View Full Version : Oh Sweet Mother of.... Orlando City Place!
redstar25 May 30th, 2005, 03:47 PM thanks goes out to orlandoskyscrapers.com for the info!
http://orlandoskyscrapers.com/sitebuilder/images/OrlandoCityPlace_1_-465x437.jpg
Details:
Located at SW
Intersection of Colonial
Drive and I-4.
3 New Towers and
redevelopment/expansion
of 14 Story Holiday Inn
Hotel.
Office Tower is closest to
Colonial and Residential
Towers are taller in rear.
1,500 Residential Units
100,000 sq ft Office
70,000 sq ft Retail
BBARCH Architects
loureed May 30th, 2005, 04:13 PM nice. Orlando is clearly more forward thinking than Tampa.
Hisma May 30th, 2005, 04:51 PM yea, this is really sweet
it's just too much in the preliminaries for me to get excited. No financial backing, no official announcement... and too large for me to think it's definately going to happen.
Still, I'm gonna cross my fingers cuz this would do WONDERS for parramore, and add to the density that's forming on the other side of I-4.
Dale May 30th, 2005, 06:01 PM Could this be part of Mayor Buddy's plan to finance the reno of the arena ?
Jasonhouse May 30th, 2005, 07:49 PM nice. Orlando is clearly more forward thinking than Tampa.
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loureed May 30th, 2005, 07:56 PM sorry, I rag on Tampa every chance I get.
Lakelander May 31st, 2005, 04:53 AM It looks like a nice project, but I'm skeptical that the project, will be built, like its shown in the model.
SDK4 May 31st, 2005, 06:23 AM Its the future of Florida, as valuable land along the interstates is sold off, densities must go up.
Hisma May 31st, 2005, 07:14 PM hmm according to an insider over at UP, this project is "definately getting built". Apparently it's too early to release details tho... I'm certainly curious as to what's driving this. I would assume it's tied into Dyer's arena area development plan.
Whatever it is, I hope it's priced for the middle class. If it's luxury condo's going up in that part of town, I can already bet it'd be dead in the water.
jzquince69 May 31st, 2005, 10:26 PM agreed, Hisma. I'll believe it when I see it. also, on a similar note. I heard from a prominent developer in O-town last month that Tradition Towers lost its financing. Whether its true or not remains to be seen.
redstar25 June 1st, 2005, 04:09 AM Ive herd nothing of the sort. In fact I have herd the are more or less "sold out".
Jasonhouse June 1st, 2005, 04:40 AM ^heard from who?
People need to quantify thier sources, otherwise it's just a rumor.
jzquince69 June 3rd, 2005, 06:04 AM I don't think he wanted his name posted on an international forum...
He could be right. look at the 55W delays and the cancelled deposits. They should have broke ground in '03. If Tradition is sold out, where's the sales center at? I haven't read any articles reflecting that. Hey, I hope its sold out and gets built.
Dale June 3rd, 2005, 05:44 PM jz -
I don't know that I'd ascribe much creedance to rumors floated by competing developers.
jzquince69 June 4th, 2005, 04:37 PM Dale, I agree. That's the last I'll speak of it. It just reminded me of when Rosen scoffed at the prospect of that Carlson 3,000 room hotel going up on Westwood and their ability to get financing. He knew then they wouldn't. I figured this might be a similar situation. BTW, I hope TT goes thru.
SDK4 June 5th, 2005, 04:51 AM Maybe Orlando's hotel market is becoming too saturated with new buildings. Even with a resurgent tourism industry, I have a feeling supply might be outpacing demand.
jzquince69 June 5th, 2005, 03:56 PM Could be. but the effects of 9/11 hurt new hotel projects moreso from the financing aspect b/c occupancy rates fell to 70% or so compared to Vegas which held at 90%+ during that time. amazing.
Banks said- forget it- regarding new projects. look at Peabody. Only the large companies like Rosen who've got local clout and could probably self-finance to a degree are moving forward now (Shingle creek). and then theres the chicken and egg debacle over the OCCC and hotels across the street and the convention booking falacy-- some shows wont come 'cause there aren't enough rooms within a walking distance...
There are some new developments nearby combining hotel/condos and timeshares/retail which could spurn new developments. That area is changing.
drjnieto June 23rd, 2007, 12:15 AM Orlando City place is amazing, when does construction begin?:cheers:
drjnieto July 22nd, 2007, 12:54 AM Filled for Chapter 11 bankrupcy, but rumors if the arena is built the City place will become a reality in the future.
DrT July 23rd, 2007, 06:23 PM Filled for Chapter 11 bankrupcy, but rumors if the arena is built the City place will become a reality in the future.
By the same bankrupt developer or by another developer that has bought the property?
jzquince69 July 23rd, 2007, 06:29 PM ^^
exactly. chaulk this one up as T.O.A.S.T. I think they made their plan before talk of moving the O-Rena entered the picture. Even Marriott abondoned their plan to build a second tower and sell the old one to UCF-- why? B/C the O-Rena was moving to Church & Hughey, several block away versus right across the street.
Here's what I think. Wait until CFRAIL is up and running and people start using the FH, Lynx, CSS, and ORMC stations. That's when new proposals will pop up that will have a greater staying power b/c they will partly cater to transit users. That's what I can't wait to see. This other stuff is just appetizers until the main course... I hope.
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