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Craig
March 3rd, 2006, 03:11 PM
I think its MBLC. I could look at their buildings all day. There isn't anything they've done that I dont like. Great modern, urban buildings. Really looking forward to their new block in Ancoats (which I believe they will also occupy).

http://www.marketingmanchester.com/news/images/uploaded/lost_and_found/194.205.3.243-2006-02-14-15-42-52.670.jpg

Correct Sleepy. It will start on site next month.

Isaac Newell
March 3rd, 2006, 03:43 PM
I hate to mention this but havent we seen this brick stock somewhere before? :ohno:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/garybaldy/gran2.jpg

Isn't that black marble, check your Pevsner.

The Longford
March 3rd, 2006, 05:19 PM
Isn't that black marble, check your Pevsner.

Nah ! The gable ends are brick faced (in that nice Staffordshire Blue that i like) with black marble at the base.
Nearly Isaac but no coconut!
Also from 'Manchester' by the late great J Parkinson Bailey:

"...the skin is of light grey granite walls with the main facades glass, with highly polished black gabbro sills, separated by white marble and grey limestone supports."

Isaac Newell
March 3rd, 2006, 05:42 PM
I'll check mine when I get home. Put my glasses on this time.

jrb
March 3rd, 2006, 06:05 PM
Looks promising. :)

More renderings and information below. Mainly PDF 0003.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/swan1.jpg

http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/associateddocs/Doclist.aspx?078284/FO/2006/C1

rolybling
March 3rd, 2006, 07:33 PM
^^Address: Corner Of Shudehill/, Swan Street, City

Construction of Crowne Plaza standard hotel with 228 bedrooms and associated restaurants, meeting rooms and health club

It does look promising jrb, but that junction...isn't that where that nice curvy building is? I kinda like that building, shame its gonna go. Good idea to have a hotel in this part of town, should give the area a real boost.

jrb
March 3rd, 2006, 08:10 PM
^^Address: Corner Of Shudehill/, Swan Street, City

Construction of Crowne Plaza standard hotel with 228 bedrooms and associated restaurants, meeting rooms and health club

It does look promising jrb, but that junction...isn't that where that nice curvy building is? I kinda like that building, shame its gonna go. Good idea to have a hotel in this part of town, should give the area a real boost.

Yes it is Roly.

Can't be 100% sure, but isn't that building on the corner semi-derelict?

I'd rather have the hotel.

The Longford
March 3rd, 2006, 08:15 PM
Roly - i love 30's buildings but ive got to say that that building was pretty rubbish. The one on the opposite corner is nicer. It is very mediocre and you would struggle to get a decent conversion out of it. Nice curve like you say but IMO thats all its got going for it.

rolybling
March 3rd, 2006, 09:57 PM
AHH ok, just pretty on the outside then, I always thought if it was cleaned up etc etc, didn't realize it was shit inside.

JRB I'd rather have the Hotel too, just a shame the design isn't curvy to reflect what was there before.

The Longford
March 3rd, 2006, 10:44 PM
Adopting Homer-esque voice: Mmmmm! Curvy!

Jerv
March 4th, 2006, 05:50 PM
Hey Jervs - you really from Staffs? I come from the Rheads of Stoke (famous ceramic design family) - have you heard of us?

Yes mate. Born and bread in Stoke-on-Trent (Longton). I havn't heard of the Rheads but then again I take little interest in the pottery industry (even though my parents were both potters).

The Longford
March 15th, 2006, 08:14 PM
Looks promising. :)

More renderings and information below. Mainly PDF 0003.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/swan1.jpg

http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/associateddocs/Doclist.aspx?078284/FO/2006/C1

Saw the detailed plans and model for this yesterday.
Got my vote but some concerns about ground level treatment - a bit weak but nothing too major and the rest of it is really good.
By Leach, Rhodes and Walker -looked very NQ - very funky - coloured glass on the shudehill elevation, dark concrete and engineering brick to the rear. It'll go through no problem i think.

highriser
March 15th, 2006, 08:36 PM
Good to hear that Longy cheers, this will be a great addition to this side of the city,that whole Rochdale Rd entrance to the city centre is getting better and better.
And finally that eyesore on the junction of Shudhill and Swan St will bite the dust.

Legin
April 4th, 2006, 05:09 PM
Maghull have finally got a website - See info on Dale St and City buildings-Corporation St Projects

http://www.maghull-group.co.uk/dalestreet.htm

maggie
April 4th, 2006, 05:17 PM
http://www.maghull-group.co.uk/images/DaleStreet01.jpg
Dale Street Mills constitutes three Grade II listed former textile mills known as Industry House, Millington House and Hilton House, situated in the Piccadilly Basin Area of Manchester City Centre.

The mills are currently being refurbished to provide 125,000 sq ft of residential living accommodation across 201 apartments with two levels of private underground car parking. A landscaped courtyard with a water feature runs between the three phases of the scheme.

Residents can enjoy easy access to Manchester City Centre, the nearby Northern Quarter and the Picccadilly Basin Canals.
http://www.maghull-group.co.uk/images/CityBuildings01.jpg
Set in Manchester’s recently redeveloped Millennium Quarter; the site lies within a conservation area adjacent to Victoria Railway Staion - one of the most architecturally outstanding areas in Manchester City Centre.

Development proposals include the sympathetic refurbishment of the Grade II Listed City Buildings, and a new -build element adjacent to provide a mixed-use City Centre scheme comprising basement car paking, ground floor retail and leisure uses, and office and residential apartments on the upper floors.

http://www.maghull-group.co.uk/pdfs/Dale_Street_Mills.pdf
http://www.maghull-group.co.uk/pdfs/City_Buildings.pdf

Northbeach
April 4th, 2006, 05:20 PM
^^ I was hoping the Dale Street facing building would be a boozer a lá Mr Thomas's.

Jongeman
April 4th, 2006, 05:28 PM
Very strange looking uninspiring box on Corporation St, relating to nothing in its vicinity.

Oh I recognise that now, it's this year's IKEA flat pack apartment building. One size fits all, looks equally out of place in Birchwood, Milton Keynes or Central Manchester. WTF?!

yesevil
April 4th, 2006, 05:49 PM
Very strange looking uninspiring box on Corporation St, relating to nothing in its vicinity.

Oh I recognise that now, it's this years IKEA flat pack apartment building. One size fits all, looks equally out of place in Birchwood, Milton Keynes or Central Manchester. WTF?!

I don't know...the glass lower levels have echoes of urbis. I'm quite liking the distinctiveness of the upper bits too. Slightly concerned it may not date well tho.

Northbeach
April 4th, 2006, 05:53 PM
^^ This:
http://www.maghull-group.co.uk/images/CityBuildings01.jpg
http://www.maghull-group.co.uk/images/CityBuildings01.jpg
And another image in Flash though.
Wondering what was going on here - I initially thought the old Victoriana's are for the chop, though according to the site they are being developed as above i.e. plonked on top. How very queer.
Austin Lord usually come up with good stuff however.

Jongeman
April 4th, 2006, 05:55 PM
I don't know...the glass lower levels have echoes of urbis. I'm quite liking the distinctiveness of the upper bits too. Slightly concerned it may not date well tho.

I can't see the relationship with Urbis at all.

To be fair, architecturally it's quite interesting, but I don't get the position, especially considering what's over the road (Co-op buildings)

The Longford
April 4th, 2006, 06:09 PM
WTF?
Why bother retaining the old buildings if you are just going to metaphorically kick it in the bollocks.
The new elemnets are actually really funky bit in terms of respecting the old bits......!
Whats the point? This is horrible.
I normally love ASL aswell.

Northbeach
April 4th, 2006, 06:17 PM
Yeah - behind the refurb in John Rylands, Gorton Monastry, Victoria baths and 3 PP:

http://www.austinsmithlord.com/data/ca3pp1l.jpg

Has Corpy Street got planning then? The images are too small to decipher fully mind, the flash image is a little bigger and I quite like the living room windows...

BeardedGenius
April 4th, 2006, 06:23 PM
http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/7743/dale9ey.jpg

rolybling
April 4th, 2006, 06:41 PM
The Northern Quarter today in all its bohemian glory!


http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010089.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010107.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010116.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010110.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010108.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010082.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010134.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P10010142.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010145.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010149.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010148.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010154.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010132.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010128.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010114.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010094.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010100.jpg

Northbeach
April 4th, 2006, 07:12 PM
Roly - they're simply...exquisite old boy.
I was taking my pegs for a walk on saturday (I desperately required some Elvis Sunglasses for minor gambling purposes - you can bet you'd find them in the NQ and afflecks palace served me a treat) and desperately wished I had a cam on me at the time - still haven't found drivers for my scanner - primax scanners anyone? When I sort that I'll make sure I'm accompanied by me slr.
More I say Roly - next crisp day give your digi another bash chap.
There's a cracking little cafe/record shop/novelty store near the buddhist centre - forget the name but sums up the place.
You didn'y see Debbie did you

b4mmy
April 4th, 2006, 07:19 PM
eeee by gum, I remember when this was the height of minimal super trendy chic, and now there's flippin sandwich boards outside.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010100.jpg

dgnr8
April 4th, 2006, 07:22 PM
Can't say I was ever a fan of the dry bar. Too poncey and full of bling merchants. I much prefered the larvelly Night & Day.

rolybling
April 4th, 2006, 07:29 PM
thanks NB, what can I say? I love the place.

I used to work at Dry many many years ago, the word TOSSERS comes to mind, la de dah, was while working at Dry I got myself barred from the Hacienda for trying to get my mates in with other Dry employees wage slips..oops that'll teach me!

Accura4Matalan
April 4th, 2006, 07:33 PM
Beautiful pics :)

GShutty
April 4th, 2006, 08:02 PM
WTF?
Why bother retaining the old buildings if you are just going to metaphorically kick it in the bollocks.
The new elemnets are actually really funky bit in terms of respecting the old bits......!
Whats the point? This is horrible.
I normally love ASL aswell.

I like it when they do things like that Longford. They have managed to save a building that had was made of quality materials and had nice detailing in the stone work and was essntially old and decaying.

The result is that the best bits of the old building are kept and an interesting new building of a scale and height that is befitting of current requirements will be sitting alongside it. This way we keep the heritage and character that the old building holds, but have a striking new building as well. Win-win!

Somebody else mentioned that, it is opposite the Cooperative Buildings and that it doesn't reflect them. To me I would rather see a building that is good in it's own right, than one that tries and fails, to fit in and respect an exisitng building. The Parkers Apartments-new and Parkers Hotel- old are a good example of this, though the choice of materials is as much to blame as anything.

I think if you have a high quality old building and a high qaulity new building, then they will sit side by side very comfortably: M&S and Royal Exchange, Selfridges and the Triangle, The Urbis and Chetham's School of music and the RBS building on Deansgate and John Rylands Library, all being examples of where I feel this works.

The Longford
April 4th, 2006, 08:25 PM
thanks NB, what can I say? I love the place.

I used to work at Dry many many years ago, the word TOSSERS comes to mind, la de dah, was while working at Dry I got myself barred from the Hacienda for trying to get my mates in with other Dry employees wage slips..oops that'll teach me!

When did you work there roly?
I worked there from about 93 until 95 and then back again in 96 for a bit.
Dont remember working with anyone called Kevin.
You are good company getting barred from the sister ship for arguing with damien noonan (r.i.p.).

Legin
April 4th, 2006, 08:39 PM
Yeah - behind the refurb in John Rylands, Gorton Monastry, Victoria baths and 3 PP:

http://www.austinsmithlord.com/data/ca3pp1l.jpg

Has Corpy Street got planning then? The images are too small to decipher fully mind, the flash image is a little bigger and I quite like the living room windows...

From MCC webd site It seems to have got planning permission for the conversion of the original building which has now expired - from what I can gather they are asking for another 12 months extension due to the new plans. BTW MCC planning applcation website has been upgraded loads of extra info.

rolybling
April 4th, 2006, 08:47 PM
I worked there around 91-92 Longbeak, Leroy and a guy called Mark(I think) were running it.

The Longford
April 4th, 2006, 08:52 PM
I worked there around 91-92 Longbeak, Leroy and a guy called Mark(I think) were running it.

Proper old skool then! It was Mark yes - long blonde hair.
Was Tom Wainwright still there when you were there?
Dean Lax?
Stevie M and Stevie J - ringing any bells?

rolybling
April 4th, 2006, 09:07 PM
All the names ring a bell, can't put faces to them tho, apart from maybe one of the Stevie's. Actually the staff were ok to be honest it was just the punters that got on my tits, thinking they were something coz they're drinking overpriced beer and mingling with the gangsters..oh yes all the beautiful people went there!

highriser
April 4th, 2006, 09:11 PM
Here's where that Margolis Building is going , another piece of shit is going :)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0715.jpg

b4mmy
April 4th, 2006, 09:24 PM
Hey 'shanks, can't you get onto this and at least save those shutters or sumthin ;)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0715.jpg

SleepyOne
April 4th, 2006, 10:04 PM
Well what an interesting and bold looking proposal, thanks for digging this up.

http://www.maghull-group.co.uk/images/CityBuildings01.jpg

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/7743/dale9ey.jpg

I like it when they do things like that Longford. They have managed to save a building that had was made of quality materials and had nice detailing in the stone work and was essntially old and decaying.

The result is that the best bits of the old building are kept and an interesting new building of a scale and height that is befitting of current requirements will be sitting alongside it. This way we keep the heritage and character that the old building holds, but have a striking new building as well. Win-win!

Somebody else mentioned that, it is opposite the Cooperative Buildings and that it doesn't reflect them. To me I would rather see a building that is good in it's own right, than one that tries and fails, to fit in and respect an exisitng building. The Parkers Apartments-new and Parkers Hotel- old are a good example of this, though the choice of materials is as much to blame as anything.

I think if you have a high quality old building and a high qaulity new building, then they will sit side by side very comfortably: M&S and Royal Exchange, Selfridges and the Triangle, The Urbis and Chetham's School of music and the RBS building on Deansgate and John Rylands Library, all being examples of where I feel this works.


hmmm, well side by side is somewhat different to sitting directly on top! I have to say though that Im strangely taken by this proposal. The new-build which forms the larger part of the whole development is neither compromsed by nor deferentially compromises for the existing building. They both seem to sit quite strongly, determindly and (bizarrely) quite cohesively together to my eye. Architects Austin Smith Lord are no mugs and always seem to produce sold, high quality designs. The boldness of this proposal however has taken me by surprise somewhat! I would be very happy for this to go ahead.

b4mmy
April 4th, 2006, 10:09 PM
Well what an interesting and bold looking proposal, thanks for digging this up.
We'll be seeing more of this sky-box appearance in the near future... mark my humble words.

SleepyOne
April 4th, 2006, 10:11 PM
By the way, excellent pics Roly I enjoyed those. You've really captured an essense of the Northern Quarter's character there.

The Longford
April 4th, 2006, 10:43 PM
Adopts his best Brian Sewell/ Lloyd Grossman/ Jonathon Meades type voice:
"Well here we have an unusual and fantastic example of the door and window combination shutter. Tied in with the industrial brown brick combination it is safe to say that this building is well worth listing and a Lottery grant should be made available to renovate it to it former early 70's glory immediately"

b4mmy
April 4th, 2006, 10:48 PM
Adopts his best Brian Sewell/ Lloyd Grossman/ Jonathon Meades type voice:
"Well here we have an unusual and fantastic example of the door and window combination shutter. Tied in with the industrial brown brick combination it is safe to say that this building is well worth listing and a Lottery grant should be made available to renovate it to it former early 70's glory immediately"

Don't forget the integrated design on the utilitarian feature of the raised steps, and white painted galvanised steel handrails... they must be worth a mint, but I bet they go 'missing' after the demolition!

The Longford
April 4th, 2006, 11:17 PM
They will be in In Situ, sold on for daft money and before you know it intergrated back into a funky new bar in the Northern Quarter called Post Modern......or Squash..... or Rank...... or something!

Cherguevara
April 4th, 2006, 11:29 PM
I'd drink in a bar called rank, but then I wear brogues and velor jumpers so perhaps I'm not the best arbiter of good taste this city has. I wouldn't drink in a place called post modern though, unless it was in a post war post office. God this is getting confusing, I think people don't realise the effort that goes into ironic knowing pretension.

Regarding that Coporation Street building I'm a bit confused. I like the bottom of it, but I'm not so keen on the overbearing shoerack/filing cabinet effect. And why is it not yellow or blue or something? Considering its surroundings brown seems a bit off. It clashes, but in a really dull way.

The Longford
April 5th, 2006, 12:01 AM
It clashes, but in a really dull way.

Che - you are a genius!
:bow:

maggie
April 5th, 2006, 02:39 PM
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010110.jpg
absolutely love this picture

skymann
April 5th, 2006, 03:28 PM
http://www.maghull-group.co.uk/images/CityBuildings01.jpg

Please no!!! Either keep the old building and add some height in keeping with the style or knock it down and build a completely new building. This combo is a monstrosity.

Roly - those pics are so NQ I can't tell you. BTW the cafe in the Buddhist Centre serves great food (for veggies and vegans or meateaters having a no meat meal).

Farsight
April 5th, 2006, 08:58 PM
I've got to say I'm not keen on it either. I like the individual bits, but I think they just don't look good together. The result says "mishmash" to me.

I like this one though, on the end. Talk about a happy marriage of old and new. Neat.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010094.jpg

Thanks for the pictures roly. You're a star.

Legin
April 8th, 2006, 04:39 PM
Artisan's Express network phase III starting - anybody got any renders

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/sharmelsheikh004.jpg

ManchesterISwonderful
April 8th, 2006, 04:45 PM
I've got to say I'm not keen on it either. I like the individual bits, but I think they just don't look good together. The result says "mishmash" to me.

I like this one though, on the end. Talk about a happy marriage of old and new. Neat.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/P1010094.jpg

Thanks for the pictures roly. You're a star.

Love the Smithfield building(?). Love Oldham St. In fact the whole Northern Quarter is fantastic. Best part of Manchester. In my humble opinion, of course.

Legin
April 8th, 2006, 04:45 PM
The wrapings just come of this renovation on the corner of high Street

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/legin3/sharmelsheikh009.jpg

highriser
April 8th, 2006, 05:18 PM
Basil Chamber's ,,it looks even better from the Interchange .

The Longford
April 8th, 2006, 05:24 PM
Its a very new yorky type of building do you not think?

ManchesterISwonderful
April 8th, 2006, 05:28 PM
Northern Quarter's full of NY type builings. Even the narrow streets with those fire escapes, resemble New York.

The Longford
April 8th, 2006, 05:30 PM
Yes - someone should shoot a movie there and pretend it is NYC Perhaps a really shit one with Jude Law in maybe?

ManchesterISwonderful
April 8th, 2006, 05:30 PM
It would never work.

andysimo123
April 8th, 2006, 06:05 PM
It would never work.
It would. Take a street, close it off for afew days, modify afew things. Its not a hard thing to do its been done lots of times in all different cities.

highriser
April 8th, 2006, 06:11 PM
Andy,,,MSW was being sacastic mate :)

Legin
April 8th, 2006, 08:36 PM
Basil Chamber's ,,it looks even better from the Interchange .

Basil chambers- thats it - ta highriser your the font all knowledge.

SleepyOne
April 27th, 2006, 10:50 PM
Final piece of "exciting" news plundered from West Properties' newly updated website.

Sharpe Street


http://80.168.108.34/Pics/Large/NAWAAB1.jpg


West Properties Sharp Street site is located adjacent to Skyline Central and is on the drawing board at the moment. West Properties have very exciting plans for this scheme and at this stage are planning a mixed use development

SleepyOne
April 27th, 2006, 10:55 PM
What I like about West is they they dont sell on many of their apartments, prefering instead to remain landlords. This means that they have an long term, ongoing stake in an area where they build which should hopefully translate to a commitment to design quality. They seem to be large landholders in this part of town too so hopefully the cumulative effect of such a large and committed landlord developing some larger scale schemes in what is at present a very 'piecemeal' sort of area will bring about the sort of improvements to the built environment that this fringe area desperately needs.

jrb
April 28th, 2006, 11:33 PM
Another addition to the NQ.

13 stories.

078448/MO/2006/C3

Site Of Former Laystall House
Laystall Street
City

RESERVED MATTERS APPLICATION for external appearance and landscaping following approval of Outline Application 068295/OO/2003/C3

http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/associateddocs/MCCList1.aspx?078448/MO/2006/C3

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/bnmk.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/jkjkjk.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/garth.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/lpoip.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/nuynuy.jpg

neil
May 23rd, 2006, 05:31 PM
Spurcing up city's 'least attractive square'

Out of todays Manchester Evening News buesiness section

AN ambitious plan to revamp Manchester's "forgotten" square will be the debut project for a new Manchester design business.
HKR Architects, which has offices in Dublin and London, has opened a Manchester office.
Among their first big projects is a 100,000-sq ft mixed development at Stephenson Square in the city's Northern Quarter.
The scheme will include apartments alongside "green" offices and retailing.
Stephenson Square has long defied efforts to improve its image. It has been described as "Manchester's least attractive and possibly most neglected square.
Karen Harrison, senior architect on the project, said: "This will be a very green development, and we hope it will be a model for the way green office development will go. We hope to submit a planning application in August."
HKR's King Street office will employ 15 staff and has already attracted a number of large scale projects, including a £38m 24-storey mixed-use tower overlooking Picadilly Gardens.
The practice is also working with developers Property Alliance on a 12-storey project at Deansgate Locks.
Philip Doyle, director of HKR's Manchester office, commented: "Manchester is now a true international city and is continued expansion fits well with HKR's international aspirations."

Mez
May 23rd, 2006, 06:22 PM
I hope to god they turn that underground bogs into another Temple bar. I never seen them anywhere else. (am i the only one here who thinks bogs are cool?) :runaway:

Northbeach
May 23rd, 2006, 07:17 PM
Fantastic news, though I'm sure Longsquare had this in his head already?

including a £38m 24-storey mixed-use tower overlooking Picadilly Gardens.
Can someone spur my reminder box - where is this exactly?

kids
May 23rd, 2006, 08:18 PM
Fantastic news, though I'm sure Longsquare had this in his head already?


Can someone spur my reminder box - where is this exactly?

I don't think we've heard about this as of yet. Could be next to bruntwoods new re-furb, on the site of the brown thing? (name's beyond me)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/nuynuy.jpg

This looks quite good. Hope the quality is there.

Jerv
May 23rd, 2006, 11:04 PM
That is hideous man. I for one am sick of these semi-random fenestration patterns with cheap alloy cladding between. ENOUGH ALREADY. IT'S NAFF!

The Longford
May 23rd, 2006, 11:06 PM
That is hideous man. I for one am sick of these semi-random fenestration patterns with cheap alloy cladding between. ENOUGH ALREADY. IT'S NAFF!
:applause: :applause: :applause:

SleepyOne
May 23rd, 2006, 11:09 PM
That is hideous man. I for one am sick of these semi-random fenestration patterns with cheap alloy cladding between. ENOUGH ALREADY. IT'S NAFF!

Agreed! We need a new architectural cliche - and fast!


Great news (in principle) about the Stephenson Square development.

highriser
May 26th, 2006, 12:54 AM
Looks like work on the hotel on the junction of Shudehill and Swan St is about to start, hoarding's are now being erected from Icon25 up Shudehill and around the derelict building on the corner.

SleepyOne
May 26th, 2006, 01:23 AM
Looks like work on the hotel on the junction of Shudehill and Swan St is about to start, hoarding's are now being erected from Icon25 up Shudehill and around the derelict building on the corner.

that was quick! This was only approved in April.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/swan1.jpg

A decent building fringe location. Good stuff.

Ephemera
May 26th, 2006, 04:59 PM
I think that the building will look pretty good, all things considered, and will certainly be far better than the abandonment there now.

But, and there always is a but, when will the inner ring road get sorted out? At the moment Miller Street and Great Ancoats Street don't directly connect, but instead split into Abingdon Street and Swan Street. It seems to just cause more holdups in the traffic.

Plus, Swan Street is a bit of a dump, and could do with much investment, so I'm glad this building is a start.

highriser
May 31st, 2006, 08:11 PM
A bit of going's on in the NQ ,,

Demolition for that Margolis building as started .

And scaffolding is going up on that stunning building on Newton St ,the one that's back packer hotel , cant think of its name,,

macc
May 31st, 2006, 08:15 PM
Its called the Hatters ( http://www.hattersgroup.com/ ) . Do you have any idea what they are doing with it?

highriser
May 31st, 2006, 08:42 PM
Hatter's thats the one ,,, have'nt got a clue mate .

SleepyOne
June 1st, 2006, 09:46 PM
Thanks for this M13. Another vitally important institution for N/4 and for Manchester. lets hope this gets off the ground.

things seem to be moving forward for the reopening of band on the wall.

http://www.bandonthewall.org/

details of the application with a view to reopen in 2007- be good to have another quality live venue in the city especially one that forms such an integral part of the N4's heritage.

highriser
June 7th, 2006, 01:41 AM
The "Hatter's" building on Newton St , is getting a welcome refurb .

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0819.jpg

rolybling
June 7th, 2006, 10:00 AM
Looks like some swanky coffee shop opening on the ground floor here, also it looks like work is starting on the hotel next door, as mentioned by Highriser.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/rolybling2/icon-0606.jpg

Irish Blood English Heart
June 7th, 2006, 09:30 PM
Is the hatters the hostel? how does it compare to other large hostels inside?

rolybling
June 8th, 2006, 06:35 PM
I emailed the council today regarding Stevenson's Square and got a speedy if not altogether satisfactory reply-:)

Kevin,

Many thanks for your email this morning. I am glad to find an avid supporter of the Northern Quarter, and I empathise with your views in terms of Stevenson Square and the surrounding area.

A review of Stevenson Square is currently underway concerning both its existing status and plans for its future. At this current moment I cannot update you further until all discussions have taken place, which will take some time; but it is most definitely 'on our radar'.

I will update you as and when further information is available.
In the meantime I hope that you continue to enjoy everything that Northern Quarter has to offer.

Kind regards,

Karen Crosland
Northern Quarter Coordinator

The Longford
June 13th, 2006, 10:44 PM
Saw the latest scheme for the Tib St/ High St car park site today.
Its by MBLC and was only submitted today.
Sounds like a job for jrb Holmes?
Cant be bothered to look it up and didnt get a reference number.
I think you will all like it so worth digging in to it.

rolybling
June 13th, 2006, 10:50 PM
Did you see any renders or anything Longy? Is it tall? Nice? Lots of glass?

The Longford
June 13th, 2006, 10:54 PM
I saw renders and models.
Not at all tall - very respectful of the buildings around and actually shorter than most.
Lots and lots and lots of glass though.
Imagine a triangular three sided urbis and flatten it!

rolybling
June 13th, 2006, 11:04 PM
What will it be? Business wise? any ideas?

The Longford
June 13th, 2006, 11:16 PM
Resi with retail at ground level.
Same height as Afflecks - louvered glass panels to three elevations, grey terracotta at the back (Joiner St), 'brown' or 'green' roof (ie some sort of organic growth on the roof).
needs some fine tuning but really nice and a million times better than the shit previously submitted for this site.
I'd be happy to see this go up if this design is followed through.

rolybling
June 13th, 2006, 11:34 PM
Can I just confirm which car park this is? Is it the one next to the barrow boys or the one next to Sachas Hotel? Tib St/HighSt? I always thought High St was where Yates was/is? I'm confused.

The Longford
June 13th, 2006, 11:38 PM
Yes - my mistake! i mean Church Street not High St.
The open air one next to sachas with the 'folly' on the corner.

rolybling
June 14th, 2006, 12:05 AM
cheers Longford

SleepyOne
June 14th, 2006, 12:14 AM
Well this was MBLC's last design for the site which was primarily office use.

http://www.mblc.co.uk/architecture/commercial/images/tib01.jpg


I would expect and hope for something substantially better than that this time around. Its an absolutely pivotol site for N/4.

The Longford
June 14th, 2006, 12:43 AM
'Tis Sleepy - rest assured.

highriser
June 14th, 2006, 01:43 AM
Saw the latest scheme for the Tib St/ High St car park site today.
Its by MBLC and was only submitted today.
Sounds like a job for jrb Holmes?
Cant be bothered to look it up and didnt get a reference number.
I think you will all like it so worth digging in to it.


Sounds interesting Longy ,, looking forward to seeing this, i always thought that site should be developed on,,i hate these surface carpark's waste of bloody space.

kids
June 14th, 2006, 01:46 AM
I wonder, is the beacon thing gonna be preserved somewhere?

highriser
June 14th, 2006, 01:47 AM
KITR , the beacon is on the scabby carpark on the other side of the road .

The Longford
June 14th, 2006, 01:48 AM
You are getting confused our kid (my fault).
Its the open air car park not the multi storey.

highriser
June 17th, 2006, 08:08 PM
Demolition for that Margolis building is nearly completed , this should start very soon

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0840.jpg

highriser
June 23rd, 2006, 08:34 PM
In tonight's MEN

The Mackie Mayor buiding on Swan St is to become a 12m archive's office.

So the existing County Record office on Marshall St (next to Skyline Central) should be getting flattened soon ;)

Potato Man
June 23rd, 2006, 09:12 PM
In tonight's MEN

The Mackie Mayor buiding on Swan St is to become a 12m archive's office.

So the existing County Record office on Marshall St (next to Skyline Central) should be getting flattened soon ;)

This has been on the radar for a while. Check out page 4 (20 posts per page) of this thread for further information and a conceptual rendering.

SleepyOne
June 25th, 2006, 02:23 PM
There's a steel frame recently gone up on a vacant site on Tib Street. Found 5 storey residential proposal by Oconnell East architects for the site on the planning portal. No images though.

highriser
June 26th, 2006, 10:28 PM
Soon to be demolished for that hotel on the Swan St , Shudehill junction .

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0861.jpg

skymann
June 27th, 2006, 03:29 PM
In tonight's MEN

The Mackie Mayor buiding on Swan St is to become a 12m archive's office.

So the existing County Record office on Marshall St (next to Skyline Central) should be getting flattened soon ;)

£12m seems a lot of money for a record office??

Does anyone know if the existing Gtr Mcr county records office on Marshall street listed?

The Longford
June 28th, 2006, 07:29 PM
More on that Mackie/ NW Archives story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/5124754.stm

I dont think it is listed skymann but it is in (belive it or not) a conservation area.

Mez
June 29th, 2006, 02:29 PM
Which one is this Mackie Mayor building anyone ?? Thanks in advance.

Does anyone know who owns the Smithfield Market building?? That one is a beaut.

highriser
June 30th, 2006, 12:05 AM
Soon to be demolished for that hotel on the Swan St , Shudehill junction .

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0861.jpg


Mez ,, the Mackie Mayor building is next door to the green roofed building in this pic .

highriser
July 7th, 2006, 08:35 PM
The back of the Icon25 apartments.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0893.jpg

Looking down the extension to High St

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0894.jpg

Allthe units at Icon25 are filling up ,, new funcky funiture shop

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0895.jpg


Making way for the hotel on Shudehill
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0896.jpg

rolybling
July 7th, 2006, 09:05 PM
nice one H, good to see things moving along round here. Doesn't Icon25 have space for retail all the way round the building at ground level? Im sure I read or heard that somewhere...should breathe new life in to the area no end.

jrb
July 7th, 2006, 09:18 PM
H, one of my fav picture spots as well.

Nice pics BTW.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_0893.jpg

SleepyOne
July 7th, 2006, 10:00 PM
Images of MBLC's proposal for the Church / Tib St car park can now be downloaded from the council's website. Seems to be an evolution of ICON 25 with the same smooth curves and similar colouration (dark blue teracotta rather than brick though). The twist however is that they propose to overclad the dark blue teracotta with a skin of moveable glass louvres as per Number 1 Deansgate to the Tib / Chrch St elevatinos only and which repect the curves of the building. Should be quite an impressive looking building and suitably individualistic for N/4.

Another point of interst is that they intend to create a "brown" (i.e. green) roof with all manner of planing on top there meaning surrouding apartment dwellers will have a rather pretty outlook rather than 'plant' of an altogether different nature. :)

ric
July 8th, 2006, 11:53 AM
...can now be downloaded from the council's website.
do you have a link...?

The Longford
July 8th, 2006, 01:21 PM
I saw this at pre planning (see my post about ten ago) and didnt have a reference number for it. It must have been lodged now. My browser doesnt get on very well the planning portal so cant look it up.
Some devil in the detail but overall it is very good.

SleepyOne
July 8th, 2006, 02:57 PM
here is the link

http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/associateddocs/MCCList1.aspx?069870/FO/2003/C1

MBLC are now calling themselves MBLA as a point of interest.

rolybling
July 8th, 2006, 06:34 PM
I like it...a lot!

The Longford
July 8th, 2006, 07:47 PM
I like it...a lot!
Good for you!

highriser
July 8th, 2006, 07:51 PM
nice one H, good to see things moving along round here. Doesn't Icon25 have space for retail all the way round the building at ground level? Im sure I read or heard that somewhere...should breathe new life in to the area no end.


Yeah Roly ,, the only unit left is the one at the back by the looks of it , near the Sweet Manderin resturant .

rolybling
July 8th, 2006, 11:07 PM
Good for you!

I take it you don't?

H, cheers I thought that was the case

The Longford
July 8th, 2006, 11:33 PM
You have a very short memory rolygoldfish - look back about 15 posts!
I really like it too (if it ever gets built like it looks).

rolybling
July 8th, 2006, 11:50 PM
well thats what I thought, I do remember you saying you had seen it and liked it but detected a tinge of sarcasm when you said GOOD FOR YOU! :dunno:

The Longford
July 9th, 2006, 12:38 AM
Me?
Sarcastic?
Never!

Was just happy for your emphatic validation of the previously mentioned building. Its not often that i'm positive about new stuff so its good to all be happy together! :drunk:

rolybling
July 9th, 2006, 12:54 AM
yeah it looks quality, I'm glad you're glad!

The Longford
July 9th, 2006, 12:56 AM
i'm glad you are glad that i am glad!

rolybling
July 9th, 2006, 01:01 AM
those images aren't that good though are they...will be good to see some better renders if and when they are released

All we need now on Church St is that hideous car park raised to the ground and something nice put in its place, a public space would be very acceptable, a little oasis of green perhaps.

highriser
August 28th, 2006, 03:23 PM
Work on the hotel on Shudehill stated last week ,, piling drills are now on site

SleepyOne
August 28th, 2006, 04:30 PM
Trof have put in a planning application for a three floor venue on Thomas St, opposite the Chinese Arts Centre similar to their venture in Fallowfield.

SleepyOne
August 28th, 2006, 04:33 PM
The carpark next to the Frog and Bucket that has recently seen construction start is for the following development

http://www.chapmanrobinson.co.uk/images/sp_elev1.jpghttp://www.chapmanrobinson.co.uk/images/sp_model1.jpg

Described by architects' Chapman Robinson as follows -

Spear Street

28 new build apartments with retail/commercial at ground floor level
Corner of Spear Street and Great Ancoats Street, Manchester


This is a 7 storey high density apartment block in the heart of the Northern Quarter regeneration area of Manchester.
Riverside have a number of schemes in the area which are designed to meet the need for key worker housing in the city centre.


Client: Riverside Housing Association
Budget: £2,500,000.00
Programme: 2003 - 2005


Contact: Jonathan Healiss

man med
August 28th, 2006, 10:57 PM
cheers sleepy - wondered what what was happenin

highriser
August 29th, 2006, 08:35 PM
Work on the Crown Plaza hotel on Shudehill has started .

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1026.jpg

skymann
August 29th, 2006, 08:59 PM
The carpark next to the Frog and Bucket that has recently seen construction start is for the following development

http://www.chapmanrobinson.co.uk/images/sp_elev1.jpghttp://www.chapmanrobinson.co.uk/images/sp_model1.jpg

Described by architects' Chapman Robinson as follows -

It's simple, yet effective. We seem to be getting some good designs in the N/4 and Ancoats - shame about the crap further down the Mcr Inner ring road (Trinity Way and Green Qtr for example)

jrb
September 7th, 2006, 02:11 AM
Images of the NQ + music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyPUgmzakr0

macc
September 27th, 2006, 04:46 PM
Just walked past what I thnk is a new cafe on Hilton/Tarrif street in the NQ. It was called Drip Cafe. I didn't have time to go in. Its definately open but I can't see anything at all about it on the Interenet.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=461254

The restaurant/bar next door called Lammar's should beneift from this. It always looks pretty negliected by the public but its nominated for best new commer in Manchester Food and drink awards, this year.

jrb
October 5th, 2006, 06:52 PM
WEST Properties caused a few ripples of excitement when they first revealed plans for a roof-top pool in their second Manchester development, Skyline Central.

Almost 18 months later and while the 20 metre pool may not yet have water in, it is indeed up there on the 20th floor and even through the web of scaffolding you can see that this will be an awesome place for a swim.

The pool will be encased in a shard of glass that will jut from the top of the tower creating a double height space and a frame for Manchester laid out below.

It will also make Skyline one of Manchester's most distinctive buildings as it sits at the top of Ludgate Hill towering over the city.

And it is signal that unglamorous Rochdale Road is transforming itself into the sexier sounding northern gateway to the city. There's a new four star hotel, apartment developments, LPC Living's Apple Building providing affordable accommodation for teachers and Urban Splash are `putting the love back' into old council tower blocks.

Forgotten

West chief executive Donal Mulryan said: "This area has been forgotten about for decades but the location is superb. It is just a two minute walk from the Shude Hill interchange, five minutes from the Arndale and the road connections are great."

The 20-storey tower and pool will be finished in December but behind it, across the landscaped courtyard, the first block has already been completed on time and residents are moving in.

West schemes have a reputation for being classy. Maybe it's the design, maybe it's the materials or the obsessive attention to detail and they way everything is finished off but their buildings do feel exceptional.

Their first scheme, Lumiere, on City Road East is discreetly stylish but has been full since it was released and always has a waiting list of tenants wanting to live there.

Skyline, while much more flash, is likely to be the same.

West differ from other developers by keeping total control. They build in-house which allows them to control the cost and quality, they retain a large number of apartments within the building, act as letting agent to screen tenants and maintain their developments.

Mulryan said: "It means that we are the biggest investor in our developments and obviously we are going to look after that investment. We maintain the building so that in five, 10, even 20 years it will look as good as it did the day it was finished.

"Our huge insurance policy is to put in top quality finishes, add lots of facilities and then look after them very, very well. People want to live in nice places, have a pool or a garden or a gym they can relax in and enjoy using and they respect that and treat it well."

Of the 248 apartments, about half have been sold - many to investors - and since they were released have been let 52 in just two weeks.

Mulryan said: "They have rented faster than Lumiere and we thought that was good. I think it proves that if you build to a high quality you get the right return."

The internal fit-out is similar to the successful formula they used across town with big living spaces, kitchens equipped with all the toys including a huge fridge, built in furniture in the bedrooms and great bathrooms.

All residents will be able to use the pool when it is complete but there are gyms in both buildings and a large roof garden on the first block complete with hot-tub.

The landscaping is ambitious with huge plants, winding paths and a water feature that flows inside the lobby of both buildings creating an exotic oasis off one of the main routes into Manchester. There is also a glass Zen room where you can chill out among exotic plants even if its raining.

So how much does it cost to live here? Well you can get a studio for £595, a one bed for £695, two bed for £895 or if money is not really a problem you can rent a three bedroom, three bathroom duplex with its own roof garden for £1,900.

jrb
October 13th, 2006, 01:24 AM
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ContentResources/235.$plit/C_17_Articles_225270_BodyWeb_Detail_0_Image.jpg

CASH-strapped buyers will soon be able to bag a share of a city centre pad for less than £16,000.

Assettrust Housing, a private company investing in social housing, has bought the first six floors of the eight-storey Pall Mall House in the landmark Light House development in the Northern Quarter and are now offering the 43 one and two bed apartments on a shared equity basis.

Not that unusual but the difference here is how low you can go - with the option of buying just a 12.5 per cent stake.

The cheapest one bed will be £125,000 which means finding £15,625 either in cash or on a mortgage. But the rub is that the less you buy, the higher the rent will be on the remainder and on this example the monthly payment would be £319.

You will also need to find around £50 a month to cover the service charge of this rather swanky building.

But even adding in a full mortgage payment at 5.5 per cent, the total of £440 a month still works out cheaper than buying 100 per cent outright.

And Ken Cox from Assettrust said: "This really is city living at an affordable price."

He reckons that the deal will make the apartments affordable to anyone earning £17,000 or more given that the average spend on accommodation is 40 per cent of the monthly income.

Opportunity

He said: "We firmly believe that people just starting out should not be prohibited from buying a place close to where they work and we are delighted to have the opportunity to offer places in this fantastic building."

The plus point here is not only how little you can buy but the spec of the building and the fact that many full buyers are paying substantial amounts to be in the same development with prices in the tall glass tower close to half a million.

Each apartment will have a fully integrated kitchen complete with dishwasher, fridge-freezer and washer-dryer, whilst the bathrooms have a contemporary feel with fittings by Conran, laminate flooring in the living/dining room, rubber in the bathrooms and kitchens and carpets in the bedroom. The same spec as all the other apartments in Pall Mall.

And it will be a landmark scheme with the tower lit up at night and close not only to the bars and bustle of the Northern Quarter but the transport of Picadilly and close to the heart of the city.

Cox added: "Pall Mall House is a stunning warehouse conversion offering the very best of contemporary living. Each apartment is fully fitted and all the buyer need do is simply move in."

But as part of the agreement, buyers will have to pay a service charge to cover such items as buildings insurance and the cleaning of communal areas. Cox said: "Purchasers may not be buying the property outright but they will have all the usual rights and responsibilities of a full owner-occupier."

Apartments go on sale next Thursday. More information: 0845 373 242 for further information, or go to the website listed below.

SleepyOne
October 15th, 2006, 06:08 PM
The carpark next to the Frog and Bucket that has recently seen construction start is for the following development

http://www.chapmanrobinson.co.uk/images/sp_elev1.jpghttp://www.chapmanrobinson.co.uk/images/sp_model1.jpg

Crane going up on site this afternoon.

Architecty
October 16th, 2006, 01:24 PM
Hope the materials and finishes are good, could be a little gem if done well, but has the unfortunate potential to look tatty very quickly if corners are cut. Quite a lot of the current smaller NQ stuff falls into the hit and (near) miss category.

Isaac Newell
October 16th, 2006, 01:52 PM
Would be nice if it was grey concrete with the wooden shuttering imprinted on it.

macc
October 17th, 2006, 07:44 PM
Went to Lamarrs, on Hilton Street the other Friday. Proper little gem, it is. Friendliest bouncer I've met in a long time, too. It was just the right kind of busy. The punters weren't up their own arset all, though it I did think the decor was a tiny bit 'Deansgate'. I need a second look to be sure though. Hopefully I was mistaken.

Some mates are coming up from darn sarf at the weekend and I think we will be finishing the night in there before going to a house party. Further judgement after that, but so far, so very good. Recommended.

highriser
October 18th, 2006, 01:58 AM
Sssshhhh dont tell everyone about Lamaar's ,, we dont want any old riff raff going there :)

macc
October 18th, 2006, 10:46 AM
Sssshhhh dont tell everyone about Lamaar's ,, we dont want any old riff raff going there :)

Too late! I already have been there. :naughty:

highriser
November 15th, 2006, 01:33 AM
Steelwork for the new hotel on Shudehill is peeping over the fence now.,,i thought a crane would be going up here ,

highriser
November 19th, 2006, 04:16 PM
The hotel development on Shudehill/Swan St ,,

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1121.jpg?t=1163945665

SleepyOne
November 21st, 2006, 09:54 PM
Just to update the Northern Quarter thread.

The Hive

This development certainly sounds very Northern Quartery what with its offer aimed squarely at the media and creative industries. Not yet sure it looks very Northern Quartery, I'd have to see some more renders. But a very, very welcome shot in the arm for Stevenson Square.


http://i9.tinypic.com/2qa4k7m.jpg


Stephenson Square will be trendy

David Thame

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ContentResources/435.$plit/C_17_Articles_228685_BodyWeb_Detail_0_Image.jpg
ARGENT'S: An impression

STEPHENSON Square - described by one critic as "Manchester's least attractive and possibly most neglected square" - is to be revamped at last.

The square, in the Northern Quarter, long dominated by bus fumes and the rag trade, is to get a 145,000 sq ft office and leisure development to kick the area back into life.

Argent, the London-based developers behind the revamp of Piccadilly Gardens, have applied for planning permission for a new £35m building on the corner of Lever Street.

The first phase will total 75,000 sq ft and is due for completion in 2008. A second phase of 60,000 sq ft will follow.

Modern

The new building, to be called The hive, is intended to appeal to media, fashion and design businesses who want modern office space but either don't want or can't afford ordinary office blocks elsewhere in the city.

David Partridge, joint chief executive at Argent, explained: "We've done a lot of analysis of Manchester's strengths, and that's made us want to extend our property portfolio beyond the financial and professional services sector, who we catered for at No 1 Piccadilly Gardens where we won occupiers like the Bank of New York.

"The Hive is going to appeal to people who aren't into conventional office space, so we're going to make the building as flexible as possible so businesses can create whatever kind of office they want, and pretty much whatever size they want from 750 sq ft up to 10,000 sq ft. We'll also be using a green-friendly building specification which will mean lots of natural ventilation and natural light.

"We hope this is going to trigger a rebirth of Stephenson Square, and act as a catalyst for regeneration, just as our development at No 1 Piccadilly Gardens has done for the Piccadilly area."

SleepyOne
November 21st, 2006, 09:58 PM
Some interesting floral overcladding going on there.

Another major project for Manchester newcomers, HKR architects too to add to Chancery Place and a few others.

jrb
February 4th, 2007, 12:20 AM
Just to update the Northern Quarter thread.

The Hive

This development certainly sounds very Northern Quartery what with its offer aimed squarely at the media and creative industries. Not yet sure it looks very Northern Quartery, I'd have to see some more renders. But a very, very welcome shot in the arm for Stevenson Square.


http://i9.tinypic.com/2qa4k7m.jpg

Don't know if a link has been posted to the Hive (holding page) website yet? (below render)

Plus larger pic of the one above. Minus floral patterns.

http://www.argentgroup.plc.uk/gallery/images/the-hive-manchester-l.jpg

http://www.thehivemanchester.com/

URBANISER
February 4th, 2007, 02:00 PM
More white middle class stroll abouts. Different to the mix in the Holt Town renders! The more middle class strollers you see the more the city will have evolved economically and probably internationly. Look at cities in Europe, people of all ages go out in the centres at night because its attractive. Here its 90% 16-25 so older people feel marginalised. Its also a sign of a poor cultural entertainmant mix.

macc
February 15th, 2007, 07:45 PM
Just stumbled accross details of this, on YouTube of all places. Owned by Runcorn-based www.loutonvenues.com (info@loutonvenue.som).
Seems to be another independant (:cheer:), with this looking like their first venture. I'll email them tomorrow and see if they've got any info for us.

--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWE0JcyLWGY
"Seven Scorpions is a 7,000 sq ft brand new UK premier restaurant-bar in the heart of the Manchester's creative Northern Quarter. It is being positioned as the city-centre's No.1 exclusive venue. Suitable parties are invited to invest in this unique and exciting opportunity!"

--
http://www.sevenscorpions.com/Recruitment.htm
We are recruiting to fulfil the following positions ahead of our Manchester flagship opening in spring 2007:

Management
Senior Cook / Kitchen Manager
Senior Host / Hostess
Senior Bartender
Entertainments Manager

Kitchen
Cooks
Kitchen Porters

Floor
Host / Hostesses
Wait Staff

Bar
Bar Staff / Mixologists
Glass Collectors

Related correspondence & CV's should be directed to Louise Woodhead: recruitment@sevenscorpions.com

--

markydeedrop
February 15th, 2007, 10:08 PM
New pictures and website for the Maghull Dale Street development:

http://www.themetapartments.com/index.php

Mez
February 15th, 2007, 10:34 PM
i love that building. bout time it got sorted.

The Longford
February 15th, 2007, 10:45 PM
Art Deco? :blahblah: Whatever! Read a few books about C20th architecture first!

They look alright but they are well pokey (nothing new there) and you dont have any windows in you bedrooms - only a window onto the 'conservatory'.*
What they should have done is just offered them as new york style lofts and let buyers configure them themselves.

*they had to do that cos us heritage nazis wouldnt let them replace the windows. :lol:

macc
February 16th, 2007, 01:37 AM
Art Deco? :blahblah: Whatever! Read a few books about C20th architecture first!

They look alright but they are well pokey (nothing new there) and you dont have any windows in you bedrooms - only a window onto the 'conservatory'.*
What they should have done is just offered them as new york style lofts and let buyers configure them themselves.

*they had to do that cos us heritage nazis wouldnt let them replace the windows. :lol:

I Love this building.

Just looked at the floor plan on the site: Not knowing about this type of thing I realise some friends lived in a flat in this 'loggia' style in downtown Toronto. It must have been 20 stories up and had the best view. Everyone else iincluding me had to settle for living in characterful wooden shacks with no furniture, in the suburbs. I slept on an air bed for 6 months :( (the chicks loved it!)

The conservatory was impressive for views but they did say they rarely utilised it. Its too narrow. No windows in the bedroom didn't bother me. The feel of it just reminded me I was on floor 20. I certainly agree it would not be to everone's taste though.

The Longford
February 16th, 2007, 01:43 AM
The corner apartments look the best with the nice curved windows and no 'conservatories' or loggia or whatever.
If i was metrosexual apartment buyer (which i'm not!) i would probably choose this development over others simply because of the building its in - its a great looking building and i love the metal Crittal windows.

skymann
February 16th, 2007, 10:02 AM
i love that building. bout time it got sorted.

I love it in the same way I love Hulme Library (which it seems to be a replica of). In other words I hate it. It's so bland and square (in every sense of the word). I'm so glad it's hidden off the square and not on the square itself. The Arndale centre is an archirectural materpiece compared to this IMHO.

macc
February 20th, 2007, 12:18 AM
A new website for the northern quarter. Looks to be 4 mates doing it for the good of their own hearts, or something like that.

It under construction and has little content but the site looks pretty damn funky:

www.ilovenq.com

frozenmusic
February 20th, 2007, 04:23 AM
'Putting the style back into lifestyle' ok, I'm with you!
'Putting the deco back into decadence’ hmm, stretching it a bit, me thinks…
‘Putting the retail back into retail therapy’ what! That means nothing!

jrb
March 3rd, 2007, 01:34 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/OP.jpg

macc
March 9th, 2007, 12:07 PM
Note the word may reopen.

I Got excited about this when I first saw it but then realised that its nothing but publicity for their cause. The place has been applying for grants for ages and nothing has changed.

They wanted to buy the building behind and expand into it, I think. its falling down though, so that needs sorting first. This is a bit of a non-story really but anything that may help their plight is ok.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1001/1001445_return_of_band_on_the_wall.html

Return of Band On The Wall... (I prefer my title ^)
Paul R Taylor
9/ 3/2007

THE legendary Manchester live music venue Band On The Wall may reopen.

The historic club on Shude Hill - which has hosted acts including Desmond Dekker, Joy Division, The Buzzcocks, Mick Hucknall and Bjork - closed in 2005 after falling into disrepair.

A renovation project suffered several setbacks with costs spiralling to more than £6m but it is ready to be born again with the unveiling of £3.8m plans which include recording studios, mixed-media equipment, educational facilities and live performances available for download over the internet.

Earlier proposals have been streamlined and grant bids submitted to several funding bodies. Construction is planned to start in September, with the venue reopening in autumn 2008.

It was during the 1930s that owner Ernie Tyson literally put a band on the wall, with a drummer and accordion player on a small shelf, next to a piano, away from the flying fists and glasses.

By 1975, the people had moved away and the pub was in decline. It was saved by Steve Morris - a saxophonist and entrepreneur, who turned the pub into a jazz, blues and reggae venue, officially adopting its nickname, even though the band on the wall was long gone.

Inner City Music

Ian Croal, chief executive of owners and registered charity Inner City Music, said: "We are very much hopeful that Band On The Wall will reopen.

"Detailed proposals and a business plan have been submitted to Arts Council England, Manchester council and the Heritage Lottery Fund. We expect the three organisations to make decisions on the project by July."

The new project includes £700,000 from Manchester council. Mr Croal said: "This is about the rebirth of the venue, with new spaces, new facilities, new technology and new ideas. The main performance space will not be radically changed but will be enhanced, with heritage features conserved and audience capacity improved. We will have a multi-use public space, which we are calling the Picture House, in the Grade II adjacent building on Swan Street.

"It was built around 1865 and is believed to have become the first cine picture house in Manchester.

"We also plan to create a music archive - recordings or music and oral history interviews, images and materials. These will be available online and displayed in the Picture House, which we also see as a networking hub for the Northern Quarter and the city's creative industries, as well as a second performance space."

DO you have any interesting stories about Band On The Wall? Let us know your thoughts and check out our gallery above.

markydeedrop
March 25th, 2007, 08:43 AM
Few new NQ pictures taken 24/03/07 by myself.

Sevenoaks
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/040aa723.jpg

Bluu
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/802ccc9e.jpg

Rodeo
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/f7de1fc3.jpg

Crowne Plaza
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/041.jpg

timo
March 26th, 2007, 01:58 PM
new 'trof' bar opened in the NQ opposite bluu next door to TV 21's or whatever that place is called

it is well worth a look

Jonesy55
March 26th, 2007, 02:25 PM
I had a curry at This and That cafe on Soap St last Wednesday lunchtime, i've had gastroenteritis for five days now. :(

highriser
March 26th, 2007, 03:21 PM
So u dont recomend it then :)

SleepyOne
March 26th, 2007, 11:26 PM
Image of the Spear Street / Great Ancoats Street apartment block that is under construction.

Chapman Robinson architects
http://www.stridetreglown.co.uk/Architecture/images/residential/spearstreet1.jpg

SleepyOne
March 26th, 2007, 11:31 PM
Houldsworth Street / Great Ancoats Street proposal from Stephenson Bell.

Really exciting and bold looking proposal.

http://www.stephenson-bell.com/mi967.jpg

Houldsworth street
Awarded first prize in a limited competition, the project incorporates 67 apartments above a ground floor office, which has been designed to suit the particular requirements of the graphic designer client.

The site is located on the edge of the Manchester ring road. The concept is for a bifurcated building. One element facing the inner ring road is finished in a deep purple render that links to the heavy brick warehouses of Ancoats opposite. To minimise the noise and pollution of the road, apartments and balconies are protected by a screen of glass louvers.

The second element rises much higher, creating a single aspect apartment design to the top third of the scheme. This massing creates an elegant, slender tower that defines the edge of the Manchester urban area.

highriser
March 27th, 2007, 07:09 PM
I really like that one ,, Gt Ancoats St from Isilngton Wharf to Shudehill is going to change dramatically iff all these proposals come off ,

I see Brownfield Mill is getting renovated ,, is there any info on this ??

markydeedrop
March 27th, 2007, 07:21 PM
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/046adbfe.jpg

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http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/76596ebf.jpg

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http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/26d4b5b4.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/9415f3f9.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/044ebb7c.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/296ccfed.jpg

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http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/7be57517.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/d529f881.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/88606572.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/6e0868d7.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/28b53b37.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/40ed2bad.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/04b4a79f.jpg

SleepyOne
March 27th, 2007, 09:13 PM
Superb pictures. Really captured the essence of the Northern Quarter there Marky.

markydeedrop
March 27th, 2007, 09:27 PM
Thanks Sleepy. It's my favourite part of Manchester, very chilled and laid back. The colours of the buildings on a sunny day make photography fantastic. I'm not in CAWs league and only use a point and shoot camera, but glad you liked them.

BeardedGenius
March 27th, 2007, 11:53 PM
Houldsworth Street / Great Ancoats Street proposal from Stephenson Bell.

Really exciting and bold looking proposal.

http://www.stephenson-bell.com/mi967.jpg

That looks well smart that - love the purple

skymann
March 29th, 2007, 12:03 AM
Superb pictures. Really captured the essence of the Northern Quarter there Marky.

They are excellent photos. Like Ancoats and Castlefield the N/4 has that wonderful mix of old and new, large and small and mix of residential, commercial that really makes the area work. Wish all of Manchester good acheive this mix.

macc
March 30th, 2007, 01:26 PM
and another one :cheer:

whathappenedlastnight.net
21 - 31 Oldham Street,
M1 1JG,
Finally Moholive is another new venue planned for the Northern Quarter (can this area take any more?) on Oldham Street underneath the Ticketline offices. Related? Non, but obviously it’s very nice having alcohol served directly underneath where you work.

markydeedrop
April 1st, 2007, 12:01 AM
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/StevensonSq.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/SpaceInvader.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/Sign.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/Robot.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/RedDoor.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/OldhamSt.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/markydeedrop/GriffinHouse.jpg

Jonesy55
April 1st, 2007, 06:34 PM
Markydeedrop, I used some of your photos in my Manchester thread on the international forums, hope you don't mind :)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=12450177

markydeedrop
April 1st, 2007, 07:58 PM
No worries Jonesy!

Farsight
April 3rd, 2007, 02:41 AM
Houldsworth Street / Great Ancoats Street proposal from Stephenson Bell.

Really exciting and bold looking proposal.

http://www.stephenson-bell.com/mi967.jpg

I like it. Thanks for the picture, SleepyOne. I have to say though that it looks rather like a CJC clone.

markydeedrop
April 14th, 2007, 11:58 PM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/VoxPopMusicNorthernQuarterMancheste.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/NorthernQuarterUmbrellasManchester.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/OldhamStreetManchester.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/KingfisherFishChipsManchester.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/EarthCafeNorthernQuarterManchester.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/ThomasStreetNorthernQuarterManchest.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/OldhamStreetGulliversPub.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/LittleLeverStreetManchester.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/NorthernQuarterRundownBuildingManch.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/ConradDesignedBuildingManchester.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/ManchesterNorthernQuarterArt.jpg

Ephemera
April 15th, 2007, 12:31 AM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/ConradDesignedBuildingManchester.jpg


Can anybody tell me exactly what this cladding is? I've liked it for years now, I tend to like metal on the outside of buildings (like that big doorway on King Street). Though having said that, I bet you somebody now tells me it's not metal...


http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/ManchesterNorthernQuarterArt.jpg

Is that new? I've never seen it before, though it looks like the same style as the girl on the side of the Hotspur Press building on Chorlton Street (she made it onto / into a book, if I recall).

The Longford
April 15th, 2007, 12:46 AM
Can anybody tell me exactly what this cladding is? I've liked it for years now, I tend to like metal on the outside of buildings (like that big doorway on King Street). Though having said that, I bet you somebody now tells me it's not metal...


They are actually ceramic. You see them all over the place but they are usually the really nasty looking brick colour. You can get them in loads of different finishes - even wood.
These ones are ace though. I can take a tiny bit of credit for them as the heriatge nazis insisted on a non-red brick finish and ive always liked this 'industrial brick' look.

nerd
April 15th, 2007, 03:06 AM
They are actually ceramic. You see them all over the place but they are usually the really nasty looking brick colour. You can get them in loads of different finishes - even wood.
These ones are ace though. I can take a tiny bit of credit for them as the heriatge nazis insisted on a non-red brick finish and ive always liked this 'industrial brick' look.

by "ceramic", I presume you mean "terracotta".

Jonesy55
April 15th, 2007, 03:11 AM
"The word ceramic is derived from the Greek word κεραμικός (keramikos). The term covers inorganic non-metallic materials whose formation is due to the action of heat."

Terracotta is a ceramic but there are many others, saying that this building has ceramic cladding is certainly not incorrect.

SleepyOne
April 15th, 2007, 03:36 PM
These ones are ace though. I can take a tiny bit of credit for them as the heriatge nazis insisted on a non-red brick finish and ive always liked this 'industrial brick' look.

:master: Well done Heritage Nazis! Its a great little building. Love Conran's stuff.

The Longford
April 15th, 2007, 08:54 PM
by "ceramic", I presume you mean "terracotta".

No i dont because i dont think strictly it is. They are more sophisticated than terracotta and as i said come in all types of finishes and are much more resiliant to weather / acid rain / staining etc etc. than 'traditional' terracotta.
I actually usually really hate them (especially the terracotta looking ones) because they look cheap and are usually really shoddily hung but these are good.

SleepyOne
April 17th, 2007, 12:45 AM
Two images of the new Crowne Plaza hotel that is currently under construction in the Northern Quarter



http://www.cpmanchester.com/main_pic.jpg



http://www.shepherd-gilmour.co.uk/newsimages/L(00)32%20copy.jpg


http://www.cpmanchester.com/

BeardedGenius
April 17th, 2007, 11:40 AM
Two images of the new Crowne Plaza hotel that is currently under construction in the Northern Quarter



http://www.cpmanchester.com/main_pic.jpg



http://www.shepherd-gilmour.co.uk/newsimages/L(00)32%20copy.jpg


http://www.cpmanchester.com/

I've always liked this one. I hope they keep the 'the manchester' signage and name.

jrb
April 28th, 2007, 01:11 AM
Could have already been posted?

7 storey office block for the NQ.

OEA Architects.

http://www.oea.org.uk/index2.php

BeardedGenius
April 28th, 2007, 01:37 PM
Could have already been posted?

7 storey office block for the NQ.

OEA Architects.

http://www.oea.org.uk/index2.php

That's cool - very NQ...

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6914/nqry8.jpg

macc
April 30th, 2007, 04:13 PM
A hear the new Trof bar in the Northern Quarter has been so successful that despite only being open for a few months there's already talk about opening a 3rd establishment.

Surely its too early to have got any further than bar room banter at this stage though.

hopo
May 1st, 2007, 01:47 AM
i love the northern quarter it is such a fantastic area of the city with such a unique vibe. it is a shame that so few ppl get to it really many are totaly unaware of it.

being a artist myself... (of a kind) i would like to see more street art round here im currently making a few enquires as to gettin sum graffiti done that is sympathetic to the enviroment as it really can have such a positive impact.

those charicters refered to on hotspur house are kid acne, a lester shefield connection there not sure bout the others but there are plenty of v talented writers in the city with noware to go. We need sum good graff walls!!!! but thats a difrent topic

roobarb!
May 1st, 2007, 11:25 AM
i love the northern quarter it is such a fantastic area of the city with such a unique vibe. it is a shame that so few ppl get to it really many are totaly unaware of it.

So few? Last time I was in the Northern Quarter it took me five bars before I could find one with enough room for me to get through the front door, let alone find a seat! :cheers:

I count the new Trof in that number, too. I was in on the day after it opened - all very cosy and quite peaceful. It's pretty much permanently rammed now! I wouldn't be surprised if they're pondering a third...

SleepyOne
May 11th, 2007, 08:44 PM
July start for The Hive?

http://www.glenigan.com/news/asp/projectdetailpage.asp?pid=DR3320061123002


http://www.building.co.uk/Pictures/436xAny/p/o/f/the_hive_2.jpg


HKR granted planning for Manchester 'Hive'
3 May, 2007

By Nargess Shahmanesh-Banks

Architect’s design for £11.5m sustainable office building has been given go ahead by Manchester City Council

HKR Architects' plans for Phase 1 of The Hive in Manchester have been granted planning permission by Manchester City Council.

The £11.5 million, 75,000 sq ft sustainable office building on Stevenson Square in Manchester’s Northern Quarter is being buit for client Argent.

The proposed scheme forms part of a wider masterplan produced by HKR in early 2006 for two key sites adjacent to Stevenson Square.

HKR said The Hive was aimed at Manchester's creative industries.

SleepyOne
May 26th, 2007, 03:02 PM
Propertyweek article on The Lighthouse

Leisure to ignite Manchester’s Light House
18.05.07

http://www.propertyweek.com/Pictures/316xAny/u/o/u/20_pp107_light_house.jpg

Plans have been unveiled for retail and leisure space in the heart of Manchester’s Northern Quarter.

Advertisement
Stonehurst Estates, the developer building the £32m Light House scheme in Church Street, believes that a 14,000 sq ft restaurant and delicatessen-style operator could anchor the commercial part of the project, which will be spread across three floors of the building.

The Light House is designed by Sir Terence Conran’s architecture and design practice, Conran & Partners.

It features a 20-storey glass and steel residential tower above the retail space, and Manchester City Council’s planners have designated it as the tallest building in the Northern Quarter.

The retail and leisure plans comprise a 4,000 sq ft restaurant on the ground floor and a 2,500 sq ft one on the lower-ground floor, which could be linked to the restaurant above or let separately.


Conran has also designed a 4,000 sq ft shop on the ground floor and a second 3,500 sq ft shop on the first floor.

The Light House is on the site of the former Pall Mall House and Coliseum Shopping Centre, opposite legendary fashion emporium Afflecks Palace.

It is a mixture of new build and the restoration of the 1920s buildings to maintain many original features.

Conran has designed a 67 metre, 20-storey glass and stainless steel tower to fill the gap between two refurbished and extended existing buildings with 169 flats.

CB Richard Ellis is the letting agent on the scheme.

SleepyOne
May 27th, 2007, 04:34 PM
Is this an aplication for the long awaited rebirth of the Band on the Wall venue?

082671/LO/2007/C1

29 Swan Street
Manchester
M4 5JZ

LISTED BUILDING CONSENT internal and external alterations including new shop front and entrance, reinstatement of rooflight, construction of box office, refurbishment/repair of building fabric (stonework and slate roof) to allow use of premises as a live music venue (D1) at ground floor with ancillary office accommodation above (B1)

http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=JFNYRDBC24000&searchtype=WEEKLY

and

082577/FO/2007/C1

27 To 29 Swan Street
Manchester
M4 5JZ

Elevational alterations including rear extension, new shop front, reinstatement of existing roof light, installation of plant equipment to facilitate use of both premises for a mixed (sui generis) use development comprising use class D2 (music and concert venue) use class D1 ( non residential education and training) A4 (bar) A3 (restaurant/cafe) B1 (ancillary office accommodation) and A1 (shop)

http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=JFB1QKBC90000&searchtype=WEEKLY



http://www.bandonthewall.org/

The Longford
May 27th, 2007, 06:40 PM
Thats the former (listed) cinema building next door which i believe BOTW want to extend in to.

highriser
June 9th, 2007, 05:44 PM
Crown Plaza on Shudehill ,, one of the cranes are now down .

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1456.jpg?t=1181400173

Nacho
June 9th, 2007, 06:00 PM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/VoxPopMusicNorthernQuarterMancheste.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/NorthernQuarterUmbrellasManchester.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/OldhamStreetManchester.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/KingfisherFishChipsManchester.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/EarthCafeNorthernQuarterManchester.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/ThomasStreetNorthernQuarterManchest.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/OldhamStreetGulliversPub.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/LittleLeverStreetManchester.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/NorthernQuarterRundownBuildingManch.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/ConradDesignedBuildingManchester.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/ManchesterNorthernQuarterArt.jpg

A really nice collection of photos.The area looks really good and that green pub looks very inviting

ferge
June 9th, 2007, 09:03 PM
My hatred of mass image quoting is beginning to rile up again, I mean why?! WHY!!!

Mez
June 9th, 2007, 09:31 PM
hahaha. thought the exact same thing.

ThomH
June 9th, 2007, 09:53 PM
A really nice collection of photos.The area looks really good and that green pub looks very inviting

Bless your heart, that's Gullivers!

Inviting? Well, yes, maybe. It is not as bad as some of the pubs in the area, but saying it's inviting would possibly be stretching it. The Northern Quarter has always frittered out into some fairly touch residential areas (Ancoats, New Cross, Collyhurst, Miles Platting, Beswick, Bradford etc etc) and it still (just about) remains intrinsically linked to it's adjacent areas, in a way that - for example - the Southern edge of the city centre doesn't.

That means the pubs (and takeaways) of the Northern Quarter have historically been the strip for the denizens of Ancoats and beyond. Drinking on Oldham St felt like drinking on the high st/market street of their own small town community. Walk in any of these pubs with someone who is from the area (my business partner is born and bred Beswick, parents from Ancoats, girlfriend from Collyhurst) and it's staggering how the community is still here, in spite of the Northern Quarter regeneration, and that can sometimes make the pubs a bit... "rum".

Gullivers is still a proper East Manchester pub, and still gets a real mixed bag of ruffians and criminals as well as a hard core of oldies who love to warble away at the near constant karaoke to something like Danny Boy. I wouldn't say it is scary pub (for that see The King in it's heydey - or certainly before the guy from the Comedy Store does a "gastro" job on it - or maybe still The Nelson or the Land 'o' cakes or whatever it's now called) but I don't find it as mixed or eclectic as something like The Castle.

On a similar note I see The City is getting a refurb? Nice frontage on that place, and of course the story is that the last landlady torched it as an insurance job and almost burned herself to death in the process. Hospital, then prison in quick succession. They seem to be reinstating the original frontage as I'm imagining it was protected in some way? Not sure what remains of the interior, or indeed what they will be obligated to keep/replace. My money is on it returning to just being a pint and peanuts boozer, but a) i may be suprised and b) don't knock pints and peanuts.

Cheers

Thom

Architecty
June 9th, 2007, 11:25 PM
My hatred of mass image quoting is beginning to rile up again, I mean why?! WHY!!!

hahaha. thought the exact same thing.
Another simple but very frustrating thing that a pro active mod could sort

markydeedrop
June 10th, 2007, 02:04 AM
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/042-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/044-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u180/markydeedroppics/043-1.jpg

SleepyOne
July 10th, 2007, 10:54 PM
Band on the Wall news as posted in the bars and clubs thread. Another small piece of N/4 is nursed back to life.


£3m windfall for BOTW
Chris Osuh
10/ 7/2007


http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/664.$plit/C_71_article_1010924_image_list_image_list_item_0_image.jpg?09/07/2007 18:02:03:175


THE legendary Band on the Wall nightclub is to be reborn after winning a £3.2m jackpot.

In nearly 70 golden years of gigs, Band on the Wall was at the heart of Manchester's live music scene and its loss was mourned by concert-goers when it closed in 2005.

Now, it has been awarded a £3.2m in Arts Council and lottery grants to enshrine its legacy and secure a great future.

Licensed premises have been at the Swan Street site since 1803. But it wasn't until 1937 that the venue earned its unique name, when the landlord installed a stage set high up on the wall for jazz bands to play on.

In the years that followed, artists as diverse as hard-bop bandleader Art Blakey, Velvet Underground chanteuse Nico, reggae production genius Lee Perry, monster raving looney Screamin' Lord Sutch and folksters Pentangle graced its stage.

And it cemented its legendary status by giving local talent an intimate place to play, helping to build the city's reputation as a pop powerhouse.

Joy Division played several of their earliest gigs there, while Mick Hucknall, then a flame-haired rocker, would play the venue with quirky outfit the Frantic Elevators before hitting the big time with Simply Red.

The massive grant will allow the venue to continue the tradition of nurturing the city's hopefuls. A state-of-the-art studio and video equipment will be installed so young bands and established artists alike can make demos, downloads and live recordings.

Five-year project

An archive about Band on the Wall and the artists it has played host to will be created in a five-year-project, while the building next-door, thought to have been Manchester's first cinema, will transformed into the Picturehouse, a new space for music, film and learning.

The millions will also pay for a new soundsystem, while the buildings historic features will be painstakingly restored to their old-time grandeur. Community and disabled facilities will also be improved, bringing the venue into the 21st century.

Ian Croal, Chief Executive of Inner City Music, the registered charity that runs Band on the Wall, says: "We are delighted with the Arts Council's and Heritage Lottery Fund's support of our project to reopen a much enhanced Band on the Wall.

"Together with the generous support of Manchester Council, these grants will enable us to provide Manchester and the UK with an international stage for the best music from around the world and a platform for the finest local talent. We will also develop the venue as a resource for music education and professional development.

"The grants recognise the important role the venue has played in the musical life of Manchester over several decades, in addition to contributing to its growing future role."

Peter Hewitt, Chief Executive of Arts Council England, hailed Band on the Wall as an `excellent example of Manchester's unique musical heritage', while Peter Fellows of the Heritage Lottery fund, said it was great to give the concert hall `its beat back'.

The total project is worth £4m. The council has put in £500,000, and a mystery donor has added a `substantial' amount. Work will begin in January 2008 and will re-open later that year, or early in 2009. The Heritage Lottery fund has also helped revamped Gorton Monastery and the John Rylands library.



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Sir Miles Platting
July 10th, 2007, 11:30 PM
^^ that last pic brings back some memories. Notice all the US airforce lads?

Manchester was the favoured destination for the American servicemen from Burtonwood during the 1950's. Any large pub with lot's of gals and live music would do but a lot of them used to drift into the Gaumont Long Bar on Oxford street, it was designed like an authentic US bar--long as hell but the big drawing card was the dozens of (high-class) prostitutes in the place.

The officers used to go to the 'proper' nite-clubs like the Cromford Court, the famous Cabaret Club, (a big favourite of Ella Fitzgerald and Frank Sinatra late night after doing gigs at the free-trade hall. Mr. Smiths was another yankee haunt into the wee small hours.

The city was less dangerous in those times although occasionally drunk yanks were rolled by Teddy-boys for their spivvy blue gabardine macs! :angel: :cool:

jrb
July 10th, 2007, 11:35 PM
Just incase the link hasn't been posted yet.

http://www.bandonthewall.org/

pookgai
July 13th, 2007, 05:37 PM
They are actually ceramic. You see them all over the place but they are usually the really nasty looking brick colour. You can get them in loads of different finishes - even wood.
These ones are ace though. I can take a tiny bit of credit for them as the heriatge nazis insisted on a non-red brick finish and ive always liked this 'industrial brick' look.

That's my old apartment (4th floor with the balcony on the right)... If only I could have brought it to London with me!

heatonparkincakes
July 14th, 2007, 04:39 PM
In a fairly crap week for the 60 inches / 1.5 metres of irish feminine joy that warms my bed every night, the botw news has certainly cheered her up

Its should be a real addition to the northern q, and I hope it leds to the surrounding area at New Cross being spruced up.

macc
July 16th, 2007, 02:48 PM
New bar opened called Bar Fifty 7, next to Drip (same owners) on Tariff Street, and near Lamarrs. Not been yet, but will do soon.

MEN review: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/entertainment/s/1011/1011219_bar_review_of_the_week_bar_fifty_7.html

Great news about Band On the Wall by the way. I wasn't expecting them to get the money as they've been after it for ages (and its a lot to ask for).

GShutty
July 16th, 2007, 04:32 PM
New bar opened called Bar Fifty 7, next to Drip (same owners) on Tariff Street, and near Lamarrs. Not been yet, but will do soon.

MEN review: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/entertainment/s/1011/1011219_bar_review_of_the_week_bar_fifty_7.html

Great news about Band On the Wall by the way. I wasn't expecting them to get the money as they've been after it for ages (and its a lot to ask for).

Bar 57 is decent though a little lacking in character, or mroe to the ppoint soul, but it's a new place and that will develope.

A new bar is due to open/ subject to licence approval on Turner St, next to the Buddhist Centre called Walrus.

Norb
July 19th, 2007, 11:51 AM
Is it me, or is Walrus a funny name for a buddhist centre?

GShutty
July 19th, 2007, 04:20 PM
Is it me, or is Walrus a funny name for a buddhist centre?

Apparently it stands for Well-being And Lifestyle Retreat for Urban Serenity.

macc
July 22nd, 2007, 07:05 PM
I'm not sure whats there at the moment and how much is planned to be made of the building but it looks like there's big changes ahead for Marlsbro house on Newton Street. This is the building with the 'chess board' type design on the external walls. See here for a pic and more info: http://thebelinwall.com/

The venue section of the site says the building has/will have "Dance studios, Creative Space, Photo Studios, Galleries, Recording Studios, Internet Cafe & Design Studio, are just a few things the building has to offer."

The Belin Wall project is basically convering the wall in the work of professional grafitti artists, who have showcase their work all over Europe. You may remeber the from this years Euro cultured festival. Sounds a fantastic way to brighten up a dull part of the NQ.

:: Photo realistic graffiti with twists of old skool spray can creation!!!.
http://www.belinurbanart.com/images/montagetop.jpg

Also I went to that bar fifty 7 last night. Its ok but lacking in character and feels a little half complete. When they get a bit of cash they will hopefully extend the row of booths all the way across the wall and accessorize the place a bit more.

There's a fantastic little courtyard out the back (you can see it through the window) which unfortunately is the entrance to fourways house, offices. Its a shame they didn't have access via the rear door to that. A few tables out there would give it a unique angle and it would really make the bar. Will never happen though.

jrb
August 2nd, 2007, 10:25 PM
One crazy idea: The Department Store

http://www.manchesterconfidential.co.uk/property/images/20070731pink.jpg

Wendy Jones on going it alone with a DIY development in the city centre


Jonathan asks Wendy Jones how she got started with The Department Store? What was the outcome? Would she do it again, oh and was she out of her mind?

In the beginning it all started with fear. The fear of having to move to the suburbs.

We had all spent years working for the Northern Quarter Association. Our businesses had suffered: one had gone completely but we were beginning to see the long awaited improvement in the area and wanted to make sure that we would be staying around to enjoy it.

We were, and still are, five friends: Liam Curtin, Janine Hague, Wendy Jones, Jonathan Keenan and Michael Trainor. In spite of the doom and gloom warnings from the Cassandras that it would end in tears and recriminations and was bound to be a disaster, we decided to soldier on and find our own property. That we are still friends show that we must have got something right.

We knew we wanted a building, and that it would be for artists and arts industries. It was Manchester architect and designer, Dominic Sagar who located the right property for us.

It had been the Richard Wood wholesale clothing warehouse for the last fifty years (the oldest part dates back to 1795) and they were moving out of town - the only good thing (for us) that came out of the draconian parking laws.

It took us a year to complete the purchase, mainly I think, because we could not quite believe what we were doing, and the Allied Irish bank also could not quite believe that they were letting us.

We did learn later that they regarded it a risky experiment, but they are very pleased with us now. We did nearly lose it to Sir Neil Westbrook, the local property magnate, who was keen to add it to his often crumbling empire. Seriously unashamed grovelling saved the day and we completed on 1 April 1999 which somehow seemed appropriate. We drank champagne to celebrate in a rosy glow, with no idea of what was in front of us.

It was a lovely building, but hopeless for commercial use as it was, filled with lots of small rooms and what seemed like a million staircases. We preserved as much as possible however, and have kept the atmosphere of age and history. Many of the studios have high ceilings and exposed beams and columns, now of course serving the comforts we all need today.

The work took literally years, and we all nearly starved in the process. We managed the project between us, and learned so much that it seems a waste not to do it again. But some of our little band would rather be impaled on a rusty railing than repeat the experience, while others would do it again tomorrow (or today).

Now though, it’s done, and we have lovely tenants, artists, photographers and arts organisations, most of whom have been here through thick and thin. This involved building works, leaking roofs and the general mess of conversion, and we survived it all - even enjoyed some of it..er..I think.

So where are we? Can't miss us really. We're in the heart of the Northern Quarter, corner of Oak Street and Thomas Street. Oh and the building is bright pink. Our pride and joy is the roof garden which is used by everyone in the building, and is a rare treat in a city with so few green spaces, We also made a dedicated meeting room which is used by tenants and can also be hired by outside organisations. The building is currently fully let, but in August we will have one office space and one retail space to find new bodies to fill so if you're interested in joining us give us a call.

So in the end we did what we set out to do. We stayed in the Northern Quarter and nobody moved to the 'burbs.

markydeedrop
August 12th, 2007, 01:09 AM
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jrb
August 17th, 2007, 10:18 AM
16 storey for the NQ?

New tower plan
Ciara Leeming
17/ 8/2007


PLANS have been drawn up for a new 16-storey tower in the Northern Quarter of Manchester.

Architects Hodder Associates have spent two years working on plans for the corner of Great Ancoats Street, Swan Street and Oldham Road - and now they are almost ready to have them formally registered by the council.

The site and its derelict buildings is owned by a mystery London developer.

If the new plans are put forward and approved, it will be turned into 95 flats and ground-level shops.

Hodder's design would feature a 16-floor tower on the Ancoats side of the development. The back and sides of the tower would be shorter - with part of it just three storeys and a third section rising to five.

The firm has held early consultations with residents of the nearby Smithfield estate and has spoken to English Heritage.

It says people's views are being taken into account - and details such as car parking and refuse collection points have been altered as a result.

The proposals have been lodged with Manchester city council but have yet to be formally registered.

Unique

Principle architect Stephen Hodder said: "This is not just a slab tower block - it would be more complicated than that.

"I like to think we are sensitive architects and that we recognise the unique qualities of the Northern Quarter.

"To try to allay residents' concerns, we did a sun-path analysis to see whether the tower would cast a shadow.

"It would fall on the other side from the estate, and the flats there would not be overlooked by anyone.

"At the moment, this site is an eyesore, but we want to turn it into something which is commercially successful and worthy of an important route into Manchester."

Views

But neighbours in Smithfield have mixed views. One, Carolyn Merrick, said: "From what I have heard, and the images I have seen, it sounds like this building would be out of keeping with the area.

"The Northern Quarter is creative and bohemian, but this isn't a sympathetic design.

"There are a lot of flats around here already, and now they want more. There are enough empty shops already. I just can't see how it will work."

Pat Glazebrook, secretary of Smithfield Residents Association, also said there were concerns about the development.

What do you think of the plans? Have your say below.



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skyhigh247
August 17th, 2007, 03:18 PM
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1013/1013777_new_tower_plan.html

Flogging Molly
August 17th, 2007, 03:33 PM
Scrap this - on northern quarter thread. :)

Chogmook
August 17th, 2007, 03:45 PM
Tower? 16 storeys? Merely a mid rise!

skyhigh247
August 17th, 2007, 03:47 PM
Tower? 16 storeys? Merely a mid rise!

If/when it's built, hang over the edge of it and then say the same!! :lol:

b4mmy
August 17th, 2007, 04:49 PM
Scrap this - on northern quarter thread. :)

merged, but this will probably have a thread of it's own when it goes to planning...

I LOVE NQ
August 21st, 2007, 11:33 PM
I LOVE NQ are backing this incredible project set to take place later on this year.

The whole project will involve totally wrapping a 5 storey building in Photo Realistic art, that will be seen from miles around.

It will replace the focus that has been lost, the focus that the Northern Quarter is center for all things CREATIVE!!!

If you feel that you have something to give, and can help in any way to get the permissions needed, then first check out :: www.thebelinwall.com

then email Belin Urban Art to find out how u can help.
info@belinurbanart.com

Thanks for reading

NQ
http://ilovenq.com/blog

I LOVE NQ
August 21st, 2007, 11:35 PM
THE BELIN WALL PETITION!! STARTS NOW!!!
I LOVE NQ are backing this incredible project set to take place later on this year.

The whole project will involve totally wrapping a 5 storey building in Photo Realistic art, that will be seen from miles around.

It will replace the focus that has been lost, the focus that the Northern Quarter is center for all things CREATIVE!!!

If you feel that you have something to give, and can help in any way to get the permissions needed, then first check out :: www.thebelinwall.com

then email Belin Urban Art to find out how u can help.
info@belinurbanart.com

Thanks for reading

NQ
http://ilovenq.com/blog

I LOVE NQ
August 21st, 2007, 11:36 PM
THE BELIN WALL PETITION!! STARTS NOW!!!
I LOVE NQ are backing this incredible project set to take place later on this year.

The whole project will involve totally wrapping a 5 storey building in Photo Realistic art, that will be seen from miles around.

It will replace the focus that has been lost, the focus that the Northern Quarter is center for all things CREATIVE!!!

If you feel that you have something to give, and can help in any way to get the permissions needed, then first check out :: www.thebelinwall.com

then email Belin Urban Art to find out how u can help.
info@belinurbanart.com

Thanks for reading

NQ
http://ilovenq.com/blog

I LOVE NQ
August 21st, 2007, 11:38 PM
THE BELIN WALL PROJECT PETITION!! STARTS NOW!!!
I LOVE NQ are backing this incredible project set to take place later on this year.

The whole project will involve totally wrapping a 5 storey building in Photo Realistic art, that will be seen from miles around.

It will replace the focus that has been lost, the focus that the Northern Quarter is center for all things CREATIVE!!!

If you feel that you have something to give, and can help in any way to get the permissions needed, then first check out :: www.thebelinwall.com

then email Belin Urban Art to find out how u can help.
info@belinurbanart.com

Thanks for reading

NQ
http://ilovenq.com/blog

highriser
August 22nd, 2007, 12:30 AM
Was that an echo :laugh:

Marlbro House , vile building they can cover it in anything they like , hope they flatten bloody thing in im being honest

markydeedrop
September 23rd, 2007, 02:43 AM
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jrb
November 2nd, 2007, 03:44 AM
Three architects compete for MCR site destroyed by fire

MCR Property Group has short-listed three architects to design a replacement for its Dale Street, Manchester building destroyed by fire in April.

Hodder Associates, Reid Architects and Glenn Howells Architects will submit designs for a residential building on the site. The original building was 25,000 sq ft over six floors and was being renovated into offices when the fire occurred.

MCR, which owns a number of other buildings in the Piccadilly area, acquired the Grade II-listed building last year. Insurers reportedly valued the destroyed project at around £30m.

The winning design is expected to be announced at the end of October. Andy Phillips, of MCR Property, said: "This is an extremely important site for us and for Piccadilly - an area that is currently experiencing a great deal of regeneration and investment - and we are anxious to ensure that the new scheme complements the surrounding architecture.

Phillips continues: "We have liaised closely with Manchester City Council to decide on the best course of action for the redevelopment of the site, which we agreed would now be suited to residential. All three architect practices have excellent reputations and have previously designed buildings within Manchester city centre. We are very excited about this new challenge and look forward to seeing the final proposals."

Comdot
November 2nd, 2007, 08:24 PM
what a convenient fire!

highriser
November 2nd, 2007, 10:55 PM
what a convenient fire!

We cant go on together , with suspicious minds :)

Comdot
November 3rd, 2007, 07:11 PM
Someone I know bought a fire damaged house at auction. The fire was started by someone else that knew it was going to auction, that wanted to buy it. Ironically friend outbid him.

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November 24th, 2007, 11:33 PM
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markydeedrop
December 7th, 2007, 09:06 PM
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jrb
January 23rd, 2008, 09:09 PM
Fragile future for Glassworks scheme?
By Simon Binns


Administrators have been appointed at CLH Holdings Limited & CLH (Manchester) Ltd – a pair of Bolton-based companies behind an approved scheme to develop 72 apartments and a commercial unit at the Glassworks in Manchester’s Northern Quarter.

Matthew Bowker and Chris Ratten from Tenon Recovery North West have been appointed as joint administrators and are looking for buyers for the site. All 72 proposed apartments had been pre-sold to individual buyers.

Bowker said: “CLH Holdings Limited and CLH (Manchester) Limited had received planning permission for a £12m multi-purpose development. A combination of significant development issues, escalating building costs and a loss of market confidence caused funders to call in the debt.

“It would be wrong to believe that CLH will be the last or largest property related casualty of 2008. The UK’s commercial property sector is under pressure, and this will only increase as lenders review the value of their portfolios.”

jrb
January 24th, 2008, 08:33 PM
Jitters shatter £12m dream
Kevin Feddy
24/ 1/2008

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A £12m development scheme in Manchester's up-and-coming Northern Quarter has fallen victim to the crisis of confidence gripping the world's money markets, potentially leaving investors nursing heavy losses.

Property entrepreneur Justin Molloy, 38, planned to build 72 flats and shops at The Glassworks in Ancoats (pictured).

All the apartments, priced at between £140,000 and £180,000, were sold in advance of work starting on the site, and buy-to-let investors handed over deposits totalling more than £500,000.

The contractor selected to do the work went bust last year, and Mr Molloy tried to find another builder.

But fresh costings for the scheme soared by around 40 per cent and made it no longer commercially viable. Now the project's bridging finance provider has pulled the plug.

A question mark hangs over the future of the investors' deposits. They are likely to be repaid only if a buyer is found for the site.

Matthew Bowker and Chris Ratten, of Tenon Recovery North West, based in Bolton, have been appointed joint administrators of the development companies, CLH Holdings and CLH (Manchester).

Mr Bowker said: "CLH Holdings and CLH (Manchester) had received planning permission for a high-quality £12m multi-purpose development.

"A combination of significant development issues, escalating building costs and a loss of market confidence caused funders to call in the debt.

Early route

"They could not see an early route to getting their money back.

"It's an indication of how the credit crunch and market conditions are making people nervous."

And he warned: "It would be wrong to believe that CLH will be the last, or largest, property-related casualty of 2008.

"The UK's commercial property sector is under pressure, and this will only increase as lenders review the value of their portfolios."

Mr Molloy said today he was aiming to buy back the site and submit a revised scheme which was more cost-effective.

He told the M.E.N.: "The building contractor going bust has caused a domino effect. Our bridging finance provider was not prepared to give us any more time.

"But I am driving forward and have arranged a meeting with planners to come up with a new scheme which is commercially viable, will protect investors and the professional team who have worked tirelessly alongside us, and continue the regeneration of the area."

He said he had lost a substantial sum of his own money, but declined to say how much, adding: "It's set me back 10 years personally."

chasedwar
January 24th, 2008, 11:32 PM
If you read into this, it was more to do with the main building contractor going bust than the credit crunch.
Other quotes were 40% higher, maybe thats why the contractor went bust :) they must have been quoting too cheap and losing money on every job.

Thats why developers should always pay the market price and go with a proper builder.

I wonder if the investors will ever see their deposits again?

SleepyOne
January 24th, 2008, 11:38 PM
It was this one. Neat little Stephenson-Bell design.

http://www.aboutproperty.co.uk/photo/arkle-3-$7006441$180.jpg

Its been kicking about for a few years. I wondered why it hadn't made it on site.

markydeedrop
January 26th, 2008, 07:14 PM
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Comdot
January 26th, 2008, 10:37 PM
is the food sexy then marky?

GShutty
January 27th, 2008, 10:37 PM
is the food sexy then marky?

I don't know about Marky, but I think the foods great! A real Manchester Gem.

highriser
February 6th, 2008, 01:25 AM
When this carpark get developed i hope they relocate this sculpture somewhere else in the NQ

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Comdot
February 6th, 2008, 01:45 AM
took a few pics of NQ and surrounding areas- http://www.nickgrayson.net/Gallery/Manchester's_Northern_Quarter_etc/index.htm

lots of pretty basic stuff, like this here
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and
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^^ i like the way they've given it a shiny new atrium but left the rest of the building untouched. hmm. bit strange.

macc
February 17th, 2008, 12:51 PM
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1036901_carnival_pledge_for_northern_quarter

THE first Northern Quarter Festival has been announced for the Spring Bank Holiday.

The three-day MAPS event - short for Music, Art, Poetry and Stuff - promises to warm up the creative heart of the city centre with a fully fledged carnival atmosphere.

Five of Manchester's best-known arts and music co-ordinators have joined forces to organise the event over the weekend of May 23-25.

There will be more than 150 gigs over three days at a range of Northern Quarter venues, as well as poetry readings, comedy and art plus street stalls, buskers and other entertainers.

The festival's aim, say organisers, is to support and promote music, art and creativity while getting the public involved.

They say events will be aimed at both people who work and live in the Northern Quarter and people who have never explored that part of the city centre.

Local artist Stan Chow has created promotional material for the festival, `indie, electro and rock and roll' DJs Up The Racket are providing music, and local shops - such as Mr Scruff's Cup café on Thomas Street - are contributing with special festival offers.

Organisers also aim to fill venues with fashion markets, club dancers, circus acts and face-painters.

With three days and 12 venues full of music, MAPS promises to be one of the year's best truly locally-organised festivals, promoters claim.

Spokesman Alex McCann said: "The entire Northern Quarter will turn into a carnival for three days and nights.

"There will be lots going on outside of the music too - something for everyone, no matter what their age.

"This is the first festival of its kind on this scale in the area and it promises to be lots of fun, if not a huge task to organise."

Organisers say they are working with tourism chiefs to make sure the festival is properly promoted outside the city.

Day tickets and weekend passes are planned for the festival's main events and will be available soon from www.ticketline.co.uk

For more information on the festival check out www.myspace.com/mapsfestival.

highriser
February 28th, 2008, 09:36 PM
Band on the Wall refurb as started .


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/100_1839.jpg?t=1204227264

man med
February 28th, 2008, 10:49 PM
Wont be the same though - when it reopens after all this time

Chogmook
February 28th, 2008, 10:53 PM
But at least it'll be open!

flange
March 3rd, 2008, 03:06 PM
Skyscraper may take the place of failed apartments project

60 investors have lost a total of £449,000 on Glassworks scheme

By Simon Binns

A developer wants to build a 20-storey skyscraper on the site of CLH Holding's failed Glassworks residential scheme in Manchester city centre, according to a lender to the original project.

Investors stand to lose almost £500,000 through the collapse of CLH Holdings, based in Bolton. The company was placed into administration in January after it defaulted on a bridging loan payment owed to Cheshire-based Penmarric Plc, controlled by former Bodycote chairman Joe Dwek and his family. CLH Holdings had just one director, Justin Molloy, and Bolton-based Tenon Recovery was brought in to run the business.

However, CLH Holdings had already collected deposits of 7.5 per cent from 60 investors for 72 apartments in the Marshall Street scheme, totalling £449,117. These investors now look certain to lose their money.

Dwek told Crain's that a new buyer was lined up for the site, but it would not see Penmarric recoup all of the £2.4m loan provided to CLH Holdings.

20-storey skyscraper

“It looks like we'll probably lose around 15 per cent,” he said. “But our chances of getting some of the money back are reasonably good. There is an offer in from a large Manchester-based development company which wants to build a 20-storey skyscraper with residential, retail and leisure. They are very keen and are looking to submit plans soon.”

Dwek said that the offer for the site was around the £2m mark, but would not confirm an exact figure. The property had been marketed with Sanderson Weatherall for £1.5m, but in the administrator's document, Tenon had estimated realising £2.2m from the sale of the site.

However, one disgruntled investor, who asked not to be named, complained that the developer and agents had not told him of problems with the site when he raised concerns late last year.

He now stands to lose around £11,000, but larger investors, especially a number based in Ireland, will lose up to £50,000.

The investor, who works in Manchester city centre, decided to buy into the scheme last summer, but was concerned about the slow progress on site.

“I got the impression things weren't going to plan towards the end of last year,” he said. “It was supposed to be finished in summer 2008, but when nothing was happening between August and November, it was obvious something was up. But the agents kept fobbing us off, and told us that the finance was in place and everything was fine, but the developer was just changing contractors. I found myself in a tricky situation in November, as I was told I had to pay another 2.5 per cent on top of the initial five per cent I'd already paid, or my contract on the development would have been defaulted and I'd have lost my money anyway. So I paid, thinking everything was on track.”

The investor now stands to lose around £11,000. “It's obviously money we could have done without losing,” he said. “I know the area and it looked like a smaller development with a bit more potential. I'm really disappointed.”

Dwek said that the original scheme was flawed, but that investors could have taken the decision to abandon their interest sooner. “I think that Mr Molloy didn't really think the scheme through,” he said. “It wasn't really viable for that site.

“I feel sorry for the investors who have lost money, but they had only put a deposit down, and could have walked away at any time and written it off to experience if they felt the scheme wasn't going to plan.”

Tenon Recovery declined to comment and Molloy did not return calls.

http://www.crainsmanchesterbusiness.co.uk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080303/FREE/814053972/1071/-/-/skyscraper-may-take-the-place-of-failed-apartments-project

Chogmook
March 3rd, 2008, 03:08 PM
Bulking up round the Rochdale Rd Corridor, with Skyline Central & hopefully Sharp St nearby!

Mez
March 3rd, 2008, 07:34 PM
Bit disapointed really. I can't ever imagin this end of the City Centre having a bussling, Manhatten feel; so a skyscraper/tower might not be the best.

A dense microcosym of a 'northern quarter' with its own shops, park area might've worked great though for spreading the 'City Centre feeling' outwards from the CDB.

jrb
March 4th, 2008, 07:12 PM
Wrong thread.

macc
March 7th, 2008, 01:30 PM
Any idea what's at 10 Tariff street at the moment? A google search lists "brain cafe" an dsome recording studios.
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N1/4 cafe Bar, Ground Floor, 10 Tariff Street, Manchester, M1 2FF
Application Type Premises Licence (New)
Proposal

Proposed trading hours for the provision of recorded music:
Sun to Wed 1100 to 0000
Thur 1100 to 0100
Fri & Sat 1100 to 0130

Proposed trading hours for the provision of anything of a similar description to recorded music:
Fri & Sat 2200 to 0130

Proposed trading hours for the provision of late night refreshment:
Sun to Wed 2300 to 0000
Thur 2300 to 0100
Fri & Sat 2300 to 0130

Proposed trading hours for the supply of alcohol for consumption on the premises only:
Sun to Wed 1100 to 0000
Thur 1100 to 0100
Fri & Sat 1100 to 0130

Proposed opening hours for the premises:
Sun to Wed 1100 to 0000
Thur 1100 to 0100
Fri & Sat 1100 to 0130
End of Consultation Date 24/03/2008

macc
March 7th, 2008, 03:59 PM
Any idea what's at 10 Tariff street at the moment? A google search lists "brain cafe" an dsome recording studios.
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N1/4 cafe Bar, Ground Floor, 10 Tariff Street, Manchester, M1

Just checked. nothing is there. Its where the old Technics DJ academy used to be.

With love saves the day, moving into Carver's warehouse there's going to be quite a few establishments around the basin area.

SteKnight
March 19th, 2008, 06:21 PM
I passed this development today, but I have no idea what it is (I think it's on Back Turner Street)...any ideas?

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg270/SteKnight/BackTurnerStreet190308.jpg?t=1205939513

ThomH
March 19th, 2008, 06:40 PM
Yes, it's a set of offices aimed at... small funky creative companies (in the N4? No! Never!!).

I seriously looked at taking space there before I went for my present office. I think the developer was a small independent, and interestingly many of the completed offices were up for freehold sale (I think they sold well) as opposed to lease.

The development involved the newbuild element you can see, as well as the refurb and repair of the adjoining weavers houses. All fit out fixtures and fittings were standard N4 (wood floors, exposed brickwork and ducting etc etc).

Cheers

Thom

SteKnight
March 19th, 2008, 06:44 PM
Thanks, Thom. I'll keep my eye on this one; see how it progresses.

macc
March 19th, 2008, 07:25 PM
I think nerd said they demolished some original slum housing for this, which pissed me off. Then the construction company went into administration, threatening to leave it half built. Was it lemonpark? I know they were doing the one next to the frog and bucket. That development is also now moving again, come to think of it.

I didn't realise they were doing up some of the weavers cottages. Not all bad news then.

highriser
March 19th, 2008, 09:14 PM
Its the Margolis building

http://www.brookfinch.co.uk/currentdev.htm

markydeedrop
March 19th, 2008, 09:17 PM
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And although not strictly NQ, I'll shove these in here
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