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Cyrus
June 2nd, 2005, 08:02 PM
http://old.hamedan-ir.com/turist/images/45-hayagog.jpg
Tomb of Habakkuk in Tuyserkan (14th century)

After the tombs of Daniel, Esther and Mordecai, this is the largest Jewish tomb in Iran, of course it is not clear that it is really the tomb of Habakkuk the prophet or not.

Due to its isolated location, few travelers have visited the site. David d'Beth Hillel, who visited Persia during the reign of Fath-Ali Shah (ca. 1824), gives a favorable account of Tuyserkan and its surroundings as a fertile and prosperous region. He devotes a short passage to the tomb: "About half an hour's distance from the town is a little circular tower. The Israelites say that there is buried the prophet Habakkuk."

http://www.ofoq.com/gallery/data/media/25/Image-21.jpg

This is an octagonal tower topped by a conical roof. Each of the eight sides of the roughly 7 meter high tower is embellished with the design of an inset arch. The conical roof has been formed out of 16 columns arranged in a circle and leaning towards its center, where they converge, about 5 meters above, to create its peak.

http://www.bahoosh.net/Img/b/(583).jpg

Inside the monument there is a marble gravestone with, according to some sources a wooden chest placed over it. On either side above the gravestone there is a menorah, with a Star of David placed between the pair. Beneath these religious symbols, are inscribed verses in Hebrew. They are from the Book of Habakkuk, 3:1,2 "Prayer of Habakkuk the prophet upon shigionoth; O Lord, I heard your speech and was afraid, O Lord!"

Monkey
June 2nd, 2005, 08:18 PM
Habbakuk? who is? maybe Ha Rav Kuk?

Raza
June 2nd, 2005, 08:24 PM
so iran is a land of ancient isreal. even western pakistan.

[MakkabI]
June 2nd, 2005, 08:37 PM
Very interesting... :)

Thanks for your sharing information... Cyrus... :)

BTW, is Cyrus (not your nickname, the real one), the Jewish King of Iran before???

Monkey
June 2nd, 2005, 08:37 PM
well done Iran.....

[MakkabI]
June 2nd, 2005, 08:37 PM
so iran is a land of ancient isreal. even western pakistan.

Hello Raza...
Is that true?

smussuw
June 2nd, 2005, 08:39 PM
^ :runaway:

Shohad
June 2nd, 2005, 08:44 PM
Very interesting... :)

Thanks for your sharing information... Cyrus... :)

BTW, is Cyrus (not your nickname, the real one), the Jewish King of Iran before???

CYRUS IS THE GREAT PERSIAN KING WE NAME-KORESH
There are many ‘koresh’ streets in Israel that carry this name since he set the Jews free and allowed them to leave Babylon.(ezra & nehemya)
then we created the second temple and established a kingdom once again.

JIM CARREY
June 2nd, 2005, 08:51 PM
:) Nice
Thanks for your sharing information

Monkey
June 2nd, 2005, 09:26 PM
hehe we have cafe "koresh" in Netanya:)))

Hebrewtext
June 3rd, 2005, 12:21 AM
Tomb of Havakuk righteous prophet in the Galilee Israel

http://img24.echo.cx/img24/7103/havakuk7sv.jpg

Habakkuk or Havakuk (חבקוק, Standard Hebrew Ḥavaqquq, Tiberian Hebrew Ḥaḇaqqûq) was a prophet in the Bible Old Testament and Jewish Tanakh. The name is possibly related to an Akkadian word for a plant or the Hebrew word meaning "embrace." He was the eighth of the twelve minor prophets, and likely the author of the Book of Habakkuk, which bears his name.
Practically nothing is known about Habakkuk's personal history, and all that we surmise is inferred from the text of his book, which consists of five oracles about the Chaldeans ( Assyrians) and a song of praise to God. Since the Chaldean rise to power is dated c. 612 B.C., we can assume that he was active about that time, making him an early contemporary of Jeremiah and Zephaniah. Jewish sources, however, do not group him with those two prophets, who are often placed together, so it is possible that he was slightly earlier than them.

Because of the final chapter of his book, which is a poetic praise of God, it has been assumed that Habakkuk was likely a member of the Levitical choir in the Temple. Contemporary scholars point out, however, that this chapter is missing from the Dead Sea Scrolls and has some similarities with texts found in the Book of Daniel. They therefore suggest that it is a later interpolation which influenced the authors of Daniel, and that it is impossible to make the assumption of Habakkuk's background based on it.

Cyrus
June 3rd, 2005, 09:48 AM
Thanks but please tell me about the architecture of this building, are there similar buildings in Israel?

Shohad
June 3rd, 2005, 12:28 PM
About the architecture.
I don’t think there is something similar in Israel, it looks to me like other ancient Persian structures(doesn’t mean that Persians made it, could be jews).

Gilgamesh
June 3rd, 2005, 12:33 PM
Very interesting!

Cyrus
June 3rd, 2005, 01:33 PM
It is not in the Persian style of architecture, in fact ancient Persians didn't bury their dead and rarely built any mausoleum.

I think this building is a little similar to the ziggurats or if we want to say something Jewish, king Solomon's temple:

http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/images/king_solomons_temple_1.jpg

Cyrus
June 3rd, 2005, 02:37 PM
The tomb of Daniel the Prophet in Susa has also a similar architecture:

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/volume4/V04p429001.jpg

http://tabisite.hp.infoseek.co.jp/gallery_as/iran/020824tw.jpg

http://www.iranonline.com/iran/khuzestan/images/daniel-tomb.JPG

It is one of the holiest sites in Iran which is venerated by both Jews and Muslims.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7c/Danielburial2.jpg

http://www.ostan-kz.ir/media/image/2004/10/172_orig.jpg http://www.ostan-kz.ir/media/image/2004/10/174_orig.jpg

Shohad
June 3rd, 2005, 04:47 PM
CYRUS. vary Interesting!
But the temple of Solomon looked more like that in the picture actually.
http://img260.echo.cx/img260/807/mosesjpg8du.jpg
And in anyway this cant be called a ‘jewish’ style structure. The size and measures of the temple are mentioned in the torah and were given by god, but actually besides the simple workers building it(which were Israelites) the Phoenicians built it.
The Phoenicians were masters in that field and they made the art, statues, metal-work etc.
And that was always the case - they built the important buildings until both kingdoms declined simultaneously. That’s why there is basically no such thing as Jewish building style.

Cyrus
June 3rd, 2005, 09:35 PM
Therefore you think these are in the Phoenician style, yes?

Hebrewtext
June 3rd, 2005, 11:01 PM
look at these tombs in Jerusalem:

Avsalom tomb 1st century AD hellenistic style
http://img155.echo.cx/img155/6574/jerusalemmonumentsavsalomspill.jpg

http://img155.echo.cx/img155/3449/iolives160ee.jpg

Zachariah tomb
http://img155.echo.cx/img155/3944/jerusalemmonuments0jd.jpg

Shohad
June 4th, 2005, 07:58 AM
Therefore you think these are in the Phoenician style, yes?
Well.. You say its not Persian.
it could be a Jewish building style that was influenced by Phoenicians and developed in Persia.
But I would say it Phoenician. No.
edited: there are similarities with the Jerusalem tombs actually.

Shohad
June 5th, 2005, 02:27 PM
Today in the library I picked-up a buck about Jerusalem.
Somewhere in it I came across “avshaloms tomb” which was similar to those posted at here first(that are in Persia). And indeed! I was wrong.
That construction style is typical for Jewish nobles, but it was developed later during the heshmonaim dynasty which ruled in Israel in the 2nd-1st centuries bc.

dubai3000
September 28th, 2007, 10:45 PM
so iran is a land of ancient isreal. even western pakistan.

i heard there are ancient jewish things found in western pakistan region

þopsï
September 28th, 2007, 11:01 PM
isn't habakuk the prophet who said something that if you harm lebanon , you will get harmed or sth like that ??

Gilgamesh VI
September 29th, 2007, 12:39 AM
No, why would any prophet say that anyway?
There is a line about Lebanon tough, it's in the second chapter you can read it yourself.

þopsï
October 3rd, 2007, 06:02 PM
oh ok , i simply asked cause i heard abt it once , thx.