is an arab. Can I know what does that suppose to mean?


Im just going to quote from the thread:

yessh it's true!
Slovenian singer is arab:)
u will vote for him?
i will....

Why, cause his arab? :ohno:

Or is he good?

This was from the Eurovision 2005 thread and had nothing to do with Israeli arabs.

You just made a total ass of yourself

Maybe you should stop being so full of hate and pay more attention to what you read.


He and many other muslim forumers are full of nationalism.

Obviously this is really hard for you to accept.

Skyline not all people who say they are muslims are muslims Smussuw is right.
Anas your comments are not right im sorry. Here is a translated verse from the Quran I want you to consider...

From Surah 49 Al Hujurat

49:10
The Believers are but
A single Brotherhood
So make peace and
Reconciliation between your
Two (contending) brothers;
And fear Allah, that ye
May recieve Mercy.

Think about these words please...

Im just going to quote from the thread:





This was from the Eurovision 2005 thread and had nothing to do with Israeli arabs.

You just made a total ass of yourself

Maybe you should stop being so full of hate and pay more attention to what you read.




Obviously this is really hard for you to accept.

Yea that is what I was refering dont u think that ur post means something. U already said that this is a eurovision why do u stick the issue being an arab or not in the thread? Huuuuuuuuuuuh?

Are u tying to change the subject by saying that am full of hate? give me a break.

The israel people did the same thing as the english army to ireland although they gave half of ireland back why dont the israelies do something similar to ease tension instead of edging closer and closer to the palestinians homes?

Yea that is what I was refering dont u think that ur post means something. U already said that this is a eurovision why do u stick the issue being an arab or not in the thread? Huuuuuuuuuuuh?




Alrighty, Obviously you are slow, so im gonna highlight the important parts this time:


yessh it's true!
Slovenian singer is arab:)
u will vote for him?
i will....


Why, cause his arab? :ohno:

Or is he good?

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Are u tying to change the subject by saying that am full of hate? give me a break.

No im not trying to change the subject, you are full of hate and it's hard not to notice.

Actually am already fimilar with this but still it doesnt show anything. He was an arab but ur post was annoying and any arab can notice ur stupid response.

So freedom is an Irani living in an arab country sorta like Raza?

So freedom is an Irani living in an arab country sorta like Raza?

I think Raza lied to u when he said he is an Irani I think he is pakistani.

Actually am already fimilar with this but still it doesnt show anything. He was an arab but ur post was annoying and any arab can notice ur stupid response.

Oh get over yourself.

Anas your comments are not right im sorry. Here is a translated verse from the Quran I want you to consider...

From Surah 49 Al Hujurat

49:10
The Believers are but
A single Brotherhood
So make peace and
Reconciliation between your
Two (contending) brothers;
And fear Allah, that ye
May recieve Mercy.

Think about these words please...
Well Jesus said love your enemy, but how much christians follow that? not much. People are following its interests instead.

Well Jesus said love your enemy, but how much christians follow that? not much. People are following its interests instead.
Yes it is a truly messed up world we live in. That's why I someday plan to go to NASA and book the next flight to the moon! Now who's coming with me? :D

this thread is definitely going nowhere

the issue being discussed here probably will never see an end :(