View Full Version : Kaunas new high-rise residential district U/C
liutass June 3rd, 2005, 08:13 AM http://bustuva.lt/verkiu/visual/01.jpg
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35 m. chimney destroyed
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35 m. chimney destroyed
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Gatis June 3rd, 2005, 10:08 AM Ohoho. Big district. How many apartments?
Oberleutnant June 3rd, 2005, 10:10 AM Sorry, but I don't like this plan myself. Layout of buildings looks like something copied from a 1970s book "On Planning Commieblock Suburbs, 3rd Edition"
ch1le June 3rd, 2005, 10:20 AM i must agree with OL here... its a subby commie(litty) district
liutass June 3rd, 2005, 10:27 AM Ohoho. Big district. How many apartments?
900 ;)
_alonso_ June 3rd, 2005, 03:14 PM guys, don't be funny;) how do you imagine residential districts without commieblockishism?
NorthStar77 June 3rd, 2005, 03:40 PM guys, don't be funny;) how do you imagine residential districts without commieblockishism?
I think it is horrible that planners still, in 2005, makes so bad plans. I don't understand why. But it seems like a majority of projects, even here in Norway, have these commieblockish tendencies.
There are some that manages without these mastodontic mistakes from the 60'ies though, and manages to make some good urban space. Here are some examples from Oslo developement thread.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/TjuvholmenOversiktFraNord.jpg
http://www.fredensborg-jesscarlsen.no/images/fugleperspektiv.jpg
http://www.nybydel.no/imagearchive/Løren_by_night.jpg
http://www.exact.no/arch/_img/157606.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4570661_3_0_nydalen_fuglepers.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4838521_1_0_kiellands_hus_fasade0001.jpg
http://www.ifi.no/bilder_andre_str/Egetvindu/2004/2004_12/Lysaker1.jpg
_keen_ June 3rd, 2005, 11:30 PM Boring ...
blimey June 3rd, 2005, 11:54 PM Looks pretty commie to me too. I like this girl's figure though:
http://img96.echo.cx/img96/6329/img2899croppedresize0ww.jpg
_alonso_ June 4th, 2005, 02:16 PM ^^^ are you talking about the one in orange?
ShuMi June 4th, 2005, 03:21 PM Yea, i think blimey sure is. :D
zippo21 June 4th, 2005, 03:36 PM Yeah!!!that orange chick looks cool! :rock:
_alonso_ June 4th, 2005, 03:55 PM @NorthSat77
well, perhaps that was the best decision, which fits the environment..dunno.
but this one from your collection, I would definitely call "Commieblockish district. first edition";)
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4570661_3_0_nydalen_fuglepers.jpg
Oberleutnant June 4th, 2005, 05:08 PM Interesting. I wouldn't call that very commieblockish myself. It's far more dense and urban and carries a "more organ pattern".
_alonso_ June 4th, 2005, 05:28 PM @Oberleutnant
I used to read such soviet magazines long time ago, called "Mokslas ir gyvenimas" ("Science and Life").
very good and informative magazine though, just if to take out some propagandas and "brain-washing" articles. I could recall now several visions about giants commies districts etc. such a planning, which was posted by NorthStar77, definitely was mentioned there too;)
grendy June 5th, 2005, 01:40 AM Why did they tear down the chimney? Although it wasn't that tall it could've been left alone in the middle of new buildings.. you know..
_alonso_ June 5th, 2005, 02:22 PM no, we don't:) what's the sense, to have an ugly big chimney in the middle of a modern residential highrises' yard?
grendy June 5th, 2005, 08:09 PM What makes it ugly? Tampere is full of old chimneys to remind of old factories and they're beautiful when illuminated correctly! They're easy to save because they don't take that much space. But hey that's only my point of view being used to see a lot of chimneys.
sander June 5th, 2005, 09:47 PM Regardless that buildings are placed a little commieblockishly, I quite like the buildings. So imo it`s a positive progress.
Oberleutnant June 5th, 2005, 10:50 PM To illustrate grendy's point (this is actually one of his shots) of a new residential district in Tampere
http://www.sci.fi/~olvari/tampere/kevat05/image29.jpg
_keen_ June 5th, 2005, 11:23 PM All you that are saying that Kaunas project doesn't look commieblockishly compare it to this ^^^.
Btw, Oberleutnant are there any regulations about open spaces in Helsinki ? Is it legal to build that dense leaving little to no green areas and etc ? Or the land is so pricy that such things doesn't make any sense ?
sdes June 6th, 2005, 10:32 AM All you that are saying that Kaunas project doesn't look commieblockishly compare it to this ^^^.
Btw, Oberleutnant are there any regulations about open spaces in Helsinki ? Is it legal to build that dense leaving little to no grean areas and etc ? Or the land is so pricy that such things doesn't make any sense ?
I think there are somekind of regulations, not sure though.
Look at these detailed plans of couple new areas in Helsinki:
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/herttoniemenranta/pop_ups/images/yleiskartta.jpg
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/vuosaari/kallahti/pop_ups/images/kallahti_havainne.gif
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/viikki_kivikko/latokartano/pop_ups/images/latokartano780.gif
Of course the downtown area is a lot more denser than those, but we are talking about suburbs now :)
As you can see there are many parks :)
blimey June 6th, 2005, 10:39 AM Come on guys. That news residential district in Kaunas is commie planning at it's worst. The design of the buildings is ok-ish though.
Oberleutnant June 6th, 2005, 01:01 PM It's not the buildings that I'm worried about, not at all. Especially the tallest building looks rather nice, and if only those buildings would be mixed together in irregular pattern it would look great.
All you that are saying that Kaunas project doesn't look commieblockishly compare it to this ^^^.
Btw, Oberleutnant are there any regulations about open spaces in Helsinki ? Is it legal to build that dense leaving little to no grean areas and etc ? Or the land is so pricy that such things doesn't make any sense ?
The area there is not in Helsinki, but in Tampere. :) These photos of models show more or less how it's arranged behind that large uniformal side.
http://www.pienoismallipaja.com/kuvat/asuntomyynti/tampella_aloitus1.jpg
http://www.pienoismallipaja.com/kuvat/asuntomyynti/koskenkohina1.jpg
http://www.pienoismallipaja.com/kuvat/asuntomyynti/koskenniska1.jpg
This is from Helsinki, somewhat suburbish area, but rather close to downtown (8 km or so)
http://www.hel.fi/ksv/projektit/arabianranta/asemakaava/pop_ups/images/asema.jpg
What I like it here is that the early 20th century factory (dark blue) was fully preserved and turned into new facility for University of Art and Design. It contains a library and other places, too.
http://fotot.jarvenpaa.net/arkisto/web/0000000165.jpg
http://img212.echo.cx/img212/9356/portaali1rs.jpg
A new office building was built and merged with the factory. It's fused right next to it. Looks so great together, and I think this should be used elsewhere, too. You don't need to take down every old industrial building, but keep them intact and renovate. Their presence is historical heritage as well, just as much as Art Nouveau buildings, etc.
Residentials in that new area aren't all that good, though.
http://img251.echo.cx/img251/5440/funksih1mq.jpg
ch1le June 6th, 2005, 01:08 PM ... the difference between commie areas and urban good development is that commie districts never !NEVER! get corner buildings and street patterns
Gatis June 6th, 2005, 01:09 PM OK, I think that this is great anyway if Kaunas enters highrise era. The only thing I am afraid - if the first highrise will not look good, there will be popular resistance against next ones.
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