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DISTANCESTUDIO
June 8th, 2005, 06:35 PM
We need your comments on our design for this tower
It is 60 storey
Designed by an Egyptian team
Also do you have any comments or suggestions for the structure system

http://www.cgarchitect.com/user_artwork/rashadcopy.jpg

http://www.cgarchitect.com/user_artwork/c99_1.jpg

http://www.cgarchitect.com/user_artwork/c6.jpg

Wssps
June 8th, 2005, 07:41 PM
Looks very nice :)

rikarchitecten
June 8th, 2005, 09:53 PM
more than just awesome!!!

I just fell in love

Forza Raalte
June 8th, 2005, 10:08 PM
It is ugly as hell.

skipperBill
June 8th, 2005, 10:13 PM
Beautiful.
:eek2:
Where is going to be built?

Grygry
June 8th, 2005, 11:07 PM
A bit scary.
I think the structure is too "external", I would prefer the turning sides to have less asperities, rather like "Torso Malmo". Or at least display some kind of material more inviting than what looks like a thick concrete backbone sculpture.
To me the problem is that too many small details (the 1 floor high balconies on each side of the building) make the eye concentrate on small details rather than appreciate the global shape which is really nice. That makes the building look bigger, but a bit scary to me because my eye is lost.
To me, a better way to drive the eye vertically on the structure (especially on the sides) would be covering partially the openings the sides of the buiding with brilliant glass (sorry for the balconies, at least some of them), that would draw silver vertical 10m wide bands on the sides going upward, underlining the vertical torsade.
Maybe this sound like a a boring glassy compromise, but I think this building can afford it.
On the sides of the building, I don't like :
the fact that the huge window has a very heavy concrete frame, that is advanded before the rest of the facade by an ugly meter.
the small concrete structures on the balconies every two floors (there are three columns of them on each facade). From far away they look like cheap air conditionning devices, not very great. If I had to choose the design I would drop these and put the glass structure I was talking about between each of these structures(so there would be two wide glassy bands on each side of the building). But I don't know how functionnal is that in a hot climate construction.
Otherwise, such concrete complexes were built in France in the 60's, and were then attacked for damaging the coastline. Now I think that in the third picture, there should be some tree and less concrete visible from the beach, at least a few palm trees would make this look less mineral, and the mixed use of natural material would make this look a bit less like an alien spaceship lost on the shore!!
In the end, this construction reminds me of an amonite shell structure, but all thes wite panels seem too wide, thick and profound to make it look as light. So this is why I think a facade with less details -that would look smaller in comparison- would make this construction more attractive.
(I am a fan of Mies Van der Rohe and Calatrava, so I much prefer facades that look light).

r2
June 8th, 2005, 11:45 PM
i feel it ...

Gherkin
June 8th, 2005, 11:53 PM
That's amazing...speechless BUILD IT NOW

arzaranh
June 9th, 2005, 09:55 PM
that is one of the most beautiful skyscrapers i have ever seen. my only complaint is with those thick giant window boxes in the 1st pic, get rid of them. but i have to dissagree with Grygry though (i have a thing for structual elements) and keep the balconies - all of them.

you know i wouldn't mind working for your company are they hireing? :)

Ellatur
June 10th, 2005, 02:22 AM
nice!!!!

rikarchitecten
June 10th, 2005, 05:34 PM
More:

http://www.cgarchitect.com/user_artwork/c3.jpg

http://www.cgarchitect.com/user_artwork/c10.jpg

http://www.cgarchitect.com/user_artwork/c4_1.jpg

http://www.cgarchitect.com/user_artwork/bird03.jpg

Urban Dave
June 10th, 2005, 05:43 PM
Very modern! I like it! I supose that it will feature a steel structure, or maybe concrete core with steel beam frame.

I-275westcoastfl
June 11th, 2005, 07:34 AM
Nice but the spire is crappy looking looks like some of it fell off

sergionni
June 11th, 2005, 10:08 AM
i hated it. it looks too pretentious and yet doesn’t say anything. i don’t see any concept there. why is it twisted? why did you lost so much precious space by twisting it? why complicating your life? why giving a headache to surveyors and civil engineers with unnecessary torsion calculations? calatrava did it so please we are fed up of torsion! looks like architectural pornography

ps. advice by professional arch ;)

Sonic from Padova
June 11th, 2005, 10:11 AM
beatiful!

Principes
June 11th, 2005, 10:44 AM
Absolutely stunning. Poor engineers.

Fresh-Architect
June 11th, 2005, 11:56 AM
Unique & scary! :|
Where is going to be built? and is it a residential or commercial tower?

Cloud
June 11th, 2005, 12:52 PM
I like the design.

But can't see clearly what's on the top.
Why not merging those two tops into 1?

DarkFenX
June 12th, 2005, 06:36 PM
I like everything except that squarish windowish part on the sides.

chenlu
June 14th, 2005, 07:41 AM
WOOOW!!!

I worship you now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master: :master:

omg u guys rule!

i beleive that there is a reason for all this complex design hopefully cuz ur experts otherwise it would be a waste of money. (but still an original design)

some_stupid_nut
June 18th, 2005, 05:57 PM
Looks cool!

I think they needa change the color scheme though.

Imperfect Ending
June 18th, 2005, 07:09 PM
beautiful but doesn't fir in

DISTANCESTUDIO
June 21st, 2005, 10:32 PM
can i ask u how to change the color scheme ?
what is ur choices

Fallen Blade
June 22nd, 2005, 06:07 AM
That's a great looking design.

PotatoGuy
June 22nd, 2005, 06:28 AM
thats beautiful... :eek2: :eek2:

DISTANCESTUDIO
July 10th, 2005, 11:14 PM
any ideas about construction??

DISTANCESTUDIO
August 11th, 2005, 10:41 PM
It is a multi-function tower ( residential, hotel and administration).
The base is mall

New York Yankee
August 12th, 2005, 03:35 PM
first i thought it was a building witch was approved for dubai.

micro
August 13th, 2005, 06:07 PM
It's a little kitchy because there's a lot of unnecessary decoration without function. Too many optical features and decorations seem to compete with one another.

And it looks spooky because it has the most prominant structural feature of an animal: mirror symmetry along a vertical plane! This is why the building looks more like a living creature than like an object. Some giant otherworldly creature. I believe no one would feel comfortable living next to it. A building should look rather static (like an object). If it looks too dynamic people expect it to walk around at night :)

The new tower in Chicago by Calatrava, on the other hand, though somewhat similar, looks very nice because it looks rather static and is not overly decorated.

samsonyuen
August 13th, 2005, 10:49 PM
Nice, but not my favorite.

DISTANCESTUDIO
October 5th, 2005, 12:36 AM
what is ur favourite

TO_Joe
October 17th, 2005, 04:15 AM
not sure how to make of it -- i got a feeling that the renderings make it harsher and kitschier than it would physically look

how close to reality is it and if real (approved), where?

CrazyCanuck
October 17th, 2005, 04:19 AM
Looks pretty nice, but would only be doable by the water, it would look very out of place in a dense downtown.

miamicanes
October 17th, 2005, 02:52 PM
why did you lost so much precious space by twisting it?
It's a brilliant way to let more residents have nearly open space above their balconies so that even units not at the very top can enjoy the ambience of penthouse-like terraces.

hella good
October 21st, 2005, 09:25 AM
i like it but it looks painful

DISTANCESTUDIO
October 22nd, 2005, 08:27 PM
what kind of painful

Mo Rush
October 22nd, 2005, 08:50 PM
oh thats in new york isee the javits centre

hella good
October 23rd, 2005, 06:28 PM
painful like if you touch it, itll grate your hand, and disembowel anything that gets on its wrong side :)

asohn
October 23rd, 2005, 07:08 PM
oh thats in new york isee the javits centre

The only thing I'm seeing are palm trees which we definately don't have in New York.

Humberto123
October 23rd, 2005, 07:53 PM
interesting - full of subtle subliminal sexual methaphors...makes me horny :naughty:

DISTANCESTUDIO
February 11th, 2006, 11:49 PM
do any one have any structure idea for this icon

LordMarshall
February 12th, 2006, 01:13 AM
What’s the location.

Why do you have the boxy windows in the first pic is structural or is it for looks? Also what are the materials you guys are using for the structure concrete/steel?

I like the design but I don’t think it will fit in every location, if its for as some one mentioned Dubai then maybe. But if it’s for New York as some one else pointed out there might be a problem with the color scheme. As it stands now the colors with brown/white fit better in a more arid or resort environment. Metro environment maybe silver/black.

DISTANCESTUDIO
February 18th, 2006, 03:07 PM
This Tower is in an arabian country in the Gulf area

LibertyTwo
February 18th, 2006, 10:44 PM
It is different

It has an egyptian, anthropomorphic feel to it....borrowing from Lake Point Tower and Al Falusiaha (I can't spell it, the tower in Saudi Arabia with the ball in the top)

I like it though, it gives you a safe feeling, the last pic posted looks like a giant egyptian god watching over the sea....maybe get a little lighthouse in the summit, the way the Eiffel Tower put a beacon on the top to the get the full land-sea interaction thing going on

DISTANCESTUDIO
February 25th, 2006, 06:23 PM
Egyptian Team did this Tower.

Mo Rush
February 26th, 2006, 12:34 PM
The only thing I'm seeing are palm trees which we definately don't have in New York.
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3228/rashadcopy7zi.jpg

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/7762/stadium650a32604c2xt.jpg

guidodesign
February 26th, 2006, 05:02 PM
outstanding!! i like it!

-Corey-
February 27th, 2006, 12:38 AM
WOW VERY NICEEEE

Cliff
February 27th, 2006, 01:54 PM
do any one have any structure idea for this icon

Perhaps use the three things as columns, and bound them by truss beams, and for the curve part, use a cantiliever structure.