View Full Version : All Durban Apartment Developments


dysan1
May 31st, 2005, 09:52 PM
I thought that this thread was needed, so as to keep all the apartments u/c listed in a place that catered purely for them. It also makes accessing info on them far easier. So if its possible can we please leave this thread for the renderings and pictures of announced apartment developments only.

Thanx :)

dysan1
May 31st, 2005, 10:56 PM
This will hopefully be a comprehensive list of all apartment development underway in Durban. I will try to keep it constantly up to date.

Info will be broken into regions and will list building name, height in floors, number of apartments and completion date.


DURBAN POINT


The Quays 10F 46 Nov 2005 u/c
Quayside 10F 75 Mar 2006
The Sails 8F 170 Dec 2006 u/c
Harbour View Heights 7F 55 Oct 2006 u/c
Point Bay 5F 67 Mar 2006
The Palms 6F 69 Mar 2006 u/c
Dolphin Whispers 10F 56 Oct 2006 u/c
Point Bastille 5F 32 Dec 2005 u/c
One Point One Seven 8F 32 Mar 2006
Marine Point 6F 25 Apr 2006
Heritage Square 4F 42 Feb 2006 u/c
San Raphael 35F 47 Aug 2006
The Spinnaker 26F 81 Oct 2006 u/c
Shaka’s Gate 14F 220 Mar 2007
SkyHOMES 17F 14 Dec 2006
88 on Point 4F 12 Oct 2006 u/c
The Stevedore 6F
The Banton 7F 42
East Point 4F 17 Nov 2006


BEACHFRONT

Moyeni 27F 95 Nov 2006
Suncoast Hotel 16F July 2006

CBD

"ICC Hotel 1" 20F
"ICC Hotel 2" 16F
"VIC Embankment Building" 40F
ABSA Building (renovation and addition of 2F) 18F


BEREA


100 on Ridge 8F 16 July 2006
251 Ridge Road 4F 8 June 2006
Three Five Five Musgrave 13F 38 July 2005 u/c
Morningside Ridge 7F 50 Feb 2006 u/c
Antrea 6F 14 Dec 2005 u/c
Sanzala 7F 95 Mar 2006 u/c
222 Cato 6F 24 Nov 2005 u/c
The Place on Essenwood 4F 5 Sept 2005


UMHLANGA

New Town Centre

Palm Gate 6F 207 July 2005 u/c
Auroras 8F 88 Dec 2005 u/c
Horizon View 8F 86 Complete
Umhlanga Towers 8F 86 Dec 2005 u/c
The Zone 6F 66 Dec 2005 u/c
7 on Millenium 6F 50 Dec 2005 u/c
East Coastal 6F 40 Apr 2006 u/c
The Lighthouse 6F 35 Mar 2006 u/c
7 on Palm Boulevard 7F 39 Dec 2005 u/c
The Sentinal 6F 33 Apr 2006 u/c
The Meridian 7F 25 Dec 2005 u/c
Grand Central 7F 25 Dec 2005 u/c
Peninsula 6F 48 Jun 2006
The Block 7F 130 Jul 2006
WEST 6F 33 May 2006
Royal Palm 6F 55 Jun 2006
African Palms 8F 24 Aug 2006
The Regent 7F 34 Dec 2006
Cyrstal Rock 5F 40 May 2006 u/c
Millenium 6F 30 Aug 2006
Platinum Towers 6F 30 Jul 2006


Village

Lighthouse Mall Villas 10F 50 Jun 2005
Pearl Reef 12F 22 Dec 2005 u/c
Pearl Tides 5F 36 Dec 2006
Pearl Breeze 25F 96 Dec 2006
Pearl Dawn 29F 120 Dec 2007
Pearl Sky 39F 177 Dec 2008
Santino 5F 16 Jul 2006 u/c
Tidal 6F 16 July 2006
San Antonella 3F 25 Dec 2005



Ilala Ridge

The Bay 6F 30 Mar 2006 u/c
The Grand Floridian 7F 50 Dec 2005 u/c
La Palma Terraces 5F 140 Oct 2005 u/c
Ilala Palms 5F 25 May 2006

SA BOY
June 1st, 2005, 07:08 AM
Mike
do you have renders of these ,There are some I dont have on emporis and need to add renders and some details and companies .
Any help would be good, remebrer the cut off height is 12F or 35m.
Cheers

SA BOY
June 1st, 2005, 07:09 AM
what about Monyeni in the city? are there any other proposed along the beachfront or esplinade?

dysan1
June 1st, 2005, 10:02 AM
No others formally proposed as of yet! Good thing u mentioned moyeni, i clean forgot about it! Saw some new pics of it in the press over the wknd and it looks like they have improved its facade...and it looks GREAT!

The developments near suncoast have not been announced yet, all i know is that the middle east developers now own the sites. but nothing has happened

SA BOY
June 1st, 2005, 01:52 PM
any chance of seeing the new monyeni renders? also please post renders if you can af some of the lesser know ones like sharkas gate and skyhomes.
Shoudl we not add tho this the other proposals we know of such as the ICC hotel and the 40F mixed use on the Vic embankment?

datilguy
June 2nd, 2005, 11:05 PM
Hmmmmmm....yes Im interested in Shakas gate as well....I heard about it then I havent seen anything as of yet. Have they even broken ground yet? Also I know some rendering of these (such as Harbour View Heights) are already posted. Do you think we should post them here too? Or just the ones which renderings have not been previously posted?

dysan1
June 3rd, 2005, 10:04 AM
i'm gonna put up all the pics and stuff in here, so that if you want to find out about a building its in here, instead of having to trawl the durban thread which is full of all sorts of stuff

SA BOY
June 4th, 2005, 12:13 PM
good idea chief

clive330
June 6th, 2005, 02:28 AM
Looks like early 2007 will be a good time to visit and see the completion of this boom!

Maybe we should pencil in a Durban meet in Feb or March 2007. We can hire a bus and drive around with dysan1 in charge! ;)

SA BOY
June 6th, 2005, 06:41 AM
have to stop at Jonnys for a bunny!!!!

dysan1
June 6th, 2005, 09:38 PM
The Palms - Point Waterfront

6F, 69 Apartments



THE PALMS is a luxury high quality apartment complex situated in close proximity to u’Shaka Marine World on the canal system which forms the central spine of the project. Sixty nine apartments and penthouses will be developed on the canal over six levels on this prime site. A central landscaped courtyard will accommodate a pool while the ground level will be home to trendy canal side restaurants, boutiques and offices. The apartments will each feature extensive balconies and luxury finishes within a well defined spatial arrangement. Unique penthouses are also on offer which will offer unparalleled views and a luxury lifestyle experience.

http://www.durbanpalm.co.za/images/location.jpg

http://www.durbanpalm.co.za/images/site_plan.jpg

Canal Elevation
http://www.durbanpalm.co.za/images/elevation_a.jpg

http://www.durbanpalm.co.za/images/visual1.jpg

http://www.durbanpalm.co.za/images/visual2.jpg

http://www.durbanpalm.co.za/images/visual3.jpg

http://www.durbanpalm.co.za/images/visual4.jpg

dysan1
June 6th, 2005, 09:56 PM
Three Five Five on Musgrave - Berea

13F, 38 Apartments, Complete in July (will take pics...looks awesome in real life)

This development comprises 30 apartments over 13F. Starting Prices were R1,5m - R4m. However this was when the project was launched in late 2003. The building is nearing completion (march) and present resales are R2,5m - R6m, so quite a good return in a year.

The building is on prime musgrave road and has city, sea and harbour views.

http://listing.pamgolding.co.za/images/properties/0080320_M.jpg

dysan1
June 6th, 2005, 10:02 PM
Sanzala - Morningside

7F, 95 Apartments

http://myalbum.mweb.co.za/uploaded/ad1840da-9d26-4d70-9acf-72db6ee3e76d/raw/47c4b2a38b6b4676bcdb1fa14c1043e1_2004-12-29_032.jpg

dysan1
June 6th, 2005, 10:05 PM
Morningside Ridge - Morningside

7F, 50 Apartments

http://listing.pamgolding.co.za/images/properties/0078883_M.jpg

dysan1
June 6th, 2005, 10:11 PM
The Grand Floridian - Ilala Ridge, La Lucia

7F, 50 Apartments (has reached roof level and looks massive from umhlanga rocks drive)

The Grand Floridian is uniquely designed to offer the security and convenience of apartment living offering luxurious and upmarket finishes, functions room, indoor heated pool, steam room and gym area. Phase II consists of 25 luxury apartments with spectacular sea views situated at the pinnacle of the new Ilala Ridge. Prospective buyers have a choice of 3 and 4 bedroom units and a limited number of duplex style penthouses. Finishes and fittings are of the highest quality comprising of granite/marble work surfaces, ducted airconditioning and DSTV to name but a few. 5% deposit secures.

Prices range from R2,1 - R5million


http://listing.pamgolding.co.za/images/properties/0081658_M.jpg

http://listing.pamgolding.co.za/images/properties/0081658_G006.jpg

http://listing.pamgolding.co.za/images/properties/0081658_G007.jpg

dysan1
June 6th, 2005, 10:21 PM
The Pearls of Umhlanga, Umhlanga

Pearl Reef 12F 22 Dec 2005 u/c
Pearl Tides 5F 36 Dec 2006
Pearl Breeze 25F 96 Dec 2006
Pearl Dawn 29F 120 Dec 2007
Pearl Sky 39F 177 Dec 2008


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/hsark2/pearls5.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/hsark2/pearls1.jpg

http://www.gleeds.co.uk/images/project/Perls_of_Umhlanga.jpg

SA BOY
June 7th, 2005, 07:26 AM
Sanzala - Morningside

7F, 95 Apartments

http://myalbum.mweb.co.za/uploaded/ad1840da-9d26-4d70-9acf-72db6ee3e76d/raw/47c4b2a38b6b4676bcdb1fa14c1043e1_2004-12-29_032.jpg
I bought one of these when I was back in Jan. Good deal too with the developer trying to buy the unit back from me (at a premium of course)

SA BOY
June 7th, 2005, 07:27 AM
keep em comming Mike, great thread

datilguy
June 7th, 2005, 05:46 PM
^^^^^^^^
I agree :)

Sanzala looks like a massive development! And I must say, I'm quite impressed with the Palms. Wish I could see the plans for it. Hehe, it actually looks almost exactly like the REI superstore here in ABQ. Also, have they released how big Pearl Walk will be? It obviously cant be TOO big cause of the proximity to Gateway?

SA BOY
June 8th, 2005, 08:04 AM
I think they are trying to push the big tower close to 200m with the spire

dysan1
June 8th, 2005, 11:49 AM
of course they are!

Regards pearl walk...its going to be a collection of top of the range boutiques, restaurants and bars. Think top international fashion labels, and 5 star restaurants. it wont be too big, but will lead down to the beach. prob in the region of 10000m2.

news also that the pearls spire maybe close on 50m on its own

hsark
June 8th, 2005, 04:21 PM
you guys think the tower is going to chanlenge for africa's tallest tower beacause with the spire the might only be a few meters shot of the carlton centre ......but i dont really know how the newbys will behave though , i personally wish it could be taller than the carlton as it would start some hectic competition in south africa which was last seen in the 70's 80's and early 90's era

SA BOY
June 9th, 2005, 07:43 AM
NIMBYS will fight it tooth and nail even if its only 150m. I think the point should have a very tall tower. a symbol of the gateway to the city and africa.
even though I support tower development , it shouldent be at the inocence of a city of place. Think of Malmo with groundscrapers and then the 54floor turning torso. Totally out of contect and too dominant.
same goes for the gold coast with Q1 , eveny thing as at 40f max and then they build a 85f monster. Although now there is some bulking up with more 50f plus towers.
Umhlungsa should graduate towards a 200m tower by first bulding 30plus towers at 120m and moving up from there. Im afraid that too big a jump in scale will effect Umhlunga in the long term as eveery one will alwys refference the tower as a mistake which will always kill off further big plans.

clive330
June 9th, 2005, 07:59 AM
I agree. Seeing the 91 storey Eureka top out here in Melbourne, the real effect has been simply to shrink the rest of the skyline when seen from a distance as it is miles taller than anything else.

Its a pity as Melbourne's impressive clusters of dozens of 40-55 storey buildings now look like 25-30 and 30 storeys look like 15 storeys!

dysan1
June 9th, 2005, 10:01 AM
the pearl sky still has to go thru a rigorous approval phase, and if the community has anything to do with it, it wont be built at all. They are taking the developers to the high court to have it stopped

hsark
June 9th, 2005, 01:51 PM
i guess the site where pearl sky is being built is..... ya i hope it'll still will be built but as for one skyscraper towering over others i agree it should be done in any area with other biggies , thats why i think the point would be great for 36+ towers you could have one massive skyscraper at the point sort of like the chicago skyline with sears building it looks very impressive

dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 04:17 PM
Point Bastille

(personally i love this one! the shops they have planned are all top draw and it will also have a moyo)


A development consortium initiated by Zimbali resident Horst Keil is now the proud owner of the old and historic Durban Point Prison.

“I had been monitoring progress at Durban’s Point carefully and when the Point Development Company released land adjoining the R750 million uShaka Marine World, I formed a consortium and bid for the old historic building. We also have a 22% black empowerment component which we feel is important” assures Keil

The old and now derelict building, which overlooks the recently build canal at the much publicised Point development, is made up of four double storey barracks joined by a large prison wall.

“I believe the prison was built in 1932 to house African prisoners who served out their sentences as dockworkers. Turning the old listed building into an attractive apartment block with shops and restaurants while respecting its historic value was an enormous challenge. The big and chunky walls of the old building will, however, leave no doubt in anyone’s mind that the building was once a prison!”

“Our architect Richard Cooper has done wonders! He has designed our Point Bastille as a four-storey, mixed- use building by pairing the barracks, doubling their height and closing them in. This creates interior courtyards with ground floor shops and parking in twin complexes.” adds Keil.

The three floors above the shops and garaging will accommodate 32 sectional title units, including eight super luxury four bedroom double volume loft/penthouse apartments. The penthouses will each have double lock up garages and owners of the remaining 3 bedroom units will each be assigned secure under cover parking bays.

Half of the apartments have already been sold pre-launch . Phase two is presently being launched.

“Lock your investment into the Point Bastille!” enthuses Keil. “The Point is insulated to an extent, because even if the property prices consolidate in the future, the area should not only easily retain its value but escalate. There are, after all, only a finite number of properties available in this unique waterfront development. The intended expansion to the Point site, around a small-craft harbour at Vetch’s Pier will further enhance the excitement and I am confident will result in the Point rivalling if not outsrtipping Umhlanga prices which now demand in the region of R19 000 per m2..

Construction has commenced late last year and the first proud owners should be able to take up occupation by October this year.


http://www.durbanpoint.co.za/}common/}images/developments/pointbastille.jpg

dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 04:34 PM
The Peninsula - Umhlanga Ridge

6F, From R980k to R2.8m

Groudfloor retail, 8 stores


http://myalbum.mweb.co.za/uploaded/ad1840da-9d26-4d70-9acf-72db6ee3e76d/raw/801acea059164703a40b3d5c5639e455_peninsula.jpg

dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 04:40 PM
251 Ridge Road - Berea


8 Apartments
4 Floors

All apartments measure 224m2 excluding parking area’s
All apartments include a 43m2 terrace

Prices range from R2,1m to R2,95m

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/422db9ffzdce3552b/8b13/__sr_/195b.jpg?ph1sbQCBc35ApQqH

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/422db9ffzdce3552b/8b13/__sr_/2571.jpg?ph1sbQCBqM7EWpoh

dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 04:53 PM
Dockpoint - Point Waterfront

http://www.dockpoint.co.za/thumbs/d_point.jpg


With their simple beauty and gracious sense of scale and proportion, the old Port Supervisors’ houses in Durban’s historic Point precinct represent the very best of our lovely city has to offer. Originally built in 1906, these magnificent Edwardian row houses have been restored by a visionary developer for investors and homeowners with a respect for our heritage and an appreciation of craftsmanship, both old and new. Set amid a network of canals, cooled by the sea breezes of Durban’s year-round summer, they offer a luxurious coastal lifestyle and an urban retreat unique in South Africa.

The gracious homes of Dock Point are all listed buildings contributing their particular beauty to the unique character of the area. To preserve and enhance their external structure, they have been restored using the finest contemporary and traditional materials. Lightweight corrugated aluminium roofs will protect the houses from the elements for years to come, the distinctive wrought iron broekie lace has been preserved, and balustrades have been crafted out of fine-grained Balau hardwood, while the veranda floors are covered with Winkleman acoustic patio tiles imported from France.


The security of family and property is an understandable concern of any homeowner – and at the Dock Point, we will provide you with the very best security currently available. From the time you arrive in your private double-space underground parking to the time you lock up and go, you will rest secure in the knowledge that you are protected a discrete next-generation security system which provides an efficient combination of highly trained and dedicated personnel with the latest technology. This includes strategically placed, fully rotational surveillance cameras manned by vigilant control-centre staff, 24 hour roving patrols and access control, a fully fitted intercom and alarm system and a response force. – All dedicated to your physical safety and total peace of mind.


Inside the homes have been thoroughly modernised for the ease and comfort of luxury waterfront living. Throughout the finishes and fittings are of the highest imported quality and customised according to owners’ specifications. The air is kept at a steady temperature by digitally controlled ducted air-conditioning for Unico Central Air USA. And at the heart of the home, the designer kitchen is fitted entirely with Gaggenau appliances from Germany, including a double-door fridge/freezer with water and ice dispenser, a four-ring gas hob, two ceramic plates, two under-counter ovens, a griller and a microwave


With its multitude of new shops, restaurants to suit every taste and occasion and waterside cocktail bars, the Point Precinct is enjoying an urban renaissance. Uniquely in South Africa, this thriving area offers the very best of modern city living in a magnificent coastal setting. A short walk from the calm waters of the beautiful UShaka beach, the Dock Point lifestyle has everything the ocean lover could desire – kite-boarding, wave-skiing, spectacular diving at nearby Limestone Reef at Vetchies Pier, a choice of luxury marinas, or simply the chance to relax on an internationally rated Blue-Flag beach. If you should need to be elsewhere, Dock Point is situated in convenient proximity to all major transport routes in and out of the city – although it seems unlikely that you will ever want to leave.


With the outstanding success of UShaka Marine World and the public/private partnership driving growth and infrastructure in the Point precinct, now is the time to invest in the area. Future developments include the development of a new luxury small-craft Marina. Secure a home at Dock Point and with it you will achieve the potential for exceptional return on your investment. There has never been a better time to own a precious piece of Durban’s past – and a significant stake in the city’s future.


http://www.dockpoint.co.za/dockpoint/images/dev_info.jpg

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In your magnificently restored Edwardian home at Dock Point, you will experience a combination of the tranquil coastal setting with the dynamism and pace of contemporary city living – a contemporary lifestyle in perfect balance between the gracious past and the exciting future.

Prices From R3 650 million including Transfer
10% Deposit
Canal Through Development
Unico Ducted Air-con System
Sizes: 3 Bed, 2 Bathrooms with landscaped Garden & Private Pool
Parking: 2x Secure Underground parking places per unit.
Kitchen: Fully Fitted by Exotic Kitchens and Fitted Gaggenau Appliances



http://www.dockpoint.co.za/dockpoint/images/vis4.jpg

http://www.dockpoint.co.za/dockpoint/images/aerial.jpg

http://www.dockpoint.co.za/dockpoint/images/door.jpg

dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 04:59 PM
MARINEPOINT - Durban Point

from R995 000 to R2 800 000

http://www.dockpoint.co.za/marine/images/marine_p.jpg


In your beautiful contemporary open-plan apartment in Marine Point, you will live as you truly choose, in a home of luxurious simplicity with limitless opportunities for relaxation and leisure.

http://www.dockpoint.co.za/marine/images/hp9.jpg

CITY & SEA…

At Marine Point in the heart of Durban’s Waterfront you will experience the unique combination of a tranquil coastal lifestyle with the excitement and convenience of the city. Exceptional conditions for water sports or relaxation may be found at one of the blue-flag beaches just a short walk from your apartment, while world-class shopping superb restaurants, cafes and cocktail bars are located close by.

http://www.dockpoint.co.za/marine/images/hp1.jpg

http://www.dockpoint.co.za/marine/images/hp7.jpg

SPACE & STYLE…

Your apartment at Marine Point has been designed to take full advantage of its unique location. Each of the one-bedroom, three bedroom or two bed loft configurations is airy and light with open-plan living spaces and view of the harbour or the sea. An elevated central courtyard with designer pool offers a green haven of peace and privacy to residents. Your apartment is custom fitted and finished to reflect your own unique taste.

http://www.dockpoint.co.za/marine/images/hp4.jpg


AT A GLANCE…
• Next-generation security systems and highly trained personnel
• Quality imported materials and hand crafted finishes
• Custom fitted designer kitchens
• Air-conditioned throughout
• World class shopping, dining and nightlife
• Superb sporting and recreational facilities
• Exceptional investment potential

http://www.dockpoint.co.za/marine/images/v2.jpg

http://www.dockpoint.co.za/marine/images/v3.jpg

http://www.dockpoint.co.za/marine/images/v4.jpg

http://www.dockpoint.co.za/marine/images/v5.jpg

dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 05:30 PM
MILLENIUM - Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre


6F (7F is roof garden and pool), 30 Apartments

From R550K


Situated on the corner of Millennium Drive and Solstice Road and in the heart of the Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre and Gateway precint, this prestigious block offers 30 one and two bedroom apartments and ground floor commercial shops, as well as five floors dedicated to corporate offices. An attractive piazza with a stunning water feature provides a natural flow from the building to the main roads, the undercover parking and Gateway. The pool and entertainment deck on the top floor will enhance a care-free and modern lifestyle. This continental style building will feature up market finishes, glass panelling, porcelain tiles, granite, cherry wood/ beech foil wrap kitchens and Bosch appliances.

http://www.myimagehub.com/userfiles/dysan1/millenium.JPG

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http://www.myimagehub.com/userfiles/dysan1/millenium2.JPG

datilguy
June 12th, 2005, 06:17 PM
Point Bastille sounds amazing!!! And with some of those buildings......Umhlanga is damn near creating its own style.

dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 06:35 PM
Point Bay - Durban Point

6F


http://www.pointbay.co.za/images/pbay.jpg

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http://www.pointbay.co.za/images/loft_view.jpg

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http://www.pointbay.co.za/images/canal_view.jpg

dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 06:41 PM
The Quays on Timeball - Durban Point

10F

http://www.durbanpoint.co.za/}common/}images/developments/quayslogo.gif

http://www.keyprojects.co.za/assets/quays/TheQuays28Oct04.jpg

http://www.keyprojects.co.za/assets/quays/quays1.big.jpg

dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 06:46 PM
Quayside - Durban Point

10F


http://www.durbanpoint.co.za/}common/}images/developments/quaysidelogo.gif

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http://www.keyprojects.co.za/assets/quayside/Quayside%20002.pop.jpg

dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 06:49 PM
One Point One Seven - Durban Point

6F

http://www.durbanpoint.co.za/%7Dcommon/%7Dimages/developments/onepointoneseven.jpg

dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 06:53 PM
The Zone - Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre

6F (7F is roof garden and pool)


http://www.inframax.co.za/ProductImages/131_lstlrg_0_0_P.jpg

dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 06:57 PM
Sentinel - Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre



http://www.inframax.co.za/ProductImages/138_lstlrg_0_0_P.jpg

dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 07:01 PM
The Lighthouse - Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre


http://www.inframax.co.za/ProductImages/139_lstlrg_0_0_P.jpg

datilguy
June 12th, 2005, 07:08 PM
I much like the Quays. It seems HUGE! So are there any office developments going up in the Point too or no?

dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 07:10 PM
Heritage Square - Durban Point


Heritage Square is situated at the entrance to Durban harbour with unimpeded views across the bay. The site is on the corner of Point Road and Browns Road, the main access to the Point Waterfront, and occupies a block 106 m x 48 m (the approximate size of a rugby field). The block of seven utilitarian Victorian warehouses, constructed from 1895 to 1901 includes three “A” category listed warehouses, (52/54, 56/58 and 60 Point Road) and three buildings (36, 42/44 Point Road) surveyed for their architectural merit but not listed.

The only building not noted for its architectural merit has been altered previously to have a contemporary facade; this will be remodeled.

Dominant features on both the Point Road elevation and the Albert Road elevation will be the retention of and restoration of two towers.

The ground floor of the development will be retained as retail but the central interior area will be converted to a secure parking area.

The canal which links back to the Point canal system will terminate in the food court with a double volume connecting the area to the level above.

A separate vehicular entrance from the unnamed lane provides a ramped access to the upper levels, which will be used for residential accommodation. The first floor will consist of 24 simplex units each with their own parking at their front doors. As this
level has been converted from the warehouses to units, some of units will have balconies and decks while others will have the base of towers.

The second and third floors will be 17 completely new duplex units set back from the historic facades allowing the units all to have generous decks.

In contrast to the rich modulation of the Victorian facades, the duplexes will be constructed of steel frames and glass, the roofs emulating the sails of passing yachts.

RETAIL
Part of the retail area will be large open spaces, characterised by the original oregon posts and beams. This area will be unique in that it is hoped that the canal from the Point canal system will terminate in this space. Being perfectly suitable for restaurants with high ceilings and double volumes, this space can also open out to the pavements on Point Road, The Boulevard (linking through to the Point Development area) and Albert Road.

The remaining retail areas although housed in historic buildings, can be modified to suit retailers' requirements.

RESIDENTIAL
First floor living at Heritage Square will offer owners contemporary interiors housed in historic buildings. Many units will have balconies, some even cast iron verandas while the units on Point Road will have views across to the bay. The roof level is being reconstructed to allow the construction of duplex units with the facades in steel and glass, constrasting with the rich modulation and detailing of the historic buildings.

The duplexes will be set back five metres from the historic facades to form decks with views towards the bay and the Bluff. All owners will be able to park at their front doors (two parking bays per unit).


http://www.heritagesquare.co.za/images/mid.jpg

Point Road Elevation
http://www.heritagesquare.co.za/images/point_elev.jpg

Albert Road Elevation
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dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 07:19 PM
The Sails - Durban Point


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dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 10:00 PM
The Spinnaker - Durban Point


27F


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dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 10:08 PM
San Raphael - Durban Point

34F


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dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 10:14 PM
100 on Ridge - Berea (Musgrave)


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dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 10:25 PM
7 on Palm Boulevard - Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre

Groundfloor double volume retail

2nd and 3rd Floor Office Space


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dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 10:30 PM
The Auroras - Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre


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dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 10:37 PM
WEST - Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre


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dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 10:44 PM
Royal Palm - Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre

Will be a suite hotel and residential building, with 2 floors of commercial space


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Royal Palm and WEST
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dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 10:50 PM
Grand Central and The Meridian - Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre


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dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 10:57 PM
7 on Millenium - Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre

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dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 11:05 PM
Umhlanga Ridge Towers - Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre


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dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 11:32 PM
Dolphin Whispers - Durban Point

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Dolphin Whispers is one of the first few luxury apartments to be located at the Durban Point Waterfront, which will define a new lifestyle for people with the interest of the city at heart. The development will provide a unique opportunity for the introduction of up market residential apartments, which will transform the area into a place for working and living.

Nestled near the harbour mouth of Durban – Dolphin Whispers will provide the epitome of harbour and water-canal experience. It will be a stone’s throw away from Timeball Square, which will offer an amphitheatre and will also be within walking distance the Durban’s new uShaka Marine World – Africa’s largest Marine Theme Park.

The building is designed by Stephan Antoni Omelsdahl Truen Architects & Urban Architects – both award winning architectural practises, offering a comfortable, secure and superior lifestyle.

This development comprises 49 luxury apartments that have a mixture of 2 and 3 bedroom simplexes, 2 and 3 bedroom duplexes and 3 bedroom duplex penthouses. The floor plans are generally uncluttered with simple clean lines to take advantage of the extensive natural light and views.

With terraces on either façade of the apartments, the north terraces overlook the courtyard whereas the south terraces overhang over the water canal with views of the harbour and Timeball square, all offering the ultimate indoor and outdoor living.

Penthouses occupy the prime position, the top two floors and were designed to opitimise the year round sub-tropical climate of Durban with an abundance of outdoor living. Two of the penthouses have exclusive roof gardens.





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dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 11:39 PM
Harbour View Heights - Durban Point

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dysan1
June 12th, 2005, 11:42 PM
I much like the Quays. It seems HUGE! So are there any office developments going up in the Point too or no?

Some of the buildings include an office component. The following have office space:

The Sails
One Point One Seven
The Stevedores
San Raphael
The Spinnaker
Shaka's Gate
Heritage Square

All others also include retail space on the groundfloor :)

datilguy
June 12th, 2005, 11:57 PM
Mmmmm.............well it would be nice to work in the San Raphael. Even at street level it looks very inviting, I think the architects did a good job. The Spinnaker looks so uninspired. So then the office space in the San Raphael is most likely on the bottom 3-4 floors? Also, I wonder what is occupying all this retail space. Cafes, specialty shops, etc.?

SA BOY
June 13th, 2005, 07:38 AM
mixed use and new urbanisim are deffinatly the buzz words of the new mellenium with regard to design. It works and is a great way to have permanet population in buildings or precincts and adds to the cultural mix as well as stoping twilight flight (people running for the burbs after work).
Cities need inner city residential and thext progression of that is to combine the commercial and residentail ellements to form a harmogenous population.

SA BOY
June 13th, 2005, 07:39 AM
dysan
Great immages, good to see some new style of archietcture in Durban instead of the tired old GAP architects minimalist white buiuldings so prevlent in the late 90s

dysan1
June 13th, 2005, 11:17 PM
there are 6-7F of office space in San Raphael on the ushaka side of the building. the point road side of the building has 6F of hotel space, operator to be announced soon

yeah i particularily like the designs of the umhlanga buildings, the whole precinct is developing well!!! took some pics today....will post them 2m...you'll be surprised at how much it has changed since my last post of the area's development back in march!

all buildings at the point and in umhlanga ridge HAVE to be mixed use. Some have taken this to the extreme by including residential, commercial, retail and hotel space in one building. lets see how it pans out :)

dysan1
June 13th, 2005, 11:19 PM
and i LOVE the glass effects at street level in the Sails!!!!! look at the pics and see what i mean!!!

SA BOY
June 14th, 2005, 07:42 AM
oohhhh new pics, cant wait

dysan1
June 18th, 2005, 09:32 PM
Looks like early 2007 will be a good time to visit and see the completion of this boom!

Maybe we should pencil in a Durban meet in Feb or March 2007. We can hire a bus and drive around with dysan1 in charge! ;)

Of course we can do that :) But by then another phase is this development cycle may be starting in other areas...Vic Embankment, ICC precinct and around Sibaya, and prob the next phase of the Umhlanga New Town Centre...

Great times to come :)

dysan1
June 19th, 2005, 03:42 PM
San Antonella - Umhlanga Rocks

3F
25 Apartments
R1,95m - R4,5m


The KwaZulu Natal Coast has become a mecca for those who subscribe to its comfortable and relaxed way of life. Umhlanga Rocks, in particular, is one of the most popular coastal village destinations for both holiday seekers and permanent residents alike. This particular complex consists of 25 individual apartments spread over 3 terraced floors. All apartments will be fitted with ducted airconditioning, granite kitchen tops and upmarket floor tile and bathroom finishes. Exclusive plunge pools, built in gas braais and Jacuzzis are optional extras. Priced between R1 995 000 and R4 500 000.

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dysan1
June 19th, 2005, 03:48 PM
Platinum Towers - Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre

30 Apartments
6F (7F is roof garden)
From R630k to R1,1m
1,2 bed.


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dysan1
June 21st, 2005, 06:25 PM
PalmGate - Umhlanga Ridge New Towm Centre

207 Apartments
7F
Complete in July 2005


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SA BOY
June 22nd, 2005, 07:44 AM
palm gate looks great, a bit melrose place with the central courtyard and pool (one would assume)

SA BOY
June 22nd, 2005, 07:49 AM
more more more

dysan1
June 25th, 2005, 05:18 PM
Crystal Rock - Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre

5F
40 Units

Groundfloor Supermarket, 1st Floor Offices, 3F Apartments.
From R750k to R1,8m

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dysan1
June 25th, 2005, 05:30 PM
East Coast Boulevard - Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre

6F
50 Apartments

Groundfloor Retail
1st/2nd Floor Office
3-6F Apartments

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SA BOY
June 26th, 2005, 08:25 AM
yuk, these must be the bottom of the barrel.pity our architects are still stuck in the 80s. It seems they are desiging the same crap they did when the building ressession hit 20 years ago.

dysan1
June 26th, 2005, 11:33 AM
i actually like them!!!! More so East Coast Boulevard than Crystal Rock, but i dont see your complaint. Maybe you are too used to all the glass they use in Dubai by now..i dunno

SA BOY
June 26th, 2005, 02:16 PM
Mike Those last two are cheap 80s inspired architecture, no soul or link to a modern Durban. Royal Palm is good regal architecture and these two look like the belong in margate

SYDNEY
June 26th, 2005, 06:33 PM
^^^ You are so right, I like Palm Gate - more suited for Durban.

dysan1
June 26th, 2005, 11:26 PM
yes i agree that they are not up to the level of palm gate, millennium, royal palm.... and yes i wld say that crystal rock is prob the worst of the buildings for the back new town centre area, but i really dont find it terrible. It may not be cutting edge, but not everything has to be...i find that too much of the same look spoils an area, and different combinations add to the character. U may not agree, but i feel that these 2 buildings fill a role and i bet once they are built and i show u pics of them that u cld change ur mind.

What do you think of Millennium and Platinum towers?

SA BOY
June 27th, 2005, 08:11 AM
Millenium and Platinum are good space fillers. I may be critical but my job involves creating concepts and developing property on a large scale. To me Moorlands had an oppotunity to create some good design guidlines ( as they did with edgecome office estate) but may have let this slip.
Some of these blocks do not "add value" to the enviroment they are supporting and look bad from a design and longterm ageing point of view. Also with so much white paint they will continue to age if good maintenace is not undertaken and a building not maintained brings the rest down with it.
A good design is the city lodge (loads of stone and natural products) lots of natural light and well lit. Its a very good design for a low rise medium density setting.
Buildings should not dominate on a low rise enviroment but should seem like they compliment each other both in colour and materials.
I just hate a red painted building next to a building with set backs, stone and timber stormshutters or sun screen and some sympathy for the area.

thryve
June 27th, 2005, 02:07 PM
"mixed use and new urbanisim are deffinatly the buzz words of the new mellenium with regard to design. It works and is a great way to have permanet population in buildings or precincts and adds to the cultural mix as well as stoping twilight flight"

Couldn't a gree more, being a die-hard new urbanist. Canada sucks at implementing new urbanism for the most part, though Vancouver is VERY mixed-use... more so than most cities inthe world I would say. But it looks like South Africa (Cape Town, Durban, AND Johannesburg) is implementing good planning in its downtowns. Good work!

dysan1
June 27th, 2005, 07:24 PM
In due time durban will comprise 2 cities, with 2 fully fledged cbds (in the true sense of cbd...where people actually walk about, unlike the glorified office park that is Sandton...i really wish it was more pedestrian orientated there!!!)

dysan1
June 27th, 2005, 07:28 PM
i do hear what ur saying giles...you have said which buildings u find bad...then which do you find good besides city lodge?

dysan1
June 27th, 2005, 07:31 PM
Oh and i must say that the buildings on palm boulevard are of a FAR better look than those at the back of gateway, but their prices are R16 000m2 while at the back its R10 000m2, maybe the reason for the different standards in design quality?

dysan1
June 27th, 2005, 07:33 PM
Thought i would give an Update of the developments at Umhlanga NTC and at the Point... Both as of 27 June 2005

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SA BOY
June 28th, 2005, 06:26 AM
geez whats with all the gateway expansion?? The plot marked 21 is such a waste, Prime time real estate. Should develop more like century city, Multistory carpark decks (there by reducing the foot print for the same amount of cars) and build over the top with office towers and appartments.
Just a quick question, are the masterplanned parks and recriational areas amongst the new low rise town centre behind gateway. Seems quite dense in a grid pattern and dont see muchg in the way of parkland or even sports facilities(aprt from the park by gateway)
Umhlunga triangle is going to be the best bit of real estate in South africa, amazing views from there.
As for good and bad buildings, Cant remebrs what is what , Ill have to trawl back through the thread, but there is deffinatly some good architecture there. And funny enough the cost perm2 is not really a reflection of bad facade work but more an internals issue. I have seen 'low income' developments in OZ that you would think were the platinium developments

dysan1
June 29th, 2005, 07:24 PM
Shaka's Gate: Residential: Waterfront: Proposed


You've been waiting...well take a look at this!

220 Apartments

12F


THE FACTS:

• The site that we have managed to secure is one to most sought after sites in the new Point Waterfront Precinct.
• It is the positioned on the site of the present uShaka car-park.
• 80% of the apartments will have magnificent ocean views!!
• The only thing between our site and the Indian Ocean, is uShaka itself, the beach and the breakers!!!!!!
• We are to build a modern 12-storey building, which will offer breathtaking panoramic views, from 80% of the apartments, across uShaka to the ocean, Umhlanga, the harbour entrance, the Bluff and a beyond!!
• Our building will consist of 5 levels of parking, above which we will be developing 8 levels of modern luxury apartments.
• The development should offer the following:

o 200 luxury bachelor, 1, 2, & 3 bedroomed apartments
o 16 ultra-luxury 2, 3 & 4 bedroomed ultra-luxury penthouses
o Unparralled uShaka Marineworld and Indian Ocean views
o 800 sq. meters of prime retail space
(400 sq. meters has already been secured)
o 1600 sq. meters of upmarket office space
o wonderful landscaped garden, communal rim-flow pool & recreation area
o Gymnasium and owners clubhouse
o uShaka Marine & Waterworld right on your doorstep
o South Beach literally 2 minute away
o Large retail shopping centre to be built on your doorstep next to uShaka

• 80% of the apartments will offer views over the uShaka Marine themepark to the Indian Ocean.
• Our architects have designed an innovative and attractive building that will masterfully disguise the fact that the first five floors will be the uShaka carpark
• The massive benefit to all investors, is that our apartments only start on the 2nd floor, thus almost every apartment will look directly across uShaka to the ocean.

COMMENCEMENT
Estimated to be around the beginning of 2006

COMPLETION & OCCUPATION DATES
Anticipated to be in the second half of 2007


BACHELOR (R395k - R925k)

APARTMENT +/- 30 to 40 sq. meters
TERRACE +/- 5 sq.meters
PARKINGS 1 @ 12,5 sq. meters
TOTAL AREA +/- 47,5 to 57,5 sq. meters
NB. The bachelors minimum size may need to be increased to a of 45 sq. meters. If this is the case, then the price will increase accordingly. The decision to increase the size of this unit, will depend on our pending discussions with the banks.

1 BEDROOM (R635K - R1,35m)

APARTMENT +/- 50 sq. meters
TERRACE +/- 10 sq.meters
PARKINGS 1 @ 12,5 sq. meters
TOTAL AREA +/- 72,5 sq. meters


2 BEDROOM - (Medium) (1 bathroom) (R945k - R1,85m)

APARTMENT +/- 65 to 75 sq. meters
TERRACE +/- 15 sq.meters
PARKINGS 1 @ 12,5 sq. meters
TOTAL AREA +/- 92,5 to 102.5 sq. meters

2 BEDROOM - (Large) (2 bathroom) (R1,595m - R2,395m)

APARTMENT +/- 80 to 90 sq. meters
TERRACE +/- 15 sq.meters
PARKINGS 1 @ 12,5 sq. meters
TOTAL AREA +/- 107,5 to 117.5 sq. meters

3 BEDROOM (R2,295m - R3,895m)

APARTMENT +/- 120 to 140 sq. meters
TERRACE +/- 25 sq.meters
PARKINGS 2 @ 25 sq. meters
TOTAL AREA +/- 170 to 190 sq. meters

PENTHOUSES
We will be offering a mix of 2, 3 & 4 bedroomed ultra-luxury penthouses. There will be 2 levels of penthouses; an upper penthouse level (the garden penthouse) and a lower penthouse level (the penthouse). These two penthouse floors will be serviced by their own private lift, which will be for the penthouse owner's exclusive use.
"The Penthouse" will offer a large verandah area with a private Jacuzzi. Each "Garden Penthouse" will have its own private roof garden. These roof gardens will be beautifully landscaped with a paved garden area (with grass and shrubs) and each private garden area will come with its own built in gas braai, an automated awning and a choice of either a Jacuzzi or a splash pool. Prices have not been finalised on either of these two penthouse options and the prices will depend on the final layouts and design.


The lowest level of our apartments, would be on the 2nd floor, while the parkade will take up the basement, the ground floor and the first three floors.



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dysan1
June 29th, 2005, 07:32 PM
oh and 85 have already been sold pre-launch...official launch is in October.

To me this is a WOW development on the site directly infront of The Spinnaker at the entrance to uShaka.

and since it is only developing one site of the present 2 parking areas...there is still another parkade and resi/com dev to come :)

dysan1
June 29th, 2005, 07:51 PM
geez whats with all the gateway expansion?? The plot marked 21 is such a waste, Prime time real estate. Should develop more like century city, Multistory carpark decks (there by reducing the foot print for the same amount of cars) and build over the top with office towers and appartments

Future plans are densify the area and remove the open air car parks, but only at the stage when it is required and old mutual can realise the best value for their land, there is no point offering them for development when there is still loads of land available, it does not make sense for them to.

Gateway is continually expanding due to retailors wanting to be in the centre who initially thought the centre would be a white elephant and have now realised the error of their ways. Both the Edgars and Game expansions are complete. Work has just begun on the Planet Fitness and Loads of Living Expansion and the Stuttafords one will begin once they have managed to get out of their existing lease at the La Lucia Mall.


Just a quick question, are the masterplanned parks and recriational areas amongst the new low rise town centre behind gateway. Seems quite dense in a grid pattern and dont see muchg in the way of parkland or even sports facilities (aprt from the park by gateway)

In the inner core of each block, the land will be landscaped and gardens created. Also most buildings are offering roof gardens for their residents. The land between the palm boulevard developments and Aurora Drive is an open piazza known as European Square, it will have fountains, gardens and dense foilage. There are 2 other parks for the NTC, but they will only come about in the future phases as the NTC expands north past the central park (which is u/c now)



Umhlunga triangle is going to be the best bit of real estate in South africa, amazing views from there.

DEF!!! It is going to be really expensive and special there


As for good and bad buildings, Cant remebrs what is what , Ill have to trawl back through the thread, but there is deffinatly some good architecture there. And funny enough the cost per m2 is not really a reflection of bad facade work but more an internals issue. I have seen 'low income' developments in OZ that you would think were the platinium developments

I still dont find the facades that you are complaining about to be bad. To me they are great.. i think in time, when they are up, you will change your mind :)

datilguy
June 29th, 2005, 08:57 PM
OOOHHH.........Shakas Gate.......finally! :) :) not quite what i expected.......heckuva development tho!! The pool..........ooooohh a rim flow :) Assume the inner-courtyard/gardens and pool area faces the ocean and Ushaka? Wish there was a curtain wall somewhere......but I still love it!

dysan1
June 29th, 2005, 10:21 PM
yeh they look out at uShaka and the ocean. as it says, 90% of apartments have sea views over uShaka

dysan1
June 29th, 2005, 10:31 PM
correction...98 sold as of close of work today

SA BOY
June 30th, 2005, 07:55 AM
Impressive, very gold coast and deffinatly looking at densifying the area. Im glad that Durban is finalizing the full potentail of vertical living and as in most western ciries over the past 5 years , inner city or beachfront vertival living is very popular and profitable.
Bring on the cranes.
Ill add the render to emporis, BTW any consultsnts names for Shakas gate?

dysan1
June 30th, 2005, 10:41 AM
sorry no more details than that, it took forever for me to just get that!!!

To me its a striking development.


Update:

SKYhomes is being finalised as we speak and should come on the market towards Oct.

The Stevedore is in the conceptualisation phase and no further info is available. All i know is that the planned dev will cost R130 million...so will be rather large i guess

datilguy
June 30th, 2005, 05:32 PM
Mike, I finally saw a glimpse of the Royal Palm, WOW. U were right! A-M-A-Z-I-N-G

dysan1
June 30th, 2005, 08:24 PM
hehe told u so... :)

and is that count down for me? :)

datilguy
June 30th, 2005, 09:34 PM
Hehe :)

thryve
July 2nd, 2005, 03:41 AM
The lowrise apt./condo developments in Durban look very much like a 'tropical' Vancouver style... haha... nice and fresh.

I must say, you are doign an amazing job of posting developments!

Could you tell us about the "Umhlanga Ridgde new town centre" in general?

datilguy
July 2nd, 2005, 07:32 AM
PLEASE DO NOT lock this thread.

Thank You.

joburg
July 2nd, 2005, 10:03 AM
WOW.... Shaka's Gate looks magnificent! I just LOVE roof gardens! Keep them coming Dysan. :)

dysan1
July 2nd, 2005, 03:41 PM
The Umhlanga Ridge New Town Centre is designed to develop Umhlanga as an edge City. It is creating a fully fledged urban environment for the 21st century. Unlike similar developments (melrose arch), the NTC is fully integrated into the surrounding area and does not have any barriers to entry.

It is a mixed use centre. All buildings have to have at least 2 of the following components...Residential, Commercial and Retail...many have all three.

There are a multitude of planned parks and recreational areas in the later phases.

It is planned to be developed until completion in +- 2012

thryve
July 3rd, 2005, 09:27 PM
Like Gandalf, let's try posting developments with this tag at the top of each post.

NAME:
LOCATION:
STATUS:
FLOORS:
HEIGHT:
USE:

dysan1
July 9th, 2005, 11:53 PM
Giles... u said u purchased at Sanzala, where exactly is it? For the only dev i can find near Kensington is Morningside Ridge.

dysan1
July 18th, 2005, 08:19 PM
New look Moyeni!!!

Moyeni, South Beach

26F, u/c, Residential

It has 152 apartments, ranging in price from R525k to R1,3m (its 60% sold out)

http://www.myimagehub.com/userfiles/dysan1/Copy%20of%20moyeni%20new.JPG

SA BOY
July 19th, 2005, 10:03 AM
Giles... u said u purchased at Sanzala, where exactly is it? For the only dev i can find near Kensington is Morningside Ridge.
Sanzalla is down Percy Osbourne and then past the traffic centre and next to a church. Its above the graveyard that fronts down onto Ungeni rd ? I think its still Umgeni at that point. Essentailly ats above and behind the first row of properties along Umgeni looking directly over Windson golf course. I bought on the 7th floor 1 from the top

hsark
July 19th, 2005, 11:29 AM
woah thats a big and impressive change to the first rendering ,did they demolish any building it put this one up??

SA BOY
July 19th, 2005, 01:32 PM
if my memory serves me correct and its where I always imagined it, the site was a resturant and small shops complex that burnt down a few years ago directly behind the Malibu (Crown Plaza) hotel. I still rember it as the Malibu so im sticking whth that name.

dysan1
July 20th, 2005, 12:29 PM
Its directly behind the Holiday Inn South Beach and across the road from the Tropicana Hotel.

The site used to house a low rise shopping complex. It is across the road from the wheel and the Four Seasons.

SA BOY
July 20th, 2005, 01:23 PM
4 Seasons not Four Seasons. Im developing a Four Seasons property and its a 6 star hotel chain, deffinatly not a gillespie street type of place Although I wish Four Seasons would do a project in SA.
Mike have they cleaned that place up yet?
If its behind the Malibu it wont have much of a view as the Malibu is 85m high

dysan1
July 20th, 2005, 10:02 PM
it faces north, not east, therefore has great views over the 7F tropicana...to umhlanga and beyond

and the sign on the building says "Four Seasons", not 4 seasons. so go and complain :)

its still not the best, but better than a uear ago...time will tell, this bulding is the change and confidence booster the area needs

SA BOY
July 21st, 2005, 08:47 AM
you are completly right, this is sure to raise so concerns with the guys I work with in Canada.1000 appologies.
http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=255834
so facing north looking over tropicana seems good but what of belmont which is next to tropicanna , thats 18F so the view corridor will be between the 2 tall towers. should add some density to the area.
Has this officially started?

dysan1
July 21st, 2005, 04:16 PM
well there is a hole in the ground...must mean something

dysan1
July 22nd, 2005, 01:20 PM
EAST POINT - Durban Point

4F, 17 Apartments, Residential, Approved

http://www.durbanpoint.co.za/}imagery/dev_eastPoint.jpg

thryve
July 23rd, 2005, 05:17 PM
Im about to add a ton of new developments to the Durban fact file.

SA BOY
July 24th, 2005, 08:48 AM
look foward to some serious cranes in Durban now

dysan1
July 24th, 2005, 10:05 PM
total crane count as of today!

Umhlanga 11
Westbrook 2
Zimbali 5
Point 4
CBD 2
Berea 3
Cato Manor 1
Westville 3
Amanzimtoti 3
Riverhorse Valley 4
Phoenix 1

Total = 39

thryve
July 24th, 2005, 11:44 PM
woah dont cream urself guys ;)

SA BOY
July 25th, 2005, 09:10 AM
total crane count as of today!

Umhlanga 11- I assume all are up at Gateway and the new town centre-Any in the old town
Westbrook 2- What are these for?
Zimbali 5- Is this the new hotel? why so many?
Point 4- mid rise blocks, I dont think there are cranes on the 2 towers yet?
CBD 2-ABSA bank and ICC. Correct?
Berea 3- What are these?
Cato Manor 1-?
Westville 3-Low rise office blocks I assume?
Amanzimtoti 3- Shopping or residentail. Any towers planned or U/C there
Riverhorse Valley 4-Industrial and office ?
Phoenix 1-?

Total = 39

dysan1
July 25th, 2005, 11:39 AM
Umhlanga 11- I assume all are up at Gateway and the new town centre-Any in the old town There is one in the old town working on Pearl Reef

Westbrook 2- What are these for? Working on 2 high rise apartment dev. One is called Sunset Beach, and the other i dont know its name. Sunset beach is 13F

Zimbali 5- Is this the new hotel? why so many? For the Mzi Khumalo hotel to be run by 3 cities. Its a long spread out hotel, so guess needs alot

Point 4- mid rise blocks, I dont think there are cranes on the 2 towers yet? Cranes on They Quays, Harbour View Heights, Dolphin Whispers and Spinnaker

CBD 2-ABSA bank and ICC. Correct? Correct :)

Berea 3- What are these? Sanzala, Morningside Ridge and one dev which i know nothing about on ridge road

Cato Manor 1-? Developing a heritage centre

Westville 3-Low rise office blocks I assume? 2 in Westway on 4F office parks, the other at the Pavillion

Amanzimtoti 3- Shopping or residentail. Any towers planned or U/C there All three are for apartment dev. I am bad when it comes to putting info on toti apartments up, but there are over 20 which have been released. but all in the 5-10F range

Riverhorse Valley 4-Industrial and office Correct. At present 10 sites u/c

Phoenix 1-? Shopping centre - 17 000m2

Total = 39

Must add the one i saw near the aitport today for the Shallcross mall and the 2 in the Southgate industrial estate near toti

GRAND TOTAL = 42

SA BOY
July 25th, 2005, 01:22 PM
Umhlanga 11- I assume all are up at Gateway and the new town centre-Any in the old town There is one in the old town working on Pearl Reef
ANY CHANCE OF A PIC OR TWO OF THIS TOWER AND THE CRANE

Westbrook 2- What are these for? Working on 2 high rise apartment dev. One is called Sunset Beach, and the other i dont know its name. Sunset beach is 13F COOL, THE NEXT UMHLUNGA

Zimbali 5- Is this the new hotel? why so many? For the Mzi Khumalo hotel to be run by 3 cities. Its a long spread out hotel, so guess needs alot
THIS IS ON THE BACK OF THE SITE-RIGHT?

Point 4- mid rise blocks, I dont think there are cranes on the 2 towers yet? Cranes on They Quays, Harbour View Heights, Dolphin Whispers and Spinnaker COOL SPINNAKER HAS A CRANE, AGAIN ANY CHANCE OF PICS OF THESE SITES

CBD 2-ABSA bank and ICC. Correct? Correct :)
NEXT UP icc HOTEL ( :|

Berea 3- What are these? Sanzala, Morningside Ridge and one dev which i know nothing about on ridge road
SANZALA IS WHERE I BOUGHT A TOP FLOOR UNIT, WOULDENT MIND SEEING A PIC OR TWO OF THAT

Cato Manor 1-? Developing a heritage centre

Westville 3-Low rise office blocks I assume? 2 in Westway on 4F office parks, the other at the Pavillion

Amanzimtoti 3- Shopping or residentail. Any towers planned or U/C there All three are for apartment dev. I am bad when it comes to putting info on toti apartments up, but there are over 20 which have been released. but all in the 5-10F range
NOTRHING DECENT AND MEATY FOR US TO LOOK AT? TOTI STILL HAS PRIME LAND AVAILABE FOR OCEAN FRONT TOWERS
Riverhorse Valley 4-Industrial and office Correct. At present 10 sites u/c

Phoenix 1-? Shopping centre - 17 000m2

Total = 39

Must add the one i saw near the aitport today for the Shallcross mall and the 2 in the Southgate industrial estate near toti

GRAND TOTAL = 42
POOR OLD PINETOWN-NOTHING HAPPENING THERE IS THERE?

dysan1
July 26th, 2005, 12:06 AM
There is a new shopping centre going up in Pinetown...will post the article in the discussion thread.

other than that, there is a bit of housing dev there, but nothing high rise

SA BOY
July 27th, 2005, 08:39 AM
pity cos Old mutual towers could do with some company. I rember as a kid we lived there for 6 months while our house was being built in cowies hill and we stayed on the 23rd floor pentohouses. The views were awesome

Doc G
November 14th, 2005, 06:27 PM
Hi all, I have also purchased a Sanzala unit last yr
I'm an SA doctor now working in Ireland
Anyone out there seen the site recently ?

Doc G
November 14th, 2005, 06:42 PM
Sanzalla is down Percy Osbourne and then past the traffic centre and next to a church. Its above the graveyard that fronts down onto Ungeni rd ? I think its still Umgeni at that point. Essentailly ats above and behind the first row of properties along Umgeni looking directly over Windson golf course. I bought on the 7th floor 1 from the top
hi, have also purchased a unit on the 7th floor Sanzala
Any news ?

SA BOY
November 15th, 2005, 08:19 AM
I mailed the developer and these are his comments:
Good to hear from you.The contract is on level 4 of the project.We are on program to pour a slab sect 1 and 2 every week.
If there is more info reqd .please contact Mr Watts or myself.
Looking forward seeing you back home

Hope this helps.
What unit is yours?

Doc G
November 27th, 2005, 09:27 PM
Hi
Thanks 4 the feedback
Mine is unit 54 if I'm not mistaken
I look forward 2 coming back - can't beat SA !

R u involved with the development at all?
Feel free 2 mail me on antger76@gmail.com

SA BOY
November 28th, 2005, 06:51 AM
nope not involved in this development, just an investment. we have stoped buying propertyyin the cape and have started focusing on Durban due to the better returns and yields.
I do however develop large scale projects in the middle east

Doc G
December 4th, 2005, 08:51 PM
Hi, yes I agree that Durbs has better potential right now, I also own in the Cape & have changed focus 2 Durbs.
The E. Cape also holds much potential that is currently being tapped as well.

2 things re: Sanzala
1) Do u know whether the developer (Nel Nathu I think his name is) is any good ?

2) As u know theres strong drive 2wards low cost housing developments by the government close 2 city centres (2 b granted 2 the prev. underprivileged). Some areas r being rezoned 4 this.

Do u not think that the Golf course in front of Sanazala might be rezoned for this ?

Obviously it would not be good, yet is possible & is something 2 listen out 4

A friend of mine is quite big in the ANC KZN division & I've asked him 2 let me know wx areas r planned 4 low cost houses ! Will wait & see !

Cheers

SA BOY
December 5th, 2005, 09:21 AM
Doc
I have only mailed Nel a couple of times and he has been responsive and proffecional so I dont think we would have a prob with him
I dont see Windsor becomming low cost at all, the city needs to breath and its a city course.
I think we are on a good wicket and Im looking for new oppotunities in Durban. Im a fan on morningside/musgrave etc and am not joining the rush to Umhlunga as I think there is still a strong need to mid range 750-1,2mil units in the tradditional established areas

dysan1
December 5th, 2005, 10:56 AM
The city council is so focussed on developing the Kings Park node as the cities massive world class sports precinct, that they will never remove Windsor Park or the DCC. Also, the council have a strict policy on green belts, and the Umgeni area is one of the prime green lungs in the city...so i dont ever see it going!

The big low cost housing plans are for Bridge City and Cornubia. Both are massive projects, over R10bn each, and serve to create integrated communities.

The other area they plan for low to medium cost homes, is in the umbilo area, close to the harbour.

Westside local
December 6th, 2005, 01:03 AM
Hi
This blog is great, glad to find it.
Am looking for some guidance here.
I have invested in a few durban properties and believe that affordable is the way to go right now for investment purposes. What is the thinking round esplanade/point? Buy in an old existing block or buy something off-plan like Shakas Gate at 415k?

anyone can advise?

dysan1
December 6th, 2005, 02:30 PM
Ooh thats a tough one. the advantage of the new blocks like shaka's gate, is that the whole building will be in a prime spot at a high level of standards, whereas in those older blocks there will prob be many that are not maintained to the desired spec and level. Then again, you can prob by those far cheaper.

My investments have been in new dev at the point, for i believe that the price increases there in 2 years time will unbelieveable.

SA BOY
December 6th, 2005, 06:15 PM
Shakas Gate at 415K?? Im from a different school of thought, I buy between 550 and 750 and have all my properties in good established areas. Buying in a new node (point or umhlunga town centre) means you are up against hundreds of new properties for tennants. Take morningside where we have bought at Sanzala, great location and views, close to establised roads, amenities and the city and a steal at 750.
I have a tennat at 4500p/m and after reducing the bond to break even im getting a yeild at 10% pa and capital gains at 15-20% min.
the biggest problem we all face as investors is having a ntennant who can pay a decent return on the rentals and i see some guys getting like 5% which means id rather have my money in the bank with those returns.
I mean if you pay 2mil for am appartment you need to get 20k p/m before levies to break even.

Westside local
December 6th, 2005, 11:06 PM
good point Dysan1. the advantage to those developments is also things like undercover parking and security. Many of the old blocks don't have any decent parking to talk of (some have none!! - eg Ottawa court, west street), and these days everyone has cars and wants to know they are safe. Right now parking your car on the road is out, prob won't be there in the morning.

I also hear what SA Boy has to say. I think all the new flats at Umhlanga Ridge node are struggling to get tenants - and rental market flooded at upper end. That was why I was talking more emerging middle-class where there is still room for capital growth and where rentals come closer to covering bond without having to tie up a lot of cash in a large deposit. My key aim at present is to be as liquid as possible - otherwise end up living on bread and water just trying to pay the bonds!!

As a point of interest (excuse the pun) who do we see occupying the point developments? People already living in that area? or new people moving in from say Morningside/Berea???

Doc G
December 7th, 2005, 01:34 PM
Thanks for yr input SA boy & Dysan1

That is helpful


I agree with all the pints made about the advantages of letting a place in Morningside/Berea

The city council is so focussed on developing the Kings Park node as the cities massive world class sports precinct, that they will never remove Windsor Park or the DCC. Also, the council have a strict policy on green belts, and the Umgeni area is one of the prime green lungs in the city...so i dont ever see it going!

The big low cost housing plans are for Bridge City and Cornubia. Both are massive projects, over R10bn each, and serve to create integrated communities.

The other area they plan for low to medium cost homes, is in the umbilo area, close to the harbour.

dysan1
December 7th, 2005, 10:41 PM
Dont forget that the rentals in the Umhlanga Ridge new town centre are really high, and people are paying. You cant get a 1 bed flat for under R3500/m and 2 beds start at R4200/m.

Regards the point...the people already living in South Beach/point will not be the new people in these dev's, simply cos they wont afford them! The people moving in will be the trendy set...imo

Cape Town Guy
December 7th, 2005, 11:08 PM
Are prices (housing) going up in durbs?Cos theyre still considerably cheaper than CT.

dysan1
December 7th, 2005, 11:42 PM
um...according to the ABSA house price index and Standard Banks property outlook, Durban has the grown the most in the last 2 quarters, and experienced the hightest growth last year of the 3 major cities.

Yes prices in Durban are lower than in CT and Jozi, thats mainly due to the lack of growth that took place in the 90's where durban's economy was by far the worst hit. The last few years durban property prices have been playing catch up...

Giles can respond more directly regarding property price gains, but from my experience Durban has provided better returns in the last year or so than elsewhere.

Dont forget that the CT market (more so Atlantic seaboard) is flat now, and sales have fallen flat. i could post many an article to support this, but the fact is that CT has reached a plateau, while Durban and Jozi are yet to get there yet.

Cape Town Guy
December 8th, 2005, 06:17 AM
the CT market has flatterned a bit but predictions are that it could be going up in the comming year (parents in the market). And thats not much of a good thing as the prices of houses and general things (beer, milk, bread etc.) are more expensive already. also as shown by carte blanch.

But ja, good for Durbs, and as ive been saying i will want to see that place in 2010!!!

SA BOY
December 9th, 2005, 07:46 AM
property devlopment and investment is a very emotive thing and there 2 main points to consider when buying.
firstly location location location- its been said before and is the cornerstone of everthing
secondly buy or develop a place thats aimed squarly at a tennat so it has to be marketable and practical and most important maintenance frendly. Dont choose tiles, colours etc that suit your taste but suit a nameless faceless tennat.I buy in the mid band 550-1,2mil band as your middle class will always have a upper, middsel and lower band , and its the middle class you want to let property too.
Im not a fan of high end development due top the limited pool of tennat and or buyers.
RTemamber debit is cheep but another 9/11 or SARS or whatever could push rates up like in 97 when so many people lost everything. Its happening in Oz at the mo and people who are over extended come up short no matter how much capitail gain you have got, if there are no buyers there are no sellers.

Pule
December 9th, 2005, 11:27 AM
um...according to the ABSA house price index and Standard Banks property outlook, Durban has the grown the most in the last 2 quarters, and experienced the hightest growth last year of the 3 major cities.

Yes prices in Durban are lower than in CT and Jozi, thats mainly due to the lack of growth that took place in the 90's where durban's economy was by far the worst hit. The last few years durban property prices have been playing catch up...

Giles can respond more directly regarding property price gains, but from my experience Durban has provided better returns in the last year or so than elsewhere.

Dont forget that the CT market (more so Atlantic seaboard) is flat now, and sales have fallen flat. i could post many an article to support this, but the fact is that CT has reached a plateau, while Durban and Jozi are yet to get there yet.

Agreed Mike, CT is down, thanx to the administrators. N2 Gateway project is a failure, CT is fvcked, they must just fire the useless Mfeteko.