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Monkey
May 23rd, 2005, 08:34 PM
all u'r questions about our language,words,alphabet all things u wanted to ask (many people ask me in PM how to write,how to say in hebre.....here is a place:)

khay
May 23rd, 2005, 08:40 PM
ani lo mevin ivrit. ;) Ani gar bePolin ve ani rotza melafefon. Ani rotza la'asot ze ito kol hayom :)
layla ve'ata hasheket shenish'ar. ;)

Monkey
May 23rd, 2005, 08:48 PM
rotza=female:)
hehehe melafefon:))))))))

khay
May 23rd, 2005, 08:49 PM
singing PingPong's song "SaMeAkh" ;)

khay
May 23rd, 2005, 08:51 PM
So far, I am at this level :D

http://www.jewish.org.pl/polskie/materialy/historia/jezyk/jezyk.html
http://www.jezyki-obce.pl/hebrajski.php
http://www.rumburak.website.pl/hebrajski/tabele/piel.html

Monkey
May 23rd, 2005, 08:52 PM
kvl' u can ask what do u want:))
we will answer:)

khay
May 23rd, 2005, 08:55 PM
todax rabax, but I still have to learn it alone ;)

Dalet
May 23rd, 2005, 10:28 PM
ma pitom:))) hehhehehe


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melafefon or melafafon :))))

melafafon (beivrit) - ogórek (bepolanit) - cucumber (beanglit)

ma ze melafefon????

Monkey
May 23rd, 2005, 11:04 PM
melafefon-ogorek (oguretz in russian)
agvania-tomato
pilpel-pepper

TheBaseTower
May 23rd, 2005, 11:56 PM
חח הוא רוצה מלפפון אממ כמה מעניין

ugluk7
June 22nd, 2005, 01:44 AM
I have a question. How can I type in Hebrew on my computer? Lately I have been speaking with my friend in Tel Aviv on MSN and she writes in Hebrew and I write back in English. It would be nice to be able to write back in Hebrew.

wickedestcity
June 22nd, 2005, 07:45 AM
ma hashaah? the question you ast a hooker walking the streets in tel aviv. or kamah zeh oleh balylah? or ani rotzeh leyizdayein!! ok im done acting like a child lol

Monkey
June 22nd, 2005, 10:53 AM
I have a question. How can I type in Hebrew on my computer? Lately I have been speaking with my friend in Tel Aviv on MSN and she writes in Hebrew and I write back in English. It would be nice to be able to write back in Hebrew.


go to Panel toolings and find there "Languages".....

Monkey
June 22nd, 2005, 10:55 AM
ma hashaah? the question you ast a hooker walking the streets in tel aviv. or kamah zeh oleh balylah? or ani rotzeh leyizdayein!! ok im done acting like a child lol

and u must ask if this hooker is man or woman heheh:) especially if u are in Bursa area,Tel Barukh or Barzilai-Lewinsky street:)

xolang
June 2nd, 2008, 05:50 PM
all u'r questions about our language,words,alphabet all things u wanted to ask
Perfect!

In In handwritten/cursive Hebrew, do you make a difference between vav and nun sofit?
They look so similar to me.

Toda!

Hebrewtext
June 2nd, 2008, 06:27 PM
Perfect!

In In handwritten/cursive Hebrew, do you make a difference between vav and nun sofit?
They look so similar to me.

Toda!


the vav is short ,the same hight of regular letter, nun sofit is longer and stretches below the line.

now write yavan (Greece) in cursive Hebrew......

xolang
June 2nd, 2008, 06:37 PM
the vav is short ,the same hight of regular letter, nun sofit is longer and stretches below the line.

now write yavan (Greece) in cursive Hebrew......
Toda!

I still haven't found an Hebrew alphabet converter.

You write Yavan like yud-alef-vav-alef-nun sofit, right?

xolang
June 2nd, 2008, 06:50 PM
I found it here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=10448454&postcount=21). :)

It looks like yud-vav-vav-nun sofit.
Why the double vav?

Gizdavetz
June 2nd, 2008, 09:31 PM
Ani rotze limtzotz lekha is a phrase I learnt long long time ago, but I've never had the chance to test its usefulness.

ZOHAR
June 3rd, 2008, 12:35 AM
^^nasty boy

Dylan Leblanc
June 3rd, 2008, 07:02 PM
Hi guys. It is said by some that the Hebrew language originated from the Irish language. Do you think this is true?

BoxIL
June 4th, 2008, 05:47 PM
Hi guys. It is said by some that the Hebrew language originated from the Irish language. Do you think this is true?
I never heard that..
I don't think its true.

xolang
June 4th, 2008, 06:09 PM
I never heard that..
I don't think its true.
Neither have I heard of that.

Gilgamesh VI
June 4th, 2008, 06:39 PM
Hi guys. It is said by some that the Hebrew language originated from the Irish language. Do you think this is true?

Well that’s just Complete and Utter Bullshit™
Not only are the languages not related at all (or very very very remotely), but Hebrew preceded Irish by many hundreds of years.

Who told you that?

TheCat
June 5th, 2008, 01:06 AM
Hi guys. It is said by some that the Hebrew language originated from the Irish language. Do you think this is true?

Nope, Hebrew isn't even Indo-European.

jeffyl00b
June 7th, 2008, 01:31 AM
must be sometype of arabist propaganda. Hebrew's ancient.
Although a lot of roots and origins are from Hebrew, which would explain anytype of mis-explained correlations. Example I heard recently that the hebrew word for prince is very similar to "czar" and the english "Sire". I think it's 'sar' in hebrew if I recall correctly.
as much as I love the irish, the similarities probably don't go beyond any type of common roots I assume.

ahmad.oustwani
June 7th, 2008, 03:05 AM
Hey there....its been a while since i've poped in this forum....hope its been well....i've got a question....where can i take hebrew online lessons for beginners?

xolang
June 7th, 2008, 05:12 AM
Hey there....its been a while since i've poped in this forum....hope its been well....i've got a question....where can i take hebrew online lessons for beginners?
Shalom!

I'm using this:

http://www.learn-hebrew.co.il/

As for the alphabet and nikkud, Wikipedia gives a good information.

Be'hatslachâ!

FIDEL CASTRO
June 7th, 2008, 05:20 AM
Hebrew language comes from Africa.

Hebrewtext
June 7th, 2008, 12:00 PM
Hebrew language comes from Africa.


ahh...?

there was the same semite language and writing system (proto cannite and proto sinite 1700BC.)
which was used by several groups throughout the eastern shores of the med. like the Moabites,the Edomites,the Pheonocians, and the Israelites.

the Hebrews adopted the language and writing system probably after resetteling in Canaan .while the rest mentioned above are since gone, Hebrew keeps carrying that ancient legacy.

Gilgamesh VI
June 7th, 2008, 07:27 PM
must be sometype of arabist propaganda. Hebrew's ancient.
Although a lot of roots and origins are from Hebrew, which would explain anytype of mis-explained correlations. Example I heard recently that the hebrew word for prince is very similar to "czar" and the english "Sire". I think it's 'sar' in hebrew if I recall correctly.
as much as I love the irish, the similarities probably don't go beyond any type of common roots I assume.

It's just a coincidence. Czar comes from the Latin word for Caesar and has the same meaning, with no relation to sire or sir or whatever, neither words are related to Hebrew "sar" which only means "prince" by some stretch of the imagination.

Very few "English" words, without some direct religious meaning, originate in Hebrew. Umm... I can only think of "sack", it sounds the same too...

Hebrewtext
June 7th, 2008, 10:35 PM
hundreads of names and phrases in English and other European languages derive from Hebrew.
from the Hebrew bible to Latin and to the modern lang. we know today.




Many Hebrew words have come into English in many cases directly from being used in the Bible.

e.g.
amen meaning "so be it" or "I agree"
hallelujah meaning "praise the LORD"
manna
adam
eve
jehovah
satan
eden
armageddon
nimrod
soddom & gamora
hossana
metusela
cinnamon
Abacus
probably from אבק avaq (="dust") through Greek
Amen
from אמן amen (="so be it; truly")
Ashkenazi
from אשכנזי ashkenazi (="German")
Bar mitzvah
from בר מצווה bar mitzvah (="son of (i.e. bound to) the commandment"), "bar" coming from Aramaic as the Hebrew word for son is "ben"
Behemoth
from בהמות behemot (="beasts" or "cattle")
Bethlehem, bedlam
from בית לחם bet lehem (="house of bread")
Bris
from ברית brit via Yiddish (="covenant (of circumcision)"),
Cherub, cherubim
from כרוב kerubh, כרובים kerubim
Golem
from גולם golem (="unformed, incomplete")
Goy
from גוי goy ("nation, gentile")
Hallelujah
from הללויה halleluyah (="(let us) praise God")
Israel
from ישראל Yisrael (="(the one who) wrestles (with) God")
Jehu
from יהוא Yehu an insane driver (after 2 Kings 9:20)
Jerusalem
from ירושלים Yerushalayim (="shall inherit Shalem" [an ancient biblical city-state mentioned in the book of Genesis])
Jubilee
from יובל yovel (Jubilee year)
kibbutz
from קיבוץ kibbutz (="gathering")
Kippah
from כיפה kippah (="half-sphere")
Kosher
from כשר kasher (="fit, acceptable")
Leviathan
from לויתן livyatan (="whale")
Maven
from מבין mevin via Yiddish (="one who understands")
Messiah
from משיח mashiach (="anointed")
Methuselah
from Methushelah, the oldest living human (969 years)
Mohel
from מוהל mohel via Yiddish
Nimrod
from נמרוד, a mighty hunter, specifically the ancient King Nimrod (mentioned in the Book of Genesis)
Rabbi
from רבי rabbi (="my teacher", or mentor")
Sabbath
from שׁבת "Shabbat" ("rest")
Satan
from שטן satan (="adversary")
Schwa
from שווא sheva "ְ"
Sephardi
from ספרדי sefaradi (="Spaniard")
Seraph, seraphim
from שרף seraf, שרפים serafim ("fiery ones")
Shibboleth
from שיבולת shibbolet (="ear of grain")
Tohubohu
chaos, comes form "tohu va'vohu" (unformed and void) from Genesis 1:2
Torah
from תורה
[edit]
Words with Semitic roots akin to Hebrew
Cider
akin to שכר shekhar (="intoxicating liquor")
Cinnamon
akin to קינמון kinamon
Camel
akin to גמל gamal
Hyssop
akin to אזוב ezov
Sack
akin שק saq (="sackcloth")
Sapphire
akin to ספיר sapir




Many common English names originate from the Hebrew names of the Bible e.g.
David meaning "beloved"
Elizabeth meaning "God's oath"
Joseph meaning "someone who grows"
Miriam meaning "strong"

Other Hebrew words have come to use more indirectly through other languages:
e.g.
The English word "wine" has come from the Hebrew word "yayin" via the Latin word "vinum".
The Hebrew word "shur" meaning "bull" has come to use through Greek as the zodiac sign "taurus".





Root -Hebrew - Hebrew - English
------Word ---- meaning

AD ood firepoker wood
AH ah sigh ah
AH oiy woe, disaster, pain woe, ow
AL el, al power elk, all
AM amah cubit, an arm length arm
AN aniy I I, me
AR 'or light (brings order) order
ASh esh, ash fire ash
ASh iysh man, each man each
AT et, at at, with at
BH bah, beh fill a void be, via
BZ buz plunder buzzard (a bird that plunders)
BL bal flow, roll ball, bowl, bullet, flow, affluence
BN ben son, building stone beam
BN beyn between between
BQ baq pour out, empty vacate, vaccume
BR bar grain, fat, soap pure, barley, beer, boar, bear, barn
BSh bash shame bashful, abash
BT beyt/beth house, (second letter) both, bed
GB gabh dug out cave
GD gud tendon (used for cord) cord, gut, guitar (strings originally made of gut cords)
GL gal round, skull skull
GM gam foot game (from latin meaning leg)
GR garon throat grown, growl
DD dad breast, beloved teat, udder, dad
DL dal door door
DM damah silent, dumb dumb
DN diyn judge damn
DR hadar honor, ornament adore
DSh doosh tread dash
HB habh gift (what is given) have
HD had shout hoot
HH hu he he, she, them, they
HR har hill hill
ZB zubh puss seep
ZH zeh this, that, which this, that, the, so
ZQ zaq bind shackle
ZHh hhaz gaze gaze
HhN hhen camp home
HhS hhasah refuge house
HhsH hhush quiet hush
HhT hhat break hate
ThP tapap trip trip
ThR tur wall, mountain range tower
ThSh tush pounce toss
ThTh tet basket tote
YD yad hand, arm yard (length of arm)
YSh yesh there is yes, is
KS cus cup, pocket, cover case
KP caph palm, cover cap, cuff
KR cor hole, dug out core, bore
KT catat crush cut
LB lebh heart love, liver
LB labhabh glisten, flame lava
LD yalad child lad
LHh lahh moist liquid
LK halak walk walk
LL yalal howl yell
LQ laq lick lick
MG mag magic magic
MD madah extend, wide meta (greek for large)
MK muk thin, poor meek
ML malal reduce mill
MN min kind, species, from man, name, animal
MQ moq mock mock
MR mar bitter marine, marsh
MR mahar exchange mirror
MT mut death mute, mut point
NG nahag drive nag
ND nad mounds, wave, wander nod, wander
ND nod nod nod
NN nun continue new
SD sad foundation, level sod
SK sak booth shack
SK sukah view seek
SN sane hate sin
SP saph lip sup, supper, sip
SP saphah lip, speak speak, speach
SQ saq sack sack, sock
SR sar lord, prince sir
GhL ghal yoke collar
GhN ayin eye eye
GhP ghoph bird avion
GhR yaghar forest jungle
PG pag unripe fig
PD pad disappear fade
PL naphal fall fall
PR par bull bull
PR parar break break
PR periy fruit fruit, pear, apricot, apple, berry, fertile, ripe
TsD tsad side side
TsH tsion mark, sign sign, son
TsP tsaph whisper, watch spy
TsR tsa'ar pain sore
TsR atsar store up store
QD qad bow the head head, hat
QB qev hole cave, cove
QL qal voice call
QL qlon disgrace clown
QN qanah acquire, purchase coin
QR qara call, meet occur, cry, call
RG rag bad wrong
RG arag weave rug
RG harag kill harange
RHh riych scent reak
RTs erets earth, land earth
RSh rosh head raise (as in the head)
ShN shin teeth shine
ShP shaph serpent sharp, serpent
ShP yashaph jasper jasper
ShSh shesh six six
ShT sheyt sit set, sit, seat
TL tal mound tall
TP taph drum, beat tap
TR tur travel tour, tire

ALP eleph cattle elephant
BQR baqar cow buckaroo (derived from the spanish word vaquero meaning cow)
GML gamel camel camel
DRK derek way, road direct, track, truck
KPR caphar cover cover
KRT carat cut out create
MShL mashal rule marshal
SPR saphiyr saphire saphire
GhBR obher other side, over over
GhRP gharaph neck girafe
ShLT shalat govern salute
ShVN shibanah seven seven
ShMSh shemesh sun sun
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Hebrewtext
June 7th, 2008, 10:36 PM
list of private names origin in Hebrew

Hebrew origin names (http://www.babynamesworld.com/hebrew_names_1.html)

The Knowledgeable
June 8th, 2008, 08:23 AM
Wow some of your theories are really far-fetched. Sorry Hebrewtext but this is really extreme...

I can't even begin to address every one of these, so I'll group them:

ahh...?

there was the same semite language and writing system (proto cannite and proto sinite 1700BC.)
which was used by several groups throughout the eastern shores of the med. like the Moabites,the Edomites,the Pheonocians, and the Israelites.

the Hebrews adopted the language and writing system probably after resetteling in Canaan .while the rest mentioned above are since gone, Hebrew keeps carrying that ancient legacy.

I think you misunderstood Fidel. It was just a remark that was indirectly true. Hebrew is part of the Semitic languages and if we consider the ancient Hebrews to be Semitite then they would come, just like the rest of the Semitic languages along with their speakers, from Arabia. Some afrocentrists claim that the Afro-Asiatic language family, consisting of Semitic languages as well as ancient Egyptian, Berber and others comes from Africa. If we go by that theory, Fidel's point was correct.

hundreads of names and phrases in English and other European languages derive from Hebrew.
from the Hebrew bible to Latin and to the modern lang. we know today.

This is a real exaggeration. Hundreds? Barely several tens. Even the lists you gave don't pass the hundred mark. And unless we're living back in the late Middle Ages the Biblical names used in English-speaking communities are much less than hundreds. Something like one hundred.

Many Hebrew words have come into English in many cases directly from being used in the Bible.

e.g.
amen meaning "so be it" or "I agree"
hallelujah meaning "praise the LORD"
manna
adam
eve
jehovah
satan
eden
armageddon
nimrod
soddom & gamora
hossana
metusela
cinnamon
Abacus
probably from אבק avaq (="dust") through Greek
Amen
from אמן amen (="so be it; truly")
Ashkenazi
from אשכנזי ashkenazi (="German")
Bar mitzvah
from בר מצווה bar mitzvah (="son of (i.e. bound to) the commandment"), "bar" coming from Aramaic as the Hebrew word for son is "ben"
Behemoth
from בהמות behemot (="beasts" or "cattle")
Bethlehem, bedlam
from בית לחם bet lehem (="house of bread")
Bris
from ברית brit via Yiddish (="covenant (of circumcision)"),
Cherub, cherubim
from כרוב kerubh, כרובים kerubim
Golem
from גולם golem (="unformed, incomplete")
Goy
from גוי goy ("nation, gentile")
Hallelujah
from הללויה halleluyah (="(let us) praise God")
Israel
from ישראל Yisrael (="(the one who) wrestles (with) God")
Jehu
from יהוא Yehu an insane driver (after 2 Kings 9:20)
Jerusalem
from ירושלים Yerushalayim (="shall inherit Shalem" [an ancient biblical city-state mentioned in the book of Genesis])
Jubilee
from יובל yovel (Jubilee year)
kibbutz
from קיבוץ kibbutz (="gathering")
Kippah
from כיפה kippah (="half-sphere")
Kosher
from כשר kasher (="fit, acceptable")
Leviathan
from לויתן livyatan (="whale")
Maven
from מבין mevin via Yiddish (="one who understands")
Messiah
from משיח mashiach (="anointed")
Methuselah
from Methushelah, the oldest living human (969 years)
Mohel
from מוהל mohel via Yiddish
Nimrod
from נמרוד, a mighty hunter, specifically the ancient King Nimrod (mentioned in the Book of Genesis)
Rabbi
from רבי rabbi (="my teacher", or mentor")
Sabbath
from שׁבת "Shabbat" ("rest")
Satan
from שטן satan (="adversary")
Schwa
from שווא sheva "ְ"
Sephardi
from ספרדי sefaradi (="Spaniard")
Seraph, seraphim
from שרף seraf, שרפים serafim ("fiery ones")
Shibboleth
from שיבולת shibbolet (="ear of grain")
Tohubohu
chaos, comes form "tohu va'vohu" (unformed and void) from Genesis 1:2
Torah
from תורה
[edit]
Words with Semitic roots akin to Hebrew
Cider
akin to שכר shekhar (="intoxicating liquor")
Cinnamon
akin to קינמון kinamon
Camel
akin to גמל gamal
Hyssop
akin to אזוב ezov
Sack
akin שק saq (="sackcloth")
Sapphire
akin to ספיר sapir

Well, yeah you would expect names appearing in the Hebrew Bible to be used in English. Bethlehem? Jerusalem? Tel Aviv is also from Hebrew you know.

You would also expect that Jewish terms, like "rabbi", "Sephardi", "Kosher" and the such would be used in English. As well as religious terms, such as "Messiah", "Satan" and "Hallelujah". The rest are fascinating Hebrew words that found their way into English - but via the Bible.

Many common English names originate from the Hebrew names of the Bible e.g.
David meaning "beloved"
Elizabeth meaning "God's oath"
Joseph meaning "someone who grows"
Miriam meaning "strong"

Other Hebrew words have come to use more indirectly through other languages:
e.g.
The English word "wine" has come from the Hebrew word "yayin" via the Latin word "vinum".
The Hebrew word "shur" meaning "bull" has come to use through Greek as the zodiac sign "taurus".

"Wine" and "vinum" are related to Hebrew "yayin" but they do not originate from Hebrew. "Wine" is a wanderwort, a wondering word, a word present in unrelated language families whose origin, because of this, is unknown. It is hypothesized to originate from Georgian or maybe Iranian.

The word "taurus", although looking to be so, is in fact unrelated to Arabic "tawr" or Hebrew "shor" (at least as far as mainstream linguistics goes). "Taurus" is derived from a Proto-Indo-European root. The English equivalent is not "bull" (which is a Germanic root of unknown origin) but "steer".

Root -Hebrew - Hebrew - English
------Word ---- meaning

AD ood firepoker wood
AH ah sigh ah
AH oiy woe, disaster, pain woe, ow
AL el, al power elk, all
AM amah cubit, an arm length arm
AN aniy I I, me
AR 'or light (brings order) order
ASh esh, ash fire ash
ASh iysh man, each man each
AT et, at at, with at
BH bah, beh fill a void be, via
BZ buz plunder buzzard (a bird that plunders)
BL bal flow, roll ball, bowl, bullet, flow, affluence
BN ben son, building stone beam
BN beyn between between
BQ baq pour out, empty vacate, vaccume
BR bar grain, fat, soap pure, barley, beer, boar, bear, barn
BSh bash shame bashful, abash
BT beyt/beth house, (second letter) both, bed
GB gabh dug out cave
GD gud tendon (used for cord) cord, gut, guitar (strings originally made of gut cords)
GL gal round, skull skull
GM gam foot game (from latin meaning leg)
GR garon throat grown, growl
DD dad breast, beloved teat, udder, dad
DL dal door door
DM damah silent, dumb dumb
DN diyn judge damn
DR hadar honor, ornament adore
DSh doosh tread dash
HB habh gift (what is given) have
HD had shout hoot
HH hu he he, she, them, they
HR har hill hill
ZB zubh puss seep
ZH zeh this, that, which this, that, the, so
ZQ zaq bind shackle
ZHh hhaz gaze gaze
HhN hhen camp home
HhS hhasah refuge house
HhsH hhush quiet hush
HhT hhat break hate
ThP tapap trip trip
ThR tur wall, mountain range tower
ThSh tush pounce toss
ThTh tet basket tote
YD yad hand, arm yard (length of arm)
YSh yesh there is yes, is
KS cus cup, pocket, cover case
KP caph palm, cover cap, cuff
KR cor hole, dug out core, bore
KT catat crush cut
LB lebh heart love, liver
LB labhabh glisten, flame lava
LD yalad child lad
LHh lahh moist liquid
LK halak walk walk
LL yalal howl yell
LQ laq lick lick
MG mag magic magic
MD madah extend, wide meta (greek for large)
MK muk thin, poor meek
ML malal reduce mill
MN min kind, species, from man, name, animal
MQ moq mock mock
MR mar bitter marine, marsh
MR mahar exchange mirror
MT mut death mute, mut point
NG nahag drive nag
ND nad mounds, wave, wander nod, wander
ND nod nod nod
NN nun continue new
SD sad foundation, level sod
SK sak booth shack
SK sukah view seek
SN sane hate sin
SP saph lip sup, supper, sip
SP saphah lip, speak speak, speach
SQ saq sack sack, sock
SR sar lord, prince sir
GhL ghal yoke collar
GhN ayin eye eye
GhP ghoph bird avion
GhR yaghar forest jungle
PG pag unripe fig
PD pad disappear fade
PL naphal fall fall
PR par bull bull
PR parar break break
PR periy fruit fruit, pear, apricot, apple, berry, fertile, ripe
TsD tsad side side
TsH tsion mark, sign sign, son
TsP tsaph whisper, watch spy
TsR tsa'ar pain sore
TsR atsar store up store
QD qad bow the head head, hat
QB qev hole cave, cove
QL qal voice call
QL qlon disgrace clown
QN qanah acquire, purchase coin
QR qara call, meet occur, cry, call
RG rag bad wrong
RG arag weave rug
RG harag kill harange
RHh riych scent reak
RTs erets earth, land earth
RSh rosh head raise (as in the head)
ShN shin teeth shine
ShP shaph serpent sharp, serpent
ShP yashaph jasper jasper
ShSh shesh six six
ShT sheyt sit set, sit, seat
TL tal mound tall
TP taph drum, beat tap
TR tur travel tour, tire

ALP eleph cattle elephant
BQR baqar cow buckaroo (derived from the spanish word vaquero meaning cow)
GML gamel camel camel
DRK derek way, road direct, track, truck
KPR caphar cover cover
KRT carat cut out create
MShL mashal rule marshal
SPR saphiyr saphire saphire
GhBR obher other side, over over
GhRP gharaph neck girafe
ShLT shalat govern salute
ShVN shibanah seven seven
ShMSh shemesh sun sun
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What you have found here is evidence of the existence of Proto-World! :)

rheintram
June 11th, 2008, 02:07 PM
I'm pretty interested in the topic of the interrelation of german and hebrew and I did a lot of research. Even before Yiddish, etc there has been considerable hebrew influence on german and not only through religion!

Only recently the oldest austrian jewish grave has been found and it dates back to the 4th century CE (AD). Back then the local inhabitants, all over central Europe were pretty much barbarians with a culture that was far behind the roman, hellenic and also israelite-hellenic culture. Thus many things introduced to them through the roman conquest were new and loan words were taken over. Many linguists claim that some of them have semitic-hebrew-aramaic roots. And in many cases there is no doubt. Here are some examples it's always modern german word - hebrew root. The [] show the meaning in english:

Emmer [type of corn] - Omer (Getreidebündel) [batch of corn]
Lasche [strap/tongue] - Laschon (Zunge) [tongue]
Acker [field] - Ikar (Landwirt) [farmer]
Kauz [little owl bird] - Koss (kleiner Eulenvogel) [little owl bird]
Schöffe [judge] - Schofet (Richter) [judge]
taufen [baptize] - towel (eintauchen) [to dunk into water]
Schwur [oath] - Schwua (Schwur) [oath]
Scherbe [sherd] - Schewer (Scherbe) [sherd]
Eid [oath] - Ed (Zeuge) [witness]
Balsam [balsam/balm] - Bossem (Parfüm) [perfume]
Schaukel [swing] - schokel (wiegt) [weighs]
Bluse [blouse] - lowesch (zieht an; b = w, Buchstabentausch) [dresses]
Abt, Abtei [Abbot, monastery] - Abba/Aw (Vater) [father]
Laumann [name] - lau = nicht/nein [no]
Basalt [basalt] - Baselet (Basalt) [basalt]
dufte [great, slangish] - tow (gut) [good]
Kanone [canon] - Kaneh (Rohr) [tube]
Beisel [pub/bar] - Bajis (Haus) [house]
Fratze [ugly face] - Partzuf (Gesicht) [face]
Kluft [clothes] - Klippa (Schale, Rinde) [crust/peel]

These are only some that already date back to ancient times or medival times! And with Yiddish there has been much more exchange. It's really fascinating :)

It's also fascinating that there is quite some german in modern hebrew too, e.g. שטרודל for @... well originally it depicts this dish: http://www.tasteofaustria.info/i/strudel.jpg :D

The Knowledgeable
June 11th, 2008, 05:47 PM
^^I'm usually very skeptic about this kind of comparisons, but some are really undeniable. Hebrew wikipedia has a very comprehensive section about this in the Hebrew version of the German language article (featured!).
http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%92%D7%A8%D7%9E%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%AA#.D7.94.D7.A9.D7.A4.D7.A2.D7.AA_.D7.94.D7.A2.D7.91.D7.A8.D7.99.D7.AA_.D7.A2.D7.9C_.D7.94.D7.92.D7.A8.D7.9E.D7.A0.D7.99.D7.AA

As well as the German wikipedia:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_deutscher_W%C3%B6rter_aus_dem_Hebr%C3%A4ischen

The German influence on modern Hebrew is huge, it is very obvious and is seen almost every field (except religion, that's holy :)).
I doubt "Acker" however. Could it possible be related to "acre"?

ahmad.oustwani
June 12th, 2008, 09:54 PM
Shalom!

I'm using this:

http://www.learn-hebrew.co.il/

As for the alphabet and nikkud, Wikipedia gives a good information.

Be'hatslachâ!

Thanks man for the website.......it seems useful...

Dylan Leblanc
June 14th, 2008, 12:22 AM
Well that’s just Complete and Utter Bullshit™
Not only are the languages not related at all (or very very very remotely), but Hebrew preceded Irish by many hundreds of years.

Who told you that?I have seen it mentioned in some books that Hebrew originated from Irish. I don't promote this view myself though.

Here is a book I found online: Hebrew a Sacerdotal Dialect Improvised from an Irish Language for the Secret Use of the Priests (http://www.amazon.com/Sacerdotal-Dialect-Improvised-Language-Priests/dp/1425320678/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213395506&sr=8-9). From the title of the book is seems the author is claiming that Hebrew was derrived from a secret language used by Druids, though I don't know the validity of this claim.

diegodbs
August 16th, 2008, 08:50 PM
Hey there....its been a while since i've poped in this forum....hope its been well....i've got a question....where can i take hebrew online lessons for beginners?

I am using this one and I am a complete beginner:

http://www.hebrewonline.com/default.asp

It is an online course from Israel.

rheintram
August 16th, 2008, 09:31 PM
I tried quite some books and personally I found the Prolog books and DVDs to be the best: http://www.prolog.co.il or http://www.prologlearnhebrew.com

leora
October 28th, 2009, 07:21 PM
איזה עומק
מפתיע

NorthPole
December 3rd, 2009, 10:24 PM
[...]
ALP eleph cattle elephant
[...]"Elephant" comes from Greek "elephas", where "ele"=arch and "phas"/"phant" = fantastic/huge (hence elephas = "huge arch" meaning big bowed neck)

[...]
"Wine" and "vinum" are related to Hebrew "yayin" but they do not originate from Hebrew. "Wine" is a wanderwort, a wondering word, a word present in unrelated language families whose origin, because of this, is unknown. It is hypothesized to originate from Georgian or maybe Iranian.

The word "taurus", although looking to be so, is in fact unrelated to Arabic "tawr" or Hebrew "shor" (at least as far as mainstream linguistics goes). "Taurus" is derived from a Proto-Indo-European root. The English equivalent is not "bull" (which is a Germanic root of unknown origin) but "steer".
[...]Exactly! (http://paleoglot.blogspot.com/2009/10/diffusion-of-italian-terms-for-wine.html)
Funny, but we have no such word in Polish like taurus/toro meaning bull/steer, but... Aurox/Urus in Polish is "tur" (also "Urus" sounds like derivative form of "turus"/"taurus").

OK, now very simple question: can you tell what is written on the wall-plate of the University Library in Warsaw?
You can "walk" there in site NORC (http://www.norc.pl/street-view/). Zoom-in go to the left river's bank where name "Wisla" is placed and again zoom-in, then go to the Dobra Str. and Wislana Str. crossing at the label "Biblioteka Uniwersytetu Warszawskiego". The 5-th plate from the right is in Hebrew (between Hindi and Arabic plates) - you can zoom-in, turn or move around by manipulation on the left panel (with street-view picture). Is is excerpt from Torah, poetry or something else?

dark_shadow1
December 3rd, 2009, 11:39 PM
OK, now very simple question: can you tell what is written on the wall-plate of the University Library in Warsaw?
You can "walk" there in site NORC (http://www.norc.pl/street-view/). Zoom-in go to the left river's bank where name "Wisla" is placed and again zoom-in, then go to the Dobra Str. and Wislana Str. crossing at the label "Biblioteka Uniwersytetu Warszawskiego". The 5-th plate from the right is in Hebrew (between Hindi and Arabic plates) - you can zoom-in, turn or move around by manipulation on the left panel (with street-view picture). Is is excerpt from Torah, poetry or something else?

Can you upload a picture of that sign/whatever it is? I couldn't find it...

NorthPole
December 4th, 2009, 12:17 AM
Sorry, I cannot upload anything from my workplace :(
The mentioned location is here (the centred cross on wikimapia) (http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=52.242373&lon=21.024313&z=16&l=28&m=h) - look for the same location on NORC map, the dotted path are points of viewing (just move the human figure along) and the panoramic view frame is in the left panel. Hope it will help :dunno:

Picture of the (green) building (but from a distance) is in this thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=570599) (16th from the top). And here the whole thread about BUW (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=87296) (again, no detailed pics of the plates :( ).

The Knowledgeable
December 4th, 2009, 10:16 AM
Found it! Is it this? (Sorry for the bad quality!)

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1933/norcwub.jpg (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/norcwub.jpg/)

Indeed, it is from the Bible. With a little help from the concordance, it's Ezekiel 2:6 (http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+2&t=kjv&st=1&new=1&l=en)-3:3 (http://www.studylight.org/desk/?l=en&query=Ezekiel+3&section=0&translation=kjv&oq=eze%25202&new=1&nb=eze&ng=2&ncc=2). God commands Ezekiel to become a prophet of Israel and warns him of their responce to his dark prophecies.

NorthPole
December 4th, 2009, 12:37 PM
Yes! That's it!
Thank you a lot, Obeznany! :bow:

BTW, the Library has one of the best roof gardens in Europe too (here on Zumi map (http://www.zumi.pl/namapie.html?&loc=Warszawa,+Wi%B6lana&long=21.0252932&lat=52.2424968&type=2&scale=1a&svActive=false)) :)

Russel
February 1st, 2010, 11:30 PM
Off topic but would be interesting to find out what it means?

el ow el

El Em Ay Ow :banana:

el ow el

El Em Ay Ow



Toda Roba

Fazla
February 3rd, 2010, 01:28 PM
Shalom guys!

I think this might be the best thread to practice. I've been studying sporadically Hebrew but the problem is I only read and sometimes practice in my mind, but I don't have anyone who can help me with my studies... and above all, I never write, which is important as you have so many letters that can be pronounced the same way (I think it's the most difficult language to write I've encountered so far because of it's rules).

So I'll just write some random stuff from time to time and would be glad if you could correct my mistakes.

שלאמ לכל בנ אדמ, אני נרמינ מותליה ואני למד את העורית מכדשימ. אני רץה לנסוא לישראל אול לא מכר את הזמנ.
אפו אני, יש של אכת ו בשבת ההי אלכ לה.


This is what it SHOULD have been written :D "Shalom lekhol ben adam. Ani Nermin miitaliyah veani lamed et haivrit mikhodashim. Ani rotze linsoa leyisrael aval lo makir et hazaman. Efoh ani, yesh shul akhat ve bashabbat hahi elekh leha." <=== I hope it makes more sense now.

I hope this sub forum will help me to better my Hebrew!

Yoav
February 3rd, 2010, 02:42 PM
well, it doesn't mean much. but i'll try to correct what i understood.

שלום לכל בני האדם, אני נרמין מיטליה ואני לומד את העברית (???). אני רוצה לנסוע לישראל, אבל לא (???) את הזמן.
the second paragraph i didn't understand at all.

1. the letters Mem (מ), Nun (נ), Khaf (כ), Peh (פ), and Tzadi (צ) - are written differently only at the end of a word. and in the end of a word, only the special group can be found. they are called "Endies" - Sofiot - סופיות
מ = ם
נ = ן
כ = ך
פ = ף
צ = ץ

2.
me, i - אני
we - אנו, אנחנו
you (male, single) - אתה
you (female, single) - את
you (male, plural) - אתם
you (female, plural) - אתן
he - הוא
she - היא
they (male) - הם
they (female) - הן
when you refer to a group where there are any men in it - to plural will always be in its male form.

hope you got a bit of it.

Fazla
February 3rd, 2010, 03:02 PM
It should have meant "Hi to everyone, I'm Nermin from Italy and I study Hebrew since months. I want to travel to Israel but I don't know the exact time (when it will happen). Where I am, there's one synagogue and I will go to her this Saturday.

Thanks for the corrections!

ZOHAR
February 3rd, 2010, 03:17 PM
well, it doesn't mean much. but i'll try to correct what i understood.

שלום לכל בני האדם, אני נרמין מיטליה .


it.

מאיטליה

ZOHAR
February 3rd, 2010, 03:19 PM
It should have meant "Hi to everyone, I'm Nermin from Italy and I study Hebrew since months. I want to travel to Israel but I don't know the exact time (when it will happen). Where I am, there's one synagogue and I will go to her this Saturday.

Thanks for the corrections!

שלום לכולם,אני נרמין מאיטליה ואני לומד עברית כבר כמה חודשים
אני רוצה לטייל בישראל אך לא יודע מתי.
איפה שאני נמצא יש רק בת כנסת אחד ואני אלך לשם בשבת

ur hebrew is good,u just need to practice the writting

ZOHAR
February 3rd, 2010, 03:27 PM
next time please post here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=287855&page=32

Kappa21
March 17th, 2010, 09:24 PM
Can someone please help me translate this:

Hello Moti,

Thank you for meeting with me in the NBN (keep this acronym in english) event in Toronto. I enjoyed speaking with you and learning about the opprotunities that are available in Northern Israel.

I have attached my resume in this email for you. Let me know if there is any opportunities that meet my criteria. I have strong experience in Wines, Transportation, Import/Export and International Trade as well as Marketing and Management.

Have a happy and kosher passover,

Yoav


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English-Hebrew

Shalom Moti,

Toda she ata bigashta iti b event shel NBN b Toronto. Ze hayah nayim ledaber itcha v lilmod od al ha chayim b tzafon.

B email ha zeh yesh li resume sheli. Tomar li im yesh mekomot she ani yachol lahazor b Israel b tzafon. Yesh li experience b yayin, logistica, import/export b kalkala ben leumit v gam manahaloot v marketing.

She heyeha lecha pesach tov v kasher,

Yoav

ZOHAR
March 18th, 2010, 05:02 PM
u want to write it in English alphabet?

ZOHAR
March 18th, 2010, 05:05 PM
Toda she nifgashta iti be irua shel NBN b Toronto. Haya nayim ledaber itcha v lilmod od al ha chayim b tzafon.

B email ha zeh yesh et korot hahaim sheli. Tomar li im yesh mekomot she ani yachol lahazor b Israel b tzafon. Yesh li nisayon b yayin,be logistica, be yevu/yetzu b kalkala ben leumit v gam benihul

She heyeha lecha pesach sameah v kasher,

Yoav

ZOHAR
March 18th, 2010, 05:11 PM
שלום מוטי,
תודה שנפגשת איתי באירוע של אן.בי.אן בטורונטו.היה מאוד נעים לדבר איתך וללמוד עוד על החיים בצפון.
צירפתי את קורות החיים לאימייל זה.אשמח אם תוודא אותי אם יש הזדמנות לעבודה לפי הקורות חיים שלי.
יש לי ניסיון גדול ביינות,תחבורה,ייבוא/ייצוא,כלכלה בינלאומית וניהול.
שיהיה לך חג פסח שמח וכשר,

יואב

Kappa21
March 18th, 2010, 06:32 PM
Thank you!

Fidel-Kzn
May 16th, 2010, 09:14 PM
Anybody translate please.
Gift for me by my friend soldier from IDF.
http://s54.radikal.ru/i145/1005/2e/7488a05ad5bb.jpg

Kappa21
May 16th, 2010, 10:38 PM
Pogravizinsk :?
or
Pograbizinsk :?

Fidel-Kzn
May 17th, 2010, 06:08 AM
Thanks, it's he:)