Here's a large new development planned for the Northern Quarter which was featured in Friday's (3/6/05) YEP Homes supplement.

Not sure exactly where it is, although must be close to Concord St development.

242 apartments plus 12,000 ft commercial- a big project that looks impressive.

See the developers website to find out more and see a virtual tour:


www.morrisprops.com

I'm not so sure about the building itself, will probaby look better when complete. It looks a bit factory like...The inside looks good though. Maybe those 'things' on the roof could be solar panels...

I ddidn't think much of it on the pictures but it looks great on the video, with some nice wooden cladding. Also the roof garden looks great.

A nice midrise project :) Nice to see a more unique roof design :yes:

I'm confused - isn't this the Regents Park House refit on Regent Street? Micro pads etc? Although the mpeg clip suggests a new build.

I was thinking the same thing Jimbo!

I'm confused - isn't this the Regents Park House refit on Regent Street? Micro pads etc? Although the mpeg clip suggests a new build.

Jimbo, I don't think it can be the same site at all. Apart from the features, the building is a different shape to Regents Park House. Also, if you look at the aeriel render, you can see the culverted beck running to one side of the site. My recollection is that this runs behind the buildings on the other side of Regent Street, down towards Mabgate.

That being said, I still don't have a clue where this development is proposed to be.

It could be being extended, bits taken away...etc so really its near to a new building but not. In the similar way to West Central or whatever its called.

They've already begun selling apartments for the regents park house conversion, so I tthink this is something different.

Didn't Regents park House rise to 7 or 8 storeys? This project only rises to 5 or 6, so I think we have a different site here.

......and the mystery deepens!

Didn't Regents park House rise to 7 or 8 storeys? This project only rises to 5 or 6, so I think we have a different site here.

......and the mystery deepens!

It does indeed.

I wrote to the developers asking exactly where it is - no answer as yet.

Will keep you posted.

I know there is a large enough piece of land with hoardings around it just next to Regents Park house, where the Maguires Irish pub fronts onto Regents Street with the Concord Street development to the rear. I think the T.A. buildings are across Skinner lane from the plot also.The ground here has been cleared and flattened in recent weeks... I noticed on the plans there is a small brook/ ditch looking thing, well that runs exactly through this spot by Falcon electrical wholesale and those other industrial units.

Just a guess, but it certainly looks like a likely spot to me?

From :Leedstoday.net

City's new £32m housing scheme

WORK will start in the next couple of months on a new £32m housing scheme in Leeds' growing Northern Quarter.
The landmark development known as 20/20 Skinner Lane is due for completion next November and will provide 242 apartments.
Morris Properties (UK) Ltd has instructed agent Allsop to market the property to bulk purchasers. Offers are sought for the whole or part.
Morris develops only in areas identified to have high capital growth with higher yields.
Rebeccah Wilkinson of Allsop said: "20/20 is an imaginative development set in its own grounds with landscaped gardens, a stream and secure parking.
"Only a few minutes' walk from the city centre, it has been designed to a high specification.
Deluxe
It will include 142 deluxe one- and two-bedroom apartments, 75 micro pads and 24 studios.
"The Northern Quarter offers tenants a more affordable product than apartments in the city centre and presents investors with a great opportunity for future capital and retail growth. More than five per cent of the units have already been reserved."
20/20 Skinner Lane will be spread over six floors and will have 12,000 sq ft of office space at ground level.
The L-shaped development will be built around three main cores with the main frontage overlooking Skinner Lane. It will also look out on to Regent Street and a private courtyard.
The design team has been led by Leeds architects Brewster Bye.
05 December 2005

Here's a couple of piccys from the Morris Properties site.
I like the roof top garden, pity it doesn't cover a bit more of the roof though.

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I'm still not sure where this site is. I think it's left of Regent St between that and Mabgate.

I'm still not sure where this site is. I think it's left of Regent St between that and Mabgate.

It's on Skinner Lane to the right (east) of Regent Street between that and Mabgate.

Doh! I meant right of Regent Street - I should learn not to post before 10am!

Hello all, I have just joined and thought I would shed some light on the location of this site for you. It is the large office building directly opposite Milfords builders merchants on Skinner Lane. The property is currently owned by Simon Morrris's dad but it is Simon Morris who has taken it up and planned the project.

Hello all, I have just joined and thought I would shed some light on the location of this site for you. It is the large office building directly opposite Milfords builders merchants on Skinner Lane. The property is currently owned by Simon Morrris's dad but it is Simon Morris who has taken it up and planned the project.
Welcome Ben!

You work in the er, "business" then?

Hello and thanks for the welcome. Sorry for the delay but I have been overseas for a bit. I am in the property developing business but not on the same scale as Mr Morris and the like although I do know a lot of the large developers very well. I concentrate on doing a few select properties a year to a very high standard and rent them out although one of my current projects is a block of apartments which I will be part selling and part renting.
Like a lot of the posters on here I take a very close interest in the changing face of Leeds , not only from a business point of view but also from a personal view point because I was born and raised here and at last it is brilliant to see Leeds getting the investment and the recognition it deserves as the great city it is. I can remember around 11-12 years ago fishing in the Basin where the Armouries are now and walking through and around all the derelict buildings in that area and to see it now and to realise the income and investment and jobs it has brought to the city is fantastic. I was recently in Liverpool and the large area of run down and derelict houses just outside the centre reminded me of parts of Leeds back then and I think within 5-10 years Liverpool will emerge as a major development opportunity especially with it getting underway now with the Paradise Project. Power to the North !

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I'm still not sure where this site is. I think it's left of Regent St between that and Mabgate.

Here's the 20/20 thread !

The reason I brought this one back up is did anyone see the planning application 06/03419/FU/E this week, for a 15 storey residential tower on Lincoln Green Road ? (see the map above).
This is not only the biggest proposal in the 'Northern Quarter' but would do the excellant job of visiually linking up the Northern Quarter (North St, Skinner Lane, Regent St etc) developments with the rapidly growing St James Hospital. The project will be aimed at health workers some have already moved into some dedicated ex-council high rises. Parts of that area and the Northern Quarter are starting to see a good deal of regeneration and success

Here's the 20/20 thread !

The reason I brought this one back up is did anyone see the planning application 06/03419/FU/E this week, for a 15 storey residential tower on Lincoln Green Road ? (see the map above).
This is not only the biggest proposal in the 'Northern Quarter' but would do the excellant job of visiually linking up the Northern Quarter (North St, Skinner Lane, Regent St etc) developments with the rapidly growing St James Hospital. The project will be aimed at health workers some have already moved into some dedicated ex-council high rises. Parts of that area and the Northern Quarter are starting to see a good deal of regeneration and success

good find, the Emco House proposal and the old British Gas tower are also big catalysts in the Northern Quarter. The 20/20 advertising seems a little liberal with the use of the term Harewood Quarter, but I suppose once the Harewood/Eastgate scheme is completed, and the two developments above are done, then the link through to Regent Street, Pratts and Maplin etc will be quite pronounced. To walk to the train station I think it would be 20mins at best, and that is bisecting the entire city centre from north east to south west!!!!!

Incidently saw the the Fox Hayes finished scheme the other day, apartments on Concord Street are too close together, but the office element looks very impressive.

Incidently saw the the Fox Hayes finished scheme the other day, apartments on Concord Street are too close together,

I commented on this many months ago - look at previous postings.

I commented on this many months ago - look at previous postings.

well maybe you did, well done sport. That's what these threads are here for you know.

I however only saw it in its finished state three weeks back, and was pleasantly surprised hence my post.

well maybe you did, well done sport. That's what these threads are here for you know.

I however only saw it in its finished state three weeks back, and was pleasantly surprised hence my post.

Thanks for the patronising approval Jimbo. My criticism (and apparently yours) was about Concord Street, and not Fox Hayes, and I originally mentioned something about the flats lining the narrow street being a paradise for peeping toms. My very first comment about the development was actually to the press, about the rather dilapidated buildings demolished in Jan/Feb 2003 to make way for the flats. One of them housed the very first Montague Burton tailoring factory from 1915 to 1922.

and I originally mentioned something about the flats lining the narrow street being a paradise for peeping toms.

You'd be suprised what you can see...then again maybe you wouldn't.

Thanks for the patronising approval Jimbo. My criticism (and apparently yours) was about Concord Street, and not Fox Hayes, and I originally mentioned something about the flats lining the narrow street being a paradise for peeping toms. My very first comment about the development was actually to the press, about the rather dilapidated buildings demolished in Jan/Feb 2003 to make way for the flats. One of them housed the very first Montague Burton tailoring factory from 1915 to 1922.

no probs, happy to oblige.

I'm probably repeating an earlier post, but one of those BBC programmes on the etymology of popular sayings attributed 'The Full Monty' to the famous Montague Burton himself. Top trivia.

anyway, back to topic, have they started on site at this one then?

anyway, back to topic, have they started on site at this one then?

As far as I know, NO.

I note demolition and site clearance has taken place on Skinner Lane for 20/20.

Leeds to have £36m property makeover

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aboutproperty.co.uk
Tuesday, 19 Sep 2006 10:12

20/20 House, Leeds

More than 250 new residential properties and 12,000 square feet of commercial office space are to be constructed in Leeds city centre.

Land on Skinner Lane will be developed in a £36 million build that will include 197 one and two-bed apartments and a number of innovative small apartments, which the developers are calling 'micropods'.

The multi-functional micropods utilise the small space with wet rooms, fold-down beds and concealed kitchens.

The 20/20 project is the latest in a series of regeneration initiatives for the city, and the build is to include landscaped gardens, a stream as well as offering views over the city for some residents.

The redevelopment is being led by the Morris Properties Group, which has experience in regenerating inner city locations.

Mark Ellis, Morris Properties’ development director, comments: “Tenants are becoming increasingly astute and demanding in what they expect from their living environment.

"This new development, with its innovative micropod designs and luxury apartments will give residents everything they need to meet the demands of their busy, modern lifestyles.”

20/20 House is located in an area of redevelopment in Eastgate and Harewood, in the north of the city, where a further £700 million development has been proposed, led by Leeds Partnership. ..

Plenty of activity on site. They have a drilling rig on site, probably for a crane or 2. This will be a welcome addition to the Northern Quarter which is really taking off as a new residential area with many apartments already built or planned.

The 15 storey application has re-appeared just down the road from Skinner Lane. Starting to become quite a popular area now.

Still the arse end of town though!

mabgate could be really nice in a few years time, I notice they are renovating the old pub at the end next to the A64 (where it joins back to Regent Street). Currently quite grim, seems to be a fairly multicultural area which is good, tower blocks are really grim though.

Where did the term 'Northern Quarter' come from anyway and how many of them is there other than in Manchester and Leeds. Is it I presume a trendy estate agents word used to describe what is really known as Little London, Mabgate and Sheepscar although its obvious why they are doing this its just that the names a bit vague and daft in my opinion. Is it just residential developments in this area or is there any more varied plans for something like offices and couldn't they try something similar to Holbeck Urban Village in this end of town?

No, since the marketing of Leeds started in about 2000, the quarters have been given particular names (even though they were always considered that name anyway). Northern Quarter (or civic quarter sometimes) is the bit North of the Headrow, around Millennium Square etc. Theres the retail quarter around Briggate, Central Sq.., Financial Quarter (or sometimes the professional quarter, office quarter, business quarter) is the bit around Park Row, Cultural Quarter on Quarry Hill, Exchange Quarter around the CornX/The Calls (sometimes just 'calls district' or somin like that). Riverside is just riverside I think =/. All the names are variable really- the northern quarter at the moment is more cultural than Quarry Hill..

The Northen Quarter is mostly what used to be called the Leylands.

Still the arse end of town though!

The light industrial units behind Merchants House and Mackintosh House should hopefully be redeveloped in due course. With Crispin Lofts (if the apart-hotel concept gets going), and redevelopment of British Gas tower I think the location is gaining further impetus, but the key scheme will be Harewood/Eastgate which will reinvent, and bring so many more people to this end of town.

I've banged on about this before, but gems like the Reliance and Hansas really help this area massively. If they weren't there, well, I'd agree with the 'arse end' of town comment.

Wouldn't fancy living opposite Pratt's furniture house to be fair - strange location for residential there on Regents Street.

An update about this development, from YP (http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=1299&ArticleID=1905835):

Bank backs major city development
Greg Wright

THE BANK of Ireland is backing a ?38m development of apartments and office space in Leeds's Northern Quarter.
It is the second project in the area to be funded by the bank, and brings its total investment in property development in Leeds to more than ?150m.
20/20 House, on Skinner Lane, is described as a "dynamic, multi-purpose concept" by the developer Morris Properties Group.
It will consist of 12,000 sq ft of office space at ground-floor level and 272 apartments, including 30 social housing units to be managed by Northern Counties Housing Association.
The private apartments will be a mix of one- and two-bed units and include 75 "smart pads", studio apartments designed to appeal to buyers with a smaller budget and with prices below the ?120,000 stamp duty threshold.
The development will include the Lady Beck watercourse as a key feature and it will also have extensive landscaping, public space and car parking.
The office space has been pre-sold, and David McLean Contractors have started construction work, with completion due in 2008.
Leeds-based Morris Properties Group was established by Simon Morris in 1996, originally focusing on conversions but later moving into new-build projects designed for young professionals and students.
Bank of Ireland has also funded the development of 152 apartments on Regent Street, next to the 20:20 site.
David Service, head of property for Yorkshire and the North-East, who is based at the bank's Leeds office, said: "Morris Properties Group is a highly respected developer with an in-depth knowledge of the local market and a successful track record in carrying out projects of this type.
"Leeds commands some of the highest property prices outside London. The Northern Quarter area is known as a fashionable up-and-coming district offering more affordable accommodation than the core city area, so this development is likely to see high demand, not only from investors but also key workers.
"The Bank of Ireland invests heavily in property development in Leeds and Yorkshire and is keen to support projects of this type."
In September, Bank of Ireland Private Banking revealed it had bought the Victoria Quarter Shopping Arcade, in Leeds, on behalf of private clients, in a deal worth ?126.1m.
30 November 2006

Verto is due to start any time now, it was due to commence in November, maybe it has already for all I know. I think it's on Northern Street.

http://www.aboutproperty.co.uk/photo/verto-development-leeds-ap-only-$12266$180.jpg

There's a lot of steelwork going up on this site now (shame it's a bit far from the city centre to get some pics). While it's not highrise, it's much bigger than the website leads you to believe.

Now that the steelwork is finally complete, something else has become apparent, which is that there is another block going up the other side of Millwright Street. Originally I thought this was part of 20/20 but the building features nowhere in the renders for the development. I've also just noticed what JOliver posted on 1 Dec last year that the Bank of Ireland is funding a block of 152 flats next to the 20/20 site. Could this be it?

I also noticed that work's been going on for some time on Verto, Morris Properties development further up Skinner Lane from 20/20. Rob posted a render of this but there don't seem to be any further images on Morris's website. Shed KM are the architects but their website is one of the most frustratingly obscure I've ever come across.

We've had a few comments from people expressing some reservations about the attractiveness of this area for potential residents but the flats are obviously being sold. The steelwork's now going up on the final, tallest part of the Regents Park House development.

The following appeared in an article about Leeds in the Daily Telegraph on 1st March :-


Last year work started on Verto, a north Leeds development consisting of 104 modern garden-apartments from Morris Properties, which is also developing 20/20 House, a £36million scheme in the centre. Verto is part of a £700 million proposal by Leeds Partnership, transforming the northern end of the city. Housebuilder Strata sees Leeds as a key location where it can build for young families.

Had a wander up to look at this 20/20 House, and all the new developments up North Street, Concord Street etc. The photo below shows how close to Burmantofts it is. The old building on the left is a T.A. barracks.

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Looks a little like the 1930s photos of Quarry Hill flats going up

Looks a little like the 1930s photos of Quarry Hill flats going up

Oh dear, please don't say that !

Had a wander up to look at this 20/20 House, and all the new developments up North Street, Concord Street etc. The photo below shows how close to Burmantofts it is. The old building on the left is a T.A. barracks.

It is nearer to the old Leylands. Also on the other side of Skinner Lane lay the district called Newtown. Of course these old names will be soon be forgotten and it will now have the swanky sounding name of Northern Quarter !

why would anyone in their right mind want to buy a flat for 150 - 250 k here??? its not even central? Could buy a bigger flat in the Burmantofts (not that you would want to) for less than half the price!!! Do investors actually know where they are buying if they are from out of town. I think not. Any owner occupiers from the Leeds area would not purchase here if the had that kind of money as there are so many other quality, more central developments than this.

The latest state of play at 20/20 House.



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It's a very large development for this part of town but there are other, smaller residential developments sprining up. For example, just round the corner from 20/20, along Mabgate you have this nice conversion:



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Then, at the other end of Mabgate, the old pub is being converted with some new build alongside:



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Originally Posted by Rob
Had a wander up to look at this 20/20 House, and all the new developments up North Street, Concord Street etc. The photo below shows how close to Burmantofts it is. The old building on the left is a T.A. barracks.

It is nearer to the old Leylands. Also on the other side of Skinner Lane lay the district called Newtown. Of course these old names will be soon be forgotten and it will now have the swanky sounding name of Northern Quarter !

I think the name for the T.A barracks was Carlton, Would that be a old place name for the area as well Fred ?

great photo update aviator. It think the City of Mabgate development is being done by the people behind the 'greenhouse' scheme in Beeston.

Always a bit put off by Regents Street, but with these little development going on, and Harewood / Eastgate on the doorstep the areas really coming along as a cheaper, alternative City living location. I suspect the developers have been so bullish because Harewood / Eastgate is going to transform this side of the City Centre.

I think the name for the T.A barracks was Carlton, Would that be a old place name for the area as well Fred ?

No. Carlton Barracks is off Claypit Lane. Near there is Carlton Hill where many long years ago there used to be a cinema, The Carlton, where at the age of about three or four I paid my very first visit to the 'pictures' - as we used to call films in those days. I enjoyed the experience hugely - until the lights went off. I hadn't been warned about that and I howled so much that I had to be taken home by my poor sister who had taken me - and she was only aged about ten at the time!

I think the name for the T.A barracks was Carlton, Would that be a old place name for the area as well Fred ?

I think that's Churchill Barracks on Skinner Lane, some infantry regiment (Yorkshire Regiment or something).

Carlton Barracks is on Carlton Gate off Clay Pit Lane. It is a Royal Artillery T.A. barracks, and one of the few artillery units that still have the 105mm light artillery guns (a battery of six is operated and kept there, along with their 4x4 towing tractors, supporting trucks etc.) and regular operations involve air transport by Chinook.

Carlton Barracks is on Carlton Gate off Clay Pit Lane.

That's what I said in # 51, but thanks for the extra details.

Yes, just agreeing with you and filling in for a bit of interest.

20/20 House yesterday. It doesn't take a genius to work out that Kwikfit's tenure of its current premises probably won't extend more than a few years given the amount of development on the go in this area.



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Verto is due to start any time now, it was due to commence in November, maybe it has already for all I know. I think it's on Northern Street.

http://www.aboutproperty.co.uk/photo/verto-development-leeds-ap-only-$12266$180.jpg

How near is verto to this? And is it even still on seen as your december start seems to have been pushed back? Any maps? Plus this area is getting quite dense now, especially compared to what it used to be and is this not roughly the area where the simpson tower is proposed?

How near is verto to this? And is it even still on seen as your december start seems to have been pushed back? Any maps? Plus this area is getting quite dense now, especially compared to what it used to be and is this not roughly the area where the simpson tower is proposed?

20/20 House is on Skinner Lane, almost at the corner of Regent Street. Verto is, or will be, 200-300 metres further along Skinner Lane hading up towards North Street.

This is the site as it was last weekend; the building that used to stand on the corner was demolished a few weeks ago.


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So, not too much happening on the site of Verto but back near to 20/20 House is another development, also by Morris Properties. This one comprises two blocks on either side of Millwright Street. The first view is from Regent Street (you can just see 20/20 House to the left of the photo). Although it's nothing startling architecturally, I did like the use of the blue tiles and the curved corner balconies. And the cypresses across the street will be quite a feature in a few years if they survive the petrol fumes from the filling station beyond.



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There's still plenty of work to do along the rest of Millwright Street:



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Thanks for the brilliant photos, Aviator. I really like 20/20 House.

There's still plenty of work to do along the rest of Millwright Street:
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Hmm, hopefully not too much work. This area is becoming really exciting, but I don't think it would be as exciting if it was all new build. Some more conversions of existing buildings in the style of the City Of Mabgate would be welcome (and new builds like Tao). Might be wishful thinking, but those old industrial premises give the area much of it's character. Hopefully the right balance can be struck.

cheap and nasty.

Hmm, hopefully not too much work. This area is becoming really exciting, but I don't think it would be as exciting if it was all new build. Some more conversions of existing buildings in the style of the City Of Mabgate would be welcome (and new builds like Tao). Might be wishful thinking, but those old industrial premises give the area much of it's character. Hopefully the right balance can be struck.


I quite agree with you. One wonderful example of a conversion opportunity lies further along Mabgate. It's the Hope Foundry which I'd never seen or heard until I stumbled across it the other day.



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I think that main gateway with its lion heads is quite splendid. Imagine seeing the whole of the street frontage restored and the gateway opened up to give views of some new build residential beyond with a nice courtyard garden.

Away from my wishful thinking, though, there are plans afoot for the other side of the street. Plans are being drawn up for a large mixed-use development and a pre-application presentation was made the the last meeting of the City Centre Plans Panel.

Went down this part of town today - latest progress on 20/20
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Also the Pub conversion is nearly done:
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Nice pics there, harryd. I especially like that bit of infill next to the pub.

Also the Pub conversion is nearly done:
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WOW I just love it.

Funny that nobody ventures very often to this part of town. Bit by bit, though, the developments around here are helping to reconnect inner-city areas back to the city centre.

Anyway, back to 20/20 House, the wraps are coming off.



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Good. Looks very good. The Mabgate area is slowly becoming one of the best in the city; I hope progress continues in this style and it doesn't suffer with cheap developments. I'd love to see a new dense residential district all along Regent Street and up both side of Roseville Road - I know there are plans for Kirkstall Road to become a boulevard but I think Roseville Road would be even better. Nobody would really miss the self-storage warehouses and garages along there, and it'd connect Harehills much more to the city centre.

I wouldn't go as far as "Best in the city", but it's certainly on the up! I don't think the focus should be too much on residential in this area though. Low intensity, sensitive development of entertainment facilities to create a second urban village for Leeds would be good here.

Have the windows been boarded up already? Well that's a bit quick...

Now, if only someone would sign up to this forum and tell us what is really going on down Roseville Road. I'd like to think there were some retail opportunities down here but I haven't heard anything lately. Maybe we'll be lucky and a new member will post this information soon?

Now, if only someone would sign up to this forum and tell us what is really going on down Roseville Road. I'd like to think there were some retail opportunities down here but I haven't heard anything lately. Maybe we'll be lucky and a new member will post this information soon?

Post of the year!

A month ago I said the wraps were coming off. I think I was a bit optimistic :ohno:



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Now, if only someone would sign up to this forum and tell us what is really going on down Roseville Road. I'd like to think there were some retail opportunities down here but I haven't heard anything lately. Maybe we'll be lucky and a new member will post this information soon?

I'll let you know if I come across it in my line of work! We tend to see all that sort of stuff in my department.

I'll let you know if I come across it in my line of work! We tend to see all that sort of stuff in my department.Thanks Dan. Welcome to the forum! I hope your exile isn't too painful for you :)

Thanks Dan. Welcome to the forum! I hope your exile isn't too painful for you :)

heh, thanks :)

No to be honest I love Leeds - I graduated from Leeds Uni last summer and I've ended up getting a job at Leeds City Council in the Business & Enterprise team, so we deal with economic development, business support, city marketing etc. These forums are very interesting, they tend to crop up a lot when I'm doing a spot of research!

I was down in Essex last week (centre of Romford). I must say, with utmost respect to anyone from Essex, not everything shines brighter in the South East as the media makes out. I don't think this country is that different from one end to the other, and certainly Romford could have been Hull, Middlesborough, Grimsby or any of the reportedly less succesful places if you didn't know where you were. Having said that, I thought it was fine, it was market day and full of character second to none; we got a bacon butty and tea for about half the price that I've ever paid in the north which was incredible, I had a good day all round.

I didn't like Eastbourne as much as Harrogate. I think that the south lacks diversity, in that London is the only major city compared to several in the north. This is backed up by many national parks in the north; one in the south (New Forest). Road transport is also better in the north, outside London.

I was down in Essex last week (centre of Romford). I must say, with utmost respect to anyone from Essex, not everything shines brighter in the South East as the media makes out. I don't think this country is that different from one end to the other, and certainly Romford could have been Hull, Middlesborough, Grimsby or any of the reportedly less succesful places if you didn't know where you were. Having said that, I thought it was fine, it was market day and full of character second to none; we got a bacon butty and tea for about half the price that I've ever paid in the north which was incredible, I had a good day all round.

Essex is definitely a county of extremes - it's one of the richest counties in the country, is in the wealthy commuter belt and has some absolutely beautiful countryside and coast. However at the same time it's got some very run-down areas - just look at Romford, Tilbury, Basildon (aka Basildump/Bas Vegas), Stanford-Le-Hope (aka Stanford-no-Hope). My hometown Southend is much the same - it's a great town in many aspects and has lots of beautiful parts of it, but suffers a lot of the same social problems as most of the UK's seaside towns.

I'm enjoying the insights gained from living in the north, though I wouldn't swap my southern status for all the mushy peas in the world :)

I was down in Essex last week (centre of Romford). I must say, with utmost respect to anyone from Essex, not everything shines brighter in the South East as the media makes out. I don't think this country is that different from one end to the other, and certainly Romford could have been Hull, Middlesborough, Grimsby or any of the reportedly less succesful places if you didn't know where you were. Having said that, I thought it was fine, it was market day and full of character second to none; we got a bacon butty and tea for about half the price that I've ever paid in the north which was incredible, I had a good day all round.

romford and dagenham are like northern enclaves down south. Same type of people too.

Dartford's similar, I went there a couple of years back; slightly run down town but with a lot of character (although it was a very short distance to a very exclusive part where I was meeting someone).

romford and dagenham are like northern enclaves down south. Same type of people too.

This thread could turn nasty.
Not the best way to greet a new member, I'm sure.

This thread won't turn nasty, what Wiggley said could have been a compliment from some points of view. The point I was making earlier is that I found it refreshing and pleasing to see more characterful and down to earth 'northern' type people and atmosphere in parts of East London.

EssexDan is of course most welcome, and I'm sure would say if he considers anything we add here is in any way disrespectful.

Don't worry; on the contrary I'd be the first to admit that Romford and Dagenham are pretty dire areas. I tend to think of them as East London though, as they're London Boroughs :)

and essexdan86 isnt a "new" member per se (btw welcome dan! :) )

he used to be on here years ago defending leeds in the city talk threads.

its funny tho coz my name is dan too, and im from essex, and i use the city talk threads a lot now. *hums the twilight zone music*

There .. one big happy family :grouphug:

More of the wraps coming off:



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The former Renault garage and dealership at the corner of Skinner Lane and Regent Street closed last year. Its future has been the cause of some discussion on the Leeds forum. We now have a paper going to next week's meeting of the City Centre Plans Panel for discussion.

Briefly, KW Linfoot are proposing a large development targeted at key workers and their pre-application proposal will be up for discussion. Below is a summary of what the proposed development would contain.


3. Proposals
The proposal is for a mix-use scheme which is predominantly made up of residential accommodation for Key Workers (the concept of the ‘Key Workers’ development is explained in full in a separate report, presented at this panel). The development comprises 800 residential units, 1178 sq m of office (B1) space, and 273 parking spaces. The development will have extensive communal facilities for the residents such as a gym, laundrette, convenience store and café bar, which are located on the ground and first floors, within the proposed building which front Regent Street. The main buildings which front Regent Street/ Skinner Lane is 7 storeys in height with the top floor being set back from the main façade.

The residential units are described as smart pads and studio’s, which are typically 23.2 and 29.77 sq m in area. The units have floor to ceiling windows with no balconies. The development comprises of 3 main buildings located at Regent Street, Skinner Lane, and Muushroom Street frontages. It is also proposed to open up Lady Beck which runs through the site. Parking is located at ground floor level with access from Skinner Lane. The proposed layout includes 2 areas of communal external space which are to be landscaped; these areas are located above the ground floor parking level.

The development would face the 20/20 development which is nearing completion on Skinner Lane and would be of roughly the same height (in the shot below you can just see the edge of the Renault building on the left of the picture).



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