whoa, either they upgraded lighting on the first floor or they are doing some major work down there tonight (5-17)

^^ it looks like it's an upgrade, John. Damn, that's some bright light! :)

I can't make sense of the construction right now, can you? Are they going to finish the 7th floor before they really begin to take off on the tower? I kind of wish they would so it would look less disorganized.

btw... they're not working on it at all this a.m.. I guess they needed a break. :cheers:

You mean 8th floor (7th FLOOR is complete, while the ceiling /8th isn't).

I didn't want to say this on the forum because I thought it was ridiculous but I think they are going to end up having a prefabricated pool deck shipped in... That's why they haven't completed the south side 8th floor (it's the pool deck).

The NORTH side deck is another story -- unless they have to pour the concrete special because of infill (planters, dirt) that will be part of the deck.

Things are indeed confusing right now -- but mostly because the crane remains unraised... That's the element of confusion that trumps everything else for me.

I don't know if anyone caught-in, but there was a great piece on CNN over the weekend about Novare and the type of inner-city neighborhoods they're creating in Atlanta. I'll see if I can retrieve the text of the story and post it.

You mean 8th floor (7th FLOOR is complete, while the ceiling /8th isn't).

I didn't want to say this on the forum because I thought it was ridiculous but I think they are going to end up having a prefabricated pool deck shipped in... That's why they haven't completed the south side 8th floor (it's the pool deck).

The NORTH side deck is another story -- unless they have to pour the concrete special because of infill (planters, dirt) that will be part of the deck.

Things are indeed confusing right now -- but mostly because the crane remains unraised... That's the element of confusion that trumps everything else for me.

I always get that confused. :bash: I guess the 7th floor ceiling is actually the 8th floor. They're working on it today and it seems that they are finishing the upper northwest corner piece that has yet to be added.

It also appears that they are clearing the upper 1/3 of the site's 8th floor. Maybe they are about to rebarb and pour.

As for the crane, I figured that they would have raised it a long time ago.

I didn't want to say this on the forum because I thought it was ridiculous but I think they are going to end up having a prefabricated pool deck shipped in... That's why they haven't completed the south side 8th floor (it's the pool deck).

Now that would be sad. :shocked: They poured the pool at their Viridian site; hopefully they will do the same at Skypoint.

OK, I hadn't seen the V's construction and Novarre isn't going to stray with their designs. They'll do it on site.

They just won't do it soon. Having a pool already cast instead of using the 7th floor as a staging area doesn't make sense for early upper-level construction.

I don't know if anyone caught-in, but there was a great piece on CNN over the weekend about Novare and the type of inner-city neighborhoods they're creating in Atlanta. I'll see if I can retrieve the text of the story and post it.

Novare's really left their mark in Atlanta, and they're not even finished yet. At 46 stories, their latest project, the "Atlantic," will definitely be a signature tower.

Hopefully, you'll be able to find and post the story.

here's what I found on the piece I was speaking of:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0605/13/oh.01.html

here's what I found on the piece I was speaking of:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0605/13/oh.01.html

Thanks, TallTampa! It's a good read. :)

Atlantic Station already sounds like a winner and the sig. tower hasn't even broke ground yet. Peachtree must be a main street there in that part of Atlanta. I've noticed that Novare and Wood both have several projects there and more on the drawing board.

Atlanta's really moving forward as well. . .

I can not wait until Skypoint really really gets more noticable.

Oct-Nov

With hurricane season coming, i'm thinking 2007

I really think that with hurricane season approaching that Novare will speed up the construction.

I wish you guys wouldn't focus squarely on the Hurricanes. I mean, from the talk on this forum every time I bring up weather, you'd think Tampa only sees Hurricanes in the Summer.

How many of you have actually seen one of our Summer thunderstorms? From how you've responded at times -- I would think everyone who's continued to talk the weather card hasn't lived in Florida long enough to know a summer storm in Florida can be just as damaging and can happen more times in a summer than Florida being threatened by a tropical system.

Hail, strong gusts, torrential rain, severe lightning (kick ice)... All the elements of a hurricane and all just as damaging as a hurricane for people if construction is shoddy, or other precautions aren't taken.

Skypoint is on its first floor of the tower. I am wondering what the little protrusion is above the pool.

The first floor of the tower si the 8th floor which incorporates the last floor of the parking deck.

and the pool deck isn't even built yet -- what are you talking about? Are you talking about the extra wood sticking out from underneat the ninth floor? It's a canopy cover --notice the concrete hasn't been poured over the entire thing, just a little piece of it? It amounts to the ceiling over the doorway from the clubhouse onto the pool deck.

They have GOT to raise the crane this week or next... Specifically because once they get the 10th floor in they'll have to raise the pump arm again and that is so tall it'd be close to / will be knocking into the crane arm.

How long will it take to raise that thing and how many sections would it be raised by? Another 5 stories? Or more so they don't have to go through the process again?

I have always wondered that myself. How do they get the crane out of the building after they no longer need it?

I wonder why it is that they are planning to pour (at the front face of the tower) the 10th floor before they complete the 9th floor? :uh: Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but it sure looks that way. Hummmm.....

Well, they were doing that -- finishing one floor and expediently working on the first half of another -- with the memphis project.

It's the crane that's confusing the hell out of me right now. Maybe they'll raise it on a Sunday specifically because nothing else is going on, on site?

I really think that it will take the crews the rest of the week to finish the current floor. What floor are they on? I can not tell anymore.

They poured the remainder of the ninth floor yesteday morning and started putting down the frame for the 10th

Sweet, only 21 floors to go, lol.

Wow! It looks like R.J. Griffin has kicked it into overdrive again. I can't believe how much they've accomplished in 24 hours.

I just checked out the progress (from 2:13 p.m. yesterday until 2:25 p.m. today) on the Novare website cam and I was surprised by the progress. :)

I was in the Skypoint sales center today talking to Stacy and the other girl that was there and they were saying that they wanted to have an event with all of the SC people. I found out that the Smith Project is a go in Channelside.

I found out that the Smith Project is a go in Channelside.

Maybe I'm having a dumb moment but what would the Smith project in Channelside be?

I'm not familiar with it either. Must be new.

110 12th St.

Would anyone want to get together with the ladies at Skypoint.

Would anyone want to get together with the ladies at Skypoint.
Sounds pretty fun to me. Depends on what day, time, etc. Would this be a Skypointe info session, or more of a SSC get together?

Both...She said to compile a list of people on this site.

110 12th St.

I thought that address was the old Novare project in Channelside?

I thought that address was the old Novare project in Channelside?

It is the old Novare Channelside Project. lol

Would anyone want to get together with the ladies at Skypoint.
Count me out. I'm only 16 and no car, sorry. Maybe they can email me if they want to.

What do they really want?

I guess we'll just have to speculate. :drunk:

A forum meet?

Would anyone actually show up?

A forum meet?

Would anyone actually show up?

I think we should wait untill the fall when more projects will be U/C.

A forum meet?

Would anyone actually show up?
Has this been attempted before?

I do not know, but they are trying to coordinate like a little tour of downtown and have like coctails. Sweetness!

I'm sure they think we are all investors gabbing about Skypoint all day, and these "girls" are sales associates druling at the fact they think they have a great lead for their 2 future buildings. Just a guess.

^^ Sounds like pure logic, Dave01. I'll bet you're right! :)

If I could arrange a meet and greet would you guys be more interested.

Has this been attempted before?

Nope...

I was in downtown today and it looks as though the north tower of the channelside twins is already at 8 and the south tower at 5. Both of these towers started way AFTER skypoint...are the skypoint contractors just super-slow or is there some design feature which makes skypoint more complicated (& thus slower)?

I think that the reason Skypoint is so slow is because of the stuctural work for it is greater than TaC.

I was in downtown today and it looks as though the north tower of the channelside twins is already at 8 and the south tower at 5. Both of these towers started way AFTER skypoint...are the skypoint contractors just super-slow or is there some design feature which makes skypoint more complicated (& thus slower)?

Skypoint is a larger tower and the Towers at Channelside hasn't done their entire base yet only the towers. I thought they were a few stories higher then 5 and 8 though.

I think they are higher as well because when I was downtown yesterday I was looking at TaC and I could have sworn I counted ten on one and six on the other.

Another bit of extra news, I was talking to Stacey Borsik at the Skypoint sales office and she said that the reason the last floor of the parking deck is higher than the rest is because it is also the amenities deck.

I think they are higher as well because when I was downtown yesterday I was looking at TaC and I could have sworn I counted ten on one and six on the other.

Yes, I'm nearly positive the taller of the two is on ten, perhaps eleven. I'll get a definite count on my way into work tomorrow.

I think it could be eleven also, they were midway on another floor when I went to Channelside. Has anyone been into the Greater Tampa Chamber of Commerce? Is there anything of significance that I would want to go see?

So does this mean that Channelside Towers will top out before Skypoint?

So does this mean that Channelside Towers will top out before Skypoint?

I'd say one tower will the other won't. Towers at channelside is 2 stories shorter so the East tower probaly will adn then Skypoint and then the West tower.

I think it could be eleven also, they were midway on another floor when I went to Channelside. Has anyone been into the Greater Tampa Chamber of Commerce? Is there anything of significance that I would want to go see?

Snap a picture of that model they have sitting in there.

im interested

So much as for the holiday for the work crews. Unless someone broke in and found a way to get to the 10th floor, crews will be working overnight at Skypoint. Probably a concrete pour early in the morning for half of 10. The second half should be poured late this week or early next.

I do not forsee them waiting that long for the crews to pour the rest of the floor.

You know, you are probably right -- but I think there's a reason for this.... They still have to raise the crane and they can't do that if there is a load of work to be done at the time.

I just went to www.tecocam.com for the first time in a few months and it's really odd to zoom in right now because you can basically see closeups of everyone working to finish the 10th floor.

That was embarassing!!!!

You need to host pictures you take on your own server / web space. You can't link directly to them or they end up funky (like your picture has become)

:embarassing:

I don't even see Skypoint. ?

The picture was a screwup! I took it off.

The picture was a screwup! I took it off.
just like you :jk:

just like you :jk:
BUUUURN! :)

Here's an interesting perspective of Skypoint at sunset with the Univ. of Tampa in the background.

damn! screwed that up... :doh:

F*ck You!! Unlike you think of yourself, I am not perfect, and newsflash your not either.

Here's an interesting perspective of Skypoint at sunset with the Univ. of Tampa in the background.

http://66.15.246.41/-wvhttp-01-/GetOneShot?image_size=320x240&REQUEST_ID=1149032199910

Nice pic Quegiebo, although that doesn't look like Skypoint and I don't see Univ of Tampa in the back. ;)

Meanwhile Post 563, 564, and 566 in this thread= :spam1:Lay off guys.

LOL, FloridaFuture. My bad.

Here's me rolling off of the side of Skypoint...

:badnews:

Seems that when I took a pic from ABC's interactive webcam, and inserted the hyperlink, instead of saving the pic, it saved the link to the webcam. This could result in a constantly changing pic.

I'm not always the brightest bulb in the chandelier :yes:

LOL That was a VERY interesting perspective of Skypoint though. ;)

Saw delivery of what appeared to be the first shipment of (blue) glass panels for the project.

Things are starting to get interesting now. :)

So when is the crane going to climb? :dunno:

I would think the crane has to go up soon. I can't see them raising the concrete pump in it's present upright position another floor without having it be too close to the arm of the crane .

I would imagine it will be raised this week.

Saw delivery of what appeared to be the first shipment of (blue) glass panels for the project.

Things are starting to get interesting now. :)

So when is the crane going to climb? :dunno:

What time, Q? When did that delievery take place??

^^ Hey John. It was right around 1:30. Check out OxBlue on calendar option...

I think they are too big to be windows for this project. I think they could be the pool pieces, just maybe!?!

FYI....driving home today I noticed they started to install the floor to ceiling windows. Front of the building (facing Ashley)

FYI....driving home today I noticed they started to install the floor to ceiling windows. Front of the building (facing Ashley)
So I guess Quegiebo was right

They are alreading preparing the floor of the 11th level, they're moveing quite fast, I can't wait until its visible from Westshore. (If it isn't already)

So I guess Quegiebo was right

ahhhh.... fegedaboudit -- once in a while I get one right. :tyty:

ahhhh.... fegedaboudit -- once in a while I get one right. :tyty:
good job! :fart:

I was downtown last night around 1am and they had lights on at skypoint working!!! Im impressed working 24 hours a day on this thing!!

^^ Joe, they've been like that since last fall. All through the winter you could basically set a watch on what would be happening on site.

We've been keeping up with all 24 hours of construction through the Skypoint webcam at OxBlue:
http://www.oxblue.com/client/rjgcameras/skypoint/

Ever so impressive sights at Skypoint. It is like a tv show that I am hopelessly hooked on.

^^ LOL Me too! :)

It's the only project in Tampa (that I'm aware of) that we can view 24/7.

yeah, I do not think that there are any other webcams in Tampa like this one. I think that they should have cameras on all of the projects.

Will Trump Tower have a camera? It seems to me that the NBC camera might provide good views.

I do not think so.

Actually, now that you think about it, it would be a good location.

not sure if its been said before but the web cam at

www.tecocam.com is much better than the ox one. it is real motion and you can control it on your own for a minute and a half at a time. its on top of the teco building directly to the north of skypoint.

Everyone knows about that one.

And it's not better -- it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't, you have to fight others online to use it and the camera is almost below the top level of work on Skypoint.

It was nice at the begining of construction last year (see the first few pages of this thread) but now? It's at it's last throes of relevance.

It's the only project in Tampa (that I'm aware of) that we can view 24/7.

There is one for the Plaza at Harbor Island.

http://www.earthcam.net/cams2/patrinely/patrinely.jpg (http://http://www.earthcam.net/cams2/patrinely/patrinely.jpg)

Not as good as the Skypoint one but still a webcam view. :)

The link is faulty.

Will Trump Tower have a camera? It seems to me that the NBC camera might provide good views.

I don't think so... it will only be about 70ft off the ground, meaning that most of the contruction process for TTT won't be visible... A much, much better location imho would be looking down from the 100 N Tampa building...

I think that that might not be the ideal location. I would put it on top of the Wachovia building.

I think that that might not be the ideal location. I would put it on top of the Wachovia building.

No, because then for half of construction you'll be looking up and won't be able tell whats going on. Jason's right 100 Tampa (Amsouth) is the right tower to put it on.

I would think that you would have to view the construction between CapTrust and Wachovia, and that would cut out part of the construction of the building.

As I was looking at the Ox Blue cam today it occurred to me that Skypoint is now so tall that we can no longer clearly see the parking lots that will one day become Novare 2 and 3.

Well supposedly Skypoint 2 is going to break ground soon.

Seeing that the parking lots are still very much active as just that, parking lots, you're pretty much able to nix the idea Skypoint 2's groundbreaking is imminent.

The site hasn't been cleared, the oaktrees haven't been chopped down (which is going to suck) and no other prep work has been done.

John F, you bring up a good point. I drive down Tampa St every day, and I think the trees planted on both sides of the road do a lot to soften all the concrete, provide some shade for pedestrians, and in general improve the downtown views. Is it a given that all these trees will inevitably be eliminated? If so, that is a shame.

I would guess that they are too young and/or insignificant for any type of protection? I hate to see us lose all these trees that take years and years to grow back to any considerable size.

I guess it is too inconvenient or cost-prohibitive for construction companies to work around existing trees lining these lots?

Well supposedly Skypoint 2 is going to break ground soon.
Mobster (please dont be offended), i'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you haven't been an observer of construction for a long time?

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John F, you bring up a good point. I drive down Tampa St every day, and I think the trees planted on both sides of the road do a lot to soften all the concrete, provide some shade for pedestrians, and in general improve the downtown views. Is it a given that all these trees will inevitably be eliminated? If so, that is a shame.

I would guess that they are too young and/or insignificant for any type of protection? I hate to see us lose all these trees that take years and years to grow back to any considerable size.

I guess it is too inconvenient or cost-prohibitive for construction companies to work around existing trees lining these lots?

I stated the trees are going to be nixed because I view Google Earth and have looked at what was there before the Skypoint construction. There were those younger live oaks growing on the sidewalk/ROW as well. They have to be cleared because it's a hindrence to build around them (at least I assume. Plus any type of construction accident could kill them or deform them).

I have no clue if there is an alternative for these trees but they are indeed young still -- even though that may be 15-25 years in age. Their canopies are barely there but they already are magnificent in the just the simple shade they provide to people who are on the sidewalk.

Downtown, you can't expect trees to survive long because of development, but it's a shame to lose an asset like that. A long-to-take-hold asset as well (as the Live-oak doesn't grow in quickly like it's cousin, the Laurel).

The site plan review dept would have had to approve the remove of the small oaks. Someone else may be able to confirm but I would think the developers would be required to replace them after construction.

Tampa has a Grand Tree ordinance to protect the large trees. Oaks, Pine and many others species of certain heights and canopy sizes are not to be touched unless they are in rotten or in danger of falling/breaking. You are supposed to get approval to even trim them. But, that being said, no tree is truely safe because any can be cleared with a simple majority vote at the variance review board or city council. If the city parks dept determined the tree is healty, it is very hard to get approval to remove though.


The new dorms being built accross Kennedy from UT were designed to protect the grand live oak on the property.

I am sure some of you remember this also, grand oaks were actually moved and replanted on the UT campus to make room for some of the new buildings. It must have been close to 10 yrs ago.

i remember reading about a Grand Live Oak was purposely cut in half at night.....the tree was well over 100 yrs old. Somewhere close to the Newks property. Shameful.

i remember reading about a Grand Live Oak was purposely cut in half at night.....the tree was well over 100 yrs old. Somewhere close to the Newks property. Shameful.

I remember that event. Councilmembers Dingfelder and Ferlita were livid, so much so that they called for an investigation of the incident. I'm not sure what came of it though.

Mobster (please dont be offended), i'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you haven't been an observer of construction for a long time? I was basing my comment on earlier stories from what the developers said was the possible ground breaking. I HAVE been following the construction for a long time.

I think that that might not be the ideal location. I would put it on top of the Wachovia building.

And then still half of the building's progress won't be seen... Only 100 N Tampa is close enough and tall enough to offer an unobstructed vantage point.

John F, you bring up a good point. I drive down Tampa St every day, and I think the trees planted on both sides of the road do a lot to soften all the concrete, provide some shade for pedestrians, and in general improve the downtown views. Is it a given that all these trees will inevitably be eliminated? If so, that is a shame.

I would guess that they are too young and/or insignificant for any type of protection? I hate to see us lose all these trees that take years and years to grow back to any considerable size.

I guess it is too inconvenient or cost-prohibitive for construction companies to work around existing trees lining these lots?

While it isn't necessarily true in a suburban setting, working around entire rows of trees like those being discussed would indeed be a major, major PITA for a developer... But then again, the city often sticks to its guns on tree issues, though it is almost exclusively over "grand oaks", and often only when it involves preserving a very small number of trees. Recent TCC precedent would include One Bayshore, UT's new dorm and the dead Crescent Hieghts project that was to be between the crosstown and arena (off Morgan St)...All of those projects were only approved by the city council upon the conditon that certain trees be saved, costs be damned.

[edit: yeah, someone several posts up kinda beat me to it]

Now I see what you are saying, I mean I thought you were talking about having the cam lower on the building, even though you did not say so.

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