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Mr Bricks June 6th, 2005, 08:17 PM What is your ranking of the Scandinavian countries? political, economy, military...or something you think is important...
My ranking:
Military: finland/sweden,norway,denmark
political:sweden,finland,denmark,norway
economy:sweden,finland,norway,denmark
staff June 6th, 2005, 08:39 PM I would say both Denmark and Norway are stronger than Finland in every aspect.
Sweden is in top of every cathegory except for economy, where Norway and Denmark are stronger.
Sideshow_Bob June 6th, 2005, 10:29 PM Musically: Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland :)
Küsel June 6th, 2005, 10:35 PM Most beautiful country: Norway - fav. area: Finnish Lappland :)
Küsel June 6th, 2005, 10:38 PM Economy: Finland is a miracle in economics. First time I was there 15 years ago they had 30% unemployment and were totally dependant on the Soviet Union that collapsed and with it Finland's economy... Nokia was producing our trecking boots. A few years later: huge growth after restructuring the whole economy - without losing their high social values :applause:
Ubo June 6th, 2005, 10:54 PM 1 Sweden
2 Denmark
3 Finland and Norway
Mr Bricks June 6th, 2005, 11:22 PM :rofl:!!!!I canīt belive you guys know so little about finland, this is not worth aguing! I have read thousands of books which says finland has the biggest army in scandinavia, but sweden has a larger budget. Finland has since WW2(where we showed our will of defending our country) put a lot of effort to have a goos army (we are neighbours to russia u know) . Finland is next to sweden the biggest economy in scandinavia, in norway they are rich (they have their oil and fishes) but both norway and denmark havenīt got a big industry. Both finland and sweden export steel, electronic stuff( remember nokia, the by far biggest mobilephone producer!), finland is the worldīs second largest paper exporter, and sweden have their cars, but what does norway and denmark export, what?? Itīs like saying italy and spain have e bigger industry than germany! Maybe things were different 15 years ago and you still think itīs the way it used to be, but itīs not!
Mr Bricks June 6th, 2005, 11:29 PM If you mean economy like where the people is richer perhaps norway and denmark leave sweden and finland behind but if you are talking about who has the bigger industry, a greater influence on the world economy, itīs defenetly sweden and finland! Otherwise i can say finland is a greater economy than the us since people here are richer....
heavyzakura334 June 7th, 2005, 01:38 AM i dont know, but really who cares, that area of the world is so fukcen cool it does not matter who is more what. by the way, you forgot Iceland.
http://www.jensenworldtravel.com/images/Flags_-_all_Scandinavian.gif
_tictac_ June 7th, 2005, 01:57 AM i dont know, but really who cares, that area of the world is so fukcen cool it does not matter who is more what. by the way, you forgot Iceland.
http://www.jensenworldtravel.com/images/Flags_-_all_Scandinavian.gif
Not really. Scandinavia consists of Norway, Denmark and Sweden.
What you're referring to would be the Nordic region. ;)
Military: Finland, Sweden, Norway and Denmark
Politics: Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Norway
GDP/PPP: Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Finland
Nature: Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark
Population: Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Norway
_tictac_ June 7th, 2005, 02:14 AM :rofl:!!!!I canīt belive you guys know so little about finland, this is not worth aguing! I have read thousands of books which says finland has the biggest army in scandinavia, but sweden has a larger budget. Finland has since WW2(where we showed our will of defending our country) put a lot of effort to have a goos army (we are neighbours to russia u know) . Finland is next to sweden the biggest economy in scandinavia, in norway they are rich (they have their oil and fishes) but both norway and denmark havenīt got a big industry. Both finland and sweden export steel, electronic stuff( remember nokia, the by far biggest mobilephone producer!), finland is the worldīs second largest paper exporter, and sweden have their cars, but what does norway and denmark export, what?? Itīs like saying italy and spain have e bigger industry than germany! Maybe things were different 15 years ago and you still think itīs the way it used to be, but itīs not!
What a rude, ignorant and arrogant statement.
Obviously...You, too, know absolutely nothing about Norway and Denmark when making a statement like that. :sleepy:
Let me tell you something. Finland is not the definition of supremacy, something you seem to disagree with.
In categories such as total exports, Finland ranked last out of the four in 2004. Furthermore, the GDP/PPP of Norway and Denmark are of no comparison to Finland which ranks much lower.
Next time, make sure you get your facts straight before making a statement like that.
Thank you.
Some danish exports:
- LEGO (6th most popular toy in the world)
- Carlsberg (5th largest brewery in the world)
- Novo Nordisk (Biggest manufacturer of diabetes care products in the world)
- Danfoss (Biggest manufacturer of industrial components in the world)
- Vestas (Biggest manufacturer of wind technologies in the world)
- Danish Crown (Biggest producer of foods (meat) in Europe)
- Danisco (One of the biggest producers of food ingredients in the world)
- House of Prince (Biggest manufacturer of cigarettes in Northern Europe)
Hviid June 7th, 2005, 03:58 AM Also A.P. Møller-Maersk is the biggest shipping company in the world, and its about to become twice as big.
Denmark is also one of the biggest oil and natural gas producers in Europe, only beaten by Norway and Britain (i believe). (Last time I checked Finland doesnt produce any oil or gas at all? Neither does Sweden!)
Denmark also exports electronics (B&O - Bang & Olufsen TVs, phones, speakers, cd players, dvd players, computer-stuff and whatnot...)
The world famous Danish jewellery "Georg Jensen" is also a big danish company
And we got our own electric car.. the Ellert :D Obviously not a big export, but still something to be proud of :D
Also, the Danish kroner has the highest value in Scandinavia (obviously next to the EURO, which Finland now carries)
I agree pretty much with _tictac_'s list
Military: Finland, Sweden, Norway/Denmark
Politics: Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Norway
GDP/PPP: Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Finland
Nature: Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark
Population: Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Norway
SuomiPoika you obviously dont know shit about Denmark or Norway, so either keep your mouth shut next time or try and actually take some time into researching before comming up with that kind of bullshit.. seriously..
Ringil June 7th, 2005, 08:24 AM the finnish army is the biggesst in the nordic?!
NorthStar77 June 7th, 2005, 11:10 AM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=219418
National GDP in 2005 from the IMF:
Sweden $267.427mil
Norway $193.660mil
Denmark $187.721mil
Finland $161.099mil
@SuomiPoika: since you seem to think that the oil-industry, wich make up around 20% of our economy, and agricultural and fishing industry wich makes up 1% of our economy, should be left out of the comparison, then I think the forestry industry in Finland should be left out aswell;) Forestry is just as important to Finland as oil is to Norway. My point is that you can't just exclude natural resources like that.
Mr Bricks June 7th, 2005, 11:35 AM sorry if i was rude, but i have the feeling, and now i know itīs true, that people underestimate finland just because itīs far away and norway and denmark are nearer, and they have a long and honorful history and we had 30% unemployment 15 years ago and the stereotype picture seems to have stayed....i have swedish friends and they have told me what the swedes think about finlnad and itīs sooooo wrong! i canīt even imagine what the norwegians and danish people think. Of course u can always take those BNP/PPP lists to point out things like we do this and this show that and so on...by the BNP list the american people are the richest in the world, and we all know thats bullshit! The basic things you learn in school on the economic lessons is that the USA is the biggest economy in the world, China is growing stronger, germany is europes biggest economy....and we here in finlnad learn that finlnad next to sweden is the biggest economy in scandinavia. Itīs like your first year in school when you learn the names of the nordic countries. The countries that was beaten in WW2 like germany and japan are sooo underestimated now. I hear people saying that UK have a stronger army than Gerrmany, and that itīs a stronger economy as well, dudes germany conquered europe, crushed france in no time almost conquered Russia??
The same thing is happening with finland. befor WW2 finland was nothing and after the war very poor but now the situation is totally different. But people still think itīs some little crap country somewhere in the north when itīs not! Your attitudes just show this , you donīt even have to say it.
And btw staffs comment:"I would say both Denmark and Norway are stronger than Finland in every aspect.Sweden is in top of every cathegory except for economy, where Norway and Denmark are stronger." is just as rude as mine, itīs a short way of saying: Finland has nothing!
Mr Bricks June 7th, 2005, 11:43 AM Of course the BNP gap between the scandinavian countries is not so big so the BNP can change fo example when the unemployment rises in one of the countries and things like that.
daniel220776 June 7th, 2005, 11:47 AM 1.-IKEA
2.-NOKIA
3.-STATOIL
4.-LEGO
tahk June 7th, 2005, 12:46 PM 1.-IKEA
2.-NOKIA
3.-STATOIL
4.-LEGO
That was good! :rofl:
my general ranking:
1-Sweden
2-Norway
3-Denmark
4-Finland
Küsel June 7th, 2005, 01:01 PM You guys just have to take care that the thread is not closed because of nationalism. In CvC country-comparisments are already forbidden because of that....
SuomiPoika: the only thing I was confused is, that you attacked us just at the beginning and after I gave an (positive) example of strong Finnish economy - that you repeated yourself a few posts ago. I know Suomi (and also the rest of Scandinavia) quite well, have friends there and visited the country more than 10 times for each time 3-4 weeks in the 90s. It doesn't mean that I know every detail about your country and I lost all my language skills in the meantime - but I don't think that I am so ignorant as it sounded for you - you have to make a bit more differenciation, sorry. But nevermind :cheers:
PC June 7th, 2005, 01:20 PM I have to agree with SuomiPoika that Finland is very underestimated. BUT, Finland WAS a few years ago a bright star on the northern sky, our economy was growing and the rest of the world started to notice us for our technology. What has happened now? We are falling behind, yea, for example Denmark has advanced ahead of us and from the nordic countries Iceland has become the brightest star on the northern sky. The Helsinki metropolitan area which should be the centre of Finland is falling behind Stockholm, Malmö and Copenhagen and Helsinki is no longer even recognized as one of the technologically most advanced cities in the world - something it used to be. This is what today is - something you can read in the newspapers of.
In order to keep up with the progress we should focus on developing the Helsinki metropolitan area as the centre of economy and technology in Finland, that would serve our nation best. I strongly support the combination of Helsinki, Vantaa and Espoo into one big city.
Chi-town June 7th, 2005, 02:09 PM Is Finland really even Scandanavia? It's a completely different language group than Norway/Sweden/Denmark...
DenverDane June 7th, 2005, 02:19 PM ^Yes, that's true, though it also has many ties to Scandinavia. Unfortunately, "Scandinavia" means different things in different parts of the world. Anyway, the correct term to use here would be the Nordic Countries.
Mr Bricks June 7th, 2005, 02:43 PM I donīt mean to attack anyone or sound rude and i īm thankful for your example kuesel. PC is right that finland is falling behind nad i do find it strange that HKI,vantaa and espoo are three different cities. Excuse me if i were attacking u, i don+t want to pick up an argument. we can talk about more positiv stuff insted :)
Mr Bricks June 7th, 2005, 02:44 PM actuallly scandinavia+finland is callled fennoscandia. :)
Hviid June 7th, 2005, 03:04 PM And btw staffs comment:"I would say both Denmark and Norway are stronger than Finland in every aspect.Sweden is in top of every cathegory except for economy, where Norway and Denmark are stronger." is just as rude as mine, itīs a short way of saying: Finland has nothing!
So your way of defending Finland is by putting Norway and Denmark down? Dont you see how dumb that is? I agree with you that Finland is underestimated.. but I think all of the Scandinavian countries (except maybe Sweden) are underestimated. It's sad but thats how it is. A lot of people in for example Canada have never even heard of Scandinavia (or the countries within the region). And the people who have heard of them, only think of the countries as cold northern states with nothing to show. I wish I could change the way people think, and make them see how great our countries are.. but i cant.. it sux :(
NorthStar77 June 7th, 2005, 03:08 PM A lot of people in for example Canada have never even heard of Scandinavia (or the countries within the region). And the people who have heard of them, only think of the countries as cold northern states with nothing to show.
People in Canada thinks it is cold here?? Mwuahaha:lol: I know a Canadian girl from Calgary that would prefer Scandinavian weather by far:okay:
Hviid June 7th, 2005, 03:12 PM People in Canada thinks it is cold here?? Mwuahaha:lol: I know a Canadian girl from Calgary that would prefer Scandinavian weather by far:okay:
She's not the only one ;)
Fallout June 7th, 2005, 03:43 PM Sweden is the most important economically and politically due to biggest population (9 million compared to 5 million in denmark, Norway and Finland.)
schreiwalker June 7th, 2005, 04:22 PM I've always been surprised by how much the scandanavian countries seem to bicker.
Personally, I've always had a favourable impression of all of them. As a winter olympics fan, you'd have to. And that is, of course, a much better way to rate a country...
All-time Winter medals:
1. Norway (263)
5. Finland (142)
7. Sweden (108)
40. Denmark (1) (how is that possible?)
Per capita:
2. Norway (57 per 1 million people)
3. Finland (27)
6. Sweden (12)
29. Denmark (.18)
All-time Summer medals:
6. Sweden (469 medals)
12. Finland (296)
20. Denmark (161)
26. Norway (134)
Per capita summer medals:
1. Finland (57 per 1 million people)
2. Sweden (52)
4. Denmark (39)
5. Norway (29)
moral of the story? Scandanavians are actually better at summer sports than they are at winter sports. who'da thunk it?
Mr Bricks June 7th, 2005, 05:59 PM hmm...i donīt know, Finland REALLY sucks at football and what about other summer sports? what would that be? Of course we have always been really good at motor sports.
Itīs funny to think finland have only won 1 world champion ship in hockey and that was against sweden 1995. The UK which have always been the homeland of football have won 1 worls champion ship in football and, belive it or not, 1 in hockey too. I would guess a match between finland and the UK in hockey would end up like 15-0 for finland, but we have only one goldmedal! :)
I thought we had dikussed this already but iīm not putting norway and denmark down. They belong to the nordic countries, and i think they are great countries. If i would like to put down other countries to defend finland, why not put down sweden.I wouldnīt do this because i know sweden is a bigger country than finland with 9mio people to 5.5mio. Iīm only truing to be realistic here, and i know norway (perhaps denmark as well) have now made huge progress and the nordic countries are now on about the same level (although not in military power).
Btw "Look", the population of the nordic countries are: sweden:9.0mio,finland:5.5mio,denmark:5.5mio,norway:4.5mio.
schreiwalker June 7th, 2005, 06:20 PM you think the brits would score that much? I miss hockey!! Where are you NHL???
Fallout June 7th, 2005, 06:33 PM Btw "Look", the population of the nordic countries are: sweden:9.0mio,finland:5.5mio,denmark:5.5mio,norway:4.5mio.
So I didn't miss much.
staff June 7th, 2005, 07:22 PM And btw staffs comment:"I would say both Denmark and Norway are stronger than Finland in every aspect.Sweden is in top of every cathegory except for economy, where Norway and Denmark are stronger." is just as rude as mine, itīs a short way of saying: Finland has nothing!
It wasn't intended to be offensive. It was just an answer to your untrue first post. Finland has made incredible success the latest 10-15 years, but I still think Sweden, Denmark and Norway are way ahead in many aspects.
Btw, Finland is not a part of Scandinavia.
Hviid June 7th, 2005, 10:02 PM Btw "Look", the population of the nordic countries are: sweden:9.0mio,finland:5.5mio,denmark:5.5mio,norway:4.5mio.
Where did you get that info from? Finland only has 5.2mio people...
All-time Winter medals:
1. Norway (263)
5. Finland (142)
7. Sweden (108)
40. Denmark (1) (how is that possible?)
Winter sports are not popular AT ALL in Denmark. Not only because we have no real ski-hills, but also because it.. just.. isnt popular .. :) .. We like (love) soccer, handball, tennis/table tennis, golf, etc. We like warm sports. Hockey is starting to boom pretty fast in Denmark, but its still obviously nothing compared to the other scandi-countries..
Mr Bricks June 7th, 2005, 10:11 PM actually finland has 5.3mio :)
Mr Bricks June 7th, 2005, 10:13 PM As i said Scandinavia+Finland is called Fennoscandia...i know Finland is not in Scandinavia. Finnish belong to the finnish-ugric languages, which are spoken in Finland,Estonia,Hungary and some parts of Russia. The Scandinavian languages belong to the same group as english and german. Tolkien actually used finnish to create the elvish language and in the two towers film they are suppose to sing in finnish at some part of the film but i havenīt noticed it...
Desven June 7th, 2005, 10:14 PM general ranking:
1.Sweden
2.Norway
3.Denmark
4.Finland
Mr Bricks June 7th, 2005, 10:31 PM stereotypes....
_tictac_ June 7th, 2005, 11:21 PM Population
1. Sweden: 9,001,774 / 449,964 sq km
2. Denmark: 5,432,335 / 43,094 sq km
3. Finland: 5,223,442 / 338,145 sq km
4. Norway: 4,593,041 / 324,220 sq km
ch1le June 7th, 2005, 11:53 PM hello! I have absolutely no idea! Suomipoika, you seems like a intelligent fellow, use that intelligence and smartness in a more gentle way ;) your posts seems a bit "attacking" Other then that keep up the good work.
Hm. In my opinion, like many others here, nordic countries, except Sweden (...) are underestimated, the one most underestimated, imo, is Denmark, opening this page i though yeah, good point, they dont have any big companies... but some of the fellow forumers here quickly changed my view. It would be unfair to take the "oil" from Norway like that, there is no reason why we ought to disinclude that... its a part of economy, discounting it like that is a sign of jealousy (well duh, cant blame anyone for that...) Its just impossible to rank you guys...
id put Sweden as the leader (... economy wise, population wise, PR wise... so on)
and Finland Norway and Denmark behind it... sweden is the odd one here... but you are similar...
Hviid June 8th, 2005, 01:28 AM Just for my own knowledge, what big companies come from Finland (other than Nokia...)?
Ringil June 8th, 2005, 09:04 AM Salora!
staff June 8th, 2005, 09:28 AM And Nokian (car tyres). :D
I've always felt that Denmark have very respected brands/companies, such as a lot of design (furniture etc.), Bang & Olufsen, Carlsberg, Lego, Georg Jensen, Maersk etc.
Mr Bricks June 8th, 2005, 11:30 AM Nokia makes rubber boots too... :D
PC June 8th, 2005, 11:53 AM Just for my own knowledge, what big companies come from Finland (other than Nokia...)?
Fortum, Kesko, Kone, Rautaruukki, Outokumpu, UPM-Kymmene...
staff June 8th, 2005, 04:05 PM Fortum, Kesko, Kone, Rautaruukki, Outokumpu, UPM-Kymmene...
:eek2: ;)
PC June 8th, 2005, 04:27 PM ...and how could I forget Stora Enso,
anyway, I found some statistics ;)
http://www.talouselama.fi/te500list_eng.te
- the 500 biggest companies in Finland (of course not all of those companies are Finnish, but most are)
Let's bring this list up once again - The businessweek global 1000:
http://yahoo.businessweek.com/pdfs/2004/global1000_country.pdf
number of companies among the 1000 greatest in the world 2004:
Sweden 15 ;)
Finland 5
Norway 5
Denmark 4 :(
staff June 8th, 2005, 04:36 PM How can Carlsberg not be listed there, or it is the "TDC"-post?
Scraperlover June 8th, 2005, 05:17 PM football:
sweden
denmark
norway
finland
Icehockey
Sweden
finland
denmark
norway
hehe
Mr Bricks June 8th, 2005, 05:56 PM Swedish and finnish people use to be friends in everything but one thing: which one is better on hockey?...
btw, i have always thought notway is better than sweden i football.
Scraperlover June 8th, 2005, 06:08 PM are you kidding me look at the fifa ranking system ,,,, sweden is 13 in the world while norway is 36th so get your facts straight
Ps im not sure about whose better in hockey its very close between finlad and sweden
staff June 8th, 2005, 10:10 PM Sweden are better than Norway in football right now. It tends to change over periods though - in '98 Norway were close to beat Brazil in the World Cup, and Sweden didn't even qualify to the tournament.
My humble and un-nationalistic opinion is that Denmark are generally better than Sweden. Though, this is also tending to change.
Hviid June 8th, 2005, 11:33 PM /\ I honestly dont know which country is better at football, Denmark or Sweden ... the last "important" game we faced was last year at the EURO2004 where we tied 2-2 .. that was an awesome game BTW :D ... Denmark won the EURO in 1992, so in that case, Denmark is better cuz we won more titles, also we made it to the semi-finals in World Cup 1998 (i believe) where we lost to Brazil 3-2 (very close game) :)
Fortum, Kesko, Kone, Rautaruukki, Outokumpu, UPM-Kymmene...
I've never heard of any of them .. are they international companies or are they just big in Finland?
Hviid June 8th, 2005, 11:38 PM a question to the danes/scandinavians here ... At the CIA World Fact Book page (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/da.html), under the background (of Denmark) it says "Once the seat of Viking raiders and later a major north European power, Denmark has evolved into a modern, prosperous nation that is participating in the general political and economic integration of Europe"
What is CIA referring to when saying "a major north European power"?
PC June 8th, 2005, 11:53 PM Fortum (www.fortum.com )- huge in Finland and a leading energy company in the Nordic countries and the other parts of the Baltic Rim
Kesko (www.kesko.com ) - was recently ranked among the 100 most sustainable companies in the world (http://www.global100.org/ ) Huge reatiler in Finland, but operating also in Sweden, Baltics and Russia.
Kone (www.kone.com ) - operations in more than 40 countries, one of the leading manufacturers and developers of elevators in the world, the new Trump tower in Chicago will have it's elevators from Kone
Rautaruukki (www.ruukki.com ) and Outokumpu (www.outokumpu.com ) - steel industry, operations in more than 40 coutries
UPM-Kymmene (www.upm-kymmene.com ) and Stora Enso (www.storaenso.com ) - Forest industry, among the world leaders, operations in more than 40 countries
Why should you have heard of them, unless you are interested in global industry?? Except for Kesko, they operate mostly business to business.
Ringil June 9th, 2005, 12:32 AM I thought StoraEnso was a swedish-finnish company.
I honestly dont know which country is better at football, Denmark or Sweden ... the last "important" game we faced was last year at the EURO2004 where we tied 2-2 .. that was an awesome game BTW ... Denmark won the EURO in 1992, so in that case, Denmark is better cuz we won more titles, also we made it to the semi-finals in World Cup 1998 (i believe) where we lost to Brazil 3-2 (very close game)
i can say that Sweden is with out doubt leading the amount of victories in the "Sweden-Denmark games". At the beginning of the 20th century we lost with 13-0 against Denmark but after a few decades it changed.
Sweden is supposed to be better on the paper but you never know. Bollen är rund, allt kan hända!
We've got a world cup silver, an olympic gold and a world cup bronze ;)
What is CIA referring to when saying "a major north European power"?
well duh ;) they mean it once was a big powerful country, but then lost it all, just as we did :( :D
Hviid June 9th, 2005, 01:03 AM I thought StoraEnso was a swedish-finnish company.
i can say that Sweden is with out doubt leading the amount of victories in the "Sweden-Denmark games". At the beginning of the 20th century we lost with 13-0 against Denmark but after a few decades it changed.
Sweden is supposed to be better on the paper but you never know. Bollen är rund, allt kan hända!
We've got a world cup silver, an olympic gold and a world cup bronze ;)
Baahh silver and bronze dont count for anything. Its the gold metals that count ;) Our EU92 gold will beat your Olympic gold any day :D But like you said, bolden er rund, alt kan ske :) (the ball is round, everything can happen) so I guess on the FIFA Rankings you guys are better .. but on Dannys Rankings (my rankings ;)), Denmark is way better :D
well duh ;) they mean it once was a big powerful country, but then lost it all, just as we did :( :D
But its saying "Once the seat of Viking raiders and later a major north European power" .. wouldnt this mean that it was once (used to be, but not anymore) the seat of Viking raiders, and later (as in.. today?) a major north-european power? Im probably wrong but thats what it sounds like.. :)
Hviid June 9th, 2005, 01:09 AM Why should you have heard of them, unless you are interested in global industry?? Except for Kesko, they operate mostly business to business.
Well whenever I walk around in malls or stores here in Canada I always notice danish stores/products and danish businesses/companies .. and I haven't heard of any of those Finnish companies at all.. so i guess they dont exist in Canada..
Ringil June 9th, 2005, 08:24 AM Baahh silver and bronze dont count for anything. Its the gold metals that count Our EU92 gold will beat your Olympic gold any day
i can say that we almost won the world cup final, but then Pélé and the others did what they did ;) It's hard to meet Brazil in a world cup final
PC June 9th, 2005, 08:32 AM I thought StoraEnso was a swedish-finnish company.
Yeah it is, but usually you see it ranked as a Finnish company instead of Swedish. Maybe it's not good to mention it after all. :(
Well whenever I walk around in malls or stores here in Canada I always notice danish stores/products and danish businesses/companies .. and I haven't heard of any of those Finnish companies at all.. so i guess they dont exist in Canada..
They exist in Canada but you don't really notice them in Finland that much either. KONE has their Canadian headquarters in Toronto, UPM-Kymmene employs 1400 workers and manages 2,3 million acers of forest in Canada and they are the largest employer in northeastern New Brunswick, Outokumpu has plants in Brockville and Burlington in East-Canada, but except for Nokia there really aren't any well-known brands from Finland. Anyway, my intention was, since you asked politely, to show you that there are other big corporations from Finland than just Nokia, not to compare to other Nordic. In my opinion Finland has fallen behind Denmark in many aspects, but I don't want to rank the nordic countries as I like them all and consider all of them great. ;)
NorthStar77 June 9th, 2005, 09:08 AM How can Carlsberg not be listed there, or it is the "TDC"-post?
Norwegian Orkla owned Carlsberg until about a year ago. Then they sold all their shares to Carlsberg themselves, because they could not agree on the strategy for the future, Orkla wanted a more aggressive aproach.
Sweden are better than Norway in football right now.
Ahem, did you see the match last evening?:D It is the first time though on 67 years that Norway has beaten Sweden at Råsunda.
The Norwegian national team truly sucked during the leadership of their last coach(I've even forgot his name). Åge Hareide however, is the right man for the job, and is getting them gradually on the right path again.
staff June 9th, 2005, 10:40 AM /\ I honestly dont know which country is better at football, Denmark or Sweden ... the last "important" game we faced was last year at the EURO2004 where we tied 2-2 .. that was an awesome game BTW :D ... [...] ...also we made it to the semi-finals in World Cup 1998 (i believe) where we lost to Brazil 3-2 (very close game) :)
The game last summer was a real nailbiter! I honestly think that Denmark was the best team though, "letting" (well) Sweden score in the final minutes of the game. It was truly a Scandinavian victory against Italy. :D
For your information, Denmark lost the quarter-final against Brazil, but as you wrote, it was a really close game! :) I actually was in France during the WC'98 watching a couple of games (among them Norway-Brazil) at Stade Vélodrome in Marseille.
staff June 9th, 2005, 10:54 AM Norwegian Orkla owned Carlsberg until about a year ago. Then they sold all their shares to Carlsberg themselves, because they could not agree on the strategy for the future, Orkla wanted a more aggressive aproach.
I wasn't aware of that. But my question remains, does "TDC" equal Carlsberg on that list? Carlsberg must be one of the strongest brand names in the world, isn't it? I've spent a lot of time in Vietnam this winter, and Carlsberg is practically the only beer you could get there, apart from the local brews! :)
I think Carlsberg is jointly owned by Danish and Thai interests though (?).
Ahem, did you see the match last evening?:D It is the first time though on 67 years that Norway has beaten Sweden at Råsunda.
The Norwegian national team truly sucked during the leadership of their last coach(I've even forgot his name). Åge Hareide however, is the right man for the job, and is getting them gradually on the right path again.
Yeah, but at least Sweden's team was really a "B-team" with players who are not generally ordinary on the field. I don't know about Norway's squad though, but it is certainly fun to see Jon-Inge Höiland (Malmö FF player) play!
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