View Full Version : What city in europe has the most graffiti?


SkyscraperGuy
June 4th, 2005, 06:10 PM
What city in europe do you think has the most graffiti?

I went to Brussels the other day, and there was tons of graffiti every where, i couldnt believe it, i thought london was bad. So i say brussels. What do you think?

DarkLite
June 4th, 2005, 06:11 PM
london

eklips
June 4th, 2005, 06:15 PM
Depends, do you mean tags, grafiti, or both?

SkyscraperGuy
June 4th, 2005, 06:21 PM
Both.

samsonyuen
June 4th, 2005, 06:34 PM
London
Paris' Métro?

Küsel
June 4th, 2005, 06:37 PM
Here in the center you wouldn't find a house or building without Graffiti ;)

beta29
June 4th, 2005, 07:19 PM
BERLIN is the capital of Graffiti, sorry guys but by far!

Skylandman
June 4th, 2005, 07:45 PM
yep, Berlin by far. You don´t really know what "Graffitis everywhere" means until you travel to Berlin.

ranny fash
June 4th, 2005, 08:40 PM
all uk cities have loads of graf, but from what ive seen dutch cities have more.
i love graffiti, it always brightens up a dull wall or building. best place is beside railways and on trains, why do people complain about this? trains and railways look ugly and boring until theyve been smartened up with a bit of graf.

beta29
June 4th, 2005, 08:46 PM
graffiti is ok but the tags are shit and there are lot more tags than really nice graffiti!!

AzN8oi
June 4th, 2005, 09:00 PM
lol Madrid has some graffiti :x

DarkLite
June 4th, 2005, 09:42 PM
have you been to madrid, AzN8oi?? just want to see

eddyk
June 4th, 2005, 09:45 PM
In order

Paris
London
Berlin
Madrid
and the rest of the capital cities...

SkyscraperGuy
June 4th, 2005, 09:54 PM
you can post pics as well if u like

AzN8oi
June 4th, 2005, 10:01 PM
Joaquin - Sí, he ido a Madrid pero mis fotos están a la computadora de mi amigo. Pues... cuando las tengo, las voy a poner aquí.

Motul
June 4th, 2005, 10:06 PM
Yes, Berlin is the first city that pops into mind...

Küsel
June 4th, 2005, 10:08 PM
Berlin is really top - but I don't know if it beats Paris... but I was not in either city in the last 15 years :(

AzN8oi
June 4th, 2005, 10:11 PM
Never mind -- I forgot I put SOME of the pics on my site.

http://www.pandaren.org/azn8oi/spain/ from about... IMG1003 - 1008 . . .

and that's just stuff from the highway on the way to the city from the airport. Feel free to look at whatever you want.

AzN8oi
June 4th, 2005, 10:20 PM
http://pandaren.org/azn8oi/graf.JPG

Some graffiti in a small town along the way to Sevilla . . . Don't remember the name of the town but it had this building in it.

http://pandaren.org/azn8oi/neo.JPG

willo
June 5th, 2005, 12:03 AM
^^^madrid is not sevilla. anyway madrid is not really a city with many graffiti comparing to other cities.

anyway, berlin is the king of graffiti

scorpion
June 5th, 2005, 02:10 AM
graffiti = societal cancer

Desven
June 5th, 2005, 01:26 PM
i think you can't say that this city or this city has the most graffiti in europe,but i think it is either paris,london or berlin!

beta29
June 5th, 2005, 01:33 PM
So, common let´s count the tags and bombings in each city, then we will know! :D :D

simadon
June 5th, 2005, 02:20 PM
Milan, Rome(as a country, Italy by far) or Berlin

Jose Luis
June 5th, 2005, 05:05 PM
I think Berlin wins this one easily
http://www.graffiti.org/berlin/berlin19.jpg

TallBox
June 5th, 2005, 05:13 PM
London or Paris

beta29
June 5th, 2005, 05:27 PM
So, here some Berlin graffiti pages for those who like it:
1. www.graffitibox.de
2. www.artistz.de
3. www.graffiti.rockt.de
4. www.liquidz.de
.......

Urban Girl
June 5th, 2005, 06:54 PM
Berlin for sure

ranny fash
June 5th, 2005, 11:23 PM
why does everyone just name the big capital cities?!

isnt it more likely that it will be a smaller city somewhere, and not necessarily london, berlin, paris etc?

nick_taylor
June 6th, 2005, 12:22 AM
Berlin probably; some of the places where graffiti has been 'painted' is pretty amazing. When travelling along the S-Bahn generally eastwards, there is on the old socialist housing blocks some crazy graffiti (up to several stories in height). There is also the Berlin Wall, but thats more a collect of art, except for a few spots.

eddyk
June 6th, 2005, 01:01 AM
Derry...

At the end of 100's of houses vandels have had there way!

TeKnO_Lx
June 6th, 2005, 01:06 AM
Lisbon has lots of tags especialy in Bairro Alto it makes me desguting!!
i think all taggers should be in jail

Justme
June 6th, 2005, 09:47 AM
I absolutely despise graffiti.

Anyway, of cause there is quite a bit in London, but is seems restricted to area's around train lines and poorer neighbourhoods. Of cause you can find it in nice parts of town as well, but it isn't that much. There is more now than in the past, but I remember visiting London many times when I was still living in Sydney, and noticed how little graffiti London had compared to Sydney then.

When I first arrived in Frankfurt 5 years ago, the level of graffiti was shocking. Fortunately it has cleaned up a bit since then, but I still see more graffiti in Frankfurt than in London.

Berlin certainly had more than Frankfurt.

But the city that shocked me the most was Budapest. Except for the recently renovated absoulte central part of town, the rest of the city seemed almost destroyed by graffiti. It covers every possible space on nearly every building you can find - I was quite sadened by this. But the lack of much new graffiti in the area's recently renovated is a sign of hope that things are getting better now.

Personally, I think graffiti artists should do time in jail, or hard labour cleaning off their and other people's tags. There should also be rewards to nap these idiots, and I think if a few big ones are taken down, the graffiti in cities will drop significantly.

Don't get me wrong. I absolutely loved Budapest as a city, but the destruction by graffiti is shocking.

Examples of an underpass
http://www.euxus.com/budapest/b2/49280189-budapest-graffiti.jpg

And typical example of how beautiful old buildings are totally defaced. This is what almost all buildings look like before renovation.
http://www.petehill.demon.co.uk/stock/budapest/images/Graffiti.jpg
http://www.homestead.com/cdzuba/files/Hunggraffiti.JPG

beta29
June 6th, 2005, 08:08 PM
Berlin is just on the same level as Budapest with this pics. Someone ever been to East-Berlin???
The most buildings look like on this pics. Also you can see very crazy graffiti on high houses.
The worst of all is the S-bahn ring. No house without graffiti, very sad to see this shit!

beta29
June 6th, 2005, 08:13 PM
btw. the most graffitis in Hungary, Italy, Spain, France, GB... are done by German sprayers!
But also a lot of German Graffiti is done by foreign sprayers.
I heard that you are nothing in the sprayer scene if you never have sprayed in Berlin!

Kaene
June 8th, 2005, 10:29 AM
I love Berlin!
But I hate ugly tags!
Those damn bastards have ruined the city with that crap!
It´s the same thing here in Stockholm!
It´s the ugliest thing in the world!
Kick those bastards out of this world!
:bash: :bash: :bash:

Automatic Lover
June 8th, 2005, 11:07 AM
Like people say, I think graffiti are art, tags are crap. Graffiti just on old decadent walls, of course not on important buildings where they aren't suitable.

Accura4Matalan
June 8th, 2005, 12:39 PM
Everywhere on the continent seems pretty bad. I thought Léon was appalling.

NorthStar77
June 8th, 2005, 01:00 PM
Apart from the underpass to Margit Island, I haven't noticed much grafitti in Budapest, but I think it is because I'm so used to it from Oslo that I don't notice it.

Sitback
June 8th, 2005, 01:32 PM
There is lots of Grafitti in the East End of London and the grafitti on the Thameslink down towards Hendon, Kentish Town up to Kings Cross is amazing. But the government does a good job here of keeping it to a reasonable level. Lots of Graffiti in Manchester I remember.

Cee_em_bee
June 8th, 2005, 03:17 PM
http://img295.echo.cx/img295/3227/europeapriladam30271os.jpg
http://img295.echo.cx/img295/4349/europeapriladam30291ts.jpg
http://img295.echo.cx/img295/3627/europeapriladam30310ul.jpg
http://img295.echo.cx/img295/3828/europeapriladam30326yp.jpg
http://img295.echo.cx/img295/5562/europeapriladam30342nh.jpg
http://img292.echo.cx/img292/9468/europeapriladam20982hm.jpg
http://img295.echo.cx/img295/3664/europeapriladam30079co.jpg
http://img295.echo.cx/img295/1623/europeapriladam30196hx.jpg

fuck the police!! :D

ranny fash
June 8th, 2005, 11:29 PM
quality shit right there ^. why would anyone seriously think that those places looked nicer before theyd been sprayed on?? its an absolute mystery to me. graf is awesome!

NorthStar77
June 9th, 2005, 09:29 AM
Some graffiti in Oslo, taken by me.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/akerselva/P1010038.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/akerselva/P1010037.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/akerselva/P1010036.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/akerselva/P1010034.jpg

ranny fash
June 10th, 2005, 01:25 AM
^ thats brilliant! all of it.

Cee_em_bee
June 10th, 2005, 01:59 AM
I understand where people come from though, toy taggers do make it hard for good graff to get appreciated.

Caustic
June 10th, 2005, 02:46 AM
I am pretty sure this is the place with the highest density of graffiti (murales) in the world. Orgosolo, in the island of Sardinia (Italy), has a population of 4900 and about 150-200 graffiti. It is a very peculiar place, as the concept of "private property" was unknown to its inhabitants until Italy became united in 1861. (In the latest local elections, the centre-left party won with 86% of the votes)

http://www.derleguan.com/sardinien2003-Bilder/120.jpg

http://www.enzorosso.com/varie/i_varie2/var087a.jpg

http://www.enzorosso.com/varie/i_varie2/var093a.jpg

http://www.enzorosso.com/varie/i_varie2/var098a.jpg

http://www.enzorosso.com/varie/i_varie2/var124.jpg

http://www.enzorosso.com/varie/i_varie3/var148.jpg

http://www.enzorosso.com/varie/i_varie3/var174.jpg

http://www.schule.bremen.de/places/uh/respect/fotos/2003_sassari/bilder/Sard_090.JPG

http://www.schule.bremen.de/places/uh/respect/fotos/2003_sassari/bilder/Sard_085.JPG

http://www.schule.bremen.de/places/uh/respect/fotos/2003_sassari/bilder/Sard_090.JPG

http://www.schule.bremen.de/places/uh/respect/fotos/2003_sassari/bilder/Sard_092.JPG

http://www.schule.bremen.de/places/uh/respect/fotos/2003_sassari/bilder/Sard_093.JPG

"You can't obtain people's rights with savagery"

http://www.schule.bremen.de/places/uh/respect/fotos/2003_sassari/bilder/Sard_099.JPG

http://www.schule.bremen.de/places/uh/respect/fotos/2003_sassari/bilder/Sard_107.JPG

http://www.schule.bremen.de/places/uh/respect/fotos/2003_sassari/bilder/Sard_106.JPG

http://www.schule.bremen.de/places/uh/respect/fotos/2003_sassari/bilder/Sard_111.JPG

http://www.schule.bremen.de/places/uh/respect/fotos/2003_sassari/bilder/Sard_120.JPG

http://www.schule.bremen.de/places/uh/respect/fotos/2003_sassari/bilder/Sard_132.JPG

http://www.schule.bremen.de/places/uh/respect/fotos/2003_sassari/bilder/Sard_133.JPG

http://www.schule.bremen.de/places/uh/respect/fotos/2003_sassari/bilder/Sard_135.JPG

http://www.piegaedivora.it/sardegna153.jpg

rufi
June 10th, 2005, 04:51 AM
And typical example of how beautiful old buildings are totally defaced. This is what almost all buildings look like before renovation.
http://www.petehill.demon.co.uk/stock/budapest/images/Graffiti.jpg
http://www.homestead.com/cdzuba/files/Hunggraffiti.JPG
that's just disgusting...

Sitback
June 11th, 2005, 08:52 PM
Here is some London Graf.

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/adam_neate_piece.jpg

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/adam_neate_southbank.jpg

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/deva_station.jpg

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/pglondonGRAFFITIspraydemons.jpg

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/pglondonGRAFFITItwickcans.jpg

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/pgphotoGRAFFITItwickstairs.jpg

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/feltham_circles_wall.jpg

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/Twickenham_wall.jpg

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/pglondonGRAFFITIfeltham1.jpg

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/pgphotoGRAFFITIuxbridge.jpg

Sitback
June 11th, 2005, 09:00 PM
And some more London Graf by less talented artists.

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/text_graffiti_all_you_need_is_love.jpg

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/freehand_frankenstein.jpg

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/freehand_phone_box.jpg

http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photos/graffiti_freehand_doorway.jpg

Jose Luis
June 11th, 2005, 09:11 PM
some of them are damn good

Hed Kandi
June 12th, 2005, 12:08 PM
I think there is not much difference in all the cities accross europe.
It depends on how many time a city council will start a cleanup.
I know amsterdam a few years ago was filled with grafitti all over town.
Now a days only the subway and train tracks are loaded with grafs.
Same as some old housing projects which will be demolished or are subjected to renovation soon.

The question should be which city has the worst city counsil.