from Fin Review

The Phillip Court building overlooking Hyde Park in the Sydney CBD is expected to be redeveloped into residential apartments. The building was recently acquired by Andrew Richardson and Tjeerd la Grouw, who plan to develop an 'up market' residential building to be named the 'Dakota Building' after a site in New York.the tower will rise 15 storeys with 1 unit per floor and will be located next to Sheraton on the Park.There is a current 7 storey office bldg on the site which will be demolished!

sorry no pix. it hasnt even been lodged at council yet, but sounds original!

A good area of town to put these upmarket apartments. Not far from the designer stores of Castleragh Street and the shopping of the Pitt St Mall.

The developer wants the elizabeth st to have highrise apartments opposite Hyde Park, just like situation in New yorks central park. I think that would look cool!
:D

It's a great idea, and I think it will sure go off in Sydney, probably the only city in Australia that it would. :)

oo nice. good veiws aswell.:)

It will have high floor to ceiling heights and fine exterior detailing including a "rooftop treatment" reflecting the era on which it is modelled.
Apartments will be "some of the most expensive in Australia."

Cool !

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The apartments on the upper levels should have some harbour views.

Dakota; sounds nicely international already....but hey, that is the name of the apartment building Beetle John Lennon was shot outside of in N.Y.C. in 1979.

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some maniac might want to immulate the killing by killing a Oz celeb outside front when Dakota is completed. hopefully someone like lee kernigan!lol

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LOL ..... Lee Kernigan! Actually I could think up quite a few for a firing squad outside this envisaged Dakota
;)

Sounds cool! I have always liked "Hyde Park Regency" which overlooks Hyde Park South, and kind of has a Central Park feel about it:

http://www.micos.com.au/images/107_hpregency.jpg

So anything more along this sort of style is very welcome! :)

Has anybody got a picture of the building that will be demolished for "The Dakota"?

here ya go finn! i just happen to take this friday!
The current bldg rises 8 storeys/31m. It has nice bay windows but thats about it!
The new tower will only rise to 45m due to height restrictions along Elizabeth st. but some levels are permitted above this only if its set back and falls within sun plane.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid48/p663b760874b54074656b827e4f71d056/fcbb7368.jpg

neato! ohhhhhhhhhh, i wish all buildings could be fully built and ready to be occupied in a time that's, say, always lower than six months. That would be cool. I hate waiting for buildings to be constructed!

A number of buildings along that section of Hyde Park have the upper levels stepped backwards as Finn & Cul point out. That area has a NYC feel to it and looks like a scaled down version around Central Park.......

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Whats the latest with this development?

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nothing yet. still in ealry design stage. they will lodge this year sometime!

The DA will be lodged soon on this baby! The model maker is starting on model! It has a 60m height limitation for the site (due to shadowing on Hyde Park).
The bldg will be called DAKOTA!
cant wait!

Jesus!!! So many! Do you think they're trying to hurry them along .. get them in the pipeline before the market turns down? if it does?

hk

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Sydney does ok even in "down turns" it always seems to recover ok. probably due to the sheer size of CBD along with its popularity!

So the hieght limit is 60m but the developer is only taking advantage of 45m :( :?

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its 45m at street frontage and can go higher as it steps back away like all the other highrise on Elizabeth street.

S0 the developer is only takiing is it takin' it there to 45m high and a bit here 'n there.

DAKOTA APARTMENTS ARE IN!!!
the 16level/52m tall bldg was lodeged today. Model is in1 ill take a pic soon! looks good! it rises to 45m setback with nextdoors Sheraton and sets back 3 floors to 52m high.

model pix-

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/05/194026.jpg

it will have nice views of park and cathedral!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/126mvc-164s-med.jpg

I like the step up on the roof and the wavy patterns.

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yeah, very reminescent of NORTH apts. this will be a nice addition to Elizabeth street which is fast becoming a residential precinct.

Why not demolish one more building on the right and make Dakota wider? Looks like an average apartment box at least externally....It is squeezed like Ercole Pallazetti's Georgia Apts in Kent St! Is it gonna be one apartment per floor??

It would be cool to have something like real Dakota Apts in Central Park....John Lennon used to live there....

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The dakota tower was named after the one in NY! its across from a park just like NYC.
The developers for Dakota tower only bought the small site to build there tower.The neighbouring two sites along Elizabeth st will devloped also over next few years,.

Quote by CULWULA:

"The developers for Dakota Tower only bought the small site to build their tower. The neighbouring two sites along Elizabeth Street will developed also over next few years."

CULWULLA, what are the neighbouring 2 sites and do you know at this stage what they will be developed as?

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"The developers for Dakota Tower only bought the small site to build their tower. The neighbouring two sites along Elizabeth Street will developed also over next few years."

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nothing in yet, but they can be developed to 15storeys high. so they are just waiting to be developed! the current bldgs are not of heritage value.

Yeah, the Dakota Building is a stunner.
It was built on the corner of West 72nd and Central Park West in 1884 and was New York' first luxury apartment building. When complete it was sorrounded by squatters + farmland !
It has only 65 apartments. Lots of famous residents lived there including, reputedly, the ghost of Boris Karloff !
John Lennon lived there with Yoko ( who still lives there) . He was shot and killed outside the Dakota- right behind the iron gates on the corner.
The John Lennon Memorial is right over the road in Central Park- a beautiful spot, although spoilt by hoardes of fucking tourists who hop off tour buses, make lots of noise, get a token picture and leave....

was lucky to grab this latest render from council!
the dakota will have a goldish/bronze facade! cool

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/07/205387.jpg

Beautiful rendering. I love the gold windows. It's very upmarket too.

Wow I love the gold tint on the windows.... I wonder how many apartments in the building?????

Very upmarket. Well designed!!!

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Wow I love the gold tint on the windows.... I wonder how many apartments in the building?????
65!

Originally posted by CULWULLA
65!

How many would that equate to on each floor?

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large spread in todays SMH. It mentions Dakota will start construction soon.
flash site>
http://www.dakotaapartments.com.au/flash.html

The SMH Domain section over the weekend listed the prices for apartments in this tower. They won't come cheap with the cheapest apartments on sale for $3.55 million. The penthouse is going for $10 million.

All the apartments will come with plasma screens and home entertainment systems with home automation systems that control the air conditioning, lighting, blinds and security.

Apartments should be ready for occupation in 2006.

I walked by the Elizabeth Street sales office frontage yesterday. With full-on sound system there was a video on rotation and a man's soothing voice telling us about...

"Dakotaaaaaaaaaaa Apartmentsssssssssssssss".

Pertaining to the upwardly mobile "Successsssss breeeedssssss successsssss" *shows people leading a busy life using their mobile phones*

"Everything at your fingertipsssssssssssssssssss" *shows buses and ferries*

Talking about "The exccccciting lifesssssssstyle Sssssssydney has to offerrrrrrrrrrrrr" *shows joggers jogging*.

Said on the advert. board that it was "commencing soon"....I mean "Commencccccccccing sooooooooooooooon".

I went by there recently, and I was fortunate not to hear it at all.

It does have some nice models of the tower but also that of an apartment, which I took some shots of. They are fairly dark due to the low which that part of Elizabeth Street receives at this time of year.

A scale model of the tower. It's probably 1:200

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid118/pca1a2938fab9a33b1c7c5a2e013953a6/f87f24e5.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid118/pb21cb45c4b4597b7295c445e4d807c3f/f87f24f3.jpg

The model of the apartment - add the orig.jpg for a larger sized shot

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid118/p9490d574d2578d50a07ea685d37aa43f/f87f24da.jpg

Huge living/dining area

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid118/p76f022b30e1639b0a4635e959f36345c/f87f24cd.jpg

Kitchen

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid118/pc440a9d9f9292812df6f21a15406759a/f87f24a0.jpg

The main bedroom - A second one is at the back.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid118/pe9a0f05b55a89291d6abb209d7ec148e/f87f24c3.jpg

Bathroom

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid118/p934d43c73dd80010fb762b2e64f2f1e9/f87f24b2.jpg

sorry really finding it lookig very unintresting now
or it that just me ?

sorry really finding it lookig very unintresting now
or it that just me ?

No, you are not alone.

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sorry really finding it lookig very unintresting now
or it that just me ?

Defintly not alone...

The fact that they're trying to copy the name "Dakota" from the famous exclusive uptown apartments in New York City (where John Lennon used to live) is a notch below embarrassing.

That is what makes this whole project uninteresting. Lack of any originality to start off with.

Well as upmarket goes they have the price with nothing really in the entry level range

It's usually the smaller developers with "boutique" developments that have grandiose ideas, unlike the larger developers and the Australands and Mirvacs of this world that will reach to most of the market (certainly not the poor or living-below-the-poverty line - derrrr)I went by there recently, and I was fortunate not to hear it at all.Well, it made my afternoon, tee-heeing to myself. Obviously doesn't take much to set me off.

Thanks for the pics. :)

I went past the site today and the sign now says "new design pending" suggesting that the design has been changed. I wasn't able to see any differences on the render. Culwulla, are there any details regarding a change to the design of the tower?

there has been a new model, thus the reason for slow progress. there were some shadow issues. but hopefully sorted out now. should start demolition soon.

LOL Classy - in the Liz St window

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/dakota1.jpg

lol @ that hole

I'm interested :)

When will this be completed?

Ching Ching!!

lol @ that hole

Looks like the old model made a quick getaway :)

looks like its going office? no great loss.

http://img139.exs.cx/img139/8964/dakota2su.jpg

How nice. Yet another scrapped project for Sydney.

hey at least there being ditched publicly.lol Melbourne also have many ditched but no one mentions it in papers.ssshhhhhh.Only 2 skyscrapers commenced construction over past year, compared to 30 year before.

^in Melbourne?

yeah melbourne.Its had one hell of a boom. from post year 2000 to 2004 there was 40 skyscrapers of 90m+ erected!compared to Sydney which was about 15. Sydney had its boom from 1998-2001 with about 30+ new scrapers!

WOW was that due to the olympics and how we were reconised "again" as a major player?

there is a da on the city website for that 54m building on elizabeth street at the northern end of hyde park. it was gonna be a modern blue and gold building but now it looks a lot more classical, i prefer the old design...
i couldnt find the thread if there is one,
check it out http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/Development/DAsOnExhibition/details.asp?tpk=890910

I went past this evening and the signs on the site say that it's called "The Elizabeth on Hyde". The interior looks good....

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/theelizabethonhyde1.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/theelizabethonhyde2.jpg

On the perspective in the DA it called it "The Elizabeth" but maybe they left of the "on Hyde" for brevity.
Hyde Park is becoming Sydney's equivalent of NY's Central Park as a top address and, apparently, residents/developers are pushing to have the streets around it designated as a suburb/locality known as "Hyde Park", doubtless to differentiate themselves from the hoi polloi.
Given the prices being asked for The Hyde, The Hyde Park Residences, and, I expect, The Elizabeth on H, the owners must feel they need this distinction to make their separation from the Lower Orders Quite Clear though the current hysteria in the world's stock markets may trim their ambitions a wee bit.

wow, very nice.real nyc
are they double floor condos?
these would be worth a mint.
thanks for finding out mr vagina!

Yep, as Brizer said in the other thread, there are only 7 apartments.

They'd want to have good sound proofing with all those buses stopping out the front.

I am so glad that they have gone back to the drawing board with this one. I was happy with the previous one, but this one is even more stylish. The apartments inside are awesome.

Schmick!

The building looks average but apartments will be awesome!

The Hyde.....The Residence Hyde Park....Elizabeth on Hyde...why on earth would you live anywhere else? :nuts:

I read an article in the weekend papers that Hyde Park may someday become a suburb or locality of some sort in the years ahead.

^ yeah, brizer was mentioning how he's a fan and loves the idea.

Huge ad in yesterdays 'Domain' liftout in the SMH for this development including a render of the apartments from inside. Very nice.

I'm not sure where I got the "on Hyde" crap from - the sign actually says "The Elizabeth" and underneath, in smaller font, "Hyde Park".

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3204/3006440889_9f6e8bc071_b.jpg

frozen in time?

nope. its all go. new client is getting shit togther. should restart very soon.

Hyde Park penthouse sale sets another record
Jonathan Chancellor Property Editor
December 6, 2008
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/hyde-park-penthouse-sale-sets-another-record/2008/12/05/1228257317754.html

MORE than $20 million has been paid for a three-storey Elizabeth Street penthouse overlooking Hyde Park, the third record price for Sydney apartments this year.

The sale of the 500-square-metre apartment with two car spaces to an undisclosed Australian businessman edges the $20 million paid for a Wylde Street, Potts Point penthouse bought off the plan in June.

The Potts Point record had trumped a $16.8-million sale in Macquarie Street's Bennelong block in March.

Estate agents report the prestige market has had little momentum either up or down. "But the sporadic sales, away from the lethargic auction rooms, are forming a pattern that buoys the market," one said.

A year ago, the national record was an $18-million East Melbourne purchase that surpassed a $16.85 million off-the-plan sale in 2006 of a unit in the Soul complex on the Gold Coast.

The latest sale was secured by developer Andrew Richardson in his Andrew Andersons-designed development, The Elizabeth. George Freedman and Ralph Rembel handled the decor.

"Its the highest-priced apartment in Australia in a tough market," Mr Richardson said.

The year's top house sale was the $45 million paid for the Vaucluse home of Allco founder David Coe.

Oh, drat, I was gearing up to make an offer on that penthouse in The Elizabeth. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
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Looks like not everyone has had their share portfolio devastated by The Current Financial Situation. A warning to anyone over 25: do not check your superannuation balance as it could be deleterious to your health if not downright fatal.

i must say that i just don't get why anyone would pay so much money for THAT apartment. i know it looks over hyde park and all but it also sits on busy and noisy elizabeth st. there's so many better positioned aprtments surely...

The higher you are from street level, the quieter it is.

When you look at it, you are opposite David Jones and a short walk from Pitt St mall. Hyde Park is across the road. Very convienent city living.

Hyde Park is emerging as one of the best addresses in Sydney.

Maybe a thread title change is in order as it is called The Elizabeth and not Elizabeth on Hyde.

looks like this could be moving again, the developers have started to look for pricing

that would be so cool - the spot looks so forlorn at present...

Anyone know where this is at? I went past on Wednesday and noticed that a new wooden "fence" for a better word, is now up and you can't see in the site. Such a sad looking site in a prominent area.

I saw the same this afternoon but there was a truck outside too.No people either.
Weird happenings.

The site is now up for sale. There is an ad in todays SMH Commercial property section :(.

Wow. Talk about a chequered career. Guess there weren't enough takers for the not inexpensive apartments though it's surprising given the location.

Good news is that the site has been sold for $10.1 million to a private developer according to a report in yesterdays edition of The Australian.

Not enough presales warranted its construction.

I wonder what'll happen know,
will it still be same design or will it have to be lodged and designed again?

Tony Owen Architects are lodging new DA today. same envelope
back to 15 or so storeys and wavy balc design. looks good.

wavy balc design

Are people getting nostalgic for Seidler already? :lol:

it actually doesnt look like a seidler. the glass foll0ws the curve of balc.

new DA is in
told its groovy
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2728/4131302447_10fff80bc2_b.jpg

They really should buy the little building for sale next door! And then knock it down and get a little more width...

I thought the same, but I quite like the idea of something slim there, plus the building next door has some heritage value, although I see it being pulled down if a developer gets his hands on it

New proposal is good. Whatever gets built there, it will be good. :)

Urban design, love it and it is in such a great spot for a new small res tower.

If they did buy the building next door to it. They could demolish it and have a 2 storey base and build 2 towers identical on the sides. One tower on the south side and one tower on the north side. Both with the same height and amount of floors.

The new DA is up on the council site; this time the building is designed by Tony Owen Partners.

http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/Development/DAsOnExhibition/details.asp?tpk=943078

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/nottheelizabethanymore-1.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/nottheelizabethanymore-2.jpg

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That is nice. Hints of gaudi-esque aspects and reminds me of a modern casa batllo.

Nice. It's a shame the building next door can't be demolished..:ohno:

Looks nice. I like the variation in the facade.

The official name is Eliza. According to realestate.com there will be 19 apartments for sale:

"Designed with international appeal, Eliza’s 19 individual residences bring together architectural elegance, gracious interiors, sweeping terraces and high city living.

Including a limited collection of extraordinary 4-bedroom apartments at the classic end of Elizabeth Street, Hyde Park".


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4655737626_3725ffe0c7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/50747875@N08/4655737626/)

Eliza!? Wot, Dolittle?? It's gone downmarket a bit from 1 apartment per floor. Another example of the GFC Effect? Tony Owen appears still to be the architect.

sexy facade/ top spot.
you have views of st marys cathedral, hyde park,. right near djs and westfields,st james station
location, location, location!!

It has a website: http://www.elizasydney.com/ (nothing there yet).

Not downmarket to me.

Didn't say it was downmarket per se.
It is relative: from 1 apartment per floor = Real Expensive, to more than 1 apartment per some floors = some apartments Not Quite So Expensive ergo 'gone downmarket a bit'.

Whichever way you look at it, it's way beyond my budget thus Not Literal; try 'wry' or 'ironic'.

Warning is fair in case you haven't picked it up yet: you have to watch for a bit of dry comment in many of my remarks.

briz-you may have to add robot to some of your comments. people dont know how to take them. give them a humour warning lol
http://www.etender.net.au/images/error-robot.jpg

ELIZASYDNEY is now live.
http://www.elizasydney.com/images/photo.buildingsmall.png


URL - http://www.elizasydney.com/


Completion date is set for 2012.

just build it

So sexy! I wonder how much they are selling the units for...

So sexy! I wonder how much they are selling the units for...

I think when it used be called "The Dakota", the lower apartments were slated for about $3M each?

I think when it used be called "The Dakota", the lower apartments were slated for about $3M each?

That's not the Dakota site is it?

^ check out the earlier pages in this thread. ;)

^ check out the earlier pages in this thread. ;)

That's too much hard work!

That's too much hard work!

...and also kinda depressing... 7 years! :ohno:

Work has started on this. I walked past this morning and they had trucks and power tools galore. Looks like they were lowering the curb for trucks to enter the site. Plus there were other workers being busy bees doing other stuff on site.

great

We should also update the thread to Eliza

TODAY
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4121/4886708207_8e9c055347_b.jpg

Eilza is a cute name for the building. Nice to see the vacant site finally come alive.
You have to feel sorry for the drinkers in the St James Hotel who will be walled in when going outside for a smoke.

Another from the iPhone 4..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/emerbot/IMG_0039-1.jpg

^^ its such a small site.......

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4940033807_fa3a31ce2d_b.jpg

An article I found interesting in the SMH

Sydney shows its hide for park living
Susan Wellings
August 28, 2010

http://smh.domain.com.au/real-estate-news/sydney-shows-its-hide-for-park-living-20100827-13vzw.html?autostart=1

Move over Point Piper, Darling Point and Dawes Point. Australia's most exclusive apartment address is moving to a new part of town - Hyde Park.

With three of Sydney's most luxurious apartment buildings setting up on the park, its median price is set to soar above those of the traditional gold-plated market leaders.

In the newly completed flagship of the developer Stockland, The Hyde, on the south side, three-bedroom apartments are selling for up to $3.85 million.

Three bedders in the next-off-the-block development, The Residence, Pamada's conversion of the old police headquarters on the east side, are going for up to $6.675 million.

Four-bedders in the unbuilt eliza, on the west side, are a snip for just $4.4 million.

And the no-expense-spared penthouses and sub-penthouses are yet to be released in any of the developments.

The prices do not seem to have deterred buyers, despite demand for premium product slumping in other areas of Sydney - 86 per cent of The Hyde's apartments have sold since its first launch in 2006 and 70 per cent of The Residence since 2008. Sales begin at the eliza in four weeks.

"I think the [financial crisis] triggered a flight to quality," says the Pamada developer Mark Sydney. "It hasn't really affected us. We've been in demand from people downsizing from Mosman, upgrading from Potts Point, international buyers and people who spend four to five months a year overseas or in the country, who want a city base too."

Prices have remained steady or risen since the crisis struck. "Prices are now on a par with apartments around London's Hyde Park and New York's Central Park," says the Laing Real Estate director Vicki Laing.

"People love being on a park and in such close proximity to David Jones, and being able to walk to Macquarie Street or making a quick exit to the airport."

The PRDnationwide property analyst Mathew Tiller said the median price of a 100 sq m apartment in central London was $2.1 million, and in New York $1.8 million.

Sydney's Hyde Park has a way to go to top London Hyde Park's world record sale of a six-bedroom penthouse for £140 million ($245 million). It was over two floors with views, bullet-proof windows, a panic room and protection by security guards.

^ That's not much money to pay for the privilege of sitting slightly above peaceful Elizabeth St. Waking up to the mild chants of buses stopping and starting will be heaven! And they get to be right near David Jones. Lucky rich conz!

September 8 2010

No action. :(

http://a.imageshack.us/img840/7244/img0418u.jpg

From today's Australian.... a whole new proposal. There is a render in the paper, but not the article.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/property/ceerose-offers-75m-worth-of-curve-appeal/story-e6frg9gx-1225924249115

Are you sure it's not this (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=61311403&postcount=110)?

thats the current DA about to be erected.

thats the current DA about to be erected.

So what I posted is this site, or another? I'm confused, but it doesn't take much.

Your confusion may come from the ignorance of the (alleged) journalist who claimed it was a 'new' design, when in fact it is actually the latest of 3 designs by 3 different architects over the years.
It has been known & published for some time, though, apparently, The Australian (alleged) journalist did not.
A small amount of research may have put him in a better informed position but accuracy seems to way down the list of priorities in reporting these days.

The image in the link Papervagina posted is the design that has been approved as Cul posted and is the 'new' design.

Any better?

Your confusion may come from the ignorance of the (alleged) journalist who claimed it was a 'new' design, when in fact it is actually the latest of 3 designs by 3 different architects over the years.
It has been known & published for some time, though, apparently, The Australian (alleged) journalist did not.
A small amount of research may have put him in a better informed position but accuracy seems to way down the list of priorities in reporting these days.

The image in the link Papervagina posted is the design that has been approved as Cul posted and is the 'new' design.

Any better?

Cheers for that... you should send your resume to the OZ... !

A few new renders from the tonyowenpartners blog (http://tonyowenpartners.blogspot.com/):

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/eliza-1.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/eliza-2.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/eliza-3.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/eliza-4.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/eliza-5.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/eliza-6.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/eliza-7.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/papervagina/eliza-8.jpg

damn, thats hot. i might buy a couple of them. anyone got a few dollars i could borrow?

Great views to the bathroom too :naughty:. I guess they can always use that glass that goes opaque with a light switch..

damn, thats hot. i might buy a couple of them. anyone got a few dollars i could borrow?

I would lend you some $$ but unfortunately I don't have much left over since I bought a place at Hyde on the Park :nuts:

The views from that top one would be amazing...

These are definately the best apartments you can have in central Sydney.

Yeah, the best thing about them is that they are above sleepy Elizabeth street!

The views from that top one would be amazing...

And the views from most of the others would be of... buses.

October 13 2010

The doors were open, a worker was bludging :( and advertisements have been placed on the hoardings!!! :)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/629/img1840t.jpg

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1448/img1838v.jpg

the sec96 DA was lodged on thursday, things should start up now.

About bloody time.. Months of advertising shit and no action

And time to change thread title to "Eliza".
Still think the name change unwise as "Elizabeth" is classier than "Eliza" which is the name of the scullery maid rather than the lady of the house - seeing they are going for posh in the development.

what about "liz". lol

I wouldn't mind a piece of 'Eliza'

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5065/5657350268_d7c6f8794f_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5190/5656777265_74de9743d2_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5027/5657350376_2e9d2e0497_b.jpg

^^
Me too!! Those views are to die for

And time to change thread title to "Eliza".
Still think the name change unwise as "Elizabeth" is classier than "Eliza" which is the name of the scullery maid rather than the lady of the house - seeing they are going for posh in the development.

Couldn't agree more. There are so many ways to sell this development and indeed developments around Hyde Park, to differentiate the area for other parts of the inner city. You could play on the 'Englishness' of the area, the 'city's lungs,' etc. The Elizabeth is a much classier name and befitting of the location. Eliza makes it sound like Hyde Park's name should be changed to Hidden Park and St James should become Jimmy's or Jamie's :nuts:

Just don't fall out the window/balcony...

The "Eliza" has a S96 application for some amendments to also include extra height taking it a metre taller to 55m

http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/Development/DAsOnExhibition/details.asp?tpk=1006646

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6171/6170932137_576641b6e7_b.jpg

I've noticed how much busier the site is and that something is getting done. The workers were milling around the gates at noon yesterday.

these are selling
crane soon
not a bad fricken view
http://images1.au.reastatic.net/800x600/props/106581208/ImageD/20110224100612.jpg

http://images1.au.reastatic.net/800x600/props/106581208/ImageA/20111120175438.jpg

I can't believe it - progress! The crane is going up on 15 January: http://cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/Council/documents/meetings/2011/Traffic/141211/111214_LPCTCC_ITEM13.pdf

December 16 2011 - Concrete truck was busy outside the site. Couldn't get a photo as I could not get a good view of the action.

But at least they are getting some work done. :)

this company has found it hard to get a builder to construct the balconies. they may have found one.

They are doing the basement levels at the moment.

The basement excavation works are now complete, with the excavator soon to be removed by crane and basement level parking construction commencing January.

any pics

I'll be visiting the site tomorrow - I'll put some pictures up of the progress or lack thereof!

Looking through this thread, I originally preferred the second design (in the NY style) but the finalised one is growing on me. Absolutely fantastic location, beautiful interiors and those VIEWS.

It looks slow because you cannot see anything. To me it has looked quite busy for some months now.

I went to the site today and it's going to look wonderful when completed - it just requires a little imagination! I didn't take any photos but there was definitely some work going on - not that I could see it!

I can't believe it - progress! The crane is going up on 15 January: http://cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/Council/documents/meetings/2011/Traffic/141211/111214_LPCTCC_ITEM13.pdf

Did this get it's crane yet?

Was passing by yesterday - no crane as yet.

Was passing by yesterday - no crane as yet.


ta..

March 23 2012

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By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2012-03-23

The crane finally went up today.

Finally, a real sign of work.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8819/p1010111w.jpg

Oh it's beautiful!

There's nothing quite like the sight of an erect crane!

How many cranes now populate the Sydney skyline? Fantastic.

this one loomed across elizabeth street, wierd

I'd really love to see some of older, forgettable buildings on Elizabeth St knocked down with high-end apartments built in their place. I'd love for Hyde Park to become the address in Sydney. There'd be variation and timeless beauty in the designs and we'd have a truly lovely street front. Let's make the best possible use of the height limit area and build a collection of the most enviable addresses in Australia ;)

That crane is sitting so low it looks ridiculous. I love the look of cranes on the Sydney skyline but here the crane driver can barely see over the gantry. This crane will have to be jumped quite often. I wonder what the reasoning was for erecting it like this? Surely you would just put in another couple of tower sections.

It's a case of being able to transport the materials from street level to the base as efficently as possible. There is a platform that overhangs the site that allows for trucks to bring in material and send it down.

Oh it's beautiful!

There's nothing quite like the sight of an erect crane!

How many cranes now populate the Sydney skyline? Fantastic.

Not sure how many cranes there are at Barangaroo but there are cranes working on the following sites
- 8 Chifley Square
- Law Courts near Martin Place
- HCF Building on George Street
- Gowings Building on George Street
- Eliza
- ANZ Bank Centre
- Central Park
- The Quay at Haymarket (think there are cranes there?)
- 267 Sussex Street (?)

Have I forgotten anywhere?

I'd really love to see some of older, forgettable buildings on Elizabeth St knocked down with high-end apartments built in their place. I'd love for Hyde Park to become the address in Sydney. There'd be variation and timeless beauty in the designs and we'd have a truly lovely street front. Let's make the best possible use of the height limit area and build a collection of the most enviable addresses in Australia ;)

Me too. The transformation has already begun with The Hyde and The Hyde Residences, and now Eliza. It's a little bit of Manhattan in Sydney.

Wasn't the Telstra offices on corner of Elizabeth and Park (think it's Park) earmarked to be redeveloped into apartments?

1-9 regent st now has a crane

Wasn't the Telstra offices on corner of Elizabeth and Park (think it's Park) earmarked to be redeveloped into apartments?

If you were talking about the Atena Tower, that just got a makeover. That tower is at the corner of Elizabeth and Bathurst Street.

^^
The old PBL buildings at the Elizabeth & Park intersections had a DA for apartments, and AMP was involved in this somehow?

I do believe Cariad was referring to this post by Culwulla (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=41150064):

telstra house on elizabeth st to be reconstructed to apartments.
architects-Fitzpatrick.
should look good with all bldgs facing hyde park all apartments. very new york central park.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3552/3812491167_0d29a5a9d9_o.jpg

^^
Need to see that from a few different angles to make an informed judgement BUT from that angle it is rather foul. Glass and concealed balconies like The Hyde or Lumiere would look much better as would some curves like Eliza and Darling Quarter. In fact Eliza will probably be the first building in the Hyde Park area to have a few curves in its shape.

http://www.propertyobserver.com.au/new-south-wales/eliza-penthouse-finally-getting-off-the-ground-with-$15-million-hopes-title-tattle/2012041254234

Eliza penthouse finally getting off the ground with $15 million hopes: Title Tattle

By Jonathan Chancellor
Thursday, 12 April 2012

The Eliza penthouse, spanning three levels overlooking Hyde Park, is the latest Sydney skyhouse being marketed with $15 million hopes.

Developed by Edward Doueihi of Ceerose, with an architectural hint in its balconies of Antoni Gaudi's Casa Mila, the penthouse is due for completion in early 2013. Its the building site with the crane that currently swings across Elizabeth Street just down from the intersection with Market Street.

The 460-square-metre, three-level penthouse will sit atop a 17-storey building designed by the architects Tony Owen Partners.

It features four bedrooms, five bathrooms, a home theatre, a private lift, 3.5-metre-high ceilings, a massive 13.5-metre frontage overlooking the park and full automation through C-Bus.

The top level comprises the entertainment terrace with a 10-metre lap pool.

It’s being marketed by Jean-Paul Markopoulos of CB Richard Ellis. Just 7 of the 19 apartments remain for sale, including six full floor apartments with prices around $4.5 million each.

The site – whose neighbours are Hermes and the Sheraton on the Park – was originally to be used for a building named The Elizabeth. Its then developer Andrew Richardson however lost his record $20.1 million off-the-plan penthouse buyer in 2008. Richardson had accepted a $100 deposit for the proposed three-storey penthouse from now-bankrupted businessman Rodney Price.

The vacant Elizabeth Street site cost $13 million in 2003 when bought by Richardson and his initial partner, Tjeerd La Grouw, who exited the project several years later. Edward Doueihi, from the Dural construction company, Ceerose, paid $8.5 million in December 2009 to Richardson and his subsequent partner, Multiplex.

April 13 2012

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By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2012-04-13

st hilliers building this? ouh oh ;(

Its a mob called Ceerose. The St hillers job is further up on the corner of Elizibeth and King.

Its a mob called Ceerose. The St hillers job is further up on the corner of Elizibeth and King.

Yeh, 99 Elizabeth Street - I imagine the administrators will look to complete this project to re-coup some money.

Yeah St Hillers went bust not the developer. Someone else will take it on and finish it. St Hilliers misfortune is some other builders profit and oppertunity.

oh ok thanks.
thats the refurb of the 60s box ADC House.

May 18 2012

Edging closer to street level.

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By fabianamuso (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fabianamuso) at 2012-05-18

Nice shot Fabian. Its great to see this project underway.
These will be very nice apartments in a great location.