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An artist's impression of The Financial Tower
Tòa nhà The Financial Tower do các kiến trúc sư người Mỹ thiết kế, lấy hình ảnh bông sen, vốn quen thuộc với người Việt Nam

The future of leased offices in Vietnam is taking shape as work a spectacular tower in downtown Saigon gets under way.

The groundbreaking ceremony for The Financial Tower, owned by Bitexco, gained a lot of attention because the construction will create Saigon's tallest office building and involve the sector's biggest investment capital of about US$100 million.
Located in District 1 and surrounded by Hai Trieu, Ho Tung Mau and Ngo Duc Ke streets, and the HCM City State Treasury facing Nguyen Hue Boulevard, The Fianancial Tower has a striking shape and a structure of steel and glass. The 61-storey tower, designed by American architects, looks elegant and light. According to project managing director Moon Kyoo Kim, Bitexco has accepted "less profit to preserve the building's shape of a lotus bud."
Vu Quang Hoi, Bitexco general director, says the city government has allowed the tower to have a hotel, apartments and offices for lease, giving it the opportunity to recover its capital in less time. But the lotus bud shape of the building will make it more complex to run if it has many kinds of customers with differrent uses. Bitexco is, therefore, determined to make the project a financial, office and commercial center instead of adding apartments and a hotel.
Because the lotus bud is smaller at the top of the building, stories are different from one another in area and shape. The design reduces the leasing area of the building, especially at high floors. Usually in a high-rise building the higher the floor is, the higher the rent. Near the top of the tower, one floor has been given over to a landing pad for rescue helicopters.
The tower will have more than 16 elevators of the latest generation that can reach any position and any floor in the building within 45 seconds. A dataprocessing center will provide information relating to the activities of the building, allowing rapid problem-solving. When the building comes into operation, about 10,000 people will work there.
Because of its size, the project is designed with seven basements covering 33,000 square meters for parking and for equipment for the building's operation. "This is a building of international standards, so the paring lot has to meet international standards and the seven basements will serve that purpose." Kim says. The seven basements also serve as a balanced foundation for one ground floor, and 60 floors covering 83,000 square meters. The most moderntechnology allows simultaneous construction of both rising floors and basements but guarantees construction quality and time at 30 months. So, if construction begins in June as scheduled, The Financial Tower will go into operation at the end of 2007.
Asked why the structure is of steel and glass, Kim says the building could be of reinforced concrete but it would be difficult to shape the lotus bud, the building would be heavy, and construction time would be longer. With the outside of the building covered in glass, the sunlight on it will make the building outstanding in its space and the glass will also reflect nearby shapes. At night, the whole building facing the Saigon River with its shape and height, will be a splendid spectacle, thanks to modern lighting techniques. On the top floor will be a restaurant where locals and toursist can enjoy food and the city view at the altitude of about 300 metres.
Market surveys show that high-quality office buildings of international standard (Class A) are lacking in Vietnam and "this is a gap that Bitexco aims to fill," Bitexco's Hoi says. As for the Bitexco building on Nguyen Hue Boulevard, District 1, the company has wanted to enlarge its office area and take back one or two floors in its own building. But the big companies there did not want to relocate as they wanted to have complete services such as eating, ease of traveling, and the best working and communications conditions.
And that is the reason for Bitexco to invest in the office tower that will be bigger and more modern than any other office building on offer. "Regarding The Financial Tower, if foreigners invest in office buildings in Saigon, they will now have to consider spending an equivalent or higher sum, or else they will find it hard to compete successfully." Hoi says. So the character of the high-class real estate market of offices for lease will be set for decades to come.

(The Saigon Times Weekly)

In Vietnamese:

Lễ động thổ công trình Trung tâm Tài chính - Văn phòng - Thương mại (tên tiếng Anh: The Financial Tower) do Công ty Bitexco làm chủ đầu tư đã gây nhiều chú ý.

Bởi đây sẽ là tòa nhà văn phòng cao nhất tính đến nay (bảy tầng hầm và một trệt, 60 lầu); có vốn đầu tư lớn nhất (gần 100 triệu USD); tiến độ triển khai nhanh nhất (tính từ thời điểm chủ đầu tư thuyết trình dự án trước lãnh đạo Tp.HCM và các sở, ngành liên quan cho đến lúc động thổ - gần hai tháng).

Nằm giáp ba con đường Hải Triều - Hồ Tùng Mậu - Ngô Đức Kế ở trung tâm quận 1 (mặt còn lại, phía trước là Kho bạc Nhà nước Tp.HCM hướng ra đường Nguyễn Huệ ), tòa nhà The Financial Tower, do các kiến trúc sư người Mỹ thiết kế, lấy hình ảnh bông sen, vốn quen thuộc với người Việt Nam, làm ý tưởng chính nên nhìn từ bên ngoài, với kết cấu thép và kính, tòa nhà có dáng vẻ thanh thoát, nhẹ nhàng.

Theo Giám đốc điều hành dự án, ông Moon Kyoo Kim, thì chủ đầu tư Bitexco chấp nhận “lợi nhuận ít hơn để giữ cho được dáng vẻ búp sen của tòa nhà”.

Ông Vũ Quang Hội, Tổng giám đốc Bitexco, giải thích ngay từ đầu, chính quyền thành phố đã chấp thuận cho chủ đầu tư được kinh doanh khách sạn - căn hộ kết hợp với văn phòng cho thuê và như vậy sẽ mau thu hồi vốn hơn nhưng xét ở khía cạnh khác sẽ khó thực hiện được hình khối của búp sen cho tòa nhà.

Và hơn nữa, với nhiều đối tượng có mục đích sử dụng khác nhau, việc quản lý, điều hành, bảo dưỡng, duy tu tòa nhà cũng sẽ phức tạp hơn. Thế nên Bitexco vẫn quyết định dự án là một trung tâm tài chính, văn phòng, thương mại thay vì kèm thêm các hoạt động kinh doanh căn hộ và khách sạn.

Do chọn biểu tượng hình búp sen vươn cao và nhỏ dần phía đỉnh nên không tầng nào giống tầng nào về diện tích và hình dạng. Thiết kế này sẽ làm giảm diện tích cho thuê của tòa nhà, đặc biệt ở các tầng cao trong khi với một công trình cao tầng thì càng lên cao giá thuê sẽ càng đắt. Ở gần đỉnh tháp, có tầng được thiết kế như búp sen nở, đây chính là bãi đáp cho trực thăng cứu hộ. Thiết kế bãi đáp này cũng có nghĩa là giảm bớt một phần diện tích cho thuê đắt giá.

Tòa nhà sẽ có hơn 16 chiếc thang máy thuộc thế hệ mới nhất có thể đến bất kỳ vị trí nào, tầng nào trong tòa nhà không mất quá 45 giây. Một trung tâm xử lý dữ liệu có thể cập nhật, cung cấp và xử lý mọi thông tin liên quan đến hoạt động của tòa nhà; cho phép điều hành, quản lý và xử lý mọi sự cố một cách nhanh chóng và hiệu quả. Khi tòa nhà hoạt động sẽ có khoảng 10.000 người thường xuyên ra vào làm việc.

Chính vì quy mô lớn nên phải thiết kế đến bảy tầng hầm làm chỗ để xe (33.000 mét vuông) và cũng là nơi bố trí nhiều trang thiết bị khác phục vụ hoạt động của tòa nhà. Ông Moon Kyoo Kim khẳng định: “Đây là tòa nhà theo tiêu chuẩn quốc tế nên chỗ để xe cũng phải đúng tiêu chuẩn quốc tế và bảy tầng hầm là để đáp ứng cho chuyện đó”.

Ở khía cạnh kỹ thuật, bảy tầng hầm nằm sâu dưới lòng đất còn có tác dụng làm đế cân xứng cho một tầng trệt và 60 tầng lầu bên trên (83.000 mét vuông). Công nghệ hiện đại nhất hiện nay cho phép thi công theo phương pháp đồng loạt vừa tầng trên vừa tầng hầm mà vẫn đảm bảo chất lượng công trình và theo tiến độ xây dựng dự kiến - tính từ lúc khởi công - sẽ hoàn thành tòa nhà trong vòng 30 tháng.

Như vậy, nếu việc khởi công đúng như dự kiến (tháng 6/2005), thì The Financial Tower sẽ được khánh thành chính thức vào cuối năm 2007.

Trả lời câu hỏi vì sao phải chọn kết cấu thép-kính cho tòa nhà, ông Moon Kyoo Kim cho biết, tòa nhà có thể được xây dựng bằng bê tông cốt thép nhưng như thế sẽ khó tạo dáng hình búp sen và công trình sẽ trở nên nặng nề, thời gian thi công sẽ kéo dài. Sử dụng kết cấu thép-kính để tòa nhà có dáng vẻ nhẹ nhàng, thanh thoát.

Mặt khác, do mặt ngoài toàn bằng kính nên ban ngày, ánh nắng phản chiếu sẽ làm tòa nhà nổi bật giữa không gian, đồng thời cũng phản chiếu những hình ảnh lân cận lên tòa nhà. Đêm về, toàn bộ tòa nhà, với độ cao vượt trội hướng ra sông Sài Gòn, sẽ trở nên rực rỡ nhờ vào những kỹ thuật ánh sáng hiện đại nhất, làm lộng lẫy thêm khu vực trung tâm thành phố.

Đặc biệt, các tầng trên cùng sẽ như ngọn hải đăng tỏa sáng, làm nổi bật biểu tượng búp sen vươn cao của Tp.HCM. Cũng trên tầng cao nhất này sẽ có một nhà hàng để người dân cũng như khách du lịch có thể vừa thưởng thức các món ăn Việt Nam và các nước, vừa ngắm cảnh toàn thành phố từ độ cao khoảng 300 mét.

Loại kính bao mặt ngoài tòa nhà là loại kính được chế tạo đặc biệt, có hai lớp, ở giữa có lớp hóa chất chống hấp thụ nhiệt cũng như tia cực tím. Việc xây dựng tòa nhà cũng được tính toán từng góc cạnh để có thể lấy ánh sáng tốt nhất, giảm thiểu tối đa những hiệu ứng không tốt từ ánh nắng mặt trời.

Riêng việc bảo dưỡng duy tu mặt kính bên ngoài cũng là vấn đề được nhà thiết kế tính đến ngay từ đầu với các trục xử lý ở độ cao lên đến 300 mét cùng nhiều trang thiết bị chuyên dùng khác.

Số liệu điều tra và nghiên cứu thị trường cho thấy, những tòa nhà văn phòng chất lượng cao theo tiêu chuẩn quốc tế (loại A) hiện đang rất thiếu tại Việt Nam và “đây thực sự là khoảng trống mà Bitexco nhắm đến”, ông Vũ Quang Hội nói.

Ông cho biết, ngay như cao ốc Bitexco ở đường Nguyễn Huệ, nay công ty muốn mở rộng văn phòng, lấy lại một hai tầng trong tòa nhà của chính mình nhưng cũng không còn chỗ bởi những công ty lớn “khi có trụ sở văn phòng với dịch vụ được cung cấp hoàn hảo từ ăn ở, đi lại, làm việc, thông tin liên lạc… thì họ không muốn dời đi đâu nữa”. Và đó cũng chính là lý do để Bitexco đầu tư một tòa nhà văn phòng mới, quy mô và hiện đại hơn.

Ông Hội cũng không giấu niềm tự hào khi cho rằng “với The Financial Tower, nếu người nước ngoài đầu tư vào lĩnh vực cao ốc văn phòng tại Việt Nam thì buộc họ phải cân nhắc để đầu tư ở mức bằng hoặc cao hơn, nếu không sẽ khó cạnh tranh thành công”.

Và như vậy, thị trường bất động sản cao cấp - văn phòng cho thuê sẽ có bước chuyển mới.


(Theo TBKTSG)

...nếu người nước ngoài đầu tư vào lĩnh vực cao ốc văn phòng tại Việt Nam thì buộc họ phải cân nhắc để đầu tư ở mức bằng hoặc cao hơn, nếu không sẽ khó cạnh tranh thành công”...

Sounds reasonable! :)

The first time i heard about "Bitexco" :huh? a bycicle manufaturer or something?

Property developer and textile exporter.

That design looks interesting. :)

it this building related to a korean company? I picked up a korean name in the text...

The project co-ordinator is a Korean. The building was designed by an American and is financed by Bitexco, a Vietnamese company.

how much is the building cost?

like 100 million US$?

The Financial Tower - 68 storeys! (Vietnamese)


This is the most crappy looking tower I ever seen !! what the heck that guy thinking of !!! a Lotus flower !! what !! I didn't here it wrong !! who in this forum tell me that this tower look like lotus or even close...or some lotus architectural !! vietnam has so many crappy building all ready. We don't want those "gan bun ma van hoi tan mui ...thui quac "

I think the designer probroablly think that he would used that tower to plan lotus in that...so it does sound like lotus tower....I think he should dump it to "vung sinh"...might be it look different from the lotus.

What a crapp !!

Ant

@ wegotjam...
I was suprised as you are too to find the connection between the lotus flower and the tower when i first saw it but then perhaps you havent seen all the info about the project... i also want to use this opportunity to repose lovesaigon's post within this thread...

There is a diagram here that i find it sucessfully expressed the idea of a lotus flower. Architecturally it would be pathetic to literally mimic the image of a lotus flower. A hint or suggestion of it is what i can find in this tower. I agree that there are may project in Saigon that arent good but i would give credit for this one, at least for its efforts to be unique. Then again it all come down to your taste....

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This building is truely designed to be a landmark :okay:

look intriguing on the inside, but the outside look so weird

I love the design, although it resembles a submarine or cigar to me. LOL

not a bad design,it looks good

wegotjam What a crapp !!

...but that's a cool crap... :bash:

Wow, great news for Vietnam. How tall(in metres) is this going to be.

PS: The design looks a bit weired tho, but its different.

272 metres, costs 100 mil US$.

It reminds me of Menara Telekom in Kuala Lumpur

hi everybody !!

I look at the the concept and those render they got. Then, I think they really want to make the real shit !! not crabby !! Look at this every body..from far away..it look like a pussy than a lotus pub...(on the picture looking from ben nha rong)

If I said if look like "bong sung" pub !! whose will offense with that !! it really like a lot of flower pub in many of vietnam flower.

The design over here is even worse to compare with the pub. Have anyone ask why what is the relate between the first pub and the second pub. which one is first, how come the size is difference? And, which make you feel that that should be the lotus flower ? Plus, Lotus flower been reconigzined and symbolized by blossom, the unique color, the flower....not the young pub...

More than that, architecturally he or she would think of the structure of the pub...look at that again, look at the structure of each petal...and the skin of that building....look at the interior, is there anything that represent that you are inside the pub...or just feel like similar with a lot of building you have seen, which have been built around the world for 30 years. The Desiger was talking about the modern look. Yes, out side with the skin and curves (you also know this kind of architecture are not new to you since...decade), however, the inside is totally not something new.

Here, I just talk about the architecture of the building. the urban planing and landscape are not cordinate with the city ...at all. Please, look again those city like boston, seatle, vienna, ...etc.

Ant

I think it looks like one of those new towers in Qatar or Dubai...

hi everybody !!

I look at the the concept and those render they got. Then, I think they really want to make the real shit !! not crabby !! Look at this every body..from far away..it look like a pussy than a lotus pub...(on the picture looking from ben nha rong)

If I said if look like "bong sung" pub !! whose will offense with that !! it really like a lot of flower pub in many of vietnam flower.

The design over here is even worse to compare with the pub. Have anyone ask why what is the relate between the first pub and the second pub. which one is first, how come the size is difference? And, which make you feel that that should be the lotus flower ? Plus, Lotus flower been reconigzined and symbolized by blossom, the unique color, the flower....not the young pub...

More than that, architecturally he or she would think of the structure of the pub...look at that again, look at the structure of each petal...and the skin of that building....look at the interior, is there anything that represent that you are inside the pub...or just feel like similar with a lot of building you have seen, which have been built around the world for 30 years. The Desiger was talking about the modern look. Yes, out side with the skin and curves (you also know this kind of architecture are not new to you since...decade), however, the inside is totally not something new.

Here, I just talk about the architecture of the building. the urban planing and landscape are not cordinate with the city ...at all. Please, look again those city like boston, seatle, vienna, ...etc.

Ant

Hey wegotjam!
If you don't like the design, just say it. But why you use the words like that?
If you really love shit, just make it, it's so easy! :sleepy:
I don't want to agrue with you, but your words make me sick. Why do you do that? Don't you think when you say like that, many other people from other country will laugh at you, at Vietnamese, huh?
So, give your own opinion, it's very good, but don't use d*mn word, ok, please!

ahhhh!! personally...i think the architectural design of the financial tower is very unique and comtemporary!! pple view things differently ....u no!!!??? o wel, there are already too many odinary square and original rectangular building structures around the world!! this one is particularly .....disticnt from the others...!! if u want to distinguish urself from others...u need to be unique and different!!...the design of this building is a piece of art to me personally....! i bet it would look very great when it's completed!!! very aesthetic...i s'pose!!! just wanna try to share some personal opinion!!

Awww,freedom of speech ba` con....jst b easy breezy...

I also think that it's weird....but I would answer that art is a weird thing,or there's a tiny gap between them...sometimes you seem like not understand all the ideas,all the purposes and go criticism and got nothing to back it up,it's normal thou.

But i still don't know what is so great in Boston,Seattle or Vienna? :dunno:

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Hi Love saigon !! I don't agrue with you either !!
the critic like the way i did...it verry common...in architectural field. Sorry that you have to here that and get used to that all the time... Phillip Johnson,...Gerry, Richard miere !!! ...have you seen them give critic !!! they are even worse !! In my opion, it give people a strong way of view !! which architecture that is crab and shit, they don't like and they don't make those building.

Again, this building...the concept is not right and not appropriate !!! that's already turn to crab right at beginning !!

no more word for this tower

Ant

sorry, i'm too .... :(

The future of leased offices in Vietnam is taking shape as work a spectacular tower in downtown Saigon gets under way.

The groundbreaking ceremony for The Financial Tower, owned by Bitexco, gained a lot of attention because the construction will create Saigon's tallest office building and involve the sector's biggest investment capital of about US$100 million.
Located in District 1 and surrounded by Hai Trieu, Ho Tung Mau and Ngo Duc Ke streets, and the HCM City State Treasury facing Nguyen Hue Boulevard, The Fianancial Tower has a striking shape and a structure of steel and glass. The 61-storey tower, designed by American architects, looks elegant and light. According to project managing director Moon Kyoo Kim, Bitexco has accepted "less profit to preserve the building's shape of a lotus bud."
Vu Quang Hoi, Bitexco general director, says the city government has allowed the tower to have a hotel, apartments and offices for lease, giving it the opportunity to recover its capital in less time. But the lotus bud shape of the building will make it more complex to run if it has many kinds of customers with differrent uses. Bitexco is, therefore, determined to make the project a financial, office and commercial center instead of adding apartments and a hotel.
Because the lotus bud is smaller at the top of the building, stories are different from one another in area and shape. The design reduces the leasing area of the building, especially at high floors. Usually in a high-rise building the higher the floor is, the higher the rent. Near the top of the tower, one floor has been given over to a landing pad for rescue helicopters.
The tower will have more than 16 elevators of the latest generation that can reach any position and any floor in the building within 45 seconds. A dataprocessing center will provide information relating to the activities of the building, allowing rapid problem-solving. When the building comes into operation, about 10,000 people will work there.
Because of its size, the project is designed with seven basements covering 33,000 square meters for parking and for equipment for the building's operation. "This is a building of international standards, so the paring lot has to meet international standards and the seven basements will serve that purpose." Kim says. The seven basements also serve as a balanced foundation for one ground floor, and 60 floors covering 83,000 square meters. The most moderntechnology allows simultaneous construction of both rising floors and basements but guarantees construction quality and time at 30 months. So, if construction begins in June as scheduled, The Financial Tower will go into operation at the end of 2007.
Asked why the structure is of steel and glass, Kim says the building could be of reinforced concrete but it would be difficult to shape the lotus bud, the building would be heavy, and construction time would be longer. With the outside of the building covered in glass, the sunlight on it will make the building outstanding in its space and the glass will also reflect nearby shapes. At night, the whole building facing the Saigon River with its shape and height, will be a splendid spectacle, thanks to modern lighting techniques. On the top floor will be a restaurant where locals and toursist can enjoy food and the city view at the altitude of about 300 metres.
Market surveys show that high-quality office buildings of international standard (Class A) are lacking in Vietnam and "this is a gap that Bitexco aims to fill," Bitexco's Hoi says. As for the Bitexco building on Nguyen Hue Boulevard, District 1, the company has wanted to enlarge its office area and take back one or two floors in its own building. But the big companies there did not want to relocate as they wanted to have complete services such as eating, ease of traveling, and the best working and communications conditions.
And that is the reason for Bitexco to invest in the office tower that will be bigger and more modern than any other office building on offer. "Regarding The Financial Tower, if foreigners invest in office buildings in Saigon, they will now have to consider spending an equivalent or higher sum, or else they will find it hard to compete successfully." Hoi says. So the character of the high-class real estate market of offices for lease will be set for decades to come.

(The Saigon Times Weekly)

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So it turns out that it's NOT under construction yet. But I am sure it will be soon, and I like the Vietnamese strategy of keeping the good things for the Vietnamese. Although in the long run that didn't work even for the Koreans or the Japanese...

I have my doubts about the landing pad on the side of the buidling. I can't see a helicopter landing there, so close to the building on one side... A gust of wind and they're ****ed. Landing pads are always 360 unobstructed.

For the record, I think it's a lovely building. But no sense trying to convince anyone else, alas. Some people only like boring boxes or whatever...

Some people only like boring boxes or whatever...

Yep Yep...im getting tired of the old traditional box design itself.

hi Bang,

you could look that tower looks like ao dai, point fingure, or whatever...that's mean that the scupture is not showing for you or convicing you it look like what....same here, I look it look like "bong sung" pub or pussy....or whatever.

We all here want to see interesting building especially with this type of building. This type of building are very important in landscape, urban planning, and the city skyview.

There are also many styles to do in architecture and therories. However, what I believe that the good building that has to start with a good concept. And the more of the concept present the more the building success.
Overhere, the concept was stated that it should look like the lotus pub. That means that...this building will take whatever architectural characters of the lotus to apply to this tower. However, the present is not showing anything that related between the building and the architecture of the lotus pub.

Other, the Lotus pub in the picture that they presented, which was stretched to make it look more vertically look. for that reason, it could make it look like "bong sung" flower that lotus flower. They really did not care the nature shape of the flower...what do they will care for the concept !!...and how it is really look.

One more time, which such a large scale building like this, the concept should present througout the entire building from begin first sketch to the detail. I don't have to show any building to you that i like or not. It is so obvious, every great building has a wonderfull concept, and how the architect consisting with the concept.

Ant

Just a question. I suppose that every Skyscraper in Vn have an inhouse power generator that come to be very handy these days because of these electricity power shortages. Am I right ?

Every modern skyscraper anywhere has a backup generator.

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I think this inspired: Menara Telekom in Malaysia with helipad.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~paulkoh/menaratelekom2.jpghttp://www.realestateonline.com.my/db/property/1812/MenaraTelekom.jpg

Yeah i think the Helipad should be redesign too. Kinda wierd in relation to the entire structure.

tell me it's the moonsoon season that causes the halt


There is no halt. They haven't started yet. But this announced only in January, after all. And this is serious stuff, they need several months just to do the detailed drawings, and then send out requests for bids. A building like this has tens of thousands of different things going in it, and I think that even if they break ground in June it'll be fast. It's likely they've been working on the design and specs "in secret" since summer '04...

I think they mentioned something about an observation area.
Perhaps the helipad like part is for that purpose.

gjhg

Saigon would need 250 years to develop proper city planning according to this newspaper article:

http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Xa-hoi/2006/03/3B9E807C/

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what an ugly building!!!

But my main concern, which back go to the thread's name, is the Financial Tower. I truly think this building is not necessary in Saigon. It changes the city too drastically like I said before. Although it respresents vietnam's economic growth and whatnot, i truly feel that they can(especially since the design is from an American Architure) come up with a better design to blend in with the city. There are many creative ideas, but the financial toward is just not necessary at the certain lacation or Vietnam at all.[/QUOTE]


naaa i think we should hav something kind of special building that represnet are country like new york the empire state building or taiwan taipei 101 or hongkong u know ??????????? so i think is a good thing that they building this building

I like the Financial Tower a lot. Ask what the Financial Tower can do for Saigon, not what Saigon should influence every impeccable designed high-rise. The building may not fit into the current Saigon skyline, but it is a stepping stone toward a futuristic Saigon skyline.

And Also,Parking space is unheard of in New York and LA because they never thought through how they were going to use their land wisely. And many people in New York don't own cars because they have no where to park it.

Is that really a bad thing? I mean I rather prefer the presence of people walking and the lively downtown like Tokyo, than the boring yet well planned city like Chicago :rock:

New York rockz and i'm sure it's lively too.

New York rockz and i'm sure it's lively too.
yup i love new york. i'm moving there in 2008 (if all goes well) :)

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Is that really a bad thing? I mean I rather prefer the presence of people walking and the lively downtown like Tokyo, than the boring yet well planned city like Chicago :rock:

Wat chu talkin about. :bash: :jk:

blah blah blah this building is ugly.

"you have to walk the street of saigon to see Saigon 2006 is not the saigon 1996, and saigon 1996 is not the saigon 1986 for each 10 yrs the city becomes a whole new person"

I particularly appreciate this statement.

Saigon 1986, sleeping central districts...filthy, bustling chinatown, 8th district of gangs, everybody is like in a deep dream, Trinh Cong Son music, 1980's cafe's, Russian style discos, export-import companies, Bia Ben Thanh commercials, you buy everything in those HTX co-ops,.....

Saigon 1996, first winds of capitalism, hotels and restaurants, ta^y balo^, viet kieu ve^` que^, Superbowl, Baskin-Robin ice-cream, Cty TNHH limited companies, cheap pop music, Dam Sen is the hottest spot in town. Hold your grips mates! In somewhere, Saigon is just like before, life goes on, but not like anywhere else on Earth....watch films like Cyclo and you can feel it.

Then, everything slows down a little bit. Ppl start to discuss between @ and Dylan which one is better.

And now Saigon 2006 ........ very promising but also contains some risks.

But the spirit of Saigon is still the same: ppl visit Duc Ba basilica, motorbikes r roaming,
cai luong can be heard in high-rises, Cho lon is still charming wit ppl bargaining, drinking coffee while watching girls smiling.....like we always say: it's in our blood.

You've said it all, Monsooner!!

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If you didn't already know, New York City is represented as a "bad" example of a city along with LA to most, if not all, Architects. They never planned out any strategies in order to keep things balanced, especially land use. Apartments and condos are scattered everywhere because realitor and developers took up space and built whatever they wanted... ...And Also,Parking space is unheard of in New York and LA because they never thought through how they were going to use their land wisely...

Let me say one thing to you: :bash:

If I were a mod, I would ban you. Your facts are all wrong. NY is one of the best-planned, most tightly-controlled cities in the world. Nowhere do citizens have a more passionate and active attachment to the city. Nowhere is the building process more democratic and transparent. And no city is more desirable to live in, for Americans and foreigners, judging for example by the price of its real estate.

Parking... NY intentionally discourages it because it wants people to use public transport, not drive. Go to NY and walk the streets, and then come back and tell us about it. Good luck. :)

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Now back to the discussion. I don't mind high density in downtown, as long as we get pointy towers, and not blocks. Those three public housing blocks next to Rach Thi Nghe, for example... what a disaster. At least it's not in district 1. Or the Norfolk Mansion on Le Thanh Ton, with a wall around it. A lot also depends on how the building meets the ground...

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you said it jaro


but what frighten now is they plan to build an overpass highway running along thi nghe canal....from the airport through the city center to thuthiem to ease the traffic.....and said it will look beautiful like a dragon flying through the canal.......
what an idiotic thing to say and do.
have you ever see any highway that look like a dragon anywhere in the world or they all just looked like concrete bridges?

I am so worry about this expensive project that will destroy the beautiful and serenity of thi nghe canal.....lets hope they will never find the fund to build this

if anmything expand the streets and plant more trees and design islands in the middle of the streets like Nguyen Hue boulevard.

on ashui I think we all read the article written by 1 architect, his view and dissapoving of the project is so so right

http://ashui.com/ctcdkn.php?d=20060330024319&cd=35

I agree with bang. The project should be damned.
If the highway's built, it'll destroy the green scenery of Nhieu Loc canal.
Saigon should be a green city, not a concrete city :)

I came across the first news about the canal highway a few weeks ago, and I couldn't believe it... recently I was able to drive along almost the entire canal bank by motorbike, it's realy excellent.

Sure, the new road will help to connect the airport to the rest of the city, which is important. And almost any big city has an elevated or sunken highway to its airport, there is really no way to avoid that.

The excuse of the government for doing it along the canal is that they cannot afford to pay the people whose land they would have to take in order to widen the roads. But surely other solutions could be found, like compensating people with land at Thu Tiem. But usually the way that benefits the ruling class is the way things get done.

That's such an ugly design.

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any updates?

A New Face for Ho Chi Minh City
Wednesday, 30 March 2005, 4:59 GMT + 07:00

Residential areas have been making more modern and aesthetically pleasing

In the current process of industrializing and modernizing Vietnam, the construction industry has grown exponentially. In Ho Chi Minh City, for instance, capital for construction projects amounts to VND 30 trillion per year, of which US$300 million comes from foreign enterprises.

There are 187 enterprises which are involved in construction projects, among which are 16 foreign direct investment enterprises. Construction earns these companies nearly VND500 billion per year, and each year authorities give 11,000 licenses for the construction of new buildings. The area now under construction or repair is 2 million sq.m.

At present, nearly 2,000 architects are consulting, designing, or managing construction projects, and also training new architects. These architects have been responsible for designing and creating the new look of Ho Chi Minh City and have introduced modern, neocolonial, and a fair share of rather 'common' architecture.

In recent years, architects have provided the city with hotels, 15 to 20-storey buildings and supermarkets. Many architects have been making residential areas look more modern and aesthetically pleasing, while the interiors of houses have certainly become more attractive and impressive. While many architects are not specialized, meaning they might design industrial zone projects or residential area projects, the general ability of design companies has improved a great deal in recent years. There are seven companies from Ho Chi Minh City that placed among the top 10 design companies of Vietnam and received TOPTEN 2005 awards presented by the BCI Asia. Many construction businesses such as Cofico are highly appriciated by foreign investors. Cofico has implemented construction projects for Taiwan and Singapore, building a name for itself in Vietnam in 2004.

Despite these successes, though, construction works that successfully mix modern and tradition styles remains disappointingly low, while some residential areas look like the craziest hodgepodge imaginable. At the fifth meeting of architects in Ho Chi Minh City in mid March, Nguyen Tan Van, deputy minister of the Construction Ministry, argued, "While it would be hard to find a better place than Ho Chi Minh City for designing and building new projects, architecture here is actually worsening."

Tony, a British architect, added, "Given the great potential here, it is disappointing to see slums in Ho Chi Minh City's narrow streets, or simple, low-roofed houses next to enormous, high-rise buildings. The city needs to be planned more carefully, and there are a lot of details to work out before a project is finally carried out."

The city's Architect Association acknowledged the fact that there are many works imitating out-of-date foreign architectural styles, which do not suit Vietnam's climate or taste. In the process of urban construction planning, many projects have had to be cancelled or redesigned.

According to Le Van Nam, member of Ho Chi Minh City's Architect Association, the fact that the city's architecture is getting worse is due to increasing competition between architects and construction companies, as well as contractors who also take part in designing construction works. Another reason is that architects are not fully compensated through their earnings compared with the responsibility that they must take for the project.

The talent and responsibility of architects contribute a lot to making Ho Chi Minh City a beautiful and attractive architectural center, deserving to be the center of finance and commerce of the region.
By Phan Thanh

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I do not understand: how will 10 000 people access to the building every day? The financial tower has no access on Nguyen Hue, as there is a building in construction there already... :eek2:
we have no subway so far, I did not hear about any underground ways... so what? can anybody explain me?

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Thanks for the prompt answer bang!
Well, it faces 3 street but, Ngo duc is a small one way, the one along the harbor view tower (i don't remember the name even if i walk through it every day) is as well a one way and already overcrowded, and finally ho tung mau is as well... a one way, which corner with Ham Nghi will be incredibly hard to mannage...
I mean i drive around there quite often, and it is such a huge thing.... it will be a damm mess, it is such a concentration of people!!!.
I don't understand why the architecture and investment seems to be very well studdied, but what about the infrastructure????

Are there any update of this Building?

Who stay in Saigon please help us to have some update picture of this project, and we should post a new topic of this project in the Construction Update Section!

My family used to own a house that is in the construction area of the Financial Tower. We have just agreed to let them take down our house. We have put it on rent for the last five years and did not actually lived there. However, there are still at least 20 families still living ther. They are not happy with the price Bitexco offers. They said it was not enough to relocate. So Bitexco is still at the stage of clearing the site. This is complicated!

Take on the first days of July (don't remember exactly the day)

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/38/dsc02344qg2.jpg
http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/7430/dsc02346il8.jpg
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/8240/dsc02345pi2.jpg

ALRIGHT THEY FINALLY BUILD SOMTHING TALLL GO SAIGON LONVE MY COUNGTRY EVEN THOUGHT I DONT LIKE THE COMMUNIST

My family used to own a house that is in the construction area of the Financial Tower. We have just agreed to let them take down our house. We have put it on rent for the last five years and did not actually lived there. However, there are still at least 20 families still living ther. They are not happy with the price Bitexco offers. They said it was not enough to relocate. So Bitexco is still at the stage of clearing the site. This is complicated!
It's good that those 20 families stood their ground. This project should not be built until those people get a fair price for the compensation.

so are they still at the clearance stage or they starting with the foundation now? i see the crane

i think it wont be completed before end 08

I would be delighted to have it completed at all.

i think it wont be completed before end 08

The problem is not the time to build it! Because its only Glass and Steel System! It'll will not take so much time to push it up! The biggest problem is the preconstruction process! If it already start in July 2006, it must be done in the end of 2007 or may be in the first quater of 2008! Hopefully before "Tet"

one of the most ugly buildings i have ever seen - the communists over there must have absolutely no taste for good design. Thats what happens when you dont have freedom of speech and suppression of ideas and opinions


:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

the families that still live in the construction site are friends of mine. I know that last week they met up with Bitexco's representatives but made no progress.
For the Salomon and some thing, this building was designed by a American company. I don't know how your taste is but it must be weird to me!

This will be a controversial building when it will be finished just like the Eiffel Tower when it first came out. I would like it much better if it has a dome, crown, or some fashionable spire on top of the design. But I hope they will complete this building soon and inspire future skyscraper development in Saigon.

...can't wait to see the future skyline of Saigon...its such a pity that this time I haven't time for Saigon...my family want to visit Singapore and Beijing in august...but I want to see Saigon too and visit friends!!!...last time I didn't pay much attention to high-tises and stylish buildings in general...so I guess I have missed a lot in Saigon...

if they build steel and glass buildings they could be simple or ugly i don't care as long as they stop with the concrete block building......if they are concrete buildings they should be in french architecture.....if they don't have french architecture.......they should have a dome on top.......period

one of the most ugly buildings i have ever seen - the communists over there must have absolutely no taste for good design. Thats what happens when you dont have freedom of speech and suppression of ideas and opinions


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It's wrong! Because this building belong to Bitexco! Do you know anything about Bitexco?

It's really beautiful and futuristic to me. There's not many chances to have such a tower in Vietnam. I can't wait for it.

It's wrong! Because this building belong to Bitexco! Do you know anything about Bitexco?

I have to admit I know nothing about Bitexco! But whoever owns this building is totally irrelevant. This is because it was a department or some instrumentality of the vietnamese communist government which approved for this building to go ahead. The officials who approved this building probably received some sort of kickback from vested interests to rubber stamp this project and allow it to go ahead.

Also, someone mentioned that this building was designed by a U.S. design firm. So what if it was designed by an american firm. That is also totally irrelevant. Obviously there are good design firms and not so good design firms and even downright terrible design firms be it a U.S. firm or not. What is relevant is the fact that some government official or committee approved for this building to go ahead and therefore displaying their lack of good taste in design.

Salomon, I respect your point of view on politics. However, you should see that you this is not a forum for politics. You should learn to read first before trying to understand politics. This is Vietnam skyscraper forums.

I have to admit I know nothing about Bitexco! But whoever owns this building is totally irrelevant. This is because it was a department or some instrumentality of the vietnamese communist government which approved for this building to go ahead. The officials who approved this building probably received some sort of kickback from vested interests to rubber stamp this project and allow it to go ahead.

Also, someone mentioned that this building was designed by a U.S. design firm. So what if it was designed by an american firm. That is also totally irrelevant. Obviously there are good design firms and not so good design firms and even downright terrible design firms be it a U.S. firm or not. What is relevant is the fact that some government official or committee approved for this building to go ahead and therefore displaying their lack of good taste in design.
What you've just said is very idiotic, do you know that? :)

I have to admit I know nothing about Bitexco! But whoever owns this building is totally irrelevant. This is because it was a department or some instrumentality of the vietnamese communist government which approved for this building to go ahead. The officials who approved this building probably received some sort of kickback from vested interests to rubber stamp this project and allow it to go ahead.

Also, someone mentioned that this building was designed by a U.S. design firm. So what if it was designed by an american firm. That is also totally irrelevant. Obviously there are good design firms and not so good design firms and even downright terrible design firms be it a U.S. firm or not. What is relevant is the fact that some government official or committee approved for this building to go ahead and therefore displaying their lack of good taste in design.

I found it beautiful.

me tooo this is skyscraper forum not polotic and this building is bitiful anyway this could me a symbol for saigon and symbol for vietnam do u know man i remmeber when we on the top 3 list of all the asian country they call us hon ngoc bien dong (i think is crystal island of the west sea or north or south i dont know alot of english

the proper term is "hon ngoc vien dong" not "bien dong"
the english term is "pearl of the orient" sometimes "pearl of the far east"
pearl of the orient refered to only saigon by the French.
hanoi was "paris of the far east" .......dalat "petit paris"

and we're not an island country, plus we're located in the south east of the asia continent

but today seems like every city in asia from hongkong, shanghai, kualalumpur to singapore they all use the term "pearl of the orient" to describe themselves.....truth to be told they stole our title but their cities now actually better looking than saigon.
so bye bye saigon

mấy bác cho hỏi cái vụ Sai Gon Park Tower cãi nhau đến đâu rùi nhỉ tui ko muốn nó xây chút nào cả

hinh nhu cai nhau den luc cai model bi lay di roi

nhung ta thich no lam, nen se tiep tuc cai cho toi khi now no duoc xay.......oh yeah

mấy bác cho hỏi cái vụ Sai Gon Park Tower cãi nhau đến đâu rùi nhỉ tui ko muốn nó xây chút nào cả

Sẽ đựơc xây, dù u có muốn hay ko :) Sure 'bout it!
Có thể 54 tầng như cũ, cũng có thể giảm xuống còn 50 tầng cho mấy bà con chống đối đỡ ngứa miệng.
Dầu sao cũng thích 54 tầng hơn, vì số 54 biểu trưng cho 54 dân tộc VN.

Hi everybody!
I am a rookie of this forum. I have known this forum for along time.But my english is bad so I can't not post or reply for a thread. Now I think my skill is better than before.
To talk about The Financial Tower is very exciting. I often pass around this building's area where is under construted. I do belive it will become a symbol of Saigon in the near future.
I have a question. Do the SJC twin towers and Eden building ( next to the Citi hall) will be construted in the end of this year?

hey doungqua, if you are in saigon and you are visiting the financial tower construction site very often than maybe you could take some pictures of it for us and tell us about the progress of it. I think everyone would really appreciate this.

cheers

yea, i think somebody should update

Hey guys,
I am new to this forum but I think that if we really want to understand the real estate market in Vietnam, we must look at from the investors point of view.

I use to work for AA Land, the vietnamese partner for AA land Prudential Joint venture jointly redeveloped the awful Xom Cui complex taken from Viet Hoa Bank.

As for the 9/23 park area. No one has enough money to touch it yet.

What we are seeing now in Vietnam is the Vietnamese taking over the initial investment that foreigners had in the 1990s before the Asian financial crisis.

We have two problems to the redevelopement of Saigon.
1. Foreigner have been burned and are scared
2. Vietnamese are too greedy and not enough capital.

Look for Vinacapital to start the game going.. They are buying all the shares of foreign companies.

Sofitel Metropole
Hanoi opera
Hung Vuong
vinacapital condo
me linh square.. former winhorst tower.

Binh Minh is a big government player but lacks the expertise.
Wait for Kepple land to finish phase 2 of saigon centre.

Savico has a lot of land but no money.. Must go fishing for foreign investors.

Asiana plaza is going nowhere..

Remember it takes at least 5 years to develop a good grade A office building.
the market is too weak to risk all the capital right now..

Only Vinacapital has a good business model of buying distressed property to redevelop..

i like your view scotty dawg, give us some inside info of vinacapital, what is the next big thing they are developing. u think financial tower will go up for sure?

Vinacapital has a war chest of approximate 500 million USD and they are getting more. It is headed by Horst Gieke who is a German transplant that happened to marry into a very rich HK family. He has hired another partner, Don Lam formerly of Pricewaterhouse cooper. Don is the go to man in Vietnam for share evaluation. He has been in the business of get the financial ready for state firms to list on the Vietnamese Stock Exchange and possibly overseas. Apparently the rules of the game in the Vietnamese stock market are not too transparent at this point.. It is only the beginning.. our order system was donated from Thailand in 2000.. I am not sure that they have upgraded it yet.

Anyways.. Vinacapital wants to the go to Investment Bank in Vietnam to be bought out by the Major investment bank ( morgan, goldman, etc.) when 2009 arrives because at this time the Bilateral trade agreeement signed in 2001 will allow for 100% ownership of financial transaction companies.

Vinacapital is competing against.
1. Saigon Securities.. (SSI) most connected
2. Mekong capital ( World bank funded )
3. Dragon Capital ( oldest in the market)
4. BIDV capital ( newest and most money)
5. Vietcombank ( to be created)
5. Insurance ( prudential , bao minh, bao viet ( founded by Bac Ho))

Look for these guys to enter the Real estate market to offer capital.

The state companies on the bottom have been allocated city land since 1975.
That is Savico, Ben Thanh, Saigontourist, all arms of the specific industrial department. These in turn want to trade land for shares of projects to be cashed out in the financial markets and hopefully they themselves will be privatized with the now non performing assets valuated at international prices.

The problem we have is determine the prices of the land based on future earnings which is dependant on net ROI given the extra political risk associated with the Land Laws that is currently in renovation for the 20 year.

Last was 2003, 2001, 1992, 1986.. you get the picture.

Foreigner are only allowed to own 30% of a project.. that gives them no control no voting rights..

To solve this, the companies like Vinacapital, registered vietnamese will act as a foreign agent to buy assets.. perfectly legal. They in turn list on the London Stock Exchange as emerging market funds.

That is Vinacapital's model..

The vietnamese are getting smarter.. new rules, new game.
As part of WTO.. there will have to change the land laws again.. that is they will have institute a property tax structure that requires a yearly property tax. That essentially means that the Party has to admit that private properties exist and can be used as a instrument of trade..

There will longer be "Quyen su dung" but "chu quyen dat" .
This will hopefully be instituted after Bush arrives in November.

As for the financial tower.. it can not be built at this moment. It is all for show right now.. going fishing... the plot of land is too small, it is not economically efficient. Look at all the current building structures. All are square box but it is the best return on investment.. Cheap and condensed.

Wait for Keppel Land of singapore. When they pull the trigger.. you know that realestate is viable, otherwise.. everything at the moment is hot air.

scotty ya sure about evrything you said?
because i heard different .........very optimistic :)

your news are sad unlike the happy news i heard

bang,
I really enjoy your post, it keeps me updated on Vietnam..

Take my news for what its worth but I just talked to my friends AA construction and that is the current market situation..

The real estate market is really in a mess right now.. unfortunately it is a lot of hype.. no really money has been pony up..

the contractors are losing their shirts providing the materials and not getting paid on time..

Scotty, are what you said facts or what you think? Where did you get these info from?

Dear Friend,

Nothing is official in Vietnam.. if it is then it is not the vietnamese way

Scotty, please don't confuse people with unclarified info. I cannot post info that you heard from a friend.

saigon1981,
Let me repeat.. nothing is official.. take it at face value..
If it is the facts then it may true but only half true but true nonetheless.

Scotty, if you pay attention, you will see that most people in this forum always give the sources of the information give out. So in order to make people believe you, u should do the same.
By the way, are you living in Vietnam?

saigon1981.
I thought this was a forum of opinion and not a discussion of facts and research. If all the information is made public then the information from a business standpoint is old news.

You don't have to believe me.. It is only my expressed opinion.. It is meant for discussion and not for verification.

As always.. what is official may not be real.. If we believe everything we read in the newspaper, then all the buildings in Saigon would have been completed already and not withering in the wind for so long.. don't you agree

I am living in Boston , MA..

I will check again of some building is under constructing and take some photographs
Has everyone here seen the Citi Hall with the completed lighting at night? It's beautiful. And do you know which street is the most beautiful in Saigon . I guess there is a street in Phu My Hung new urban. But I don't know its name
I want to post those pitures, Anyone help me how to post a picture?

As always.. what is official may not be real.. If we believe everything we read in the newspaper, then all the buildings in Saigon would have been completed already and not withering in the wind for so long.. don't you agree

Doesnt surprise me.

The commies over there are incompetent, greedy and corrupt so what more would a rational person expect from anything they are involved in....except failure

dongqua, I haven't seen the city hall. Where is it? Take some pics of it pleeeeeeeeeease. As someone who has the privilige of living in Saigon you are obliged to take as many pics as possible.

the cityhall allumination started 2yrs ago......if you go to flickr.com.....type in saigon city.....or saigon hall you'll see lots

The Saigon city hall looks nice but I think its pretty small for such as big city like Saigon. That would be cool if they knocked it down and built a multistorey city hall with traditional east asian architecture elements in it just like the 5 star hotel in Hue. It could certainly become one of the symbols of Saigon.

hey dick
you got something against vn?

i know you loved that design.......probably you looked at it everyday too, because you took the time to search it, cut and pasted it.....went through all the troubles just to tell everybody how much you loved it.

so low and uneducated!!!

Moderators:

Please ban Dickey The Penis.

This is very offensive.

I would agree with that. There is no need for this in this forum..
He should have some respect for others.

Here we have zero tolerance for pathetic troll and spammer like this, there's some ppl who didn't have a mother or father to teach them. sad

i think that's his father dig, american people are so ignorant that's why they always cause war in the middle east

i think that's his father dig, american people are so ignorant that's why they always cause war in the middle east

I too think that the picture is offensive, but your comments is unnecessry.

skynet126:

Dickey the Penis is an idiot already. We don't need another idiot.

hahahahahaha

I have to make a personal project about Architecture for school (subject: "The Influence of Natural Sciences and Mathematics on Society")...I want to present The Financial Towere therefore I need all information and materials that is given...but I can't find that much on the internet...you know...I also have to mentionen mathematical stuff and how the structure is functionen and bla bla bla...I need everything that can fill more than 5 pages! ---> Philosophy, Inspiration, Design, Function, Structure, Conversion, Difficulties, Geographical Position, Construction, Interior, Photos, Specials, Influence of Nature, Influence of Mathematic, Influence on Society,
...yeah everything can be mention as long its about that building and is related to our subject...and all have to be in Englisch...I will contact all architect firms that are involved in this project...hopefully someone can support me and post more HQ pics of construction site in Saigon...stupid idea but is this possible that someone can contact Bitexco in Saigon for me??? :cheers2: I wouldn do everything now to get closer to materials in Vietnam....
I don't want to make a project about Taipeh101, Petronas or another project which already my classmates have choosen and everybody in the world know about it...so the result will be not interesting that much...I want to present something which I can do with love because this is the most important factor to be succeed...above all they will be surprise about this project which will build in "Vietnam"...

you want to fill up 5 pages report on the financial tower?

copy and paste all the comments on this website on that project, all the news about the delays after delays, plus smileys face and angry face, emotional faces and big screaming capital letters ......WO....hehe

Waaa... Cool for Vietnam.... I would love to sit there and have a cup of tea in the future.. (Hopefully, they have some cafeteria or coffee shop up there..) hehehee...

any updates?

You can check for updates on recent Saigon thread partIII :)

de ta noi xao cho Vn bot que nha

well they're building right now, 8 storeys underground, will need lots of time....can not take pictures underground, Vnmese law forbids it

:D

Vu Quang Hoi, the owner of the private company Bitexco is probably one of the richest known Vietnamese based on what his company has been doing. His company built The Manor HCMC and Hanoi, The Manor Officetel for about $235 millions. They are also planning to develop another project in Ho Chi Minh City for $460 millions plus that Financial Tower for another $100 millions. From what I've heard, his company is also planning to build another two 5-star hotels as well

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no one know how many billionaires vn have right now...but many of them are very rich beyond our most flamboyant dreams
I think businessmen like Vu Quang Hoi or Dao Hong Tuyen would have assets worth in the lower several hundred millions USD while some of the top politicians in Vietnam could be billionaries

sqd ban khoe khong?
ban nho minh khong? hehe

ban muon lam politician khong? chung nao ban giau, thanh billionare ban dung quen minh nha. Minh co cong cai nhau voi ban, ban khong duoc quen minh do

Tui chỉ muốn trúng số thôi và nếu tôi trúng thì sẽ đãi lỵ một bữa thịt chó no nê:cheers: :lol:

trui oi, Finacial 68F, ngay nao tui cung an com phia doi dien tren duong Ho Tung mau, Trui oi, toi bi gio no cung im re luon, thay co vai nguoi cong nhan toi lam viec ha, Khong biet khi nao moi lam nua.
Chac may bac k co tien, dag doi nguoi dau tu gop von a....:bash:

sqd minh cau cho ban suot doi khong bao gio trung so.
vi minh biet ban ma trung so thi ban se xay dung rat nhieu bao tang ho chi minh.

Vậy là cuối cùng, khu đất xung quanh Financial Tower cũng đã đang bị đập, thật sự là đang đập ^o^ Mừng wá. Vậy là sắp xây rồi... Chứ thấy nó cứ đem đồ vào đó, rồi dời đi, rồi lại đem vào mà bực cả mình >"<
Cầu trời khấn phật, cho cái FT này xây lẹ lẹ dùm con. Đừng có bị địêp khúc đền bù giải toả nữa. Cái nào cũng vậy, riết chán lắm rồi T__T

Vậy là cuối cùng, khu đất xung quanh Financial Tower cũng đã đang bị đập, thật sự là đang đập ^o^

Thuc su la mot ky cong :applause:

must celebrate the moment when the last structure there 'bi dap'! It's been near 2 yrs!

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8 floors underground
the 9th one is "dia nguc"

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1st time i feel happy when seeing buildings being smashed and destroyed :D

Well, a part of Saigon is now lost forever...but I'm actually happy :)

Thank you for the pics, Lovesaigon!!

What is that blue building next to Bitexco? Is that some new skyscraper?

Mann.... Vietnam sure need more Parking Structure and Parking services... before people killing each other for a parking... ....What a shame....

Hic hic doc Thoi Bao KTSG , thay du an Sailing "du kien hoan thanh" vao nam 2007 ma bay gio mong lam con chua xong >_< chi co Sacombank Tower la co prospective hon ca, con Financial "du kien" nam 2009 xong ( xong moi hay :nuts: ), may bac Bitexco ko biet tinh toan gi ca , nam 2009 ma xay xong em xin goi la ... su phu :D

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ok they just now starting to clear space for the building? i thought by now they should have the the basement done.

Thanks so much Lovesaigon ! Such shots really help Saigonese who are living away know what is going on in our city ! :)

Great!! atleast, I can see some progress.

The aria of financial are cleaned right now? How they will decide to work underground? some one get a new picture?

em off topic 1 chút
em mới coi lại hình ở trang đầu, thấy có cái hình này. Rõ ràng la trang báo viết về HCM city nhưng mà cái hình cuối cúng là Opera Hanoi và Hilton OPera Hotel ngòai Hanoi mà :D
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/143/336206959_21c8814973.jpg?v=0
Ready for foundation nah?

Look at the web of black electric lines. It is ugly. :ohno:

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Ready for foundation nah?

Look at the web of black electric lines. It is ugly. :ohno:

gonna be underground soon :banana: chill~ (hope so :bash: )

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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/143/336206959_21c8814973.jpg?v=0
Ready for foundation nah?

chưa đâu vào đâu cả , đang khoan cọc nhồi hay gì gì đó :)

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LoveSG àh , khi nào Financial mọc lên mấy cái cọc sắt thì hẵng chụp hình , chứ như thế này thì .....:(

BITEXCO VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!

see how The Garden, The Manor and THE FINANCIAL TOWER are looking in real!!!

:runaway:

http://www.crea-tv.com/video_4.swf

everybody for this tower already any updated guy??

vẫn chưa đâu vào đâu cả , nếu có gì mới tui update liền :)

i have a feeling they will chop down the height of this building if they want to continue

yeah i also have a bad feelin' about this,and the authorities wanna restrict the max height of buildings in the old center.

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The Financial Tower is a skyscraper under construction in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam. Its location is in district 1 of the city. The construction addicated in September 2005 and due to be completed after 30 months. The owner is a Vietnamese company - Bitexco. The tower is located on an area of 6,000 m² with the floor area of over 100,000 m². Total cost reaches more than $120 million. Once completion, this will be the tallest building in Vietnam. The tower consists of 74 stories, 300 m in height, 7 basement of 30 m and a ground floor, all made of steel and glass structure. The tower will be shaped in a lotus petal. Lotus is a symbolic of Vietnamese culture. The Financial Tower will be the symbolic of Saigon's dynamic economy and will be for office and trade leasing.

[edit] Office demand in Ho Chi Minh City

Due to the rapid 2-digit growth of Ho Chi Minh City in particular and dynamic development of Vietnam in general, the construction for office in this city has seen a boom. The financial tower will help ease the fever of demand of office for rent in this city. The unit price of A grade office now in Ho Chi Minh City is around $25 to $30 monthly, depends to the location. Foreign and domestic enterprises have invested significantly in many building construction here.

why do the number of stories and height always change? i dont know wat is the official statistics of this building.

It's indeed a nice project for Vietnam!
Hope to see more high rise buildings there in the future coz' just having the financial center will give an impression of a single stick dotting the HCMC's skyline...

QC, Metropolitan Manila

It's indeed a nice project for Vietnam!
Hope to see more high rise buildings there in the future coz' just having the financial center will give an impression of a single stick dotting the HCMC's skyline...

QC, Metropolitan Manila

Hi Khem, welcome you to VN.

Thanks nguyend!
How I wish... I can visit HCMC or Hanoi in 5 years time... I guess it will be a lot different and more modern.
Hope to see more updates of the financial center in the future. Did it top-off already? It will become one of your country's landmarks once it's finished.

have they started construction yet?

the construction is under way ppl, be patient.

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I've nerver seen one of the building projects in VN completed in time. I hope to see one in my life time :-) .

I've nerver seen one of the building projects in VN completed in time. I hope to see one in my life time :-) .

oh man, be optimistic :lol: it have been part of our culture :banana:

Thanks nguyend!
How I wish... I can visit HCMC or Hanoi in 5 years time... I guess it will be a lot different and more modern.
Hope to see more updates of the financial center in the future. Did it top-off already? It will become one of your country's landmarks once it's finished.

it will not be the country's landmark...
there are 2 buildings over 60 storeys in saigon...hanoi has 1 ....60 storeys and 1 over 70 storeys.....hopefully they will get pass the bureaucrat in vn soon

how come there are a lot of electrical lines and so close to the ground? i usually see them higher.

wat is the other 60s one bang?? is it the Saigon plaza?? I dont think it'll become real project.
for now saigon has these big ones (>40s) ongoing: FT61 (or 66,67??)st,MC40s,Times Square 40s,and hope that they will find another location for the XiPArk Tower (an ideal place is to put in PhuMyHung)

cu da nay thi caon lau Financial moi xay xong +_+

source: AREP

AREP continues its expansion into South East Asia and has embarked on a major programme in Vietnam with the Financial Tower in Ho-Chi-Minh City.
The 68-floor tower designed for mixed office and trade use has a total surface area of 120,000m². With its resolutely contemporary design, the tower evokes the natural world (the lotus flower) and cultural references, with the traditional wooden shutters motif, used to soften the play of light on the façade.

http://www.arep.fr/images/Actualites/Actu1/1_E.jpg

61,69,70 and now 68 floors??? wat is the official height??

if they don't build it today they'll build it tomorrow ..................when economy slow down and all the foreign investors pulled out from VN....the we'll have no need to build anything.......what's your hurry?.......in Vn things are very slow and relaxed.

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it would look nicer @ night than the previous design.
it looks like a Lamp :))

looks fatter.

it looks like a torch to me
anyone has the developer email?
give me I'll write to him and explain why he should build them right here right now

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can't tell you but i'm sure it will be very emotional.
and lots of suck up.

ps. if things didn't work out and shall i write the 2nd mail.......then this one will have lots of cursing, violence verbs and furocious adverbs.....and low class adjectives....plus lots of MSN slangs

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where everybody go no one updae this cmon people stop being lazy

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xem ra van chua den dau ca...chan that.

Looks like it is Hanoi that is going to have the first 60+ storey building in Vietnam. I am a bit afraid that the financial tower is a lost cause now. Maybe they should change to something smaller. I decent 15 storey office building for $5-20m would definitely improve the look of the city center.

Hanoi currently has like 5 approved projects of atleast 60 storeys but I don't care whatever the news have said, I would be really surprised if even 1 got built before 2010. In fact, I would be really surprised if even 1 building of atleast 150 m in Vietnam got built before 2010. I hope that I'm totally wrong on this. :ohno:

What is the matter with Bitexco anyway? The luxury condo and grade A office market in Vietnam is booming , and given that Bitexco probably making lots of money ,why this project is so slow ?

Maybe they are still building the basement. After all, there are supposed to be 6 undeground floors which can take a while to finish. It would be great if someone could take a picture of the whole construction area. If there is some kind of entrance to the undeground that would probably mean that they are still doing the basement.

nhin co ve nhu la chua da`o duoc centimet nao het do...equipment chat 1 dong.

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=36811
Finacial Tower is on top 100 buildings which is tallest in the world.
Order number of Financial is 101 because some projects are similar.
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The buildings are tallest Vietnam.
http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?
And the buildings are tallest in the world.
http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?

Cozak, you got one thing wrong. You're saying the Financial Tower is in the top 100 tallest buildings. The word "is" implies the building has already been built. To be perfectly honest, the current construction progress implies its not going to be built for at least another 3 years.

current status:
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Ok, I was wrong. Maybe Financial Tower will be in the top 100 tallest buidings in the future.

[QUOTE=cozak;13603172]http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=36811
Finacial Tower is on top 100 buildings which is tallest in the world.

I hope it will be one of 100 buildings tallest on the word. We pide of it.But i think when finish, there are many buildings from other countries, so it is difficult for it to become one of the 100 buildings tallest....

These are all projects of buildings of future. http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?m7456 And We can see Financial Tower is in this group. (There are 789 projects and buildings which have been being listing from 1900s to future.) Order number of Financial is 101 because some projects are similar.

there are about more than 30 towers u/c that 300m+,and the number's increasing gradually each year. So if the saigon FT cannot be finished before 1010,it surely will stand out of the top 100 (assuming that it's 300m)

These are 102 buildings which are tallest in the world. I rank them from tall to short. Some projects were canceled, some haven't executed the work yet, some are similiar. If situation remain unchanged, Bitexco will be ranked about 83.
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Madinat Al Arab, Dubai Waterfront
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Heights Value Source / Comments

Spire 1,200.0 m
2. Burj Dubai
1 Burj Dubai Boulevard
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
http://burjdubai.com/
Began 2004
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 162
Basement Floors 2
Floor Area 517,240 m²
Heights Value Source / Comments

Spire 807.7 m Arabtec


Concrete structure 574.4 m
3. Torre Solar
Ciudad Real CLM Spain
Begin 2007
End 2010

Heights Value Source / Comments

Roof 750.0 m
4. Ray of the Century Sightseeing Tower
世纪之光观光塔 / 广州电视观光塔(方案11)
Haizhu District
Guangzhou GD China
http://www.gzcc.gov.cn/TVTower...
Proposed 2010
Heights Value Source / Comments

Antenna 664.0 m http://www.gzcc.gov.cn/


Roof 509.0 m http://www.gzcc.gov.cn/

5. KVLY/KTHI TV Mast
3 miles west of Blanchard, ND
Blanchard ND United States
http://www.kvlytv11.com/info/i...
Status: built

Began 1963
Finished 1963
Elevator Count 1
Heights Value Source / Comments

Antenna 628.8 m http://www.kvlytv11.com/
tip of structure

Steel tower 594.4 m Federal Communications Commission
tip of iron/steel tower
6. KXJB - TV Tower
Galesburg ND United States
http://www.kx4.com/kxjb_towerr...
Status: built
Began 1998
Finished 1998
Elevator Count 1
Heights Value Source / Comments

Antenna 627.9 m FCC
tip of antenna

Steel tower 589.8 m FCC
tip of iron/steel tower
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14001 RIVER RD .65 MI E
Walnut Grove CA United States
http://www.kxtv10.com/
Began 1999
Finished 2000
Heights Value Source / Comments

Antenna 624.5 m FCC
8.Sumida Tower
すみだタワー
1 Oshiage, Sumida-ku
Tokyo TKY Japan
http://www.sumida-tower.jp/ind...
End 2011
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 610.0 m Sumida City
Top floor 450.0 m Tokyo Shutoken Mirai Chizu
Lower observation deck 350.0 m Tokyo Shutoken Mirai Chizu
9. Incheon Towers
Incheon IC South Korea


Begin 2006
End 2010
Floor Count 151
Heights Value Source / Comments

Roof 610.0 m
10. Guangzhou TV & Sightseeing Tower
广 州 电 视 观 光 塔
Yuejiang Road West / Yiyuan Road, Haizhu District
Guangzhou GD China
Began 2005
Will finish 2009
Floor Count 37
Basement Floors 2
Floor Area 114,054 m²
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 610.0 m Guangzhou Construction Bidding Project Center
Roof 454.0 m Guangzhou Construction Bidding Project Center
1/F 6.8 m Guangzhou Construction Bidding Project Center
1/B -5.0 m Guangzhou Construction Bidding Project Center
2/B -10.0 m Guangzhou Construction Bidding Project Center
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446 East North Water Street
Chicago IL United States
Begin 2007
End 2010
Floor Count 150
Floor Area 81,470 m²
Units / Rooms 1,300
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 609.6 m
12.Beitler Telecom Tower
Chicago IL United States

Proposed 2009
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 609.7 m Chicago Tribune
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Üç Ýmparatorluk Kulesi
Kazliçeþme Sahilyolu
Istanbul Turkey
Status: vision
Floor Count 150
Heights Value Source / Comments

Roof 600.0 m
14.One Trump World Trade Center
World Trade Center, Lower Manhattan
New York City NY United States
Floor Count 111
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 566.3 m
Roof 449.6 m
15.Chicago Central Tower
Chicago IL United States
Began 2006
Finished 2009
Floor Count 120
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 565.0 m
Roof 480.0 m
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301 Front Street West
Toronto ON Canada
Began 1973
Finished 1976
Elevator Count 6
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 553.3 m Official website
Roof 457.2 m
Top of the concrete core
Top floor 446.5 m Official website
"Skypod", 147 floor level
Restaurant 351.0 m
Observation deck 346.0 m Official website
Main observation deck, "Look Out Level", 114 floor level
Glass floor 342.0 m Official website
113 floor level
Microwave receptors 338.0 m Official Website
Btm. of pod/receptor 336.0 m
17. One World Trade Center
Block #88, Financial District
New York City NY United States
http://www.wtc.com/
Began 2006
Will finish 2011
Floor Count 108
Basement Floors 4
Floors to Floor 4 m
Floor Area 241,548 m²
Heights Value Source / Comments

Antenna 541.3 m Skidmore, Owings & Merrill
18.Sears Tower
233 South Wacker Drive
Chicago IL United States
http://searstower.com/
Began 1972
Finished 1974
Floor Count 108
Basement Floors 3
Floors to Floor 4 m
Floor Area 418,064 m²
Elevator Count 104
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 527.3 m FCC Reg. #1032959, CTBUH
West antenna
Lower antenna 521.1 m FCC Reg. #1032960
East antenna
Antenna mounts 462.7 m
Original construction
19.One World Trade Center
1 World Trade Center, Church Street
New York City NY United States
Began 1966
Finished 1972
Destroyed 2001
Floor Count 110
Floor Area 400,000 m²
Elevator Count 99
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 526.3 m Federal Communications Commission
20.Busan Lotte Tower
20, Chungang-Dong 7Ga, Chung-Gu
Busan BS South Korea
Begin 2007
End 2013
Floor Count 107
Basement Floors 6
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 510.2 m Emporis.com

21.Taipei 101
臺北101
8 Sung-Chih Road, Hsin-Yi District
Taipei Taiwan
http://www.tfc101.com.tw/
Began 1999
Finished 2004
Floor Count 101
Basement Floors 5
Floor Area 412,500 m²
Elevator Count 61
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 508.0 m
Roof 448.0 m Architect plans
22.Shanghai World Financial Center
上海(秀仕)环球金融中心
Century Boulevard, Pudong New Area
Shanghai SH China
http://www.shanghaihills.com/
Began 1997
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 101
Basement Floors 3
Floor Area 377,300 m²
Elevator Count 31
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 491.9 m
Hole diameter 50.0 m mori.co.jp
23.California Sky Tower
Los Angeles CA United States
Began 2006
Finished 2009
Floor Count 103
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 489.0 m
Roof 450.0 m
24.International Commerce Center
環 球 貿 易 廣 場
Nga Cheung Road &amp; Austin Road West
Hong Kong HK China
http://union-square.com.hk/
Began 2002
Will finish 2010
Floor Count 108
Basement Floors 4
Floor Area 262,176 m²
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 484.0 m Union Square Development
Includes 23m podium, also includes parapet
25.Burj Al Alam
Business Bay
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
http://www.burjalalam.com
Status: proposed
Begin 2006
End 2009
Floor Count 108
Elevator Count 30
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 484.0 m Burj Al Alam
Description
Architect: Nihon
Developer: Fortune Group
26.Ningbo Twin Towers 1
Ningbo ZJ China
End 2008
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 480.0 m

27.Port Tower B
Karachi Pakistan
Begin 2004
End 2011
Floor Count 40
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 450.0 m
28.Greenland Square Zifeng Tower
绿地广场•紫峰大厦
Gulou Square
Nanjing JS China
http://www.njglgroup.com/
Began 2005
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 69
Basement Floors 2
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 450.0 m http://www.cnffww.com
29.Two Trump World Trade Center
New York City NY United States
Floor Count 111
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 449.6 m
30.Empire State Building
350 Fifth Avenue
New York City NY United States
http://www.esbnyc.com/
Began 1930
Finished 1931
Floor Count 102
Basement Floors 1
Floors to Floor 4 m
Floor Area 208,879 m²
Cubical Space 1,047,723 m³
Elevator Count 73
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 448.7 m CTBUH
Increased from 443 meters.
31.FederationTower
Федерация
Krasnopresnenskaya embankment, 16
Moscow Russia
http://www.miraxcity.com
Began 2003
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 93
Basement Floors 5
Floor Area 423,000 m²
Elevator Count 45
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 448.2 m Spire of tower C.
32.Dubai Towers Doha
Doha Qatar
Began 2005
Will finish 2009
Floor Count 80
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 439.0 m
33.Guangzhou Twin Towers West Tower
广 州 双 子 塔 西 塔
Zhujiang Avenue West, Tianhe District
Guangzhou GD China
Began 2005
Will finish 2009
Floor Count 103
Basement Floors 4
Floor Area 448,000 m²
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 432.0 m
34.Unnamed Residential Tower
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Proposed 2009
Floor Count 111
35.Dalian International Trade Center
大连国际贸易中心大厦
Dalian LN China
http://www.dlhongfu.com
Began 2003
Finished 2007
Floor Count 78
Basement Floors 5
Floor Area 288,566 m²
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 420.0 m
Roof 325.1 m
36.Trump International Hotel & Tower
401 North Wabash Avenue
Chicago IL United States
http://www.trumpchicago.com/
Began 2005
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 92
Basement Floors 4
Elevator Count 26
Units / Rooms 758
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 415.1 m to tip of spire
Roof 356.9 m to highest roof deck
Main roof 344.7 m to main roof deck
37.Badriya Tower
Sheihk Zayed Road
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Proposed 2007
Floor Count 96
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 415.0 m
38.Princess Tower
Area 392-Plot Marsa Dubai
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Began 2005
Will finish 2009
Floor Count 107
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 414.0 m
39+40.Al Hamra Tower
Kuwait City Kuwait
Began 2005
Will finish 2009
Floor Count 77
Floor Area 300,000 m²
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 412.0 m Management
41.New World Trade Center - 200 Greenwich
200 Greenwich Street, Financial District
New York City NY United States
http://www.wtc.com/
Begin 2007
End 2012
Floor Count 78
Basement Floors 4
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 408.2 m Silverstein Properties, Inc.
42.New World Trade Center - 175 Greenwich
175 Greenwich Street, Financial District
New York City NY United States
http://www.wtc.com/
Begin 2007
End 2011
Floor Count 71
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 382.6 m Silverstein Properties, Inc.
To the four corner antennas
Roof 352.1 m Silverstein Properties, Inc.
43.Ice Tower
Avenida de Balboa, Costa del Este
Panama City Panama
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 381.0 m Emporis.com
44.Sky Tower
Al Reem Island
Abu Dhabi AD United Arab Emirates
Began 2006
Will finish 2009
Floor Count 83
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 379.0 m Emporis.com
45.Empire World Towers
330 Biscayne Boulevard
Miami FL United States
End 2010
Floor Count 106
Units / Rooms 750
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 365.8 m Emporis.com
46.Amadeusturm
Vienna WI Austria
Began 2005
Finished 2010
Floor Count 79
Basement Floors 10
47.Al Sharq Tower
Sheikh Zayed Road
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Begin 2006
End 2009
Floor Count 100
Units / Rooms 268
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 360.0 m
48.Almas Tower
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Began 2005
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 74
Basement Floors 5
Elevator Count 33
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 360.0 m Emporis.com
49.Aon Center
200 East Randolph Street
Chicago IL United States
Began 1970
Finished 1973
Floor Count 83
Basement Floors 5
Floors to Floor 4 m
Floor Area 334,448 m²
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 346.3 m
Main roof 342.3 m
50.Palacio de la Bahia
Av. Balboa, Av. México, 29 Este y 30 Este, La exposición
Panama City Panama
http://www.palaciobahia.com/ma...
Proposed 2009
Floor Count 93
Units / Rooms 333
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 353.0 m
51.The Torch
Area 392- A5A Block Marsa Dubai
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 84
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 345.0 m
52.80 South Street
80 South Street
New York City NY United States
http://www.80southstreet.net/
End 2009
Floor Count 56
Units / Rooms 10
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 342.3 m Developer in article
Roof 251.8 m Developer in article
53.Najd Tower
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Proposed 2008
Floor Count 82
Units / Rooms 496
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 340.0 m emporis.com
54.Heifei Emerald TV Tower
合肥翡翠电视塔
Hefei AH China
Will finish 2008
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 339.0 m
55.Torrena
Lopez Mateos #3000 x Mariano Otero
Zapopan JAL Mexico
http://www.torrena.com.mx/
Began 2005
Finished 2009
Floor Count 57
Basement Floors 5
Floor Area 17,720 m²
Elevator Count 11
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 336.5 m Official website
56.Rose Tower
105 Sheikh Zayed Road
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Status: built
Began 2004
Finished 2007
Floor Count 72
Basement Floors 1
Floor Area 51,445 m²
Units / Rooms 684
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 333.2 m Emporis.com
57.The Index
Plot- DIFC
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Began 2005
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 80
Floor Area 163,471 m²
Elevator Count 31
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 328.0 m
58.Baiyoke Tower II
222 Rajprarop Road, Rajthevee
Bangkok Thailand
Began 1990
Finished 1997
Floor Count 85
Basement Floors 3
Units / Rooms 673
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 328.0 m skyscrapers.com
59.Scandinavian Tower
Hyllievång
Malmö Sweden
Status: cancelled
Proposed 2004
Floor Count 85
Floor Area 76,000 m²
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 325.0 m 1997 design
Roof 274.0 m 1997 design
60.Hörbymasten
Hörby Sweden
Finished 1959
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 323.0 m
61.Signature Tower
501 Church Street
Nashville TN United States
http://signaturetowernashville...
Begin 2006
End 2009
Floor Count 65
Units / Rooms 750
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 320.6 m Nashville Business Journal - July 18, 2006
62.Four Seasons Centre
Kuala Lumpur KL Malaysia
End 2010
Floor Count 70
63.Chrysler Building
405 Lexington Avenue
New York City NY United States
Began 1928
Finished 1930
Floor Count 77
Floor Area 111,201 m²
Elevator Count 34
Heights Value Source / Comments

Spire 318.9 m Building lobby exhibition
64.Aspire Tower
Sports City
Doha Qatar
http://www.besix.com/en/market...
Began 2005
Finished 2006
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 318.0 m Developer
65.Ocean Heights
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Began 2005
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 82
Units / Rooms 672
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 310.0 m Emporis.com
66.St. Petersburg TV Tower
St. Petersburg Russia
Finished 1963
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 310.0 m
67.Torre Valencia
Valencia VAL Spain
End 2010
Floor Count 81
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 308.0 m
68.Burj Dubai Lake Hotel & Serviced Apartments
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 63
Units / Rooms 824
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 306.0 m
69.Transbay Terminal Tower
Fremont Street at Mission Street
San Francisco CA United States
End 2008
Floor Count 70
Units / Rooms 350
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 304.8 m San Francisco Chronicle
70.China World Trade Center Tower 3
国贸3期/国际贸易中心3期
1 Jian Guo Men Wai Avenue
Beijing BJ China
Began 2005
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 68
Elevator Count 30
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 301.8 m Architectural Record - June 15, 2006
71.Commerzbank Tower
Commerzbank Zentrale
Am Kaiserplatz, 60005
Frankfurt/Main HE Germany
https://www.commerzbank.com/
Began 1994
Finished 1997
Floor Count 53
Basement Floors 2
Floor Area 86,000 m²
Cubical Space 538,000 m³
Elevator Count 27
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 300.1 m
72.Torre Gran Costanera
Avenida Costanera / Andrés Bello
Santiago RM Chile
Began 2006
Will finish 2010
Floor Count 60
Basement Floors 6
Floors to Floor 4 m
Floor Area 128,000 m²
Elevator Count 18
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 300.0 m Emporis.com
73.Dubai Towers-Istanbul 1
Istanbul Turkey
http://www.dubaitowers-istanbu...
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 300.0 m http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/347074.asp
74.Arraya 2
Kuwait City Kuwait
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 56
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 300.0 m
75.Eurasia
Krasnopresnenskaya embankment, plot 12
Moscow Russia
Began 2004
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 67
Basement Floors 5
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 300.0 m
76.Potsdamer Turm
Berlin BE Germany
Began 2006
Finished 2008
Floor Count 65
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 300.0 m
77.Firalia Tower
Greater London ENG United Kingdom
Began 2005
Finished 2007
Floor Count 80
Basement Floors 2
Floors to Floor 3 m
Elevator Count 8
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 300.0 m
Top floor 273.0 m
78.Eureka Tower
1 Riverside Quay
Greater Melbourne VIC Australia
http://www.eurekatower.com.au/
Began 2001
Finished 2006
Floor Count 91
Basement Floors 1
Elevator Count 13
Units / Rooms 560
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 300.0 m eurekatower.com.au
Observation deck 285.0 m eurekatower.com.au
Floor 87 278.0 m
79.Kingdom Centre
Al-Urubah Road
Riyadh Saudi Arabia
Began 1999
Finished 2002
Floor Count 41
Basement Floors 2
Floors to Floor 4 m
Floor Area 185,000 m²
Elevator Count 45
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 300.0 m Elevation
Top floor 290.4 m Elevation
80.Comcast Center
1701 John F Kennedy Blvd
Philadelphia PA United States
Began 2005
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 57
Floor Area 165,000 m²
Elevator Count 35
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 297.2 m
81.Emirates Crown
Area 392- Plot 3CA Marsa Dubai
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Began 2005
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 63
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 296.0 m Emporis
82.Landmark Tower
ランドマークタワー
2-2-1 Minato-Mirai, Nishi-ku
Yokohama KNG Japan
http://www.landmark.ne.jp/
Began 1990
Finished 1993
Floor Count 70
Basement Floors 3
Floor Area 392,000 m²
Cubical Space 2,000,000 m³
Elevator Count 79
Units / Rooms 603
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 295.8 m
Dampers 282.0 m skyscrapers.com
83. Bitexco Tower
Ho Chi Minh City Vietnam
Began 2007
Will finish 2009
Floor Count 61
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 292.0 m Emporis
84.Dongguan TBA Building
东莞台商会馆
Dongguan Avenue
Dongguan GD China
Began 2005
Will finish 2007
Floor Count 68
Floor Area 220,000 m²
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 289.0 m www.upo.com.cn
85.New World Trade Center - 150 Greenwich
150 Greenwich Street, Financial District
New York City NY United States
http://www.wtc.com/
Begin 2008
End 2011
Floor Count 61
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 288.7 m Silverstein Properties, Inc.
86.The Pinnacle
22-24 Bishopsgate, City of London, EC2
Greater London ENG United Kingdom
End 2011
Floor Count 63
Floor Area 88,000 m²
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 288.0 m
87.Ivana Las Vegas
2427 Las Vegas Boulevard South
Las Vegas NV United States
Proposed 2009
Floor Count 73
Units / Rooms 951
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 287.4 m PropertyLine.com
Roof 281.3 m City Of Las Vegas Project Directory 06/09/06
88.Mövenpick Dubai Pearl
Al Sufouh Road
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Began 2005
Finished 2008
Floor Count 60
Basement Floors 2
Units / Rooms 760
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 287.0 m
89.Bloomberg Tower
731 Lexington Avenue
New York City NY United States
Began 2001
Finished 2005
Floor Count 54
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 286.8 m
Roof 245.7 m
Top floor 240.4 m
90.Millenium Tower
Al Goze, Sheikh Zayed Road
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
Finished 2006
Floor Count 62
Basement Floors 1
Floor Area 99,800 m²
Units / Rooms 407
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 285.0 m WS Atkins & Partners
91.Greenland Square
郑州会展宾馆
CBD, Zhengdong New District
Zhengzhou HA China
Began 2006
Will finish 2009
Floor Count 63
Basement Floors 3
Floor Area 167,804 m²
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 280.1 m Emporis.com
92.Georgia Tbilisi TV Broadcasting Tower
Tbilisi Georgia
http://www.iberiapac.ge/tvtowe...
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 274.5 m
Roof 167.0 m
93.Diamond of Istanbul
Maslak Teras
Büyükdere Avenue
Istanbul Turkey
Began 2003
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 53
Basement Floors 8
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 270.1 m
Top floor 217.1 m
Panoramic restaurant 213.1 m
Sky garden 205.1 m
94.Diamond of Istanbul
Maslak Teras
Büyükdere Avenue
Istanbul Turkey
Began 2003
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 53
Basement Floors 8
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 270.1 m
95.Nikko Hotel Dubai
Sheikh Zayed Road
Dubai DU United Arab Emirates
http://wwd.jalhotels.co.jp/noh...
Began 2005
Will finish 2008
Floor Count 60
Floor Area 66,451 m²
Units / Rooms 487
Heights Value Source / Comments
Spire 270.1 m Empris.com
96.IDS Center
80 8th Street South
Minneapolis MN United States
Began 1968
Finished 1973
Floor Count 55
Basement Floors 5
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 270.1 m FCC Reg. #1029018
97.World Trade Commerce City
世贸商城
Nanning GX China
Began 2003
Finished 2006
Floor Count 66
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 218.0 m http://www.newgx.com.cn
98.Hillbrow Tower
2001
Johannesburg GP South Africa
http://www.joburg.org.za/aug_2...
Began 1968
Finished 1971
Floor Count 9
Elevator Count 3
Heights Value Source / Comments
Antenna 269.0 m
99. New World Trade Center - 130 Liberty
130 Liberty Street, Financial District
New York City NY United States
http://www.wtc.com/
Begin 2009
End 2013
Floor Count 57
100. Torre Castellon
Valencia VAL Spain
End 2010
Floor Count 71
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 266.0 m
101.Met 3
200 SE 2nd Street
Miami FL United States
http://metropolitanmiami.com/
Began 2006
Will finish 2009
Floor Count 75
Units / Rooms 650
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 264.0 m Emporis.com
102.DLI 63 Building
63 빌딩
60 Yeouido-dong
Seoul SU South Korea
http://www.63city.co.kr/
Began 1979
Finished 1985
Floor Count 60
Basement Floors 3
Heights Value Source / Comments
Roof 249.0 m Emporis

de link vao doc duoc roi,lam vay kho doc qua.

an other pic from the street side-view:
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z297/Fredi1978/CIMG0197.jpg

if they can keep up w this speed,hopefully it can rise by the end of this yr...anh mong chờ mùa thu...

Does anyone have a good render of The Financial Tower?
Which color is Financial Tower: green or blue?

Dont you guys think the building is a bit skinny for it's height?

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa156/justsaythatisthat/CIMG0560.jpg

With the current progress, will the Financial Tower be completed on time (by the 2th quarter, 2009)? :ohno:

yeah upon completion they will try to squeeze money out from the investor by saying:
your building is too tall exceeding the limit height for old saigon district....so you need to chop it down or pay fines

or

you forget to get permit or stamp when u file for constructing that building so you need to pay fines

or

your building is eating up all the power in the city so you will have to pay double or tripple the eletricity bill

or

your building is too tall cover up the saigon river view......u need to pay fine.

or your builfing is too talll and does not meet the earth quake safety standard......

oooo these commies are really good at making up "laws"

^^^^ hahaha yes they sure are. especially when it comes to money.

The Financial Tower looks like the Manera Telekom so much :weird:

The Financial Tower
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa156/justsaythatisthat/FinancialTower.jpg

The Manera Telekom
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa156/justsaythatisthat/ManeraTelekom.jpg

hi everyone!!! i can't wait for the financial tower to finish construction. it's going to look beautiful but i was wondering what the specific details on the building are such as the official height of the building. i searched everywhere but didn't find any concrete info.

bump for this thread^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

hi everyone!!! i can't wait for the financial tower to finish construction. it's going to look beautiful but i was wondering what the specific details on the building are such as the official height of the building. i searched everywhere but didn't find any concrete info.

bump for this thread^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Financial_Tower_in_Hochiminh_city

http://www.emporis.com/ge/wm/ci/bu/sk/li/?id=100487&bt=2&ht=2&sro=1

they're not the same
our's is in the shape of a lotus, their's is in the shape of a banana .......oh yeah

Any update?

Does the new Financial tower design resembles a giant toilet to anyone?

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8826/bitexcoyl1.png



Or is it just me? :nuts:

..

Does any one see it as a lotus flower?
I don't.The helipad just ruins it all.

can't blame bitexco,they're a domestic company after all.

Does the new Financial tower design resembles a giant toilet to anyone?

Or is it just me? :nuts:

yeah little Kid, every buildings in Vietnam are cheap looking,...

Well... for me it looks like a missile ready to be launched...
It's indeed a great contrast when compared to its surroundings...
It's just my opinion though.

that area u have to imagine by 2010, there will be 3-4 , 40 storeys towers right next to that finnancial building.
the timesquare 2 buildings, the GMC 1, hopefully the bank on Nguyen Hue 40 storeys, Kim DO hotel 40 storeys, Majestic 29 storeys......and hopefully saigon centre pick up with the secon phrase so down town saigon won't look this empty

Does the new Financial tower design resembles a giant toilet to anyone?

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8826/bitexcoyl1.png



Or is it just me? :nuts:

of course it is, why ya think uncle ho is walking toward it?

Yah, without the helipad the structure does look a bit more like a lotus flower.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3158/bitexcoiv6.png

But with the helipad the structure looks less boring.

Hmm... :nuts:

I wonder if they thought of sharing this render to another architecture firm, more preferably a renown one. Maybe someone can work around the orginal design to reduce the "toilet bowl" look, work towards a lotus flower appearance, and who knows, they may even come up with something better.

Is this the newest render?

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6224/bitexcodu3.png

It looks better I guess, but still not a lotus flower.

By the way, why is the lotus flower unblossom? Isn't that a bad thing? Why not just built a sporting arena in Thu Thiem with a design inspired by a blossom lotus flower? I can actually invision that better.

double

Personally I reckon this tower is an awesome one, nice design. We don't even need to care about the inspiration of the design as long as it's a fabulous building.
Saigon will be surely beautiful with this high building added in the skyline :banana:

Personally I reckon this tower is an awesome one, nice design. We don't even need to care about the inspiration of the design as long as it's a fabulous building.
Saigon will be surely beautiful with this high building added in the skyline :banana:

Yah, I like the newest render much better. I can actually see it rise up.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6224/bitexcodu3.png

any updates for it?
I wanna see how it's been now ...
Hopefully they will have finished the basement by next month ...

seriously, people should STOP bringing back this topic. This project is current NOT underconstruction.

^^ u'r wrong,it's really u/c and in good progress (at the moment)

^^ u'r wrong,it's really u/c and in good progress (at the moment)
Are you serious? What did you see at the construction site?

I knew it's actually U/C. But seems like the progress is slow like hell ... I bet they can't get it done within 18 months as the compromise!

it's getting annoying sometime....

can u believe it? they're in hanoi and they know that the tower is not underconstruction, when us saigonese see construction in progress

^^ u'r wrong,it's really u/c and in good progress (at the moment)

Hope you're right :sly:

So do I ...
Hope they will get it done by the end of 2009 ... even though I'm not really optimistic about that very aspect ...

any update people

any updates ? Hope everything is doing good. :)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1053/1397541268_c90168249b.jpg?v=0

How is it now? Any remarkable progress ? :)

end of 07 and hasnt risenup yet.
This one cannot be finished by 2010 at this rate.

before I heard a rumour that Bitexco were determined to complete this tower within 18 months :lol:

can anyone update us on this project? those living in saigon?