if ALL Developing nations are considered 3RD world,where are those 2nd World nations?

Lets say:Hong Kong,Spain,Singapore...?

post your thoughts!

no, i think that during the cold war, the 2nd world nations were the ones under socialist influence..

if ALL Developing nations are considered 3RD world,where are those 2nd World nations?

Lets say:Hong Kong,Spain,Singapore...?

post your thoughts!
Hong Kong is not a nation.lol :bash: :bash: :bash:

3 world is country that is little bit developing
2nd world is country that is developing rapidly (such as thailand malaysia indonesia india china)
1st world country is country that is develop already (such as singapore australia u.s.a)

if ALL Developing nations are considered 3RD world,where are those 2nd World nations?

Lets say:Hong Kong,Spain,Singapore...?

post your thoughts!

SPAIN, 2ND WORLD??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spain has a developed first world economy that is larger than Canada's, and is one of the top 10 in the world.

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Second World includes all of Latin America and Eastern Europe

I would say at least in the countrysides (which house the vast majority of populations in these two countries), India and China are 3rd world. The parts of Asia that are growing quickly will be second world soon, but they are not there yet.

what is the standard of 2nd world??

^Dont ask me!

thats why i started this thread!

@babino is correct. 2nd world was socialist nations.

The old definition of 1st, 2nd and 3rd world is 1st world = capitalist, 2nd world = communists, and 3rd world = everyone else. Obviously, with the collaps of communism, there needs to be a new distinction.

For me, the First World includes North America (US, Canada), All of Western Europe (EU 15 + Norway, Sweden and Iceland), Japan, SK, and Australia. These are very wealthy economies with large, diverse markets with wealthy consumers

For me, I would think the "New" second world would be those countries that are not quite up to snuff in regards to the first world (large structural problems, not as wealthy). However, they have a moderate amount of wealth. I would include all of Latin America as the "second world." In addition, I would add South Africa.

I would lump all other countries, including India and China, as the Third World. All of Africa north of South Africa, essentially all of Asia except Japan and SK (including Taiwan as a part of China), have large majorities of people that do not have the basic amenities of the first and second world, namely, access to education and at least moderate levels of development.

I think what we will see is the Second World remaining stagnant, with fast growing countries in Asia entering the Second World.

The old definition of 1st, 2nd and 3rd world is 1st world = capitalist, 2nd world = communists, and 3rd world = everyone else. Obviously, with the collaps of communism, there needs to be a new distinction.

For me, the First World includes North America (US, Canada), All of Western Europe (EU 15 + Norway, Sweden and Iceland), Japan, SK, and Australia. These are very wealthy economies with large, diverse markets with wealthy consumers

For me, I would think the "New" second world would be those countries that are not quite up to snuff in regards to the first world (large structural problems, not as wealthy). However, they have a moderate amount of wealth. I would include all of Latin America as the "second world." In addition, I would add South Africa.

I would lump all other countries, including India and China, as the Third World. All of Africa north of South Africa, essentially all of Asia except Japan and SK (including Taiwan as a part of China), have large majorities of people that do not have the basic amenities of the first and second world, namely, access to education and at least moderate levels of development.

I think what we will see is the Second World remaining stagnant, with fast growing countries in Asia entering the Second World.

China is not third world, not even on History.
Third world is mostly decribed to some small countries in Aisa, most of Africa or South American Countries (things may change due to the economic development, especially for some of the South American coutries like Brazil or Argentina, or Mexico)

As a country with more than 1.2 Billion population (China)
you can never define it as a third country.

Peace :)

I would lump all other countries, including India and China, as the Third World. All of Africa north of South Africa, essentially all of Asia except Japan and SK (including Taiwan as a part of China), have large majorities of people that do not have the basic amenities of the first and second world, namely, access to education and at least moderate levels of development.

I think what we will see is the Second World remaining stagnant, with fast growing countries in Asia entering the Second World.


The statistical figure indicates, the Chinese nine years compulsory education popularization rate already achieved 90%,obviously,Chinese nine years compulsory education popularization rate and female virgin go to school rate occupies the world developing nation front row.

every chinese children must have at least 9 years education.

No, the three worlds concept is no longer used. Terms that have taken its place are developed/developing/underdeveloped nations.

Yes, but 900 million chinese live in abject poverty in the countryside. sounds like the third world to me.

Yes, but 900 million chinese live in abject poverty in the countryside. sounds like the third world to me.

how do you know 900 million chinese live in the countryside?i think even chinese gouvernment can not estimate the figure.

chinese countryside is not always poor as well,some of them are so rich that all the people of a village own one or two first-class cars!

Yes, but 900 million chinese live in abject poverty in the countryside. sounds like the third world to me.
who told you the number,you'r really bullshit.dont make fake data,will you???

where did you get that figure? less than 10% live in abject poverty, many live in relative poverty however, means that there's huge wealthy disparity between urban and rural.

was China classified as second world or third world during Cold War? China was communist but we never got along well with Russians.

Singapore is also third world?

where did you get that figure? less than 10% live in abject poverty, many live in relative poverty however, means that there's huge wealthy disparity between urban and rural.

was China classified as second world or third world during Cold War? China was communist but we never got along well with Russians.

Singapore is also third world?

i don't think 3rd world country make chinese lose face. :cheers:

UAE as they are still developing. Soon, the city of Dubai will shine just as bright as any city from any 1st world country....very soon.

no but it's nonsense that 900 million live in abject poverty.

probably 900 million live in rural area but not all of them live in poverty.

but i really dont know whether China was third world or second world in cold war..supposedly second world countries were soviet allies, but china was indeed communist.

where did you get that figure? less than 10% live in abject poverty, many live in relative poverty however, means that there's huge wealthy disparity between urban and rural.

was China classified as second world or third world during Cold War? China was communist but we never got along well with Russians.

Singapore is also third world?
less than 3%36.1 million/1.3billion=2.7%
Since the reform and opening-up to the outside world, China implemented large-scale, sustained and fruitful poverty alleviation through development, which received wide and high praise in the international community. However, China still has a long way to go, as there remain 36.1 million living under poverty line now.

maybe you are talking about extreme poverty.

no but it's nonsense that 900 million live in abject poverty.

probably 900 million live in rural area but not all of them live in poverty.

but i really dont know whether China was third world or second world in cold war..supposedly second world countries were soviet allies, but china was indeed communist.
China is communism+capitalism+socialism

Chile, Argentina, Uruguay!!

where did you get that figure? less than 10% live in abject poverty, many live in relative poverty however, means that there's huge wealthy disparity between urban and rural.

was China classified as second world or third world during Cold War? China was communist but we never got along well with Russians.

Singapore is also third world?

woops, forgot singapore.

perhaps the media sources I used are biased, by I constantly hear reports of the countryside being use as dumping grounds, people drinking from blackened water dirtied from firms supported by the government. I also hear stories about countryside resident illegally migrating to Shanghai and getting mistreated and being forced to work in sweatshops. I have read stories such as a young boy who killed himself because he could not afford to pay school fees because they were in effect higher than his family's annual income.

I believe that I need to visit China to get a better handle of its development. Based on the, albeit non-scientific, reading, I would think that the majority of population in China lives in Third World conditions.

Posted by Jonesy55 in another thread.
I thinks it's pretty accurate except maybe some countries.



Human development index

Green - High human development
Yellow, Orange, Red -Medium human development
Brown -Low human development
http://img85.echo.cx/img85/1196/hdi0nh.gif

On the map as I can see and for the HDI by the United Nations, everything light green would be considered New 2nd World

China has 53% pop in the countryside

I would think that the majority of population in China lives in Third World conditions.

yeah,before 1979

"2nd" World has once been the term to say "transition economies" (the new term): The ancient communist countries in transition to capitalist economies.

"2nd" World has once been the term to say "transition economies" (the new term): The ancient communist countries in transition to capitalist economies.

No one uses the term 2nd world anymore because the communist block collapsed. there is only the 1st world, wich is are the capitalist highly developed nations of canada, the USA, western europe and japan, the rest of the world are considered developing nations or 3rd world if you wish ( because they are not as highly developed as the nations in the 1st world), which includes all the nation that are not 1st world.

there are only about 20, 1st world nations. I think why everyone is freaking out about there country being in the 3rd world is because they all have a negative connotation with the term. 3rd world doesn't mean a backward country means countries that are just not as developed as the top 20 nations

No one uses the term 2nd world anymore because the communist block collapsed. there is only the 1st world, wich is are the capitalist highly developed nations of canada, the USA, western europe and japan, the rest of the world are considered developing nations or 3rd world if you wish ( because they are not as highly developed as the nations in the 1st world), which includes all the nation that are not 1st world.

there are only about 20, 1st world nations. I think why everyone is freaking out about there country being in the 3rd world is because they all have a negative connotation with the term. 3rd world doesn't mean a backward country means countries that are just not as developed as the top 20 nations
...basically saying the same I had said before,...

mexico the same color as south korea, argentina, poland and the UAE?
parts of mexico city maybe as well as monterrey and guadalajara but overall, it really isnt that well of.

if ALL Developing nations are considered 3RD world,where are those 2nd World nations?

Lets say:Hong Kong, Spain ,Singapore...?

post your thoughts!

This is what happens when you don't know nothing about global economy

^:rofl:

@babino is correct. 2nd world was socialist nations.

yep

Most Latin countries would ( IMO ) be considered 2nd world countries. Except from some countries in Central America, The Caribbean, and Paraguay & Bolivia.

The 3 worlds are much older than people are suggesting. The first world was Europe, the second world was the new worlds of America, and Australia etc. The third world was basically those heavily populated areas that seemed too different to europeans. (Africa / Asia etc).

It isn't really relevant in todays world, even when it was it was very generalist.

How come Singapore is yellow on the map?

I once has a stupid teacher who claimed Ireland was a third world country. This was in the mid-nineties. While it wasn't rich back then it was never a third-world country. They lived good lifestyles, had nice houses, shops e.t.c and everything was clean. I knew this because i used to go on holiday their frequently. People might have been poor in comparion to other western nations but were never destitute. At worst it might have been considered 2nd world but catching up. Now it is one of the richest countries in Europe and is definitely 1st world. I always used to point out that she was wrong whenever she mentioned it. She thought that as she was the teacher and knew best.

I think former comunist nations can still be considered third world, take russia, it's not on par with first world nations when we talk about living conditions etc, but it not on the same level as third world countries neither, it is somewhere in between,