Did you know that some animals, like Cheetah, live just in Africa and Iran?

http://www.irpost.ir/staticpages/Namayeshgah/image/animal1.jpg

Southern part of Baluchistan province where last year a crocodile ate a 12-year-old boy! :( (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3145262.stm), is really part of Africa in Iran.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39182000/jpg/_39182412_croc1.jpg

In this region there are some African villages, some relate these Africans to the Thonga-Bantu cultures of southeastern Africa.

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An African woman in a village in Lashar

They are called Ahl-i Hava (Followers of the winds), they worship the Winds, it is said that they drink the fresh blood because they believe that the drinking of fresh blood will bring down the Wind! :uh: However they are very poor people and may look uncivilized but native Iranians of southern Iran have been greatly influenced by African culture of these peoples, for example popular music of Bandari which is considered to be an Iranian or Arabic music, is in fact an African music. (a sample of Bandari Music (http://www.mahour.com/sounds/boushehr/bandari.ra))

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Another African village in Lashar

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Entrance to a "toup", house of palm branches. Walls of these houses are covered with a mixture of straw and mud and their ceiling is covered by "daz" (fan palm) leaves.

Black tribes in Iran, how did they come here? During the slave trade? Impressive!!! I've never known that before. Several yaers ago BBC showed about the black people in Pakistan, whose ancestors came durind the middleaged.

wow pretty interesting, though not surprising. do you have anymore pics?

Yes one possibility is that they were brought there by Portuguese slave traders.

Bandari music gives me a headache.

I would guess African people settled in the south of Persia and in the Arabian peninsula as "imported" slaves or servants. Their music has made up part of Arabic music too. In the UAE there is a popular song called "Zenjibar". These regions also commonly imported wood from Africa to build their houses, so some of them could have been trader or people who worked on ships that brought in the wood.

Bandari music gives me a headache.

I would guess African people settled in the south of Persia and in the Arabian peninsula as "imported" slaves or servants. Their music has made up part of Arabic music too. In the UAE there is a popular song called "Zenjibar". These regions also commonly imported wood from Africa to build their houses, so some of them could have been trader or people who worked on ships that brought in the wood.

Cyrus, are these villages in the Sistan (iranian balochistan)???

It is known that balochi sardars did import slaves that now make up the makrani coast in eastern balouchistan (in Pakistan) and karachi (where a lot of africans with their magic and tales came to reside in the british era).

Yes those are in Sistan-Baluchistan province in Iran.

^ I thought so..

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Wow, this is amazing, i never knew this!

You know that on the reverse side, Zanzibar was a colony founded in Africa by a Persian family from Shiraz.. The Khan had a nightmare where the ground underneath his house opened.. he mistook this for a prophecy of an earthquake and so pakced up his entire family and servants and founded a colony in Africa.

This was in the 10th century AD when Arabic was the common language in Iran, and so the family who spoke Arabic, mixed with locals, and from that, the language of Swahili, a mixture of Arabic and African was born!

Shirazis also established the great Rustamid Empire in the north Africa and found the city of Shiraz (Jerez) in the southern spain in the remembrance of their great city in Iran, I think, like the wine of Shiraz, Sherry (the wine of this city) is also famous in the world.

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wow i never knew this in spain??

How did Persian reach Iberia? the army did??

Ohh,, and when Please. thanks,

How did Persian reach Iberia? the army did??

I think in 705 Arabs with help of Persians conquered Maghrib (region of North Africa bordering the Mediterranean Sea) [and then much of Spain], this region was part of the Arab empires (Umayyad and Abbasid) for about 50 years but then they were Persians who established the first independent Maghribi empire in 757 and ruled there for at least 150 years. The Persian empire was called Rustamid and was found by a Shirazi called Abd ar-Rahman son of Rustam son of Bahram (Some says Bahram was the same the great Sassanid commander Bahram Chubin).

hi,
yes shirazis went to lot of places, my community were mostly shirazi and from kerman. so i think shirazi in ancient times like to travel a lot

This is a new find to me. I never knew there were Africans in Iran and they even have their own villages, how luxurious!

I think in 705 Arabs with help of Persians conquered Maghrib (region of North Africa bordering the Mediterranean Sea) [and then much of Spain], this region was part of the Arab empires (Umayyad and Abbasid) for about 50 years but then they were Persians who established the first independent Maghribi empire in 757 and ruled there for at least 150 years. The Persian empire was called Rustamid and was found by a Shirazi called Abd ar-Rahman son of Rustam son of Bahram (Some says Bahram was the same the great Sassanid commander Bahram Chubin).

Actually wasn't that berbers (and hence moorish spain??)..

:sly:

Did you know that some animals, like Cheetah, live just in Africa and Iran?

http://www.irpost.ir/staticpages/Namayeshgah/image/animal1.jpg



Iranian wildlife scientists have seen four rare adult Asiatic cheetahs last month, two months after camera traps revealed a female cheetah with her four cubs resting under the shade of a tree in central Iran. The two groups of cheetahs are the largest-known of these rare cats ever photographed in Asia.

In these photos taken on June 10, 2005 and released Saturday Sept. 3, 2005, by Environment Protection Organization of Iran, Asiatic cheetahs are seen in pictures taken by camera traps in Dareh Anjir, a isolated wildlife refuge in central Iran.

The Asiatic cheetahs went extinct throughout much of the Middle East about 100 years ago, though they occurred in Saudi Arabia until the 1950s. They vanished in India in 1947; spotty records claim they ranged in Central Asia as far as Kazakhstan from the 1960s through 1980s.

Once known as "hunting leopards," cheetahs have played a significant role in Iranian history, being trained by ancient emperors to hunt gazelles.


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What???!!! Can't believe it! You've really african tribes in your country living?

There are African tribes in Pakistan too. The African tribal people live along the Mekran Coast in Baluchistan. :)

This thread deserves to be seen again. ;)

yea, i added it to the categorised list.

Truly amezing, thanks for this information and the photos, speechless.

Wow, Iran is so diversified. :laugh:

Couple years ago I went to a Iranian concert in Washington DC and there was a black guy sitting next to me , I didn’t think he was Iranian until I heard him talk in Farsi , I couldn’t believe it , I didn’t ask him which part of Iran he was from , but I was truly amazed.

Don't be. There is a lot of them, more than you can imagine. I know the names of the villages in Arabic but not Farsi.

Interesting thread. :)

Do you have a native Persian word for nappy/kinky hair?

Not just curly, but kinky.

Here (http://blackbeautyandlonghair.blogspot.com/2009/04/hair-types.html) you can see some pictures.
I reckon kinky hair has barely any or no curl pattern at all.

Hey everyone, my name is Cyrus and half Iranian...I just joined this forum. Anyway look at these three videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djte-NO2yOk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_iiHVN7x5k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfoLYbCsOcM&feature=related

Yes it's true there are large African communities in the south of Iran, but they live in very remote places so that's why many do not know of them! I think most of them have never even left their own villages, forget about traveling to somewhere like Tehran or any other major Iranian city!

It's amazing how diverse Iran is.