View Full Version : Kowloon Waterfront - Sea of Highrises Blocks View


hkskyline
June 6th, 2005, 04:58 AM
Sea views gone with the wind
Hong Kong Standard
June 6, 2005

http://www.pbase.com/pan/image/25573122.jpg
The view from the towers near Olympic station.
http://www.pbase.com/pan/scenes_hong_kong_urban

In the early years of the last century, Kowloon's Walled City was considered an affront to all that was good in Hong Kong.

Today, say Kowloon residents, there is instead a Walled Seafront, which ruins the harbor view they once treasured, and also results in pollution because the new buildings block the air flow.

While the British were blamed for ignoring the lawless Walled City, the SAR government is now accused of failing to protect the once magnificent sea views from the works of developers.

Along the harbor front of west Kowloon, there are several clusters of wide, tall wall-like buildings that obstruct the harbor views that long-time residents once enjoyed.

One development, Hampton Place, is a cluster of three 57-story towers.

Beside it are the nine towers of Island Harborview along the Tai Kok Tsui waterfront, each rising 40 to 45 stories.

Lai Shiu-Nin, 73, who has lived in Tai Kok Tsui for 35 years, told The Standard the landscape had changed dramatically over the past decade, with his biggest loss being the enchanting harbor views he once enjoyed.

"Those were the days when I could see the beautiful harbor. Now, I can see nothing but giant buildings," he said.

Lai said the flow of air to the 40,000 residents in the area has also been affected.

"Air pollution is now a huge problem in this district and this is our major concern," he said.

"We urged the government to monitor the building of high-rises in the area, but they ignore our voices."

Yau Tsim Mong district councillor Lam Ho-yeung said many residents are angry over the issue of the blocking of harbor views by the tall buildings.

"It is not fair because the residents of old Tai Kok Tsui have been not allowed to continue to enjoy the natural beauty of Victoria Harbor," he said.

He said the council has asked the government to follow the urban design guidelines, but so far no action has been taken.

A urban design guidelines for Hong Kong published by the Planning Department in 2002 suggests that infrastructure projects that create visual and physical barriers should be avoided.

It also says buildings should not have a wall-like effect and that waterfront buildings should maintain visual permeability to the harbour.

Taller developments should be located inland with lower developments on the waterfront.

The guidelines further suggest that buildings should provide view corridors or breezeways and pedestrian linkages to the waterfront.

In the first report on sustainable development strategy issued by the Council for Sustainable Development last week, it was noted that guidelines governing sustainable urban planning and design should be regularly reviewed with regard to issues such as buildings affecting view corridors or restricting air flow, and the need to proceed in a manner consistent with the overall sustainable development strategy for Hong Kong.

"The claim of sustainable development is virtually meaningless and the guidelines are toothless," another Tai Kok Tsui resident, Au Yeung Chi-shing, told The Standard.

"All we know is that the waterfront will soon be blocked by giant walls," he said.

"The developers want to maximise their profits and pay little attention to the environmental impact." Au Yeung said.

"The government, as a gatekeeper, should stick to the guidelines. However, the government does not follow what it says and that is ridiculous." Au Yeung said.

"Some residents living in Tai Kok Tsui told me they can hardly see the sun before 3.30 in the afternoon.

"The harbor, sunlight and the wind are public assets and all should be able to enjoy it."

Two weeks ago, a concern group Citizen Envisioning@Harbor urged the government to prevent wall-like structures being developed at the last waterfront site in North Point.

"There is no more reclamation, so we need to take great care of the last remaining land around the harbor,"said Albert Lai, group convenor and chairman of the Conservancy Association.

According to Housing, Planning and Lands Bureau, there are only two remaining harbor sites on the application list - the 1.47-hectare former Government Supplies Depot in Oil Street, North Point, and a plot of 1.14 hectares in Hoi Fai Road, West Kowloon Reclamation area-both of which are expected to be sold soon.

Raymond Lee, who is responsible for Kowloon district in the Planning Department told The Standard the urban design guidelines are for reference only and are not binding on developers.

He said the only way a height limit can be imposed is to include the area in the outline zoning plan but that this was a slow process.

Michael Ma, another planning officer in the department who is in charge of the West Kowloon area, argued that placing height restrictions conflicts with the principle of liberal economic development.

Besides, there is no turning back in some situations.

"The urban design guidelines came out [in 2002] after the land had been developed. We cannot change the things that have happened," said Ma.

He denied the guidelines are toothless, and said it takes time to translate principle into practice.

"It [West Kowloon] is not our priority at the moment compared with Kwun Tong and Kai Tak," he said.

He also described as a "subjective judgment" the views of those who claimed their views of the harbor are being blocked.

"When the government sells land, there is no guarantee that the sea view will be preserved. That is only the personal expectations of the buyers." said Ma.

But Citizen Envisioning@Harbor's Lai said the remaining open waterfront sites should be developed sensibly with provisions for public space. "Otherwise repeated commitments by the Secretary for Planning to return the harbor to the people will be nothing but empty promises."

scorpion
June 6th, 2005, 07:09 AM
these people need to BROADEN their minds (way) beyond some faint memory of yesteryear...

spicytimothy
June 6th, 2005, 08:50 AM
these are a bunch of people who is SELFISH AND MONEY-HUNGRY. The ONLY reason they're so passionate about this, I can ASSURE u, is because the lack of harbor-view DRAMATICALLY LOWER their property's value. Simple as that. These are the rich people who paid lots of money for the harbor view, and are pissed that when they resell their flats they aren't getting what they demanded.

The world advances everyday, and Hong Kong gets more and more crowded. Don't bitch about losing a view. Truth is, when their own buildings were built, someone elses' view was destroyed by giving u yours. Think about it.

EricIsHim
June 7th, 2005, 10:34 PM
those buildings are making the harbour looks worst. i wish i could take them all down.

if people are saying reclaimation for parks and underground tunnel is bad, fix this damn highrise problem, too!!!!!!!!! eventually, parks and solving problems are really for all hong konger; not this "wall." the harbour belongs to all hong konger.

spicytimothy
June 8th, 2005, 02:38 AM
those buildings are making the harbour looks worst. i wish i could take them all down.

if people are saying reclaimation for parks and underground tunnel is bad, fix this damn highrise problem, too!!!!!!!!! eventually, parks and solving problems are really for all hong konger; not this "wall." the harbour belongs to all hong konger.

I think certain ppl have to get something staight: the habor belongs to all Hong Konger, but the VIEW OF IT does not! What's the difference between building parks so that those that currently has a view keeps the view, and building newer taller buildings and let THOSE new residents have a view? NOTHING except those that are protesting lost their previous $$$-shot view.

Whether those buildings look good or not is a personal matter. There're tons of ppl here ready to fight u to death for ur comment on how they look. Yes incorporating parks into a city's development is essential to social health, but to limit the number/height/location of buildings solely because someone wants to preserve the current view of the habor is selfish and ridiculous. Using the terminology of current Hong Konger ppl would probably say this is another "Hooking up of gov't and businesses"...

sry I'm very against these so-called environmentalists who blocks developments for selfish reasons. If you care so much about the habor, focus on the quality of the habor water instead.

hkskyline
June 8th, 2005, 04:43 AM
It does look really ugly to have huge skyscrapers by the harbourfront and much shorter buildings behind them. Normally the coasts should be less dense while the density increases heading inland, but the unique reclamation characteristics of West Kowloon have made that not feasible. There may be a point about the air circulation, since Causeway Bay's air quality is bad because of the buildings' canyon effect that blocks air circulating from the harbour.

vincent
June 8th, 2005, 08:39 AM
let's build more super skyscrapers before these rules come in place. :-)

Rachmaninov
June 8th, 2005, 04:55 PM
LOL good idea vincent!

hkskyline
June 8th, 2005, 06:50 PM
I think a lot of skyscrapers have already been built. West Kowloon is a maze of supertalls. Olympic Station has a lot of big skyscrapers, and the first one that began the trend was Harbourfront Landmark in Hung Hom.

spicytimothy
June 8th, 2005, 10:25 PM
well now that the height limit due to Kai Tak is lifted we can expect lots of beauties peaking above the mid-rises in East Kowloon as well!

hkskyline
June 9th, 2005, 05:35 PM
The Kai Tak redevelopment plan will not allow huge skyscrapers to dominate the waterfront. Rather, there will be a step-wise height approach while leaving the corridor to Lion Rock viewable from the harbour.

scorpion
June 10th, 2005, 08:46 AM
there's a knowledge-step-wise approach to the harbour as well...

;)

spicytimothy
June 10th, 2005, 10:59 PM
u know wht, let's do the step-wise approach: starting with 60-stories all the haborfront :-) one can only imagine how tall the ones behind them would be :-D

bs_lover_boy
June 11th, 2005, 09:11 AM
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: u know wht, let's do the step-wise approach: starting with 60-stories all the haborfront :-) one can only imagine how tall the ones behind them would be :-D

:applause: Nice One dude. So funny!