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rt_0891
May 13th, 2005, 08:46 AM
PNE to get dramatic remake
Get ready for on-site parade and a slew of new events

Jenny Lee

Vancouver Sun

May 12, 2005

VANCOUVER - The Pacific National Exhibition is planning a dramatic remake of its facilities, bringing in a slew of new community events, resurrecting the PNE parade, and opening an area of the grounds that hasn't been actively used since the 1940s.

"It's the most new things we've unveiled in any one fair in history," PNE president and CEO Michael McDaniel said in an interview.

"It's a big step forward bringing in community, cultural, celebratory and participatory aspects."

McDaniel said the goal is to "give life" to the 17-day fair, to entertain people and allow them to celebrate.

A key change at this year's PNE will be the reopening of Miller Drive -- a historic road that runs between the livestock barns and the race course -- for street entertainment and the parade.

"This is probably our most significant site change since the buildings went down in the early 1990's," PNE representative Laura Ballance said.

Miller Drive, named for the first PNE Board chair J.J. Miller in the 1880s, will feature antique car displays, live performance stages, street entertainment, historic images and concessions. The PNE Parade, dropped in the mid 1990s when site changes made a parade route unviable, will now start on Miller Drive twice daily and wind through the grounds.

The PNE is also introducing events and activities aimed at the growing families and kids market.

Each day of the fair, the PNE will showcase one of 17 Vancouver festivals such as The Vancouver Childrens' Festival. A festival entertainer will perform a one-hour show at the PNE, free to visitors with fair entrance. Festivals will staff a presentation tent.

The program will add diversity to the PNE's entertainment lineup while creating synergy with the city's other events, McDaniel said.

A Monster Mural "paint by number" activity will allow visitors to paint portions of a daily 10-metre-by-one-metre mural on themes such as city neighbourhoods or Vancouver historical events. Completed murals may later be displayed at community venues.

The Garden Auditorium will become a walk-through attraction with a Looney Tunes "themed experience," Ballance said.

McDaniel said fair organizers will also be courting young adults between 20 and 30 years old.

"It's been a group that's been fairly elusive in fairs worldwide," he said. "How do you attract people who don't have kids yet and are maybe too old for the rides?"

He hopes to woo these young adults by expanding the beer garden to 1,000 seats from 500, and adding two live bands a night, and beefing up the Motor Sports Stadium entertainment with the national freestyle Motocross competition.

McDaniel is increasing the PNE Fair's entertainment budget to $2.9 million from $2.3 million and hoping to recoup costs through increased attendance. He's aiming for 950,000 visitors this year compared to 900,000 in 2003 and a dismal 767,500 last year when it rained 13 out of 17 days.

Gate admission will increase to $10 for tickets purchased off site and $15 on site. Last year prices were $8 off site and $10 on site.

This year's PNE fair runs from Aug. 20 to Sept. 5.

NEW AT THE FAIR:

Improvements to this year's Pacific National Exhibition include:

- Reopening Miller Drive for street entertainment and a resurrected PNE parade.

- A daily showcase of 17 Vancouver festivals.

- An expanded beer garden and more live bands.

- Five street entertainers who will perform 15 shows a day.

- Two new rides, the Breakdance and the Gladiator.

Ran with fact box "New at the Fair", which has been appendedto the end of the story.

Westcoast604
May 13th, 2005, 05:35 PM
The PNE or more specifically, PlayLand...Sucks. They should have re-located to the Bridgeview flats a few years ago when they had the opportunity. We could have had a real theme park/movie studios/resort.

Tri-City Guy
May 13th, 2005, 08:48 PM
I always felt bad that in all my years in Vancouver - I NEVER did go to the PNE. One day I swear I'll do it. Then again I've been saying that for awhile. LOL

Wallbanger
May 14th, 2005, 08:45 AM
Is the PNE like a Theme Park or A Six Flags type park? Or what..

Westcoast604
May 14th, 2005, 10:32 PM
Theres an amusement park called PlayLand. Every August the Pacific National Exhibition (PNE) which is like a large fair comes to playland, and expands the size of the park adding more rides, along with all the attractions of a fair.

It's far from a sixflags, but it does have a really good wooden coaster, a log ride, another rollercoaster (too short though), and some other rides that are alright. They keep adding new ones every year.

http://www.pne.ca/playland/rides_games_food/images/hellsgate.jpg

http://www.pne.ca/playland/rides_games_food/images/corkscrew.jpg

http://www.pne.ca/playland/rides_games_food/images/crazybeachparty.jpg

http://www.pne.ca/playland/rides_games_food/images/flume.jpg

http://www.pne.ca/playland/rides_games_food/images/hellevator.jpg

ssiguy2
May 15th, 2005, 07:01 AM
Where are the BridgeLands??

It is good to see them do something to add some more fun. Vancouver needs all the livening up it can get.

rt_0891
May 15th, 2005, 07:03 AM
We could have had a real theme park/movie studios/resort.

Vancouver needs one pronto. :) One that can rival Canada's Wonderland, Paramount's Great America, & Six Flags Magic Mountain.

mr.x
May 15th, 2005, 07:25 AM
Vancouver needs one pronto. :) One that can rival Canada's Wonderland, Paramount's Great America, & Six Flags Magic Mountain.

The Bridgelands are in Surrey on the city's waterfront immediately west of the Port Mann Bridge/SkyBridge. I believe the site is 94 acres in size and Hastings Park is 111 acres but I guess the advantage is that the Surrey site would be a full blown styled amusement park written all over it instead of the temporary stuff at Hastings Park and not to mention that the Surrey location would be directly on the waterfront......and now, that site will be developed. This is it:

http://www.globalairphotos.com/images/bc/surrey/2002/syh2002_268.jpg
http://www.globalairphotos.com/images/bc/surrey/2002/syh2002_265.jpg

Our only hope for a full blown amusement park now is down south somewhere in Surrey, Richmond, Tsawassen, or Delta.




http://www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/parks/parks/hastings/images/hastmap1-sm.jpg


2002
http://www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/parks/parks/hastings/images/airphoto2002.jpg

*Jarrod
May 15th, 2005, 08:38 AM
didn't disney at one time want to plop an amusement park in delta...burns bogg or something like that?

Wallbanger
May 15th, 2005, 10:20 AM
The PNE doesnt look all that bad. It doesnt seem that far off from a Six Flags, its got the whole rollercoaster/splash log ride/drop ride. Looks sweet but seems very small.

sukh
May 15th, 2005, 12:18 PM
Vancouver needs one pronto. :) One that can rival Canada's Wonderland, Paramount's Great America, & Six Flags Magic Mountain.

Yeah, Great America is amazing, they have some crazy roller coasters.

mr.x
May 15th, 2005, 08:09 PM
didn't disney at one time want to plop an amusement park in delta...burns bogg or something like that?

yes they did.

Tri-City Guy
May 15th, 2005, 09:28 PM
At least they could operate a longer season in Vancouver than they do at theme parks back east - where they're lucky to get five months business.

Westcoast604
May 16th, 2005, 06:58 AM
Yeah i'm actually working on subdivision plans for those Bridgeview lands now at work. Its going to be a big light industrial/business park. Were in the final layout stages.

crazyjoeda
May 16th, 2005, 07:13 AM
Any one of those lots just off the skytrain line is surrey would be great for a large park. Disney was going to build a west coast theme park in Surrey for the year 2000 but bad NDP policies caused them to re-think their decision. I think in the not to distant future shortly after the Olympics a large amusement park will be built in the Vancouver area.

mr.x
May 16th, 2005, 07:22 AM
Any one of those lots just off the skytrain line is surrey would be great for a large park. Disney was going to build a west coast theme park in Surrey for the year 2000 but bad NDP policies caused them to re-think their decision. I think in the not to distant future shortly after the Olympics a large amusement park will be built in the Vancouver area.

Wow, 2000? Are you serious? I thought this talk about a Disney amusement park in Surrey was just very very mild talk...but wow! WOW!

but then I guess it's bye bye to the PNE.

*Jarrod
May 16th, 2005, 10:03 PM
oh, i hope that there will be a nice big theme park plopped in the GVRD somewhere. it would do excellent for tourism for the area.

Natelox
May 17th, 2005, 04:39 AM
There are quite a few fallacies floating around in this topic, and I'm going to set it straight. First off, I used to be very intrested in roller coasters (thats shifted more into architecture), so I knew everything going on Playland and I still try to know as much as I can. So, to begin, I agree that Playland sucks. They only have two quality rides, The Revelation and Roller Coaster which is the best roller coaster I have ever ridden (Which says something, consdering I've been to Paramount Canada's Wonderland, Islands Of Adventure, Six Flags Magic Mountain, Disney parks in Orlando, Los Angeles and Paris and many other parks in such places as Paris, Seattle and Los Angeles). Playland will not get any better with it's current site because their management has no idea what kind of rides they could fit into their small park. They could add a S&S Screamin' Squirrel:

http://www.screamscape.com/assets/images/a_SS_ScreamingSquirrel_Wide01.jpghttp://www.screamscape.com/assets/images/a_SS_ScreamingSquirrel_Wide03.jpg

Or a Pax Scream! (Click for more information):

http://www.pax.ru/img/products/coast/loop/scream/pax.jpg (http://www.pax.ru/eng/products/coast/loop/scream/tech.htm)

In terms of companies opening parks here, it's not going to happen. Our best hope is that Playland moves to a new site and expands. Six Flags has major financial issues, and they only buy exsisting parks with lots of room for expansion, they don't build parks from scratch. I never heard anything about Disney looking to build a park in Vancouver. I do remember an article in "Vancouver" magazine about a theme park in Burns Bog, but that was just playing up the potential of the site. I did hear that Surrey Mayor Doug McCallum was offering tax breaks or cheap land or something like that to big name parks if they were intrested, but I haven't heard much on that. The problem is a) our small population and b) our wet climate. Further proof that Disney is unlikely to ever build in Vancouver is that all their recent parks have been opened in very high population centres (Paris, Tokyo and Hong Kong). Anyways, the reason Playland/PNE did not move to Surrey is because it was way too expensive, plus moving the wooden roller coaster (Rated in the top 10 wooden roller coasters in the world) would be very difficult and expensive. In terms of a theme park being a big tourist draw, I wouldn't bet on it. Vancouver corporations can't build anything of quality. Storyeum completely missed the boat. It's watered down and boring. The only really good part of the whole show is the boat scene with the storm (but that's not perfect). I've been so dissapointed with the quality of Vancouver tourism that even if we did get a major park I'm not sure it would be any good anyways. That said, I'm really intrested in Lions Gate Films (LGF). They have had a ton of financial success lately and they're really getting their name out there (becoming a major studio). If anyone is going to build a park in Vancouver, I would think it could be them.

And to those of you think that Paramount Canada's Wonderland is good, you need to visit some better theme parks. It's almost as bad as Playland. They only have two good rides (Vortex and Top Gun), and Top Gun breaks down every five mintues.

Hope that sets some things straight. As for this year's PNE, it sounds great consdering what the past fairs have been. Even the smallest change is an improvment. The biggest factor that the fair lacks is atmosphere.

sukh
May 17th, 2005, 09:21 AM
It could work, if proper land is purchased or having sufficient existing land, and with good planning, i heard of this rumor as well a while ago, have hear nothing since, but it could work. I dont know about some of those rediculous theories you have there against the idea.

Vanman
May 17th, 2005, 07:54 PM
[QUOTE=mr.x]The Bridgelands are in Surrey on the city's waterfront immediately west of the Port Mann Bridge/SkyBridge. I believe the site is 94 acres in size and Hastings Park is 111 acres but I guess the advantage is that the Surrey site would be a full blown styled amusement park written all over it instead of the temporary stuff at Hastings Park and not to mention that the Surrey location would be directly on the waterfront......and now, that site will be developed. This is it:

http://www.globalairphotos.com/images/bc/surrey/2002/syh2002_268.jpg
http://www.globalairphotos.com/images/bc/surrey/2002/syh2002_265.jpg



What are you talking about Mr.X those are lands owned by the port in those photos.And the orange bridge to the right is the pattulo not the port mann. The port mann is to the east upriver

Natelox
May 19th, 2005, 03:52 AM
It could work, if proper land is purchased or having sufficient existing land, and with good planning, i heard of this rumor as well a while ago, have hear nothing since, but it could work. I dont know about some of those rediculous theories you have there against the idea.

Ridiculous theories? The only ridiculous theory here is that there was a rumor claiming Disney was going to build a park in Vancouver. Do you not understand my ideas? Perhaps I should go into further detail.

Westcoast604
May 19th, 2005, 03:52 AM
There not all owned by the port I can tell you that. I am designing the lot layouts for all those properties at work right now, and the client is not the port!!