View Full Version : Why does Los Angeles and almost all cities in CA don't get Wal-Mart Supercenter?


VansTripp
June 7th, 2005, 07:46 AM
I just wondered and noticed that CA never get new Wal-Mart Supercenter or Super Target. I just asked question to why does never got construction this both new super store?

The one of new Wal-Mart Supercenter is proposed in Inglewood and people are on protest sooo badly then this projected was added to never built. Thanks to god for not brings Wal-Mart Supercenter with huge parking so it's wasting half of acres on lot.

Los Angeles MSA are growing some regular Wal-Mart with beautiful modern building, it's small parking space too.

zergcerebrates
June 7th, 2005, 08:37 AM
Well, WalMart is big enough.

Azn_chi_boi
June 7th, 2005, 01:40 PM
Why would you even want a walmart?

Also, Regulare walmart is good enough.

aion26
June 7th, 2005, 02:20 PM
There are supertargets?

waj0527
June 7th, 2005, 04:00 PM
The first time I experienced a Super Wal-Mart was about 6 years ago in Oklahoma City. We dont have many, if any, in my area. I have to admit that "Super Chains" dont exactly cater to my needs as a consumer though.

palindrome
June 7th, 2005, 04:34 PM
I will never shop at walmart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chris9
June 7th, 2005, 04:44 PM
New York City does not have a single Walmart either, but there are 20 in the metropolitan area. I think it may be because of regulations prohibiting Walmart to do business in the city, it could bring many businesses down because it operates based on the economy of scale rule and can keep costs down like no other.

Neph
June 7th, 2005, 05:40 PM
My guess would be because K-mart is king of the discount in Cali?

SDfan
June 7th, 2005, 05:49 PM
^LOL yeah right! :)

I like Wal-mart, but I don't need there supercenters.

VansTripp
June 7th, 2005, 06:09 PM
My guess would be because K-mart is king of the discount in Cali?

I thought that Target did too.

xzmattzx
June 7th, 2005, 06:56 PM
walmart has it's roots in rural places. walmart started out as the ben franklin store chain i believe, which did business in northern arkansas, southern missouri, northeast oklahoma, and southeast kansas. the farthest sam walton usually had to travel was to kansas city. since the ozark area of the united states is rural, sam walton maintained his strategy of opening stores in rural areas, because it was successful for him in the beginning.

jmanhsv
June 7th, 2005, 08:46 PM
There are supertargets?
Yep, there's two in my town (compared to the 8 super walmarts)

Californians should be glad that they do not have as many super walmarts as the rest of the country does. It has killed the supermarkets (Southern examples: Winn Dixie and Brunos/Food World)

TheKansan
June 7th, 2005, 08:52 PM
Super Wal-mart has certainly not killed any of the supermarkets here. We still have a ton of supermarkets, not to mention Super Targets and Wal-mart Supercenters and everything else too.

I think it is absolutely hilarious that NYC and LA are so afraid that wal-mart will kill their small businesses. Is anyone ignorant enough to believe that NYC and LA's retail markets are so delicate that wal-mart could hurt them? Wal-mart hasn't hurt Kansas City, a city much smaller than either of these megacities. If anything NYC and LA would hurt wal-mart because their traditional strategies won't work as well.

Muffin
June 7th, 2005, 10:20 PM
No, Wal-Mart can definitely have a negative effect on NYC and LA which draw a lot of their heritage from mom and pop stores. The fact is, not everyone in the city is rich, so Wal-Mart would definitely draw business away from these smaller places that can't compete. No one wants to see Vinny's Toilet Paper Store close down after fifty years of being a neighborhood icon just because his toilet paper is 50 cents more expensive than the megastore's...

Yes I'm exaggerating, and perhaps NYC and LA have enough people to allow both the mega chain and neighborhood places to live side by side. But it's undeniable that Wal-Mart has put small stores out of business, and not many people want to take that chance, especially when they've been getting along fine without Wal-Mart in their territory. Sometimes you get places that survive against the megacorporation, like In-N-Out in Cali (although In-N-Out is pretty decent sized itself I think), but not always.

New York and LA aren't Kansas City. In a place the size of Kansas City, Wal-Mart would bring more jobs and be good for the area because it'd revitalize it. In a place like NY or LA, it's just throwing an unnecessary cog into the city's fabric.

VansTripp
June 7th, 2005, 10:29 PM
LA has many grocies store named Vons, Ralphs, Pavilion, Food 4 Less and Mexican supermarket. u can buying milk, snack and several food at Wal-Mart or Target.

JTS LOU
June 7th, 2005, 10:49 PM
Well im tired of Walmart. Louisville averages 1-2 new Walmart Supercenters each year in the CSA.

Azn_chi_boi
June 7th, 2005, 11:19 PM
Off topic: do the chicago metro have an super wal-marts???

Anyways: "The one of new Wal-Mart Supercenter is proposed in Inglewood and people are on protest sooo badly then this projected was added to never built. Thanks to god for not brings Wal-Mart Supercenter with huge parking so it's wasting half of acres on lot."

thats probably the answer to this thread.

kavok
June 7th, 2005, 11:31 PM
In the Great Lakes area, the reason most Walmarts have built supercenters is to compete with the regional chain of "supercenters" called Meijer. Meijer has been around forever and is still more popular.

Meijer also tends to have higher quality products in the supercenter format, so as a result, Walmart is viewed as the trashy place to go to get cheap stuff. For this reason, many Great Lakes cities have tried to keep Walmart and its undesirable customer base out.

DeMaFrost
June 8th, 2005, 12:03 AM
AZN, I don't think so...at least not in the greater Loop and parts north and west. The Target we just got at Roosevelt and Clark was a pretty big deal when it was built

djm19
June 8th, 2005, 04:58 AM
because walmart is protested out of town.

LosAngelesSportsFan
June 8th, 2005, 07:43 AM
Thank god for inglewood and its sensible voters. Mega stores like these kill everything around them. i could care less if a wallmart or target was ever built in LA again.

CarsonCaliBrotha
June 8th, 2005, 09:01 AM
Yo LASportsFan, they're building a Target down the street at the Carson Mall from my house. 2nd one in Carson, ain't that a bitch? But the other one is way across town and Target has some good candy for good deals. But I don't like Walmarts. Why? Because first of all, they take up so much space, why go there when you can get much better deals at places like Costco and stuff? We have a bunch of those down here, so we shouldn't even talk about those other ones.

TheKansan
June 8th, 2005, 04:33 PM
Yo LASportsFan, they're building a Target down the street at the Carson Mall from my house. 2nd one in Carson, ain't that a bitch? But the other one is way across town and Target has some good candy for good deals. But I don't like Walmarts. Why? Because first of all, they take up so much space, why go there when you can get much better deals at places like Costco and stuff? We have a bunch of those down here, so we shouldn't even talk about those other ones.


Talk about a hypocrite, complaining about wal-mart, and then shopping at Target and Costco. I really don't care if you don't like wal-mart, but don't sit there and pretend like you are somehow helping the world by shopping at a different big-box, globalized, low paying, non-unionized retailer. That is just absolutely hypocritical.

VansTripp
June 8th, 2005, 11:49 PM
Wal-Mart: World Authority Line-Market Assocation for the Redneck Traditional

SDfan
June 9th, 2005, 03:23 AM
Wal-mart gets to much heat for doing what it does best; taking over the competition. Wasn't it only twenty years ago they were saying that Sears was going to be the retail mongul? Now what? There trying to hold on. What Im trying to say is that nothing is forever, and we shouldn't over exadurate. Wal-mart is not going to bring about the end of society!!! :lol:

Oh and there may be a super target in San Diego. Its a two story target, and it sells a lot of stuff. I don't know if it sells produce though.

CarsonCaliBrotha
June 10th, 2005, 03:24 PM
Talk about a hypocrite, complaining about wal-mart, and then shopping at Target and Costco. I really don't care if you don't like wal-mart, but don't sit there and pretend like you are somehow helping the world by shopping at a different big-box, globalized, low paying, non-unionized retailer. That is just absolutely hypocritical.
But you don't see Costco or Target trying to put a SuperCenter RIGHT in the middle of a populated area.

PotatoGuy
June 11th, 2005, 01:48 AM
Wal-marts are evil, they come and take over where ever they go

SDfan
June 11th, 2005, 10:13 PM
^There not evil. :sleepy:

neuhickman
June 12th, 2005, 03:00 AM
I'm not actually living in California now. I live in Milwaukee. But, I did live in Sacramento for 25 years and just moved here last year. In the Sac Metro area there is no Walmart Supercenter. But, there is a Target Greatland. I'm not sure if that's a Target Supercenter or not. But, I LOVE Target and I'd love to see a Target Supercenter!!!

scguy
June 12th, 2005, 06:02 AM
I dont understand why California doesnt get them when they protest against them but when we protest here, (in the SE), they always win. Either they "spruce up" the Superwalmart by making it more aesthetically pleasing or just move down the road out of city limits. Not fair!!

SneakyJungleCow
June 12th, 2005, 09:13 AM
I think there are many factors that come into play. For one Wal-Mart does not like to build urban friendly compact stores. Most of them are along the same lines of design as a big concrete warehouse with a large parking lot. We know that major cities in California have high real estate values which is largely responsible right there, also California has a pretty good selection of different grocery stores that many are loyal to already. Places where there are a TON of Wal-Mart stores usually are underserved or dont have too much competition. (A Walmart, Meijer, and Kroger market for example)

Other than that I dont know, there ARE I think 11 (I may be wrong) Wal Mart stores in LA, Ventura, and Orange counties more or less, I looked once. Yet no superstores.

SneakyJungleCow
June 12th, 2005, 09:15 AM
I'm not actually living in California now. I live in Milwaukee. But, I did live in Sacramento for 25 years and just moved here last year. In the Sac Metro area there is no Walmart Supercenter. But, there is a Target Greatland. I'm not sure if that's a Target Supercenter or not. But, I LOVE Target and I'd love to see a Target Supercenter!!!

They have such a thing. I actually like Target Superstores, they are done tastefully inside, I mostly like their wine selection for when I am in a hurry...good stuff.

gaviidae
June 12th, 2005, 10:14 AM
California has a pretty good selection of different grocery stores that many are loyal to already. Places where there are a TON of Wal-Mart stores usually are underserved or dont have too much competition. (A Walmart, Meijer, and Kroger market for example)

I don't know if that's necessarily true. The Twin Cities have at least seven dominant grocery chains (Cub, Rainbow, Festival, Byerly's, Lunds, Coborns, County Market and more) all of which have loyal customers, yet you still see Wal-Mart, Target and K-Mart supercenters of every kind, all over the place.

The supercenters have groceries for one simple reason: convenience. Where else can you buy a TV dinner, plastic lawn furniture, and a gun, all under one big roof?

dwrecker
June 13th, 2005, 07:37 AM
No Wal-Mart Supercenters??? California out of all places??? Thats crazy!

VansTripp
June 13th, 2005, 07:52 AM
No Wal-Mart Supercenters??? California out of all places??? Thats crazy!

Yeah, its ain't crazy cuz CA has other reason about it.

tombantdesfoetus
June 13th, 2005, 10:36 PM
^I don't mean to be condescending, but your English is extremely hard to understand.

LAuniverse
June 14th, 2005, 01:01 AM
I think there are many factors that come into play. For one Wal-Mart does not like to build urban friendly compact stores. Most of them are along the same lines of design as a big concrete warehouse with a large parking lot. We know that major cities in California have high real estate values which is largely responsible right there, also California has a pretty good selection of different grocery stores that many are loyal to already. Places where there are a TON of Wal-Mart stores usually are underserved or dont have too much competition. (A Walmart, Meijer, and Kroger market for example)

Other than that I dont know, there ARE I think 11 (I may be wrong) Wal Mart stores in LA, Ventura, and Orange counties more or less, I looked once. Yet no superstores.


CA has matured. It's that simple. It's now politically and economically unpopular to build giant suburban hypermarts in the densely populated urban areas of CA. Another sign of this maturity is the growing sense of pride inner-city angelinos are exhibiting in their neighborhoods - more than ever, they feel that it's their neighborhood and this sentiment has translated into local representatives who in turn, actively lobby against wal-mart type developments in favor of the countless mom and pop grocery stores that dot the landscape.