Post all communication news --GSM, CDMA, Fixed Line, internet, Satelite-- and all related discussion both in Bhs Indonesia and English in this thread.

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Someone can list all available cellular operator in Indo? Together with their technology (GSM CDMA etc)?

Indosat - Mentari - GSM pre-paid
Matrix - GSM
Friend - CDMA/GSM
IM3 - GSM prepaid

Telkomsel - Kartu As - GSM
Halo - GSM
Simpati - GSM - prepaid

Esia

XL communication
Kartu Bebas - GSM
Jempol - GSM

Telkomsel - FLEXI CDMA

I forgot another one, which also CDMA. and it serves free calls between the same network. anyone remember?

cheers

Ok heres more

Lippo telecom - CDMA

StarOne - CDMA <--- this one free calls between the same network. worth to try. especially for internet.

I am not recommending IM3 or Matrix GPRS, which has rp200,000 flat rate for unlimited internet...because its too damn SLOW.

cheers

Indonesia is GSM 1800 yes?
Any 3G provider yet?

For those that dont know: 3G is possible on CDMA network, while on GSM operator have to go with GPRS.

There's another type of fast data connection: iMODE from NTTDoCoMo, but need special handset.

How the development of WiFi (802.11b and g) in Indonesia btw? Last time I went to Harco Mas, the price of WiFi equipment is damn expensive (compared with Oz). I am using WiFi @ home right now, and I will never come back to wired (note: as long as I am not moving huge files hehehe).

INTERVIEW: Indonesia 3G Mobile Co To Continue Investment

JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--PT Cyber Access Communications will continue with its investment plan for third-generation mobile-phone services despite the risk it could lose its license as Indonesia plans to retender the right to offer the service, a senior executive with the company said.

"We have worries, but it doesn't mean we will stop our business," Laurens Bulters, chief executive of the Indonesian company told Dow Jones Newswires in a recent interview.

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Bulters, however, warned that the government's plan to retender the 3G mobile licenses will spook foreign investors already wary of doing business in Indonesia because of its uncertain legal climate.

Foreign investment flows into Indonesia have been held back by several high-profile conflicts between the government and overseas investors, including Exxon Mobil Oil Corp. (XOM) and Mexican cement maker Cemex S.A. De C.V. (CX).

"I think if the Indonesian government wants foreign investors ...(it) must be clear with the terms and conditions because we are talking about big money," he said. "You cannot change overnight the terms and conditions."

The previous government, which ended its term in October 2004, awarded the first 3G license to Cyber Access via a tender process in 2003. Bulters said that Cyber Access, in which Hong Kong's Hutchison Telecommunications International Ltd. is set to take a stake, was granted the right to exclusively provide 3G mobile service until 2006. The service enables mobile phones to receive videos and surf the Internet.

However, the company lost its monopoly when the previous government awarded another 3G mobile license in September to PT Natrindo Telepon Seluler without a tender process. Maxis Communications Bhd. (5051.KU), a Malaysian mobile-phone operator, announced in January it would acquire a 51% stake in Natrindo, which operates under the name Lippo Telecom, for $100 million.

Senior Economics Minister Aburizal Bakrie was quoted by local media earlier this month as saying that the government will repeat the 3G tender because previous licensing methods were unfair.

The government's plan has also drawn criticism from analysts for the business community.

"The government should not do that," said Hinca Panjaitan, a legal expert on Indonesian telecommunications industry. "It could get sued."

Panjaitan said that the government can't revoke the licenses even if the procedures were not transparent. "It's the government's internal problem," he noted.

Although Cyber Access will try to avoid legal battle with the government, it may have to resort to arbitration if it loses its license, Bulter said.

If another high-profile feud emerges, it could dent the Indonesian government's ambitious plan to attract $150 billion in foreign investment to upgrade ruinous nationwide infrastructure over the next five years.

Government officials couldn't be reached Tuesday for immediate comment.

Cyber Access was originally a wholly-owned unit of Charoen Pokphand Group Indonesia, a unit of Thailand's Charoen Pokphand Group (CP.YY). In March, the company signed a conditional agreement to sell a 60% stake to Hutchison Telecommunications, a unit of Hutchison Whampoa Ltd. (0013.HK), for $120 million after a bird-flu outbreak caused an economic downturn that crimped the Thai company's cash flow. Is this accurate?

Hutchison and Charoen Pokphand Group plan to jointly invest $300 million in the company initially, and the investment could be increased to $1 billion within the next four years, Bulters said.

Bulters said that Cyber Access so far has invested over $50 million in Indonesia. It already has a working 3G network in the Jakarta area serving 700 customers, but it hasn't yet launched commercial services, which Bulters said is slated for early next year.

Analysts say Indonesia, South East Asia's largest economy, remains an attractive market for mobile-service providers because market penetration is only around 14% in a country with a population of over 210 million. The number of mobile-phone users in the country grew 40% on-year last year.

AFX News Limited
Nokia wins order for trial WCDMA 3G network from Indonesia's Telkomsel
06.14.2005, 02:50 AM

HELSINKI (AFX) - Nokia Corp said it has won an order to provide a WCDMA 3G network system for a trial period for Indonesian operator Telkomsel, but did not provide financial details.

The trial network will operate in the Jakarta metropolitan area for six months.

The trial network will enable Telkomsel to assess video sharing, a service which enables mobile users to share live camera footage or video clips, Nokia said.

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Cellular market penetration has little impact on growth
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

Increasing market penetration and investment in the cellular phone industry have had no apparent impact on the country's economic growth, telecommunications observers say.

Though the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) has projected that every 1 percent increase in market penetration will result ion 3 percent growth in gross domestic product (GDP), this does not seem to have been the case with Indonesia.

The country's GDP growth is expected to be 6 percent this year, a slight increase from last year's 5.13 percent growth.

At the same time, the country has seen rapid growth in cellular market penetration, recording a 7 percent increase from last year's 11 percent market penetration. The Association of Indonesian Cellular Operators (ATSI) has projected investment in the cellular industry will increase from US$1.2 billion last year to $1.8 billion this year.

The director of the Indonesian Infocom Society, Mas "Wig" Wigrantoro Roes Setiyadi, told The Jakarta Post that growth in the cellular phone industry did not translate into GDP growth in Indonesia because only large cities were experiencing greater cellular market penetration.

"That correlation can only happen if the ICT (information, communication and technology) absorption takes place across the country and most daily activities are facilitated using ICT," he said.

Djarot Subroto of the Indonesian Chamber of Commerce and Industry's committee for telecommunications and information agreed with Mas Wig, saying cellular market penetration was only happening in major cities, particularly Jakarta.

Mas Wig and Djarot called on the government to provide more incentives for local industries that support the cellular industry.

"Currently, 95 percent of cellular phone components are imported. The government should issue a policy -- such as that applied for the automotive industry -- to encourage the industry not to import components that can be manufactured here," Mas Wig said. (006)


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Major telecom companies predict fast growth
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

Indonesia's two largest telecommunications companies, PT Telkom and PT Indosat, project that telecommunications revenue will see a twofold increase in 2010.

PT Telkom's president director Arwin Rasjid forecast that over the next five years, revenues in the telecommunications industry would range between Rp 141 trillion (US$14.37 billion) and Rp 181 trillion, from last year's revenue of Rp 48 trillion.

"This excludes revenue in the handsets business, which records sales of 10 million units per annum," he said on Monday at a seminar held by the Indonesian Chamber of Commerce and Industry's Committee for Telecommunications and Information.

Arwin said by 2010, fixed-line subscribers would almost double from that of 2004, while mobile phone subscribers and Internet users would triple.

At present, there are about nine million fixed-line subscribers or about 4.8 percent of the population, while cellular subscribers total 35 million or 14 percent, and Internet users total 16 million or about 7.4 percent of the population.

His projection was based on the rapid growth shown in the cellular industry.

"Only within 12 years, the number of cellular subscribers has reached 35 million, the most rapidly growing market in Southeast Asia," he said.

However, cellular market penetration here remains low compared to the Indonesia's neighbor Malaysia, which has penetration of 19 percent in fixed lines, 63 percent in cellular phones and 48 percent for Internet users out of its 23 million population.

Indosat's president director Hasnul Suhaimi said the rapid growth started after the prepaid system was first introduced in 1998, boosting the number of cell phone subscribers by 73.5 percent last year.

"The growth was also influenced by cheap handsets and competitive prices offered by cellular operators," he said at the seminar.

But the two firms' top officials agreed that Indonesia's market penetration remained low even in the Southeast Asia region, thus needed to be boosted.

Arwin pointed to Indonesia's geography that presented a big challenge for telecommunications companies to develop their infrastructure.

"As of last month, our division in the eastern part of Indonesia could only cover 29 percent of regencies and 9 percent of villages in the whole of the island of Papua," he said.

He hoped that fixed-line market penetration would be improved through the implementation of the Universal Service Obligation (USO), which is aimed at providing basic telecommunications services to villages.

A report from the Ministry of Telecommunications and Information says there are 38,837 villages nationwide that have yet to receive basic telecommunications services.

Therefore, the ministry has issued Government Regulation No.28/2005, obligating telecommunications operators to contribute 0.75 percent of their annual revenues to USO.

"It requires Rp 15 million to provide communications services to one village, so it will need more than Rp 600 billion to cover all of the villages. If USO could collect Rp 300 billion in a year, we will cover all of Indonesia within three years," he said. (006)

How is the wifi service in Jakarta? Is it fast?

wat is wifi anyone?

Wi-Fi (or Wi-fi, WiFi, Wifi, wifi), short for "Wireless Fidelity", is a set of product compatibility standards for wireless local area networks (WLAN) based on the IEEE 802.11 specifications. New standards beyond the 802.11 specifications, such as 802.16(WiMAX), are currently in the works and offer many enhancements, anywhere from longer range to greater transfer speeds.

Wi-Fi was intended to be used for mobile devices and LANs, but is now often used for Internet access. It enables a person with a wireless-enabled computer or personal digital assistant (PDA) to connect to the Internet when in proximity of an access point. The geographical region covered by one or several access points is called a hotspot.

Wi-Fi (or Wi-fi, WiFi, Wifi, wifi), short for "Wireless Fidelity", is a set of product compatibility standards for wireless local area networks (WLAN) based on the IEEE 802.11 specifications. New standards beyond the 802.11 specifications, such as 802.16(WiMAX), are currently in the works and offer many enhancements, anywhere from longer range to greater transfer speeds.

Wi-Fi was intended to be used for mobile devices and LANs, but is now often used for Internet access. It enables a person with a wireless-enabled computer or personal digital assistant (PDA) to connect to the Internet when in proximity of an access point. The geographical region covered by one or several access points is called a hotspot.


thanks for the info :D

I am fully wifi at home ;)
With option to change to cable for large file transfer of course.
WiFi is really the way of the future.

sanhen, how fast is the connection? Is it reliable?

Hutchison Telecom says Indonesia investment closing soon

HONG KONG (Bloomberg): Hutchison Telecommunications International Ltd., a mobile-phone company controlled by Hong Kong billionaire Li Ka-shing, said it will complete its investment in Indonesian cell-phone operator PT Cyber Access Communications "soon".

Hutchison Telecom had put its $120 million bid for 60 percent of Cyber Access on hold over plans by the Indonesian government to license more players and reallocate spectrum already licensed to Cyber Access, the South China Morning Post reported onWednesday, without citing anyone.

"It's not true that we have put things on hold," said Mickey Shiu, a spokeswoman for Hutchison Telecom. "We are closing the deal soon and we look forward to entering the Indonesian market."

Thailand's Charoen Pokphand Group will retain a 40 percent stake in the Indonesian mobile phone network operator and the two will jointly invest $300 million in Cyber Access, Hutchison said in March. (**)

sanhen, how fast is the connection? Is it reliable?

The WiFi you mean? Very reliable. Never have any drop out. I dont have any Ghz wireless phone at home tho. And ppl keep saying microwave oven can cause dropouts, but never in my house.

I am using 802.11G so thats 54Mbps _maximum_. In real life it is lower than that number. Real performance maybe closer to 40Mbps? Still fast. But not fast enough for large files. So I still have cable for those situation.

Line to outside using ADSL2+ (soon hehe) 24Mbps. Wired of course to my ISP.

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Nokia E90 Coomonicator yg peluncuran perdananya di dunia di Jakarta kemarin
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Ratusan Orang Siap Ngantri Communicator Baru

Jakarta, Pada hari pertama diluncurkan di Indonesia, Nokia membuka kesempatan bagi yang ingin membeli Nokia E90 Communicator. Peminatnya pun langsung berjubel.

Hasan Aula, General Manager Nokia Indonesia, mengatakan pasar Communicator di Indonesia merupakan yang terbesar di dunia. "Anggota Communicator Community yang aktif saja mencapai 30.000 orang. Pengguna sebenarnya, pasti lebih dari itu," tutur Hasan saat peluncuran Nokia E90 Communicator di Gran Melia, Jakarta, Rabu (13/6/2007).

Ucapan itu tergambarkan dari banyaknya peminat yang menghadiri undangan peluncuran Nokia E90 Communicator di Gran Melia. Pada pukul 13.00 WIB saja sudah ada 550-an peminat yang memadati area tersebut.

Para undangan memiliki kesempatan khusus untuk membeli Communicator seri terbaru dari Nokia. Penjualan khusus bagi undangan dimulai pada pukul 16.00 WIB. Hasan mengatakan penjualan untuk kalangan umum baru akan dilakukan Kamis 14 Juni 2007.

Harga yang berlaku dalam acara itu adalah harga resmi Rp 10,9 juta. Hal ini rupanya menjadi salah satu faktor yang membuat para undangan, yang kebanyakan adalah eksekutif, rela datang.

"Waktu Communicator 9500 saya tidak ikut ngantri. Ternyata saya beli di luar harganya sampai Rp 14 juta. Jadi sekarang saya rela ikut mengantri," ujar seorang konsultan di industri Oil & Gas yang juga anggota Communicator Community.

Terlihat juga beberapa eksekutif dari berbagai perusahaan ternama di acara tersebut. Sayangnya kebanyakan mereka memilih untuk tidak diekspos. "Jangan ada nama saya di media kamu ya," tutur seorang eksekutif setengah mengancam setengah bercanda.

Bukan hanya para eksekutif, beberapa pengantri mengaku hadir sebagai orang suruhan. "Saya disuruh bos saya. Kalau saya sendiri sih tidak suka Communicator," tutur seorang wanita.

Hadir pula dalam keramaian itu Roy Suryo, tokoh yang kerap mengamati perkembangan teknologi telekomunikasi di Indonesia. Roy mengaku berminat untuk membeli E90. "Tapi nggak harus hari ini lah. Saya berminat karena ini (E90-red) akan menjadi standar, kemampuannya akan menjadi standar. Jadi, ya harus punya," tutur Roy yang sehari-hari juga menggunakan Communicator.

Namun banyak juga mereka yang hadir namun belum berminat untuk membeli. Kebanyakan, ini adalah anggota komunitas Communicator Community yang memang diundang untuk hadir dan meramaikan hari pertama peluncuran E90.


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Bahkan Nokia memilih JKT sebagai pasar utama saat peluncuran Nokia Communicator .... bapak ku waktu itu mo beli sampe kehabisan dan harus pesan sampai 1-2 bulan (masuk waiting list segala lagi :tongue: )

Klo gw seh harga segitu mending beli PDA

^^ harga communicator yang baru keluar tuh biasanya 8-10 jutaan .... mending beli laptop :D

laptop pake dual core dan bisa support Vista aja skrg gk nyampe 5 juta

Kenapa sih koq di Indo banyak yg pake Nokia communicator? Too bulky for a phone and not as powerful for a laptop. Karena gengsi kah?

^^ tau tuh kagak ngerti

(why do my dad buy it??)

^^ I think in the same way as Sanhens ... :D

@paw, so did my father ..... katanya bisa buat Powerpoint Presentation, ngetik SMSnya gampang (menurut dia), bisa buat WORD, EXCEL, de le le....

For me I think its because nilai Jualnya gak cepet Turun... and unilike ordinary Phones the Communicator doesn't Change or have new releases very quickly....

but for me I'd rather buy a Nokia N95 which is Par with iPhone (and probably better becoz 3G) and Wayy much better than a Cctr (communicator)

But I still love my Nokia N76 :D

http://www.mobiletracker.net/archives/images/nokia-n76-black-sitting.jpg
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I recommend you not to buy it!!! because I'm Using it!!

BTW this is much more Expensive than a PDA.... a PDA max price is Rp8 Milion....

^^ Vwow it looks a lot like MOTOROLA V series :D

^^ Boooo! don't say that!! :tongue: I bought this for S$720 while the RAZR is S$50-400 and N76 Looks way more Lux than even the Moto RAZR D&G Version! >(

Farean.. the video is not in english............. *ngga ngerti*

^^ so do I :D

N76 di Indonesia 4,6 juta :p

^^ Boooo! don't say that!! :tongue: I bought this for S$720 while the RAZR is S$50-400 and N76 Looks way more Lux than even the Moto RAZR D&G Version! >(

okay dah FAREAN .... hehehe aq cuman ngliat dari modelnya aja ..mungkin fiturnya yang beda, dua2nya bisa 3G kah ??

^^ yah emang beda... Nokia lebih User Friendly ;)

N76 di Indonesia 4,6 juta :p

hah? kalo gitu murahan di Sg dong! Rp.4.2 Jt mungkin udah 3.8 Jtaan tapi kembali ke hati2nya beli hp di Sg. seperti apa yg gw posting di Do you Know thread....

^^ yah emang beda... Nokia lebih User Friendly ;)





Nokia marketing strategy is so good.. It could attract many loyal customers especially INDONESIAN :D

Nokia bahkan berhasil membuatku kesusahan ketika bertukar k merek lain :D ...Congrats NOKIA... hebatnya ketika bertukar dari model NOKIA yang satu k yang lain, aq tidak mengalami kesusahan yang terlalu :D

Kalo dari segi UI.. Nokia memang salah satu nya yg selalu konsisten dan put a lot of attention ke UI nya. Skrg motorolla udah mending.. dulu wah parah banget.. Dijamin harus baca buku manualnya baru bisa pake.

lol.. you guys seems Nokia-ish.. while im more Sony Ericsson-ish.. dunno why.. lol..

(gak suka price tagnya nokia :p.. muahal)

Sony Erricson ... I dun really like it when I have to type an SMS :D .... kinda slow-response :D