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View Full Version : Urban Living in the South. texasboy June 8th, 2005, 11:00 PM Show your cities different properties. Rowhomes/Townhomes Above Storefronts Loft Midrise/Highrise Crimsonblake June 9th, 2005, 12:00 AM Urban living in the south!?!?!?! Where? Not here!! lol texasboy June 9th, 2005, 01:03 AM Some of the examples from Houston. I guess I'll show the older construction and more modern construction Rowhomes/townhomes newer construction http://img92.echo.cx/img92/6951/a4dq.jpg ol' skool and i don't want to hear it about the front loaded garages http://img92.echo.cx/img92/5167/aa73oo.jpg http://img92.echo.cx/img92/3803/aa84vv.jpg Live Above Retail newer construction south of downtown http://img92.echo.cx/img92/8186/aa5st1.jpg older construction also south of downtown http://img92.echo.cx/img92/2262/aa25sm.jpg Midrises Downtown Midrise (older Construction) http://img92.echo.cx/img92/4890/aa36dl.jpg Newer Construction in Montrose http://img92.echo.cx/img92/8017/aa48xn.jpg Lofts north of downtown http://img92.echo.cx/img92/2995/aa50ls.jpg http://img92.echo.cx/img92/9040/aa65bl.jpg LSyd June 9th, 2005, 01:15 AM dude, i'm not gonna repost all the pics i've taken of urban housing in bham every few months. there a bunch in this thread i did (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=216858) sadly, most forumers here don't give a shit about urban living or buildings below 40 stories or older than 20 years; they'd rather argue whether or not Charlotte's overrated, or if Lennox Mall's better than The Galleria. - texasboy June 9th, 2005, 01:25 AM sadly, most forumers here don't give a shit about urban living or buildings below 40 stories or older than 20 years; they'd rather argue whether or not Charlotte's overrated, or if Lennox Mall's better than The Galleria. - you're right, but actually this forum has gotten better but for some reason it seems less interesting by the day. jmancuso June 9th, 2005, 01:55 AM charlotte's overrated. cityguy610 June 9th, 2005, 02:27 AM charlotte's overrated. LOL it never fails! TexasBoi June 9th, 2005, 03:34 AM ^^ he was being sarcastic. cityguy610 June 9th, 2005, 03:52 AM Oh, sorry about that. SimAtlanta June 9th, 2005, 04:21 AM Midtown Atlanta :cheers: Sorta like Houston's neighborhoods, but Houston has more of those very urban and dense-type condo developments than ATL right now. http://users.ece.gatech.edu/rincon-mora/arte/usa/atl_rainstrt.jpg http://users.ece.gatech.edu/rincon-mora/arte/usa/ga_atl_winter_townhome2.jpg http://users.ece.gatech.edu/rincon-mora/arte/usa/atl_rainwlk.jpg http://www.atlantaheights.com/assets/images/ABC_HighTimes.jpg http://www.gatech.edu/upload/pr/i35e15dee0fa72c5496851170654079b901066678105.jpg http://www.morrisandraper.com/Images/Listings/SM238_7122004155911.jpg LSyd June 9th, 2005, 04:43 AM the horrible truth (if you're a CLT forumer) (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?threadid=78170) that's pretty much final. (that Richmond>Charlotte) - willy June 9th, 2005, 12:59 PM Norfolk http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/norfolk/P1190061.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/norfolk/P1190063.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/norfolk/P1190076.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/norfolk/P1190069.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/norfolk/P1190078.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/norfolk/P4280083.jpg Raleigh-NC June 9th, 2005, 02:43 PM Great photos!!!!!! I would post some from Raleigh, but I am afraid we'll disappoint :( I like Norfolk's urban areas and I think that this city has massive potential for even more impressive developments :okay: Matthew June 9th, 2005, 05:24 PM Willy posted some great stuff! Those are my favorite so far. That is a tough act to follow, but i'll try. ;) Winston-Salem: Winston-Salem does a lot of Adaptive Reuse type projects and restorations of existing residential buildings/homes. Not as many cranes and new construction projects as other cities, but a lot of residential is going up and has gone-up over the years. I'll have photos of historic Winston-Salem rowhouses you haven't seen before on my next photo tour at the end of this month. http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/729/161snowws.jpg West End National Historic District http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/729/1615.jpg Fogle Flats/Lower Downtown (Historic District) http://img13.exs.cx/img13/3639/5vicrows.jpg Holly Avenue Historic District http://img13.exs.cx/img13/8770/18640.jpg Holly Avenue Historic District http://img23.exs.cx/img23/2738/71cl.jpg Piedmont Leaf Lofts: These are selling for almost $400,000. They were still working on the building when I last visited in January. http://img23.exs.cx/img23/3280/366gm.jpg Nissen Apartments http://img23.exs.cx/img23/3412/1099fi.jpg Cleveland Heights http://img23.exs.cx/img23/7455/876bm.jpg Goler Community Apartments http://img15.exs.cx/img15/9997/441rs.jpg 315 Spruce Street Condos and Offices (above & below) One of the early adaptive reuse projects in 1984 of a 1926 YMCA. http://img15.exs.cx/img15/1706/419wc.jpg 315 Spruce Street Condos and Offices http://img13.exs.cx/img13/2637/18647.jpg Central Business District http://img23.exs.cx/img23/4196/12pz.jpg Artist colony (artists live upstairs and run the coffee shop and music venue downstairs) http://img23.exs.cx/img23/6114/190if.jpg Store owners live upstairs also note Crystal Towers Apartments to the left. http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3214/16128fourandahalfsign.jpg http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3214/16122laptsa.jpg http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3214/16120aptswestend.jpg You can see the view in this photo, to the right. http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3214/1612grayentrance.jpg http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3214/1611windowview.jpg Amazing view! http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3214/1617aptview4andahalf.jpg Those of you who are fortunate to live downtown and see stuff like this every morning are extremely blessed. http://www.johnborwick.com/pictures/winston-salem/winston-salem-Images/19.jpg Condos above storefront retail inside the CBD. http://www.johnborwick.com/pictures/winston-salem/winston-salem-Images/27.jpg These are the original live-work condos from about 100 years ago! http://www.johnborwick.com/pictures/winston-salem/winston-salem-Images/29.jpg The view from those historic live-work condos. They are somewhat reasonable to buy and a little expensive to rent at $1,500 a month, considering what you get. It's the factory renovations that are expensive though. http://img13.exs.cx/img13/7229/18645.jpg (above and below) If you really want to live Downtown and enjoy a single family home, there are a number of Italianates (example above), Queen Annes (example below), Stick and other styled homes surrounding the CBD. http://img13.exs.cx/img13/9651/18670.jpg http://img13.exs.cx/img13/2397/2greeson.jpg Of course they are packed in and the lot size isn't very big. http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3219/16112goler_heights.jpg For our grit fans. These are not public housing. They are rentable apartments. http://www.dwsp.org/mtb2.jpghttp://www.dwsp.org/mtb1.jpg These are nice and reasonble, around $200,000 starting. http://media.gatewaync.com/wsj/homeseeker/homes/images/onewest5th.jpg Only photo I could find of One West Fifth Condos & Bike Transit Station (1920's) http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3219/16122sunsetathawthornehill.jpg In lower Downtown, you can live in 200-250 year-old houses and rowhouses. This is Winston-Salem's original Downtown from the 1700's! First Street (behind the Wachovia Center) is the dividing line between the two downtowns. These homes are listed as protected National Landmarks (of importance in the founding of our country) by the National Park Service and can sell for around $1 million+ for a small 900 square foot home from the 1700's. the bigger houses can cost several million. You have to be a history buff to pay those kinds of prices and you are told what paint to buy, what kinds of window treatments are allowed and must hide everything modern from view. The houses must look exactly as they did in 1766. Yes, it's one of the state's top tourist attractions also! The first 4th of July celebration was held on Salem Sqare also. It's a great place for extreme contrast photos, with new skyscrapers and colonial homes. :eek: http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3214/16162factoryrow.jpg Factory Row (Landmark District) http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3214/16161factoryrow.jpg Factory Row (Landmark District) http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/729/128house2.jpg Old Salem (Landmark District) http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/729/128house.jpg Old Salem (Landmark District) There's also new stuff too... http://media.reliancenetwork.com/dyna_images/mls/235/3342133.jpg 800 West Fourth Street Condos, built in the late 90's. These resell at almost $300,000. Couldn't find photos of Albert Hall (over 100 years-old and includes wetlab research space on lower floors!) or the adaptive reuse condos going up at 7th Street in a historic building. There are a number of new projects going up, but I can't find renderings, like the Chapman Building or Goler Place. http://img159.echo.cx/img159/3306/33kl.jpg Only 2 units out of 50 left (only on the market for two or three weeks!) :eek: Ground breaks in September. http://img159.echo.cx/img159/7658/24qy.jpg http://img159.echo.cx/img159/9813/11we.jpg This one is selling fast. I think the first phase is almost sold-out in two or three weeks. There is huge demand for new construction condos. They have already added 50 more units to meet demand. It could bring a new 10 storey building (or higher if demand for these continues to rise) to Burke Street. willy June 9th, 2005, 06:39 PM Thanks, Raleigh & Matthew. Here's a few more of Norfolk. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/norfolk/P1190071.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/norfolk/P1190072.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/norfolk/P1190073.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/norfolk/P1190065.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/norfolk/P1190059.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/norfolk/PC080018.jpg cityguy610 June 9th, 2005, 06:40 PM the horrible truth (if you're a CLT forumer) (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?threadid=78170) - Mobile > Birmingham texasboy June 9th, 2005, 06:51 PM norfolk is beautiful. raleigh please post. Blazer85 June 9th, 2005, 07:02 PM Mobile > Birmingham :hahaha: :hahaha: Wow cityguy610 June 9th, 2005, 07:09 PM :hahaha: :hahaha: Wow Yes Wow!!! Amazing isn't it. rantanamo June 9th, 2005, 07:22 PM Dallas courtesy of the fine photographers of Dallasmetropolis. Give Dallas a few more years, as the really exciting stuff is just starting construction or/and is approved. Bryan Place http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/BryanPlace/Resize_of_DSCF00400.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/BryanPlace/Resize_of_DSCF0043.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/BryanPlace/Resize_of_DSCF0033.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/BryanPlace/Resize_of_DSCF0026.jpg Farmers Market http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/Farmers%20Market/Resize_of_DSCF0113.jpg http://img40.echo.cx/img40/420/26panclose1ec.jpg Knox Park http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/Knox%20Park/Resize_of_DSCF0010.jpg Uptown http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/Uptown%20in%20the%20Snow/DSC07595.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/Uptown%20in%20the%20Snow/DSC07586.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/Uptown%20in%20the%20Snow/DSC07594.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/Uptown/DSCF0052.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/Uptown/Resize_of_DSCF0046.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/Uptown/DSC09383.jpg http://skylinegruve2004.dallasmetropolis.com/P9170104-dalcc.jpg http://www.ovillachurchofchrist.com/derek/pictures/dallas/downtown/030604/P3060071.JPG http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/Uptown%20in%20the%20Snow/DSC07572.jpg http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/Uptown%20in%20the%20Snow/DSC07577.jpg http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4793 http://img216.exs.cx/img216/6483/img35211hr.jpg Downtown http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/gsariles/a81f8bae.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/gsariles/eedd3a15.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/gsariles/b71e774d.jpg Deep Ellum http://img100.echo.cx/img100/556/128nb.jpg http://img188.echo.cx/img188/9413/54qz.jpg http://img40.echo.cx/img40/1252/810240cu.jpg http://img40.echo.cx/img40/529/610247al.jpg Turtle Creek courtesy of Dallashighrise.com and myself http://www.dallashighrise.com/goldcrest/604/view%20good.jpg http://www.dallashighrise.com/3525/10B/view%201.jpg http://www.dallashighrise.com/warrington/ph24b-1.jpg http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/rantanamo/Turtle%20Creek%20in%20the%20Snow/DSC07653.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~randyman2426/TurtleCreek/DSCF0097.JPG West End http://www.dallasarchitecture.info/1001ross.jpg Victory http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6224 Sorry about the number. Just don't know how to summarize with so much going up and being converted. LSyd June 9th, 2005, 07:52 PM Mobile > Birmingham opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. in your case, they just happen to be one in the same. :bash: - Crimsonblake June 9th, 2005, 08:34 PM opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. in your case, they just happen to be one in the same. :bash: - I wish someone would explain how Mobile is better than Birmingham. Sure Mobile has a few natural advantages like Mobile Bay and being so close to the Gulf. But in reality Birmingham is much farther along than Mobile in terms of urban reinassance. Birmingham actually has places to live downtown, currently Mobile has hardly any. Birmingham has plans (and maybe already building) light rail. Mobile has LONG term plans (probably 10-20 years from now). Birmingham is attempting once again to build a dome. Mobile will probably never see a major sports team in my lifetime. Both have enormous sprawl and Birmingham probably has more crime and racial problems than Mobile. But in terms of urban living, Birmingham is in much better shape. This is coming from someone who lives in Mobile too. cityguy610 June 9th, 2005, 09:10 PM About the Mobile thing....It was a joke, I was just trying to show how stupid "this city is greater than that city" thing is. As for you Lsyd, wow nice statement did you think that up all by yourself. Sorry but you didn't hurt my feelings you just gave me a nice laugh, please anytime you want to say something so smart and mature again let me know. LSyd June 9th, 2005, 10:16 PM About the Mobile thing....It was a joke, I was just trying to show how stupid "this city is greater than that city" thing is. As for you Lsyd, wow nice statement did you think that up all by yourself. Sorry but you didn't hurt my feelings you just gave me a nice laugh, please anytime you want to say something so smart and mature again let me know. 1. yes, yes i did. 2. i didn't intend to hurt your feelings. i figured you didn't have any. 3. i did want to provide a laugh. 4. Style said Richmond's better than Charlotte. - Raleigh-NC June 9th, 2005, 10:22 PM You guys have really nice photos to share. Dallas, Houston, Norfolk, Winston-Salem, Atlanta... Y'all have excellent projects to show off. texasboy, you have seen most of what I am about to post in previous threads, but since you asked me, I will share whatever little urban living options Raleigh has to offer. Keep in mind that we are not talking about the purely urban options most other cities enjoy. Raleigh is still fighting its suburban identity and it will be very long before we see developments half as interesting as the ones you guys posted. Of course, I have yet to meet a Triangle forumer who will present Raleigh as something it is not, but I want to be covered before anyone rejects some of the following photos as non-urban. http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25612314.jpg The first apartment building in Raleigh: http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25612319.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25612413.jpg Capital Room on the ground floor, with condos above: http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/27737678.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/26616327.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25708570.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25709409.jpg Sir Walter Apartments is actually catered to the seniors, but there is a proposal to convert it into a hotel, or condos. Still, it is a residential, urban project, therefore it deserves a mention here: http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/26400747.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/34970435.jpg Great option... IF you are a senior :( There are plans for tearing these towers down and replace them with some urban mid-rises, but nothing solid yet: http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/23989682.jpg Here is another shot, which I really like: http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/24719562.jpg This is 510 Glenwood, a mixed-use project that includes restaurants, bars, offices and condos: http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/24719543.jpg Condos on the top two floors (looking South): http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/23989675.jpg The same development, looking towards the East; the condo units are next to Enoteca Vin (seen here; highly recommended for those who like wine). Part of the same development are the following destinations: George & April's Wine Bar, O'Sullivan's, Stool Pigeons and Hard Times Cafe. http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/23989722.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/24730650.jpg St Martin's townhomes.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/38648423.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/26803674.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25705047.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/34761406.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/26777252.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/26777253.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990033.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990045.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990051.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990056.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990058.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990065.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990074.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990075.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990193.jpg Here is an option if you are a student: http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990236.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990433.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990436.jpg Alright, this could fool some people. While not a purely urban project, it has some elements of good land use that resemble urban areas. The units are fantastic - I considered buying in this development last June but the model I liked wasn't available at that time - and you really get a feeling that you live in a city... sort of. There are condo buildings planned for across the street: http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/39238065.jpg If you like to have your own elevator and you can afford to pay $400,000 and above, this development is made for you: http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990664.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990670.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/25990698.jpg While this is not a pure urban development, it certainly makes you feel like you are in one. Walkable distance from shops and restaurants make these condos desirable. Recently, the highest priced condo in this development was sold for a little over $1 million. Neither urban, nor suburban: http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/26825184.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/26825174.jpg Typical Raleigh housing near Five Points: http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/26825194.jpg Again, if you are a senior citizen, you have some better housing options: http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/27530584.jpg Sometimes, developers try to please everyone. Neither urban, nor suburban, but nevertheless nice and comfortable. Not too far from shops and with a sidewalk provided :) http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/37506344.jpg Other times developers try to create a faux urban development, with mixed results. Such developments are not urban, but deserve a mention. If anything, they teach people about density and living close to each other. In other words, aspects of urban living are there. Also, there are shops within walking distance, for those who are willing to leave their cars at home: http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/37506337.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/37506367.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/38269946.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/38269944.jpg I will close the tour of the existing choices with some truly nice homes. Don't let the faux historic look fool you. In real life, these houses are amazing. They combine density, walkability - yes, there are shops, offices and restaurants within walking distance - and elegance: http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/37506008.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/37506006.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/37506022.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/37506015.jpg http://www.pbase.com/raleighmsa/image/37506013.jpg The last part provides a little update on what is currently being built: THE DAWSON: http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/Dawson/DSCN5150s.jpg http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/Dawson/DSCN5153s.jpg http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/Dawson/DSCN4934s.jpg THE HUDSON: http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/Hudson/DSCN5042s.jpg http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/Hudson/DSCN5106s.jpg THE ALEXAN (North Hills) - residential w/ retail on the ground floor: http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/NorthHills/DSCN5217s.jpg http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/NorthHills/DSCN5219s.jpg http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/NorthHills/DSCN5227s.jpg http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/NorthHills/DSCN5235s.jpg THE PARAMOUNT (very outdated photos): http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/Paramount/DSCN5324s.jpg http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/Paramount/DSCN5312s.jpg http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/Paramount/DSCN5191s.jpg OBERLIN COURT: http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/OberlinCourt/DSCN5008s.jpg http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/OberlinCourt/DSCN5004s.jpg QUORUM CENTER: 15-stories, 40% residential, 60% offices. The photos below are very outdated, but these are the only ones I have uploaded so far. Currently, there are two cranes at the site and the tower has reached the 4th floor: http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/QuorumCenter/DSCN5303s.jpg http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/QuorumCenter/DSCN5096s.jpg texasboy June 9th, 2005, 10:29 PM those aren't bad at all. i especially like the Dawson. The Great Hizzy! June 9th, 2005, 11:13 PM Good stuff. Nice diversity of architecture. Those last groups of photos reminded me of the Heights here in Houston. I wonder if some of the same builders are involved with some of the developments. Texan#1 June 9th, 2005, 11:38 PM More Dallas Urban Living! :) http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/TexasPlayer/a1b804ee.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/TexasPlayer/d1081078.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/TexasPlayer/6440c76a.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/TexasPlayer/d12f7766.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/TexasPlayer/0ea76789.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/TexasPlayer/e8389880.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/TexasPlayer/99965755.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/TexasPlayer/eda29f67.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/TexasPlayer/83d4e36a.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/TexasPlayer/2d1b564b.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/TexasPlayer/ef71cb0e.jpg cityguy610 June 9th, 2005, 11:56 PM 1. yes, yes i did. 2. i didn't intend to hurt your feelings. i figured you didn't have any. 3. i did want to provide a laugh. 4. Style said Richmond's better than Charlotte. - HAHA, awww are you trying to be cute!? Blazer85 June 10th, 2005, 12:44 AM HAHA, awww are you trying to be cute!? Take things personally much? LSyd June 10th, 2005, 01:25 AM HAHA, awww are you trying to be cute!? "do or do not, there is no try." - yoda - cityguy610 June 10th, 2005, 01:37 AM Take things personally much? lol,actually no, that is why my above statement was scarcastic. I mean where would we be if we took everything personal? LSyd June 10th, 2005, 04:27 AM lol,actually no, that is why my above statement was scarcastic. I mean where would we be if we took everything personal? city talk, or city vs. city. - Carolina Blue June 10th, 2005, 05:49 AM the horrible truth (if you're a CLT forumer) (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?threadid=78170) - Oh yeah, Richmond is a great city!!! As I say to people, the city has several “layers to it”. Imagine picking up downtown Charleston, SC and sitting it in the middle of Raleigh. Then replace RTP with seven Fortune 500 companies. But like everywhere, it has its drawbacks. Like Birmingham, don’t let the urban fabric fool you. It IS a small place. One will notice that after several visits. And like The Ham, its city population is declining significantly while its metro isn’t doing much better. And the city has a problem retaining young professionals. Overall, not somewhere I would live. But a nice place nonetheless. Link: http://www.richmond.com/econdev/output.aspx?ID=3250470&Vertical_ID=10&tier=5&position=11 But I digress… Since this is a thread about urban living…here are some photos of Charlotte. Sorry about the crappy quality. I took these today and anyone in Charlotte knows the weather got really terrible early this evening. FOURTH WARD http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0271.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0272.jpg THREE DIFFERENT CONDOS, BUT NOTICE THEY LOOK VERY SIMILAR. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0273.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0274.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0275.jpg FIRST WARD – THE GARDEN DISTRICT http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0276.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0277.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0278.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0279.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0280.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0281.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0282.jpg THIRD WARD & THE GATEWAY CENTER http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0283.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0284.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0285.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0286.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0287.jpg SOUTHEND http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0288.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0289.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0291.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0293.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/100_0294.jpg I know, I know, I didn’t take this one. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Kwinone/SouthEnd1.jpg Blazer85 June 10th, 2005, 06:19 AM Am I understanding you correctly that you say Birmingham *is* small or Richmond? You also make a point about a declining city population, and while true, is not an indication of how the metro area is doing. The metro area has some of the fastest growing cities in the state and nation. Many may be leaving the city limits, but few are leaving the metro area. I was unaware that cities of about 1-1.1 million (Birmingham and Richmond) were *small* compared to Charlotte's 1.5 million. With all of Birmingham's new condo and loft projects under construction or approved, I would be very surprised to see any further decline in city population for BHM. nyxmike June 10th, 2005, 02:44 PM Nice pics Style - I especially like the 2nd pic, mainly because of the Range Rover :yes: willy June 10th, 2005, 02:48 PM Raleigh has really nice looking developments. A lot of them look new, but that's not a bad thing. There is a lot of those new urban developments being constructed in DT Norfolk. Here's some more of Norfolk. (These are not mine, I found them on "photosite.com") http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6764_1024.ts1113422555859.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/742_1024.ts1099395429531.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6770_1024.ts1113422746500.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6806_1024.ts1113480378687.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6772_1024.ts1113422799453.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6804_1024.ts1113617380578.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6810_1024.ts1113480575953.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6800_1024.ts1113480211734.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/714_1024.ts1099395419125.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/718_1024.ts1099395420640.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/723_1024.ts1099395422718.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/711_1024.ts1099395417968.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/712_1024.ts1099395418375.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6801_1024.ts1113480223296.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/719_1024.ts1099395420984.jpg http://sighed.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6767_1024.ts1113422680156.jpg Raleigh-NC June 10th, 2005, 02:54 PM Nice photos, Style :okay: During my last visit I was impressed with the amount of residential projects that Charlotte gained in the last few years. I think the hardest part will be for anyone to show off Uptown's residential options; you have to be there to see how nice they look. @texasboy: Glad you liked the photos. Again, we are not yet at the point that we can cheer about the existing residential options, but we are slowly getting there. The amount of projects popping up left and right will definitely create momentum in the years to come. By the way, the Dawson was originally designed as a 15-story mixed-use project. Here is a rendering: http://www.geocities.com/raleighmsa/images/projects/Dawson/TheDawson-OriginalPlan-RaleighNC.jpg What they delivered is a far cry from the above vision, but what the heck... Better than nothing. @willy: I always enjoy the photos you post :okay: Norfolk seems to have a wonderful urban fabric and I can't wait to visit. Norfolk is among the top 3 cities I want to visit in the nearest future - Savannah, Charleston and Norfolk. By the way, I am really enjoying this thread. I have the opportunity to see a lot of nice [urban] residential options all over the South. Hopefully more forumers will join this thread and show off their cities ;) Carolina Blue June 10th, 2005, 07:59 PM Am I understanding you correctly that you say Birmingham *is* small or Richmond? You also make a point about a declining city population, and while true, is not an indication of how the metro area is doing. The metro area has some of the fastest growing cities in the state and nation. Many may be leaving the city limits, but few are leaving the metro area. I was unaware that cities of about 1-1.1 million (Birmingham and Richmond) were *small* compared to Charlotte's 1.5 million. With all of Birmingham's new condo and loft projects under construction or approved, I would be very surprised to see any further decline in city population for BHM. I thought what I said was pretty clear. Well let’s look at it again, ”…Richmond is a great city …like Birmingham, It IS a small place…Like The Ham, its city population is declining significantly while its metro isn’t doing much better…Ummm, yeah I think that’s about right. By the way, you do realize the Charlotte MSA is roughly the size of the Birmingham and Mobile MSAs combined? CITY POPULATIONS Richmond city, Virginia (Rank – 105th) 194,729 (2003 pop est) 197,790 (2000 pop est) -3,061 (Number change) -1.5 (% change) Birmingham city, Alabama (Rank – 74th) 236,620 (2003 pop est) 242,790 (2000 pop est) -6,170 (Number change) -2.5 (% change) http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/SUB-EST2003.html METROPOLITAN STATISTICAL AREAS Birmingham-Hoover, AL (Rank – 48) 1,072,646 – 2003 1,064,882 – 2002 1,060,139 – 2001 1,053,277 – 2000 Rate of Growth: 1.84% Richmond, VA (Rank – 46) 1,138,234 – 2003 1,124,538 – 2002 1,111,463 – 2001 1,100,025 – 2000 Rate of Growth: 3.47% http://www.census.gov/population/www/estimates/metropop/PopTable01.xls Blazer85 June 10th, 2005, 08:27 PM I thought what I said was pretty clear. Well let’s look at it again, ”…Richmond is a great city …like Birmingham, It IS a small place…Like The Ham, its city population is declining significantly while its metro isn’t doing much better…Ummm, yeah I think that’s about right. By the way, you do realize the Charlotte MSA is roughly the size of the Birmingham and Mobile MSAs combined? CITY POPULATIONS Richmond city, Virginia (Rank – 105th) 194,729 (2003 pop est) 197,790 (2000 pop est) -3,061 (Number change) -1.5 (% change) Birmingham city, Alabama (Rank – 74th) 236,620 (2003 pop est) 242,790 (2000 pop est) -6,170 (Number change) -2.5 (% change) http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/SUB-EST2003.html METROPOLITAN STATISTICAL AREAS Birmingham-Hoover, AL (Rank – 48) 1,072,646 – 2003 1,064,882 – 2002 1,060,139 – 2001 1,053,277 – 2000 Rate of Growth: 1.84% Richmond, VA (Rank – 46) 1,138,234 – 2003 1,124,538 – 2002 1,111,463 – 2001 1,100,025 – 2000 Rate of Growth: 3.47% http://www.census.gov/population/www/estimates/metropop/PopTable01.xls Of course Charlotte's almost the size of Birmingham and Mobile's MSAs combined... of course you must realize that Mobile's MSA is LESS than half of Birmingham's MSA. Actually, Mobile's MSA is almost a third of Birmingham's MSA. So... I dont really see your point. Charlotte's MSA is about 400,000 larger than Birmingham. Now I guess you could call Birmingham small if you think Charlotte itself is small or at best small medium-sized city. 1.1 million for Birmingham vs about 1.5 million for Charlotte. Charlotte larger? Clearly. Birmingham *small*? Not really. Maybe you should just stick with saying *smaller* because if Birmingham is *small* with over 1 million people, you must think that cities like Mobile, Huntsville, Montgomery, Columbia etc are just specks on the map. Blazer85 June 10th, 2005, 09:07 PM And... just so you know... MSA Estimate as of July 1, 2004: *Birmingham, AL- 1,082,193 CSA Estimate as of July 1, 2004: *Birmingham, AL- 1,161,382 And... it's very possible that in the near future, Tuscaloosa could be included in Birmingham's CSA. Tuscaloosa Co. is not even distant from Jefferson County. Tuscaloosa Co. actually borders Jefferson Co. on the western side. Here is the potential impact of including Tuscaloosa Co. based on the 2004 estimates: *Birmingham, AL- 1,328,486 Youre right. That's so small... I dont know what I couldve been thinking. Carolina Blue June 10th, 2005, 09:23 PM And... just so you know... MSA Estimate as of July 1, 2004: *Birmingham, AL- 1,082,193 CSA Estimate as of July 1, 2004: *Birmingham, AL- 1,161,382 And... it's very possible that in the near future, Tuscaloosa could be included in Birmingham's CSA. Tuscaloosa Co. is not even distant from Jefferson County. Tuscaloosa Co. actually borders Jefferson Co. on the western side. Here is the potential impact of including Tuscaloosa Co. based on the 2004 estimates: *Birmingham, AL- 1,328,486 Youre right. That's so small... I dont know what I couldve been thinking. Got it. I hear you loud and clear. ONLY 400,000 people. Blazer85 June 10th, 2005, 09:27 PM Got it. I hear you loud and clear. ONLY 400,000 people. Well heck... Charlotte is only 3 million less than Atlanta... I guess you must be so small to them you barely exist, right? :stupid: Carolina Blue June 10th, 2005, 10:15 PM Well heck... Charlotte is only 3 million less than Atlanta... I guess you must be so small to them you barely exist, right? :stupid: First, my apologies to Texasboy for aiding this nut in ruining your thread. There seems to be a common denominator in every negative post on this board and it seems to always involve somebody from Birmingham. Now back to you. You are exactly right. Charlotte is barely on the map as far as Atlanta is concerned. Your problem is that instead of simply reading what I’ve written, which were all “facts”, you’re attempting to “interpret” and “expound” on what you think I really mean. In other words, I said Richmond and Birmingham were small, therefore I must think Charlotte is so big. Wrong. Go back and read my posts again and this time read them out loud. It’s best you probably not listen to the interjections going on in your head. It’s not your fault though; I lived in The Ham and understand your bitterness fully. Blazer85 June 10th, 2005, 10:37 PM First, my apologies to Texasboy for aiding this nut in ruining your thread. There seems to be a common denominator in every negative post on this board and it seems to always involve somebody from Birmingham. Now back to you. You are exactly right. Charlotte is barely on the map as far as Atlanta is concerned. Your problem is that instead of simply reading what I’ve written, which were all “facts”, you’re attempting to “interpret” and “expound” on what you think I really mean. In other words, I said Richmond and Birmingham were small, therefore I must think Charlotte is so big. Wrong. Go back and read my posts again and this time read them out loud. It’s best you probably not listen to the interjections going on in your head. It’s not your fault though; I lived in The Ham and understand your bitterness fully. I believe everyone here is familiar with similar egos from Charlotte forumers before... on this forum and others. You cant even pretend to say that you meant nothing derrogatory in saying it the way you did. And I dont think you can call Birmingham or Richmond small. Nor do I consider Charlotte small. Charlotte most certainly is on the map as far as Atlanta is concerned... as is Birmingham. Not everyone takes the attitude that some Charlotte folks do. If you think any city with over 1 million people is "small" that's your opinion, but not one I will ever share. If that is the case, then Atlanta must be a mid-sized city since there are NYC and LA. I'm sorry... even as a person from Birmingham with over 1 million people, I still have respect for other smaller cities and dont call them "small" even if they are *smaller*. If I DO call them small... it's typically as an insult or meant in a derrogatory way. If anything, it's your bitterness that's apparent... let's see. In the past couple of posts you've made the following negative assertions about Birmingham: "Dont let the urban fabric fool you" (well... at least Birmingham has it...)/"Birmingham is small"/"Birmingham's city population is declining *significantly*"/"Birmingham's metro is not doing much better" (which by the way... growth by 2% in the metro vs -5 or -6% for the city... that's about 8% higher)/"There seems to be a common denominator in every negative post on this board and it seems to always involve somebody from Birmingham."/"I lived in The Ham and understand your bitterness fully." (whatever that's supposed to mean). You also tried to elevate the perception of Charlotte by saying that youre the size of Birmingham and Mobile's MSA put together. What the crap? Mobile's MSA is less than 400,000. Bitter, bitter, bitter, bitter, bitter. You can call it facts all youd like... "facts" (if you can even consider all of what you said fact) used in a certain way can most definitely be used to insult one's city. Anyone with half a brain can see your initial post about Richmond and Birmingham was derrogatory. Mobuchu June 10th, 2005, 10:51 PM the horrible truth (if you're a CLT forumer) (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?threadid=78170) - I'd like to know where this came from?? The title of this thread is "Urban Living in the South", what did that post have to do with this topic. Why cant people just post some pics, others reply what ones they like, and thats it. I think some people just have a "hard on" for Charlotte and cant help but try to start an argument about it. Get over it already and quit ruining an otherwise great thread..... Please, continue with the pics and enough of the pointless arguing. DallasTexan June 10th, 2005, 11:03 PM I like grapes. I don't like SSC. Lakelander June 11th, 2005, 03:19 AM Here's some pics of Jacksonville http://img129.exs.cx/img129/7048/clockl8yw.jpg http://img220.exs.cx/img220/9199/avondale75sr.jpg http://img220.exs.cx/img220/6330/avondale59am.jpg http://img220.exs.cx/img220/1996/avondale11vy.jpg http://img220.exs.cx/img220/559/jacksonvillebeachskyline0wq.jpg http://img220.exs.cx/img220/5311/jacksonvillebeachvolleyball5if.jpg http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/lakelander/Downtown%20Jacksonville/hemming-plaza.jpg http://img220.exs.cx/img220/5531/downtownberkman9te.jpg http://img220.exs.cx/img220/2690/cathedraldistricthomes6qb.jpg http://img220.exs.cx/img220/6461/springfieldhomes44xw.jpg http://img220.exs.cx/img220/5316/springfieldsilverduplex5ca.jpg http://img220.exs.cx/img220/9047/sanmarcowaterfront1yg.jpg http://img220.exs.cx/img220/4642/fivepoints10qm.jpg http://img220.exs.cx/img220/6056/riversidevillariva9bb.jpg http://img220.exs.cx/img220/2665/riversideapartments18bt.jpg http://img133.echo.cx/img133/8190/riversidememorialpark1yk.jpg http://img133.echo.cx/img133/6075/carlingfront0yw.jpg http://img294.echo.cx/img294/1667/metropolitan6zh.jpg http://img111.exs.cx/img111/9655/barnett-tower.jpg http://img111.exs.cx/img111/5416/lerner-shops.jpg http://img111.exs.cx/img111/2791/11east.jpg spencer114 June 11th, 2005, 07:21 AM Richmond's population is not in decline. Just last week the mayor announced that it had exceeded 200,000 residents in 2004. Its time to put away the meaningless census data. BTW the suburban pics of Charlotte are cool. Got any examples of urban living? sleepy June 13th, 2005, 05:15 AM I did a large photo shoot of Memphis recently, and here's a few of downtown Memphis residential: Central Station apartments, rail station, and transit station: http://www.pbase.com/image/44434359.jpg Some folks in Memphis like their apartments right on the tracks: http://www.pbase.com/image/44434317/large.jpg Exchange Building Apts on left, Goodwyn Apts in center with construction chute, 10 Main Apts on right, and low-rise apts around Court Square: http://www.pbase.com/image/44598007.jpg Porter Building condos. The Porter Building was built in 1895--the 1st steel frame skyscraper south of the Ohio River: http://www.pbase.com/image/44597926.jpg Alley apts: http://www.pbase.com/image/44598216.jpg Union Ave. apts: http://www.pbase.com/image/44601179.jpg Echelon Apts with the downtown elementary school in the background: http://www.pbase.com/image/44495252.jpg St. Marten's condos, GE5 condos, and Central Station: http://www.pbase.com/image/44435165.jpg St. Marten's: http://www.pbase.com/image/44435177.jpg GE5: http://www.pbase.com/image/44435188.jpg Thought this looked nice: http://www.pbase.com/image/44434684.jpg Other shots can be found at: Memphis's downtown ballpark neighborhood http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?threadid=78213 Memphis' SouthMain photos: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?threadid=78086 Memphis' Downtown pt. 1 http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/editpost.php?action=editpost&postid=1394102 Memphis' Downtown pt. 2 http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?threadid=78542 texasboy June 13th, 2005, 05:23 AM great pics sleepy. can't wait for the Echelon Apts to age gracefully like the other dwellings. I like the Union Avenue Apartments too. VansTripp June 13th, 2005, 05:24 AM Lakelander, Jacksonville seems more gross (gritty) than Miami. I don't seen any pic of beautiful place in Jacksonville but it's alright cuz of downtown. :cheers: Some part of downtown is nice and gross, of course. I thought that gross is same means as gritty. PS: I'm not insult to u. Lakelander June 13th, 2005, 01:47 PM ^Thanks for the complement. One of the things that attracted me to Jax is its sense of place. Its got a decent sized, well maintained historic core with a diverse range of quality architecture and mature urban parks that makes it a very unique place, when compared to Florida's other cities and major cities in the South. New stucco, steel and glass buildings are great....but a mix of it, along with some grit and history, with massive river running through it, takes the cake. willy June 13th, 2005, 01:53 PM BTW the suburban pics of Charlotte are cool. Got any examples of urban living? Am I the only one that caught that? LOL, good one! VansTripp June 13th, 2005, 08:12 PM ^Thanks for the complement. One of the things that attracted me to Jax is its sense of place. Its got a decent sized, well maintained historic core with a diverse range of quality architecture and mature urban parks that makes it a very unique place, when compared to Florida's other cities and major cities in the South. New stucco, steel and glass buildings are great....but a mix of it, along with some grit and history, with massive river running through it, takes the cake. Yeah, it's nice historic area in Jacksonsville. I thought that Jacksonville is more safer city than Miami. http://img220.exs.cx/img220/6461/springfieldhomes44xw.jpg Los Angeles is used have same abandoned house (little differnet from Jacksonsville) but its demolished after 1971 Sylmar Earthquake and it's all gone in before 1990's. Bunker Hill has lost a lot of history after all Victorian homes got demolished and replaces into new skyscraper, highrise office, highrise/lowrise condo, loft, apartment and new retail stores. Alot of new condo, apartment and house development come in Westlake/MacArthur Park/Wilshire (behind of Downtown LA). West Adams (South Central LA) has a lot of existing historic house but it almost no abandoned. SneakyJungleCow June 13th, 2005, 08:50 PM Memphis looks more incredible than I remember it. Great town, I would like to see more of it. sleepy June 13th, 2005, 10:03 PM Memphis looks more incredible than I remember it. Great town, I would like to see more of it. I'm a native Memphian who only gets down there once a year or so and just got back from visiting family and so on. Point is, I took a lot of pics because Memphis has a lot to offer in terms of urban residential development and is underrepresented here and elsewhere. As I stated above, I've posted a number of threads on skyscraperpage.com. They're fairly large, but if you can bear the downloading, worth it imho. Downtown Memphis' pre-1930's stuff--pt. 1: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/sho...?threadid=78457 Downtown Memphis' pre-1930's stuff--pt. 2 http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?threadid=78542 Memphis' Downtown ballpark neighborhood: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/sho...?threadid=78213 South Main area: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/sho...?threadid=78086 Lakelander June 13th, 2005, 10:32 PM Yeah, it's nice historic area in Jacksonsville. I thought that Jacksonville is more safer city than Miami. Los Angeles is used have same abandoned house (little differnet from Jacksonsville) but its demolished after 1971 Sylmar Earthquake and it's all gone in before 1990's. Bunker Hill has lost a lot of history after all Victorian homes got demolished and replaces into new skyscraper, highrise office, highrise/lowrise condo, loft, apartment and new retail stores. Alot of new condo, apartment and house development come in Westlake/MacArthur Park/Wilshire (behind of Downtown LA). West Adams (South Central LA) has a lot of existing historic house but it almost no abandoned. Jax is a pretty rough city in certain spots. Nevertheless, that pic was taken last year in Springfield, an older neighborhood currently in the midst of being revitalized. Every city has these spots, including new ones like Charlotte. For every burned out or vacant house in town, there's another beautifully restored one around the corner. However, I have nothing to hid when posting pics of my city on the forum. I try to keep it real. LSyd June 15th, 2005, 03:44 AM Columbia; there's more of this, but i either: 1. don't have a picture and 2. don't feel like finding one if i don't (maybe waccamatt can help me out?) Barringer Building, about to become lofts http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/28611078.jpg other residential towers in Columbia (a lot for a city its size; even considering the university, there's still a lot.) http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/28611087.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/28611089.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/34620713.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/34620712.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/34641695.jpg some loft conversions http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/30340208.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/30340202.jpg about to be converted along with the mill next door (Whaley's Mill has been converted into apartments for a long time now) http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/31415723.jpg infill http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/31416005.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/31416004.jpg housing right next to downtown http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/31416003.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/31415997.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/31415853.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/31415856.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/31415849.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/31415769.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/30415198.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/30415199.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/34638707.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/34638706.jpg out of order and mixed http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/38851261.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/38851223.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/38851225.jpg Knoxville http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39780839.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39780840.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39780841.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39780892.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39781121.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39781126.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39781127.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39781128.jpg it's finished (old pic, sorry) http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39781219.jpg Hope VI http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39781222.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39781228.jpg a few conversions in this shot (most notably, the tallest) http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/44514020.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/44514082.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/44514110.jpg http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/44514111.jpg - lauderdalegator June 15th, 2005, 04:31 AM Great!! I really like the old rowhomes in Houston! VansTripp June 15th, 2005, 05:27 AM Awesome pic. :) Columbia and Knoxville don't have much white flight. gwiATLeman June 15th, 2005, 06:01 AM Am I the only one that caught that? LOL, good one! I caught that too. And it does in a "prick"ish kinda way make a good point. Except for the Dallas, Norfolk and Memphis pics I see a lot of dense living but not necessarily urban living. Density and urbanity are two different things. Not saying that the other cities don't have urban living just that the pics dont really show any. LSyd June 15th, 2005, 02:49 PM Awesome pic. :) Columbia and Knoxville don't have much white flight. Knoxville does, although i know of a lot of mixed neighborhoods. Columbia really doesn't, which is cool. - |