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Sen
May 8th, 2005, 10:57 PM
100,000 workers died during the construction, RIP
http://image2.sina.com.cn/dy/c/2005-05-08/U397P1T1D6582289F21DT20050508193423.jpg
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Vertigo
May 8th, 2005, 11:39 PM
100,000 workers died? :eek:
Now I know that almost every large infrastructure project takes its death toll, but this is an incredible amount...says something about Chinese labour conditions in this "worker's paradise". :bash:
Anyway, it still is an impressive project. When is service due to be started on this line? Any more pics? I heard it will traverse across a very high altitude...
Sen
May 9th, 2005, 12:23 AM
most died due to high-attitude related illness.
Cheese Mmmmmmmmmmmm
May 9th, 2005, 01:49 AM
100,000 is a drop in the bucket for this country compared to the tens of millions that died in the years under rule of Chairman Mao
Brett
May 9th, 2005, 03:59 AM
do you have a map of where it goes?
Sen
May 9th, 2005, 04:15 AM
it will start trial operation this year.
http://home.c2i.net/schaefer/tibetrail.gif
mpls
May 9th, 2005, 04:22 AM
so the stranglehold tightens upon the tibetan land...
General Huo
May 9th, 2005, 04:47 AM
100,000 workers died during the construction, RIP
Shit, where is your source?! :bash:
No single worker died so far in the construction of Qing-Zang(Tibet) railway!
青藏铁路建设创造高原病零死亡纪录
世界上海拔最高的高原铁路━━青藏铁路二期工程格尔木至拉萨路段开工以来,由于医疗卫生、劳动保护和生活后勤保障工作措施得力,创造了近10万名参建人员在高寒缺氧的青藏高原上施工,无一人因高原病死亡的纪录。
3000米以上的高原高寒缺氧,初来者会产生头晕头痛、胸闷气短等高原反应,严重的会发展成为内脏器官变形等“高原病”,甚至不治身亡。高原病是困扰高原工程施工的难题之一。1943年,国民党政府修建从青海西宁到玉树的公路时死亡民工近万人。川藏、青藏公路修建时有3000多人牺牲。
据青藏铁路建设总指挥部总指挥卢春房介绍,为了确保参建人员的健康,他们建立了健康准入、梯级适应等一套有效的机制,从源头上预防高原病的发生。所有建设者报名前都必须进行严格的体检,合格者先在2800米的格尔木进行梯级适应,学习在高原工作的注意事项和防治常识。适应正常,二次体检过关者,方可到4000米以上高原工作。上岗后,施工单位还要对他们进行工中、工后体检并实行轮休、轮换制度。身体不适应的一律下山。工作人员工作两个月便到海拔较低的地点休息;非关键岗位的职工、民工每年进行轮换。
青藏铁路建设部门通过良好的保障机制,确保参建人员吃得好、住得好。每人居住面积2.5平方米以上,居室中有氧气和暖气,建设者每天都能吃上新鲜蔬菜、水果、禽蛋和肉。参建单位还免费为建设者发放防寒、防紫外线的各种劳保用品。平时,各单位还强制每位参建人员吸氧和服抗高原缺氧药物,保证建设者每天吸氧2小时以上。各施工单位还建立医务人员夜间查铺制度,做到高原病早发现早治疗。青藏铁路建设部门规定,建设者每天最多工作时间不得超过6小时。
卢春房说,青藏铁路指挥部和各参建单位投资2亿余元,配置制氧设备、高压氧舱、心电监护仪等医疗设备近4000台。各单位选派684名医务人员,在工程沿线建起140多个医疗机构,所有患病人员都能得到及时的治疗。
青藏铁路医疗卫生部副部长朱浩介绍,青藏铁路开工两年多来,各级医疗机构诊治病人13.4万人次,无一例高原病死亡事故。
(新华网)
General Huo
May 9th, 2005, 04:49 AM
青藏铁路建设攻克三大世界性难题 取得突破性进展
这是人类铁路建设史上亘古未有的穿越:它横穿“世界屋脊”,飞架“极地”天堑,穿越960公里4000米以上高海拔地区,跨越5072米的唐古拉山越岭地段,“高寒缺氧、多年冻土、生态脆弱”三大世界性难题,如高原天堑横亘在前。
这就是世界上海拔最高的青藏铁路,西方舆论称其“堪与长城媲美”。2001年6月29日,青藏铁路开工建设以来,广大建设者遵循科学、争创一流、求实创新、吃苦奉献,立功高原,跨越重关,取得了攻克三大世界性难题的突破性进展,将一个个奇迹定格在青藏高原!
青藏铁路建设创造无一例高原病死亡奇迹
全长1100公里的青藏铁路横跨可可西里和唐古拉山无人区,大部分地区氧气含量仅占海平面的50%左右,极端气温可达-40℃。在高原上生活和工作,随时可能引发危及生命的高原病。1953年修建青藏公路时,平均每修1公里就有1人牺牲。在1985年青藏公路改建中,有一个工程部门共有1500人,在5至7月的90天里,最高门诊每天达180人次,仅止痛片就用掉了13万片。如何在严酷的高原环境下确保建设者生命安全,是一项没有成功范例的世界性难题。
青藏铁路建设坚持以人为本,提出了“先生存,再生产”的口号。青藏铁路沿线建立了三级医疗机构,设立医疗机构115个,上场医务人员600多名,职工生病在半个小时内可以得到有效治疗。
青藏铁路建设创造了人类制氧史上的一大奇观。在海拔4600多米的昆仑山隧道施工阶段,施工人员背着5公斤重的氧气瓶,边吸氧边工作,在近一年的施工中,职工们共消耗5公斤瓶装氧气不低于12万瓶。中铁十七局工地宿舍内安装供氧管道,只要打开阀门,随时可以吸氧。在风火山隧道施工中,中铁二十局建成大型制氧站,将氧气输向施工隧道,使洞内氧气含量达到80%左右,工地海拔相当于下降了1000米。
青藏铁路建设总指挥部指挥长黄弟福说:“青藏铁路沿线建立了17座制氧站,4万名职工每人每天平均强制性吸氧不低于2小时,沿线配置了25个高压氧舱,如此大规模使用氧气,在人类建设史上还是首次。”
目前,全线脑水肿、肺水肿等急性高原病抢救成功率达100%,发病率基本稳定在千分之七左右,未发生一例高原病死亡事故。从以往强调超越自然的“人海战术”到如今尊重科学规律的“以人为本”,这正是尊重和体现劳动者人权的巨大进步。
青藏铁路建设实现“三大目标”
青藏铁路穿越550公里的多年冻土地区。冻土是指温度在0℃以下,并含有冰的各种岩土和土壤。冻土在冬天冻结体积膨胀,在夏季融化体积缩小。这两种现象的反复作用,路基就会破裂或塌陷。
俄罗斯1994年调查,20世纪70年代建成的第二条西伯利亚铁路,线路病害率达27.5%。世界冻土区铁路列车时速一般只能达50公里。冻土虽然在加拿大、俄罗斯等国家也存在,但它们属高纬度冻土,比较稳定。而青藏铁路纬度低,海拔高,日照强烈,地质构造运动频繁,这里的多年冻土复杂性和独特性举世无双。
青藏铁路开工前,有西方媒体预言:青藏铁路根本过不了风火山,这里冰厚达150多米,在冰山上打隧道难以想像。2001年10月18日,风火山隧道打响第一炮,炸出的几乎全是晶莹剔透的冰块,弃碴含土量仅为15%左右,这样的地质环境一直是隧道施工的禁区。科技人员创造性地研制了两台大型隧道空调机组,将隧道施工温度控制在±5℃,有效防止了地下冰融化滑塌,相继攻克了20多项世界性高原冻土施工难题,隧道顺利贯通。
专家们创造性地采取了解决冻土施工难题的相应对策:对于不良冻土现象发育地段、线路尽量绕避;对于高温极不稳定冻土区,采取“以桥代路”;在施工中采用了热棒、片石通风路基、片石通风护道、通风管路基、铺设保温板等多项设施,提高冻土路基的稳定性,青藏铁路堪称冻土工程的“博物馆”。
截至日前,青藏铁路重点控制性工程相继完工,铺轨里程达580公里,已完工程合格率达100%,优良率达93.4%。青藏铁路建设专家组组长张鲁新说:“青藏铁路未来大规模出现冻土工程病害的可能性较小,行车速度可达每小时100公里,实现铁道部提出的‘列车在全线运行时间最短、行车设备实现免维修、沿线基本实现无人管理’三大目标大有希望。”
调查表明:青藏铁路建设对高原环境并无明显影响
青藏高原是世界巨川大河的发源地,生态环境原始、独特而脆弱。国外一些媒体认为,青藏铁路建设将严重影响青藏高原生态环境。
建设单位竭尽全力来保护高原生态环境。青藏铁路建设用于环保的投资大约21亿元,占整个项目总投资的8%。在西藏“神湖”错那湖畔,一条用沙袋筑起的20多公里长的矮墙蜿蜒而过,将青藏铁路工地与碧波万顷的湖水隔开,防止泥沙流入,工地建设如火如荼,“神湖”依然圣洁如昔。规划中的青藏铁路古露车站将占用14万平方米的湿地,为了保护湿地,中铁十三局在原湿地旁边植被稀疏处,仿制了一块湿地环境,将车站用地上的草皮植入其间,精心养护……
青藏铁路总体设计师李金城说,青藏铁路在设计时就注意尽量减少对生态的影响,在自然保护区内,铁路线路遵循“能避绕就避绕”的原则进行规划,青藏铁路施工场地、便道、砂石料场的选址都经反复踏勘确定,尽量避免破坏植被。对植被难以生长的地段,在施工时采用逐段移植的方法,对自然条件稍好的地段,进行人工培植草皮。
2002年夏季,国家珍稀野生动物藏羚羊产仔迁徙时,施工单位主动停工为藏羚羊让道。为保障野生动物的正常生活、迁徙和繁衍,全线设计了33个野生动物通道,目前已全部建成,几乎所有国际主流动物通道模式在这里都可以看到。监测表明,今年大批藏羚羊顺利通过通道自由迁徙,已逐渐适应人工营造的迁徙环境。
国家环保总局等部门最近的调查表明,青藏铁路开工建设以来,青藏高原水环境一直处于良好的保持状态,生态环境未受明显影响。
在青藏铁路建设中,胡锦涛等中央领导同志多次殷切希望广大建设者奋战高原、立功高原,建设者们发扬了无私的奉献精神,有的怀揣家中加急电报仍然坚持在建设一线;有的昏倒在现场又从医院提前回到工地;有的出差途中几过家门而不入。青藏铁路建设再次印证了一个真理:各族人民众志成城,是创造人间奇迹无坚不摧的力量。
mpls
May 9th, 2005, 04:50 AM
"No single worker died in the construction of Qing-Zang(Tibet) railway!"
shit, whats your source?
the chinese government? they are usually a helpful bunch...
General Huo
May 9th, 2005, 04:55 AM
"No single worker died in the construction of Qing-Zang(Tibet) railway!"
shit, whats your source?
the chinese government? they are usually a helpful bunch...
I have given my source, why cann't read it before you utter nonsense. you idiot.
Yeah, your totally bullshit from your mouth is more reliable, lol, to my ass!
General Huo
May 9th, 2005, 05:05 AM
Sen, give us your source! There are less than 100,000 workers total ever working on Qing-Zang (Qinghai-Tibet) railway construction, how did you get 100,000 workers died? LOL from your freedom Taiwan news. LOL.
Saigonese
May 9th, 2005, 05:32 AM
Yes, the facilitator of Chinese stranglehold on Tibet and flooding it with Han Chinese.
mpls
May 9th, 2005, 05:34 AM
I have given my source, why cann't read it before you utter nonsense. you idiot.
Yeah, your totally bullshit from your mouth is more reliable, lol, to my ass!
then translate your source, or better yet just tell me in english what the origin is.
what sounds like more bullshit to you: you referencing something from an arcane regime or me pointed out the contradiction?
"lol"
General Huo
May 9th, 2005, 05:58 AM
then translate your source, or better yet just tell me in english what the origin is.
what sounds like more bullshit to you: you referencing something from an arcane regime or me pointed out the contradiction?
"lol"
LOL, what a funny idiot. IF we talking about things in China, should we refer to sources from Martins, instead of refering to Chinese sources.
If you do care China, learn some Chinese by yourself. I don't have duty to educate idiots.
chewys
May 9th, 2005, 06:03 AM
100,000 is a drop in the bucket for this country compared to the tens of millions that died in the years under rule of Chairman Mao
Another China bashing mindless propoganda.
Sen
May 9th, 2005, 06:11 AM
Sen, give us your source! There are only about 22,000 workers totally working on Qing-Zang (Qinghai-Tibet) railway construction, how did you get 100,000 workers died? LOL from your freedom Taiwan news. LOL.
LOL exactly right.
I got it from Tibet.ca. The article talks about the difficulty of buidling such a railway, didn't know they would lie about numbers dead.
General Huo
May 9th, 2005, 06:22 AM
LOL exactly right.
I got it from Tibet.ca. The article talks about the difficulty of buidling such a railway, didn't know they would lie about numbers dead.
Come on, how could you... :) , you know Tibet.ca is suited for those like mpls. They would lie about everything in China, but their audience died to believe in. no more comments now.
Anyway, I will plan to take a ride of this railway in my life. :)
Sen
May 9th, 2005, 06:44 AM
lol the funny thing is the article had a quite positive tone so i believed them.
mpls
May 9th, 2005, 07:39 AM
LOL, what a funny idiot. IF we talking about things in China, should we refer to sources from Martins, instead of refering to Chinese sources.
If you do care China, learn some Chinese by yourself. I don't have duty to educate idiots.
apparently you don't understand the concept of a conflict of interest. do you know that you are a gear of the machine? no, that must be the funny idiot in me talking again.
and oh, i am idiot for not knowing chinese?
invincible
May 9th, 2005, 01:57 PM
If you do care China, learn some Chinese by yourself. I don't have duty to educate idiots.
If you post something in a language other than English in the international forums, you have no right to call people who can't read Chinese idiots.
But it's common for any authority to cover up death tolls - it is in their best interests to do so after all.
chewys
May 9th, 2005, 04:52 PM
I don't think he called someone who can't read Chinese as fool. Read carefully before jumping into conclusion. Also, while this is a forum that uses English, there's nothing that say one can't use information / sources from other languages. If you really need to read the info in English, just get it translated on-line.
The 100000 casualty is just plain ridiculous, just like other extremely unflattering propoganda figures that being released by the anti-China groups in the West.
Cheese Mmmmmmmmmmmm
May 9th, 2005, 07:38 PM
Another China bashing mindless propoganda.
Umm quite the contrary, I LOVE CHINA! There's nothing wrong with my statement, tens of millions did die during the GLF. And I'm not saying large-scale problems are isolated to China, every country goes through them.
Eat some cheese, you'll feel better! :) :) :) :) :) :)
Cheese Mmmmmmmmmmmm
May 9th, 2005, 07:41 PM
...just like other extremely unflattering propoganda figures that being released by the anti-China groups in the West.
This is why I HATE ALL FORMS OF GOVERNMENT!!! People don't hate each other as much as governments make them hate each other.
There's quite a few heads of state right now I'd like to see their asses beaten down...
superchan7
May 9th, 2005, 07:42 PM
If it's true that there are fewer than 30,000 people employed on the railway construction project, then the casualty figure is obviously not accurate.
Vertigo
May 9th, 2005, 08:39 PM
No, thinking about it the amount of 100,000 seems unbelievably high. Can't be true.
Anekdote
May 9th, 2005, 10:16 PM
Useless discussion 8[
hkskyline
May 26th, 2005, 04:17 AM
Swiss-Swedish ABB wins 18.1 mln yuan contract for China Qinghai-Tibet railway
25 May 2005
BEIJING (XFN-ASIA) - ABB Ltd, a Swiss-Swedish power and automation technology company, said it has signed an 18.1 mln yuan contract with Qinghai Electric Power Co to deliver gas-insulated switchgear (GIS) to the Qinghai-Tibet railway.
In a statement, ABB said it will supply seven circuit breaker bays of GIS to the 1,956-kilometer long railway, the world's highest, between northwestern China's Qinghai province and Tibet in the southwest.
baersworth
May 26th, 2005, 06:43 AM
and oh, i am idiot for not knowing chinese?
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If some one wants to know about China, it is better to study the first hand information, which are in Chinese, rather than rely on some secondhand information in English.
baersworth
May 26th, 2005, 06:55 AM
青藏铁路开工两年多来,各级医疗机构诊治病人13.4万人次,无一例高原病死亡事故。
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It said during the construction period, the medical service provided medical treatment to 134000 person, but none of them died due to high-attitude related illness.
atoom
May 26th, 2005, 07:23 AM
Sen,你引用的那个数据也太玄乎了吧,10万工人,tibet.ca他们也真能一个一个的数的过来,真是低估了他们的能力了,强,不过更强的是居然还有中国人相信,哈哈哈哈哈
Nephasto
May 27th, 2005, 12:52 AM
Obviously 100.000 deaths is ridiculous!
Unless this line was under construction since the 1950's or so, and it's workers back then had to endure Mao's regime or something... In that case, it could be possible. We all know that an awfull lot of people died in siberia during railway construction during Stalin's reign.
Anyway, if it's a new construction (from the last 10 or 15 years) that 100.000 figure is utterly ridiculous of course...
km-sh
May 27th, 2005, 09:42 AM
10万人,竟然有人相信,晕.....
zergcerebrates
May 27th, 2005, 10:02 AM
100,000 is way out of porportion.
Urban Dave
May 27th, 2005, 10:13 AM
100.000 ??? That's impossible! No one would like to work in the construction! Or at least how many years has the works taken?
N/A
May 27th, 2005, 11:29 AM
LMFAO:hahaha:
tibet.ca is no different from FLG's crap.
sages
May 27th, 2005, 02:34 PM
lol~
I can't believe that there are some guys trust that funny crap.....
unbelieveable~
very interseting......
goschio
May 27th, 2005, 03:47 PM
Is this a high speed rail link or just normal rail?
Nephasto
May 28th, 2005, 02:09 AM
^In Tibet?! It's most certainly just regular rail. ;)
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