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Monkey May 8th, 2005, 04:59 PM Discuss this week's topic here. :)
But please note - if you post too many images, I will delete them all. Try to have some consideration for people with slower Internet connections and/or slower computers, otherwise the thread becomes unreadable.
Monkey May 8th, 2005, 10:27 PM This is going to be very, very close between NY and HK I think...
spyguy May 8th, 2005, 10:33 PM Let's make some bets:
The poll choices will be HK, NYC, and Chi
Then it'll end up:
New York-45%
Hong Kong-35%
Chicago-20%
Jo May 10th, 2005, 02:21 AM Template for voting or nominating in general. Useable, just cut and paste
1. My skyline
2. Best skyline
3. 2nd best skyline
edit: not a comment to the post above :)
Marcanadian May 11th, 2005, 01:58 AM I hope hk wins this one. ny is still awesome though. I dunno its gonna be close.
Cliff May 11th, 2005, 04:22 AM Why discuss something that has been discussed so many times before?
Lets use something like best skyline outside USA and China.:)
Bitxofo May 11th, 2005, 05:58 AM Why discuss something that has been discussed so many times before?
Lets use something like best skyline outside USA and China.:)
Good idea!
I agree with you.
;)
Küsel May 11th, 2005, 09:33 AM New York and Hong Kong - everything else far off if you like skyscraper skylines :)
As a highrise sea: Sao Paulo
neilio May 11th, 2005, 05:19 PM i honestly think toronto is one of the best and soon to be the best, its not height, mass or over all quantity of skyscrapers that do it for me, the skyline has to have a distinctive shape and look to it and i think Toronto's is amazing looking, it looks planned the way it is laid out and isnt as random as NewYork or sydney, and yes i am an artist so i see things differently then allot of other people.
Anymodal May 15th, 2005, 10:25 PM i never can decide between NY and HK
Bombay Boy May 29th, 2005, 09:23 PM hk quite easily. in a much more striking setting as well
pablofarrugia June 19th, 2005, 02:51 AM i think an underdog should win this. ie Toronto
NY beats HK because it has the classical alure of a skyline. With a blend of old and new skyscrapers into one. HK is modern, and its buildings looks similar to a majority of the buildings around the world
Butcher June 19th, 2005, 03:14 AM I think that Hong Kong is going to win this over NYC by a small margin. Personally, I like both about the same.
Siopao June 25th, 2005, 12:01 AM Hong Kong is the best in the world.. NO DOUBT ;) NY is ok but then its getting old, no offense to the fellow New Yorkers :)
Siopao June 25th, 2005, 12:04 AM i honestly think toronto is one of the best and soon to be the best, its not height, mass or over all quantity of skyscrapers that do it for me, the skyline has to have a distinctive shape and look to it and i think Toronto's is amazing looking, it looks planned the way it is laid out and isnt as random as NewYork or sydney, and yes i am an artist so i see things differently then allot of other people.
I agree .. but HK still the best :yes:
ironchapman June 25th, 2005, 12:09 AM I prefer Chicago because of some of its buildings and the way it looks when seen from Lake Michigan.
Desven June 25th, 2005, 01:28 PM NYC is the best i think!
xXPimpinPunjabiXx June 25th, 2005, 03:45 PM NYC's skyline is old...but unlike HK, it has old skyscarpers and new glass beauties too..whereas HK has same kinda of skyscarpers....either the tall white appartment buildings or a tall glass building....new york has a variety and has every kind of skyscarper....so yeah...NYC RULES ! :) HK is still nice tho
redstone June 30th, 2005, 10:22 AM I honestly think NY's skyline is pretty much a majority of brown skyscrapers of roughly the same shape.....
chris9 July 1st, 2005, 02:08 AM I honestly think NY's skyline is pretty much a majority of brown skyscrapers of roughly the same shape.....
Well, wrong! Think again.
Effer July 1st, 2005, 02:26 AM Hong Kong by a MILE!!!
Skybean July 1st, 2005, 02:32 AM Well polling has already long been finished with this one.
You all know who I voted for :yes:
http://img262.exs.cx/img262/7868/c33214720604270611178784874541.jpg
wallh July 16th, 2005, 09:01 PM obviously, HONG KONG!!!
Taufiq July 17th, 2005, 12:38 AM New York New York
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=152847
Azn_chi_boi July 17th, 2005, 08:02 PM My opinion
NYC- only if the old WTC was still there.
Chicago- mixture of new and old, buildings only line along the lakefront and downtown area, 3 years later 2 new 1000+ footers will be there, drastically changing the skyline.
Hong Kong- besides the residental area, Hong Kong is great. Bank of Hk is a great building.
Well, personally my favorite is still Chicago, not because I live there, but there is a mixture of old and new buildings.Sure, so do Hk and NYC. I adore Chicago's park system in the front of the skyline. The only thing missing is there are NO mountains.
aranetacoliseum July 19th, 2005, 04:24 PM HONGKONG FOR ME!!!!!
"METROMANILA":
--> one of the best skyline and very best in the future bec. of the new U/C CBD'S "BAYCITY" (manila's answer to manhattan skyline) and U/C "GLOBALCITY CBD" to be far advance in all CBD in manila!!
*current metromanila's pics!*
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/fighter24/ortigas-sunset-panorama.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/fighter24/makati01.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/fighter24/makati.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/fighter24/001manilaskylinehehe2.jpghttp://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/fighter24/018manilaskyline.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/fighter24/muntinlupa1.jpghttp://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/fighter24/031manilaskyline.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/fighter24/renaissance_small.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/fighter24/fb89d034.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/fighter24/f5291aa8.jpghttp://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/fighter24/f5291a71.jpg
aranetacoliseum July 23rd, 2005, 03:30 PM http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/fighter24/day1.jpg
MANILA!!!
jimbojoe45 July 26th, 2005, 05:41 PM Chicago easily. It's not about shear number its about how it all comes together as a "skyline" Chicago is amazing with its triple peaks, Grant Park, Lake Michigan and multiple supertalls. From multiple angles the Chicago Skyline is the best
in'sauga July 26th, 2005, 08:34 PM HONG KONG takes it easily........not exactly the worlds most beautiful city but definitely without doubt has the worlds greatest skyline.
chris9 July 26th, 2005, 10:24 PM HONG KONG takes it easily
Chicago easily
Well, you're both wrong. New York City is the greatest city of the World in terms of skyline and everything else ;)
jimbojoe45 July 26th, 2005, 10:41 PM Chris9 your right New York is the Greatest city in the world in everything... HAHA ... you can only wish that, that was even near being the truth ... HA
Manila-X July 28th, 2005, 09:29 AM It's either Hong Kong or New York for world's best skyline. Hong Kong has more high-rises and a greater concentration but New York's is still legendary.
DARKNIGHT July 28th, 2005, 09:06 PM Hong Kong
redstone August 1st, 2005, 11:39 AM Best skyline in (a continent) would end all these arguements.. :)
Best Asian Skyline
Best North American Skyline....
TheJanitor August 1st, 2005, 09:44 PM I've been lurking around with amazement in this forum for a while, but this thread really get me going. Look I live in Manhattan, New York and I love New York, in my opinion it is still the greatest city to live in the entire world in overall categories.
But look, if you're talking about the greatest skyline in the world, that title has to go to HONG KONG, everytime I go to Hongkong, whether looking at Hong Kong island from Kowloon or staring at the night time skyline from peak, I was always in awe... it's magnificent, beautiful, amazing, splendid and awesome.
New York definitely has more history, and but it looks very dirty, some buildings are just so ugly to look at, between 60th St to 34th St and downtown are where Manhattan holds its ground, but between 34th St to Tribecca, New York looks really ugly and old, very industrial and like a slump, I always had this thought when looking at Manhattan from Queens or Jersey City. It's very dirty and ugly looking, not to mention in Northern Manhattan which is a slump. The view looks better at night is better though, still no comparison to the mighty HK.
Well, New York has passed its glory, you might argue it's got so many legendary building, but then again, HK is a younger city, and it does look more magnificent in my eyes, eventhough I live in NYC.
Hong Kong wins by a mile.
londonindyboy August 2nd, 2005, 01:22 AM Hong Kong and Shanghai
aranetacoliseum August 2nd, 2005, 03:45 PM METROMANILA
ORTIGAS CBD,METROMANILA
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/aranetacoliseum/ortigas_smog.jpg
MAKATICBD,COLOR=DarkRed]METROMANILA[/COLOR]
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/aranetacoliseum/441makatipanorama1-med.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/aranetacoliseum/fdc26e39.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/aranetacoliseum/441makatisunset.jpg
MANILACITY,METROMANILA
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/aranetacoliseum/harborview_0043.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/aranetacoliseum/manila_1937.jpg
movcn August 24th, 2005, 01:30 PM ... New York's is still legendary.
I totally have to agree with that
ChicagoSkyline August 27th, 2005, 08:23 AM :) The world's best skyline is..............just JUST SAY MY NAME!LOL
New York Yankee August 27th, 2005, 09:15 PM New York, Hong Kong
New York Yankee August 27th, 2005, 09:16 PM and Chicago....
BRISBANE September 24th, 2005, 04:18 AM hong kong
dubaiflo November 3rd, 2005, 12:46 AM HK .. no chance for NY imo.
weill November 5th, 2005, 03:02 AM NY
Mr.Skyscraper November 5th, 2005, 05:25 AM Chicago all the way baby!!!!!! Lake Michigan, the Sears, John Hancock, the Trump, and possibly the Fordham...its simply the best!
1.) chicago
2.) hong kong
3.) toronto
۩SkyScraper۩ November 10th, 2005, 03:54 AM Hong Kong...............................................NY...............METROMANILA........Toronto
LeCom November 10th, 2005, 04:06 AM New York
Faz90 November 10th, 2005, 04:09 AM New York City!!!
Metroland November 10th, 2005, 06:05 AM Most likely HK.
Blue_Sky November 10th, 2005, 10:29 AM HK
NY
Chicago
sharpie20 November 12th, 2005, 12:23 AM hong kong
XxRyoChanxX November 12th, 2005, 06:18 AM hong kong
ncon November 12th, 2005, 06:27 AM HK
NYC
SH
Nerima# November 12th, 2005, 06:45 AM NYC's skyline is old...but unlike HK, it has old skyscarpers and new glass beauties too.
I agree with this comment.
New York City’s buildings are old, looks crummy, brownish and grayish.
I prefer Chicago skyline to New York City one, so this is how my list came out.
:)
1 HongKong
2 Chicago
3 Singapore
4 NewYorkCity
luv2bebrown November 12th, 2005, 06:50 AM HK
Chicago
Singapore
i_am_hydrogen November 12th, 2005, 11:08 AM New York
swerveut November 12th, 2005, 12:25 PM HK by a mile, then Chicago, then NY.
Siopao November 12th, 2005, 05:56 PM HONG KONG!
SINGAPORE
NEw YORK
allan_dude November 12th, 2005, 08:14 PM 1. HK
2. NY
3. Chicago
_________________
In Order
SGoico November 12th, 2005, 09:25 PM Same as above,
HK
NYC
Chicago
Liwwadden November 12th, 2005, 11:06 PM for me no discussion , it just ís New York!
Manila-X November 15th, 2005, 04:51 AM No discussion either, it's Hong Kong :) New York is no.2!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a41/hkwanch/hk%20reference/hkskyline.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a41/hkwanch/hk%20reference/hk1.jpg
Goku November 16th, 2005, 05:52 AM Top 3 list:
1. NYC
2. HK
3. Chicago or Toronto
Skybean November 16th, 2005, 06:24 AM 1. Hong Kong
1.5 TORONTO
2. New York
3. Chicago / Shanghai
CrazyCanuck November 16th, 2005, 06:52 AM 1.HK
2.NY
3.Shanghai
4.Chicago
5 Toronto
aranetacoliseum November 16th, 2005, 07:19 AM 1.NEW YORK
2.HONGKONG
3.CHICAGO
4.SYDNEY
5.SHANGHAI
6.TOKYO
7.SEOUL
8.MANILA
9.SEATTLE
10.TORONTO
Skybean November 16th, 2005, 08:07 AM Alright I've modified my list to factor in the element of bias. It's fair now.
BinALAin November 16th, 2005, 09:06 AM Hong Kong is the best in the world
dom November 26th, 2005, 05:37 PM I think Tokyo's skyline is one of the most underrated. I'm not saying its better than New York, Chicago or Hong Kongs but that it isn't that far behind, and, from certain angles is a match for them.
The Nishi-Shinjuku skyline with Mount Fuji behind it at sunset is simply awesome. This photo is taken from the Bunkyo Civic Centre.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/dominiccherry1/ShinjukuMastershot2.jpg
Here is an entirely different skyline view, looking over the Sumida-Gawa river. The way the red aircraft lights which switch on and off in an unsynchonised way really epitomise the city.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/dominiccherry1/SumidigawaRivernight.jpg
This photo is from the Tokyo Metropolitan Government Building and shows the scale and density of the Tokyo skyline.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/dominiccherry1/TokyoPanorama.jpg
wjfox November 26th, 2005, 05:52 PM I think Tokyo's skyline is one of the most underrated. I'm not saying its better than New York, Chicago or Hong Kongs but that it isn't that far behind, and, from certain angles is a match for them.
I agree! :)
probe November 26th, 2005, 06:46 PM tokyo's skyline is gud but its colorless i think!
hongkong is very nice "symphony of lights"
but i still choose NEWYORK!
tejada November 26th, 2005, 07:55 PM 1.) Hong kong
2.) New York
3.) Panamá City
ch1le November 26th, 2005, 08:41 PM Hong Kong
New York
Chicago
someothers.
Manila-X November 29th, 2005, 05:46 AM tokyo's skyline is gud but its colorless i think!
hongkong is very nice "symphony of lights"
but i still choose NEWYORK!
Tokyo's skyline is ok though I find most of it's skyscrapers too uniform and lack the variety that Hong Kong and New York have.
Tokyo though lack some supertalls.
aranetacoliseum December 22nd, 2005, 09:24 AM 1.newyork
2.hongkong
3.chicago
4.shanghai
5.sydney
6.tokyo
7.toronto
8.bangkok
9.manila
10.kuala lumpur
Manila-X December 22nd, 2005, 09:41 AM I still think Hong Kong has the best skyline in the world! New York's skyline is impressive as well but they're status as skyscraper capital is history!
globill December 28th, 2005, 04:04 PM Chicago, followed by Hong Kong and then New York.
NY without the WTC on the south, looks lumpy and undefined. After they rebuidl something, maybe it will improve. But now, it's like Mona Lisa with her smile erased.
Chicago has the peaks and valleys, which no other city can match. A true man-made mountain range set against a great lake and the never-ending midwestern sky.
globill December 28th, 2005, 04:05 PM other honorable mentions should include Shanghai, Seoul, Tokyo, and Pittsburgh, for its incredibly beautiful setting.
Manila-X December 29th, 2005, 04:52 AM Chicago has an impressive skyline but lacks the density that both Hong Kong and New York have! I still put Chicago as no.3 :)
spyguy December 29th, 2005, 05:20 AM Density doesn't necessarily make a skyline the best. It's a combination of density, various styles, and placement that make a good skyline, and in this regard I think that Chicago easily beats most.
Manila-X December 29th, 2005, 05:29 AM Density doesn't necessarily make a skyline the best. It's a combination of density, various styles, and placement that make a good skyline, and in this regard I think that Chicago easily beats most.
True but I still think density is still an important factor :)
But if I happen to compare Chicago's skyline with Sao Paulo, I'll still go with Chicago's skyline! Sao Paulo may have a greater skyline density than Chicago but it city lack the height and definitely, quality!
Hong Kong on the other hand has density, not just density but quality and height as well. HK's skyline is placed well and it's geographic location makes it nice!
I still think HK deserves the title for world's best skyline :)
aranetacoliseum December 29th, 2005, 04:36 PM 1.newyork
2.hongkong
3.chicago
4.singapore
5.tokyo
6.manila
7.seoul
8.bkk
9.KL
10.sydney
DG December 29th, 2005, 04:42 PM hands down, Hong Kong rules ;)
Bandini December 29th, 2005, 05:14 PM The mountains behind Hong Kong destroy what should be the best skyline in the world; because of that, I choose Chicago, over New York, as the best skyline.
mumbojumbo December 29th, 2005, 09:19 PM Seoul
http://jennyhouse.info/skyline/korea/seoul/28.jpg
http://jennyhouse.info/zboard/data/k_s_yo/1102968529/album_pimage_view.jpg
http://jennyhouse.info/skyline/album_pimage_view1.jpg
http://jennyhouse.info/zboard/data/k_s_gang/1111771391/TeheranRo.jpg
http://photoimg.enjoyjapan.naver.com/view/47/43/enjoyjapan_12/50000/49248.jpg
http://jennyhouse.info/zboard/data/k_s_do/1104869677/tutututu.jpg
JoSin December 31st, 2005, 05:59 AM The mountains behind Hong Kong destroy what should be the best skyline in the world; because of that, I choose Chicago, over New York, as the best skyline.
I totally agree with you. It looks like the skyscrapers are dwarfed by the mountains. It dont look nice with them.
Manila-X January 2nd, 2006, 05:26 AM I totally agree with you. It looks like the skyscrapers are dwarfed by the mountains. It dont look nice with them.
The natural setting is what makes HK's skyline look really nice! What other city has this kind of panorama where you can see a world class skyline with a Peak on the background! It makes HK's skyline look extraordinary!
Can NY or Chicago view it's skyline like this!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a41/hkwanch/hk%20reference/c33214720606684111217333110.jpg
spyguy January 2nd, 2006, 05:31 AM No, but can HK view its skyline like in New York or in Chicago? No, because every location is unique and special.
boogo January 2nd, 2006, 05:40 AM HK wins easily, NYC skyline is grey and old. In next 30 years most of bigger chinese cities will have better skyline then NYC.
Manila-X January 2nd, 2006, 05:48 AM No, but can HK view its skyline like in New York or in Chicago? No, because every location is unique and special.
True, Anyway about New York's skyline becoming grey and old, it ain't over yet cause the city has alot of new developments happening!
Alboboy11 January 6th, 2006, 01:28 AM plus, if u live in New York, u'd like that old feel in some parts of the city...its not good to always progress and forget about the past...
New York's beautiful old style buildings with masonry contrasts with the new glass buildings...i think it's a good contrast, and makes it more unique than any other city in the world...
BTW, the only reason New York has old grey buildings that are actualyl skyscpraers is because New York was the ONLY place around the world really making an attempt to build skyscrapers at that time...new york is not gonna destroy these buildings to suit the rest of the world...New York is FAR more advanced than any other place when it comes to architecture...
Marcanadian January 6th, 2006, 04:01 AM HK for sure. Just a majority of skyscrapers
Manila-X January 6th, 2006, 04:54 AM Again, Hong Kong is not just a city of skyscrapers but quality ones as well. Some of Asia's landmark scrapers are in HK :)
Art Deco January 7th, 2006, 12:54 PM The natural setting is what makes HK's skyline look really nice! What other city has this kind of panorama where you can see a world class skyline with a Peak on the background! It makes HK's skyline look extraordinary!
Can NY or Chicago view it's skyline like this!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a41/hkwanch/hk%20reference/c33214720606684111217333110.jpg
I completely agree with you, WANCH. And you know what? Hong Kong DOES have the best skyline in the world and that's coming from somebody who is as passionate as anybody about New York and its skyscrapers. I've accepted it and I'm no longer in denial about it... my mind has been opened and there are a few things I always knew in the back of my mind but never said because it would be making a case for Hong Kong:
First of all, I'm getting sick of all the comments about New York and Chicago having suuuuuuuch an advantage over HK when it comes to "classic skyscrapers" and "historical architecture". While that may be true, a majority of people here make themselves sound so superior and downgrading about it that it makes me want to hurl. They go around acting as if Hong Kong could do jackshit about it, like it too, was building skyscrapers around the sametime and still got completely blown out of the water -- It wasn't.
But here's something oh, so interesting --- What Hong Kong lacks in the historical architecture department, it makes up for by kicking New York and Chicago's asses to the curb and out into moving traffic on a highway when it comes to post-modern and futuristic design and this is when both of those cities are still capable of building skyscrapers. But you know what? They may as well be in the same position Hong Kong was in when they were building all the "classics" and "timeless masterpieces" in the 20s, 30s (and I guess uh, the 70s) because they can't do anything about being the shit in the toilet that is inevitably flushed down!
I can't wait until I get to visit the City of Life in March. :cheers:
Khanabadosh January 7th, 2006, 03:11 PM Hong Kong.
Manila-X January 7th, 2006, 03:51 PM At least the old Bank Of China building has been preserved but in the 21st century, classical skyscrapers are that important at all. They rather look into the future and that's what Hong Kong is doing.
Art Deco, the only thing I can say, one picture is enough to describe the world's best skyline compared to those who flood this thread with pics of their skylines where in fact it's not even no.1!
Art Deco January 7th, 2006, 04:43 PM At least the old Bank Of China building has been preserved but in the 21st century, classical skyscrapers are that important at all. They rather look into the future and that's what Hong Kong is doing.
Art Deco, the only thing I can say, one picture is enough to describe the world's best skyline compared to those who flood this thread with pics of their skylines where in fact it's not even no.1!
The pic you posted above is one of the most impressive HK pics I've ever seen on the internet. I want it in big wallpaper form!
Manila-X January 8th, 2006, 01:18 PM Unfortunately, they're not mine and the credit goes to the photographers :)
But once I get myself a good camera, I'll be taking alot of pictures and I mean alot!
Audiomuse January 8th, 2006, 05:34 PM 1. NY
2 Chicago
3 Seoul
4 HK
5 Tokyo
6 Toronto
7 Shanghai
8 Frankfurt
9 Shenzen
Manila-X January 9th, 2006, 04:55 AM 1. NY
2 Chicago
3 Seoul
4 HK
5 Tokyo
6 Toronto
7 Shanghai
8 Frankfurt
9 Shenzen
Seoul better than HK! Are you serious?
aranetacoliseum January 9th, 2006, 04:19 PM 1.NYC
2.HONGKONG
3,CHICAGO
4.SINGAPORE
5.SYDNEY
6.TOKYO
7.SEOUL
8.SHANGHAI
9.MANILA
10.KL
JoSin January 10th, 2006, 05:23 AM I realise that Asia has nicer skylines than other continents...
I think its because we develop at the late century...where buildings look nicer.
JoSin January 10th, 2006, 05:28 AM I completely agree with you, WANCH. And you know what? Hong Kong DOES have the best skyline in the world and that's coming from somebody who is as passionate as anybody about New York and its skyscrapers. I've accepted it and I'm no longer in denial about it... my mind has been opened and there are a few things I always knew in the back of my mind but never said because it would be making a case for Hong Kong:
First of all, I'm getting sick of all the comments about New York and Chicago having suuuuuuuch an advantage over HK when it comes to "classic skyscrapers" and "historical architecture". While that may be true, a majority of people here make themselves sound so superior and downgrading about it that it makes me want to hurl. They go around acting as if Hong Kong could do jackshit about it, like it too, was building skyscrapers around the sametime and still got completely blown out of the water -- It wasn't.
But here's something oh, so interesting --- What Hong Kong lacks in the historical architecture department, it makes up for by kicking New York and Chicago's asses to the curb and out into moving traffic on a highway when it comes to post-modern and futuristic design and this is when both of those cities are still capable of building skyscrapers. But you know what? They may as well be in the same position Hong Kong was in when they were building all the "classics" and "timeless masterpieces" in the 20s, 30s (and I guess uh, the 70s) because they can't do anything about being the shit in the toilet that is inevitably flushed down!
I can't wait until I get to visit the City of Life in March. :cheers:
I would like some feedback...does singapore lack in historical or colonial architecture?
JoSin January 10th, 2006, 05:31 AM By the way I love new York and Chicago as it is...there is no need for them to tear down old buildings cos they are and represent the pioneers of skyscrapers and are unique and special. These buildings were built in early 20th century i guess...so of course they are not futuristic, but Wanch...different skylines have different designs, and quality. We should not compare each other's skylines actually. There is no need for it...:):):):)
Manila-X January 10th, 2006, 05:51 AM By the way I love new York and Chicago as it is...there is no need for them to tear down old buildings cos they are and represent the pioneers of skyscrapers and are unique and special. These buildings were built in early 20th century i guess...so of course they are not futuristic, but Wanch...different skylines have different designs, and quality. We should not compare each other's skylines actually. There is no need for it...:):):):)
Most of these classical buildings in NY and Chicago are actually preserved. But some of the inside are rennovated though.
Anyway skylines are sometimes worth comparing since one skyline is different from the other.
And on Singapore, there are a few classic skyscrapers in Shenton Way which also resembles the Old Bank Of China building in HK :)
redstone January 10th, 2006, 08:11 PM Actually Shenton Way has quite few skyscapers beacause the occupy very long plots, formerly on the site of old row shophouses. So the podiums are very long and narrow.
Cecil Street and Robinson Road has more skyscrapers. :cool:
hkskyline January 11th, 2006, 03:11 AM I think the key to a great skyline is visibility. New York, Hong Kong, and Chicago all have good vantage points to view their buildings (ie. New York from New Jersey, Hong Kong from the Peak, and Chicago from Lake Michigan).
BoCHK January 11th, 2006, 03:54 AM I'm quite surprised that people are citing natural surroundings as the reason for HK not having the world's greatest skyline. What else can I say other than that I completely, 110% disagree. The skyline sitting on a small island at the edge of one of the world's busiest harbour's with a green mountainous/hilly backdrop give it outright one of the most incomparable settings on the entire planet; certainly better than New York or Chicago by far. IMHO.
Gandhi January 11th, 2006, 04:46 AM For me: Chicago, HK, Shanghai, NY, Toronto, Shenzen, Seoul
Manila-X January 11th, 2006, 06:06 AM I'm quite surprised that people are citing natural surroundings as the reason for HK not having the world's greatest skyline. What else can I say other than that I completely, 110% disagree. The skyline sitting on a small island at the edge of one of the world's busiest harbour's with a green mountainous/hilly backdrop give it outright one of the most incomparable settings on the entire planet; certainly better than New York or Chicago by far. IMHO.
I definitely agree!
HK skyline, there are also other vantage points to view HK's skyline like from other Peaks like the ones in Kowloon and also from the harbour :)
spyguy January 11th, 2006, 06:47 AM ^Yeah, you've told us many times that you agree :)
Manila-X January 11th, 2006, 10:47 AM Though not the best skylines, San Francisco and Seattle also has that visibility advantage except when there's a fog!
Audiomuse January 11th, 2006, 07:46 PM Seoul better than HK! Are you serious?
yeash
wjfox January 11th, 2006, 09:24 PM 5 years ago, I would have said New York.
Now, it's Hong Kong.
JDRS January 11th, 2006, 10:08 PM It's got to be Hong Kong in my opinion followed by New York
cncity January 12th, 2006, 12:14 AM Hongkong followed by New York...thers no competition for these 2 cities..
CKID January 12th, 2006, 01:49 AM NEW YORK!!!
TORONTO !!!!!
MEXICO CITY !!!
In North America that is.........!!!
They have the greatest # of skyscrapers!!!! :) :)
:gaah: :righton: :lurker: :applause: m))
Manila-X January 12th, 2006, 04:52 AM NEW YORK!!!
TORONTO !!!!!
MEXICO CITY !!!
In North America that is.........!!!
They have the greatest # of skyscrapers!!!! :) :)
:gaah: :righton: :lurker: :applause: m))
Would be better to post that in Best North American skyline!
Manila-X January 12th, 2006, 04:54 AM http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html
How many North American cities are in the top 10?
[1]*1 108672 Hong Kong China 3596 Union Square phase 7 (484m, u/c)
[2]*2 35319 New York (incl. Jersey City, Guttenberg) USA 866 One World Trade Center (417m, destroyed)
[3]*3 16784 Tokyo Japan 523 Mid Town Tower (248m, u/c)
[4]*4 14843 Shanghai China 428 Shanghai World Financial Center (492m, u/c)
[5]*5 14579 Chicago USA 327 Sears Tower (442m)
[6]*6 11889 Bangkok Thailand 410 Baiyoke Tower II (304m)
[9]*7 11781 Dubai UAE 177 Burj Dubai (705m, u/c)
[10]*8 8027 Seoul South Korea 356 Tower Palace 3, Tower G (264m)
[7]*9 7692 Singapore Singapore 295 Republic Plaza (295m)
[8]*10 7343 Kuala Lumpur Malaysia 202 Petronas Tower I (452m)
[11]*11 6778 Shenzhen China 184 Shun Hing Square (384m)
[12]*12 6445 Chongqing China 235 Wanhao Financial Center (357m, u/c)
[17]*13 6163 Guangzhou China 155 CITIC Plaza (391m)
[13]*14 5940 Manila (incl. Makati, Mandaluyong, Ortigas, Quezon City) Philippines 174 PBCOM Tower (259m)
[14]*15 5531 Toronto (inc. Mississauga) Canada 241 First Canadian Place (298m)
[16]*16 4609 Houston USA 107 JP MorganChase Tower (305m)
[15]*17 4599 Sydney (incl. Bondi, North Sydney, Chatswood) Australia 134 Chifley Tower (244m)
[18]*18 4536 Osaka (incl. Izumisano) Japan 112 Rinku Gate Tower (256m)
[20]*19 4460 Moscow Russia 124 Federation, Tower A (345m, u/c)
[27]*20 4170 Miami (incl. Miami Beach) USA 103 Met 3 (264m, u/c)
spyguy January 12th, 2006, 05:04 AM This is a thread about world's best skyline. Density/quantity is only one factor. The fact that North American skylines generally lack in this category is made up for in quality (something Asia doesn't have).
Manila-X January 12th, 2006, 05:17 AM There are several cities in The Far East that have collections of quality skyscrapers. In fact, Asian skyscrapers are becoming the model for today's post modern architecture. Ok, Asian cities may lack the classics but this is the 21st century and I prefer looking at the future than in the past!
spyguy January 12th, 2006, 06:29 AM ^Still. If you're going to post that info that shows Asian cities at the top because of quantity then you have to take the good with the bad, and the bad in this case are the dull, commie-block-like boxes that do not form distinctive skylines like that of American/Canadian skylines.
aranetacoliseum January 12th, 2006, 06:37 AM NEWYORK then HONGKONG
Manila-X January 12th, 2006, 06:39 AM ^Still. If you're going to post that info that shows Asian cities at the top because of quantity then you have to take the good with the bad, and the bad in this case are the dull, commie-block-like boxes that do not form distinctive skylines like that of American/Canadian skylines.
It's the same thing with some of the largest cities in North America especially New York and formerly, Chicago and Toronto.
New York's skyline is surronded by housing estates. Even in Lower Manhattan where you got PJ nearby on the Lower East Side.
Chicago had the same thing with Cabrini Green and Robert Taylor Homes but they are demonlished!
Lanier January 14th, 2006, 02:49 AM Hong Kong has the best looking skyline
Manila-X January 18th, 2006, 11:44 AM Actually, the real battle here is between Hong Kong and New York! There are millions out there who still think NY has the best skyline!
JoSin January 19th, 2006, 10:11 AM I like new york skyline more...
Manila-X January 19th, 2006, 10:24 AM I like The New York skyline especially it's collection of skyscrapers but I find HK much better because I'm a biased mofo but at least we have a skyline to brag about :D And HK has some of the finest collection of skyscrapers in Asia as well!
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BoCHK January 19th, 2006, 09:11 PM ^Still. If you're going to post that info that shows Asian cities at the top because of quantity then you have to take the good with the bad, and the bad in this case are the dull, commie-block-like boxes that do not form distinctive skylines like that of American/Canadian skylines.
Hong Kong and New York are at a disadvantage when it comes to this because they both house incredibly large populations on islands, so the need for many high-rise residential towers is a must and of course they aren't going to be architecturally interesting.
However, it's still a fact that they exist and this is what I love and find so unique about Chicago: It's very pure and straight forward. You don't have to deal or look at the utter dullness when it comes to the skyline, you can just enjoy it. It's also so damn incredibly tall... I'm not talking about tall with spires, masts and all that nonsense, Chicago is tallllllllll. The Sears, to an almost mind numbing extent. Chicago just doesn't fuck around when it comes to building them big, tall and bold... although I love how the Fordham Spire will kick the shit back towards all the spires Asia has thrown up, thus making their skyscrapers officially "taller". Anybody with eyes can see and take note that the Petronas are not taller than the Sears, Central Plaza is not taller than JHC and Bank of China is not taller than Aon, yet they are listed as being so. In fact, Chicago really has three of the 10 tallest buildings in the world.
Keep doing your thing, Chi-town. Love it.
Muyangguniang January 19th, 2006, 10:25 PM Hong Kong>New York>Shanghai>Chicago>Paris
gronier January 19th, 2006, 10:33 PM Chicago now.... Dubai in the future.
BoCHK January 19th, 2006, 10:53 PM Chicago now.... Dubai in the future.
While the majority of people view Chicago as being third among the "Big Three" skylines (I consider them all equally great in their own way for the most part), I think it'll actually compete more with Dubai than either Hong Kong or New York which are both so compact and so built up already (of course, you can't beat good old land reclamation and demolition).
Chicago is already incredibly tall (especially by roof) and if it can add something such as the Fordham Spire, it'll pretty much secure its place for the 21st century. Of course, there are other projects such as the Trump Int'l Hotel & Tower as well as the Waterview Tower which are legitimate supertalls. The combination of past + present should be enough for Chicago to hold its own against the onslaught of Dubai projects.
nomarandlee January 19th, 2006, 11:56 PM While the majority of people view Chicago as being third among the "Big Three" skylines (I consider them all equally great in their own way for the most part), I think it'll actually compete more with Dubai than either Hong Kong or New York which are both so compact and so built up already (of course, you can't beat good old land reclamation and demolition).
Chicago is already incredibly tall (especially by roof) and if it can add something such as the Fordham Spire, it'll pretty much secure its place for the 21st century. Of course, there are other projects such as the Trump Int'l Hotel & Tower as well as the Waterview Tower which are legitimate supertalls. The combination of past + present should be enough for Chicago to hold its own against the onslaught of Dubai projects.
I think if Dubai really gets all these supertalls done then Dubai will be far ahead of Hong Kong and NYC in the tallness factor as well (not just pushing for a spot with Chicago). However, with Dubai's going to be so spread out and the fact that there is great drop off (and still will be) after Dubais supertalls I think Hong Kongs, Chicagos, and New Yorks skylines will always look much more "complete" and organic then Dubai's will.
Plus, you have to give it up to the old big three that their buildigns have been largely market driven and not sheik ego driven.
I would disagree with you about Hong Kong and New York being very dense. If you look at the density of just the comercial buildings (which are the REAL tall buildings in both cities) then New Yorks has a much more dense and large core then any other city on earth including Hong Kong. I think that can be both a good and bad thing though. I like the fact that in general you can identify and appreciate more indivual buildings in any given angle of Hong Kongs or Chicago skyline then New Yorks. Hong Kong and Chicago have their skylines more on a canvass while Mid-town Manhatten had the most impressive blob of steel and glass known to man.
BoCHK January 20th, 2006, 03:33 AM Midtown Manhattan is like God's country to me... you can't not get an adrenaline rush if you love skyscrapers and get to stroll through that neighborhood.
Manila-X January 20th, 2006, 04:31 AM Dubai in the future will have one of the world's tallest skyline but not the best. It can compete with Chicago but not with HK or NY!
BellevueWolverine January 20th, 2006, 07:19 AM New York City, hands down
Manila-X January 20th, 2006, 07:32 AM It's still HK VS. NY :D
Jules January 21st, 2006, 12:43 AM Chicago or NY. They offer everything from every era of the skyscraper. Literal skyscraper museums, no other cities come close.
Jules January 21st, 2006, 12:51 AM HK wins easily, NYC skyline is grey and old. In next 30 years most of bigger chinese cities will have better skyline then NYC.
What the fuck is so bad about having old buildings!? I just don't understand it! I would take an old New York building over a modern building any day of the week! I'm sick of this old=crappy bullshit, give me a break!
EtherealMist January 21st, 2006, 01:12 AM What the fuck is so bad about having old buildings!? I just don't understand it! I would take an old New York building over a modern building any day of the week! I'm sick of this old=crappy bullshit, give me a break!
ditto, I much prefer the old buildings in NYC to the new. Every time im in Manhattan im blown away by the amount of detail and ornamentation on the older buildings. They just dont build them like the used to :(
Jules January 21st, 2006, 01:14 AM ditto, I much prefer the old buildings in NYC to the new. Every time im in Manhattan im blown away by the amount of detail and ornamentation on the older buildings. They just dont build them like the used to :(
It's sad, I know. They just don't get their due respect which is what really ticks me off. To most of these modernist freakoids if it's not glass, it's trash.
hkskyline January 21st, 2006, 03:48 AM Chicago or NY. They offer everything from every era of the skyscraper. Literal skyscraper museums, no other cities come close.
In terms of architectural variety, many European cities beat their American counterparts.
Jules January 21st, 2006, 04:39 AM In terms of architectural variety, many European cities beat their American counterparts.
In low rise buildings, perhaps, but I don't know about high rises, our focus of debate, which is what actually makes up the skyline. I don't know that European cities can keep up.
hkskyline January 21st, 2006, 07:58 AM European cities have some interesting highrise skyscrapers. La Defense and Canary Wharf are some examples of skyscrapers meeting large public spaces. Interestingly they're from very different eras.
Jasonhouse January 21st, 2006, 08:54 AM In terms of architectural variety, many European cities beat their American counterparts.
Here's a newflash for you... Europe has also has urban habitation for far longer than the USA.
emilreza January 21st, 2006, 09:17 AM jakarta has the best tower
EtherealMist January 21st, 2006, 09:57 AM Here's a newflash for you... Europe has also has urban habitation for far longer than the USA.
Heres a news flash for you... the topic of conversation was of HIGH rises. The point was that while new tall skyscraper cities like Hongkong may have nice new high rises cities like NYC will always have the old high rises.
EtherealMist January 21st, 2006, 09:58 AM hahahah nice new avatar RP1
Skyscrapercitizen January 21st, 2006, 01:41 PM Skyline:
1 HK, taller and better skyline
City:
1 NYC, greatest city in the world by far.
Jules January 21st, 2006, 08:32 PM hahahah nice new avatar RP1
Thanks! :)
Manila-X January 23rd, 2006, 08:15 AM Skyline:
1 HK, taller and better skyline
City:
1 NYC, greatest city in the world by far.
That one I agree. HK's to me has a better skyline than NY but NY is better overall!
Jules January 24th, 2006, 01:11 AM That one I agree. HK's to me has a better skyline than NY but NY is better overall!
That doesn't make any sense, you're contradicting yourself. :?
Manila-X January 24th, 2006, 06:52 AM That doesn't make any sense, you're contradicting yourself. :?
What I meant is New York is better than HK in overall aspects including economy, importance, cultural influence, etc. But if we're only talking about skyline, I'll still prefer HK over NY :)
Jules January 25th, 2006, 01:22 AM What I meant is New York is better than HK in overall aspects including economy, importance, cultural influence, etc. But if we're only talking about skyline, I'll still prefer HK over NY :)
Alright then, gotcha.
Wezza February 20th, 2006, 01:59 PM Hong Kong is easily the most imposing skyline in the world. New York is great as well, with the WTC i would say equal to HK, but without them, HK is a notch above NY. Chicago also has a very good skyline. :)
Manila-X February 21st, 2006, 04:46 AM Hong Kong is easily the most imposing skyline in the world. New York is great as well, with the WTC i would say equal to HK, but without them, HK is a notch above NY. Chicago also has a very good skyline. :)
But even if NY still has the WTC, it can't match HK. New York does not have the quantity of high-rises that HK has. Also, HK may not have the iconic collection that NY has but the city still has a good collection of post modern scrapers.
Krzycho February 21st, 2006, 05:10 AM Chicago`s skyline is very characteristic with three dominates otherwise it`s huge, extesive, beautyfull located on the lake......just the best
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/krzycho/chicago/PA080016.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/krzycho/chicago/PA080015.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/krzycho/chicago6/P3070062.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/krzycho/chicago6/P3070061.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/krzycho/chicago5/PB160051.jpg
Manila-X February 21st, 2006, 05:48 AM My measure of a great skyline is based on several factors. That's height, quantity, density, presentation, organization and of course quality. While Chicago's skyline has height, quality, organization and presentation, it lacks quantity and density that HK and NY have.
HK and NY have all of these categories. HK may not have the collection that NY and Chicago have but it can make up for it's world class contemporary architecture with iconic scrapers like The BoC, HSBC Building, Lippo Centre, The 2-IFC and more.
So the ranking is,
1) Hong Kong
2) New York
3) Chicago
Krzycho February 21st, 2006, 02:20 PM The perfect skyline shouldn`t be to much density (like NY, HK), ofcourse it shouldn`t be leaky but it should be loosely like Chicago IMO.
Manila-X February 22nd, 2006, 04:43 AM How about this ;)
Hong Kong
Height: 10
Quantity: 10
Density: 10
Presentation: 10
Organization: 10
Quality (individual collection): 9.5
New York
Height: 10
Quantity: 9.5
Density: 9.5
Presentation: 9.5
Organization: 10
Quality (individual collection): 10
Chicago
Height: 10
Quantity: 9
Density: 8.5
Presentation: 10
Organization: 10
Quality (individual collection): 10
Tom_Green February 22nd, 2006, 08:15 AM Dubai :jk:
Maybe later :D
I like New York`s skyline the best.
Kowloon needs a big skyline, too.
Manila-X February 22nd, 2006, 08:24 AM Even in the future, HK will still have a better skyline than Dubai even if that city has an army of Burjs :D
Kowloon's skyline is already getting big especially when the ICC gets completed. But despite all those, Kowloon's skyline is not as photographic and presentable compared to HK Island.
Dubai (as of today)
Height: 9
Quantity: 8.5
Density: 7.5
Presentation: 10
Organization: 10
Quality (individual collection): 9
jdooz121 February 24th, 2006, 05:13 AM http://www.math.uchicago.edu/~rmasson/pics/toronto_july04/skyline.JPG
Manila-X February 24th, 2006, 05:16 AM Toronto the best is a complete joke man! Even Chicago's skyline is much better!
Toronto
Height: 9
Quantity: 8
Density: 7.5
Presentation: 10
Organization: 10
Quality (individual collection): 8
depressio February 27th, 2006, 04:29 AM How about this ;)
Hong Kong
Height: 10
Quantity: 10
Density: 10
Presentation: 10
Organization: 10
Quality (individual collection): 9.5
New York
Height: 10
Quantity: 9.5
Density: 9.5
Presentation: 9.5
Organization: 10
Quality (individual collection): 10
Bullshit, NY has far more than Hong Kong in terms of skyscrapers. Maybe HK has more BUILDINGS, but NY has way more over 300'/90m.
Also WTF why did you give NY a lower score for density?! Yeah, maybe not as good presentation (as NY really has several different skylines), but density, bullshit. NY outclasses HK. Not that HK is not incredible, and it's definitely in the same eschelon as NY, but it's not better than NY.
My ratings:
New York
Height: 9
Quantity: 10
Density: 10
Presentation: 8
Organization: 9
Quality: 10
Hong Kong
Height: 9
Quantity: 9
Density: 10
Presentation: 9
Organization: 7
Quality: 8
Chicago
Height: 10
Quantity: 7
Density: 7
Presentation: 10
Organization: 10
Quality: 10
HK has way too many commie blocks to deserve a 10 in quality. And the way that Cheung Kong blocks Bank of China is just one thing that screws it up for Organization.
Manila-X February 27th, 2006, 04:53 AM Bullshit, NY has far more than Hong Kong in terms of skyscrapers. Maybe HK has more BUILDINGS, but NY has way more over 300'/90m.
Also WTF why did you give NY a lower score for density?! Yeah, maybe not as good presentation (as NY really has several different skylines), but density, bullshit. NY outclasses HK. Not that HK is not incredible, and it's definitely in the same eschelon as NY, but it's not better than NY.
My ratings:
New York
Height: 9
Quantity: 10
Density: 10
Presentation: 8
Organization: 9
Quality: 10
Hong Kong
Height: 9
Quantity: 9
Density: 10
Presentation: 9
Organization: 7
Quality: 8
Chicago
Height: 10
Quantity: 7
Density: 7
Presentation: 10
Organization: 10
Quality: 10
HK has way too many commie blocks to deserve a 10 in quality. And the way that Cheung Kong blocks Bank of China is just one thing that screws it up for Organization.
What's the minimum height to be called a skyscraper? Face the facts that HK has more than New York.
Well doesn't NY have alot of commieblocks as well? You can see alot of them right next to the Financial District in the Lower East Side!
From World's Best Skylines
http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html
[1]*1 108672 Hong Kong China 3596 Union Square phase 7 (484m, u/c)
[2]*2 35319 New York (incl. Jersey City, Guttenberg) USA 866 One World Trade Center (417m, destroyed)
ReddAlert February 27th, 2006, 05:06 AM The worlds best skyline is Chicago. Sure, it doesnt have the density or amount of buildings as NYC or HK....but its still incredible.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9468/waterfrontpano6ct.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Manila-X February 27th, 2006, 05:08 AM Everybody's got their own opinions but I'll still go for HK ;)
Skybean February 27th, 2006, 05:37 AM Bullshit, NY has far more than Hong Kong in terms of skyscrapers. Maybe HK has more BUILDINGS, but NY has way more over 300'/90m.
Also WTF why did you give NY a lower score for density?! Yeah, maybe not as good presentation (as NY really has several different skylines), but density, bullshit. NY outclasses HK. Not that HK is not incredible, and it's definitely in the same eschelon as NY, but it's not better than NY.
Not according to Emporis. Unless you have a better source than Emporis, then I see no basis for this claim.
Number over 90m:
New York: 580 (200 Cadman Plaza Apartments)
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/sk/li/?id=101028&bt=9&ht=2&sro=561
Hong Kong: 704 (Sceneway Garden 16)
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/sk/li/?id=101300&bt=9&ht=2&sro=701
Height, in my mind is not too important for a dramatic skyline. Design and individuality as well as a building's placement and cohesiveness with its surroundings are also important.
HK has way too many commie blocks to deserve a 10 in quality. And the way that Cheung Kong blocks Bank of China is just one thing that screws it up for Organization.
I know, it's horrible :(
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8660/82090589a6c762b34bo8lb.jpg
Manila-X February 27th, 2006, 05:51 AM It's according to how you view the skyline. If you view it from Tsim Sha Tsui, the skyline looks perfect with The BoC unblocked. The skyline is also perfect viewing it from the Peak Tower but it pretty sucks since The BoC is partly blocked!
spyguy February 27th, 2006, 05:56 AM http://k43.pbase.com/v3/89/198089/1/49925825.SUNSETSMALL.jpg
http://mk29.image.pbase.com/v3/89/198089/1/50737978.cloudypanomanhattan.jpg
What a horrible skyline...
Manila-X February 27th, 2006, 05:59 AM Those pictures above was the city that defined the word "skyline"!
nomarandlee February 27th, 2006, 07:29 AM I think Spyguy just found me THE New York skyline photo I have been looking for for a long time.
Chicago, Hong Kong, and Dubai could build all the 2000 fts they want, but that is just sick IMO. Maybe New York doesn't have the nasty heights of Chicago, Hong Kong, or Dubai (in the future) but that is just sick. My own Chicago skyline is humbled.
Manila-X February 27th, 2006, 07:50 AM I think Spyguy just found me THE New York skyline photo I have been looking for for a long time.
\0\05{\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0g, and Dubai could build all the 2000 fts they want, but that is just sick IMO. Maybe New York doesn't have the nasty heights of Chicago, Hong Kong, or Dubai (in the future) but that is just sick. My own Chicago skyline is humbled.
It did when the WTC was still up but even without the WTC, New York has a tall skyline. I think there will be future supertalls for the city!
i_am_hydrogen February 27th, 2006, 08:01 AM New York is the ultimate skyline.
Manila-X February 27th, 2006, 08:10 AM New York is the ultimate skyline.
And so are HK and Chicago :)
i_am_hydrogen February 27th, 2006, 08:13 AM ^Yeah, all three are great in their own way.
Manila-X February 27th, 2006, 10:40 AM To me, New York was the ultimate skyline!
This deserves the title :D
From David Wu
http://fotop.net/davidwoo
http://images.fotop.net/albums2/davidwoo/davidwoo06/Peak1.jpg
http://images.fotop.net/albums2/davidwoo/davidwoo06/001_G_001.jpg
http://images.fotop.net/albums2/davidwoo/davidwoo101/F_002.jpg
http://images.fotop.net/albums2/davidwoo/davidwoo10/y_F_C_B.jpg
http://images.fotop.net/albums2/davidwoo/davidwoo19/Z_s_U.jpg
http://images.fotop.net/albums2/davidwoo/davidwoo21/001_G_003.jpg
aranetacoliseum February 27th, 2006, 04:03 PM NEW YORK ROX!!!!
great presentation of skyline!!!
its nice!!!!!!
1.newyork
2.hk
3.chicago
4.shanghai
5.tokyo
6.bangkok
7.manila
8.seoul
9.KL
10.dubai
Jules February 28th, 2006, 12:30 AM Great pics WANCH. Those first two from up in the mountains are amazing!!
Manila-X February 28th, 2006, 05:00 AM Great pics WANCH. Those first two from up in the mountains are amazing!!
They're not my pics but I like the shots. It's better seeing it in real life and on the screen :)
i_am_hydrogen February 28th, 2006, 06:09 AM Those Hong Kong shots are insane. :crazy:
Manila-X February 28th, 2006, 06:17 AM Well I like em :)
Jules March 1st, 2006, 01:23 AM It's better seeing it in real life and on the screen :)
It'll be a long time 'till I get that opportunity. :(
Manila-X March 1st, 2006, 05:17 AM Hong Kong's will be even much better once the ICC is completed! And it's gonna be very symbolic as well with both the 2-IFC and the ICC serving as gateway scrapers :)
hkskyline March 1st, 2006, 06:01 AM Hong Kong's future skyscraper focus is turning east to Kowloon Bay and Kwun Tong, which haven't been traditional skyscraper hotspots. There are a couple of new additions in the area, such as Enterprise 3 and apm :
http://www.globalphotos.org/hongkong/20051019/IMG_2923.jpg
Manila-X March 1st, 2006, 06:24 AM But this area is still doesn't have a distinctive skyline compared to HK Island or even West Kowloon. Unless they develop the former Kai-Tak airport to a new city centre.
Anyway, there was an 80 storie planned for Kwun Tong years back and was designed by Peter Pran but the project never went to effect.
hkskyline March 1st, 2006, 06:28 AM But this area is still doesn't have a distinctive skyline compared to HK Island or even West Kowloon. Unless they develop the former Kai-Tak airport to a new city centre.
Anyway, there was an 80 storie planned for Kwun Tong years back and was designed by Peter Pran but the project never went to effect.
Kai Tak will have residential skyscrapers, but those will not be built any time soon. The commercial scene in Kowloon Bay has changed substantially in the past few years, with several large buildings, such as the Enterprise 3 development. There are some distinctive architectural pieces coming with the Megabox development. The skyline is certainly evolving quite quickly in that of town. All the big buildings are less than 5 years old.
Manila-X March 1st, 2006, 06:32 AM There was even a plan for a freestanding structure for the Kai-Tak area which resembles the likeness of the KL Tower, Strathophere or CN Tower.
hkskyline March 1st, 2006, 06:34 AM There was even a plan for a freestanding structure for the Kai-Tak area which resembles the likeness of the KL Tower, Strathophere or CN Tower.
There was originally a plan for a supertall, but that was many years ago when the concept was in its infant stages. Since then, several revisions were made, including making Kai Tak a pollution-free district with all roads buried underground. Then the new cruise terminal was proposed along with a stadium as part of the building to the Asian Games bid. Back then, that part of Kowloon wasn't a prime commercial district, so getting an investor to put up the money for the commercial supertall was quite risky. Perhaps the evolution and redevelopment of Kowloon Bay & Kwun Tong will change that.
Manila-X March 1st, 2006, 06:40 AM There was originally a plan for a supertall, but that was many years ago when the concept was in its infant stages. Since then, several revisions were made, including making Kai Tak a pollution-free district with all roads buried underground. Then the new cruise terminal was proposed along with a stadium as part of the building to the Asian Games bid. Back then, that part of Kowloon wasn't a prime commercial district, so getting an investor to put up the money for the commercial supertall was quite risky. Perhaps the evolution and redevelopment of Kowloon Bay & Kwun Tong will change that.
I still have mixed feeling about that place since there are several areas in Kowloon Bay and Kwun Tong that are industrial. Unless they get rid of the industrial areas and convert them to commercial.
hkskyline March 1st, 2006, 06:46 AM I still have mixed feeling about that place since there are several areas in Kowloon Bay and Kwun Tong that are industrial. Unless they get rid of the industrial areas and convert them to commercial.
That's exactly what is happening right now - an industrial to commercial conversion boom.
Related thread in the Hong Kong section :
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=183532
Manila-X March 1st, 2006, 06:53 AM That's exactly what is happening right now - an industrial to commercial conversion boom.
Related thread in the Hong Kong section :
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=183532
Anyway, as for now, HK's skyline is still in HK Island especially in areas from Sheung Wan to Causeway Bay. In the future, it's hard to tell. The city already has a majestic skyline and it's gonna get better :)
hkskyline March 1st, 2006, 07:16 AM Anyway, as for now, HK's skyline is still in HK Island especially in areas from Sheung Wan to Causeway Bay. In the future, it's hard to tell. The city already has a majestic skyline and it's gonna get better :)
As the traditional CBD skyline matures, the focus is now turning to Kowloon. That's where the future will lie.
Manila-X March 2nd, 2006, 04:34 AM As the traditional CBD skyline matures, the focus is now turning to Kowloon. That's where the future will lie.
Kowloon is gonna be the future of HK's skyline and possible The New Territories. But HK Island is still the city's trademark.
hkskyline March 2nd, 2006, 05:09 AM Kowloon is gonna be the future of HK's skyline and possible The New Territories. But HK Island is still the city's trademark.
There is a misconception that Hong Kong's skyline is just that stretch of Victoria Harbour featuring Wanchai to Central. Ironically, this stretch of land is hardly the densest part of Hong Kong. The next tallest buildings are going to be on the Kowloon side, with the Hanoi Road redevelopment and Union Square under construction. Combined, they will offer more new office space than 2 IFC.
Manila-X March 2nd, 2006, 08:38 AM There is a misconception that Hong Kong's skyline is just that stretch of Victoria Harbour featuring Wanchai to Central. Ironically, this stretch of land is hardly the densest part of Hong Kong. The next tallest buildings are going to be on the Kowloon side, with the Hanoi Road redevelopment and Union Square under construction. Combined, they will offer more new office space than 2 IFC.
True. HK Island may not be as dense as Kowloon but this area still has the tallest and most recognizable skyscrapers in the city.
Anyway, the future is yet to see :)
aranetacoliseum March 3rd, 2006, 04:43 PM MANILA!
makati (business district of manila)
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/448/img0181s1ev.jpg
ortigas (2nd business district of manila)
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2/netimages/ortigas1.jpg
Manila-X March 6th, 2006, 04:37 AM Metro Manila's skyline is impressive but certainly not better than this!
http://images.fotop.net/albums2/davidwoo/davidwoo06/Peak1.jpg
pedang March 6th, 2006, 09:00 AM HK no. 1
really impressive :eek2:
HK > NY > CHICAGO > SHANGHAI
Manila-X March 6th, 2006, 09:04 AM We got HK and NY as the top 2 but how about no.3?
Though Chicago has an impressive skyline, Shanghai has some supertalls plus they have more scraper and density compared to Chicago.
But I prefer Chicago's skyline especially the presentation and organization.
_00_deathscar March 7th, 2006, 06:14 AM Here's a newflash for you... Europe has also has urban habitation for far longer than the USA.
And here's a newsflash for you - Hong Kong only started developing in the 1980's. 100 years ago it was a mere fishing village. Therefore to claim (not saying you do - but many people on this site seem to) that New York is better because it has buildings from all eras is just ridiculous.
So, do we have a level playing field now?
_00_deathscar March 7th, 2006, 06:22 AM By the way, I really am looking forward to NYC to see what this hype is all about - no doubt it's a great city - but I'd like to see where all this 'best in the world, by far' stuff comes from.
hkskyline March 7th, 2006, 06:34 AM I think it's important for everyone to have an open mind and see what the world has to offer rather than to lock themselves into a debate of what is #1, 2, 3. There are a lot of very nice skylines around the world that cries for your attention, and a good skyline is not just about a mass of tall buildings. The true urban experience is an appreciation from afar and up close.
Manila-X March 7th, 2006, 06:58 AM I think it's important for everyone to have an open mind and see what the world has to offer rather than to lock themselves into a debate of what is #1, 2, 3. There are a lot of very nice skylines around the world that cries for your attention, and a good skyline is not just about a mass of tall buildings. The true urban experience is an appreciation from afar and up close.
Very true, but sometimes there are times that we tend to rank our skyline with the rest and see who's better. And that's the reason why this thread is created, to see people's view on which is no.1 and even, no.2 or 3 :)
hkskyline March 7th, 2006, 07:00 AM Very true, but sometimes there are times that we tend to rank our skyline with the rest and see who's better. And that's the reason why this thread is created, to see people's view on which is no.1 and even, no.2 or 3 :)
It often boils down to a piss and shout match and in the end nothing productive is accomplished. There has been an ugly history especially between New York and Hong Kong stretching back before the time you started posting in this forum, so I don't blame you for not knowing. I myself have been trying to keep out of commenting directly on the issue while scheduling visits to New York on a regular basis.
_00_deathscar March 7th, 2006, 07:03 AM Well perhaps if people took certain skylines for what they were as opposed to starting a debate which creates an unlevel playing field, we'd all have a better time.
Manila-X March 7th, 2006, 09:04 AM It often boils down to a piss and shout match and in the end nothing productive is accomplished. There has been an ugly history especially between New York and Hong Kong stretching back before the time you started posting in this forum, so I don't blame you for not knowing. I myself have been trying to keep out of commenting directly on the issue while scheduling visits to New York on a regular basis.
I get what you mean man. Honestly there was a similar debate on this on another urban forum where I used to post before I joined SSC. But I decided to leave since I felt I was the only HKer there!
samba_man March 17th, 2006, 06:49 AM HK for me wins for the best skyline :applause: :yes:
Blue_Sky March 18th, 2006, 04:44 PM HK > NY > CHICAGO > SHANGHAI
Couldnt agree more
:yes:
-Corey- March 19th, 2006, 09:07 AM NY has the best skyline in the world. :)
Castle_Bravo March 19th, 2006, 11:20 PM 1. HK- I like the asian cities more than other (all those lights). A colosal skyline (not only Central, but also Kowloon and other cities.
2. NYC- It's also huge, and it has thousands old buildings
3. Chicago
4. Shanghai- I realy like the Oriental Pearl Tower
Other cities like: Dubai, Tokyo, Toronto, Singapore, Sydney, Los Angeles, Frankfurt
davidwei01 March 20th, 2006, 04:15 AM 1. HK- I like the asian cities more than other (all those lights). A colosal skyline (not only Central, but also Kowloon and other cities.
2. NYC- It's also huge, and it has thousands old buildings
3. Chicago
4. Shanghai- I realy like the Oriental Pearl Tower
Other cities like: Dubai, Tokyo, Toronto, Singapore, Sydney, Los Angeles, Frankfurt
agree for now. I predict after 5 years, it'll be
HK
Shanghai
Dubai
NYC
Manila-X March 20th, 2006, 07:09 AM agree for now. I predict after 5 years, it'll be
HK
Shanghai
Dubai
NYC
After 5 years, it's still gonna be New York over Shanghai or Dubai.
Dubai may have some Burjs and other supertalls but it cannot match NY's density and quantity. Even Manhattan alone can beat Dubai even after 5 years.
Mosaic March 20th, 2006, 08:54 AM World's best skyline would be HK, NYC, Shanghai, Tokyo,Dubai, Singapore and Bangkok.
Manila-X March 21st, 2006, 05:05 AM World's best skyline would be HK, NYC, Shanghai, Tokyo,Dubai, Singapore and Bangkok.
How about Chicago?
davidwei01 March 21st, 2006, 05:32 AM After 5 years, it's still gonna be New York over Shanghai or Dubai.
Dubai may have some Burjs and other supertalls but it cannot match NY's density and quantity. Even Manhattan alone can beat Dubai even after 5 years.
1. NYC's skyscraper building speed is far slower than SH and Dubai. by quantity, it beats Dubai (not SH), by quality, it's becoming more & more lagging behind of both.
2. NYC = Manhattan, the other part of NYC is just miserable.
Manila-X March 21st, 2006, 06:00 AM 1. NYC's skyscraper building speed is far slower than SH and Dubai. by quantity, it beats Dubai (not SH), by quality, it's becoming more & more lagging behind of both.
2. NYC = Manhattan, the other part of NYC is just miserable.
The reason why skyscraper development in NY is slower is because the city is already well developed with high-rises unlike Dubai or Shanghai. There are still new skyscrapers being developed in NY like One Bryant Park and of course The Freedom Tower. Quality, c'mon man, NY scrapers defines quality and are more iconic than either Shanghai or Dubai. Both Shanghai or Dubai does not have the classics that New York have. The Empire State and Chrysler Buildings are more known than The Burj or The Jin Mao.
New York is not just Manhattan. There are also developments happening in it's outer boroughs like Brooklyn and Queens.
davidwei01 March 21st, 2006, 06:10 AM The reason why skyscraper development in NY is slower is because the city is already well developed with high-rises unlike Dubai or Shanghai. There are still new skyscrapers being developed in NY like One Bryant Park and of course The Freedom Tower. Quality, c'mon man, NY scrapers defines quality and are more iconic than either Shanghai or Dubai. Both Shanghai or Dubai does not have the classics that New York have. The Empire State and Chrysler Buildings are more known than The Burj or The Jin Mao.
New York is not just Manhattan. There are also developments happening in it's outer boroughs like Brooklyn and Queens.
yes, they are more famous because they've been already there for 60 yrs. I personally love them and I have no opinions on NYC. but like you said they are well developed in 1940s-1970s so there's not much room for a jump. On the other side, you can see, SH and Dubai are booming...
Don't talk Brooklyn and Queens about Skyscrapers, even New Yorkers are sorry to mention them :)
hkskyline March 21st, 2006, 06:48 AM Jersey City is probably the most active skyscraper development zone in the New York area outside Manhattan.
http://www.globalphotos.org/newyork/20051227/IMG_3916.jpg
Manila-X March 21st, 2006, 06:54 AM Jersey City is probably the most active skyscraper development zone in the New York area outside Manhattan.
http://www.globalphotos.org/newyork/20051227/IMG_3916.jpg
Very true. The Goldman Sachs reminds me alot of the IFC since it's by the same architect.
hkskyline March 21st, 2006, 06:58 AM It's actually quite amazing how quickly the density drops outside Manhattan. New Jersey looks quite empty but there is a small skyline in Brooklyn. Queens has a lonely green skyscraper.
Across the Hudson
http://www.globalphotos.org/newyork/20051227/IMG_4410.jpg
Brooklyn
http://www.globalphotos.org/newyork/20051227/IMG_3981.jpg
Queens
http://www.globalphotos.org/newyork/20040410/RIMG0162.jpg
Manila-X March 21st, 2006, 07:10 AM There was a thread I created months back on the New York section about any urban developments happening outside Manhattan.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=307939
There are but mostly low-rises. That picture of Queens, it' would be nice to see an urban development right in that big piece of land right where the Pepsi sign is at.
hkskyline March 21st, 2006, 07:16 AM There are a number of plans to redevelop areas around the water's edge outside Manhattan, but a lot of them relate to public spaces rather than skyscrapers.
Brooklyn Waterfront Park
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=162947
Governors Island
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=318453
Coney Island
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=209624
I wonder whether the Vancouver effect will take hold in these prime sites. The view of Manhattan's skyline is great from a lot of these areas.
Manila-X March 21st, 2006, 07:49 AM There are a number of plans to redevelop areas around the water's edge outside Manhattan, but a lot of them relate to public spaces rather than skyscrapers.
Brooklyn Waterfront Park
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=162947
Governors Island
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=318453
Coney Island
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=209624
I wonder whether the Vancouver effect will take hold in these prime sites. The view of Manhattan's skyline is great from a lot of these areas.
These area will provide great views of Manhattan's skyline but I like it would be better if they combine the parks with some residential or office high-rises.
Jules March 22nd, 2006, 01:19 AM by quality, it's becoming more & more lagging behind of both.
Wrong.
2. NYC = Manhattan, the other part of NYC is just miserable.
Obviously you've never been to New York. It's much, much more than just Manhattan. Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx are every bit as interesting. In fact, I prefer Brooklyn to Manhattan. Clearly you have something against NY, either that or you're jealous. :sleepy:
Manila-X March 22nd, 2006, 04:33 AM Wrong.
Obviously you've never been to New York. It's much, much more than just Manhattan. Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx are every bit as interesting. In fact, I prefer Brooklyn to Manhattan. Clearly you have something against NY, either that or you're jealous. :sleepy:
Definitely Brooklyn. If not, The Bronx :)
Bitxofo March 22nd, 2006, 04:52 AM Tokyo, NYC, Hong Kong and Shanghai.
:yes:
davidwei01 March 22nd, 2006, 06:06 AM Wrong.
Obviously you've never been to New York. It's much, much more than just Manhattan. Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx are every bit as interesting. In fact, I prefer Brooklyn to Manhattan. Clearly you have something against NY, either that or you're jealous. :sleepy:
hahaha, I've been working there... Open your mind, RP1. The world is changing fast.
Brooklyn? Come on we are talking about skyscrapers not Pizza :) (I like their Pizza though) Just watched Sex and the City and it says ,"Brooklyn?! even my dog doesn't want to go to Brooklyn" :)
Mosaic March 22nd, 2006, 08:44 AM NYC,HK,Shanghai, Bangkok.
Jules March 22nd, 2006, 11:46 PM hahaha, I've been working there... Open your mind, RP1. The world is changing fast.
Brooklyn? Come on we are talking about skyscrapers not Pizza :) (I like their Pizza though) Just watched Sex and the City and it says ,"Brooklyn?! even my dog doesn't want to go to Brooklyn" :)
Umm, I think you misunderstood me. Either that, or you just have no idea what you're talking about, because I certainly don't. :?
jai_gandhi March 25th, 2006, 03:22 AM NY, CHICAGO, HK, TOKYO, SINGAPORE
Audiomuse April 1st, 2006, 05:16 PM World
1NY
2HK
3Chicago--iwhen everthing gets built it will be the best
4Toronto
5 Seattle
Outside America and China
1Toronto
2Melbourne
3Singapore
4Frankfurt
5Dubai
6PAris
7London-maybe 1st especially after all these new projects
Outsid
ncik April 2nd, 2006, 12:32 PM 4 of my fav pics of SYDNEY from OzScraper section
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6127/syd2rj.png
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9823/sydneysunrise1za.jpg
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3789/025om.jpg
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2917/scenicsyd10dw.jpg
Manila-X April 3rd, 2006, 05:32 AM 1) Hong Kong
2) New York
3) Chicago
4) Shanghai
hkskyline April 3rd, 2006, 06:22 AM Sydney has a nice waterfront setting, with a very nice view from the residentials on the other side of the harbour bridge.
calenzano April 3rd, 2006, 03:44 PM 1) New York
2)Chicago
3)Sydney
vishalt April 3rd, 2006, 06:33 PM 1) New York - by far
2) Sydney
3) Toronto
Sydney & Toronto are pretty competetive, but unfortunately Toronto only has the CN tower and that is not unique, so Sydney!
cyberjaya April 3rd, 2006, 10:54 PM 1) HK
2) NYC
3) Shanghai
4) Chicago
5) Tokyo
ggmm April 4th, 2006, 01:54 AM NEW YORK
Manila-X April 4th, 2006, 05:24 AM 1) New York - by far
2) Sydney
3) Toronto
Sydney & Toronto are pretty competetive, but unfortunately Toronto only has the CN tower and that is not unique, so Sydney!
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2917/scenicsyd10dw.jpg
better than
http://static.flickr.com/19/113171578_e5f82d8bf9_b.jpg
???????????????
Mosaic April 4th, 2006, 07:11 AM HK
NYC
Chicago
Shanghai
Tokyo
Manila-X April 4th, 2006, 07:14 AM Why is it that today's skyline trend is shifting to Asia?
Mosaic April 4th, 2006, 07:40 AM Why is it that today's skyline trend is shifting to Asia?
We, Asia, worship, skyscrapers. :jk:
Mosaic April 4th, 2006, 07:42 AM Well, actually, most of Asian countries are developing countries. They have to build and build things to develop their countries.
Manila-X April 4th, 2006, 07:49 AM Well, actually, most of Asian countries are developing countries. They have to build and build things to develop their countries.
Or skyscrapers can be the sign of economic development especially in Asian countries.
Also probably because Asian cities are becoming overcrowded and one way to house them is to build up.
Mosaic April 4th, 2006, 08:01 AM Or skyscrapers can be the sign of economic development especially in Asian countries.
Also probably because Asian cities are becoming overcrowded and one way to house them is to build up.
you mean there are millions of people migrate from rural area to urban to seek a better life ???. that's why you siad cities are becoming overcrowded. :)
Mosaic April 4th, 2006, 08:03 AM I agree that skyscrapers are a good symbol for prosperity and development. That's why I joked " we, Asian, worship them,hehe :)
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